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California Wants to Steal Trump’s Tax Break Back From Top Businesses
Posted On 22 Jan 2018
This is unreal. Not only has California vowed to prosecute any employer who cooperates with the Trump administration on the issue of arresting and deporting illegal aliens, at least two Democrats in the state legislature want to prevent California’s largest businesses from accruing any benefit from Trump’s recent tax reform plan. If you didn’t know better, you’d think this state was run by a bunch of half-cocked Communists hellbent on destroying the free market.
If you didn’t know better.
Assemblymen Kevin McCarty and Phil Ting introduced a new bill this week that would compel companies with net earnings exceeding $1 million to hand over 10% of their tax savings to the state government. Insisting that the GOP’s tax reform plan amounted to little more than a “middle-class tax increase,” the Democrat lawmakers said they wanted to confiscate the savings and invest (read: waste) them in California social services programs.
“It is unconscionable to force working families to pay the price for tax breaks and loopholes benefiting corporations and wealthy individuals,” Ting said in a statement. “This bill will help blunt the impact of the federal tax plan on everyday Californians by protecting funding for education, affordable health care and other core priorities.”
In other words: We’re going to do everything we can to make sure that the federal government’s tax reform plan doesn’t do anything for the California economy. So if you see the rest of the country suddenly enjoying the fruits of a booming market, well, we’re sorry but we don’t play that game in California. Especially not when President Donald Trump might get the credit. We’d rather force our top companies out of the state altogether than tacitly admit that the president might actually be doing something good for the country.
To be sure, California has much to offer the entrepreneur, and there’s nothing Democrats can do short of apocalyptic self-sabotage to change that. But they can make the state much less hospitable to thriving businesses for no other reason than to stick it to Trump. That appears to be exactly what they’re planning to do, at least if these two Democrats get their way. Which, since California Democrats recently lost their supermajority in the legislature, they may not.
Between the state’s outrageous policies toward illegal immigrants, its war on the Trump administration, and its increasingly unfriendly posture towards industry, California is quickly becoming the ultimate historical example of leftism run amok. The state’s decline may not morph into catastrophe today or tomorrow, but you can bank on it just as surely as you can bank on the sun coming up in the morning. And where do you think they’ll go looking for a bailout?
They’d better hope Mexico has a few spare billion lying around.
California and the democrats in general have a mission to tax the population into poverty. I’ve been there. It’s all about controlling the people.
And the sheeple continue to re-elect the criminals bankrupting the state and destroying the people.
The GOOD people of mexifornia have the same problem we have in N.Y, State…The cities with the largest population of communist liberal “progressives” control the policies, and outvote the conservatives. Voter fraud, ILLEGALS “voting”, and welfare scum, that ALWAYS vote DEMOCOMMUNIST (to keep the “free stuff” coming, is what keeps the COMMUNISTS (aka “democrats”) in power) “They” are the “party” of bribes and “CONS” (that is , until the “voting” is done, THEN the people that were “promised ‘free stuff and “special treatment” are “forgotten” until the next “election”. You would think these “sheeples” would get wise to this ‘treatment”, but it seems everytime the BRIBES come out, they suck it up, and vote DEMOCOMMUNIST and the “cycle” begins again.
Yes, if we stopped giving illegal immigrants (Law Breakers) free education, healthcare, food and other social benefits, they would self deport. We need to vote out all the Democrats during the next election cycle so we can get some sane people in those positions.
That is an excellent idea, BUT with all the voter fraud,and the WELFARE “takers” that love the FREE STUFF “provided” by DEMOCOMMUNISTS in exchange for “loyalty” and of course “votes”, we are ALL are fighting an “uphill” battle. I see on the internet, old chuck-you- schumer was at lunch with george soros’ “spawn” to “hobnob’, and probably collect some more CASH after getting burned by PRESIDENT TRUMP over daca.
I saw the photo of Chucky Schmoozer With the Soros kid myself it is in fact true. Chucky is like the evil doll in the movies!
Must be the “funds” are getting LOW, and old “cryin chuckie” needs some extra cash to keep his anti-TRUMP “obstruction” funded.
Yes! I think we should get the Evil Doll Chucky tag out across the web!
If you can, remember your state legislature included voter registration with every ID and drivers license. The freeloaders from elsewhere are voters now.
AMEN to this!
Unfortunetly the majority of California are illegals or have family members here and vote for the suckers in Sacramento. Soros and Tom Steyer use their billions to control the politicians and these gutless creeps have no morals and use the public as ponds. The Americans citizens in CA are a sorry minority now and that is why the Demo-rats keep getting re-elected because they talk a good line. It’s a lawless State and as you can all see what these bold and brazen Daca brats demonstrate and rebel. They are actually keeping the Californian’s hostage.
Why would the politicians care , they are living high and guaranteed benefits for life ????
Time for vigilantes to step up. “moonbeam” should be the first to “go”
Pappy450 – You have described a majority population in CA….. the normal people who don’t live in SF, LA, SD and looney Hollywood. The millions and the entitlement-hopeful in the mega-cities control the ‘normals’!
Unfortunately, there are a lot of Government workers that are getting ridiculous pensions and benefits who are voting for those pensions in New York. A gym teacher can easily make $105K per year and retire at $70,000 with full health insurance for life. Just ridiculous. Professionals working in industries have no pension or health insurance after retirement.
I know exactly what you are talking about, because I am ‘living it”. After I got hurt on the job (I was one of those “professionals”) I was a service tech with heating and refrigeration training that included Ammonia refrigeration systems. My health insurance was “cancelled” by my employer right after I was injured and he found out I could not work again. The company that I had previously worked for for 12 years and Paid into their “pension” program, was “bought out” by another company and MY “pension” went with it. SO medicare, and SSD are all I have now.
Sorry to hear this news and it is common. Since we are all paying into it, why not all of us benefit from it?
You have just described the reasoning behind the electoral college, to give a clearer voice to the entire nation anf not let big cities dictate to everyone else.
Yes, and when they do get wise to that treatment they move to another state and vote in Democrats and the cycle repeats.
not the sheeple, those with no brains, and on the dole love voting for those that look to give them from the producers.
And those in power keep letting more into the state that give them power
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
A Einstein
One thing for sure there are no Einstein people in Congress .
That is why the Democraps keep providing more and more welfare to these people, so they will have their votes. You really want to get upset, google the California debt clock.
Who says these corrupt ones are actually being ‘elected’ by the people?? With their tendency to ‘stack’ the votes in the direction they ‘want’ them–I doubt the tallies are honest!! They are ‘fraudulent’ right down to their toenails!
Your right, California already is the #1 state for poverty. Still these Socialistic Democrats keep spending money on lawbreakers, illegal immigrants. I read a news article that Los Angeles spent 1.3 Billion dollars on illegal immigrants to provide them with welfare. Not sure if that included the Free Education, healthcare, food and other benefits they get. DACA needs to end now and Governor Moonbeam and his DOJ need to be thrown in jail.
Preston they spend much more than 1.3 billions. It does not include the free stuff they get. We the regular Californians have no more rights. Ca made a big mistake by allowing these foreigners come here in mass and now we are being destroyed. The politicians are doing everything to stay in power they have the voters in their pockets legal and illegal.
If the citizens (legal ones) don’t impeach half of CAs politicians, the state is doomed. They are beyond jealous and corrupt.
“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.”
Einstein, again
I wish I knew how we could impeach them. But with the majority on their side how can it be done?? I personally would like to see every one of these Dems gone to hell.
Republicans have to take back Calif from the Dems the only way we have is to come out in force and vote.
I agree with you!
The two ASSHOLE politicians from California who suggest companies disregard tax rules, should be brought up on charges and fired for their non cooperation with lawful orders from Washington. The State of California is so fucken liberal, it boggles the mind. FUCK THEM. Time to cut off ALL funding from Washington to them, until they get in line with lawful issues.
I also encourage ALL Americans to spend your tourist dollars anywhere but Caliph-ornia…..Let them go screw!
Then you would also recommend they withhold their tax dollars and revenue and cut off their dollars going to Washington?
If that’s what it takes….of course, all the more, they (California) would be breaking the law……but then again, with all those on welfare and illegals, maybe the country would be better off…..if we take care of anyone, it should be AMERICANS FIRST, not illegals…..sorry for their plight, but they have to enter our country properly…..it took my girlfriend 8 years to get a green card and then 5 more years to become a citizen…..13 years…..and these folks want to get on the front of the line and then have the balls to demand $15 an hour……….my sister who is an American citizen, is 82 years of age and make $9 an hour, wheres the fairness? Stop funding the freebies, the state of California has to obey the rules of the land, if not, fuck them and they should suffer the consequences……
If you want a better life in California you have to pretend to be illegal and take on a Latino last name.
true try and get state assistance and see where get unless you are Mexican or another race forget it it won’t happen.
They take a lot more from the Feds than they pay to the Feds. Every time we have fires, floods etc they run to the Feds and beg. Nothing should be given to our crazy leaders maybe than the voters would stop voting these crooks back into office.
Actually not – Calif paid about $13 billion more than it received according to the most recent Internal Revenue Data Book
I will have to see that in black and white from a source that is impeccable and not planted by the crooked dems.
We also need to get the DOJ in here to arrest the governor and other members of our legislature for aiding and abetting lawbreakers (illegal immigrants).
I could have not said it any better.
I just saw this morning “king andrew” the “governor” of N.Y. has “installed” in the state budget “free college tuition for illegals” If this isn’t aiding and abetting Illegal immigrant lawbreakers I ask, That the HELL, IS???
Dave I live here in San Jose and I am all for all of the funding being cut off to this insane State and even if it hurts many conservatives as well, Ca does not deserve a federal dime.
There is already a movement to cut off the leftists in SoCal into their own communist state. The vast majority of taxpayers in the rest of CA are sick of Gov. Moonbeam and the “spend & tax” Demwit Crybabies looting their citizens in favor of welfare, big screen TVs and free healthcare (and Spanish-speaking schools for all their little cockroaches) for mucho Illegos.
This is just another way for the California democrates to rape the companies that support our state. They have already driven many companies OUT!!! What the he!! is wrong with these idiots. They have already killed our state and now want to bury us.
than maybe the good people of California might think about the CARTRIDGE BOX, INSTEAD OF THE BALLOT BOX.
seeing how your dealing with DOMESTIC TRAITORS AND COMMUNIST TRYING TO KILL BUSINESS AND YOU.
That’s the demotard leftists’ intention, to destroy the Republic, one state at a time if necessary. Look what the traitors have done to the cities, and the ghetto dwellers still support them?….We’re talking mega stupid, with no cure in sight.
They have the Pelosi type in Ca. and Schumer in NY ,plus the loonies in Washington State Oregon and the north east . It is time to clean out the loony tune Politicians .
Put it this way—either WE ‘clean’ THEM out or THEY’LL clean US out!!! Which way do we want it?? Perhaps their ‘major’ companies had best pack up and move out! Evidently, a lot of companies have already done that. They need to lose the ones that really ‘count’!!
What they don’t understand is upper management of Companies do not like paying high taxes on their income , no what political party they support . That is why the South has gained so much industry and once taxes go up they find a new location with tax breaks .
Upper management’s taxable income IS NOT the same as Company taxes which is what they are talking about!!
But Upper management is the one that decides to relocate for tax advantages for the Business and themselves . Tax incentives is what drives relocating .
Unfortunately my guess is they are moving overseas rather than another part of the U.S. any state that voted consistently red for the past 30 years are great candidates for the companies to open up shop.
If you read the articles, a lot of the industrys are moving to Texas.
Go figure, considering what I have read about states with the largest amount of illegals always a labor force who will work for peanuts and take little pride in their work, there is a big difference between design specifications and quality craftsmanship.
LOL..GM found that out when they moved one of their engine plants to Mexico. They had a lot of problems!!
Yet a few years back I was reviewing the mfrs. spec. sheet on a new Ford Fusion and low and behold it said made in Mexico.
LOL..It is on the door jamb sticker.
Well I read this particular article from the beginning through to the end at least 4 times and nowhere is there any comment about any state but CaliMexifornia.
Is you noticed I said, articles. Not this one. A lot of industry IS moving to Texas. The word articles means plural.
They WERE moving overseas WHICH IS WHY TRUMP is GIVING them INCENTIVE to stay AND COME BACK!! WITHOUT BLUE COLLAR MANUFACTURING JOBS, OUR COUNTRY IS DEAD!! NOT everyone can be a doctor, lawyer, nurse, politician!! AND NO FAMILY CAN LIVE ON 10-20 DOLLARS AN HOUR. If you think it possible, try it!! See what kind of life you have!
I never said it was easy, just show me where I said that, as for $20/hr. those are management wages in the service industry, try more like $10-$15.
With the economy booming, the big corporations in California will be moving to other states in the U.S..
ABSOLUTELY!! WHEN AND HOW?? HOW DO WE MAKE THESE IDIOTS IN OUR COUNTRY WAKE UP AND REALIZE HOW STUPID THEY ARE FOR BELIEVING SO MUCH OF THE CRAP BEING SHOVED DOWN THEIR THROATS?? SUCH AS BEING GENDER NEUTRAL! PLEASE!! The only way that a person can truly be GENDER NEUTRAL is when they are BORN without a GENDER!! WHY IS THIS BULLSHIT BEING ADMISSIBLE??? THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT A GOVERNMENT WANTS THEIR MALE POPULATION TO BELIEVE IN WHEN THEY WANT DEMOCRACY ERADICATED!! IF A MAN BELIEVES HE IS A GIRL, WEARS MAKEUP AND DRESSES, WHO IS GOING TO DEFEND OUR COUNTRY FROM TERRORISTS, DEFEND DEMOCRACY, AND FREEDOM ACROSS THE GOLBE?? THERE WILL BE NO ONE!!! THERE WILL BE NO BABIES UNLESS FERTILIZATION TAKES PLACE IN A DOCTORS OFFICE!! EVERYONE better opens their eyes and minds and start getting a GRIP on what the DEMOCRATIC PARTY is really trying to accomplish!! Our LEADERS are ALSO the PEOPLE that our CHILDREN MODEL THEMSELVES AFTER. IF ALL ARE GAY, LESBIAN, OR DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE OUR CHILDREN?? MY DAUGHTER was so confused about who she was SEXUALLY because of all of the Actors and Singers leading her astray. She CANNOT be the only one to have been in this crisis. She was not BORN LESBIAN or even attracted to GIRLS. However, she was lead astray for a short time. WHY WOULD OUR COUNTRIES LEADERS NEED THIS?? NOW A TRANSGENDER is running for OFFICE?? Sorry, but is this the right message to our CHILDREN or OTHER COUNTRIES?? NOT WHAT I WANT!! THEY can be whatever they chose privately but should not be a PUBLIC LEADER FOR MANY REASONS!! CLEAN THEM UP!! ALL OF THE LEADERS WITH BAD AGENDAS!! GET THEM OUT OF OFFICE!!! WE NEED TO BE VIEWED AS A BAD ASS SUPERPOWER USA COUNTRY NOT AS A SISSY ASS USA COUNTRY!!! OUR FOREFATHERS HAVE TO BE ROLLING IN THEIR GRAVES TO THINK OF HOW HARD THEIR COUNTRYMEN FOUGHT AND DIED FOR THIS COUNTRY AND THEIR FREEDOMS!! AND YES THAT INCLUDES EVERY LEGAL PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY, THEY ARE ALL FREE! EVEN THOUGH MANY CLAIM DIFFERENTLY!!
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Great post .
That’s jerry browns bonus for his corrupt politicians, you don’t think that
money would actually make it into the welfare program do you?
Maybe he can import more illegals into California with the sanctuary
status
California is a failed socialist state with 12% of the nation’s population and 22% of the nation’s homeless. California has just replaced Mississippi as the state with 5he highest level of poverty. Sad.
Yes and they are so stupid they keep spending on welfare. Los Angeles spent 1.3 Billion on providing welfare payments to illegal immigrants (law Breakers). The socialistic, open borders Democraps think they don’t have to support our laws. We need an immigration law like Mexico has : exico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven’t been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill.
That’s too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.
At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it’s noteworthy that nobody has argued that the U.S. look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve
our illegal immigration problem. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:
in the country legally;
have the means to sustain themselves economically;
not destined to be burdens on society;
of economic and social benefit to society;
of good character and have no criminal records; and
contributors to the general well-being of the nation.
The law also ensures that:
immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;
foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;
foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;
foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;
foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.
Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens — and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, illegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or
General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country’s immigration policy.
It is an interesting law — and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a
crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.
If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.
We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. [1] Now let’s look at Mexico’s main immigration law.
Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:
Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)
Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)
Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)
The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)
Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:
Many appear to have missed it but it is ILLEGAL to be an ILLEGAL ALIEN here as well. Probably not a felony here but DEFINITELY ILLEGAL! WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL OF THESE DEMOCRATS THAT DON’T THINK THAT THE LAWS ARE TO BE OBEYED?? ESPECIALLY THE LAWMAKERS!! I Do Not UNDERSTAND THESE IDIOTS!!! A Law is a Law for a REASON, IS IT NOT?? MEXICO DEFINITELY HAS THE RIGHT IDEA; AND, IT IS THE SAME THAT TRUMP IS TRYING TO IMPLEMENT. I understand WE were the country that took everyone in even if they were a TERRORIST WITH THE INTENT TO KILL EVERYONE HERE; HOWEVER, AN ESTABLISHED COUNTRY CAN NOT KEEP THE SAME PHILOSOPHIES AS A FLEDGLING. It is really no different than the differences between being single and married with children. YOU SIMPLY CANNOT DO THE SAME THINGS WHEN YOU ARE MARRIED AND HAVE CHILDREN AS YOU DID WHEN YOU WERE SINGLE! WE ARE NOW A MARRIED COUNTRY WITH CHILDREN AND WE NEED TO START BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR CHILDREN!! THAT ALSO MEANS TEACHING THEM TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND SELF RELIANT!! NOT sitting back and trying to find a way to live off of the Government (WHICH HAPPENS TO BE EVERY OTHER TAX PAYER IN THE USA)!! Do you ALL REALIZE how many people that do not appear to UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT??? Even if we are not sitting in OFFICE making the LAWS and Judgements!! The GOVERNMENT IS THE COLLECTION OF CITIZENS AND THEIR MONEY, ESSENTIALLY. THE ONES IN OFFICE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OUR REPRESENTATIVES. PEOPLE that live on WELFARE think that the Government just prints a check then in turn prints MONEY to back that check. They have no concept OR do not wish to!!
When people reach that level of deprivation, it isn’t simply ‘sad’—it’s downright dangerous. They reach a point of ‘no return’! They have nothing to lose and everything to gain by becoming thieves and murderers. History WILL ‘repeat’ itself!
I stand corrected. This is a dangerous economic model already confirmed with the failed “great socialist” experiment in Venezuela, USSR, NoKo…
California has gone completely Socialist. Anyone with common seance should stay away from California. There’s plenty of jobs available in other states.
Oh it will probably go for welfare programs…for the Illegal immigrants. L.A. spent 1.3 Billion dollars on welfare payments to illegal immigrants. That’s just one city here. If they really wanted to have these people self-deport then don’t provide welfare assistance to these law breakers. Mexico doesn’t provide any type of assistance to foreigners. If they do gain citizenship they still can’t get assistance. We need to quit giving these illegal immigrants preferential treatment. Why do the Democraps think it is alright to aid and abet these foreigners. Mexico doesn’t allow non-citizens to protest or hinder the political agenda, why does our government listen and cater to foreigners (illegal immigrants). Vote out all the democrats during the next couple election cycles. We need our citizens to get out and register/vote and get rid of them.
I agree with you 100%. If we didn’t give them welfare they would go back to their country. And as far as voting the democrats out , how can we trust the count ? You know that they are corrupt as hell and will lie about the outcome of the vote.
Democrats want the illegals here so perhaps one day they can vote in another piece of shot like obama. Our country is in sad shape because of the liberals policies, all I can say is we need more people like mr. Trump in office . Get rid of the clintons,obamas and Jerry browns and our country will be in good shape again.
Clean up your own damned mess! As a resident of the once proud state of Colorado, I’ve seen Californian refugees
swarm upon us, bringing their STUPID politics with them.
Now, we’re just as F@@@ED up as California.
THANKS!
did the same here in nevada
I have relatives in California and I know how screwed up the state is, I stopped visiting my relatives.They all have been brainwashed and are Democrats too. No more California for me. Let them live with the Illegals.
Why don’t those companies move out of Californua? Other states would support them.
My sister lives there I hope they relocate but not Oregon or Washington state it’s not much better.
How do THOSE IDIOTS keep getting ELECTED? Are they truly winning the elections? Or are they winning by cheating?? We know Hilliay cheated. Fortunately, several of the tampered voting machines were tested and discovered BEFORE the election. Most Election Winners are determined before the voting ever TAKES place. OR are there just that many IDIOTS VOTING FOR THE IDIOTS??? WE the PEOPLE are going to have to change things ourselves and OPENLY SUPPORT the President or Politicians who are doing right! AS WELL AS, START TEACHING OUR CHILDREN RIGHT FROM WRONG INSTEAD OF LEAVING IT UP TO THEIR TEACHERS AND PROFESSORS. OUR CHILDREN ARE BEING BRAINWASHED RIGHT UNDERNEATH OUR VERY NOSES!!
The problem is the Democrats are turning this country into a Socialistic, open borders, one world order one. They don’t know this country was formed as a Republic. That is why the Democrats enact welfare etc. They even provide it to illegal immigrants. L.A. last year spent 1.3 Billion on welfare to illegal immigrants. That’s just one city. California is also the #1 state in poverty, if you include the cost of Housing, taxes, and medical. The other thing the Democrats want is to get rid of our second amendment rights as they know if you make the citizens dependent on government programs and take away their weapons and ammunition you have complete control of the population. California uses the DOJ here to regulate the heck out of guns so that they can make more of them illegal and confiscate them that way. They know currently that is more affective then trying to do completely away with the second amendment for now anyway.
You’ve got it exactly right, Renee!!! We need to realize what is happening to our youngsters!! If we elect to have children, we need to realize that their safety and education is our responsibility!! We can no longer leave that in the hands of government organizations with any degree of confidence.
yep that the goal, and they think they are so smart, Moonbeam was whining about the state going bankrupt. TSTL. OUT OF HERE THIS SUMMER, to a saner state. Hope I can get there before all of the people who have a clue leave this state.
Yes California should split up. That is if they are smart they will.
Gena that’s a damn good idea. They are so large it’s hard to manage. If we can have a N and S Carolina, we can have a N and S California.
Except San Fran is in north and LA is south. Both are doing their best to destroy California.
Good point, Debra. However, this way they’d have only ‘one’ to deal with instead of ‘both’! LOL
Knowing the Socialist sharia mentality of everything west of basically the east/west dividing line anyone who is not in favor of the NWO/OWO should ban together and become states that oppose the all 1 big happy family notion.
Large metro. areas have become more and more spoiled over the past 50 years every time they go into deep debt the federal government bailed them out, CaliMexifornia it is the most extreme financial burden for the U.S. welfare for all who apply for it, plus the earthquakes, brush fires, landslides, mudslides, riots the place is definitely as close as you will get to the description of hell in this nation, a law should have been drafted decades ago that stated to live in CA you had to carry Disaster insurance through Lloyd’s of London if necessary why should the taxpaying poor have had to pick up the tab for fixing up or rebuilding mansions, if you can afford to live in a luxurious estate then you can afford to carry insurance to rebuild in the event of a natural disaster.
That’s more complicated than that! The biggest mistake was done 35 -40 years ago when both parties had started that economical course known as “globalization” acting in the best interests of big money bags (banks) and corporations. What followed? – A massive de-industrialisation of the country (massive move of production overseas estimated in trillions of dollars!) Oregon, for instance, I’m familiar with, lost up to 30% of its best cutting-edge jobs, like machinery and tool production. More to it, the federal investments into innovation (education & hi-tech) decreased sharply resulting in losing the leadership in many industrial spheres. Besides, while we were spending trillions of dollars in Irak and Afganistan (about 7 trillion!) our best competitors, like China, benefitted both from our companies investments and our excessive military spending to protect Israel (after all, Irak and Israel, as well as the the so-called “Arab string” – a hybrid war) was not even close to our national interests. We’re about to witness big changes in the world leadership, and it will further undermine our standard of living because up to 20% of it is due to the role of our banking and currency system in the world economy (we transfer about that percentage of our economic burden to the world shoulders). With its loss, we will have but say a merry goodbye to many things we’re accustomed to.
So while supporting Trump’s tax policies hoping that they will revive the economy, I’m very critical about them, and for a good reason: a) it would have been much better to encourage new investments into plants rebuilding (modernization), opening new factories (innovation) and promoting the return of overseas production home, giving these cuts only to such businesses, instead of giving it uncontrollably to everyone. There’s no guarantee that big corporations will do what is necessary to the country. They might continue doing what they were doing.
If Trump imposes the tariffs and other costs with the importing of products along with the lower tax rate, it will be beneficial for companies to return to the US. That is what Trump has set his sites on for the rebuilding of and bringing jobs back to America.
It’s too late because: a) the world economy, due to that sadly known “globalization” which had been promoted by our corporations, is so tightly interlinked that from such actions we might gain as much as lose. – Other producers might impose the same in response. So think about Boeing Co., our petro-chemical giants, banking, software companies, etc, and how much they might lose. Besides, the conversations about relieving the dollar from its role on international markets is on the table for a long time, and Russia is pushing this agenda step by step… b) Before I go to my final statement, I would like to ask you whether you know about the following things: how much steal, cars, for example, are produced by the US versus China… I will anticipate and tell you: the USA produce about 80 million tons per year versus almost one billion tons of steal by China. Cars now: 12 millions by the US produces, and 25 billion by China! You might laugh and say they are inferior or of a lesser quality. That’s true, but Chinese are not sleeping: after the quantitative stage comes the qualitative one. And it’s already coming.
The solution, if it exists? – Not the one offered by Trump, helas, because his thinking reflects the one of the last century. We have but a very narrow window, and it’s not what Trump is thinking or offering. Besides, he’s as tied by hands and feet, so to say, with big money bags as Obama, or both Bushes were. Otherwise, there would not have been any adventurous military actions that opened Russia a way to its hybrid wars around…
Not all of us in CA live in mansions or where so many natural disasters occur. CA is running many big corporations and businesses out of state and many of the few who actually pay taxes are also moving. Unfortunately many are still brainwashed liberals so the people of other states need to help them learn to think for themselves and stand strong against being overcome in the same manner CA has been. I am all for the split that is proposed which will take LA, SF, Sacramento, and the coastal counties off as the state of CA and the rest will be the state of New CA which consists of more rural and conservative citizens who currently have no voice because of the populations of the areas that would remain as CA being enough to be the voice of the state. I love CA, but not Governor Moonbeam or the politicians who have been running this state for far too long. I am looking into moving out of CA so that I can survive on my retirement income and savings and not have to depend on my children to care for me. Maybe even have a little spending money after paying the bills.
the way they wanna do it they wont have to deal with either of them.
Don’t forget, San Diego is in the same bowl as LA and San Francisco politically. That is why this year and the next election cycle we need to vote out as many Democraps as we
can.
I totally agree with that, Preston. I’m hoping the posts on this site reflect the opinions of the majority of Americans in support of the work Pres Trump is doing his best to achieve. If it is–the Dems are in more ‘trouble’ than we, or they, realize. There are always a few ‘die-hards’ that, no matter what the evidence to the contrary–refuse to admit that perhaps they were ‘wrong’ in their judgement and change their mind. If Pres Trump succeeds in his agenda–I’m wondering how ‘miserable’ those people will insist on being while living in a thriving country!! Hmm.
A better split would be East and West.
Split from the Nation.
You are forgetting about the Dem Degenerates I deal with in No Ca. I worked in East Bay over 30 years, and know more than I ever wanted to know about its dirty underbelly. I’ve seen vagrants who died of exposure removed from BART benches, and far worse.
Old monkey, you are one of ‘those’ that believe San Francisco is in NORTHERN CA! Not True! SF is in Central CA and is 400 miles from the Mexican border AND is an equal 400 miles from the OR border! That says half above and half below SF! True northern CA is full of ‘normal’ people that abhor being included with the ‘Jerry Brown’ loonies!
RIGHT ON
Here in CORRUPTICUT also.
I have always said that they certainly multiply like la cucarachas.
Stephen many of us are sick of it, but it’s too late The Latinos and illegals are too many and they are voting every election. Dems will stay forever in power in sanctuary California.
Don’t bet on it. Once Trump declassifies and releases Secret Society memo, Pelosi, Waters, Schumer will fold…Mueller, Comey…in prison. Moonbeam? Looking for job at Starbucks.
one can only hope
Moon beam and the California DOJ need to be jailed for aiding and abetting law breakers (illegal immigrants) by providing them with Free education, healthcare, food and other social benefits at the taxpayers expense.
It’s called tax the American born taxpaying citizens to pay for CRIMINALS who have BROKEN our laws to come for a better life. If those same American born taxpaying citizens break the law for a better life, they get three strikes and a lifetime behind bars.
If our leaders would enforce our immigration laws and stop providing welfare to illegal immigrants, that would stop a lot of the problems right there. Trumps being called RACIST for wanting to stop the illegal immigrants (mostly by the Democraps and illegal immigrants). We need to adopt Mexico’s Immigration Laws, they don’t provide any social welfare payments to illegal immigrants and in fact throw them in jail. They don’t allow illegal immigrants to protest or get involved in their politics. Yet non of these people call the Mexican government Racist !! If we stop giving Amnesty to these people, that also would help. Why do the Democrats place the illegals higher then it’s own citizens and people who immigrated to this country illegally, sometimes waiting years and signing a statement saying they won’t be a burden on the American taxpayers? Simple…they need the votes.
Illegals not only don’t get welfare in Mexico, they don’t get food stamps, MediCal, housing and education for their children on the backs of their citizens. It’s not just Mexico but the countries south of their too!!!
Bingo !!
I hope you all realize WHY they want so many on WELFARE!! WHEN YOU ARE ON WELFARE, YOU ARE A SLAVE!!! YOU DO NOT have the MEANS to leave this COUNTRY or do anything else you want. WHAT COUNTRIES DOES THAT SOUND LIKE??? CAN ANYONE SAY RUSSIA, CHINA, NORTH KOREA, IRAN, ETC???? YOU ALL BETTER WISE UP OR ALL OF YOUR GRAND CHILDREN, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR RACE MAY BE, WILL BE SLAVES TO THE USA!!! YOU ALL SHOULD BE KISSING TRUMP’S ASS FOR BRINGING SO MANY JOBS BACK TO THE USA, GIVING US TAX BREAKS, TRYING TO GIVE THE MAJORITY BETTER INSURANCE AT BETTER RATES, TO THE EMPLOYERS AND WORKERS, ETC!!! IT IS OBAMA THAT TOOK INSURANCE OUT OF THE EMPLOYERS HANDS, SUCH AS MCDONALD’S, SO HE COULD PUT THEM ON OBAMA CARE INSTEAD, RAISED THE COST OF INSURANCE TO EMPLOYERS BY MILLIONS, RAISED THE TIME TO DO THE PAPERWORK FOR THE INS. BY THOUSANDS OF HOURS PER YEAR, AND ON IT GOES!!! For ALL of YOU that thought OBAMA was so FUCKING GREAT, go to your HR Dept and ask how their INSURANCE WAS CHANGED UNDER OBAMA’S RULE! MY husband’s Employer is BEING FINED FOR GIVING THEIR EMPLOYEES TO GOOD OF AN INSURANCE POLICY AND NOT CHARGING THEM ENOUGH FOR THEIR PLAN, DEDUCTIBLES, COPAYS, ETC!! What GOOD PRESIDENT FINES EMPLOYERS FOR GIVING THEIR EMPLOYEES TO GOOD OF A PLAN??? NOT ONE THAT SHOULD BE IN THE USA OFFICE!! Think about what BERNIE SANDERS WANTS, EQUAL=SLAVES!!
I saw a map of the areas of the big cities that people are talking about letting stay as California, then developing the rest and turning into the 51st State of Jefferson. Seems that the people in the state are getting ready to really fight for this. Had enough.
When I grew up Stephen, few Mexican kids could speak Spanish. Their parents insistent they grow up American, speaking English.”The Class of 86″ screwed the US by bringing in millions more Illegals after the 80’s amnesty.
EVERY OTHER NATION ON THE PLANET insists that immigrants LEARN THE LANGUAGE. WHY do the libtards continue to hold the USA to impossibly laughable standards that no other nation would ever DREAM of entertaining? Even the Communist EU countries make learning the language their #1 requirement. Yes, I want the WALL, but if my President would only sign that executive order making ENGLISH the ONLY official language of the USA it would have the same effect, and would save the poor USA taxpayers TRILLIONS over the next decade.
English IS the world language, and is superior (yes, I said SUPERIOR) to every other language I can think of! Inanimate objects HAVE NO GENDER! There is no “polite” conjugation, nor any weird “singing” intonations. It uses on the average of 2/3rds fewer syllables to convey the same meaning. And so on & so forth…
good luck fruits and nuts…move your left-tard asses to a communist country.
A Middle class tax increase? Doesn’t Tinkerbell and Mickey D, (sorry McDonalds), receive a pay check? Have they checked their stock portfolios and 401K’s lately? In California’s economy is there a company that doesn’t have net earnings over a million dollars? Didn’t the god of the left, Tyrant Obama ordain a million dollars to be as little as $250,000?
If Tinkerbell and Mickey D do not like things here in AMERICA, tha Greatest Nation Evah, the way the Founding Fathers founded it; then why don’t they just go someplace where it’s already the way they like it? I hear Hell is looking for people.
Ayuh!
Apparently they missed their history lessons and don’t realize that California and the rest of this country was founded as a Republic, not a Socialized, open border, One World Order one. I think the governor has been eating to many of those magic mushrooms!!
Magic mushrooms? Preston my friend, you’re telling your age.
Ayuh!
DirtyDavey, we could fill the last little corner in hell with these f…..ing California politicians, lawyers etc.
We won’t have to. They will do it themselves!!!
Ayuh!
Can’t imagine how stupid you’d have to be to stay in Kalifornia and contribute to the idiocy Moonbeam Brown decrees!!! What a massive POS!!!!!!
there are reasons that some people stay in Ca. I stay because I have friends and family here. I stay because at this time in life I have no mort. but that hasn’t precluded me from thinking of leaving.
Some companies that are long standing stay because they also own their buildings and don’t have the costs that would incur from building new and relocation.
But it is clear that Ca. is losing business, and middle class, and importing in welfare class.
Barry I would like to leave if I were young again. Now I am old and really can’t even think about dissolving my household and moving by myself to a new place. I also have a daughter and grandchildren here. It is just not as easy as it sounds.
you and I may be similar in that regard relocation at a more advanced age is more difficult. I wish you well, and maybe we need to try and convince others that we are on the wrong direction.
I think the collective voting IQ in CA must be about 5.
you give them too much credit with your assessment of their IQ
Barry1817, think about who has the low IQ it’s people like me who live in California and have to see helplessly what is happening in my State. I hate it but people like me and believe me there are more than you think, but as the minority we have no power left. These illegals must have a higher IQ than the rest of us, because they get freebies and all we get to do is pay for them. Just look at the power Hollywood has and get away with insulting our President in the crudest ways and don’t forget the billionaires in the Silicon Valley. They have the money and power and fight against every conservative thought. The teachers and professors have fed the kids for years their extreme leftist views. Riots in Berkeley, Daca brats demonstrating and causing problems for everybody. It was actually hilarious when they went after the nut job Pelosi and shouted her down. Give them an inch and they take a mile and that is what is happening. They will turn into a violent mob if they do not get their way. What a wonderful new generation they will be. Let’s deport them with the rest of their families and than they can apply and come back the right way. Let them get their education in their own country and pay for their education and not us. People that are trying to come here legally are being pushed further back because of these lawless criminals. Breaking our sovereignty is a crime no matter what you bleeding hearts are saying.
Like the California government said, we will use the money to help off set the tax increase that is coming. …In other words they know they are going to raise the taxes on every one in the state any way…Not just the 50% from big company’s…So if your a working american citizen that may benefit ,lets say ,2 thousand dollars for the year, the government plans on taking a % of that increase…It could be 33 %…Now you add whats left of that to your taxes and the fed gets there cut…So the 33 % California grabs will go to social services…Do you get that California ? Not only are you protecting Illeagle’s you are subsidizing them also…So You,the hard working fed up citizen’s should be protesting your asses off…Get to it…
They would surely arrest any conservative protesting against the liberals. only the liberals are allowed in CA to destroy property and beating people up. I wish the national guard would come here to CA and drag these crooked politicians out of their offices. Heck hanging them would be too good for what they have done to this State.
The rich and rich corporations don’t deserve tax breaks. They should have to pay much more in taxes. So they can pay for our tax breaks for regular people who are struggling to get by.
I wonder, just how much more you’ll be struggling when you’ve driven even more job producers out of Del Norte de Mexico.
Job producers? They hire illegal immigrants and outsource every job they can.
Well, if I had to choose between sexual deviants and Illegals, I’d chose the Illegals as well. Hey! Maybe you can get emasculated Manning to run for office there!
and think Amazon is going to be stupid enough to bring their new HQ to this state. They must be dreaming.
They are stupid for going to CA!
With all due respect to those who are concerned about the fate of California, I would only say you brought this on yourselves by electing, and continuing to elect, Brownieites to your government. Just like Washington state, where we live, the state government is controlled by the coastal cities that have the greatest concentration of population. Sadly, these cities are just as liberal as those in Ca. Thus, voting for persons with sane fiscal, social and immigration policies is a waste of time. Only progressives, whatever that means, are elected.
Just look at our national Senators and most reps. Patty Murray was once voted the third most ignorant person in the Congress. Nothing she has done has changed that ranking. Maria Cantdowell (her real name is Cantwell) is no better. Neither is nothing more than a mindless Chuckie prop.
Hope the secession of the counties in CA is successful. We should have a similar process in WA. There is a great majority of conservative people outside the coastal cities.
This is the most “IGNORANT,ARROGANT PROPOSAL” ever put forth by “THE RADICAL LEFT FOOLS” in the State of California!! It will drive good business out of this State ASAP!! The Current CA. AG is a “WETBACK POS” that better not try to enforce his ruling to prosecute employers for cooperation with Federal Laws and ICE!! If he does, “The Citizens of this state” will “HANG HIS LATINO ASS HIGH” from a tall tree for treason and sedition!!!
Sweet! Other states will be more than happy to offer those companies a new home without taxation without representation.
Translation: Let’s take money away from the businesses and give it to the illegals and others too lazy to work.
Maybe these businesses should move out of California where the moron Governor thinks he is President of the US. I seem to remember Jerry once threw his hat into the ring only to have it thrown back out by the people. Stop all funding to this idiot in charge of the “Land of Fruits and Nuts” Have that wall make a hard right turn when it reaches the California border,
Also deport George Soros as that crazy B_____ funds a lot of these organizations that want to bring down our country.
This makes me wonder how many politicians, including the dimwit governor, are regular drug users? Gotta be their brains are fried, otherwise, how can you explain their sheer idiocy? We know it’s a regular occurrence in Hollywood, but that place has always been Fried Brain city, so no surprise. Until Calif. voters (the smart ones with intact brains!) get rid of those dimwit, left-wing, liberal DemoCRAPS, nothing will change!
In the beginning you needed to be a property owner to vote, now I would be happy that only working Citizens could vote. California wants to make it possible for illegals to vote. It’s about time for the Federal Government to step in and start to jail these traitors. Need to send them to Guantanamo……..
Well, it’s not all Californians that want that. It’s just the Socialistic, open borders Democrats (plus the recipients of welfare) that want it so they can
keep the socialists in power. We need to vote them all out at the next election cycle…more conservatives need to get away from the T.V. and go out and vote the next two election cycles.
Who cares? If those business owners and employees don’t mind the persecution of earners, why should we?
At what point do we take up arms against th criminal state? We can’t allow this crap to continue much longer.
That’s why we have the 2nd Amendment to our Constitution and is why the Democrats want to take it away. California is using the DOJ to regulate and confiscate the citizens weapons.
Is this even legal? I hope the companies get out of California and come to other states.
The Cali government is just sick! Taking YOUR money! I’d be some kinda pissed off! Too bad you can’t boycott the state.
That’s the problem with California, it’s Governor and legislature is run by left wing nuts.
All they can think about is their Socialistic, open borders, One World Order agenda. California is the #1 Poverty state if you use the Supplemental Poverty Measure that includes Cost of housing, taxes, and medical. This mental midgets want to add an additional tax on the rich (the people that provide jobs) to fund socialized medicine. Maybe they ought to quit providing Free Education, healthcare, food and other social benefits to law breakers (illegal immigrants)! Los Angeles alone spent 1.3 billion dollars last year to provide these benefits to illegal immigrants. Democrats are not fit to govern this State, they have ruined it over the last 8 years. They don’t want to govern, they want to rule over the people. That is why they want more people on social welfare programs. They also want to keep eroding our 2nd Amendment rights using the DOJ as a weapon to regulate/confiscate our weapons and ammunition. These Democrats need to be voted out of office over the next couple of election cycles.
Californication will be looking like the people of N. Korea, Africa, Venezuela, or some other country from starvation. While the governor and the elite will be raking in trillions enjoying their steaks & champagne, booze, chocolate covered strawberries, etc….. It appears with them keeping on voting them in to office it won’t be long they will be homeless while illegals and Moonbeam, Piglosi, etc will be living high off the hog and laughing all the way to the bank.
You are 100% right on this! I’m so thankful I don’t live in CA!
Watch these companies leave California
Would be best if a massive earthquake removed most of CA. Yes I know many innocent people will die but they have been voting for years so they get out or die. And never rebuild it.
These two assemblymen, McCarty and Ting in the California legislature sounds like thieves….members who do things like this are affecting the state; making it undesirable as a place to live for many of its people. The collective mindset of many in the legislature is such a hunger for votes it promises all kind of goodies; leaving the working taxpayer to fulfill its promises.. Let’s see, less than 50% of the population in California pay taxes. With the antics of the Governor and others at the helm, they are going to lose many more people. Then, who will support these mindless parasites? The politicians who are setting up sanctuary cities for criminals; are not deserving of being in that position. They are putting their constituents at risk and are breaking the law.
Maybe the hollywood crowd will pony up the money needed. Just ask them they buy into all the ca BS.
I bet Houston would have something to say about that. Oh, and the whole state of Florida. Even Louisiana hasn’t recovered from Katrina. California, enjoy your weather and shut the f… up.
Time for CA businesses to “VAMOOSE”!
California is so large it’s hard to manage. If we can have a N and S Carolina/Dakota, we can have a N and S California.
Let it be said that, “A sore loser is really a LOSER”. Be that said about the DUMoCRAPic FARTY( because it REALLY STINKS), & the california DUMoCRAPS, including the governor, mayors, city counsels,& state & federal legislators. They are all plotting to implement a COUP D’ ETAT to overthrow our government, trash the CONSTITUTION, DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, BILL OF RIGHTS, & turn us into a european style SOCIALIST form of government. If you are a DUMoCRAP, or a DUMoRAT you are aiding & abetting TREASON. Enough said.
Bernard you are so right and they clothes themselves in this big hearted cloak of kindness when they are nothing but evil and self serving. They are dumping on us who work and pay taxes.
These socialists won’t be satisfied until all businesses have left for greener pastures. All Californians who believe in socialism stay, the rest of you leave. It’s a social experiment. We are watching with great interest.
Californians are already Uprising against their own state government they are running their state like a communist country these liberalist hacks need to go
sooner or later this country going to need all that money back
Dont have to look too far for a SH__ HOLE country or state, CA fits the description !
Damn those people are stupid. I mean everyone in the state because they keep electing them.
I feel really bad for the hardworking honest LEGAL residents of Cali. So many liberal sponges to deal with. Please get i volved and do your best to imleach and make your voices heard. We conservatives are outnumbered but truth , wisdom, and hard work will ultimately prevail.
California can keep on doing this kind of 💩, and they’ll loose more and more businesses. Us in the other States we’ll take those companies.
There are plenty of other States that would appreciate the jobs that those companies would bring. Plus the State taxes would be lower anywhere else. That would be hilarious if all the big companies suddenly packed up and left California. That would be a big wake up call.
If they were really concerned about middle class working families they would stop making them pay for the money illegal aliens mooch from the state coffers!
They want us to pay for these criminal illegals because they are their most loyal voters. There are more of them now than the rest of us.
The political system needs an upgrade. I say if they get nominated for issues to get elected AND they don’t follow through in reasonable time, they are FIRED! And, if the 3 strike rule works in crime, 3 strikes and you are banned from politics and go get a REAL JOB!
They have put in protections over the years that we can NOT touch them ,unless there is good cause . That is why they went all out on Moore without proof and that kind of thing has to stop . Cosby is another one . We need laws that the accuser has evidence and a court case before going public and if they lose they pay the bill for both sides .
That is why they hate President Trump so much – he is NOT one of them. The story out today about Mueller involved in a cover-up of the 9/11 attacks. The left has long maintained that Bush was involved in a cover up of what really happened that day. If you remember we listened for 8 long years as Barry blamed everything wrong on Bush. Now all of a sudden the Bush’s Clintons and Barry are good friends? They are circling the wagons to keep the outsiders and public from knowing what the hell has been going on. You will also notice how damned wealthy all of these corrupt people have become – in so called “government service.” There also seems to be some kind of cover up regarding the massacre in Vegas.
Mike, it was him or Hillary. Now Hillary would be making policies out of a jail cell, but at the time the economy wasn’t exactly doing well and we needed a financial mind. Yes, he tweets, toots, gets made fun of, but the economy is doing as good as it can for what he can get done without the rest of the idiots not backing it. Bill Maher thinks he knows everything wrong with him, but Trump was voted in by MAJORITY vote. Bill Maher also publicly belittled religion in his movie, why doesn’t anyone complain about that? And if robotics gets much bigger (and it will) and outsourcing increases with an over-populated America, well, it’s over. And voting in a new president won’t be able to solve that or global warming.
I live in upstate NY and other than the major metro areas we would be a red state. We here in NY are expiriencing the same aftershocks. Remember we have Adolf Cuomo and Vice-Chancellor Schumer trying to get their hands on OUR money.
The Democrats are flushing California down the crapper. They will soon have no jobs and no one to tax. But hey on the bright side they will have a $15/hr minimum wage – but you may have to have a PhD in order to get the job.
What needs to really happen is to turn the course of the wall and give California to Mexico, just cut the worthless State right out of the United States, because they are not United in any form of the word, cut all sources of Federal funding to them and let them become Mexico and they can pay for the wall blocking them out 100%. Really who needs them, not America, they are unable American.
Illegal aliens and Democrat politicians need that money!
I do know better and the state is run by half-cocked communists!!
WHAT ELSE COULD YOU EXPECT FROM THOSE IN THE LAND OF FRUITS AND NUTS?
So, they want more welfare for dead beats that refuse to work, and illegal immigrants, instead of pay raises for those actually working and contributing to their economy. Go figure.
It would a smart move on the businesses to move out of California and let the state fend off the wolves howling at the capitol! They better be careful before they chase the businesses out!
If I was Trump, I would close down all the military bases and give incentives to businesses and business owners to relocate and cut all federal aid that goes to California, then let them see how poor folks live!
The liberals here just implemented a new fee added to County Recorder Offices effective 1/1/2018 that is a “go-around-” of Prop 13 passed in 1978 to limit how much the state could raise property taxes per year so if you are a homeowner and want to buy, sell, transfer your property, in order to get it recorded to protect your or a banks interest, dependent on the Document to record fee went up Min. of $75.00 to a CAP of $225.00 under the Senate Bill 2 – Affordable Housing and Jobs Act. — with funds placed in AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND- which basically is Section 8 Housing (there’s no jobs to it)– welfare recip. including immigrants. My wife and I discussed the day that the Tax Reform was signed, wondering how soon Sacramento and Moonbeam would figure how to siphon off any Federal Tax advantage both business and “WE – the little PEOPLE” could possibly have from the reform. Now I know, two weeks. We have soooo many dumb voters who look at their ballot, didn’t do their home work , think the Header sounds good and put a mark in the Yes [X] box.
Exactly what charge would they use to arrest those who use E-verify; or any other means to report illegals, as far as stealing federal tax breaks, I think there is a charge there. These ideas sound like the ravings of a drunken liberal politician who is about to crash and burn!
Who knows,maybe California will be able to get a couple billion dollars from Mexico? NOT. Mexico’s leaders biggest joke ( IS ) CALIFORNIA…..
I don’t understand how a few people can be elected into our Gov. then just take a piece of California and say well we are going to do what we want and you cant stop us. They are breaking laws and harboring illegals. Throw their asses in jail!
You can educate the ignorant, but there is no fix for stupid.
We departed S. CA in 1993 for Spokane because of the clear onset of this very problem. Upon our arrival in Spokane, the general city had a population of 125,000. Now we have grown to almost 500,000+ with California license plates all over the streets. The City of Spokane Valley is home to numerous “former” CA. businesses. Our neighbor, Post Falls, ID is filled to capacity with CA plates and new homes. Needless to say, CA. has lost these prime income producers and we have gained quality folks.
Washington is FULL of leftist assholes. From Kkkommiefornia.
California will be on the path of destruction like Illinois – taxing the jobs right out of their state! Look @ the mess Chicago is in – that is why IL is turning to low wage immigrants to save them! Wake up America!
Time to get rid of jerry ” dummy ” brown , mccarthy and all of those stupid brain dead demobastards that are trying to turn California into a socialist run state, where the citizens have lost the US Constitution and our Bill of Rights, such as that Jackass gavin newsom wanting to take away every citizens’ guns and tax the hell out of us !! Vote against gavin newsom when he runs for governor or you will lose your guns and your rights to protect your family and yourself . Time for all of those America hating idiots to be kicked out of office !
We’ll have to kill them ALL in order to get anywhere.
THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNIST AT WORK!
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Oh, yeah, this is going to work out great. The few reasoning, conservative, normal people better start packing.
The California government don’t care about the genuine citizens, all they care is about the illegal immigrants and their needs. Now they’re trying to cut of the Tax Reform? What’s wrong with the California citizens? It seems they would try fighting for what they deserve. The Tax Reform would be a tremendous access for everyone. Do they hate money?
Come to Texas. You are welcome here.
California need to secede from the U.S. and become part of Mexico, then they can deal with The Mexican corrupted government.
Yes, America can really afford to lose the biggest tax revenue contributor. Hope the wife is in charge of your household.
One of the best things I did was to leave the sh*thole California! Lived in Southern California for 22 years and voted Democrats. Then one day I said to myself “I pay too much for state tax, sales tax, property tax, parking, groceries are expensive, gas price is almost $5/gal etc.” There’s only so much you can amuse yourself with Disneyland and Universal Studios. Sold my home and moved to Nevada. Much happier! Lower cost of living, bought a twice bigger home and newer, too. Best of all, NV can balance its state budget and the governor is a Republican. I registered myself an independent and voted for Trump! Whoohooo! Hasta La Vista, Californicators! Your state debt is $425,000,000,000 and still growing. Poor people have been voting for DemocRATS for 50 years, and they still remain poor. Some people just don’t get it.
So, are you STILL a Dumbocrap?
Why is the Gov. voted in if so many Calif. hate his politics? They don’t call him Moonbeam because they like him.
Gerrymandering, fraud, importation of third world ant-brained morons, etc. They now want to make it openly legal for illegals to vote.
Pres Trump shud call their bluff, and have some of these so-called leaders put in jail.
Kim Chee Un should nule Sacacrapmento when the “legislature” is in session.
Pappy450 – You have described a majority population in CA….. the normal people who don’t live in SF, LA, SD and looney Hollywood. The millions and the entitlement-hopeful in the mega-cities control the ‘normals’!
If California does split let’s rename that state what it really is, “Dumbfuckistan”! I’m surprised all the decent people in the medical fields and law enforcement haven’t moved out of there yet. What a horrible state governed by deranged individuals.
No, asshole, it’s a wonderful state, infested by MORONS and CRIMINALS FROM ELSEWHERE. Much like yourself.
Bravo for these civic-minded assemblymen, who take seriously their mission to serve the people above giant multinational corporations.
California under Jerry Brown has already found an effective formula for a booming economy that also works for ordinary people. They led the nation out of Bush’s Great Recession.
You’re INSANE.
And you’re obviously a Russian bot or troll.
And you’re obviously a Soros bot or troll.
I’d know nothing about Soros if not for you right-wingers so obsessed with him.
Prove it.
It seems only people with SMARTS are speaking on here. In Pa. we have a LEFTIST senator, Casey & a RINO senator Toomey. Lou Barletta, a TRUE CONSERVATIVE, is running against Casey. Let’s hope the Wilkes-Barre, Scranton voters can tell the difference between GREAT(BARLETTA) & B A D (Casey). Now is the time for us BLUE COLLAR VOTERS to get on the ballot. People are sick of the 8 years of Barackass Obamahole & his DUMoCRAP cronies. Can’t people see the Socialist,oppressive, racist agenda??? The promotion of fraud, murder, lies,& cheating??? The unions, media, foreign influence(George Soros), the entertainment industry, & sports moronic assholes are promoting the DUMoCRAPic agenda.Oh! Progressive Insurance is a George Soros company. Well????
Watch out for Democrat “rape” accusations against Barletta.
Maybe there will be an earthquake & calacrapofornia will slide into the GREAT DEPTHS of the Pacific Ocean. WOW, WOW,,,what a burden would be lifted from the U.S.of A. taxpayers. Let’s get 50 million people to jump up & down on the San Andreas Fault.
Moron.
So when are all the Business Owners Going to Close up shop and Leave California and leave Hollywood to pay the bills seeing as Hollyweird will Benefit big time with the new Tax Breaks. So know Blowhard Brown and the Boys are not only driving business out they’re going to rob them coming and going and talk about Stupid if you help the Feds we’ll arrest you and through in Jail but if you Don’t Cooperate with the Feds they’ll arrest you and Through in a Federal Prison Boy-O-Boy Big choice isn’t it. Another Socialist Bowel Movement Perfectly Executed where is the TOILET PAPER oops something they may be fighting over in the the near Future.
Trump betrayed us too. Allowing the Daca to get amnesty is outrageous. It will entail many millions more since they are allowed to bring their spouses and other kids come to America that are still in their country of origin. How did we get from 800 thousand to 1.8 millions? I can’t support this. The people that are waiting to come here legally are also being screwed. Shows you that lawlessness is okay when committed against the American people. When this is done it will be more than 30 new millions that are coming and taking our jobs and free services.
REALY???
MANY BUSINESS WILL BE GO ANYWHERE,BUT CALIFORNIA. THE GOD BEAT THEM. THE FIRST THEY HAD
DROUGHT,FIRE,HEAVY,HEAVY RAIN,MUDSLIDE AN NEXT WILL BE A BIG,BIG EARTHQUAKE.
This sounds like the story my son found yesterday. Guy wants know if his steel-toed work boots will stop a bullet. So he fires his pistol at his foot with the boot on! Fortunately the bullet went between his big toe and second, causing minor damage…as opposed to taking his toe off. The epitome of stupid, just like the left in Cally.
Why are Jerry Brown and all the other Washington traitors seemingly untouchable? Keep praying for President Trump as he continues to wade the swamp. The Khazars of the Babylonian Talmud own everything and are very dangerous mofos.
Everybody on this site, listen up!, Please ‘pray’ for Trump. This ‘crazy bunch society’ is out for blood and we need to support Trump by any means. Praying may be the most powerful tool we have against this ruthless gang! Please do this!
The California government is not doing anything good for their citizens,but a hell of a lot
for the illegals.
Like what – schooling that’s about it.
Logic leave California
If you can afford it MOVE !!
Let the fault line slide them into the ocean….
If you had a brain you’d know Cal is riding NORTH.
That is, the Pacific plate is moving “up” the coast, not away from the North American plate, at a rate of dozens of millimeters
https://www.livescience.com/32140-will-california-ever-fall-into-the-ocean.html
Any individual, or company, that isn’t making plans to get out of commiefornia, is downright stupid.
When are all of you Americans who live in California going to wake up and realize that you have lost the state? Over half of the people that live there are either illegal or on welfare and none of them support free Americans except to the extent that they can steal what you buy. If you own a business, move it out of the state. If you are a working citizen, look for another place to live and work. There is no reason for good Americans to stay in communist California. As for cutting the state in two, how many times has that been tried and failed already. I know of at least 4 attempts that were defeated by the liberals in the SF Bay area and LA. Their political power is greater than all the rest of the state combined. I suppose that you could hang on, hoping for a miracle, but why?
It’s obvious that you don’t live in California. It is painfully obvious to every conservative Californian.
I used to live in California, I grew up in San Jose. I got out of there 16 years ago and would never go back.
Moonbeam McSwine must have dollars to support his illegals as they are the future voters for the democrats. From where is he going to get the dollars? From we the middle class tax payers.. But we are to think it will come from the tax benefits of the corporations. All the corporations have to do is pass the cost of doing business down to us, the consumer.. So McSwine some of us know that When you tax business and corporations, the tax is passed down to us, the consumer (middle class)
The only beneficiaries are the freeloaders which includes all of the illegals and dreamers you love so much.
California is very complex at best. Take a look at the people who they have put in government, Maxine Waters ( a real jewel), Adam Schiff (sees a colluder under every chair), Feinstein (she can’t decide on anything) and then there is Nancy Pelosi (make America white again??? or we have to read it to know what’s in it. or a $1000.00 is crums)
Folks with people like these no wonder California is so screwed up.
And there is Jerry Brown.
Those businesses that they are targeting should give notice to the State via Public Media that they are planning to movie out of state and will terminate all positions, but those employees in California can reapply and be given preference for employment in the new state. That will send a stong message to the state and its citizens that enough is enough and fascism is not conducive to economic growth.
california should tax welfare , thats 35% of their population
No sting Ting. How’s this for unconscionable, picking the taxpayers pocket while your state falls into shambles. Infrastructure collapsing, the place so overrun by vermin illegals that even the rats are complaining about the competition, an educational system that gives stupid a leg up and politicians so radicalized that even V.I. Lenin would have a hard time, like the rats, keeping up.
This IS Socialism, Soviet style Tyranny, about as Anti-American as it gets.
Any Government Politcian NOT following the LAWS OF OUR COUNTRY (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OR IMIGRANTS) SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE AND THROWN IN JAIL FOR TREASON which is EXACTLY WHAT IT IS!!! They are LAWMAKERS that DON’T THINK that OUR LAWS should BE OBEYED??? WHAT THE F*CK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE????
Well, another step down into the cesspool, as the companies who are still here ditch this despicable state.
Just a word for those in California who don’t agree with the way things are going in all aspects of life there. Thoroughly cleanse your mind and body of all you know and think before moving out. Otherwise, stay there. We don’t need you elsewhere, Arizona for sure, throw in the rest of the western states except Oregon/Washington, they are halfway down the tubes already much like Ca.
I guess some companies will be moving out of California and relocating to the United States !!! LOL
California is already in enough trouble financially, overtaxing the people, and in crimes. Now the bastards in the government want to steal Trump’s tax break from the people. What a kick on the a– for the working class. The dream from the hard core Democrats in California is to bring in more millions of Illegals and give them the rights to vote Liberal,so the state government can be run by Democrats every four years.
“From Top Businesses” it says.
Assemblymen Kevin McCarty and Phil Ting must have IQ’s well below 50, to think the California Business is going to stand by while they and Governor Moonbeam ass rape them for more money, to cover more entitlements for the poor and oppressed…. I think they are intentionally trying to drive business out of the state. Get these idiots out of office…. They have no clue, as to what drives our economy here in California. Who voted for these morons?????
Off with the demodumbos head. You cannot make a poor man rich by making the rich man poor
This will give the Democrats more money to spend on the Illegal Aliens that already infest their state making the largest Welfare State in the Union. Three cheers for Gov Brown and his Liberal Socialist Government
Maybe the leftists in Silicon Valley will finally get behind Trump. I know they liked the Tax Cuts. I am sure they are doing something illegal, and this is just a lot of hot air bluster from the Demorats.
California taxpayers should be asking themselves one question. Why is Nancy Pelosi kicking and screaming about having to pay her “fair share” in property taxes. She owns 3 multi-million dollar mansions and is furious about having to pay her share – she sure expects the millions of Californian’s who live in much more modest homes than hers to pay their share.
California has turned communistic and their leaders are communistic and they think they are a country all of their own making not a state. Actually they are following the leader of Venezuela and their people are leaving which means in the next survey of who has the most people California will be missing people who can legally vote…There are going to be changes coming to California and they are not going to like it.