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California to Secede? Petitioners Get the Go-Ahead
Posted On 27 Jan 2017
Is California set to become a country unto itself? If a group called Yes California gets enough signatures over the next 180 days, residents will be able to vote on that very question in 2019. California Secretary of State Alex Padilla gave supporters the green light this week, allowing them to start gathering signatures for the proposed “Calexit” initiative.
From the L.A. Times:
If the measure gets on the ballot and gains approval by a majority of voters, it would repeal clauses in the California Constitution stating that the state is an “inseparable part of the United States” and that the U.S. Constitution is the “supreme law of the land,” according to the title and summary prepared by the state attorney general’s office.
The measure would place another question on the ballot in 2019, asking whether California should become a separate country. If at least half of registered voters participate in that vote, with at least 55% of those voting to approve, the results would be treated as California’s declaration of independence.
Marcus Ruiz Evans, one of the founders of Yes California, says that his state has grown increasingly distant from the rest of the country in many ways.
“California loses [by] being a part of America culturally and financially,” said Evans. “It could be a nation all its own, everybody knows that. The only question is if they want to break off.”
To get on the ballot, backers will have to collect 585,407 signatures by summer, and they reportedly have done no fundraising yet. Evans says that’s not a problem because his group already has more than 7,000 volunteers standing ready to hit the streets and drum up support for the petition.
Of course, even if California votes to secede, the rest of America would have to sign off on the proposal to make the break legal. Evans told the L.A. Times that he wasn’t afraid of that monumental hurdle, however.
“America already hates California, and America votes on emotions,” he said. “I think we’d have the votes today if we held it.”
This is so silly that it’s barely worth discussing, but it would potentially keep Democrats out of the White House for a very long time. It might also make Trump’s wall unnecessary; illegal immigrants can just go to the country of California, where they will undoubtedly be welcomed with open arms. And it would turn Hollywood liberals into official foreign enemies instead of, well, unofficial foreign enemies.
Hmm, maybe it’s not so silly after all…
I wonder if ready for vegetarian diet!, maybe you can have ever thing on ocean side of the crack! Nevada could end up as ocean front property! only 1 in 3 think its good idea and their illegals
don’t let the door hit you in the ass!
The door would hit moonbeam Brown, by your thinking….
Where do I sign???
I hope they succeed. Good riddance. And take your buddies north of California with you. You might want to change the name to Looneyidiots as that is befitting to the majority of those residing there. Just think…no more taxpayer money from the rest of the states to prop up the once state of California. That should be more than enough to build an even higher wall for the remaining southern border with Mexico. Trump could then ban all forms of idiocy (movies, tv etc) into the remaining American states. A collective orgasmic thrill would run up their legs I am sure. What a relief to the rest of us.
Nothing wrong with NORTHERN CALIF that is far above SACRAMENTO,they WANT to break away from the south,and already have their name chosen JERRSON
So northern California is not so much socialistic as the rest of the state? One can only hope that is true. What I meant however, is the state of Oregon which seems to be the same as the mainstream state of California. Thanks for your perspective and concern.
What a great idea !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Name it illegals north of the border!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Governor Walker wanted Wisconsin leave the Union. I wondered how Walker would become USA president if Wisconsin had left the Union. Walker would be a foreigner to become US President. Thank God he lost to Trump.
I have followed Walker for a couple of years. Where do you come up with stuff like this?
He finds it in the toilet!!
You don’t believe me? Please query Madison.com. When Walker and GOP won big, they wanted to secede from the Union.
But they must take their portion of the national debt along with their own debt!
Just tear up what they collect from!
Let them go!
Sometimes a tree grows bettor after you cut out the dead wood..
No doubt about it!
What a stupid idea is this? We are America and not the country of California. I know, the rest of America thinks we are just a bunch-o-boobs in this state but there are many of us that believe the state of California can be saved. All we need to do is get rid of our liberal/brain dead government in Sacramento, deport all illegals and shut down the liberals.
If, if, if, anyone succeeds even getting this on the ballot we will have to pack our bags a get out. Nevada or Arizona?
I do not want to leave my home state but if it has to happen then we will go and leave it to the liberals and the illegals, then watch this country of Mexifornia/Liberalistan just go totally broke.
President Trump, do something about these moron/liberal/illegals in Sacramento, we need your help.
the only ones that can help are you and other like you to stand up and fight, spread the truth, and others will back you.
I think it’s time that the sane people out there stand up and do something about it!!
Those so called liberals out there are Marxist/ communist trying to destroy America it’s the communist agenda !!!
Then you folks have to get together and change the culture of CA. It is time for you to do in CA what we have done in the USA – take our government back from the idiots. We sat idly by for two plus decades and look at the mess we’re in…so NO MORE! We voted for candidate Trump, then nominee Trump, and thank God, we now have PRESIDENT Trump despite CA and NY. You can do it. We did!!! God be with you, OldHighlandGuyOne.
I worry about all the people that do not want this and are not wealthy enough to get out. other wise I would say let them have at it. In a years time they would be broke
We are already broke. $25,000,000,000/year spent on welfare the majority of it for illegals. That $25 billion does not even take into account the health care and other non-welfare services. The mindless voters of this state deserve the disaster that is on its’ way.
I know what….They can have Hillary as their president! They voted unanimously for her.
Good! Then they can take in all the refugees! I’m sure they’d be happy to do it! Lol!
I agree with you Janet, let them have them all & leave the rest of the country American.
There was some discussion of Texas seceding if Clinton won. Personally I think that true liberty gives every state the right to secede from the US.
Maybe they should secede, too.
The new Marxist State of MexiFornicators would be a just outcome for the subhumans, especially in Hollywierd that sort of live there!.
WE could release “El Chapo” who would become el presidente, and Hollywood would continue to be the source of the most vile garbage ever projected!
Like ObamaCare, the Marxist State of MexiFornicators, would collapse of its own weight, but before that happens we could ban ALL entertainment from the remaining 49-states, move the companies of Silicon Valley to the east, north to Alaska, or west to Hawaii, impose import taxes for whatever crap they could produce, as well as ALL of our defense installations.
What a relief it would be to remove this environmental hazard to the American people!
Look st Brown and what him teachers and government unions have done to this state is a crime. I hope they get there wishes because they will become bankrupt in just a few years and budinesses will be leaving as fast as they can!
Calif is bankrupt & businesses are leaving.
Good, With California and their 55 electoral votes gone the Democrats would never win another election. Sounds good to me. They are already bankrupt. Just think how far down they will fall without federal money.
I love it…
LOVE IT!!! It would become part of China so we WOULD need a wall to keep Californians from trying to escape to the USA to get away from the China dictator and all their laws and bans on having more than one child or getting rid of any female children they might have-of course that wouldn’t be a problem for them since they love abortions and could make a little money selling their murdered baby body parts!!! This could be a win win for the people of the USA! I’m pretty sure we could get enough votes to help them out! And most of them are crazy anyway!!! They’ll find out just how good they had it after it happens-BUT ON THE CONDITION THEY CANT COME BACK EVER!!! And when the future earthquake comes and half the “Country” falls in the ocean-DONT CALL US!!! Wildfires, mudslides, earthquakes, droughts-DONT CALL US!!! YOU WILL BE ON YOUR OWN!!! Good riddance!!!
Yes, and no water from the Colo. river, no power from Hoover dam, no Natural gas from Texas! They will be in fine shape, just look at them now
How in the name of God do they think they will survive??? Even with ALL the Federal help they get they are still about eyeball deep in debt, just one good flush from bankruptcy! No Federal Aid the flush handle has been used!! LMAO! Dumb @$$es! Do they think if the secede they will continue to or get more Federal Aid?? WHAT ARE THEY SMOKING????
PLEASE!!! Encourage them to go for it!
AMEN!! Turn on the caller ID and if it’s from Kalifornication let it got to the answering machine where it can be deleted without listening to it!!
Obama would be dictator in chief that is what he wanted and left kooks will fall all over him. If that would happen they will go BK even quicker!
Lol, what’s next? Funny people funny stuff.
I live in California and think this issue is so stupid and I do not want this at all. I don’t even trust our voting process when with so many illegals here especially in LA and they are voting . There’s so many liberals here and then we have the Hollywood narcissistic brain dead lunatics that want to spew their hate and disruptive behavior on the American people. California needs more constructive conservatives here and I will not be for succeeding from the United States of America and will do everything I can to stop this foolishness honestly a lot of Californians aren’t for any part of this and we are not all out of our minds like these brain dead liberals here in California. God bless America
I feel for you. I have long thought as you do Im positive that most real californians are also loyal patriotic Americans who love this country. Its not the fault of all citizens in California that the demleftlibs have control of the big cities and the govt, legislature, and the hollywood propoganda squad, and they dont care about forgotten men and women of the rest of the state of california they only care about making sure their liberal leftist facist program get to succeed I will pray for you and California. Im on your side you have NOT been forgotten Good luck fighting the good fight against the brain dead know-it-alls there. Elections in 2 yrs hood luck getting some good conservative people into office then.
yes it is californians fault–they should have protested long ago, they let the left have their way–and sent a bunch of these a holes to my state!
You must be in AZ or Oregon…
Yeah, in California we had them show up from other states because of the weather, college, jobs …most of Hollywood is from the Midwest and east coast. Illegals galore and the ins and border control couldn’t do anything because the Feds blocked them from doing their jobs.
Elaine, I’d like to agree with you about Californian’s loving this country and loyal patriotic Americans, but the question then remains; “Why do they continue to elect these radical disloyal Californians, who daily derive ways to make the people’s lives harder and more expensive and erode the few freedoms we have left, to office? A state that is so congested now that it can barely travel any distances without it being a full days outing, is encouraging more and more residents (legal and illegal) to move here. It flies in the face of all logic. Perhaps it is the “big city syndrome”. It seems that wherever people congregate in large cities (such as Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, etc) they automatically become liberal progressive socialists. It must be something in the water or the air that turns them such. Or perhaps it is because of multiculturalism.
Perhaps (and I will get in a lot of trouble for this) it is because we are allowing too many immigrants to enter our country who do not really want to become Americans. The immigrants of old came here because they saw opportunity, they saw freedom, and they wanted to embrace it by becoming Americans and upholding American values. Today’s immigrants want to live here and enjoy the benefits, but retain their culture, beliefs, and laws of their old country,. This is diluting American patriotism and will be the eventual destruction of our country. Oh yes, we hear the cries of “but that not who we are”; that we are a “kind loving, giving people”. Well I am a kind, loving, giving person, but I do not open the front door of my house and put a sign in the yard that all vagabonds and hoodlums are welcome to come in and enjoy the fruits of my labors. It seems rather ironic that those who cry the loudest about open borders and allowing immigrants to freely enter our country are those who are wealthy and enjoying their private conclaves with their millions and millions (often of tax payers money) of dollars.
No we are losing our country and I doubt it can be saved now. With the diametrically opposed ideologies that exist today I see no avenue for reconciliation. It seems every idea, every action taken is met with protests and violence (mostly from the liberal side), regardless of the true facts and results of the action. The division is so great, powered by completely different visions of what America is and should be, that it will probably never be what it once was. I am old enough to remember the patriotism, the sacrifice, and the loyalty of every American during WWII, and watched these same qualities slowly decline with Korea, Vietnam, and now the Middle East wars. The question I grapple with now “is where has American gone?” God, please forgive us!
I think you are right about the volume of people in the bigger cities it does make the people in smaller cities and rural areas almost irrelevant. They are outvoted by throngs of liberals and illegsls even when they dont want these people elected. You are absolutely right about the difference in immigrants in the past and now. they used to come legally and want to be Americans and embrace our culture and people and laws. The biggest threat now is sharia law. This cannot be tolerated. I only pray that God can help lead us back to what we once were. God bless you
ELAINE HOPE EVERY ONE READS YOUR COMMENTS YOU ARE 100% RIGHT
Amen to that !!!
I think you are right about the volume of people in the bigger cities it does make the people in smaller cities and rural areas almost irrelevant, that is why we have the electoral college.
Without the electoral college three or four major cities would pick and elect the president every time turning our Republic into a Democracy.
Not a Democracy, June: a socialist nightmare.
That’s lost on Dems .,They will never get it. Electoral college was brilliant. This country was never founded as a country with a majority of one. We were formed as a Republic with 3 separate but equal branches of government. Problem is they don’t teach about America in 1776 and beyond . They start at about 1875 or so. The children today are brainwashed into believing we are a democracy without reference to our constitution nor to the republic we were meant to be. It’s shameful but then it’s what the left needs to maintain control . Popular vote was never considered for the simple fact that huge areas of voters would control all elections . God bless Donald Trump and God bless America!!!!!!
But Elaine, the big cities is where the majority lives and that is the problem.
fn demonrats
I realized, in horror, that Hillary Clinton was running for President and having been well aware of the Crooked Clintons and their Clinton Machine, all the way back to Arkansas, I was shocked into action. Strongly advise you contact your Republican Party, work in whatever way you can, pray each day for deliverance. Pick the strongest candidate you can for the Democrats will fight ugly. You can’t send a Poodle in to drain the swamp, you need a Pit Bull. You and you think-alikes have 2 years. Make a difference.
That is why there is an Electoral College.
It’s not a problem. Each state is a voting bloc to itself. The vote in California has nothing to do with the vote in IOWA. It’s how our founders drew it up. My vote doesn’t count so much if popular vote we’re the election process. My state will receive so much of the electoral vote and California wil receive their’s. 50 separate voting blocs to win an election. So brilliant!!!!
I agree, but do you think the good lord will do anything like that when 6 million+ Jews were exterminated during the holacost?
there was no holocaust~
No, well how do you account for all the photo’s of it?
fake news
Ya know Arthur, you sound like a liberal idiot.
I’m not a liberal, but you’re a shvant~
What the hell is a shvant?
You are~
Oh, okay, man you are an idiot.
Maybe I am, but I’m not a “stupid” idiot as you~
You’re not only an idiot, but you’re a ass-hole!
You are a shvant thats sucks cock- california cupcake?
What do you do sit on this web-site?
What a weirdo!
Done wiping your mouth?
Just replying to mail from a known stempuffer as
a courtesy~
Hindu word meaning placid but can’t figure why he uses it . One of those academia morons trying to impress
Thanks ole buddy, & thats what I figured.
Have nothing to do with Hindu words. Besides using such words only convinces me you are a denier. You are a leftie and racist as lefties are. You are a scmuck. Your side doesn’t get it. Anarchy will not work in America. We are a well armed society and will not allow a bunch of radical misfits to take over. Am looking for this administration to bring all law breakers to justice. There time of terror is over. Hope they start with lawless mayors who are breaking immigration laws. Would love to see all of them run into court. Federal court.
You are a stupid idiot!!! Hindu, WTF?
Not nice to call someone names. Arthur is probably soooooo tolerant. It’s what the left claims as we see all the riots burning and pillaging going on. Must be fake news. It’s really not happening. Funny I have never seen a tea partier or right to life folks setting fires and beating people up, killing people, destroying public property . It really looks like the left are the real problem in this country . Terrorists really. Must learn from ISIS. Funded by Soros . Cal Berkeley NYU two more Alinsky universities . Racist, anti-Christian anti Jew . Intolerant . Anti free speech . Since Nov 8th the left has shown America exactly why Clinton was rejected . They will be rejected in 2018 also. People want jobs and to live in peace and are fed up with the hate and anger spewing from these anarchists. They have had enough. I believe democrats will lose big in the senate in mid terms. HUGE!! They have learned nothing.
Holocaust denier? Guess 9/11 didn’t happen either. Not to mention Pearl Harbor or the Civil War. By saying something in history didn’t happen you are justified? In what may I ask?
Don’t care, just sick of the redundant crying and get
the jews on a rant. Hows that?
So much for tolerance . Sounds like the racist left to me.
I am a racist, but not on the left, however, anyone is better than a fckn Mic~
There’s something called a slippery slope, Elaine. The farther down you go the steeper and slipperier the slope becomes. As one descends the slope you reach a point beyond which you cannot recover. I fear California has passed that point.
In the movie “The Hunt for Red October” Sean Connery (Captain of the Submarine Red October) quoted Thomas Jefferson when he offered an opinion that is applicable to California’s plight: “I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing.” I will be very surprised if patriotic Californians can defeat the criminals at the ballot box.
Swampfox19. I am afraid you are right. Its sad because i know the real californians want change, but like you said, too late. I can only pray. But the overwhelming lib and illegal population in the big cities just cant be matched by the rural folks and those in small towns. I hold out some hope tho’ because Miracles can happen….like President Trump winning. A lot of people thought that could never happen. So I do hold on to hope. Btw I really like the hunt for red october. Good suspense movie
Good, bye bye snowflakes~
They passed that when Reagan left. Look at their ruling class since. That can be blamed on people just sitting back and letting it happen. California is run by academia , Hollywood and community organizers. A bastion of political correctness and diversity and safe spaces . Forget tolerance or free speech or the right to bear arms. Really ?? I always say be careful what you wish for cause it can bite you in the arse. So it has. There is no return for California or any of the left coast states. There are others in the same place and I hope they secede also. Just a drain on the rest of America. We can build more walls if needed .
That is why I voted for Trump. I hope you did too. We should put more people like
him in power and authority to guide our country for the legal Americans.
You’re so correct ramesaz, when the cancer gets so bad it gets cut out of the body, right. So, the answer now is how does the Doctor operate on this body to get rid of the bad parts. The Doctor could take the bad parts, tie the legs together, add a cinder block for good measure and toss it into the drink and hope it doesn’t kill the fish.
Start by riding us of the influence of Soros and his money.
Your choice or no choice but your choice no fence sitters now, is there?
Ridding, did you mean? Alas, Autocorrect has no human to check it’s veracity.
fckn critic
Soros is the devil come to life. Research him on Google. It will make your head hurt. You know the Clintons and the Obamas are his **tches, don’t you? Also Richard Branson, that where the O’Brahmas are hiding out at his Neckers Island, probably with Soros and his advisors after false-flagging a trip to Palm Springs.
My broad brush, he’s a POS jew~
Trump is the doctor for Americans. If the nut jobs will leave him alone.
ramesaz — May God bless you. Your comments are solid, sensible and deserving of support. I agree with all you said and hope a movement of change can, someday, begin to take effect in California.
Well consider this……Why did the HISPANIC LEADERSHIP that dominates this State’s many positions of power work so hard for so long to make it legal for ILLEGALS to get Drivers Licenses….and at the same time fight just as hard to avoid making it a law that PHOTO IDs be required for Voting.The Illegals have aall the rights the rest of us cherish by having a drivers license. Not having to show a photo ID makes it possible for anyone wanting to do so, to vote…DUH !!!The rest of us arebeing OUTVOTED and the LIBERALS like it just exactly that way. They will try anything and get away wth most of it. We The People are
just plain SCREWED
Gene-You’re right, it will be a one party system one day soon. I maybe be worm dirt but i see it coming. I have adult children who i believe will see and definitely my grandchildren will see it.
It’s a one party system already in California. The sneaky leftists got the public to vote in a measure that puts only the top two contenders onto the ballot. They run 20 to 30 people and conservatives don’t have a chance. So in November, Californians had a choice between two — what I call disgusting — democrats for office of U.S. Senate!
It is crooked politics for sure.
. . . .and i’m sick & tired of those 2 senators holding the entire USA hostage with their agendas.
The Liberals will love the system they want to build until it moves against them. As long as the electoral college was working in their favor they loved it. Now they hate it. See what I mean?
Trump has stated he thinks there was massive voter fraud in 2016. He has called for an investigation. The Dems who checked out voter fraud (couldn’t believe they could have lost in the ‘blue wall states’) began berating him for wanting an investigation. I think they are scared. I would bet that investigation would include California.
PAT >>>>I am not certain of the timeline when the Democrats were berating TRUMP about his voter fraud allegations.
However, I would bet good money that it was all about the time when THEY THOUGHT Hillary was going to win and were afraid the Investigation would turn up the awful truth…..that there was a bunch and mostly in favor of HER. As for CA being involved….the investigation will show a lot more than even the Republicans are expecting, mainly that the fraud includes, MANY of the usual suspects, the dead etc….but the ILLEGALS voting will be Astounding and then astounding some more. Just watch.
also chicago!
Very well said, the number one reason we’v seen a down turn in the U.S.A. is it mainly started in California, with the hippie generation, with their free Love and drugs and so on.
But the main reason things in our country and the Progressive left is, they don’t believe in God any more, the hippies tuned to drugs in stead of God and and it snowballed from there. What was a religious or God fearing country is now an evil Babylonian frontier, it’s only going to get worse until it’s totally destroyed, Read The Book of Revelations! This country was blessed like no other country in the history of the world, since this country has denounced God and trampled all over His Commandments and now we are seeing fruits of our inequities. I live on the West coast not in Calif. or Or. and have seen a varied downturn in the life styles that have brought down the quality of life in my area, it’s not good! I praise Trump in His many ideas and actions, but I do think that the Evil Progressive Left will destroy America before it can get better, because they don’t care, they’er like Rats they crap in they’er own beds!
Well said!!! You are correct in everything you said. When you take God out of anything, you know you are on the road to hell. I pray Trump will help us out more than we ever ever thought because the Lord heard our cries, and He did answer our prayers about Trump getting in office. No one can make me believe differently. Franklin Graham said it best. God put Trump in power. I do believe the left will be our down fall as well. We Christians just can’t let the devil take us over.
The Devil and the Liberal Progressives will destroy this country but not the Christian people, their sick Evil life styles will not prevail over God!
True!
That’s true , but I’m optimistic since We were able to get Trump elected that if we keep showing up in Huge numbers through All elections just maybe we will keep the sick left out of power . Hopefully he will get our laws enforced and take this Wonderful Country back to its Great Christian roots!!
broad brush? I don’t believe in god or democrats. GFY~
this is positively the problem. There is so much corruption in this state government, that the illegal trade is profitable! Where would all of the farmers, government officials, hotels ,especially housekeeping, get their employees from? There is too much payola going to government officials to allow these people to continue to infiltrate this state. IF they are in this country illegally, then apply for citizenship, learn the language, if you don’t want citizenship, then you should return to your own country. Teach your children english , so our schools can teach without having to show special attention to those who can’t speak English. It isn’t fair to English speaking children to have part of their attention diverted because half the class can’t communicate. This is not privy to just Hispanic ,it’s regarding all foreigners entering this country. If there was an investigation into the State and city governments in California, requiring them to divulge agreements with immigration agencies, the truth would be staggering. This I’m certain would never happen due to the inflammatory information that would surface, yet, they can demand any and all information be released on Donald Trump. yet supporting Hillary Clinton, this whole chaotic mess is unacceptable. What happened to California?
Because we are outnumbered by Liberals and the millions of ILLEGALS who cross our borders daily,the last count was 30,000 a month,and GOD know just how many TERRORISTS are crossing with them
Moonbeam destroyed California in the seventies,How the devil was he allowed to run again.
I live in Minnesota and we have a problem with the deer population. Wait a minute! I know what the topic is. We have too many deer living in big city backyards where they can spread disease and eat from our vegetable and flower gardens. There are too many deer raiding farmers’ corn fields in the out-state where they have easy food that they don’t have to work for. In the woods where we want them their population is very low, almost at extinction levels at times. Now if we could just relocate the deer to the right habitant, all would be good. Now do you see the analogy? Let’s offer the conservatives who want a US where free food without work is not the norm the ability to relocate east of the California borders and have the Liberals who think all/everything should be free and paid for by someone else, move to California. Let’s see how that works. At least a large groups of “non-contributors” would be out of the US voting base. I am not sure what would drive California’s economy under this scenario — Hollywood? Facebook? Would be interesting to watch!
In the 3 liberal operated recount states they found massive liberal voter fraud and liberal voter fraud has been found all across our country but until now no one stood up and said it ends now and there are going to be investigations across this country to see just how massive liberal voter fraud has gotten and we all know liberals have been stealing elections for generations and over the years they’ve came up with even more ways to steal elections and its time it ends now ! Republicans haven’t had a person with a backbone to stand up to the liberal party and the liberal media because they knew the liberal media will try and destroy their careers and they’ll go after their families or do worse to them but Trump and some other Republicans aren’t afraid to get in the liberal media’s faces and called them cheaters and liars and that scares liberals and the liberal media to death because their use to walking all over Republicans and getting by with it ! In every election our local media reports liberal voter fraud and liberals cutting tires on Republicans car’s and violent things like that every election but the liberal media never reports any of it but you can bet if it was a Republicans who were doing what liberals have been doing for years the liberal media would be talking about it 24/7 and calling us every name in the book ! The liberal media stopped talking about the 3 recount states when Trump got more votes and Clinton’s numbers never changed and they would never report what all 3 recounts found massive liberal voter fraud , bad enough their calling for an investigation and their going to investigate across our country and Photo Voter ID will become the law of the land in all states whether liberals and the liberal media like it or not because we can take a page out of Obama’s and the liberal party’s play book and all we need is a pen in Trump’s hand to make it law. I think without liberal Voter Fraud liberals may never win another election for a long time . They are bullies and nasty mean and violent and I think they will beat innocent people or even kill them to get what they want and the way they’ve been acting during the election and on election day and every day sense shows just how looney the liberal party is in our country and the last 8 years and the election and the way they’ve acted since election day has also made it clear to the American people and the world that the liberal media is owned and operated by the liberal party , their not news at all their just talking heads for the liberal party and their the liberal party’s attack dogs ! Liberals really don’t care about illegals they just want them to break the law and vote for their party on election day and that’s the reason Obama decided to free prisoners because they wanted them to vote for their party. In 8 years Obama and the liberal party has done nothing for blacks and minorities across this country and Schumers little crying spell was a photo-op and nothing else ! The only people liberals care about is the liberal party and no one else !
Don’t worry about the politically correct bs. The truth hurts. The immigrants of old obeyed the law. These pieces of feces don’t care. My grandmother spent her time on Ellis island. If it is good enough for her it is good enough for anyone else who wants to become a legal law abiding citizen.
I’m a Californian and I voted for Trump, so not all of us are loons.
Amen to that!
ramesaz — Excellent point. If CA has a majority of Americans who understand and support our Constitution and our traditions, why do they overwhelmingly elect left-wing liberal Democrats to their state government House and Senate? Those bodies are OVERWHELMINGLY Democrat. They only got that way because that’s how most of their citizens vote. They might never understand that they are destroying their state.
We are a state that has been overrun by Midwesterners, east coasters, foreigners and Mexicans. Want to help? I’m for sending them all back to where they came from or sending them to their maker? Either way, doesn’t matter to me.
Kriss– Midwesterners who migrated to CA are not the source of your liberal-caused problems. The Midwest is the part of the country that is most connected to what has made the US great. It’s Midwesterners that the liberal nuts supporting secession want to get away from.
You had better look closely at what your saying as the Midwest has always until this year been union affiliated and deeply entrenched with the Dems. My oldest had many friends growing up playing sports at a high level. Many of the parents were from Michigan, Iowa, Illinois, Ohio and Wisconsin. About 95% of them were Dems. We have very good friends that were from Iowa…they were republicans but the vast majority of their huge family from Burlington are died in the wool Dems.
Michigan and Wisconsin ended up going republican but it wasn’t a sure thing along with Iowa.
First off I’m a Marine 1973-83…second I’m a 3rd generation Californian with my kids and grandkids living here. I’d let them do it if they bought me and all of my family out at top dollar. Otherwise I’m an American patriot and they would be dealing with a bunch of us that were trained to fight both foreign and domestic enemies. If they try it they need to know I don’t have room to take prisoners….lol
The state is full of Mexicans, and they become politicians and get their way. La Raza, a Mexican group , said years ago that their goal is to take back their country by invading and having lots of babies, and be the majority. They are on their way with California.
ramesaz: You have written this well. Your second paragraph, the one for which you thought you might get into trouble, is right on target. It is the selfishness of many who come. The entire multicultural notion is really an endpoint of liberalism. Thomas Jefferson foresaw this entire problem nearly 225 years ago and recommended against uncontrolled immigration, especially from countries which do not share our general cultural beliefs. [ISLAM fits this category perfectly.]
However, to liberals, there are no absolutes. . . .which may be one big reason why they have trouble with science. You know, the sun does not rise every morning nor set every evening. The basic problem is: there is no other country in the world which will permit this kind of thinking and action within its borders. If you go to some other country to live, you learn the language, you abide by the laws period.
You have nailed the motives of most of the illegal aliens: live off the benefits offered here by misguided liberals and paid for by hard working taxpayers. Couple this with a direct plan to omit much of our real history in public schools plus adding in PC, [which has its own results, too], and one can sow considerable confusion in the succeeding generation. In fact confusion concerning our own history is one of the end points of the whole politically correct movement.
In our case here in California, it has long been the plan of the Mexican Government to work it any way they can to take over all of California and other parts of the western USA on specious historical grounds. Mario Obledo, one of the big founders of the La Raza Lawyers Association of San Diego along with Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who was the judge in the famous case a couple of years ago in which a mentally/emotionally disturbed lady was trying to sue Trump, was on a talk show some time ago and came out flatly and told the show’s host that, leveling all other considerations, the entire purpose of the LRLA of San Diego was the complete take over of California with the object being to spread this whole movement to other western States. Try that one out on your friends!
Well with OBAMA forming this shadow government right near the White House things will only get worse . Obama is the leader of the OFA which has some hardcore paid agitators to create mass destruction across the country. This organization colluding with the intelligence community and the media is out to take out Trump in order to preserve Obamas legacy. It’s already happening with the leaks of Trumps meetings with the presidents of Australia and Mexico. Gen. Flynn was supposedly exposed to the press from within the OBAMA administration. These leaks started in early January when OBAMA was still in office. The AG should immediately call for a grand jury and subpoena all the intel leaders who had access to this very classified information . What these people are doing is criminal. Trump needs to get to these traitors immediately . This is undermining our republic and could put Americans in danger. Having the agencies doing their own investigation is not what’s needed. We need a grand jury to hear the testimonies under oath as to what Obamas administration has been doing and who the leakers are. I would also subpoena Traitor OBAMA himself. Once a community Alynskyite always a commie. Obama and Clinton are out to literally destroy our country. This is about creating a banana Republic whereby through the intel community future presidents will be destroyed . The Democratic Party today is all part of this takeover. Look at the people up for leadership in the DNC. Ellison, Perez? Really? Obama wants Perez because he is a radical LaRaza type. The plan is to combine the OBAMA foundation with the OFA and strengthen the DNC through recruiting and massive fundraising. I also believe the AG should have these organizations investigated. They are 501c whereby their donors do not have to be listed. This organization is separate from Soros operations like move on. Org and BLM. These are globalists and they do not want Trump to succeed in actually bringing jobs back to America. Building the pipeline. Not going along with the Paris accords on climate change , destroying the Iran deal, supporting Israel, reducing taxes. In order to maintain control, Trump and his administration have to go. This is serious stuff and your not going to hear the MSM talk about it. They are in collusion with OBAMA and the shadow government . So with that said California cannot secede as those electoral votes are needed in future elections. Them being a country unto themselves would actually be good for us but bad for OBAMA and the globalists . It s not going to happen . The states have to agree to it. It’s not just a vote than can allow them to secede . I would have everyone look into what OBAMA is up to. It’s not American or patriotic . It’s all about him and making America suffer. If they succeed there will be millions of patriotic Americans marching across this country in strength. Will be lock and load time. Taking over this Republic by a bunch of commies is not going to happen. This is why we have the right to carry arms. It’s moments like these . God bless Donald Trump and God bless America.
There is a time in the future that those loyal to America are going to be out numbered because you may think of the situation as a body that has a cancer that so spread out that it’s too late. The body will die because the cancer will continue to spread. My advice to those who want to remain good loyal Americans is to start preparing now while they still have time and the need to hurry won’t be there, also they’ll get a better price for what they have now. If the illegals, homos all the other types of what evers want it that bad, they will eventually find a way.
I have come to believe that we are very, very close to civil war, what we are seeing in California (illegals, crazy liberals who hate the U.S.) is happening in the large cities all over America. My question is not if there will be a civil war but when. How much more of the BS is the rest of the country, that believes in the America that we were before the previous four presidents came into office, going to take? How much longer before people start shooting the talking heads at NBC, ABC, CNN, CBS, MSNBC; who are the ones egging the protestors and the human garbage on?
If you read the newspapers of 1859, 1860 and into 1861 the vitriol was as bad as it is today. Unless the media and some of the fools in the Democratic party Schummer for one) tone down the rhetoric, it will be a replay of April 1861 in the near future.
I will tell you just like one man told me. He says we will fight the left one day. And I think it is getting very very close. He said mark them and remember them.
You would be surprised of the number of people who feel that way. I hear it from all over.
But I still hold out hope that those on the left that have even a modicum of intelligent will realize that the stupidity of the attacks on Trump are only going to anger the supporters of our Republic and the ideas of our liberty’s and freedoms. If it was left to the “snowflakes” we would be a warm and touchy-feely society that wouldn’t have to think for itself, letting the government do it for us. If you want a look at the utopia that the left dreams of, read “The Court of the Red Czar” about Stalin.
The fight is coming sooner than we think, so very,very sad. As Ben Franklin said” in those wretched countries where a man cannot call his tongue his own, he can scarcely call anything his own. Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech”. Sound familiar, it is where we are at today. PC movement?
Jim, you are so right. And you would be very surprised at who really are on the left. The man I was referring to earlier told me the people who were dems on my street. I could have passed out with one couple he told me that were. They go to church, pretend to believe in God, have a very good living and the husband is supposed to have good sense. I want say the wife is the sharpest knife in the drawer, and that is probably why they are dems.Lol I saw the wife one day at the grocery store not long after Obama went into office in 2008. She said all those crazy white folks voted for Obama. I said, yes, they sure helped to put him in. I chuckled under my breath because I knew the man told me they voted for him. They are liars and snakes. I have a person in my family that I am ashamed to say is on the left. She fits the bill of a dem. She is mean, a liar, and would do just about anything these protesters are doing on tv. Crazy!!
I pray to God it doesn’t happen but theses LibTURD B!TCHES AND BA$TARDS keep pushing and pushing and it WILL happen! Again I pray it won’t but it’s getting closer by the minute!
“What they FAIL to realize is that their “BIG MOUTH’S” are no match for a bullet or bullets”!!! Most LibTURD @$$HOLES are scared of guns and don’t own any. Does the analogy of bringing a knife to a gun fight come to mind?? Contrary to the magic shows catching a bullet with ones teeth is B.S.!!
Good Girl Elaine…..this idea has to be the worst yet from the LEFT and it’s leaders.
I would enjoy hearing just exactly how they think that when bankruptcy sets in they will avoid being overtaken by Mexico….what a frightening thought that is and a very believable and possible one too. This is just silly and it’s promoters should be put away for their own safety so they don’t hurt themselves…..Good Lord Save us from those who would bury us alive.
Thanks gene only the good Lord can save us. His instrument is President Trump. We all need to help tho’. When Pres Trump was sworn in he was 70 yrs 7 months and 7 days old. I think God is giving us a heads up. Now we have to show we are willing to stand and be heard.
God is Good….maybe he can help indoctrinate the nut cases who fail to even learn the facts of the matter before tying up Airports with their waste of time and effort boycotts and other stupid efforts.
We need to find the money behind these affronts and castrate them
Gene im not positive but i read that george soros is backing them
Sure, of course, hardly a surprise there.
His scummy douche-bag presence is everywhere
And so is that former so called Prez. He is out, but he is not completely out if you know what I mean.
Soros – Clintons and David Brock are behind all the commotion.
Elaine,
Work in groups as they work in groups.
Start by riding us of the influence of Soros and his money.
Your choice or no choice but your choice no fence sitters now, is there?
It starts in Kindergarten and continues through High School and College
GOD help us,if we don’t get rid of these liberal pushing,TEACHERS
Why aren’t the parents complaining to the Schools about some of the nonsense being
taught or what is NOT being taught? The far too strong UNIONS have a whole lot of influence on all that goes on with the schools and on much of why nothing is done about any of it.
Because the parents are as bad as what is being taught. Half of them have no idea where their kids are much less what they are being taught. Grandmas and Grandpaws are having to raise their kids while the parents are laid up in the bed every day strung out on drugs or drunk. I know because I was one of those teachers. It is a good thing I am retired because I would have refused to teach the crap and excuse me for saying it, but that is exactly what it is.
Well JJ…very nice to hear from the inner circle. Folks read these rants from uneducated
folks like me and wonder if I just make it up to be, or to sound mean…..your words go a lot further than you probably imagine in clarifying the issue. Thanks so much
You are so welcome.
You are not uneducated at all! People on the outside do not see what we teachers see. I could write you a book.
And then those parents that are strung out on drugs and alcohol or want work bring you papers to fill out on their kids to say they are functioning on low levels, so they can be put in special education. That way they can draw a check on them. Some of them have 4 or 5 kids in school. Those kids never got a dime of that money. It was spent on drugs and alcohol. I will tell you that I never ever put a kid in Special Ed unless he/she really really needed it. I saw teachers who would put anybody in it to keep on the good side of the parents. I did not give a flying flip whose child it was if they did not need it, they did not get my blessings for it. Finally, the parents picked up on who would do it for them and who wouldn’t. Every year. I got less and less paperwork to fill out.
Just simply astounding….I had never heard that one before. Is this part of the same scam regarding the OVERUSE of Ritalin? I believe the BOOK you should write should be written….it is another reason for the current LIBERAL JACKASS operation we know as Politicians, Union leaders and stooges, and School Board Officials we all figure are bought and paid for by various sources would then be exposed
I am afraid to say it, but yes it is. One child even got 20,000 in back pay. It is the truth!!
No wonder the government is broken!!
Your words are so very true and they give me great anguish just knowing what things are going into my Grandchildren’s ears and eyes w/ 2 of them still in elementary school and 1 in middle school and 1 in high school; and then they also have the social situation, which is a continuance for the deceptive brainwashing that goes on in this world. Some serious real and dark things in this world and it is called evil.
Amen!
Absolutely!!! Amen! Amen! Amen!
what does 70/7/7 have to do with god~
Thanks for asking Arthur ittus. In the bible 777 is The Lords number , as 666 is satans number
It’s 70/7/7 not 777 or what you believe?
I don’t mind 666 and use it frequently, it’s only a number~
They are all just numbers but for thoussnds of years people have accepted 777 as The Lords number and 666 as satans number. I just dont count the zero because it has no numerical value on its own, and i broke it down to 777. I believe it was a sign from God if you dont believe that its ok. I want to thank you for asking in such a nice way. So many people can be so mean. I really appreciate it
Now, as 777 believer, you can surely throw stones!!!!!
You are a total HYPOCRITE as most bible thumpers aspire to be~
Time for you to be blocked from my life……..
Thats ok block me I was only answering a question YOU asked me, and I thanked you for being kind? So I dont know how you think i was throwing stones at you? I meant it when I thanked you for asking kindly and told you if you didnt believe iI didnt mind. Im sorry, but if you dont want an answer, why fid you ask??
It was received as sarcasm~
Im so sorry you took it that way. I really was not being sarcastic, i was just trying to explain what you asked about. And I really did think you asked kindly and I did appreciate it. Some people really have been mean, and I thought I should say thank you because it made a difference and I wanted you to know. Thank you for giving me a chance to explain
That’s great for you to respond.
Not an excuse, however, I’ve dealt with the public for way too long and have acquired a defensive attitude~
Well gene I think I pissed off arther ittus, But im not sure how. I just answered a question he asked me and thanked him for asking kindly next thing i know hes gonna block me cuz im a hypocrite. Oh well i didnt know him before so no loss for me
the state is overwhelming progressive liberal , throw in the illegals and dopers and you will never see a conservative in that state again , moonbeam , piggy pelosi , and foolish feinstein will probably put a bounty on them since they didnt pass the bill calling them an endangered species
Most of those Hollywood morons believe it or not, are from other states. Just look up your favorite actor and you will see they’re from all over. They settled here in CA because they came here to become actors..we had enough of our own nuts, didn’t need more. They get in the wrong crowd and start partying and then, they open their big fat traps that totally embarrass us!!! Wish they would all shut up!!! We have a lot of morons living in the Bay Area as well…including the airhead Dems that think they speak for all of us..THEY DON’T!!! We all know they got in office here by cheating because there’s no voter ID here so that’s how they accomplish it. Trump won the popular vote as well. Subtract all the illegals, deceased, people who voted multiple times here…TRUMP WON BY A LANDSLIDE!!!!
Thank you for your comment so true and to the point but yes I have just begun and hopefully in two years I will succeed with my fellow Californians and we will shut these idiots up again thanks god bless America
And without the electoral college this is how all of America would be ran!!!!
Yes, they need a new governor. There is a good Republican Peter Thiel who would be able to bring California on the right track.
Hope they can get the voters out to elect him
I hope he runs for governor we sure need him but I think you’ll see the conservatives start speaking up honestly enough is enough we’re just not going to take It anymore . Thanks and god bless America
I hope so, too. And God bless America
How about the people with brains doing something about the rampant stupidity out there!!
They are outnumbered!
I agree wholeheartedly I intend to do my part . Thank you god bless America
Count me in..I’ve been fighting for years.
You said exactly what I feel & think. I live here, too. Brown screwed us last time he was gov. His queen city ‘frisco, left wingers, illegals, junkies were & still are behind him. Next yr is our election. We need to get the dems out.
I feel your pain. I live in sane upstate NY and we’re saddled with NYC insanity.
I feel for you. I hope things begin to go better for you good luck getting some good sane people into office there Im on your side
I live there too, and NY is made up of insane leftists
You might think you will. You’ll be called all kinds of things that will be a put down plus by then California may very well be on it’s way to being a different country of its’ own. If you still want to be an American, you might want to begin to make plans now where you want to move. I agree, Brown has been a negative on California such as signing a law that makes teachers teach that it’s OK to do whatever a person wants so long as it feels OK. When I read about that I started wondering just what he does for pleasure. He has to be some kind of lunatic besides a left wing nut.
Let California secede and become a country all it’s own. The good guys will move to another state. Then we can build a wall along the Cal. border to control immigration from there. All the Federal funds that the illegals live off of will be gone which will be a good thing! Then all will be much better for the USA! Then on to NYC!
Hello Marine
I have to agree with you. Let So.Cal. sucede from the U S, because I don’t think Northern Ca. will go for it.
If So. Cal. sucedes, then all of the gov’t funding will be cut off and then who’s going to support all of these illegals—Gov Brown???
Since he’s the idiot who wants them here to grab the votes, let him support them by spreading his wealth, then we’ll see how far that goes!!!
Northern California wants to break away from the liberal hell hole in the South
and the name they have chosen for THIER NEW STATE is JEFFERSON
DHall
I didn’t know that the Northern Cal. wants to break away from So. Cal, and I don’t blame them at all. Jefferson State is a great name and looking at some of the votes in No. Cal. there were thousands of votes for Trump! Of course the liberal new liars would hope that others wouldn’t see this.
I’m going to check it out about Jefferson, and thanks!!!
Yes, we would love too! We have tried forever. Never succeeded.
And what would CA support anyone with when all bank accounts are frozen and taken by the Fed? CA does not have money of its own. All residents would forfeit all money and accounts to the Fed. All Federal Banks in CA would be closed.
You have that right!!! Thank you for serving our country!!!
I appreciate that, JJ!
He’s an embarrassment!!
Yes I agree wholeheartedly with you . I will speak up and do all I can to stop this and help stop California from all this nonsense. Protecting all these illegals who I believe voted this last election we need to get a voter ID in place here. I really believe that Californians have had enough of this . I believe we shall prevail. Thank you we can do this god bless America
WE WILL PREVAIL!! Enough is enough!!!
God bless you too. I would move if it is possible. Get out of there now. We love ya’ll, and we are praying for ya’ll. I feel so sorry for you. I wished I could take all you good people in who wants to get out of there. God bless you. I will pray God finds away for you to get out.
I second that motion!!!
You said it. hollyweird is brain dead.
Yes they are and they behave like pampered pets with nothing real to say with no real message or even any substance to their redirect. Their like lost sheep following blindly. Thank you for your comment God bless America
You’re welcome Dianne.
I second that motion!!!
In Michigan the upper half of the state for years wanted to leave Michigan, they managed to get it on the ballot. Why did they want to leave, you might ask. So the gambling and big time racketeers could do as they wished. If they became a new state it would have been an open State, no road repairs, No nothing by Michigan, they would have been on there own. People outside of the cities voted by a landslide to remain with Michigan and the gamblers alone with the racketeers left for greener pastures. Now many of them are in California. So it’s not the people that usually want this change, all you have to do is follow the money trail. I would bet Moonbeam Brown is in cahoots with the gamblers and racketeers, he would sell his mother for a buck. The suckers and Illegals in the big cities keep voting him into office for his open borders and cheap labor. Brown’s platform is about the same as the DNC’s, for that reason the Democrat Party is losing support. Ten years from now if the DNC continue on the same path there will be no DNC. The same may be said about California if they continue with the plan to become separate country with open borders in a short time they will become part of Mexico, because of the Illegal vote that Brown has given them.
It sure would be cheaper for the USA to be rid of California, they are a big drain on our national budgit, with all the welfare, sanctuary cities, federal money for roads. With all the money we would save we could build a wall around them too.
I agree there are so many illegals here and they get a drivers license so they go ahead and vote illegally. Obama on the campaign trail for Hillary Clinton he told the illegals to go ahead and vote no one would know or could come after you. I was told that at some of the polling places all you neede was a PGE bill in your name to vote . Yes we need to get governor Brown gone and a good conservative in office . No more crazies in office their hurting our state. Thank you for you comment I appreciate it god bless America
Maybe you could vote to split California in two. Half to Communist China (who is fueling this effort no doubt) and half to America.
Or how about selling mexico part of california? We keep the military bases and rural and smaller towns (and we get Disneyland) and sell mexico l.a. san fran. etc Wonder how long pelosi would love the illegals once they become the owners of her area
GEORG SOROS is a huge problem.
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/20/billionaire-george-soros-has-ties-to-more-than-50-partners-of-the-womens-march-on-washington/
George Soros is a HUGE problem.
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/20/billionaire-george-soros-has-ties-to-more-than-50-partners-of-the-womens-march-on-washington/
Marine: Thank you for your service. Semper Fi.
Well, we need half for a very valuable sea port. Half could be liberal, and the other Northern half could be conservative. With the money we would save on welfare alone and sanctuary cities we could build a wall around them.
I really believe a lot of Californians have had enough nonsense from these crazy liberals. California is ready to change course . Shame on the liberals and Hollywood were simply not interested in their brain dead craziness and election is coming and out they go. I know I will be doing my part. Thanks god bless America
It is sad to see what the “leftists” and Commiewood have done to California. I visited several years ago before it went totally haywire, and it was a beautiful State and pleasant place to be. Not now.
George Soros is fueling the effort.
The liberals in California have always voted democratic and always hated America. Its nothing new !!
I say lets divide the State up llke North and south Korea, but I can’t tell you where the liberals will get their welfare checks from, their ADC, medicad, and food stamps from. All the federal assistance they receive, and the debt they will have to pay the USA. Who’s gonna be their president , El Chopo !!
I say let them go, they are a drain on the Federal government any way. Welfare budget will be cut in half.
Screw them Bastards.
I agree, with letting them go, but build a wall will 3 entrance/exit points, one on the southern most end, one in the middle and 1 on the northern most part. After the wall is built put a military base at each entrance/exit and plenty of border patrol agents to insure that no one is able to get in without a visa that abides by the same standards as all emigrans/visitors. After 5 years or less, when people are starving, and have little to no potable water, they will be begging to rejoin the Union, but most likely they will be a dollar short and a day late!!
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I love America and live in California and I believe our time has come to stand up to these brain dead liberals. Your right that California has always voted democrat but I believe a lot of Californians have had enough and the time has come to get the straight jackets out for these crazy liberals . We have Hollywood who is just out there they have no message accept hatred for our president and then we have all these illegals who I believe are voting illegally. We need some conservatives in office here it’s coming I believe. Thanks for your comment God bless America
I don’t have a problem with people being strong willed , but this is just crazy. I say just let these Bastards have the state, they will soon find out they cant afford nothing with out the Federal government. I have spent the last 10 years working in Mexico, and I will tell you that you have never seen problems like they have there. They will have no one to blame but them self when things take a crap in California. Divide the state, and let them have their country. It cost the federal government to much to prop that state up any way. I feel sorry for any conservative that lives there.
Remember Diane, we were not always blue..in the time of Reagan we were red and some years before that.
I have family there and I am sure they are not for it. I worry about it because My aunt has been there since World War II after her husband came out of the Navy. he fought for that piece of land and I am appalled at some of the stuff that comes out of that state. They are already bankrupt who will bail them out if they leave the US? Maybe Hollywood will do it they have more money than the everyday person
Hollywood??? Elizabeth! Those of the Hollywood crowd ONLY care about themselves and their money! They do not care about the rest of you….WAKE UP and smell the roses!
You did not understand me. I said let them go. let Hollywood feed cloth and house the illegals Just jesting.See how long it lasts. My concern is for the people that do not want this. One being my aunt who is 89 years old and has been there since her husband came out of World War II from the S Pacific. He fought for that little piece of land as a navy vet
Yes the crazy liberals, Hollywood and the illegals have created a mess here in California . With everything going on I really believe push comes to shove most Californians have had enough of all the chaos and are going to step up and take care of these brain dead liberals and let them know no more. We really need to put voter ID in place because all the illegals here are more than likely voting it’s to easy here. Then we need a governor that’s a conservative . I will be doing all I can to get some conservatives in office and these crazies out thanks for the comment God bless America
They will also lose .ALL MILITARY BASES
If you hate CA so much, why don’t you move?
Contrary1: It takes a lot of money to move from one house in the same neighborhood to another house in he same neighborhood. It takes thousands of $$$$$$ to move from one state to another, making it almost imposable for Dianne to leave, that is unless your offering to pay for their moving expenses, housing, food etc. until they get settled and find a job!
Well, considering how much more valuable the CA property is than that in other states, she should be making a great profit and could have a much better standard of living in most other states.
Doesn’t always work that way ,there are lots of States lots of States just as expensive.
Sorry if I made you believe that I hate California but I don’t thanks and god bless America
I will pray for you and for your state Dianne, but also, if it looks like nothing is getting any better, you might pray about moving to a more conservative state. God Bless
Thank you but I really believe Californians are going to change course a lot of us have had enough. Thanks god bless America
I always thought California was a Benefit to being a great Part of America. It’s a Beautiful State. As all Our States are in their Own way. I’m sorry they feel they have to seperate themselves from the rest part of America. I don’t feel America feels that way at all. Actually it’s a very Sad Situation. I didn’t realize They felt Such Hatred towards the rest of their Country. Whatever will be will be. Good Luck!!!!
No we love America and all of it’s states. Yes we have a bunch of crazy lunatics called liberals. We can’t forget Hollywood the cancer here in California their behavior and hatred for our new president is appalling and disgraceful. They invested so much in Hillary and didn’t get their way and their use to getting everything they want . Then we have a huge illegal problem and I believe a lot of them are voting. Voting here is to easy we need ID voter registration. With that said I believe most the sane Californians are going to take California back from all these weirdos and get some conservatives in office here. God bless America thanks for your post
Diane — Go, go madam. I like what you say. I posted a comment saying that we’d be lucky if CA seceded. Your sensible comments make me sorry that I posted that. Of course there are many sensible people in CA who wouldn’t support that move. I hope you and the other non-crazy Californians are able to stop this stupidity. What’s needed is just what you said — more constructive conservatives and more of their ideas to reform the lefty lunatics.
And I regret my poorly thought out comment that we’d be lucky if you seceded.
Not to worry your comment is more than likely how a lot of people might see Californians and I totally get it. I truly believe that a lot of Californians have had enough of all this bizarre and just full blown crazies. Election will come and I’ll do all I can to help get California back from the liberals. The time has come . Thanks so much for your comment God bless America
Dianne,girl move your family South,we would welcome a good Conservative family with common sense! Leave those whiny Liberal snowflakes behind!! Let them live in their Soddam and Gomarah!
Thanks but I can’t run away without a good fight against these lunatics called liberals . Thanks for the offer God bless America
You got it right Hollywood is your biggest problem.
You got that right Hollywood is Californians cancer but our times coming to stand up to these crazies. They are a bunch of weirdos with no message but just plain hatred for our president after all they wanted Hillary and they lost and are not used to not getting their way . They spent a lot of money on her and still lost . They are so mean spirited if you disagree with them they start their bullying . It’s like they expect everyone to follow their lead because they believe their that important . I believe they have embarrassed a lot of Californians by their behavior and not accepting the outcome and a lot of us have had enough of Hollywood lunatics and elections will be coming and we’re taking California back for the people. Thanks for your comment God bless America
By sending the illegals back to their homeland most problems would go away except for BLM
I keep hearing that the northern half of California or even more than half are conservatives. That the illegals and liberals are all in the south and that nothing can be done. I live in a formerly “blue state” primarily because of a similar situation. Two or three of the largest cities are liberal hell holes and the rest of the state even though they are not liberals “just don’t bother to vote”. Starting in 2015 our state was inundated with conservative groups running campaign ads and visiting the northern part of our state. Groups like the NRA held Gun Shows and meetings with rural residents, especially farmers who always seem too busy to turn out to vote. Well we are not a “red state” because Trump won our electoral votes. You conservatives in California need to get on the stick and start fighting back. In our state it was a massive “get out the vote program” in the whole state but really focused on the parts of the state that “just didn’t bother”. It’s is a lot of work but start contacting conservative organizations like the NRA and Citizens United etc. for help. But you need to start getting far more involved right now. The rest of the country only hears how sick California is that they expect it to automatically go democrat. We in my state were really pissed because we knew there were far more conservatives than were actually voting. You need to get pissed too.
Jerry Brown went against the California voters during the Charles Manson crime spree by eliminating Capital punishment and over 70% of the voters opposed him ( Calif taxpayers has been supporting this scumbag for forty+ yrs) yet the loons elected him back into office and he encouraged illegals to vote and is harboring illegals ( sanctuary city) against the wishes of 80 % of the Calif population. When do the people of California stand up against his self serving actions demanding his removal?? I hope President Trump sends a US marshal to Calif and arrests him for Obstruction of justice and possibly Sedition/Treason. These actions cannot be allowed and no way can any state be allowed to be removed from our union– it’s a major threat to our Natl Security!
I am so sorry for you!! Gosh, bless your heart. I welcome you to my good state of Tennessee. It may be time to move if you can if they do it. We would welcome you with open arms and try our best to help you anyway we could. I am praying for you! God bless you!!!
I left 16 years ago because the Feds were corrupt! It may be too late to save the UNION! I lived in Costa Rica and now Panama! Let it happen,. Cut off all money to California, Sanctuary cities, and illegals! and see what happens then. I am retired USN, Clinton got a government scholarship and went to Russia to talk bad about my Country when I was drafted in 1965 and proud of my country but the liberalism has been put in Place by the same Clinton, Bush, father and son, and then OBAMA! The feds sold us out and now the stupid Public school graduates in California .Go getem TRUMP! are simply crying for more welfare
Dianne, with all the leftists there and hate they spew towards conservatives, I pity those still there. Socal is my roots, but has become of California I shutter at.
Yes the lunatics also known as liberals . Hollywood last nite at the sag awards spew so much hate of course I did not watch saw some clips in the news. They sure like getting and giving each other awards I don’t watch any of these award shows . Hollywood has become the cancer here in California . What is the liberals and Hollywoods message your right hate. Hate for Americans who disagree with them and hate for our president that won fair and square as for the popular vote not really sure of that . All the illegals here and pretty sure most of them voted it’s to easy here to vote. But election coming here and I am going to do all I can to put some conservatives in office and vote NO on calexit there’s a lot of Californians that have had enough of the crazies so hopefully we shall prevail god bless America
Exactly!! I live here as well!!! No way am I seceding ..this is absolutely ludicrous!! Why do the morons always open their mouths here!! They’re an embarrassment to most of us Californians. This is so stupid and a worthless waste of time.
You are so right but the liberals here have been getting away with their bad behavior for to long. Time for all of us to stand up to the crazies and put some conservatives in our government starting with the governor. Election coming we can make a real change for the good of our state. I find it laughable at how stupid and embarrassing the liberals here are especially Hollywood what a big farce they are . The sad part is they have no message but hate hate for all who don’t agree with them but such hate for our president they never even tried to give him a chance all they see is hate. See you in Two years Gloria the elections I know I am going to do all I can to get California on a healthier and patriotic road god bless America
With you all the way Diane. I sure hope Trump gets rid of the NO VOTER ID..that’s why we keep getting the libtards in office. The Dems keep voting themselves in. They cheat big time!!! Long ago we were red. Also long ago, the Dems took CA for their own and think they own us now. I worked on the Trump campaign. I’ve already gotten word to him to look into this. I’ve asked him to change our voting laws where all people in all states must show their ID ..enough is enough with the OBAMA lawlessness of illegals, the deceased, people voting multiple times..and a whole slew of other problems that come along with NO VOTER ID. WE THE PEOPLE know Trump took this state..subtract all of what i mentioned, he won the popular vote by a landslide here. They are investigating into this and you will see..together with other states that had the same problem, Trump will have won it by 5-6 million. I’m a fighter fir our Constitution from way back. We will stick together and and fight against the filth that has taken over parts of this fine state!!! God bless America and God bless people like you who are willing to fight and be heard in this state.
Yes you go girl it was gonna take a man like Trump to make these changes for our country. He’s not the politician and doesn’t give the flowery speeches but he’s a man of his word and knows how to get things done. He is a godsend who else could handle all the incoming that he and his family have to put up with that’s ashame . Some of the media are as crazy as these liberals . My husband worked on the trump campaign also on the phones we put our trump sign in the front yard didn’t have any problems . I said in the very beginning that Trump was a breath of fresh air and anybody could shake up Washington and these politicians it would be him actually he could give a rip as long as he gets things done and keeps his promises to the American people and the best part is he doesn’t owe anybody and he’s not bought yep he’s his own man and the First Lady is very classy and regal she’s as cute as a button .but hopefully this voter thing will get handled so California can have a honest voting process . I do believe we can get some conservatives in California we’ll have a fighting chance it’s time to shake up California. God bless California and this great country of ours
Thank you Diane…with you and I together with all the other fellow conservatives here, the Dems have a huge fight on their hands. We gotta stick together and stay strong!! No way will CA secede!! UNITED WE STAND!!! God bless America and God bless CA. Trump will help us. He will not stand for this. God bless that man. Thank God he won!!! God is definitely with us!!!
I’m with you all the way . I wii be strong against the liberals because the first thing. they do is start calling you all kinds of names but that doesn’t bother me I know the truth. Then it’s the bullying and It just makes me want to dig my feet in deeper . I live here in California and pay my taxes and have every right to my opinion and can vote the way I see fit. So let our journey begin I refuse to give in to their brain dead craziness. God bless all Americans and America and our president. Freedom Lives
To HE LL WITH THE DEMSUCKERS!!! We have every right to voice our opinion which happens to be absolutely correct!! If they don’t like it they can put it where the sun doesn’t shine! I’m with you all the way..I’m never giving into their braindead ideologies!!! They got another thing coming!
Your only hope is to work in groups as they work in groups. They buy their patriots , You will have to be the patriot. It’s a personnel commitment but other than laying down and die
better get out fast before Trump decides to build a wall around that circus too.
I feel bad for all conservatives/non liberal/ common sense thinking people who live in CA,if you can leave, you probably should get out while you can, bc they’re headed in a terrible direction! If the liberals &the rest of the country were allowed to vote on “Calexit” i think they’d all agree to separate it from the rest of US bc Hollywood, socialist, feminist etc…are like a cancer..spreading ththroughout..so glad for Trump!!
Bull shit! California did not become prosperous by being religious and conservative. It’s a load of dung that illegals are voting, where’s your proof?
There’s a good reason for keeping republicans out. Nobody wants conservatives with their repressive mentality dictating to people who cherish freedom. Republicans are so unit-union that’s the reason the working class are Americas working poor today. Keep your damn conservatism out of California. Move to TX. OK. TN. middle of the country or the south you’d be much happier there.
California is not prosperous and there are a lot of conservatives here they don’t speak out to much because the liberals go crazy and start calling them names and just outright bully them. Yes there is voter fraud and there is a expert on elections Jesse Richman who says he can prove voter fraud and California was one of his examples that has a lot of illegals voting ., check it out. Conservatives are not dictators it’s the liberals that want to control everything they want big government so they can tell us what school to send our kids to , and what health plan we need and if we don’t your fined that’s not freedom . The government shouldn’t be making decisions for me you have it backwards . I respect your opinion but I agree to disagree. It’s people like you make me dig my feet in deeper because I honestly don’t care what you call me I know the truth and bullies never prosper so carry on with your hate but Freedom Lives and we’re coming back us conservatives just not gonna take it but god bless you and god bless America
If you don’t believe CA. is prosperous you need to see the states with pockets of poverty levels that would shock you. And mind you these are states run by republicans. These are the people whose mantra is small gov. low taxes etc. etc. It’s nuts these pukes care only about themselves and their rich friends. In none of these states have republicans ever eliminated needless agencies or depts.
How can you live in CA. and utter such nonsense. I have worked in CA. and in some southern states run by republicans, where workers rights have been stripped to the point they are almost non existent, unions are negligible and hated by republicans ( they interfere with business ) they can’t have that. Therefore wages are low.
Ca. Secretary of State Alex Padilla hasn’t uncovered any such voter fraud and hasn’t reported any. He would be the person I’d listen to.
Seems like republicans of today occupy their time digging up dirt wherever they think they can. So I wouldn’t put too much credence to what they say.
What do you call the people who want to do away with a woman’s right to choose hint: they are not liberals.
Helping out Americans who have lost healthcare is hardly dictating. Insurance companies were out of control denying coverage to people with existing conditions, students under 26 yrs. can now be covered under their parents ins. We pay more for health care than any other industrialized nation and we don’t get much for it. Sick people without ins. go to the emergency they don’t pay, the hospitals have to be paid who do you think picks up that tab ,why it’s we the taxpayers and you think that’s fair to me I pay those taxes. I can keep going but I hope you understand where I’m coming from with this.
You can disagree all you want but you’re still on the wrong side of this issue as I said Ins. companies were out of control who else but gov. can step in and help the average American who finds themselves at their mercy. Count your blessings lady.
The obvious thing to do is leave. I did and it worked out very well.
I feel for you living in that beautiful state run by loons!
I love your attitude, Dianne. (See my post above.) I do mourn the direction the state has taken since I left back in ’61. When I left Mendocino County for the military, after graduating high school, the main industries in our county were fishing and logging. Four years later the largest money-making crop was marijuana. And the state has gone downhill from there.
You have my sympathy and my prayers.
Trump is trying to find the illegal voters, and if he succeeds, you can wipe out half of California voters. The Mexicans are on their way to take California, a s they stated years ago, that this was “their” country.
Did you say “so many illegals are voting”?
President Trump got negative press for stating this from the leftist media.
Dianne, you have it tough as a voice of reason in a land of fruits and nuts.
Dianne, I feel sorry for the, ‘good’ people of California, but because of obummer allowing millions of ILLEGALS into our country, bad things are happening by ILLEGALS in every community all over the country. For the ‘good’ people of California, you have too many ILLEGALS and too many politicians who love and want ILLEGALS there.. Sorry, to say, I don’t know what you are going to do.
If Ca. secedes from the union where will all the money come from to run this crazy unionized state? Who`s going to fund our welfare?, Pay oversized union pensions?, We are breaking our farmers, and running our business out of the state with over regulation! I guess we will just have to raise our taxes so high we loose our homes. Will the last person leaving the state, Please turn out the Lights?…..THANKSALOT!!!!!
I am not clear about what would happen to those citizens who are not in favor of this action…. What happens if it succeeds?
This would be funny cause where will California get the money to pay public sector pensions if most Cities are broke ? Where would they get the money to pay over paid teachers who basically teach common core and communism ? With no federal funds to their school will teacher teach for $15 an hour with no benefits ? The Police Departments will be as corrupt as Mexico because the Cities will no longer be able to pay them $100’000 a year Cops make and they can kiss their 90% pay of their pension pay
“America already hates California, and America votes on emotions,” he said. “I think we’d have the votes today if we held it.”
Then by all means, let’s hold the vote today–what are we waiting for? Any chance we can get rid of California by the end of the week?
And we can extend that immigration ban to the Country of California.
Give it a couple of months before it becomes fully effective, though. Otherwise the decent people who wanted nothing to do with it will be stuck.
I live in California and absolutely hate what the liberals have done to this beautiful place. There are a lot of good, conservative people in California. But we are outnumbered by the brain-dead city zombies in SF & LA. The people who are promoting this idea are dumb as posts! I heard one of the leaders being interviewed and when he was asked what the “Country of California” would do for defense, his comment was that it was not necessary. Dummy! It would take Mexico 10 minutes to decide to “take back” this state. Any sane, reasonable people will bail(including me and my family!). Companies would be out of here, as well. Who would support the illegal aliens that are receiving subsidized housing, food stamps & welfare?
Stupid, stupid idea proposed by a bunch of morons. Even Gov. Moonbeam probably does not support this.
The gov does support this. He was for it last time he was gov, too. As you said, the morons don’t seem to know southern calif gets its water from other states. After prop 60 passed last Nov, 200+ business heads went & cked other states to move business to. That prop shot up expenses in running a business here. More unemployment, homelessness. Welfare? How if a separate country? Calif broke, but they tell you different. Schools suck. The list goes on & on.
If California became its own country . Then the US has a problem. We have a foreign country on our shores that has no clue that they will need defense.Some other country can come in and take them with out a shot . Boom we have a hostile foreign country on our shores.
Already do China owns over half of their ass already!!!!!!
THART would not be allowed by the U.S.
Hope not! Thanks for serving
Thank you!
All you stupid Californians that want to leave had best check the debit this state is holding.
It would be cheaper to remove the two leaders at the top and stop all this BS
Cali, when you go, please take NY with you.
California truly is the land of “nuts and fruits!” The state is broke now, wait til all the federal funding for their nonsense goes away. Let’s see if all the Hollywood liberal actors and actresses bail them out. Better yet they can have Ashley Judd, Madonna, Julianne Moore or Alec Baldwin be their president
Ashley Judd….UGH!!!
I feel left out, here in Colorado. I want to be able to sign the petition for California to leave!
I’m sure they’ll let you sign it anyway, because they want it bad enough.
You will just be one more illegal voter. They are OK with that.
Me TOO!! Me too!!
Hey just thought of one more benefit that’s another state the Democrats won’t win when they can no longer vote as part of the United States
Oh snap, Hillary can be their president. They can have their first woman president.
Well, there may be a fight…OWEbama has bought an empire in Palm Springs, CA, I believe…he and KILLary might fight over who would be DICTATOR.
Maybe we’d get lucky and one or the other would die in the fight!
I think it’s a good idea. All of the liberals can move there, and they can live in their utopian society. After they totally go bankrupt we don’t let them back in ever.
At Gods timing California will fall off the continent into the lake of fire. Amen
That state is in trouble because they kept voting in these lamebrain democrats like Piglosi, Boxer, Waters, and the list goes on. Doesn’t help having Moonbeam Brown, a guy who was born with silver spoon in his mouth, knows nothing of the world. “Californian bubble”, there is a title for a song. LOL
Californians keep on proving how stup!d they are. As soon as they secede from the union, Trump will pull out all federal resources. Mexican arm-forces can just move in and take over, all they will have is police to protect them. Didn’t they ban guns in California? I guess they will be part of Mexico then. LOL
Then California would have to pay for a wall along it’s east and north borders. This alone would put this state into poverty.
Knowing how “brilliant” the liberals, stars and illegals are, they would probably build a wall on their WEST border.
They ARE ALREADY about dead broke!
Go ahead and exit the United States. Then when all the other states cut off your water supply what are you going to do. They cry no water, but if you drive up route 99 you will see them watering the grass beside the road. What a bunch of morons.
Well let’s turn that around, California hates America, And California votes on emotions probably more than any other state. Let ’em go, and make them pay for the border fence we will be building to keep them out of America. Best get all your friends in there, all flights will stop and the fence will be well guarded and impenetrable.
Best news I heard yet. Now if it could only disconnect and become an island …………..
I would agree in a heartbeat to let them leave, with the understanding that they can never become a part of the US again and liberals can never move to any US state.
There are that many signers in Hollywood alone, counting of course the wannabes.
The one that own villas in other countries, so then when the quake comes that is said to be the one that wipes California off their own map, will not be the United states problem right.
There is already a community on the border where these loons could get the new name for their country, or state since it would become the new state of Mexico, its called Calexico.
go go go
Oh Well! I am living here in California at the moment coming from Texas. It’s a very desolated area where I live and very peaceful but is this was to happen, HHMM I would immediately remove my family from here and go back to Texas in a hurry! Just waiting to see what really happens!
Chris, you could always come to FL…we love Conservatives.
I think California seceding from the other 49 states is a great idea. I would be in big favor of building the wall on the Northern and Eastern side of that New Country..
As a result of their succession the rest of America would decline any aircraft or any other transportation coming into the USA without passports for the new country’s citizens.
And I absolutely would not pay to see any movie made in that new country.
They leave the USA and they WILL NOT get a dime of my money.
We, the USA, also wouldn’t be sending money to the new country, that which was once California, they obviously don’t need us or our money.
I seriously hope they do sucede..
Hillary & Obama for pres. & vp of Mexifornica.
Under stupid Moonbeam govna, California has gone ballistic. The dimwit party is destroying this state.
Presumably, a California whose policies were incompatible with the interests of the remainder of the country would necessitate the building of a wall to keep people IN California. Were California a haven for illegals from Latin America, the flow of illegals from California into neighboring states or the rest of the country would be impossible to stop.
Assessing California’s share of the national debt, with negotiated terms of paying it off, would be another impediment to rapid secession. Were there an impasse, a declaration of war on California to clear out the liberal morons who have ruined it for the rest would, certainly, be a logical alternative. After all, it is their perspective on law which is incompatible with common sense.
Have a nice day. US deficit will drop immediately! Nothing I have to have from there. We can make movies in Fla. and NO immigration from there for 5 years.
Have at it! Take the southern tier of N.Y. State with you, so we “Northern N.Y’ers” could actually have a VOTING VOICE . (which has been STOLEN by the “LIBERAL” city dwellers.)
I am all for allowing the Californians leaving USA citizenship but they can not have the land this nation has protected and paid for. Start packing the country will gladly deport all Californians from our land. These people spend most of their lives in other countries already and wud just fly off to safety when the terrorists become to violent but working families can not do the same. I say pull these peoples citizenship they have not been committed to our country for years and only work to weaken our place in the world.
Have said for a long time – CA is in over their heads ethically, morally, & financially! Their debt is greater than their government can handle. Illegal immigration is their Trojan Horse! We can only hope that the majority of illegals will immigrate there when they secede! When the next big earthquake hits – lot’s of luck – see ya, wouldn’t wanna be ya!
Tell the Hollywood Crazies how you feel – stop patronizing their craft!
Man, the rest of the country should be so lucky (sigh!)
Go-take NY with you!
Now that’s the 1st wall to build and a 50% tax.
So they make their own money? Do they elect a president? My oh my. Wonder how they figure their tax rate. So much to think about. Would we need a Visa to visit. Would they change their name? Maybe their government would be run by who makes, or has the most money. They could appoint them selves as, King or, Queen. Soros could move there. Have his own country. Wow, where do we vote to to give them the O.K. Another question. …do those who want to leave become imigrants, or refugees?
It would be nice to get out of Donald cruel and illegal domain .
GO,you won’t be missed
Great, get rid of the money suckers!!! They are already how many hundreds of millions of dollars in the RED??
What is sad is it will never happen & if it does just another
Bunch of low life’s that the US will have to baby sit & furnish money for them to survive!!
where are they seceding to , mexico , they won’t give you the billions to pay for your ilegals and welfare crowd , like the fed , states are suppose to balance their budgets every year , instead they keep phony records piling up their debt , government creates the debt they should pay for it with out taxing people more, i i went out and charged a billion dollars , and sent the bills to my neighbor do you think they would pay it for me , no, so why should we have to pay for their waste, that’s why they continue to waste the money , it’s not their money and could care less about it
Well, I never thought I’d say this, but I agree with this effort, regardless of why! Please secede!! This is genius!
Do they think this is going to make us mad? This is the best news I’ve heard since Obama left office. God please, let them succeed in their succession.
Let them go but keep the ports and our bases
They want to leave? Fine, Trump could call China and Japan and have an auction. Sell California, it could be Trump’s biggest deal ever!
I don’t give a flying fuck. Let them leave the state of the union.
But once they leave. There is no turning back to be apart of these fifty UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
So we’ll only have fourty nine states.
I think there will be a clash between northern and southern CA before secession becomes the issue.
Always has been a clash between the two. Main reason it hasn’t separated…yet.
We can always hope! But I have a better idea! Give it back to Mexico.
And good goodbye, just remember California you will not get government aid if you secede. Think about it
Don’t come a crying back you losers.
Speaking of crying, can they take Chuckie Schumer with them even though he’s from NY or better yet, take NY with them? Then they can have both OWEbama and KILLary.
Good idea of course Trumps’ wall would have to include walling off Mexicali to keep the enemy state from climbing the wall & pollutng the 49 states of the USA. Eventually the illegals will automatically become citizens of Mexicali & more Mexicans will cross into Mexicali & there will be another petition circulated & a vote will be had to make Mexicali an full state of Mexico with a law that the new state will have to learn to speak Spanish. Hollywood will make movies with dubbed in English or English subtitles.
PLEASE!!!!!!!!! do it you wackos need your own country. WILL help you i will sign your petition GREAT IDEA. take the red woods gold and illegals with you WOW something great out of hollywood WHO would of thought
This would be the greatest thing to happen to this country since we kicked the Brits Red Coats out many years ago.
I wonder if we could petition Congress to let us have a national election so we could vote on that question? Have no doubt the super majority would vote for the land of fruits and nuts to secede…HOORAY. We should do it soon, so the wall can be built straight along CA’s eastern and northern coast.
Since this has a good chance of working and California has much military business, it would be fitting to remove this business ASAP! Also, a 35% tariff must be applied ASAP! Any silicon valley companies that want to avoid the tariff should relocate ASAP! Incentives to develop new silicon valley type businesses should begin ASAP! The Mexicans will take it over in time and that would be fine because it belonged to Mexico in the beginning. Good by!
Wall off California if they seceede. If they seceede, how much do you want to bet that Mexico takes over their fledgling country?
Just extend the fence. They can raise they’re own food or import it. When they make a movie, they will have to export it. They can’t vote, need a passport to visit the United States, won’t have our police, FBI, CIA or any other protection associated with us – including our military. Just to get rid of Alec Baldwin would make it worth it. Hey, I say go for it.
If California secedes, what will keep the more northern parts of California from seceding from California; you know, the part that provides the southern half with food and water?
They have wanted to do that ,for a long time.They already have the name picked out JERRERSON
Actually, many years ago I lived in California for one year, and not all of them are liberal flakes. I doubt very much if this beautiful state will secede. If it does, “Ciao, baby!”
Remember all the dismissing by the left when Texas was talking about doing that? I found that we now have a group of people who can talk out of both sides of their mouth. I think we need a “gender” identification for this “special” trait like IDIOT, STUPID or FOOL. This way everyone will know what they are when they check their identification card. Oh I forgot, that is unconstitutional because it identifies the new gender category.
Let them go! As long as they take their part of the national debt that they incurred. Other than solar and wind power (is that a result of all of the Lib-Tards that live there?), how are they going to meet the energy demands? What happens when another nation decides to invade the sovereign nation of Californicate? Bye! Don’t the the door hit you on the butt on your way out!
I thought California was already a part of Mexico. Wait until all those illegals vote one of their own in as governor and he allows Mexico to annex them. Maybe all those Muslims who are illegal should be sent to California so they can teach California morals. Then again the good folks might just rise up and throw the crooks out.
Yep they are right about that. I would let CA go for sure. the USA don’t need that state they have NO clue of what is going on anyhow but they are wrong about the wall cuz We the USA would need that wall longer cuz all the illegal’s that would go there & be accepted would then STILL want the apple of the USA & that is a BROKEN state of CA kinda the same as Mexico they both need the USA even 49 states. as long as they take what 20% of the debit that they created. if it had not been for CA Trump would have won by a way bigger margin & that’s one of the reasons I say enough is ENOUGH with that state, LET IT GO to the illegals but make sure our USA wall goes the full length of CA besides that it might some day need a wall there because it might become ocean. I’d build the wall like a DIKE just in case CA circomes to the OCEAN. I say cut CA off of the USA as soon as a tall DIKE style wall is built, just toss the keys over the wall to um, say one last goodbye & good ridding & be done with those IDIOTS in CA!!!!
This is a win-win situation and they have my vote to secede from the Union… Bring on the Calexit and make a lot of us real happy!!!
There are some very fine conservatives in California why do we not help them to take their state back just as we have taken our country back? Let Porto Rico go, not California.
Can l sign it too ???? Would make me feel like a real patriot. They could name the movement, “The Basin Tub and Tile Cleaner Act” cause it would rid this great nation of a bunch of scum, and ultimately help DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!!! However, the sociodemacoms wouldnt allow it cause that’s how they win the “popular” vote.
Fine, let them go. No federal money/aid, no federal bailout. The states bordering them will have a big problem on their hands. This is MORE proof of the insanity that has overtaken that state. Gov. Moonbean and his minions have laid the groundwork for this sort of nonsense. It’s sad that the liberals have brought California to this end. The conservatives that live there have no voice; the kool-aid soaked lunatics have gained control.
Yep they are right about that. I would let CA go for sure. the USA don’t need that state they have NO clue of what is going on anyhow but they are wrong about the wall cuz We the USA would need that wall longer cuz all the illegal’s that would go there & be accepted would then STILL want the apple of the USA & that is a BROKEN state of CA kinda the same as Mexico they both need the USA even 49 states. as long as they take what 20% of the debit that they created. if it had not been for CA Trump would have won by a way bigger margin & that’s one of the reasons I say enough is ENOUGH with that state, LET IT GO to the illegals but make sure our USA wall goes the full length of CA besides that it might some day need a wall there because it might become ocean. I’d build the wall like a DIKE just in case CA circomes to the OCEAN. I say cut CA off of the USA as soon as a tall DIKE style wall is built, just toss the keys over the wall to um, say one last goodbye & good ridding & be done with those IDIOTS in CA!!!!
Yep they are right about that. I would let CA go for sure. the USA don’t need that state they have NO clue of what is going on anyhow but they are wrong about the wall cuz We the USA would need that wall longer cuz all the illegal’s that would go there & be accepted would then STILL want the apple of the USA & that is a BROKEN state of CA kinda the same as Mexico they both need the USA even 49 states. as long as they take what 20% of the debit that they created. if it had not been for CA Trump would have won by a way bigger margin & that’s one of the reasons I say enough is ENOUGH with that state, LET IT GO to the illegals but make sure our USA wall goes the full length of CA besides that it might some day need a wall there because it might become ocean. I’d build the wall like a DIKE just in case CA circomes to the OCEAN. I say cut CA off of the USA as soon as a tall DIKE style wall is built, just toss the keys over the wall to um, say one last goodbye & good ridding & be done with those IDIOTS in CA!!!!
Not a bad idea if planned properly; 1st, the eastern section of California should secede from the western section of the state to remain the sole State of California; and then, to eliminate any confusion between the State and the Country, rename the new country “Purgatory.”
Oh, goodie. Now we can get rid of Commiewood once and for all. Maybe they can officially join Communist China, since that is who owns most of California now. It goes without saying that the protest(s) and effort here is fueled by the Commies. Bye bye.
Good they can be Mexicans now
Not a bad idea after all, send all terrists and border crossers to cal. And Evan all the ones here illeagally that would like to go and supply the planes to get them there. Great idea lets go for it no more democrates in public office, maybe we could get Hillary Clinton and Obama to agree to go there also and agree to not come back. Build a wall around cal. To keep out the free loaders so no one could come back to the good ol USA.
Spelled even wrong got in a hurry. Sorry
Yes, it is a sad day for California. I feel for you loyal Patriots. The big problem is the SATANIC CULT that encompasses 80% of LA’s SCREEN ACTORS GUILD. Yes, it is true 80% of the ACTORS have sold their souls to the DEVIL, the same as many of your POLITICIANS also. That is why TRUMP has been saying he “NEEDS TO DRAIN THE SWAMP”. I know you do not want to believe it but it is true. It’s not something new. It has been going on for at least 60 years but has recently been inundated with a major, major surge of new members in the last ten years. THE CLINTONS, PODESTAS & OBAMAS and GEORGE SOROS are some of your well known POLITICOS that belong to the DEVIL. They all are involved in PEDOPHILIA & are the main reason CALIFORNIA just this month has passed a new LAW , LEGALIZING MINOR PROSTITUTION with 9 year old girls & boys & up & that is also the reason that CALIFORNIA has a new LAW set for LAWFUL HEARING to make PEDOPHILIA LAWFUL, also. End times must be near for the UGLY DEVIL to have taken over so strongly as of late. The DEMS have the same AGENDA they used against TRUMP & the same AGENDA they’ve been using against Black People for decades. They promise everything you want to hear & give NOTHING. Do you remember the last time your CANDIDATE made good on the campaign promises that got him or her elected????. Finally, we have a PRESIDENT that is doing just that. In just his first week he has already fulfilled 6 promises that were tops on his list. I am so very much impressed & overwhelmed by his dedication & love for AMERICA & the AMERICAN PEOPLE that after all my life of being born to & Being raised in a staunch DEMOCRATIC family I have become a registered REPUBLICAN. TRUMP has been persecuted , cajoled & demonstrasized every day since he chose to run for the Presidency.
America will need a much longer wall along California , since the socialist liberals will allow in the muslims & sharia law to over-run them , raping , killing , destroying all they have built ; and easier access to America , like Mexico now.
I was born & raised in Calif. After 36 years there, I have been a happy Oregonian for the last 23 yrs. These morons have obviously left, without malice of forethought, many things that just might come up! Would they have places like San Diego Naval shipyard move to Arizona? & there are many other military installations in that state that I’m reasonably sure our Fed. gov’t. wouldn’t just gift the nation of Calif to give them a head start! Then there are the beautiful national parks in that state! (My vote says Oregon would be happy to take the Redwoods off their hands.) If Calif. is working on their deficit now, what would happen when all Fed. funding was suddenly gone? Raise the taxes? They are taxed to death now! If nothing else, this will be an amusing couple of years watching these foks give this ridiculous idea a try!
Northern Calif,wants to become their own State of JEFFERSON ,Great idea
let the looney libs and the hollywood weirdos have it,but move ALL MILITARY BASES SOMEWHERE ELSE
what are they going to call them selves when they are no longer AMERICANS.
I hate to say it but right now I am all for California’s sucession from the union even though it is true California grows 50% of the vegetables & fruits that America uses but California is short on water & have several WATER PERMITS & ALLOCATIONS with other States & the Federal Government I would like to see them dicker with TRUMP about, not to mention the Federal aid they receive & of course they could impose higher prices for exporting but then the US can impose higher prices for importation. Bluntly speaking, the US holds the TRUMP CARDS. Then also, California has become the States strongest backer for illegal aliens & refugees. The Muslims have infiltrated town, city, State & Federal Governments. Stupid America even Elected a Muslem Radical & Illegal Alien as our President. Don’t look now but the DEMS have an exact OBAMA PUPPET set to take his place with all of his qualifications in the next elections. They have an AGENDA that is scary with their goal the same to win the Presidency, destroy AMERICA along with the CONSTITUTION & fall in line with GEORGE SOROS”S AGENDA of the NWO.. SOROS is WORLD ENEMY #1, sided with the NAZI”S IN WW II & sold out his fellow JEWS for extermination. He is a WAR CRIMINAL of epic proportions. History shows us that OBAMA was one of the 3 worst RACIST”S in our History & TRUMP as a life businessman is an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER with EQUQL PAY for women unlike OBAMA, etc. LOOK at your History. The DEMS are using the IMMIGRANTS the same as they have mistreated African Americans. They need them to vote because AMERICANS have caught on to their game & TRUMP is fixing the voting system to be fair & impartial so they are going to flood America with any & all the Immigrants they can muster. MSM is “FAKE NEWS”, watch youTube for both sides of the story, it is the best source right now.
Good ? secede you people are loons.
I live in Califoria and have for about 65 years. It used to be the best place in the world to live. Now due to illegals and DEMONcraps our state has gone to hell in a hand basket. I don’t want this calexit stupid idea….I will be moving out to somewhere that is a decent place to live.
Just think—–a new country:
USSR-C
United Senseless Socialist Republic – California
California is dictated by the same election fraud that put Islamobama in office for 8 years. I left CA in 2015. July 4th to be exact. I couldn’t be happier.
I will never set doot in that cess pool again. My friends there, are reporting a rise in home invasions that the police can not keep up with. I left for a state that is swelling with people exiting CA. We should force their exit and build the wall to keep them out of them rest of the country. Let Hoywood pay for thier own wall. Cut of all
Federal funding and let the swells of welfare recepients try and pay the politicians over bloated salaries. Get rid of all liberals. The country would be better off!
hurry up and go already. just remember that there will be no money for you after you are gone. the rest of the States will not pay California any alimony after the divorce.
LET’S HOPE THE LAND OF ILLEGALS AND FAGGOTS, INTERTWINED WITH PHONIES DO LEAVE US. THIS WOULD BE PUT THEM INTO STARVATION AND PENNILESS. 🙂 MOST WOULD DIE WITHOUT FREE HEALTHCARE.
RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Secede and see if these so called celebrities help you then.
We are all Americans. We really need to think about this…..which I don’t think many have done. It is simply “Sour Grapes” – sorry to be repetitive….but I’m so sick of hearing such childish and foolish talk. Instead of cutting off the cancer (CA liberals) we should try to do what Dianne suggests…help them to see the error of their ways and maybe CA needs a nice influx of conservatives to move there. I love CA – I have relatives who live there also, who I am sure would not like to be a nation unto themselves.
Perfect Solution! I live in this hell hole… California has become an unbearable mess due to its liberal idiots in Sacramento and in EVERY local jurisdiction. The loonies have completely taken over this once great state to the point it is completely unrecognizable. I grew up here in the 60’s and 70’s, moved to Colorado for a number of years and then came back to a state (CA) that was no longer recognizable. The roads are in complete disrepair, the schools are falling apart and failing, the taxes are the highest in the nation and the state and local governments are completely out of control! The state of California has become the antithesis of what America was founded on and is more of a Socialist country in itself rather than a member state of the United States of America. I am already planning on moving out of this ridiculous state in favor of a more “FREE and LIBERTY loving area”… This will seal the deal!
One would think that you could see what’s happening in California and know that socialism isn’t working, has never worked, and never will work. It takes a special group of idiots to believe that it will. I feel sorry for the people that have to live with these clowns. You have our deepest sympathy.
Go for it. The sooner you insane perverts are out of the union the better. The only good thing in California is the San Andreas fault and that would be an extremely effective way to get this sewer state out of the union.
I feel sorry for conservatives trapped in the People’s Republik of Kalifornya-nyet. However, I am looking forward to seeing Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, and Maxine Waters leave the U.S. Congress without replacement and the Democrats lose their biggest blue State.
Liberals have officially lost their minds. As a country unto it’s self, California would have to create an entire new infrastructure. The tax base would be out of this world even by California standards. Silicon valley and farming(which California water restrictions almost destroyed),are their only means of income.. oh and Hollywood. They would have to import every thing ,cause California is built on sand, Every thing would have to come by boat,rail(another big problem) and by trucks,(passports border fees etc.). There would be no more federal $$$ either. Lots to think about for Gov Brown and the rest of the California wackos.
You let the Leftist crap fester and grow, now you’re reaping the results. YOU do something about it.
End of rant.
Build the wall around California and shoot anyone trying to enter the US then. We don’t need them. Cut them off.
Let them go and throw in New York, both states can’t balance a budget now so all welfare and other support would stop and they would both be broke owing the other 55 states money when they would leave. I know only 48 being sarcastic.
Please dear LORD make it happen i will pray daily for this to happen. The DEVIL lives in this state lets get rid of him NOW!!!!!
This is another scare tactic of the liberal left… threatened succession. I say let them go, but the United States should allow a short time period for those who wish to defect to the country they love and resettle in another state and revoke U.S. citizenship for those who choose to stay. Then Trump should build a “YOOJ” wall between California and the rest of us. It’s time that those on the left had a test case in trying to support their own without the help of the rest of us. California is a good place because Hollywood has the financial resources to provide for the necessary entitlement programs they will be expected to continue. Maybe NYC will be next, with that comes the bonus of disassociating with the U.N. who’s globalist agenda is in contrast with much of conservative America.
*YAWN* Bring on the next “dog and pony show”.
They are losing their power to influence now like the babies they are, they’re throwing a tantrum I say this time give it to them and good riddance. CAlifornia has always been a pain in the a_ _.
Hey, California was suppose to drop off into the ocean some time ago. I said it then as I say it now……YOU WON”T BE MISSED!!!
California is like France. It would be wonderful if it were not for the people who live there.
The Reconquistas are behind this BS. LaRaza wants to give the Southwest back to Mexico. Get rid of the illegals in Los Angeles and your problems are solved. They have to go back!
We would need to extend the wall along the perimeter of CA to prevent the libtards and Hollywood from sneaking into the US.
But, I’m confident we would make CA pay for it!
Mexico has always said that they want their country back that the united states took from them. California would be the start of their goal. The illegals and legal Mexicans would vote in other Mexicans and they would take over and bye bye California.
Northern CA already has an effort underway to secede from the state and form their own US state, which I think is the best way forward.
SCA forces the farmers in the north to divert much needed water for growing crops to the south, to provide drinking water to the overcrowded cities.
I think the Trumpster should have his people hook up with the NCA’ers and assist them in seceding from the SCA crazies.
Next, sieze the ports that we need for a safe and expeditious flow of goods to and from the pacific regions and from western SA, and sieze the I80 corridor out of Oakland.
Next, wall in the southern regions, denying them access to anything US without trade negotiations etc.
NCA can then cut off all water supplies provided to the crooked, corrupt south and use it for the betterment of all Americans, in watering fertile farmland, vineyards and livestock. That way NCA can continue to be the breadbasket of the US, and can become more prosperous in the process. Crime will be localized to the southern cities.
Next the US should sieze a border corridor a few miles wide so that we can control border access and maintain a southern port.
This would leave SCA with the port of LA, LAX and the mass population of illegals. The progressives can continue to build upon their progressive plantation, until it implodes like Detroit. Then when it all collapses and everyone leaves, we can go back in, take it over, clean it up and turn it back into something useful to the country.
In short, let the sick twisted SCA freaks experience the full weight of the consequences of their own wickedness and insanity, without any props from outside their utopian nightmare land.
It will only take a couple of years (at most) to implode.
Problem solved.
I tell you what they want to play this game we win you lose stop all traffic come across the boarder from California second shut down all water to California this a lone would hurt the hell out of the especially there water they depend on water from out side there state for there pollution
The sooner California secedes the better. And keep all of the Hollywood rejects too! They will not be missed. They will keep living in their make believe world living in their fenced off neighborhoods and their armed guards.Wait till one of your own kin or you get raped, beaten, or killed by one of these people,you will be running around yelling for justice! Good luck to all of you in Cali. Hope and pray you get your way cause you will be doing the USA a favor.
first split California into two states, north and south, in reality northern Ca is more like the rest of the US than southern, let southern Ca leave, and then extend the wall around it.
If the reported? 1/3 of the population of california want to exit America does that mean that 2/3 of those do not want to leave? If so why do those 1/3 of the state think that they have the right to decide for the majority? And do the millions of illegals in the state get to vote? Perhaps those illegals would vote to join mexico…
Good Bye!!! However you must take all your idiotic politician with you and you must surrender your Passports! Attention President Trump one more nation to include in your ban, this one with a permanent ban against ANY visitation whatsoever!
I for one am sick and tired of Californians fouling their own nests and then abandoning it to carry their foul ideology someplace else and begin the process all over again! Their filth has infested, and destroyed Organ, Washington Nevada, and Colorado, and is well on the way to do the same to Arizona, and New Mexico!
Don’t forget AK – They’ve turned that into a progressive plantation too… sigh…
We will let California secede. The state operates as a loss, the rest of America is needed to fund California. As soon as they go broke, we’ll come take it away from them. As a small country, we could and would invade it anytime we wanted anyway. It would forever be in a civil war.
The answer is to get rid of the baldhead and his cronies now–recall —-did it to Gray Davis? !!Or Ca will become NORTH MEXICO with a drug lords a plenty
The state is already in financial doldrums. Their finances are shot and would become worse if they had to stand on their own. They would be better off shipping their problem children, off to never never land. The trouble is that no one would take them in.
If California voted to leave they would have to build a wall to keep Americans in and to Keep the Mexican Narco’s out.
The FBI, The DEA, The EPA, and any and all other Federal Agencies would have to shut down and California would have to suddenly replace them and write new laws and/or purchase their properties and assets at a premium? Or would California nationalize everything like a communist country/ Imagine the new Government of California Nationalizing the US Federal Military bases in California.. Would California deputize MS 13 to disarm the US troops? .
California’s tax rate would what – go to 50% of income to finance the debacle. What would they pay with? Pesos???
This secession petition seem more the product of MJ addled thinking and the desires of Mexican organized crime hand in hand with California’s legendary political correctness aka corruption.
HEY ITS FINE WIT;H ME IF CALIF GOES ON THEIR OWN. BUT TELL ME ONE QUESTION ??? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SUPPLY YOUR OWN POWER PLANT TO MAKE YOUR OWN ELECTRICITY— HOW.????
Another dumb ass Liberal inspired poorly thought out and thought through idea….you might recall the BULLET TRAIN???One should question who is behind this stupidity and what do they stand to gain….even just the initial costs will make someone, or some group, very well paid for their efforts.
Is CA really as dumb and poorly led as the rest of this Country believes.? We are the laughing stock of ALL THE STATES and no matter what we say, it is dismissed and laughed at as having come from the land of fruits and nuts….REALLY??? Please folks, show some common sense and just a bit of class and intelligence…..PLEASE !!!
California might secede?????
NO….. We’ll never get THAT LUCKY.
Half of California will fall in ocean one day.
I thank all of you for your great comments. It truly appreciate all of them . First I do not hate California as someone suggested I love California and I refuse to give up on California and just move. I really believe If we get a republican in as our next governor and some of the conservatives here in California stand up to these insane liberals things could get better . It’s hard for some conservatives here as they get harassed and blackballed it’s really disgusting. Then you have the brain dead Hollywood lunatics but I honestly believe when the time comes especially liberals trying to succeed from the United States that the conservatives here have had enough and for me I will help and continue to help California against all these whiny crazy liberals not to make light of it but when you live here and see it first hand it’s so funny and comical. They’re like small children who didn’t get their way and are throwing temper tantrums screaming I want thisssssss waaaaaa nowwwww when their done crying screaming they retreat to their safe spaces honestly it’s just disgusting but I am going to do everything I can to oppose this silliness god bless you all and god bless our America
SO I guess we will leave our Military bases in place in the new foreign territory. We will require that California pay it’s own way; and leave them with their debt. No more Federal funds from USA will be sent. We will also implement a tariff on all goods from California. This just the start. Of course , California will require it’s own currency–that should be “real” valuable–WHAT ARE THESE WHINING LIBERALS MORONS THINKING???
There’s only one thing that could please me more than California going away and that has already happened. We voted for a REAL president and we got him. California, don’t let the door hit you in the ass when you leave.
You know what, The United States Government will have the last say so on California wanting to Secede from the Union. Look at what happened in the Civil War when the Southern States wanted to Secede. Also how would Calif. pay the Dollar $$$ Balance that the US Goverment pays to keep Calif. Going. OHH HOLLYWOOD and THE ILL EAGLES would pay.. I SEE. Get a grip LEFTY’S and Liberals. Wait, I can see, Hillary as president Now I get it.
BOBBY ~!~.
Let them succeed from the United States and see how long it takes them to dry up like a prune from lack of water and other resourses. Texas will have a heck of a better chance and they aren’t
I think it a great Idea but it would never happen because in 2019 they will all want to support what ever whiner the DemocRATS run for office in 2020 so why waste the time and money filing petitions. But just think if they voted on it next year and secede from the US the American tax payer would save millions.
Californians can you support all the aliens parents? I lived there 35-40 years and saw working Koreans putting their parents on welfare after two years of being here. I saw a state with a Repub Governor and two Repub senators change to a socialist state. I grew to hate all the trafic. And Georgia Gibbs, etc nine times, moved the Rams to St Louis.
I personally hope that the secession is successful. Then all of Hollywood would need a Visa to travel to the USA and to visit their second favorite liberal bastion – New York. Then President Trump should include California in the Extreme vetting process. All the big money people in CA will exit and CA will be left with illegal moochers and Hollywood. Lots of luck with that.
“America votes on their emotions”?
Well…that explains a lot.
Good luck California. I don’t blame you.
You can always join them
Hip, hip horay. Get rid of Gov Brown, Botoxie Pelosi and the likes of Diane Feinstein and I’ll believe in patriotic Calafornians, less all biovating libtard twists that maje up Hollywood.
Can i sign too.i really want to help them on their way. ,but make sure they have to stay in that Mexican Chinese
cess pool,but the MILITARY BASES MOVE OUT> the people above Sacramento NORTHERN CALIF
want to have their own STATE of JEFFERSON
Dont let then secede.
maybe the earthquake will separate them, like the movie Escape From LA.
Wishful thinking but not happening…
“California loses [by] being a part of America culturally and financially,” said Evans. “It could be a nation all its own, everybody knows that. The only question is if they want to break off.” Is this guy an idiot?
Very sad someone or others many waste their time on such an issue separating a state from a republic unlike any other that brought it where it is today filth liberals that will potentially destroy not only the rest of the U.S. but the entire world. They said a good Indian is a dead Indian whether one believes it or not. The best State in the Union is a state free of radical liberals camped in Silicon Valley intimidating others with their empty immoral self. GHU JW
Without Cal the dems will never win again.
I think it’s a great idea. The Country of California.
Let the land of Queers and illegals leave. I say good riddence to bad rubish.
I hope they do, they can elect Hillary their president. That state is nothing but a cancer to the rest of us, with their socialist state government .Will see how much Hollywood is willing to support all the freeloader’s .
This is so ridiculous.
As usual, California has a corner on the the ultimate stupidity of any state in the USA
I LIVED IN CALIFORNICATION FOR 46 YEARS AND THE LIBERALS HAVE TURNED THE 7TH LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD INTO A $500 BILLION DEFICIT AND I SAY GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD TRASH AND WE TAX PAYERS WON’T HAVE TO BAIL OUT THE IDIOT MORONIC LIBERALS WHEN THEY GO BANKRUPT!!! I FEEL SORRY FOR THE REAL AMERICANS THAT LIVE THERE WHO DIDN’T VOTE FOR THE NEW MARXIST PARTY BUT THEY CAN DO THE SAME THING I DID 8 YEARS AGO AND THAT WAS LEAVE THE INSANE ASYLUM TO THE ILLEGAL ALIENS AND THE WORTHLESS TRAITORS CALLED LIBERALS!!!! VIETNAM VET
they need to really think about what the want like who will pay for all the money they will lose from fed.gov. and where they will sell all they produce, and how they will get to Las Vegas, they will go from sore losers to big time losers.
I think California leaving the U. S. is one of the best ideas I’ve heard in a long time! Of course, the demoncrats will be out of business if that happens, because Calif. is about their best customer!
Good. Then any invader will have to cross the Sierra Nevada mountains to get to us. No big loss. We’ll make movies in Fl. and go to Hawaii to surf.
It’s a Win-Win situation. Either way,
We The People, win.
It would be a WONDERFUL thing if they seceded, I wish NY would follow. You will never get that state to be re-america. I never see such a thing with so many crazy ass people as they have in California. They can never do america any good, just keep on ruin it. I wish Trump would ban California from the rest of the lower 48.
It’s about time I wish they would get New York and Illinois like to join in with him then we can get rid of all the trash from the people who really care about freedom and the American way of life and our culture
Many years ago, when I was stationed at Treasure Island, I enjoyed quite a bit of living in CA. I used to think that it had a young forward thinking population without extreme prejudices of religion, race and/or sexual preferences. Man, how wrong I was. CA has become a state of narrow minded anti constitution idiots.
I wished we could move all the liberals to California and get those good people in Calofornia out of there NOW!
I lived in California, when there were cries of ‘seceding from the USA’. California was paying higher welfare payments in the USA, and people kept flocking into the state with their hands out. I would have placed the envelope into each person’s hand, who had never lived in California, which gave the address and work hours times to the Highway Clean-Up job locations, and the total hours per week/months before the first check is issued. Then Our favorite ‘San Francisco vacation spots were invaded by the ‘homosexuals’ into all of our favorite restaurants, beaches, parks, SF State College, etc. It is time to stand up for the American laws and
Standards as an ENFORCED integral American Republic. Illegal aliens are not welcome into America, Just as illegal Americans have not been treated welcome into Mexico. Check out the criminal treatment of our U.S. MARINE,who became lost driving to his VA Hospital for his first medical appointment, and turned into a Mexican area. The Mexican President’s welcome was CRIMINAL, by sending our HERO to the Mexican Penitentiary, where He was beaten repeatedly by Mexican prisoners for over one to two years. Frankly, with eight years as Obama’s/Soros’s/Clinton’s Communist Rules for Revolution Treason, It is Great to have Donald Trump promising to follow the U.S. Constitution, Amendments, Stop The Muslim teaching in American schools of the chanting, writing scription, and secret Field Trips to the Mosques, and return to the USA Education Lessons to Succeed in learning the lessons for Success, Civility of following the Laws for Righteously working,and living in a country’s Laws and Freedoms peacefully together. We have learned about civilizations
of dictators or monarchs, and we have the Forefathers who realized that the Country is for The People to be
free to make choices of their life, successes, marriage, families, and education chances to succeed. Laws are
important.
can I submit a write in vote
California has been sponging off the rest of the country for years what will they without colo river water for example
This is weird since Crimea in the Ukraine was Russia’s deep water port leading out to the Mediterranean and they are not behaving well over who owns what. Now California on the United States of America’s West Cost is deciding to bail out taking their ports with them? I wonder what would happen if all government business was gone from the coastal area?
My dad was at an Army post back in the day when pay was issued in cash. The locals were angry about the military being among them and getting hard to live with so the base Commander ordered that the entire pay for one month would be paid out in $! bills. Each soldier who had a family paid his rent in $1 bills so the owners paid their bills the same way. those families bought their food, gas cloths and what ever else they needed, all paid for in $1 bills along with all the civilians and the people they all rented from$1 bills. Not only was the town flooded but all the banks were inundated with stacks of these things! Problems with the local people went away as they realized how much one little Army Post supported their town.
You see the same thing goes for California should they separate from our country whether the people there know yet or not. All the people who work there paid in Federal dollars don’t need to stay once they separate, it is all gone, moved to Oregon and Washington State or inland to Arizona and other States, they are on their own and the fence gets an added section running north and south.
A vote like that would have some consequences wouldn’t it? They could thank Holly Wood who would be there with them.
HEY! Hip Hip Hooray! I wish they would. I happen to know a lot of guys who would be willing to bring their jack hammers and get busy hacking away at the state line separating the entire state from the US, allowing it to become its own little island. Just let me know whey you want them to start.
Im writing the book now w/dinero as two face and Madonna as medusa
we fought a war about this want another one the fools out there outnumber thye sane people
What fools. Americans bail CA out to the tune of BILLIONS OF DOLLARS every year, because they throw their money away on foreigners that should be deported. The U.S.A. would never allow CA to leave, because that would mean a foreign government would be on our soil. They can all pick up and move to any country they like, well if they can find one, but don’t let that stop them from trying.
UPDATES: Here are the unAmericans trying to do us harm. Since they wanted to knife us in the back with Communist Globalists, and overrun us with an invasion of dangerous aliens and refugees embedded with ISIS, we would be happy to see them on their way to the country of their choice. Honor your word people, pack up and leave. Anyone notice these clowns all seem to be actors or singers? That makes them all the easier to boycott. You might want to make a reference copy of this list. I will be checking it before we see any movie or buy any CD.
Aniston, Jennifer, actress
Apatow, Judd, actor
Behar, Joy, talkshow
Benoist, Melissa, actess (Supergirl)
Berry, Hallie, actress
Beyoncé, singer
Bridges, Jeff, actor
Brooks, Garth, singer (too bad on this one. I have a lot of his CDs to trash now)
Bushemi, Steve, actor
Campbell, Neve, actress
Central Florida Publix, Groc store (block publication featuring Trump) too bad Publix was my favorite grocery store
Chamberlin, Jan, Mormon Tabernacle Choir, (so glad she resigned. I would hate to boycott the choir)
Cher, singer
Clooney, George, actor
Cranston, Bryan
Cuban, Mark, investor
Cyrus, Miley, singer
Damon, Matt, actor
De Niro, Robert, actor
Dion, Celine
DiCaprio, Leonardo, actor
Dixon, Brandon Victor (Hamilton’s actor)
Downey Jr., Robert, (darn it, we loved his movies, oh well plenty of other movies)
Dunham, Lena, involved in production (she is sorry she was not raped by Muslims)
Evans, Chris, actor
Fields, Sally, actress
Freeman, Morgan, actor
Fowler, Amy, actress (Big Bang Theory) we’ll never watch again
Gates, Bill and Malinda, Microsoft
Goldberg, Whoopee, talkshow
Goodman, John, actor (from Rosanne Barr show)
Gregg, Clark, TV actor (Old Christine)
Griffin, Eddie, jokester
Griffin, Kathy, jokester
Handler, Chelsea, jokester
Hanks, Tom (too bad, I’ll miss Hanks)
Hiddleston, Tom, actor (the Avengers)
Holliday, Jennifer, singer
Ice-Tea, actor
Jackson, Samuel J, actor
James, Lebron, sports
Johansson, Scarlet, actress in Avengers (same to lose her)
John, Elton, singer
Jolie, Angelina, actress
Jones, Van, CNN anchor
Jovi, Bon, singer
Kardashians, no bodies
Kutcher, Ashton, ex-husband of Demi Moore
Lawrence, Jennifer, actor (shame, I liked her movies)
Lady Gaga, singer
Lopez, George, actor
Lopez, Jennifer, singer
Louis-Dreyfus, Julia (actress)
MaDonna, singer
Macy, William H., actor
McConaughey, Matthew
Messing, Debra, actress
Moore, Julianne, actresses (red head on Hannibal Lecter movie)
Morgan, Piers, MC
Nicks, Stevie, singer
Odenkirk, Bob, actor
Oprah, talkshow
Perez, Rosie, actress
Perry, Katy, singer
Pitt, Brad, actor
Ryder, Winona, actress
Portman, Natalie, actress
Rose, Amber, model sort of
Ruffalo, Mark, actor in Avengers (too bad, I liked him)
Schuyler, Amy, jokester
Shannon, Michael, actor (she wished all Trump supports dead)
Sheen, Charlie, actor (made a death threat against Trump)
Sheen, Martin, actor
Silverman, Sarah, jokester
Symoné, Raven, actress has been
Spike Lee, Spike, director
Springsteen, Bruce, singer
Stewart, Jon, talkshow
Stone, Emma, actress (La La Land)
Streep, Meryl, actress
Streisand, Barbra, singer
Swift, Loretta, actress
Takei, George, Sulu of Star Trek
Tucci, Stanley, actor (murderer in Pelican Brief)
West, Kanye, singer
Whedon, Joss, a nobody wanting to be somebody
Z, Jay, singer
As one who grew up in California I have to say you folks have lost your frigging mind. You will lose far more than you will gain. Your insanity is proven by your statement of voting on emotion rather than facts. Immediately, you would lose all US military installations and the jobs/money they generate. All trade shipping would be rerouted either north or to the Gulf states. All federal highway, health etc dollars would stop and if the feds really wanted to screw you they’d hammer you on whatever currency exchange you dream up. Dumbest idea yet out of my former home which is truly now the land of fruits and nuts.
I think the country has gotten too big to accommodate such opposed viewpoints — one side or the other will be extremely unhappy. There is no middle ground, progressives are “my way or the highway.” Why not make Washington, Oregon, California one country; the Northeast (New York & up) another and keep the rest as one. The people in those countries will ideologically agree and be happy. There is just no middle ground on many of these issues and people can’t compromise. Irreconcilable differences; time for a divorce,
Where do I sign?????? What great news!!!! I’
m all for it. I can get all my friends to sign too!!!!! CAN’T WAIT!!!
It is stupid but the best news for the other 49 States.
We will convince the other 49 States to vote in favor of it..What wonderful news!!!!!!
Can we start putting up a new wall yet?????
Wonderful. MADONNA can get her bell full of CUM!!!!!!
I couldn’t care less that California became their own country. I’m sure I’d feel differently if I lived there, but I don’t see any advantage to the US in their being a part of this great country. From what I have read they are almost bankrupt. They are loaded with people with strange ideas and Ideals. We would be rid of Nancy, Barbara, and Maxine to name a few. I don’t see any disadvantages. My only words to them would be “Don’t let the door hit you in the @$$ on your way out.”
Sorry . Immigrants would not go into California ‘by the droves’ because they love dissension and they would not get it there ….Illegals want to make this country – THE USA- into THEIR country ….they THRIVE on disagreement …If they do that , where will they go next ??? Cutting heads off and being CRUEL TO WOMEN is a way of life to them ….
Hope they do. the only thing is Trump will have to build a longer wall to keep the fruits and nuts out. They will be like Greece in a couple of years because they are so far in debt they can’t see the bottom for looking up. Also we can cut of all the electricity that comes in from the northwest also the fresh water. Goodbye Calif.
If California wants to secede–and New York too– that sounds fine to me!
If this should happen, the conservatives need to come east of cal. Turn it over to the lefties. When they no longer have the financial support of the USA, they will go bankrupt. In their bewildered state they will cease to exist for several reasons. Then we can take it back free of liberals. Some of these freaks say they will build a wall so conservatives will stay out. As if they would need a wall for that.
This sounds like a product of movement in Mexico to regain lands lost in the US v Mexican war. It was tried once before, by a larger section of the nation, and lead to a civil war. It is a stupid and unproductive (except to anti-American groups) action which just further makes California look like a bunch of left wing morons in the eyes of many Americans. Why don’t these same people ask why California is so disliked by many Americans? Perhaps they might find that their outrageous behavior in many areas might have something to do with it.
Yeah!!!!!!!!! Great news for the rest of us. They are a dead state anyway. They can pay for the mess they are in on their own dime. How will they distribute
Those 55 electoral votes they had. I think Dems are in real trouble if they secede. No Pelosi , no Feinstein . No left wing congressmen or senators. Yeah!!!!!!!. I can hardly wait. The illegals will vote for secession. This would be a great day for the rest of America. Guess they will have to have their own armed forces . We can also claim them to be a terrorist country. I hope Washington and Oregon join them. That whole left coast needs to go. Illinois can join them also . Another lost state. New York?? Maybe so. Heck there will never be another democrat in the White House . Sounds like a plan to me .
Tomcat01 you are right. I dont know how they can overcome that tho’ All we can do is pray
OMG…I hope they do…..then build a big wall to keep them out…besy thing for this country…they are in the toilet anyway..
That group said THEY would build a wall to keep us out. Adios
California has indeed become the looney bin of America.
Discount the illegal votes in California’s elections and the Democrat Party would lose all offices as well as support for things like : SANCTUARY CITIES and the train to nowhere.
California isn’t as liberal as its made iut to be, remember some years back the people voted against gay marriage but the courts intervened.but its a shame that the majority of government officials and celebrities are liberal leftist and they are the ones ruining the state, in my opinion.
Based upon the governing forces of Gov, Jerry Brown of California, it appears that the people of the State of California prefer to be a separate entity of the United States of America. With this in mind and with the elected officials of the Congress and Senate representing the state of California and their attitude regarding the Constitution of the United States and their representation of the 9th Circuit of appeals, it is only appropriate to grant them succession from the United States.
A desolation of the 9th.circuit court and to form a border granting them succession and giving California to Mexico with full borders separating California from the United States and all applicable access to all Country and State benefits as a State of the United States. Full borders shall apply as a Foreign Country. This is in the best interest of the United States.
A failure to acknowledge this is an Act of War against the United States and Mexico which shall be carried out to the fullest extent as necessary for the protection of the United States of America.
Before any native American is killed or injured and before they were allowed to secede, I’m for letting anyone who wants to leave (like to a desert camp full of Winnebagos) would be allowed to. Then I’d move everybody who wants to leave the U.S. to Mexico along with the illegals. Then drive the assholes who never ever have anything good to say for the USA into the sea and wait for them all to beg on their knees to come back as long as they give up 90% of their net worth, with no one getting touched who was under a millionaire!
Let them try to secede. Then make sure Jerry Brown’s army of wussies get it up the wazzoo where they like it anyway! There are a lot of uppity rich super jerks living in CA who deserve to spend a lot of time praying on their knees before being allowed back into this great country of ours!
Will Trump call for 75,000 volunteers to “invade” California like Lincoln did VA?
It is time for Jefferson and South California to make their moves to separate from California and become separate states. The rest of California is over populated and predominately Spanish speaking and is already a foreign country.
Great ? those wack a doodles from Jerry brown down should live away from real Americans.
Are the majority of Californians willing to lose everything, all their wealth (as all bank accounts will be frozen and taken by the Feds), all possessions forfeited, and declare Independence against the USA?
And when the USA Government and rest of the American people tell CA, your people can leave anytime they want and renounce their USA citizenship, but the land of CA is USA Territory! Does CA actually believe the USA and American people would allow them to take USA territory and Federal lands?
It didn’t work in 1860 when many southern States wanted to secede from the USA, why does CA they think it would work now?
Who in CA will take up arms against America and the USA military? The crybaby Hollywood actors? Acting a military person does not make you military.
The illegal drug bands? They can’t even get along to decide their drug turf!
The LGBT community?
The State of California is not all state land. It is largely USA Federal Land. CA has no claim or control of any USA Federal Lands!
Remember a big part of CA is the USA military and they will not be under CA control!!! CA has no claim to any USA military bases, USA Naval bases, or USA Airforce bases! Is CA going to try to draft all their residents into a CA military to go to war with the USA? Good luck with that.
Can California afford to pay for a revolution against the USA, when all their funds are frozen and taken away by the Fed?
There are plenty of conservatives in California that want nothing to do with CA declaring Independence from the USA and will not support this CA action.
The conservatives are the ones with most of the guns, so those liberals that want to secede will have to fight against their own well armed residents as well !
Never going to happen.
The oaths taken by all USA military and USA government are to protect the USA from all threats, both foreign and domestic! This is definitely a threat to the USA.
The Supreme Court of the USA has already ruled at the end of the Civil War that a State cannot secede unilaterally. So the rest of the USA would have to agree to it, or CA would have to fight a revolutionary war against the USA that they could never win.
This action in CA is just a stupid show by a bunch of crybaby loudmouthed idiots.
It amazes me that so many Californian have opinions that are so different then what the votes show? And they realize that illegals are voting and don’t seem to know how to stop it! Seems you folks in California need to start your own getting together and building a grass roots movement and take your state back, especially from those so called celebrities who seem to think they speak for all of you.
I wonder is that all of CA. Wondering about northern CA. Nourther CA. suffers
from every thing the population dense southern Ca. demands. The split between N/S counties may be the state result.
Can the rest of America vote on this too? I sure hope so!!!!!
yes let it happen it will be the biggest mistake they made since electing the idiot Arnold as their governor. But don’t let them come back or give them any aid when they go belly up. Make sure they take all the Hollywood fruitcakes with them and the illegals.
As usual they have not thought this thing through. California has an extremely large deficit in their budget. Very soon now President Trump will push Congress to terminate all federal funding to California. I can hardly wait for them to start squealing like a raped pig. More importantly, the Federal Government owns most of the land, especially where water comes from. Even Governor Moonbeam Choo Choo’s precious High speed rail resides on some federal property. Since these parcels of land may be in California they do not belong to California so that would stay with the United States. So go ahead, make my day.
You go, Cali!! I have a suggestion. Have everyone go to the shoreline of the Pacific and jump up and down, maybe the state will break off at the eastern state lines and you can become an island ? that goes further and further out to sea. Make sure to stop in Hollywood and pick up the nuts that have worked loose like Meryl Streep and Louis Julia-Dreyfus!
I am curious (it is my politically incorrect curiosity talking) to know, besides Marcus Ruiz Evans, names of the heads of this political group, Yes California, and their ethnicity. Do they really want to separate from the USA or they want to then join Mexico? If we know their ethnic background, we might know the motivation behind this secession movement.
I will sign the petition in SC if it will help remove California from the US. Residents that don’t agree need to move to the Ozarks. Make sure immigrant laws set to keep refugees from California out of the US.
You can bet that the demorats of Ca will use their illegal voting tactics to get the results that THEY WANT, the people will have nothing to do about it, it will be Moonbeam Brown that decides what Ca’s fate will be. Californian’s will have NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT. As long as Moonbeam is in office, Ca will continue to be known as the toilet of America. Ca. is where the SWAMP NEEDS TO BE DRAINED as soon as possible, before Moonbeam completely causes Ca to fall into the ocean. All the Demorats are at fault of the decline of Ca. and should be jailed. they are CRIMINAL’s.
See Ya ! We won’t miss them . I feel for the Good people there though , and hopefully they won’t have any credit in Our Elections !! Things continue to look better everyday !
Good riddance.
Hope all the Cali’s that moved to other states return to the USSR-C.
Let them do it. Let them form their own government. Let them form their own military. Let them form their own commerce. Let them do what ever it is they want to but do not send them any aid. Let them buy everything.
When they are over-run by crime and crippled financially they will wish they never had become their own country. They will not get any protection from enemies that form against them. Go ahead, let the people of such low regard for this country “Secede”.
I do not live in California ! I live in Arizona but I feel your pain! A lot of you have questioned why so many live in the big cities! Well I am not sure but my feeling is that it has something to so with the Unite Nations Agenda 21 program for world domination and that is herd everyone into the cities so the populace is more easily controlled. Part of the Globalist (NWO) Agenda. Take away their guns, foment civil unrest as part of the way to. accomplish this agenda! Just a thought!
I am a devoted Patriotic American who was until the 2016 elections a Democrat. This is the first time in my whole life that I have been sooooo ASHAMED to have been a Democrat. I guess I didn’t know better then but I know now. I am proud to be an American and I am soooo thankful that we have a President in office whom I know for certain didn’t have to take on what he and his dedicated Cabinet members face everyday for WE THE PEOPLE. That kind of demonstrated conviction and fortitude can not be bought – it must be earned. I don’t feel there will be enough signatures to have California secede from the USA but if THEY did, I would definitely leave California behind.
THE SAN ANDREAS FAULT,SHOULD JUST ARISE AND STRETCH IT’S POWERFUL ARMS TO SEPARATE THE THE STATE FROM THE GOOD STATES,AND SEND CALIFORNIA INTO THE BEAUTIFUL PACIFIC OCEAN. TAKING ALL OF HOLLYWOOD WITH IT.!
BYE!!!! Just be SURE you pay your debts to the rest of the states YOU ALREADY OWE!!!!
I live in California since 1974 & I have always been a Republican. The weather is only thing to stay for here. Liberals & Democrats welcome immigrants because of their votes. I surely do not want California as a separate country.
Leave, goodbye, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
Don’t come crying back when you need military support, food and basic staples of life. The rest of the states can deport all of our illegals to your “country” and let them suck you dry.
lets start investigating all politicians
don’t need that All of America want you to leave,all you are is a bunch of chid molester and whores.
Some Californians apparently prefer suicide to remaining a part of the United States — the greatest country the world has ever known.
“The Wall” is presently scheduled to run from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean — from Brownsville, Texas to just South of Imperial Beach, California. But that may change if La Raza and other anti-American organizations get their way. You see, supporters of California’s faux independence initiative have been
authorized by Secretary of State Alex Padilla to proceed with secession efforts. If the petitioners succeed, “The Wall” would then be required to run westward from the Gulf to the California border at Yuma, Arizona, thence roughly northward to the northeast corner of Modoc County, California, thence westward again to the Pacific.
The stealth invasion of illegal immigrants (from many nations) across our southern border, which is welcomed by the state, has put California at risk of losing, among other things, its 165-year run as “The Golden State” of the Union.
California’s removal from the Union will be no great loss, however. The liberals who control the state today have, as with most such political entities, run the state into the ground financially: that once thriving economy is on the brink of bankruptcy. Why, Governor “Moonbeam” recently signed into law a $.40 per gallon tax on gasoline (which was already the most expensive in the country) just to keep the state employee retirement system afloat. Unfortunately the government’s liberal policies have run so many private companies out of the state that there really isn’t all that much tax money left to confiscate. California today is a net drain on the nation’s economy.
But, just think of the benefit to the rest of the country when we can get rid of all those foolish and costly regulations that have been put in place at the national level just to satisfy the “needs” of the prune pickers and their invaders.
SOOOO glad I escaped back in ‘61.
As the author of the article opines in his final sentence, “Hmm, maybe it’s not so silly after all…”
Although I have family there…I say let them. Let’s just see how far they will get with the ridiculously high State, Sales, Gasoline, etc. taxes forced upon them by moonstar Brown. Oh yeah…who they gonna call when disaster strikes? Terrorists? Sure ain’t the good ol’ US of A.
California is overrun with ILLEGALS anyway. DEPORT all of them and take a vote. Would people in CA want to stay as a United State with other states, cede to Mexico or be independent country? What Forrest Gump said “Stupid is as stupid does” or something like that. All California has to do is DEPORT ALL THEIR ILLEGALS.
Well if they Secede does the U.S still have to supply them water, or power?
They can probably get their petition signatures with just the illegals living in the state. As far as the vote goes, California has been hemorrhaging businesses and people for a few years now. Think of the flow of jobs away from the state if they were to no longer be part of the US of A. But, then again, they elect dolts like Maxine Waters, Nanny Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, et al.
This is great news. when it happens Trump can build a wall on their eastern border to keep any of them from leaving. Then when we catch any illegals we help them scale the fence and get into Cal. Lets help them achieve this goal.
Now think about this “If California seceded from the union (if they do hope all the dem-nuts celebrities stay in Ca.) they then would need visas to come into the states and we could say no to visas issued for Californiaians or all those poor unhappy celebs. YEA
Look………..Pres. Trump is already creating MORE jobs…we’ll have to build another wall!!!! YEAH!!!!!!! Keep those Hollyweirds out of my country……they act like domestic terrorists anyway!!!!