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Democrats Prepare to Assume Role of “Obstructionists”
Posted On 27 Dec 2016
For eight years – or at least since the 2010 midterms – we’ve heard that Republicans in Congress have no interest in actually running the country or proposing legislation. No, their only purpose was to sit on Capitol Hill and oppose anything that came from the desk of President Barack Obama. That was it. If they happened to do anything else in the meantime, it was purely by accident. They were anti-government, racist obstructionists who were harming the country.
And now Democrats are preparing to follow that example to a T.
Their first big foray into obstruction will likely begin immediately with the Senate confirmation hearings. On Thursday, 16 Democrats in the Senate drew a line in the sand, demanding that no committee hold a vote on any of Donald Trump’s Cabinet nominees until they have passed an FBI background check, submitted a financial report with the Office of Government Ethics, and complied with “reasonable requests for additional information.”
Thanks to their own rule changes, though, Democrats will only be able to do so much as the minority party. When Republicans were filibustering in 2013, Sen. Harry Reid made it so Cabinet nominees could be confirmed with a simple majority. Now that Republicans have that majority, Dems will have to get at least four of them on their side if they want to block one of Trump’s picks. They can make a lot of noise and they can drag these hearings out for longer than necessary, but their power is limited.
Nominees like Rex Tillerson, Betsy DeVos, and Jeff Sessions may give Democrats their first opportunity to fight the Trump administration, but they will probably save the knock-down, drag-out wars for the new president’s legislative agenda. Trump and the Republicans are moving forward with a brand new tax code, the repeal and replacement of Obamacare, and many other measures that will be met with liberal resistance.
In a message to House Democrats last week, Nancy Pelosi called on her caucus to do everything in their power to prevent Republicans from scrapping the Affordable Care Act. She declared January 14 a “national day of action” for progressives, marked by nationwide protests against the new administration.
You don’t need to have a razor-sharp memory to remember how the media treated Republicans when they were standing in the way of Obama’s agenda, so it will be fascinating to see how that coverage changes as the two parties swap roles.
Utterly predictable, but fascinating nonetheless.
Calling Harry Reid….Calling Harry Reid….Hey Weasel this is SCHMUCKIE SC HUMER , you Moron, thanks for Putting through that Miserable rule of the NUCLEAR OPTION …..You made it Impossible to Obstruct anything after all Thanks a lot IDIOT!!!
Yep, Harry, Karma can be a real bitch! What goes around, comes around, you traitor!
That DUMBASS forgot ” ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES”
and besides the Little Vindictive SNAKE is STUPID! Typical progressive Liberal IDIOT……and 23 are up for r- election in two yrs most in TRUMP RED STATES….
Obama and the Dem’s have given their consent and stamp that Trump can use “executive actions.” They can’t say a word.
Reid the Idiot along with the FUBAR DUMMIEC RATS gave the GOP the Gift of a Lifetime ‘ THE NUCLEAR OPTION”
Yay! Ain’t it grand.
OH yeah!! The Gift that keeps on GIVING…..and drives the FUBAR Progressive party of MORONS to Really go OFF the RAILS!!!
They don’t have to give their ‘consent’ and/or ‘stamp’.
WOW, some of these posts sound like they (Dems) are taking the street hood fights/guns from the streets to the inaguation.
My Guess is that they Won’t be up for Re-Election for Long, and it Couldn’t Happen to a More Disgusting Group of Weasels…The Swamp is About to be Drained, and They Will Flush Nicely…
those 22 from So called Senators (D) from RED STATES better start getting LOUD AND CLEAR MESSAGES from their Voters about making RESUMES for “OTHER” form of Employment as Compost makers at which they EXCEL
Also, don’t forget, “We won, you lost! Get over it!” Karma can really be a B*tch, can’t it?
OH yes!! Karma comes back to WAD their Lacy panties cause crap flow reversal and CLOG their brains .. a real B*tch!!!
The only places Hillary won was in the highest crime and illegal populations areas. IF – she actually won, I’m not convinced.
Should we be totally surprised fater some precincts scheduled for recounts were found to be so CROOKED that MI, Pa stopped that Farse!…. and it may also show HOW OBama the Failure won his second term
Exactly. Wins California by 4 million votes and loses the rest of the country by 1.5 million. That’s not counting the millions of illegal votes cast. Yet the left wants Americans to believe California and New York should decide our elections . We are a Republic not a democracy. The people in each State shall have a say in who is our president . It’s why we have an electoral college. Just because you have more people in your state than 5 other states combined doesn’t mean you have more voice than those other states. Your advantage is in the electoral vote reflective by the popular vote in your state. I wish the left would stop with this popular vote crap. When the outcome suits them, they don’t protest. They would gladly trade the Constitution for the Communist Manifesto. The left is dangerous to our Reoublic. The enemy within.
So tired of this “We won, you lost! Get over it!” BS You did win and we are so over it….. Speaking of Karma – just be ready for the ultimate Karma….when that fool Trump is impeached. We’ll see how cocky you are then…
Hope you are ready for a war you won’t survive. I’m waiting for you.
Go stroke your gun if it makes you feel batter lunatic
HE MIGHT STROKE HIS GUN UP YOUE A##S
hehehe….yer funny right thar
You like to call names? Do you really believe this site is secure? In no more than 20 minutes, I can know who you are and where you are. So, don’t chew on more than you can swallow.
yawn…… your bore me….
But for the record……just because Trump gets impeached (for his own sleazy reasons) is not excuse to call for anything let alone “war”…..so he happy he won….and be content when he is gone as well…
Well, Obamy was good in one way. He was the best gun salesman ever! I am proud of him for that. I, because of him, and many others are well armed now!
I have even learned by experience that the arrival of an A-ged Okie woman with a gun scatters the wrong-doers instantly!
Stop drinking the cool add…
Joan…..it is crystal clear to me….you have been immersed in the Trump koolaid for far too long……you have lost all perception of reality.
If Trump WERE to be impeached, you would get Pence! You would rue the day!
Your convoluted, long moniker shows you to be a very fearful person, and that you are running scared!
The Trumpsters will only hurt you in that we will bring this nation alive again. Calm yourself–no need for you to hide!
Mary…I agree with you on one point….Pence is one scary MFer…..in the sense that he would bring “America” in to the darkest of Orwellian ages….such that I doubt any of you Trump supporters would be thrilled either. So hopefully it does not come to that…..but Trump is on the impeachment train full speed ahead and it might be hard to stop. Get ready for George Orwell’s America……with Pence in charge
My bet is on Trump that he will cover all bases that might even resemble a legitimate reason to try to impeach him.
And, after the elections in 2018, there will be few there who would want to impeach him! Lol.
Oh Mary….so naive….impeachment can come from Republicans as much as it can from Democrats…. 😉 And if you think Trump will cover all bases….then you clearly have not been listening to him…
They don’t have to work at being obstructionists or anti American, its in their DNA!
So how does that differ from what the Republican party did for eight years? I’m registered-Republican since 1980 and Democrats or Liberals regardless are just as American as you and I. You don’t decide who is more or less American. We are all Americans just with differing views. You’re just incapable of respecting that silverbackV.
There is nothing to respect. Democrats, liberals and RINO’s are not worthy of respect. They might says they are Americans, but it takes more than chin music to make a person an American.
The left is the worst of America. Just the last 18 months of the run up to the election, the after election behavior of the left with the riots, threatening of the electors and their lame street media lies and propaganda rules them out from being American. They are anti-American and anyone who supports any of their activities is anti-American Hell even the supposed leader of our country is anti-American . He has proven that throughout his sorry life. Don’t get on here and cry that we are all American and just have different ideas. Why don’t you tell that to the college profs and staff who continually berate students for having a pro-America belief. We are not all Americans. Unfortunately citizenship doesn’t compute to love of country in the leftist socialist , communist sphere. They constantly show utter disdain and hate for this country . Admire such dictators as Castro, Chavez, Mao and condemn Americas great men of our country. No we are not all Americans . Our very actions and our words will define us as Americans. The lefts definition of American, is UN-AMERICAN.
The left are not American; they are Communistic!
Obama didn’t like it because republicans controlled congress so he decided to go it alone without constitutional approval. The separation of powers would not have allowed him to pass bad policy so he chose to unconstitutionally pass bad policy without the legislative branch. He ruled for 8 years and himself went out of his way to obstruct Congress from doing their job as clearly defined in our constitution . If you were an American you would agree. But since you are not then Mr. Trump will have to come in and cancel all of Barrack Obamas edicts with his bloody pen. Live by executive order, die by executive order. Barrack OBAMA has been lawless and dangerous. He has in 8 years set the world on fire. From the Middle East to America, his hands have touched. He is responsible for Russia’s taking over the Ukraine, rise of ISIS in 34 countries including our own, breaking peaceful relations with Israel since the 1957 agreement, dividing this country along racial , gender, and sociology economic grounds, saddkelimg Americans (who have to pay for theirs and others health insurance) with unsustainable costs with low quality care. Yeah tell me how American this failure has been. What’s sad is this is what he had in mind since day one of his presidency. He is no American and by the sounds of it , you are not either. Being American requires knowledge, respect and faith in and sacrifice for this country . Really sad that so many millions have none of those qualities when it comes to being American Sadly, this president is your standard of what being American means.
Thank You, I agree with your post. You are spot ON.
Barack Hussein Obama the arrogant Blowhard’s mind set was to abolish this once great COUNTRY. He Oblowhard is a worthless, Liar-in-Chief, unfit for the job he was supposed to do. Not a leader for good, “it’s ALL Been BAD” Should impeach the liar. Tar and Feather him and run him out of this Country on a rail. He is one worthless human being.
Your opinion is, frankly, not worth an awful lot.
I simply cannot understand why anyone would go to the trouble of becoming president in order “to abolish this once great COUNTRY”. I also don’t get the emphasis on country.
More people voted for the “worthless, Liar-in-Chief” (twice) than voted for Donald Trump. You have had 8 years to impeach the President, but – funny thing- no one has found any grounds. In fact, Obama’s tenure has been entirely scandal-free. Would you like to share with us who you think is a better human being?
When I was in grade school our teacher had the class read a short story entitled ” Man Without a Country”. Based on your comment I think maybe you should try to find it and read it then maybe you will understand the importance of “COUNTRY”. i still clearly remember the phrase ” Be there a man with a soul so dead who has not to himself has said ” This is my home, my native land””
The story was, as far as I can see, written to drum up support for the Union side during the Civil War. It was the author’s conceit that Nolan would spend his life longing to know about the country that had so cruelly banished him to exile on the high seas, a psychologically improbable outcome.
Scandal Free…? You’re joking, right..? Or maybe you have chosen to forget Fast and Furious providing weapons to Mexican narcos..?
Or sending Susan Rice around to LIE about Bengazi…?
Or using the IRS to punish political opponents…?
Or failing to provide the extra security Ambassodor Stevens repeated requested…?
Or sending DNC operatives to Israel to sabotage the election of Benjamin Netanyahu…?
Or working behind the scenes to help get a UN resolution against our ally and only democracy in the Middle East, Israel…
I could go on, but you have chosen to be blind, deaf and dumb.
If ignorance is bliss, you must be ecstatic…!
Personally, I would not describe any of the above as scandals.
Fast and Furious was a well-meaning attempt to track guns which didn’t work out very well.
Susan Rice gave out the information that was available at the time. No deliberate lies
The IRS has a duty to look into unwarranted tax-free status. Political entities do not qualify.
Requests for additional security for the mission in Benghazi were denied, possibly because House Republicans had cut the budget.
“sending DNC operatives to Israel to sabotage the election of Benjamin Netanyahu…?” Where did you get that idea?
The only scandal involving the UN and Israel is that the US has repeatedly and consistently supported Israel in spite of its horrific treatment of Palestinians.
Now those statements are nothing short of wallowing in the propaganda that has been put out for those of you who want to believe it.
Your first sentence reveals your uncritical belief in DNC talking points.
A plethora of proof exists for every example I gave you, it’s there if you can bring yourself to seek the truth…
Of course it would challenge your ideological beliefs which are unsupported by fact, so the easy way out for you is to dismiss anything you view as negating your cherished liberalism…
“Didn’t work out very well”…!
That’s your take on the hundreds slaughtered with weapons provided by your government, including US Border Patrol agents…??
Sad, really sad…
Cursed is He/She who is NOT blind and yet cannot see!
right back at you. Would you like me to list some real scandals involving politicians and/or presidents other than Obama?
I was taught that to understand an issue it is necessary to analyze both sides of the coin.
When I read the biased MSM, put the evidence together and arrive at logical conclusions, Obama has a history of opposing American values. He has actively pursued an agenda that is detrimental to American security and interests.
You choose to ignore one side of the coin and only accept the propaganda of the other side.
It is people like this who allowed Hitler to gain the dictatorial power to kill millions of Germany’s solid citizens.
People like you frighten me.
Are you seriously saying that it is people like Obama who allowed Hitler to gain dictatorial power? At the same time you claim to analyze both sides of the coin.
Which values has Obama opposed? The one which says that it is OK for a handful of men (the top 1%) to own as much wealth as the bottom 90%? The one which says it is OK to discriminate against fellow Americans because they may look, think or feel differently? The one which makes it a crime to be poor? Those values?
People like me may frighten you. People like you absolutely terrify me.
Hi Liz,
You misread my comment. Hitler gained power because people were easily led. It is always so.
Ben Franklin responded explaining our form of government, “It is a republic, if you can keep it.”
Our Constitution is unique in history. Do you understand its structure, its intent to balance powers and protect a people that may not be smart enough to protect themselves?
It is based on the freedom of choice that God gave us. It only gives us the right to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of —.
We do not have any other rights.
The Bible states “the poor will always be with us.” The poor were the responsibility of the local church. When government assumed that responsibility, our society began to crumble. If you understood the intent of the Bible it would make better sense.
God loves you as He does everyone. He gives us the freedom to choose but not the freedom to avoid the consequences of our choices.
If you understand, good. If not I can never explain it to you.
Have a blessed day. I hope you receive what you most desire and it does not lead to unpleasant consequences.
It would seem that I did misread your comment. I agree absolutely that Hitler gained power because people were easily led. The frightening part is that that is exactly how Trump has gained power.
The US Constitution is unique in that it was the first (if one ignores Magna Carta). But it is not unique in today’s world.
The constitution does not give us the right to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is the word I think you were searching for; the Declaration of Independence uses those words.
The bible, and “god-given rights” have no part in the constitution and If you do not understand that, I can never explain it to you.
Hi Liz,
What do you think of this?
I am sympathetic to many folks with problems. I do not believe they have a special right that the government should be authorized to step in and create a solution.
It is our responsibility. We are not given the authority to push our responsibility on to the government. When government assumes responsibility it necessarily takes some rights of others away. As soon as the government assumes the authority to decide who has “rights,” it necessarily assumes the authority to take away the rights of others.
That power and authority is exactly the authority of dictators.
There have been “progressive” dictators, but they are rare. Our government is either a “controller” or it allows the people to control. Are there inequities? Certainly but when government controls, the inequities are always greater.
Look at government laws this way. If a law limits our freedom to choose, it is in opposition to God’s freedom of choice. Obamacare provides benefits to some but it severely limits our freedom to choose. That is the conundrum imposed by every law that limits choice.
It is not the responsibility of government to solve the inequities that life presents the world over.
The people who believe otherwise want government to assume something they themselves should shoulder. That makes them feel good but it is avoiding personal responsibility. That is a cop-out.
Some of your arguments are valid,but they are based on false premises.
Let’s leave God out of it, and just look at the known world. I agree absolutely that a law which limits choice is not a good law. So all the anti-abortion laws should be thrown out. Obamacare was certainly not intended to limit choice, quite the opposite. If people have run into problems with getting the health coverage they need, it is almost certainly the doing of the insurance companies, who have (unsurprisingly) not kept their end of the bargain underlying the Affordable care Act.
You say ” I do not believe they have a special right that the government should be authorized to step in and create a solution.” I don’t believe so either, but I do not know of any circumstances where that is the case. It is possible that you are thinking of something like allowing gay marriage. (and possibly not, but I am going to use it as an example). Marriage in the United States is a civil contract, sometimes blessed by a religion, which conveys on the couple certain rights, including inheritance, tax benefits for filing jointly, mutual health coverage and end of life decisions, and custody options. Allowing two people of the same sex to enter into such a contract is not extending a special right; it is extending the same right to everyone.
You say “when government controls the inequities are always greater.” I don’t think that is true. Deregulation of banks and Wall Street have led directly to the flood of money going to the already very wealthy. That money has to come from somewhere, and somewhere has, for the past 30 or so years, been the middle class.
Hi Liz,
Let me apologize for people who call you names. To me you
are a caring, thoughtful individual. Don’t
misunderstand, I do not agree with everything you say.
First, you believe we should leave God out of the discussion. For the first 40 years of my life, I would have agreed with you. In my last 40 years, I’ve come to the realization that God is not only real but
the creator of everything.
I’m sure you disagree but a critical analysis of the Bible proves He is who He says He is. What convinced me are the many hundreds of
times the Bible discloses future events. The only possible explanation is that
the author transcends time. Only a supernatural being could do that.
Understand that and everything else falls into place.
From your position, you disagree. I am not trying to convince you otherwise, only to explain my position. Maybe you see why I do not leave God out of
the equation. Also our founding documents include God.
But on to something else. Your husband taught you critical
thinking. (By the way, congratulations on your long, successful marriage) I first encounter it about 20 years ago when reading Richard Paul’s tomb on Critical Thinking. It made sense until I finished and reflected on it. There
is a trap or flaw, not easily seen. If the thinking is logical and well constructed, it is possible the have a flawed foundation yet meeting the criteria of Critical thinking.
I have a half dozen books on Critical thinking. Most fall
into the same trap. John Dewey father of reflective thinking, the foundation of Critical Thinking, established that trap.
Anyway, read “Asking the Right Questions” by Browne and Keeley. Their approach is the simplest, most logical I encountered.
I stop to prevent rambling. Have a blessed day. Oh, I hope
you both are still enjoying this life. It can be difficult to be alone unless we enjoy the memories.
Thank you for your good wishes. Actually this will be the fourth New Year without my husband. But I am with my siblings and my children will be around when I get home. Life is by no means miserable.
I will have a look at “Asking the Right Questions”. I think it could be very interesting.
Although I suspect there is a logical fallacy in your idea that “critical analysis of the Bible proves He is who He says He is”, but we’ll leave that for another day. Instead I will just wish you a Happy New Year.
We meet again. To realize truth requires looking openly at both sides of the coin. From our previous discussions it became apparent that was too much to ask of you.
One thing about thinking differently. I look at Obama and his followers reacting to the values of the current president. They seem radically opposed to those values. Are you saying that it is OK to accept the values of others – as long as they agree with yours? or am I missing something?
You do not frighten me. I certainly hope I do not terrify you.But I do pray for you. Remember that God loves you.
I am flattered that you remember me. I had long since forgotten you.
Do not waste your prayers on me. If God loves me (unconditionally) then I’m alright aren’t I?
Sure one should look at both sides of the coin, although in many cases the sides are not equal And perhaps you should take your own advice. President Obama has been remarkably reticent when it comes to his successor. He certainly has not incited his “followers” to react the way they have. All they had to do was look at the man and his total lack of values of any kind – except for making money – and decide that he does not speak for them.
You are missing quite a lot, but we won’t go into that.
Wrong, there are at least 13 treasons Obozo has perpetrated against America. His sole goal has been the destruction of our civil rights, our constitution, and republicans. He did not succeed, nor will the Democrats EVER run our country again. They’ve made a horrible mashup of everything they have ever attempted. Shame on you!
Unfortunately, the Democrats will eventually again run the country. Those of limited intellectual capacity and/or on the dole, will someday vote for Democrats–some of whom will be elected. In some horrible future time, we will have a Democrat President. Hopefully, in that future time, the candidate will be Natural Born as required by the Constitution and not a Kenyan Muslim refugee intent on destroying the American people, their values, and their country.
A full court press should be put on Obama, his history, the bogus birth certificate, the sealed college records, and other such records that he has, so far, tried desperately to conceal. The TRUTH needs to come out.
KARMA !
The democrats won’t be put in our white house for a very long time , IF EVER ..
OMG…how I agree with you MBounce.
At least 13 treasons? Is that right? Yet Republicans have not been able to impeach him? Why do you suppose that is? I can only think that those treasons do not exist, or that Republicans are totally incompetent. One or the other.
Destruction of civil rights? Which ones?
Obama, the illegal alien currently occupying the White House, could have been impeached at any time when the Republicans controlled the House of Representatives. However, just as when Bill Clinton was impeached for lying under oath to a Federal Court, the Democrats in the Senate would have sat on their hands and not convicted him. For those that do not understand our constitution, the House impeaches(similar to an indictment) and the Senate convicts. ONLY if convicted is the politician removed from office. SO, Obama could have been impeached, but he was never going to be convicted, so the entire exercise would have been a futile waste of time.
What would he have been impeached for? The criterion is “high crimes and misdemeanors”, which have been notably lacking from his presidency.
It’s lucky that the Republicans learned that impeachment is a serious matter and that trying to pin frivolous “crimes” on a president is, indeed, a futile waste of time.
I think even after he is out of office, he can be impeached, AND would lose his fat retirement checks! COULD even go to jail!
It was a great COUNTRY before Barack Hussein Obama the Blowhard got in the white house. Tell me just what Oblowhard has accomplished in the eight years he has been in charge. Everything he has done has made things worse, sure not better. Also anything he is ask about, says he didn’t know about it, until he heard about in the news media just like everyone else did. He is supposed to be alert and on top of things at all times, and should know about the things going on in the Country.
The one thing he did accomplish was to divide the whole Country, and mostly by race. Do you remember his apology tour all around the world? Said the United States was dismissive, derisive and even arrogant, and all kinds of things, that America did that was bad. Oh you do know he is a liar don’t you. Just check out fact check about his last State of the Union Speech, LIED 10 times in an hour, look it up
and he also said if it comes to conflict between Americans and the muslims, he would side with the muslims, can you believe that?.
He is nothing but a sorry bum he hates America, always has and always will, read the book dreams of my father, that will tell a whole lot about his arrogant’s, thinks he is better than anyone.
Starting at the end of your rant, I always hope that the President is a good deal better than most. As often as not, when reviewing the candidates, I am left with the feeling, is this the best there is?
In the case of Barack Obama, the feeling was, yes, this is as good a candidate as one can hope for.
What you call his “apology tour” was not an expression of weakness. On the contrary it takes great courage to say that we were wrong. Far from making America the laughing stock of the world (as has been said so often), the rest of the world admires Obama for acknowledging that the US has not always done the right thing, and they respect him for trying to make amends.
The fact that he has a black father has indeed divided the country. Somewhat more than half do not see that as a problem (his approval rating is still 56% – which is very respectable for an outgoing president), while for others his presidency has, literally, been colored by his heritage. For the latter group, the fact that his mother was white is totally irrelevant. He is a black man in the White House, something unthinkable for the racist portion of the population.
You’re an idiot! He has so many scandals it’s unreal! Only a total moron could believe obummer is totally competent. He wanted hrc to succeed him to fulfill his agenda to wipe out Christians, whites, jews and a good portion of the black population who oppose him. Why do you think the FEMA concentration camps were built? Why do you think he ordered millions of body bags to go with them? In the beginning of his first term why did he order over a billion rounds of ammo? Why did he have oversized boxcars constructed with human shackles installed, designed to transport humans. Why do you think he’s importing muslim refugees by the thousands of which it is reported that there are over 20 terrorist camps in the U.S. Do you really think YOU’D be exempt? You mentioned your “higher education” when all they did was fill your head with a bunch of BS that you swallowed hook, line and sinker! I know because my eldest daughter got her Masters Degree and has turned her into a mush brained liberal like you with no common sense! Don’t try to convince me obummer is concerned about American values because his only desire is destroy America.
Interesting that you edited your opening sentence to read that I am ignorant, rather than I am idiot. I am neither.
But, yes, I am an infidel in the sense that I do not support any religion. On the other hand, I can offer you supporting evidence of everything that I claim. Can you do the same?
Can you supply evidence that the current president has only one desire -to destroy America and turn it into a muslim nation? Or that his AG wants to do the same?
My higher education took place partly in South Africa in the late 1960s and then in New York State in the early 1990s. However, education is a lifelong process which is not dependent on any one teacher or institution of learning. I am delighted to hear that your daughter has decided to question your close to lunatic ideas and express an informed opinion (even if you think it is no common sense mush-brained liberal ideas). The is thinking for herself.
Can you supply the slightest shred of evidence that our President has committed treason? That FEMA concentration camps exist? That boxcars with shackles exist? That he is importing thousands of muslim refugees? That there are over 20 terrorist camps in the US? That anyone filled my head with a bunch of BS?
I firmly believe that the answer is No, you can’t, but I wait to be corrected.
The proof is in the pudding! Obama has known members of The Muslim Brotherhood politically enlisted as his guidance counsellors. CAIR has been identified by the CIA, and FBI as a supporting faction to ISIS and he welcomes them… Obama supplied The Muslim Brotherhood, a terrorist organization with a dozen F-16’s. Obama’s released most of, if not all the terrorists we were holding in Cuba. Obama has released thousands of convicted criminals to be returned to the streets.. Obama has severely divided this nation racially, politically, and morally in an unprecedented manner that has divided even families.
The list is never ending! Your education is worthless if you don’t have any common sense and recognize the fact that America is the strongest nation in the world and recognize a tyrant that wants to bring it down. There is no other nation in the world that guarantees the freedoms we enjoy…none! It amazes me how many “educated ” people would choose “bondage” through socialism over the freedoms we enjoy. UNBELIEVABLE! Case in point…one of my children was a Christian who earned her Masters degree and through her college education has become a left wing extremist to the point I can’t even communicate with her. Sad! I could go on and on but I’ve said enough. I edited my original post out of remorse, apologetically referring to you as an “idiot” out of anger because of similarities with my daughter whom I still love dearly. As a 17 year veteran of the U.S. Marine Corps, it saddens me to see so many people blinded through socialist indoctrination in colleges AND High Schools to be led to believe that bondage is a better way of life.
Where do you get your information?
Which of Obama’s “guidance counsellors” belong to the Muslim Brotherhood? (I thought guidance counsellors were found in high schools, not the White House, but no matter).
Obama has pardoned many “criminals” who were incarcerated for non-violent drug offenses under draconian laws with mandatory sentences, some of them life.
The men being held in Cuba have never been tried, so no one knows if they are terrorists or not. I’m certain that their continued detention is contrary to the Geneva Convention, and the UN Declaration of Human Rights, not that the US sets much store by either document.
I wonder what freedoms you are referring to when you say that there is no other country in the world that “guarantees the freedoms we enjoy”.
I don’t get the bondage through socialism bit either, nor, if it comes to that, the socialist indoctrination you speak of.
And could you clarify for me just what makes a patriot.
Elizabeth, you obviously folow main stream media which has been posting “fake news” which even witch clinton has complained about. The mainstream media is in obamas pocket which includes all the news sources minus Fox News and a list of others. During his first tenure he even stated “Fox News is no friend of mine” because they’re telling on him. There are many conservative sites of which you are obviously aware of or you wouldn’t be debating on this site. For example, I get news from the NRA which provides a monthly report on national gun sales from statistics provided by the FBI. Our local liberal newspaper provides similar stories with opposing statistics. You know, the same ones who claimed clinton was going to win by a landslide, unprecedented in U.S. history. Her lying mouth didn’t fool the populace and the only reason she got more votes is because obama pressed to get as many illegals on the voting rolls as possible before the election.
Elizabeth, it’s obvious your mind is convinced that what’s right is wrong and what’s wrong is right . Obviously, you’ll never admit, with your higher “education” that this nation was founded on biblical principals and if God was in the hearts of EVERY citizen there would be no debating about who’s right and who’s wrong. God’s word, the Bible is the instruction manual for a disciplined society. You should know what a Patriot is, if you don’t, go back to school. It’s Patriots that sacrificed their lives to provide the whining liberals to bitch about their “horrible” lives in America. On another note, my definition of gun control is Sight Alignment, Sight Picture, Breath Control and trigger squeeze. I love my guns!
Actually, I do not follow what you chose to call main stream media. I read our local (and surprisingly neutral) newspaper. I listen to NPR and I read a variety of news outlets including The Guardian, Al Jazeera, Common Dreams, Mother Jones, and, yes, op-ed places like this one. If something seems suspicious, or outright unlikely, I follow up with many more sources. Fake news has a way of rising to the surface.
Fox News is NOT a reliable source. Nor is the NRA. I would be more than happy to analyze any piece you choose from either source, and I am pretty confident that I will be able to supply more sources which question the veracity of said piece than you can find sources to support it.
As far as FEMA concentration camps go, it was questioned by Glenn Beck when he was at Fox News questioning “what were they for?” The boxcars with the shackles was confirmed by a church member who was an active duty Marine E-7 who spoke with a civilian contractor who verified that HE was a crew member who helped install the shackles in the oversized boxcars. As far as the refugees go, conservative news sources confirmed the influx of thousands more refugees than Obama has admitted to. Which the mainstream media will not admit to that or any other underhanded thing Obama does. The BIG PICTURE is that Obama is a terrorist hellbent on destroying this nation and everything and everybody who won’t conform to the Muslim edicts. If you think you’re exempt, think again!
OMG!!!! Scandal free, she says!
Benghazi, Iran, Syria, doubled the debt, immigration, obamacare, foreign affairs, the bear summit, Israel, I could go on and on!
Maybe your not thinking of these as “scandals” but as an American I am thinking of these as scandals!
Clinton sleept around but was a pretty good president!
Obama nearly destroyed our country and was a HORRIBLE president but guess he did not sleep around! Who knows?!
We don’t even know if he was born on the U.S. or if he went to schools he SAID he went to. No documemtd, no proof, no friends, no
Perhaps we need to agree on the definition of scandal. The most common definition is:
A publicized incident that brings about disgrace or offends the moral sensibilities of society.
I would define scandal as behavior which is unacceptable to the majority. Things like sleeping with your sister-in-law/boss/boss’s wife; accepting bribes; sending pictures of your crotch to young girls; that sort of thing.
Actually we know quite a lot about our out-going President. He was born in Hawaii. He lived for a few years in Indonesia with his mother and step-father where he attended an public school and a catholic school; he was sent back to Hawaii to continue his education in an American school; he attended Occidental College in Los Angeles; and Columbia University in New York. Plenty of documents, plenty of proof, little mystery.
But no scandal.
Fist of all WE do not have to agree on anything!!! Everything that comes out of ur mouth is drivel in my opinion!
We know Nothing about Obama and we are not even sure he was born here! His birth certificate was a fake! Have you seen any of his grades? Who were his friends? We just don’t know!!!
Put ur blinders back on and live in ur delusional world right beside Obama!
He’s gone now so it’s irrelevant until the day we find out he was a total imposter!
I don’t care how u define scandal but if u can, in good conscience, believe that what Hillary & Obama did to the four men in Benghazi was not a horrendous act, u r crazy! Call it what u want, but It was a scandal of the worse kind!
The Iran debacle is another “scandal!” Fast and Furios with Holder in contempt of Congress – I would suggest to u that these are horrible scandals that this failed president foisted on the American people!
I may not have the “towering” intellect you admire but I am smart enough to know you do not not know what u r talking about half the time! Could b semantics but …
Of course we do not have to agree on anything. But, I think it is important that each of us is able to provide some sot of evidence to back up our opinions. I have tried my best, but I have yet to see any supporting evidence for your claims.
Take, for example your claim that Obama’s birth certificate is a fake. Really? What do you base that on? We don’t know his grades? Do we need to? Do you know Trump’s grades? Do you know who Trump’s friends are (if he has any)?
What did Hillary and Obama do to “four men i Benghazi”? 128 (I’m exaggerating, but not much) investigations – led by Republicans – failed to turn up any wrong-doing on the part of the administration. There were certainly errors, but no intention, therefore, no scandal.
What Iran “debacle”? Six of the world’s most powerful countries negotiated with Iran to limit their nuclear capabilities, with international oversight for the next fifteen years. That’s a debacle? Must be semantics, but I don’t see it.
One does not need a towering intellect to see these things, one just needs to look.
Glad to hear you again. You are the most constant dedicated liberal out there.
It is refreshing to have someone who continues to let us know why our country continues to spiral into the ranks of an average third world country.
Thanks again; keep up thr good work Lizzy
And thank you for your encouragement.
Well said ..
Just another worthless muslim!!
I disagree with running him out of the country…once he’s found guilty by a jury of the families of the people him and witch hillary killed….he should be hung in public alongside hrc, reed, kerry, pelosi and the long list of libtards supporting them such as soros, cuomo, bloomberg etc, etc.
Yeah I do believe you have it right, they all should be a hung, or face a firing squad.
That would much better, than running the lot of them out of the country…
Why waste precious ammo?
This is the most HONEST post I have read about Mr. Obama since his initial inauguration. Thank you for your opinion. And he was not trying to abolish the United States, he was and still continues to try to DESTROY the United States. With less than a month left in his term, I am still fearful of him.
Why? Why would any president want to destroy the country he fought so hard to lead?
Did I tell you we have Demo candidate for 2020? We have a WH Democratic candidate to beat Trump in 2020. it is New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio -perfect for the job. He is tall and therefore will be towering over Putin and other communist morons. The mayor can send his campaign envelop to day to me. I am ready to start contributing.
Very interesting. But it does not answer my question, which was, why would any president want to destroy his own country?
Did you mean Trump. Trump and many Repubs and TPs got their wives from Eastern Europe and China like Mitch; thus leaving women here without husbands. Repubs and TPs claim they are patriotic but in fact they should be sued for treason – abandoning American women.
No I did not mean Trump. I was responding to the claim that President Obama set out to destroy America.
Your comments are strangely interesting, but irrelevant.
It is Trump who abandoned you as an American beautiful woman. Trump called American women as “fat, ugly, disgusting and lazy.” That is why he went to E-Europe to look for wives.
BINGO, it is not his native country!! Remember when he said there is no more beautiful sound than the Muslim call to prayer. He also said if it came to it he would stand with the Muslims. He was raised by his father to be a muslim and he has not committed the ultimate Muslim sin, leaving Islam. The Muslim doctrine dictates it is ok and even encouraged to lie in order to further Islam. He has been living a lie since he was inaugurated, lying about his faith and having all his records sealed, he is a part of the Jihad on the USA. I am NOT alone in this belief.
Lady, he’s a filthy muslim !!!!! He hates America and wants to make it a muslim country. He wants to change everything in our country AND kill ALL white people . Where have you been?????
Where have I been? Obviously not in the insane asylum you inhabit.
Barack Obama is not a muslim, and muslims are not filthy (at least no more so than white christians)
He wants to kill ALL white people? Where did you get that idea? He’s not very good at it, is he?
Because his boss, George Soros has commanded he do just that. It has to be done to further the globalist Agenda 21 and the redistribution of wealth mandated by the globalist communist “sustainable agenda”. Believe me if you don’t believe me you will really hate the new world order they have in mind for you.
Don’t forget George Soros’s part in that plan and all the rest of the “globalists”. Thank God the world is waking up to these globalists and Great Britain started it with Brexit.
Irish, I totally agree with you.
I have never been an Obama
fan before or after he was elected!
Could you please tell me WHY he has a 55% approval rating today and so many people think he is simply terrific?
I can not think a one positive thing this man has done in 8 years!
You mentioned some of his negative issues but still did not hit on all of them either!
Yet, I hear he is the best president we have ever had!
Usually by then I am rendered speechless and useless to any further conversation.
I just don’t get it!
Do you?? ?
He doesn’t have that approval rating. Take it with a grain of salt . Common sense would tell us that half the people voted against him. That’s an approval rating of no more than 50%. Now you can figure in how accurate polls really are when you see this past election how very inaccurate they were having Hillary up by as much as 10%. Who won?? Another thing is what specific questions are asked in a poll? Are questions like Do you support Obamas policies? Or do you think OBAMA is a good speaker ? I mean the question can give you the numbers you want. The next thing is who are you polling? What is the make up ? The left obviously polls a majority left . Heck most of the polling in place is left wing. So Barrack Hussein OBAMA has good ratings from far left ideologues but then you know better. One other factor . Many people would say he is liked because they don’t want to be called racist . Seems to be the mantra anytime someone disagreed with his Policies. Personally I think his true approval rating is maybe 40%. That pretty much reflects the alt left.
Thanks for all the good information!
Trump will make America great. Obama will b gone and he, along with his ratings, will soon b forgotten!
Respect is an earned quality. Everything “O” did was disrespectful to our Constitution, thus he created his own contempt for everything our Country was founded on. He is/was an embarrassment to America and made us a laughingstock around the world. I do not believe the history books will treat him well and that will be the product of his own doing!
On the contrary, the rest of the world has a good deal of respect for Obama, and feels that he represents the better side of America.
They laugh at him and don’t even meet him when he flies to their country. He’s a joke everywhere he goes. They all know he’s a liar and coward.
True there was an incident in China when there was no red carpet. I don’t know the details.
But where has President Obama been treated as a joke? Who “knows” he’s a liar and a coward? You seem to think so, but where is your evidence?
Elizabeth Whitehouse is a troll. I had decided not to respond to him/her but you did a fine job. Someone should tell him/her to read some of the foreign newspapers to see just how ill-regarded he is. I know the Brits have lampooned him from time-to-time!
Most are what we call the “cottage industry” (they sit on their fat ass all day writing snide comments for the liberal media) or are on welfare or paid by Soros and his minions and sheeple to obstruct, riot, protest or go to their communist meetings.
Just like Trump was ‘threatening democracy’ by not accepting the election results. Until leftists lost. Then it was perfectly all right to not only not accept the results, but throw screaming tantrums, make absurd demands, waste everyone’s time and money with frivolous recounts, burn things down, riot in the streets and double down on ridiculous accusations of racism because America didn’t vote for an elitist old white woman.
HOW DOES IT FEEL YOU LIBERAL RACIST LOSER HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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I’m confused, are you actually reading my posts? Or are you a strange, backwards troll?
Many readers didn’t procede past your first sentence, Nat. I had to read your comment twice to “get it”.
Really? It seems as if at least twelve others had no problem. Hillary supporters said Trump would be threatening democracy by not immediately accepting the results of the election, then hypocritically refused to accept the results themselves. Besides I was asking him that because this was my third comment on three different sites that this person accused me of being a liberal. Which I’m clearly not. Strange to say the least. We must get the same news feeds. And he must not bother reading before commenting.
Don’t worry about it Natalie, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.!!!!!
Trump’s purpose was to say he would be critical of potential voter fraud. He sent a message that he would not rollover in the face of corruption. Anyone who says voter fraud is not an issue is an idiot. Prior to the election the feds were scrambling to dispel fraud myths and stop actual fraud attempts. The feds even admitted themselves on national TV that fraud is an issue. And considering Trump won by electoral votes versus majority, which were in face in highly populated areas, which seem to exhibit high immigration and poverty, and economic disparity between the rich and the poor, it makes me wonder what the hell anyone would have to argue about Trump’s win? As someone who has seen the election maps, you can see Clinton’s victories were isolated to the metros. And the message we all have to remember is that without the peripheral regions and farms and manufacturers, America cannot be sustained. We can’t all live the NYC lifestyle, it’s a culture of big banking corruption and poverty, high debt, and an unsustainable pipe dream projected on America by totalitarian LS like Michael Bloomberg.
Does idiocy/illiteracy run in your family, or are you simply another snowflake who wants the will of the people abrogated?
Idiot! I was supportive of Natalie’s comments!
Kudos Natalie,
You were quite plain to me. I like the way you write but not everyone likes to read. Too bad that the “gov” has been successful in dumbing down our people.
I remember what schools were like in the 1940’s before we were subjected to “rewritten history” and the “Ssssnew Math.”
Thank you. I remember too, although I was born in 1972 and was part of probably the last generation to be taught common sense, and our real history. The ignorance of the younger generation and many of the older ones, much of it deliberate and self imposed, is staggering and frightening. As is their smug, arrogant belief in their own superiority.
I work at one of the liberal snowflake havens, and the things I hear you wouldn’t believe. I’ve bitten my tongue almost off time and again. But it would take weeks, maybe months, maybe years to dispel the absolute garbage these people mistakenly believe. They are so dismally confused, yet so quick to hate, based on the lefts bizarre message of ‘tolerance’ that only extends to their arbitrarily chosen few and complete and total intolerance for anyone who disagrees with them.
I hear people wearing pounds of gold and designer clothing paying eight dollars for a trendy drink then driving away in a brand new car talking about how ‘oppressed’ they are. If that’s oppression I’d like to know where I can sign up. I cannot afford what they so obliviously take for granted. I bring my own from home, and come on these sites simply to be reminded that there are still normal, rational people out there who do not call themselves and everyone else a victim of some ridiculous imaginary thing while in reality, which they apparently have no concept of and avoid like the plague, victimizing others with harsh, unfounded hatred they learned from the real bigots, liberals.
Another reason the voting age should be raised to thirty years of age.
By then maybe they will be informed enough to make an informed decision.
I firmly believe one of the worst things that has befallen the good people of the good old USA is when we decided we didn’t need the draft any more. The draft did a lot of things, not the least of which was to teach each and every one of the people involved to cherish liberty, because when you are in the service, YOU HAVE NONE. Thus, you learn to love and cherish liberty. You are right…too many people in this country are just plain “spoiled”.
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I often wonder if Hillary and Obama would have went through hell and high water to save those murdered in Benghazi if they were all black !
The Only thing thats come out of their mouith is shi***
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Finally someone has found the real picture of the Butcher of Benghazi. I commend you on this.
The truth, (and bull$#it) will out, won’t it? This old harpy should pack up and head to Tahiti. (But would they take her)?
Hey, Cappy, Tahiti is a nice place. Did you really mean HAITI……??
Hey…could you reverse it to show she shallows it too…haha..both ways looks so nasty….kinda of like the picture of the brown spot on her vast posterior. Anyway…keep up the good work!…GOD bless America and the 82nd Airborne
or muslim
They would not “have went” through anything.
You understood the message though, didn’t you, Elizabeth?
I understood that the poorly educated do not think very logically, if in fact they think at all.
Nor do self proclaimed pseudo intellectuals like you. Right, EW?
OH…wait! You are logically challenged and so no need to strain your limited capabilities attempting an answer.
It would be utterly stupid for someone to proclaim themselves a pseudo intellectual. That’s like saying “I am not very clever and proud of it”.
However, I am clever, thanks to good genes, a superior education, and – most importantly – 38 years of marriage to a man of towering intellect who taught me how to think critically; I am not logically challenged, and I am prepared to debate you on the subject of your choosing to prove it.
Elizabeth,
You are such an intellectual snob! You are also very condescending to individuals who you feel are inferior to you in education, genes and your “wonderful marriage!!”
I hate to inform you but your husband, with all his “towering” intellect, forgot to teach you kindness, compassion, understanding and sympathy for others who, according to you, are just not as good as you are!
You sound like a miserable woman! Hang on to that husband of yours … sure he’s the only person who can stand you!!! ?
I will readily admit to being an intellectual snob, but the “inferiors” I really object to are those who will not even consider the possibility that they are living in ignorance.
I admit that I am extremely lucky to have had a gone to a so-called “good school” but I consider myself well-educated in spite of the extensive rote learning I was subjected to, not because of it.
I talked about a man of towering intellect; you translated that to a wonderful marriage. You also assume that my (late) husband “forgot to teach (me) kindness, compassion, understanding and sympathy for others”. Nowhere did I mention any qualities other than his intellect.
In fact, he was a man of great kindness, compassion, understanding and sympathy for others. If those qualities failed to rub off on me, it is through no fault of his.
But once again, you are making assumptions. What (other than an intolerance of willful stupidity) makes you think that I lack compassion and kindness?
You ridiculed someone who used incorrect grammar in their post! I don’t call that being kind or compassionate toward others who may not have had the same advantages you had. It is from there that I derive my intolerance of willful stupidity!!! Whatever ever that means??? ?
If your late husband had such wonderful qualities which you admired, why did you not emulate them?
Btw, Elizabeth, you said in your comment to me, “I am extremely lucky to have had a gone to a so called good school …”
Is that English?
See, we all make mistakes, so being an “intellectual snob” is really not a good thing to be!
You got me. The sentence you pointed out is English, but a meaningless sequence of words, brought about by changing my mind half way through. A mistake, certainly, but one I recognize and know how to correct.
The construction that started this discussion, “have went”, is not the result of a mistake; it is a not-uncommon misuse of the past tense of “to go”. Such use is indicative of inadequate instruction at school, but more so it implies that the user has seldom read a well-written book, or even a newspaper.
You, on the other hand, read stuff that isn’t there, and ignore what you would rather not consider.
I read what you said, criticized it and pointed it out to you! How I read stuff that isn’t there and ignored what I would rather not consider, is beyond my comprehension! ?
I still maintain that you are very petty when you have to mock someone’s English to maintain your superiority!
Get off your high horse and be nice! That’s the gist of what I said and if you do not comprehend that I give up!
Happy New Year!!! ?
It may surprise you to learn that I seldom leave the house without wearing a button that says “BE NICE It’s a Better Way” and that I am in the middle of a Be Nice Project to give these buttons to as many people as possible. My full slogan is “Be nice to each other, be kind to animals, and be gentle with the earth”. I am actually more concerned with the last two, and if that means I sometimes need to point out some shortcomings in the logic and presentation of arguments that are ultimately detrimental to the natural world, I will do so. I try very hard to be civil, and I maintain that disagreeing is not necessarily being nasty, superior, or mean.
Elizabeth, you an enigma!
In some of your writings you appear to be smart but the fact that you can NOT comprehend that making fun of another person’s grammar or short comings is NOT nasty, superior or mean makes me wonder just how dumb you really are?
Do me a favor … if you read something that I’ve posted and there is a typo or grammatical mistake, etc., please don’t be “kind” to me by pointing out my stupidity to the would.
I know you don’t think that is mean but it certainly would upset me!
So, Elizabeth, I am going to let you wallow in your superiority and self righteousness!
You just don’t get it!!! ?
I give up!!
“the fact that you can NOT comprehend that making fun of another person’s grammar or short comings is NOT nasty, superior or mean makes me wonder just how dumb you really are? ”
I am making no comments. Just read again what you have written.
Okay, give me your opening statement as to why our nation’s restrooms and locker rooms should be “transgendered.” I would like to hear even one logical defense of this Obama decision!
The obvious – and logical – defense is that Obama did not decide that restrooms should be “transgendered”.
The justice department would never have been involved in the discussion had North Carolina not passed their HR2 bill which clearly discriminated against a small segment of the population based on gender identity. Such discrimination is against current US law and the State of NC was reprimanded.
All the brouhaha has been about “men” being allowed into women’s restrooms. Have you ever thought about the reverse? That is, a transgender man (a person labelled female at birth but now living life as a man) who would be forced to use the ladies’ room? How would you handle that?
I have talked to several men and they have no problem with a transgendered female using the restroom with them. None of them would mind if any female wanted to use their bathroom. Lol.
Also, no female with whom I have discussed this has a problem with a truly transgendered male who has had his male member removed using the same bathroom as them.
How would anyone even know if either of the above were transgendered? Follow them into the stalls? I doubt that the police would do that.
The problem lies with the males who still have their members and just “feel like a woman today” yet clearly appear as males Don’t you agree?
I would agree if I thought there was the slightest chance that any man “just feel(s) like a woman today”. That is not how it works.
You make very good points about how does one know. But you haven’t really thought through the implications of a man who looks and acts like a woman using the men’s room. First of all, is it really likely that the first thing that pops into the men’s mind is that the woman who has just wandered in to their restroom is “Ah, this must be a transgender woman; no problem if ‘he’ wants to use our facilities”?
I think you are correct that most likely no man really would “just feel like a woman today,” but my understanding is all a man has to do is assert that.
Am I wrong? Will every man who tries to share the women’s restroom who looks like a man be required to “prove” he has really transgendered???
It is not myself of whom I am concerned. If a person that looks and dresses like a man enters a public restroom I am using, I will simply lay him out and disappear.
But, if caught, the “govmint” will have the opportunity to feed me for a time.
No problem!
A man who still looks, acts and sounds like a man can say what he likes, but still has no place in a woman’s restroom. Your mistake is to say “feel like a woman TODAY”. That implies he may feel differently tomorrow. I really don’t think that is how it works. From what I understand, the feeling of being in the wrong body starts very young and by the time a “man” is ready to use the ladies’ room he has moved a long way towards being she. Hormones, shaving, breast enlargement, therapy and possibly surgery are all options.
Whatever stage of transition she has reached, she is not a threat to other women using the same facilities.
ehhhhh nO! not for anyone If they were Amerucans
I figured it had to be something like that. They try so hard to be ‘clever’.
Poor deluded things. No harm done. Sorry I called you a troll. Someone did that too me before, for about the same reason. I was highly insulted.
Accused of being a liberal bad, accused of being a liberal troll much much worse!
Well said ..
On a POSITIVE side….Well there is NONE other than her AMPLE DERRIERE and that is BIG!
Plainly it’s positioned on her shoulders!
NATURALLY since her Pea sized brain needs plenty of room to roll around
Snakebait511, you rascal! That creates a hilarious picture in my mind! lol
Mary, I’m sorry if I’m a bad influence on you, I’m just an intolerant patriot who’s sick of the liberal populace who’s too dumb to know when they got it good. Just wait to see what happens when we lose our freedoms when the socialists take over. They’ll start crying “FOUL”!
I totally agree with you. Just the way you presented was hilarious!
These boyz don’t cotton too well to fraudsters, and conniving women, what being muzzroaches and all… The woman is in over her head and going down quickly
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My, my apparently you can’t read,
YOU need to reread Natalie’s post!
first, what Trump said was let’s wait and see, he never stated he would not accept the results.
But it really doesn’t matter what he actually said. It never does. They hear what they want, rewrite his words to fit their narrative and react in typical overblown liberal hysterics. And what they heard, and reported to the blind and easily led of course, was that Trump would refuse to accept the results, completely destroy democracy and possibly start a civil war with an army of imaginary hooded and robed tea party type ‘domestic terrorist’s’. Because that’s what they believe millions and millions of ordinary Americans are apparently, slavering, foaming at the mouth ‘uneducated white men’. How many liberals have you heard lately talk about the ‘fear’ they live in while marching, burning and screaming vicious threats at Trump and anyone who supports him? They are the real slavering, foaming at the mouth lunatics. They prove it everytime they gather in numbers and start destroying other peoples stuff.
very well said
You bet Dems will obstruct. HOW DOES IT FEEL? You love to dish it out don’t you fukkers? Now it is YOUR turn. And what exactly do you think you’ll do? FORCE us with your guns to OBEY when you mofukkers defied everything that was right and just for 8 years?
More hick constipation of the brain. But you bet your fukker asses we intend to obstruct, resist and revolt…that is OUR Constitutional Right: “to petition the government to redress grievances.” YOUR mouths are going to be stuffed…the easy way…a few grenades.
EW you sound like a very angry ugly person, I hope you enjoy the next 8 years
I don’t know that she is capable of anything but bitterness and hatred. I. myself, guarantee you that I’ll LOVE it. Especially in 2018 when the rinos and obstructionists are given their just rewards as traitors and snivelling cowards they are,
What are you going to love about life under Trump? How is he going to make your life better? Just curious what you are expecting.
Awww…Big ASSHOLE Hunter? Doesn’t like a woman to tell you to fukk yourself? But I’ll bet you love that Boozer Palin or Nikki with the Hickies all over her pussy right?
I am not angry. I am dishing out what you right wing fukkbaggers dished out these past 8 years. How does it feel to receive in kind ASSHOLE?
EW I hope you find God some day, Jesus save Trump will lead this country now
Would you mind reposting those thoughts with a bit of punctuation. As written, I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Let me guess…Next you’ll compare Trump to Jesus because Trump found a whore in a Slovenian brothel, cleaned her up and got Hugh Hefner to pose her nude in a Playboy Centerfold and then he married her only because she was the one who introduced him to her Russian loan Sharks who were here brothel “clients” and that makes Trump like Jesus who converted Mary Magdalene? Sorry asshole, Mary Magdalene that pig whore Melania Trump is NOT.
That you think Trump will lead this country is a joke. This man is a filthy liar who steals money by taking whatever he wants and then not paying for it. That what you call honesty? If you need proof, there are 4400 unemployed Trump Taj Majal employees he refuse to pay when he closed his casino. Nice little trick that. He closed the casino, put 4400 people out of work and then used the money he was supposed to pay them to pay that FinCEN fine. That what you call Christian?
Let me guess..you were either a whore, womanizer, druggie, gambler, wife beater or child molester and now you “GOT Religion” like they seem to do in the south and midwest after decades of sinning? Now you think you just flip a switch and your sins are all forgiven? You just unrung the bell of your dirty lying, thieving pasts and that makes you a holier than thou Bible Thumping saint? Think again.
You can’t atone by preaching your gospels of holier than thou bullshit to people like me who know that is as phony an act as it gets. You are not a Christian. Christians do not go around in KKK hoods and burning and bomb churches or crosses on front lawns. Is that YOUR version Your Phony Holiness?
We will ! We have PRESIDENT DONALD J TRUMP !!!!
Isnt obstructionist the meaning of deplorables. Ha true demrats colors
Let the Democrats keep ruining their brand! Elections do have consequences! Maybe we can continue to move them all out of power!
The Democraps need to change the name of their “party” to the RAIL (radical, anarchistic, idiotic, libturd,)PARTY!! Actually it would be better-off if it were disbanded altogether!
Of course! Let’s do away with any pretense of being a democratically run country. Let’s just go the one-party system.
In other parts of the world that is known as fascism, despotism, authoritarianism, whatever. Here, as long as the party of rich white men is the only party, it is called being American.
You need to be shipped to Germany or China. Maybe sent to Chicago on vacation. Learn just what liberal democratic trash they are
China is full of liberal democrats, is it?
Another good one would be either the Communist Party or the Marxist Party or the Progressive Party or the Party of Alinsky.
there is an easy way to fix this , the first thing trump needs to do is get the irs to investigate all these dems to see how they are making millions sitting in congress then go after the rinos start with reid and pelosi and work your way down
would that be before or after they finish their investigation of Trump?
well if they were investigating the clinton foundation with the same passion , i might there was some lagitamicy about it , but they ain’t , another attempt to smear trump with obomas dept. of injustice they all know they are losing their jobs and don’t like it
The IRS was investigating Trump at the beginning of the campaign. That is his excuse for not releasing his tax returns.
No law says he has to! One more ignorant liberal smear tactic. May I remind you that the Hildebeast used exactly the tax relief by donating $1 million to herself? You make my eyes bleed reading your propaganda..
Sorry about your bleeding eyes. That must be why you missed the fact that Bill and Hillary Clinton gave $1,000,000 to various charities in 2015. The money was funneled through the Clinton Family Foundation, but the tax benefits were no more than if the donations had been made directly.
your last name ain’t warren is it , fact oboma has bin blaming bush for 8 years , fed you lies and excuses, and use still suck up his a**, if the only thing that comes from this is democrats get held to the same laws as the rest of us ,i’ll be happy , i am sick and tired of the double standard, they get to run their filthy mouths and we are suppose to be silent
she’s either related to warren or is crazy as hell !!!
Read his damn book and you’ll know everything !
Whose damn book?
How many names do you post under, there is another muslim supporter missing when you post and when she posts you are missing ?
OMG !?!? Ellie is at it, again.
Bwahahahaha!!! Delusional democrap!
See these rhinos were not millionaires like they are now, since they have stolen from the American people and taken money from countries like iran,iraq,.. They are as crooked as a snake crawling across the desert!!! He’s putting people in now that already have made their money and he will watch to make sure their are no more thieves in the White House. Before any money is spent he will be making sure no one is stealing or paying more than we should !!!!
that’s what their afraid of, the end of their theivory
MISLEADING POLLS RIG ELECTION OUTCOMES.
GALLUP GIDDYUP POLL SAYS OBAMA IS THE MOST ADMIRED MAN………… IN IRAN.
Gallup has media diarea. Doctor say they gonna die. Polls say Trump is the most admired American. Stashu and Wanda are never wrong.
Obama is a media made citizen. VIVA EL TRUMPO. VIVA CHRISTO REY.
HERE IS THE REAL HEADLINE.
CHRISTIANS ARE FLEEING THE PARTY OF DEATH. AFTER THE KERRY ACCUSATION THAT NETANYAHU IS A RIGHT WINGER. THE KERRY COMMUNIST SIDE IS EXPOSED. 70% OF JEWISH AMERICANS VOTE DEMOCRAT. WHAT ARE YOU MESHUGGAH? TIME FOR EXODUS TWO. RUN FROM THE PARTY OF DEATH. RUN CHRISTIANS RUN.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/spiritofamericapartybook/2016/06/25/cant-put-trump-in-office-and-not-give-him-a-winning-team
How delusional and misinformed are the Lying Democraps? Watch some of Trey Gowdy’s takedowns of the smarmy, lying, corrupt Elijah Cummings!
TWEETS FOR TWUMP.
HILLARY CANCELLED FIREWORKS BEFORE ELECTION. LOTS OF FIREWORKS NOW.
PHONE RINGS HELLO? YES I’M CALLING ABOUT THE HILARY CELEBRATION WINNING THE PRESIDENCY AND THE FIREWORKS DISPLAY. VOICE ON THE OTHER END. NO FIRE CRACKA. WHAT TIME WILL HOLLYWOOD BE PERFORMING? NO FIRE CRACKA. I HEAR GOVERNOR CUOMO HAS ORDERED 200 HOTEL ROOMS FOR THE NEW YORK COMMUNIST DIVISION. NO FIRE CRACKA.
CHRISTMAS EVE WITH THE COMMUNISTS.
In the door they came with their tale between their legs. What a sorry lot in complete disarray. Tom don’t mention Trump they can’t handle it right now. All their petty fogging issues shot down by bible thumpers, farmers, fishermen, ranchers and mom and pops. Those Christian people with their kids. The undesirables who beat the Pharisees of Karl Marx. We just moved from NYC to NJ to get away from out of touch with America communist New York. Latte lickers and supporters of the all inclusive party of whites only on the platform. The servants have to stay below. You would have to have oak for brains not to see the Clinton hoax.
Hey you bunch of retard Damcrats … obstruct this —-> ,,!,,
Good one … I must remember it.
it is worthless and irrelevant talking about the ex-p. Obama. it was a sorry chapter in our history, which cost us a lot of pain, blood, embarrassment, apologetic, and set us back 16 years of progress with his 8 years of obstructing progress. He is going out as the worst of the worst person that had the opportunity to be someone, except that for that you need to be American, with the heart of a winner, he started being a loser and cheat us, deceived us, and still is lying in the way out. But now, God had mercy on the U.S. and gave us hope with Trump. The democrats, ought to listen and learn, although I doubt seriously from what constitute the democrat party at the moment, there are no brain left. and like the politician always said, the best is yet to come, except that now we know for sure that THE BEST IS REALLY YET TO COME. and it is starting to grow. WE NOW HAVE HOPE. God Bless Donald Trump.
Internal Terrorists would be a better discription,
My description of the radical demowits, “DUMB ASS” nitwits.
Interesting and expected.
What continues to bother me is that we believed the GOP would do the same with Obama. They promised they would, didn’t they? Did I miss something? When did they fulfill their commitment to us?
When Mr Trump made the same promises to us as a candidate, the GOP rose up in opposition. Why? Wasn’t he on our side? Oh! I’ll bet they thought he was lying.
Then he became our presidential candidate and the power players in the GOP continued in their opposition. WAIT! Now Mr Trump was the only man in the game! What was going on?
Finally the GOP is on board. Does a leopard change his spots? I believe action speaks louder than words. I like the new words but hate all the action to date. My old party has a dismal track record since the 1996 election.
The GOP has acted like “democrat light” for too long. What will we see from them after January 20? Let’s see. President Trump is showing himself to be a man of steel.
Have you heard the riddle? What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?
The future will be interesting indeed.
That is my take.
The time is near when the democrat party, and all it’s supporters (i.e. BLM, CAIR, Black Panthers, anti-Semites, anti-Christian, anti-American, and radical jihadist muslims) be declared a domestic terrorist organization.
Assume to role? That is what they have been doing to the patriotic Americans in their most masterful manner since the death of JFK
Remember Nancy Pelosi saying we have to pass this so we can see what is in it. What a ignorant statement, that is like buying a car and paying for it without starting it up and after the papers were signed you go out with a smile and get into your new car, start it up and put it in gear to find out there is no transmission in the car, what a scam. This is a typical socialist liberal communist democrap trap. These same socialist liberal communist democraps called the Republicans, “…anti-government, racist obstructionists who were harming the country.” Now that these socialist liberal communist democraps are going to do the same thing with they become, “…anti-government, racist obstructionists who were harming the country.”? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/31aca5e2d07694bcd5f8d6d9be04ac7e1acebe7a991538d6edb91aadf5e36069.jpg
To obstruct the new President is to go against the WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE !!! They don’t care what the people want , it’s all about them, dems and liberals. And get that filthy muslim out of congress!!!! WE THE PEOPLE WILL COME TO GET YOU WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT IT !!!!
The will of the American people was that Hillary Clinton be President.
Which filthy muslim are you talking about? As far as I know, Keith Ellison is thinly muslim member of Congress, and he hasn’t done anything bad that I am aware of.
If the will of the American people was that Hillary Clinton be president then why is Mr. Donald Trump about to be sworn in? Hmmmm…. Could it be that the will of the American people have tossed Democrats out on their corrupt, divisive, delusional rear ends and joyfully brought about a whole new era of real hope and change. Also prosperity, reality, reason and common sense? You can thank us later. When you’ve accepted that reality.
Hillary as well as Bill are Muslim supporters.
First liberalism offshoot of marxism as is communism-fascism-islamism-nazism-progressivism, devised by Lucifer the Satan to counter Good with Evil…confuse and control humankind from inception to death, that’s every aspect of your lives. No form of marxism and/or its keynesian voodoo economics redistribution of wealth has ever worked in 100 years. Islamism, inspired by Satan in the 7th Century, would deteriorate without islamistr OPEC oil to finance terrorism throughout the world…China and Russia both communist states, use American Capitalism to stay solvent, that’s backfiring on them because their citizens want the liberty that goes hand and hand with Capitalism. Now for the solid facts of our recent elections…Of the 3,141 counties in USA, Trump won 3,141 that roughly 98%, National Electoral College 304…Of the roughly 124.3 million registered voters roughly 62.8 million voted for Clinton, roughly 18 million were registered voters however with fraudulent and deceased citizens names, in reality without cheating Clinton really received roughly 44.8 million legitimate votes or 39.5% and Trump received roughly 61.5 or 54.3% of the popular vote…in any form of math that’s a LANDSLIDE Victory across the board!
Further, some among US and World were and still are baffled Donald Trump won… In Hebrew Donald Trump means Ruler, Graced by GOD, descendant of a drummer [of Germanic and irish origin]…bocher from Hebrew to English means chosen or elected…Nasi from Hebrew to English means President…Art zot ha Brit from Hebrew to English means United States, predicted by ALMIGHTY GOD roughly 4 thousand years ago came to pass November 8, 2016. No one on planet earth and/or the universe could have changed the outcome! And we are seeing positive results even before Trump is sworn in as President…thus far roughly 20,000 jobs are in the making from American companies in foreign countries to USA, American and Foreign companies are investing in USA factories soon to create JOIBS…Trump has advised the corrupt UN he is not supportive of their and Obamas UN Israeli Resolution, warning things will change in USA when he assumes command. He has advised China to chill out, as President he can speak to anyone he chooses to including the President of Taiwan. Trump advised our partners in trade, those agreements that are counter productive to American interests, will be null-and-void, subject to new negotiations. the world and USA need a leader ALMIGHTY GOD provided the best!
What a load of drivel.
Words are facts, to dismiss them with 5 words say a lot about the sender…WAKE UP AND SMELL THE TEALEAVES!
Words are not facts. Words are whatever the writer wants them to mean, although it is sometimes hard to tell what you are trying to say.
If ALMIGHTY GOD provided Trump as the best available, your god either has a sick sense of humor,or he must not care for America very much.
God did not send Satan for the last 8 years, Trump was the only one to beat Clinton. The Media worshipers do not understand that.
Friend you should know there is only ONE GOD, unless your an atheist or agnostic. I believe from you writing you are a progressive. In any case who are you to question the means by which our CREATOR chooses to direct this nation and the world. His opponent was a crook-deceitful habitual down right liar-disbarred lawyer-fired from the Watergate committee for actions unbecoming a lawyer-will go down as the worst secretary state in American history-will probably be eventually tried for transfer of secret government material received and disbursed on her private illegal server, the only thing she had going for her washer gender and even at that drew roughly 65% of our women population, primarily minority. We The Citizens made an absolute mistake with an inept marxist DINO [democrat in name only] president for 8 years, with very questionable citizenship whos marxist keynesian voodoo economics redistribution of wealth failed miserable, who has used the race card to divide our Nation, who has placed every man-woman-child in these United States IN HARMSWAY. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE TEALEAVES!
I appreciate that you consider me a friend, but perhaps you were a little precipitous. I do not know that there is only one god, because, yes, I am an atheist. More than that,I am a non-believer. That allows me to question very deeply the idea of a creator. I challenge the notion that any creator chooses the direction of the nation or the world.
If you think that “the new Trump Administration is well respected” you are sadly delusional. Ditto if you think there is a creator.
Understand you are a creation of the ultimate ENGINEER. Look up the word. You, We, I were created in HIS image…All you see before you, was, is and will be engineered by HIM. When GOD said let us create humans in our image, HE gave Humans the ability above all who other forms of life on earth the ability engineer. Further, sooner or later you my atheist friend, will understand ALMIGHTY GOD IS, in this life hopefully, after life for sue but then unfortunately may be too late…I will pray for you.
Where is your evidence? What about tortoises, or porpoises? Were they also created in his image? If not why are they here? (You could say that about most of the 8.7 million species on earth)
I’m not sure what you mean by “HE gave Humans the ability above all who other forms of life on earth the ability engineer.” Perhaps he skipped a step when he engineered you. That is a perfectly nasty thing to say, and doesn’t at all fit in with my mission to be nice, but arrogant human beings who think that they are superior to all other forms of life make me very angry.
Whether one believes in an intelligent creator or not, it is illogical to categorically deny its existence.
Any analysis of the human body, its abundance of feedback systems that allow survival more than a day and the exquisite engineering that puts our knowledge to shame, is blind to reality.
Then look at our planet and the extraordinary sum of random coincidences that allow life to exist. To put it to random luck is just not Critical Thinking.
Whether one believes something only makes it true in the confines of a very small world.
Do you believe that there is a little man in the fridge who turns the light on when you open the door? Do you believe in the tooth fairy? I hope not.
People do not believe in the little man or the tooth fairy because there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that they exist, but more importantly, there is a very good alternative explanation of why the fridge light comes on (a switch) and how the tooth disappears and money appears in its place (Mom or Dad).
There is absolutely no proof that an intelligent creator exists and a perfectly good alternative explanation of how the 8.7 million species on earth came into being. There is nothing random about it and no coincidences. There has been a steady progression/evolution from the moment the first molecule replicated itself until today. Many more species have died out than are now alive, and many more face imminent extinction now. Arguably that includes man.
The only question mark is how that first replication happened. As scientists learn more and more about how life functions, they are increasingly convinced that it all comes down to chemical reactions, and something called a photon gradient, or chemical variations that create a flow of energy. (http://www.nature.com/news/how-life-emerged-from-deep-sea-rocks-1.12109)
No need for belief – or god.
Sorry for the absence.
It will be difficult to discuss the existence of a crator if you do not put on your critical thinking cap.
I will discuss it pros and cons of natural selection vs God but only when we truly use creative thinking.
Are you aware you have not been using it in almost every post. It is fine to claim ownership but you must prove it to me or the exercise wil be futile. i believe wev both are intelligent caring people. I am not an ideologue. If you are not, we can enter a discussion.
What I am saying is to communicate neither can just repeat what we have heard without understanding both sides.
I am very familiar with natural selection, the biology of macro and micro biology. I understand both the logic and the flaws.
If you do not have a similar background it will be impossible to communicate here.
To bring you up to speed where we can intelligently discuss the issues is not something I believe I am qualified for. Let me know your thoughts.
My thoughts are that one does not necessarily need to be an expert in the subject under discussion in order to apply critical thinking to it.
See this, from The Critical Thinking Community:
“Critical thinking is the intellectually disciplined process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and/or evaluating information gathered from, or generated by, observation, experience, reflection, reasoning, or communication, as a guide to belief and action. In its exemplary form, it is based on universal intellectual values that transcend subject matter divisions: clarity, accuracy, precision, consistency, relevance, sound evidence, good reasons, depth, breadth, and fairness.”
In a nutshell, I would sum up critical thinking as always asking “does this make sense?” followed by “How” if the answer is yes, and “why not” if the answer is no.
Hi Liz,
You have dodged my attempt to establish a discussion. I do not choose to enter a discussion on the opinions on Critical thinking.
I merely offered a way to get us on the same page. There is no attempt to change your opinion.
To come back as you did, without considering my offer shows me you are not interested in entering a discussion based on Critical thinking
If correct, you need not respond. If I miss your intent, please at least look at the structure of the DNA molecule and see how that fits your opinion on evolution.
Every scientist who is serious about asking intelligent questions has done that.
I may have misjudged you. For that I apologize and will not bother you again. It is very time consuming for me to type because of my disability. I have more worhtwhile things to pursue.
Have a blessed day.
I have dodged nothing.
For the past forty or so years, I have been under the impression (delusion perhaps?) that I applied critical thinking to each and every discussion I have had. To my mind, critical thinking does not include merely agreeing.
As for applying critical thinking to the existence of a creator, I can assure you that I have spent many many hours considering the possibility that there is such a thing, but there is not one shred of evidence to support the idea, and masses and masses of evidence to support the idea that a creator such as you envision, does not exist.
I am happy to give you a long list of the inconsistencies and the other problems that I see with the idea of a creator. You have yet to come up with one argument that supports your position.
DNA (or possibly RNA) is the foundation of life. Thais where evolution starts.
Hi Liz,
I think you can put us on the same page on your own.
First, what do you know about the molecular structure of DNA and RNA. There is more than enough on the Internet to satisfy the most rabid curiosity.
When you have that under your belt, investigate the “evolution” of theories that attempt to explain, in light of the increased scientific data on biology. As our knowledge increased, it became necessary to modify the theory of evolution so it matched the “then current” knowledge of biology. It is a fascinating study. When you get through with that I’ll give you some more.
This is going to be fun.
Thanks for your interest. I enjoy learning new thing, especially when they challenge my current knowledge. I hope you feel the same.
Hi again,
I have authored papers on both the human body and our planet that examine their complexities that confound any logic saying their creation was happenstance or accidental. I tried to make them easily understood but some forage into the technical.
I wrote them over a year ago so not sure of details but they run over 2 – 4 thousand words.
Anyway, if you are interested they are word documents on my ‘puter. I can’t put them here but maybe we could find a way.
I would be fascinated to read what you wrote. Could you send them to my email: ew@abetterway.world? That would be great.
Hi again,
I am curious how you are using Critical thinking in your writing here. You are obviously well read and intelligent yet there seems an absence of it most of the time. How am I missing things?
I do not follow models or patterns or paradigms. I have no idea what you mean by critical thinking. For me it means comparing, evaluating, analyzing. There is no formula that I know of.
Well, here’s your evidence your Mentor possibly overlooked and/or understudied, something even atheist scientists overlooks for a long time, until recently, and I leave it to you Elizabeth to decipher, as your atheist teacher [yes I do know who that is]…In the beginning there was only darkness and ALMIGHTY GOD Commanded…Let There Be Light, and there was light, that light [explosion] continues to expand the universe after billions of years, and guess who is agreeing this actually has/is taking place…REFORMED Atheist Scientists, who have state-of-the art telescopes that can follow the expanding explosion of light forward and in reverse to that which was dark. You see Elizabeth ALNIGHTY GOD revealed all from the beginning of the BIBLE, The WORD Of GOD the Alpha Testament beginning and present and the Omega Testament the end or last, it’s all there waiting for humankind to understand there is only ONE ALMIGHTY GOD, who delivered his Son the CHRIST save the Earth from Lucifer the Satan the creator of atheism-marxism-islamist to try to counter ALMIGHTY GOD, Lucifer’s creator, even Lucifer must receive permission to challenge the WORD Of GOD and endeavor to sway humankind… Earth is humanity’s proving ground to choose RIGHT and evil, all will be measured by GOD, through HIS SON CHRIST. With his I end our conversational debate with you…ponder what I a sinner, as us all, put to print by the grace of ALMIGHTY GOD, until HE decides to end my days here.
You cannot possibly know my “atheist teacher” who was a 15 year old girl in South Africa, back in the late 50s. She suggested the idea (recently confirmed by several studies) that god is a creation of man. That was enough. I have not believed in god since.
Your mentor obviously did not read the BIBLE, neither have you and you neglected to take into consideration the evidence above previously presented to you. So, with all due respect, I will endeavor to present FACTS… How could any human have know that the universe at one time was dark void of light? Good question, glad you asked…
ALMIGHTY GOD tells us in GENESIS…the universe and the earth was a shapeless, chaotic mass, GOD was not pleased and COMMANDED… ‘LET THERE BE LIGHT, and light appeared and GOD was pleased with it, and the divide the light from the darkness.
Aforementioned verse dictated to and scribed by Moses roughly FOUR THOUSAND years ago. Inconceivable any human being could have known the status of the universe, at that time.
However, 20th Century scientists, previously devout atheists, have proof with state-of-the-art telescopes that indeed the universe was dark, void of light, roughly 4 billion years ago, and the burst of light…EXPLOSION is still delivering light expanding the universe, beyond any humans imagination and/or comprehension.
Hence, our conversation herewith is completed Dwell on that which I have presented to you, accept the fact that someone, regardless of what you or I call that MAGNIFICANT ENGINEER or ALMIGHTY GOD does indeed exist. knows the outcome of HIS UNIVERSE, allows HIS creation to exist on HIS EARTH.
If you care to look, there are some 4000 creation myths from around the world. They all begin with nothing because if there was something already there, you wouldn’t need a creator, now would you.
The bible is no more than the attempt of the people living at the eastern end of the Mediterranean to explain how the world as they knew it came to be. It is not proof of anything.
In the 21st century, we know an awful lot more about our world, including genetics which explains why one person is tall, another has blue eyes and a third has pale skin. We understand a great deal about how the different creatures on earth are related to each other, and we know that the most numerous organisms on earth are invisible to the human eye.
We also know that there are more species that are extinct that are currently alive. How do you explain that? Is god still experimenting?
And the more advanced we get technologically, the more we become convinced GOD IS, as the predictions in the WORD OF GOD come to pass! Hopefully, my friend you will learn sooner than later.
Are you seriously saying that advanced technology is proof that god exists?
Yep!
I’m not often speechless, but I have no idea how to reply to such moronic and mis-placed confidence.
You don’t have to respond any longer. In time you will come to know without a doubt ALMIGHTY GOD created you, all that was, all that is, all that will ever be in HIS universe. GOD be with you…END TRANSMITTION!
The old crapola really flows from the fatty in an orange pantsuit, doesn’t it?
How about that ! For eight years these pukes vilified Obama refusing to do anything even the peoples work of running the country. Why Cruz even shut our gov. down. For eight yrs. I’ve heard all sorts of BS from republicans. Now it’s my turn to send Trump and his cohorts all that BS right back in their face. Goody- goody.
LMAO. Sorry Democrats, YOU made it easier for the “side in power” to ignore the other side. YOUR Hero brought the USA to the brink of destruction. You no longer have the votes to obstruct nearly anything. The American People have spoken and removed over 1000 ‘Crat Politicians from Government service throughout America. You brought it upon yourselves.
If politician’s both Democrats and Republicans can’t cooperate for making America better for the American People, then maybe all of them should be hung from the lampposts in the Swamp instead of draining it.Politician’s are suppose to work for the American People instead of playing these childish game’s, every damn one of you need to be fired,all Democrats and Republicans! What a damn shame we as American’s have to put up with such trivial BS as this.America will be easily destroyed from the inside,because none of our worthless politician’s cares about America and the American People. Trump or Obama are not smart enough to hold all of these crooked ass politician’s feet to the fire and do their job’s that they were elected to do! !
Beat the stuffing out of a couple of ’em, and they’ll come around!
You mean like Reid got ??
Yup, Worked for a while!!!
End result is he is gone in 2017 .
Yup! They say his own Brother whacked him! Some ex-Fighter!
It worked who ever it was , as he will no longer be in WDC.
The Democratic Party has lost a all credibility here. I am going to re-register as indpendent or Republican. Obama is now the sleaziest president in our entire history……he is such a poor and dangerous president.
By all means Dem’s. go ahead, you’ll never be elected again, you have lost so much already with your BS, what’s a little more.
I have always believed these insane brain damaged mentally corrupt anti Americans would self destruct and here we are. They are a disgrace to themselves, their children, in fact all their racist communists Comrades. They lost Obama and, the slime he put into the St Dept training that political whore to do his bidding are both garbage and the Dem party are the trash bags
And this is new news? The whole time Dumb ass Reid was leading the senate he buried and hid any Republican initiatives so as to not vote of anything they presented. Difference today is, The Republicans have the votes without the DUMBOCRATS to enact what needs to be done. Screw the DUMBOCRATS.
George, just remember Dirty Harry Reid’s nuclear option, now we can use it on dumbocrats. It’s time to render these traitors to the big kettle.
If these leftist loons and government goons in BOTH parties cannot accept the fact there is a new president and with the support of AMERCAN CITIZEN majorities from Coast to Coast, then these venomous reptilian rapists and robbers who obviously think the election means NOTHING and it WILL be business as usual had better think again. America has has enough of joblessness, outrageous ovrregulation, immigration resembling Foreign invasion by foreign criminals because that is EXACTLY what it is and the infiltration of ISIS agents with tacit approval by lack of concern by the Obama Administration and perhaps complicity as well, for all we know. It is time for these duplicitous dolts and career parasites, rapists, robbers and thieves to get with the program or be eradicated from their positions of power and privilege. We NEED to get rid of the 2 party system. MOST American are independents anyway so why should we have our futures decided by indigents and incompetents who vote themselves raises for their burgeoning and insidious incompetence? There is no constitutional requirement for a 2 party system and a multiplicity of parties who should serve us all better than the current cabal of outright Communists and New World Order loyoalists to the U.N. and NOT the American people. Look at the voting records and the trend is absolutely CLEAR. we are having our freedoms and choices STOLEN from under us by the enemy within and that enemy is legion in numbers and partially composed of duly elected Congress cretins like Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi , Harry Reid and business corporate cretins like Michael Bloomberg and George Soros and legions of others. Why should a demented few decide the fate of the REST OF US? Awaken , fools and LOOK at the world you are being forced to accept by those elected to serve YOU, not themselves. Few of those who take the oath of office , honor it. Those who do: (our military takes the same oath) are actively discriminated AGAINST and illegally made subject to U.N. laws if assigned to certain duties and no one should be required to be responsible to other than AMERICAN Commanders. We pay 22 % of the U.N’.s total expenses and they are the Consummate enemy within. period. Defund the fifth columnist New World Order interlopers and throw them off American Soil. They have no right to interfere in American Domestic affairs period and they NEVER will as long as 30 million American military vets have anything to say about it.: and, WE WILL! I am a disabled Vietnam Vet who served this country more honorably than most in the government since most of them NEVER serve anything or anyone BUT themselves and their positions. Term limits and a Citizen Congressional Evaluation Board can end that and I sincerely BELIEVE it is necessary IF we are to remain a free, sovereign and independent state. . If you come here: assimilate or remain where you are. And, COME HERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH, NOT IN VIOLATION OF AMERICAN LAW AS YOUR FIRST ACT ON OUR SOIL. PERIOD.
I hope in the next election all damn-ocrats are voted out. Sore losers, crybabies, whining SOBs. I’m so sick of Pelosi & at least Harry Reid is gone, or will be soon. But Schumer will probably be just as bad.
Fine! Let the communists sit it out while the republicans approve all the nominees. Better yet, just deem them approved like the democrats did aca.
Two-year olds prepare to throw another tantrum.
dear democrats, perhaps you fail to realize that IF you become exactly what you railed against in an endless droning sound, even the most dumbed down public school educated person will soon see you for what you really are.
But HEY!
Go right on ahead.
It will be fun to watch.
Mid terms you lose 30 in the house and 5 in the senate, then following election you will lose even more.
All of them seem to forget who put them there and what they are there for.
They need to grow up.
I strongly sense that TRUMP will find his way around the more stubborn ones, including the Republicans who we already know will be doing their best to slow his progress. But all in all, they need to consider the real reasons they are there and abide by the Golden Rule.
I think that if the Democrats don’t do their jobs. There will be no Democrat party. There are a lot of Democrats that voted for Trunp like myself, And I was a Democrat for years and years and I have no intention of returning. I will only vote for who I think will do the job best. Fact is I voted Obama twice and this last four years he has screwed this country every way he could and the people.
Hey, Libtard Democrooks, Payback is a real *b|tch*, ain’t it?
BOHICA, assho|es.
Look out dems you pull any funking crap and we will remember in 2018. We have had it with all your BS. and remember we have had to deal with your damn BO for 8 damn yrs and we are angry. he has torn this country up to almost nothing ———–and we want this country back. SO I SUGGEST YOU DEMS TREAD LIGHTLY. WE ALL know shit is coming down the road for 2017 — I suggest to think along those lines first.!!!!
Trump will put them in their place real quick ! Their a bunch of WHINNY BABIES just like bama ! Other president’s didn’t do this to the next president coming in .Goes to show bama’s real color’s !!!!!!!!!!!
Ha, ha, ha!!! Thank you Harry Reid for showing us your crybaby antics have consequences. What goes around, comes around. For every action, there is a reaction. This time, that reaction has kicked your sorry, evil ass down the proverbial tubes. DEAL WITH IT!!!
The far left democrats and Obama made pollicy over the last eight years that seemed so backwards, the people of this great country couldn’t understand or believe it was happening. The republicans being the voice of the people kept speaking out to protect the country from harm stopping bad pollicy when possible. The election and the loss of seats by democrats over the years proves just that. We the people of this great country have spoken and will continue to speak at every election until all democrat seats disappear from the house completely.
The United States of America is the greatest country on earth and government, will make decisions, by the people. Elect President Trump was put in office by the people and I have no doubt he will lead this nation into the future with jobs and financial security for all no matter what color, race, or religion you happen to be.
God bless America and help lead this great nation into a glorious future, prosperous new year, and the American way of life and independence people have enjoyed since the days of our founding fathers.
The Democrats have learned the very best ever “Obstructionists” (the Republicans) over the past eight years
Disqus, what has obummer really done that is/was good for our country? So far our country is more divided and you would have to go back to the civil war in the 1860’s for a comparison, he got our country in more debt than the previous 43 presidents, we have a disasterious health care with obamacare, more people out of work, open borders, propaganda media, failed school agenda( common core) and the list goes on and on. The country finally votes in someone who wants to rebuilt our country, bring jobs back home, stop the illegal migration to our country, get government out of dictating health care, improve our inner city’s and just make America great again and abide by our constitution and the libturds are having a hissy fit! Something is wrong with you people and your twisted thinking.
When it is all said and done…..”Obama” (I think I saw a typo there) will have done more for this country and Americans than the selfish and shallow Trump…..wait and see
Disqus, kindly tell me what great things he got done?
I say let them obstruct all they want. President Trump will have the Bully-pulpit…and use it like never before, to get the truth out. The more they obstruct…the more seats they will lose, everywhere in America. They have 10 Senate seats up in 2 years…and we, as a country, will be booming by then! In 2 years, the Demon-rats party, will be a historical foot note…like Obuma!! And America will be re-newed…stronger, richer, and better than ever before! WITHOUT WAR!! Our future, will be Freer, Safer, and Brighter for all of our citizens…meant for the ages, through God’s divine intervention.
Hopefully that idea goes as well as the Democrat ideas of the past. All failures.
They are continually accusing us of the same thing they continually do automatically, what hippocrits.
Right on. Fight against everything. Don’t let Trump bring in and save jobs, block all the good things for our country, he won the election on. After all the Democratic Party lost. Punish us, for not voting for a corrupt Hillary. Think, would so many people have left the Democratic party so they could vote in the primaries. Would so many, plus those who did not, switch, voted for Trump in the Election. Punish …Punish…Punish..Don’t do the job you were elected for, which is what? Have you Democrats forgotten? All the things Trump said he would do, are good things for our Country. Work together get them done.
At the very most, all the Dems might accomplish is a civil war that they will not survive. Bring it on, you idiots. I can’t describe how we are looking forward to it. I truly hope to meet some of you scum bags at the coming inaugeration in DC. Bring on your threatened “frontal attack”. We are waiting for you.
WHAT IS WITH THE DEGRADING PICTURES OF IVANKA? WHY NONE OF KIM KARDAHIAN’S EXTRA WIDE TRAILER? I FORGOT SHE IS A DEMOCRAT.
ANY POLITICIAN ON EITHER SIDE WHO OPPOSES TRUMP MUST BE SQUASHED OUT OF OFFICE ON THE FIRST VOTE. TRUMP MUST HAVE A CLEAR PATH TO OUR SUCCESS.
The demo commo party is not the party of your ancestors. The democrat party was the party of the little guy. After Harry Truman it became the party of the elitists. When Harry Truman the last real democrat left office he still had the original mortgage on his house. The billionaire donations to Hilary were larger than the republican ones. 173m to 143m.Not counting the Clinton foundation burial grounds. 12 million from one king of Morocco. If you go to you tube and google democrats throw GOD out at the convention you will see the real face of communism.
Harry Truman kissed the bible on innauguration day. When Truman was campaigning by train he ran out of funds and his train was stopped until money paid for him to continue. Harry once said, “When they call the roll in congress, they don’t know whether to answer present or not guilty.” He also said if a man can’t be true to his family. How can he be true to his country? If you believe that life begins at conception and all life is sacred you must leave the party of death to little children. Otherwise you become a political accomplice to child murder.You don’t have to go republican you can go with GOD. My money is on GOD and Trump.
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they have always been obstructionist as far as common since goes!!!!
If the Obama administration is any indication of what the GOP President and government should do, I believe anything the Democrats have to say should be irevelant and of no consiquince in any decision making of policy or anything else that has to do with which direction our country takes In the future. It should be illegal to be a democrat, the party of the brain dead.
What’s the beef??? Republicans already did it for 8 years, the dems are just starting, and you are already moaning and whinning!!!! I can’t take either party!!!!
The election didn’t teach these idiot democrats a thing did it. They are still bullying the voters and anyone who disagrees with them to get their way. More and more of them are going to be voted out of office over the next few years. Harry saw the writing on the wall and got out early.
The cry babies have NO LIFE !WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
It’s their turn in the barrel…. Give them a good soaking.
Democrats did not get the message from the power voice of the people. They keep this up and they will feel and hear the full power of the people of this country.
They say Americans have made more death threats to Obama than all the previous presidents combined. I think that these patriots should send these threats to local addresses – after all charity starts at home
Propagandists will be out in force…but won’t matter. The Trump train will go full force and the obstructions will be put to shame, as well as lose more of their insignificant power. Their chest thumping…will be a chest TRUMPING!
TELL ME YOU DAMN DEMS IS THIS HOW YOU HELP YOUR COUNTRY AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO BE SUPPORTING . NOT WORKING FOR THE BETTERMENT BUT DO YOUR DAMN NASTY SHIT AS ALWAYS. TELL ME WHY IN THE HELL ARE YOU IN GOV. IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF YOUR NOT GOING TO HELP THEN GET THE HELL OUT —WE CAN DAMN WELL DO WITH OUT YOU.!!!!
What is meant by Assume the Role of Obstructionist’s, they have Already BEEN Obstructionist’s, just Look at the E-Mail Investigation and the Democrats Obstruction of Justice, the Benghazi Investigation and the Democrats Obstruction of Justice…The Democratic Party IS the Party of Injustice and Obstruction, and it will Never Change…Vote them OUT of OFFICE, Period.!!!
Personally I would be more concerned with the alt left than the Russians. This whole idea of somehow Russia being enemy number one is crap. Obama wants us to think that because his canidate lost. His policies lost in thus election. Putin made him look like an idiot throughout his presidency and because of his ego and narcissist makeup he needs to proclaim loud and clear he is really the tough guy in his last 3 weeks. Hello??? Where were you when China hacked into 23 million people’s filed in the OPM?? How about when you knew before the election about Russia. It’s only important now because Hillary didn’t win. Where is the OBAMA outrage over the criminality released in those DNC emails ? Any investigation in that ? No we will only investigate Donald Trump. What a bunch of pathetic political hacks. The electorate fully understands the complicity and corruption of this administration and said enough. Our biggest threat to our safety and security is the left in this country led by traitors like OBAMA and Hillary Clinton, fully supported by George Soros.