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Hispanic Contractors Threatened for Bidding on Trump Wall

Posted On 31 Mar 2017
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According to a story in the Washington Post, Hispanic-owned construction companies that bid on President Trump’s border wall have been getting death threats for “betraying their community.” The paper reports that although there are thousands of Hispanic-owned construction operations in the U.S., less than 40 have bid on the controversial project.

In interviews with the Post, Hispanic contractors who bid on the project explained why they did so and what kind of price they’ve paid for their supposed disloyalty.

“A lot of people are saying, ‘You’re Latino. How can you build a wall to keep other Latinos out?’ We had to do a lot of soul-searching before we jumped into this because it’s obviously a very, very controversial topic,” Michael Evangelista-Ysasaga, owner of the Penna Group, told the paper.

He said that he believed that the U.S. had a right to protect and defend its borders.

From the Post:

Evangelista-Ysasaga, whose grandparents emigrated from Mexico, said he fielded five death threats one morning alone this week from “random people calling into the office and just screaming.”

Every sovereign nation has a duty to defend its borders, he told callers. Unfortunately, he said, a “certain segment” of American Latinos have cast supporters of the border wall as “racist.”

Other Hispanic bidders told a version of the same story, though their reasons for participating in the project varied. Some had no opinion and were making a purely economic decision, for themselves and for their Hispanic crews. Others disagreed with the concept of the wall but wanted to make sure it was done in a humane way. But they all agreed that there would be social and economic consequences for any Hispanic company chosen to work on the wall.

It would be a work of political genius, though, for the Trump administration to hire a Hispanic company for the job. Not in a: Ha, ha, we found one of the few Hispanics in the country greedy enough to do it…kind of way, although that’s no doubt how the media will portray it. No, in a way that demonstrates that this wall has NOTHING to do with Hispanics or even Mexicans, more specifically. It is purely about illegal immigration, national security, and the law.

Judging by the polls – which essentially control the mood of Congress – the wall needs a bit of a PR campaign if Trump wants to get his funding. Hiring a Hispanic contractor who can patriotically argue the case for the project wouldn’t be the worst idea. Just make sure you find one with the, um, cojones to stick it out.

 

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  1. David Stewart April 3, 2017 at 12:40 pm Reply

    More fake news from WaPo, source of a lot of fake news!

    • jimmy midnight April 3, 2017 at 1:58 pm Reply

      Generally speaking, MSM needs a substantial reason 4 deceit. (Truths that reflect badly on sponsors, and R therefore left unmentioned, is the single most common form.)

      WaPo’s cred HAS been set back a pretty readily identifiable notch in recent months, but that doesn’t actually mean that, “Everything they say is a lie.” If it was only that easy….

  2. vincent deredita April 3, 2017 at 1:22 pm Reply

    That job should go to WHITE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS!!!

    • Germansmith April 3, 2017 at 1:39 pm Reply

      Go for it…it will take 1000 years to complete
      Why not go an apply for a job and fulfill your WHITE patriotic duty.

      • Whaledriver April 3, 2017 at 2:24 pm Reply

        Building the Great Wall of China took quite some time, and it was very successful. After all, you don’t find many illegal Mexican immigrants there, do you?

        • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 6:15 pm Reply

          That is what Spain or Mexico should have done a long time ago to keep gringos out. Imagine that a life without gringos I think I like it.

          • Whaledriver April 4, 2017 at 7:50 pm

            Let’s dance.

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 8:25 pm

            Sure why not.

      • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 6:13 pm Reply

        A thousand years !!!! by that time they will all be on this side of the wall. Ha ha ha ha

      • The Capatin April 5, 2017 at 2:21 pm Reply

        Ask Israel how long it took them to build theirs. There are plenty of people out of work that are willing to put in the time to build this wall against intrusion.

        By the way, Germansmith, how long have you been this strong of a racist?

    • vincent deredita April 3, 2017 at 4:26 pm Reply

      I am Disabled it feels good for a WHITE MAN to SIT ON HIS ASS and COLLECT!!! You NAZI MICK you sound like a REAL PIECE OF SHIT LIBERAL!!!

      • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 8:27 pm Reply

        Talking to yourself again Vinny. That’s what sitting idle does to you.

    • kim April 5, 2017 at 3:05 pm Reply

      I understand that there is a frustration for the hatred for white folks these of days….However, maybe it would be better to say that job should go to AMERICAN WORKERS….instead of the skin color issue especially because we already have enough problems of hatred with the focus on skin color rather than the character and virtue of a person….you know.

  3. Roy April 3, 2017 at 1:45 pm Reply

    These companies would have to be closely monitored to ensure they don’t build a tunnel under at the same time they’re building the wall.

    • jreg9304 April 3, 2017 at 3:51 pm Reply

      that’s for damned sure, my sentiments exactly!

    • rome44 April 3, 2017 at 4:42 pm Reply

      Thanks for the idea. I’ll be sure to pass it along.

      • kim April 4, 2017 at 1:59 am Reply

        so very sick of enemies to the US getting our benefits yet still hating the citizens and causing havoc and threatening aggressively with the liberal progressive burn outs rioting and the citizens are really getting tired of this as we have children and grand children to worry about leaving them behind only to lose their freedoms and be enslaved by the likes of a mind set such as your own. No more monies and illegals will have NO reason to come here unless they want to live on the streets and that would make it easier for ICE to deport if they aren’t hold up in a safe place on the dime of American working citizens that pay taxes and not under the table such as illegals get to do. Talk about unfairness…..look in the mirror….you are the unfair one.

        • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 2:40 am Reply

          Kim what in the hell are you talking about ? Who is getting benefits, and who hates citizens and who is threatening who ? You are not making any sense.
          What riots are you talking about and where is this taking place ? I too have grandchildren and why in the world would I want for them to lose their freedoms and to top it off be enslaved.
          You have no understanding of my position I want to leave a better country for them not the other way around. Kim I’m not stupid nor naive there is nothing I’ve stated so far that calls for the disastrous measures you accuse me of. You need to do some more reading of my comments because you have a gross misunderstanding of me.

          • kim April 4, 2017 at 3:02 am

            Seriously….example….college campuses do not want freedom of speech and they are hateful and intolerant of any view that differs from their own….the blm are hateful, racist and radical and aggressive as well…..the islamic believers demanding their way of life and every time you turn around they are whining about nothing. They are so catered to and citizens are getting tired of it and the first time someone loses it and causes them any trouble then you will see the media and certain politician and celebrities marching and yelling and calling citizens all sorts of names….its okay for them to go evil on our society but the first time a citizen that gets mad and maybe takes a punch at one of them….your going to see coverage so blown out of proportion as if they themselves had a bomb threat upon them when that is what they do to innocent folks…..much lying is what ive notice from this culture of ungrateful hateful people from the mid east.

          • DaveyJ April 4, 2017 at 3:19 am

            Our college campuses are rapidly becoming a place to hang out, and become unemployable as employers know they are now being offered damaged goods, entitled, coddled, children who,do not know how to work!

          • kim April 4, 2017 at 10:37 am

            Your right that I may have a misunderstanding of yourself by your comments and this does happen in comments all the time….typed words a lot of times can not hold a candle to an actual conversation face to face. Have you noticed that this rarely even occurs anymore…..no debates going on for years now….just a lot of childish name throwing, etc. and nothing gets accomplished and this I see in our so called leaders. i’d like to take this time to apologize for getting riled up at you in this comment section….you don’t know me either and I do not go off on folks like this usually….I prefer rational conversations….it must be bottled up frustration on my part and you unfortunately are the one to have caught it from me….I found myself acting like the very people who are driving me crazy for the past 8 years….this country is already enslaved in my opinion. So very much hate going on and our culture going away little by little and then there is the suffering of the innocent from the evil people that come in here to do just that…wreak evil havoc and spread hate. And, please know that I do not consider all Hispanics or any people group that seem to be blowing things up here, etc.; to All be doing evil things…i’m just complaining about the evil ones. I understand that there are evil folks in all people groups on this planet…as they say, one bad apple in a bunch causes the innocent of their group to be labeled unfortunately along with their evil criminals among them. That’s not fair at all. I seriously look upon the character and actions of a person before forming an opinion of them individually as i’m NOT the Judge of human kinds souls, that’s for sure There are evil men and women in all the races and cultures, etc. Whew…our young people in college, who are suppose to be there to get a higher education seem to only be getting indoctrinated into anti- American rhetoric fueled by hatred and aggression toward any one who does not agree with them and they do it all in the name of tolerance. I think our college youth need to start over in elementary school to learn the basics before attempting to live in the adult world and these are suppose to be the next leaders of the US…..Yikes. Well, again, I do apologize for flying off with my wording and perhaps a conversation could be one day held without emotion getting in the way. We ALL can not accomplish anything that is good when fueled only by emotion, that’s for sure. Too much hate going on and hate only comes from the “evil one”….this I know for a fact….that is a most important subject that I wont go into in this forum especially after I just allowed negative emotions to guide my words in this thread. Was going to say, I don’t know what came over me…..But that would be a lie….I do know what came over me and I do apologize again to you for any words that I said that was mean towards yourself. Fact of the matter is; Is that i’m real angry at the shape of the US and the world and what we are leaving behind for our youth; Not only angry am i but afraid for them as their lives are going to be unbelievable and not in a good way i’m afraid to say. Take care and stay safe!!

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 5:37 pm

            Thank you, Kim, my sentiments exactly.

          • kim April 4, 2017 at 10:56 am

            umm….excuse me but you did just say that “you’ll pass it along”…..the idea that someone said about making sure they don’t basically sabotage building the wall. You sure made it sound like you would “warn” them and that is treacherous. That’s where I was coming from with my reply to your statement.

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 5:34 pm

            Apparently you have no sense of humor, I was jesting about the tunnel. I have no say so in the matter it’s not like I can walk up to a contractor and instruct him to build a tunnel LOL you’re so gullible. Besides that wasn’t meant for you.
            Illegals and refugees, here we have to separate the two, Illegals have no rights with the exception medical care in an emergency and their kids are allowed to attend school, beyond that they get nothing. Have you ever walked into a welfare office to apply for assistance for housing and food stamps ? Even you as a citizen will be required to provide all kinds of documentation down to how many rolls of toilet paper you think you will be needing. Now imagine an illegal going in there to do the same ! It’s laughable, it doesn’t happen.
            A refugee is treated very differently he is set up at taxpayer expense all legal.
            I whole heartedly agree with you on the plight of our vets. I saw how Viet Nam veterans were treated upon their return and I’m seeing it again with our Iraqi vets. It is shameful that our politicians neglect these brave young people who ask no question they go to fight old mens wars doing their patriotic duty. I do what I can do for them I donate to an organization for Paralyzed American Veterans I would encourage for you to do the same.
            I asked you to read my earlier posts not your own. You are mistaken I’m not misinformed at all.
            Kim, this flag burning business has been up to the supreme court. The court has rendered an opinion that flag burning is protected under freedom of speech. If I saw somebody burning our flag I’d punch that person in the mouth I might get my ass kicked but I’d do it anyway. The same applies to any country’s flag.
            The rest of your comments are nothing more than misplaced fears.

          • kim April 5, 2017 at 4:33 am

            Supreme court doesn’t make Law….they are suppose to uphold existing Law such as the US Constitution….just saying; since you have deemed me not worth talking to. Thank you and take care.

          • rome44 April 5, 2017 at 4:30 pm

            Well you said it right Kim, however the supreme court has been politicized as we speak, republicans refused to even have a hearing for judge Garland only because he was Obama’s nominee, now dems don’t want to confirm Gorsuch they are pissed because of how they treated judge Garland. Everyday I hear on the news the supreme is currently split in half, what nonsense is this ?
            The supreme court is the highest court of the land it should held up above reproach independent of any political affiliation.
            I feel I’m a witness to the disintegration of our democracy. And I have to disagree with you, the supreme court is making law, in Citizens United they opened up the flood gates to unlimited mounts of corporate money into politics.
            How can we the people with limited resources compete against corporate contributions. They are buying our elected officials and are no longer responsible to “WE the people”.

          • kim April 5, 2017 at 5:03 pm

            That’s one of our biggest problems…..No repercussion for political folks…judges, senators, congressmen, etc.;….They never get fired, removed from office or incarcerated for breaking their Oath to uphold the US Constitution. If the Laws of the Land were being upheld; And if we didn’t have corruption and obstruction going on in such high places…..Then a lack of money would not mean anything if only our so called leaders were upright citizens……..

          • rome44 April 6, 2017 at 6:29 pm

            You see if we dig down enough we find commonality. I think it matters not where we fall on the political spectrum we can all sense something is not right about our gov. It’s become a playground for the rich. They go serve in congress and when they leave they go across the way to “K” St. to become lobbyists.
            We the people don’t have a chance in pleading to our elected officials.

          • kim April 5, 2017 at 5:07 pm

            Forgot to address your comment, “the supreme court is making law”…….Any so called law coming from the supreme court is null and void because they are NOT Law Makers just because they call themselves “making law”….doesn’t make it correct and or legal. They are to only judge existing Law and uphold them…not create law in any manner.

          • rome44 April 6, 2017 at 6:31 pm

            Write each one of them individually and remind them of it.

      • kim April 4, 2017 at 2:21 am Reply

        You’ll pass it along such as a traitor would huh. Must not adhere or even believe in the US Constitution?

        • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 5:57 pm Reply

          I do because I was born American. I served my country during Viet Nam. What have you done ?

  4. Germansmith April 3, 2017 at 1:46 pm Reply

    I think the wall must be build, it will probably be build by Latinos and it will prove to be a White Elephant and another evidence of Trump and his racists idiocies

    If Hispanic firms can benefit from the money wasted by Trump in the wall, Go for it. They will under bid the white owned firms and the wall (and the tunnels below it) will be build by Latin labor.
    Who do you think did most of the labor to rebuild New Orleans after Katrina?

    • rome44 April 3, 2017 at 4:51 pm Reply

      Brazilians, Guatemalans and Salvadorians did most of the labor. And sad to say our military young men and women where give the task of removing refrigerators with food in them sitting there for weeks w/o power. They told me about the horrible smells they had to endure.

  5. Thomjeff April 3, 2017 at 1:53 pm Reply

    If liberals couldn’t use the word racists, they couldn’t put a sentence together. We don’t care who builds the damn wall. Just get the job done.

    • ted j April 3, 2017 at 2:08 pm Reply

      as long as the company that does the job are all legal citizens of the USA..

    • The Old One April 3, 2017 at 3:26 pm Reply

      We should care about who build the wall. It should be an American company, with legal citizens being the members of the crews. Not a foreign company like cemex and other. Let’s keep the jobs here.

    • ArizonaMilitiaDotCom April 3, 2017 at 3:27 pm Reply

      Crying “Racist!” is always the *last* thing that the inbred Libtard Whackadoodle Douchebags spew, because it signals that they have reached the point where they cannot think of anything smarter to say.

      Crying “racist” is their admission that they have lost the argument. It is their cry of Surrender.

      • AKLady April 5, 2017 at 7:24 am Reply

        Right and who is the sewer mouth crying unfair??? Maybe you should try looking in the mirror.

        • herculesx April 5, 2017 at 1:42 pm Reply

          What does AK stand for A-Hole Knucklehead ,No Not Knucklehead that would Disgrace a Great American Engine Legend ! Must be Knothead, thats it A-hole Knothead !
          Why don’t you go post on your favorite magazines like CounterPunch or The American Prospect. or are you even too liberal for them? Worn the pages Thin rereading Cover to Cover huh!

          • AKLady April 5, 2017 at 11:26 pm

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          • herculesx April 8, 2017 at 10:42 pm

            Like Wise Only Your Brainwashed by the Liberal Left which will Destroy this Country if Allowed ,There are a Lot of Bad ,Bad People out there!

    • irene April 3, 2017 at 4:20 pm Reply

      AMEN!!!

    • rome44 April 3, 2017 at 4:39 pm Reply

      I can because I live in the middle of it. Whether you care to believe it or not the Southwest has been inhabited by the indigenous people and the mix of Spanish, as a matter of fact Spanish has been the language for over two centuries before any english speakers arrived. The people have always moved about freely back and forth. The geo-political lines were drawn by white immigrants. Trump doesn’t live here, he flew in to see the border for about 3 hrs. and now he is an expert on our culture.
      A wall would be a blight on our territory, a wall Trump would never see from Washington or Trump Tower. The wall would represent a division between us and our neighbors much like what it did for the German people with the Berlin wall. The people that live near the border from TX to CA would have to see this ugly monolith and be reminded of what it actually stands for.
      And it does have a racial component to it, much to your chagrin. I know because as an American of Mexican heritage I’ve had ignorant whites tell me to go back to Mexico. I don’t put up with their bull crap. If they don’t like the Mexican people they shouldn’t have come here in the first place.
      The wall is not the answer to your perceived threats. To much of the chants of border security (a euphemism for racial division) there is no terrorist threat coming from our southern border.
      If the goal of our politicians and folks who are bothered by this to curb illegal immigration the most effective method is to place sanctions on the people that employ them in the first place. Dry up the jobs and illegal immigration drys up too. It costs nothing we save ourselves $15-40 billion in the process.
      Lastly, the drug trade, when and if Americans can quell their insatiable appetite for them there is no wall high enough that will keep them out there is too much profit in it to be stopped by any wall.

      • denoferth April 3, 2017 at 5:28 pm Reply

        Really, trying to compare the United States and Mexico to East and West Germany? Quite a stretch even for an open border advocate. An interesting concept but only valid if you can’t comprehend mexico lost the war, and those territories, and so is now a completely separate country. The one great concept that keeps bouncing off the thick skulls of liberals is the Berlin Wall was built by communists (you know, lefties) to keep their people captive while America’s Wall will be built to keep trespassers out. A concept so simple even a liberal or democrat should be able to understand it.

        • rome44 April 3, 2017 at 6:19 pm Reply

          One important point you fail to understand the geo- political lines divided lands not the people who remained where they lived.
          You make a distinction without a difference over the wall. A wall is a wall whether it’s to keep people out or to keep others in. The Mexican people are my kindred, I’m American born and I have no desire to have a wall between us.
          It’s not the simple thick skull for me.
          You attribute the Berlin wall to communists as I attribute the proposed wall to right wingers.
          You go along the border areas and ask those folks what they think about Trumps wall. I venture to say you won’t find too many an American of Mexican decent who is for it.
          Though hard for you to understand the wall has a whole different meaning for us and what it stands for.
          I have a simple solution that requires no wall, to stop illegal immigration; place sanctions on American businesses that hire illegals you dry up the jobs and they will stop coming. It costs nothing and we save billions of wasted taxpayer money in the process.

          • denoferth April 3, 2017 at 9:10 pm

            Problem is many of those “illegals” are actually migrant workers who over stay their permits. You would also have to dry up the demand for dope and sex slaves as well as apprehend gang members and terrorists and I’m afraid that’s just not going to happen without some sort of physical barrier. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dcd13b28f79366153ba643966fe9b27402ceda90ec2cd5786ca88949e2fc495e.jpg

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 2:02 am

            Wow, you’re short changed so now you want to throw in the kitchen sink. Ok deno. What permits would that be ? As we have no such system in place. The demand for dope is here at home and as long as our fellow citizens crave drugs theres no wall high enough to keep them from coming across.
            I’m assuming you haven’t read my other comments concerning this issue but I’ve said repeatedly we can start by placing sanction on employer that hire illegals dry up the jobs and this activity drys up too. Stands to reason right ?
            We don’t need a wall to round up criminals and gang members law enforcement already know who and where they are.
            I’ll leave the sex slave issue for others to comment but I seriously doubt a wall would have any effect on the trade.

          • denoferth April 4, 2017 at 4:50 am

            OK, rome44, long story short; you’re either a citizen of America or of Mexico. Both are sovereign countries with borders and citizenship requirements. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/78569be5bc0c6b87f56c2b8e1607cc0cd40d5ede5e3dadfdaf99b4ad163d5494.jpg

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 6:35 pm

            I’m an American citizen but we disagree on the need for a wall. I offer a viable solution that doesn’t cost a dime. But I’ve said it enough times I feel you’ve read my solution already.
            Most don’t like it they’d rather build a wall.
            However, you are being deceptive with this map as there is no wall between Mexico and Guatemala, my, my, the tangled webs we weave when we practice to deceive.

          • denoferth April 5, 2017 at 2:16 am

            Why don’t you hop on down to Mexico and get caught sneaking across the border. It could be quite a shock to your liberal mind to discover what your favorite Mexico does to trespassers.

          • rome44 April 5, 2017 at 2:06 pm

            You are deflecting from the bogus map you posted for others to see. it’s a total fabrication by you or whoever designed it.
            “My favorite Mexico” ! Aren’t you a clever one, I never said anything of the kind. How Mexican authorities handles people crossing into Mexico is a totally different issue which you didn’t bring up with the map.
            I’m aware of the harsh policies on people crossing their border. If you had bothered to read in my earlier comments I have advocated for Mexico to partner with us to stem the flow of illegal immigration. Honestly how can you get them to cooperate when you insult them by saying they are sending us criminals and drug dealers and rapists, add to that proposing a wall.
            It can be done but unfortunately we have the wrong people in charge, novices with no diplomatic skills.

          • kim April 5, 2017 at 2:46 pm

            Predominantly, they are sending their worse criminals into America. Didn’t you know that the Mexican authorities have even refused to accept their own sent over into America criminals back into Mexico? They do not want them back once they get them out of there I guess they view America as some sort of dumping ground for their Mexican criminal undesirables?

          • rome44 April 5, 2017 at 8:45 pm

            I don’t accept internet fodder provide your sources.

          • kim April 6, 2017 at 11:46 am

            Easy enough to “google” and the articles will pop up.

          • rome44 April 6, 2017 at 6:11 pm

            Hello Kim, you want me to go to the same place you picked up this same fodder. How in heavens will this move me further along. With social media anyone can put up a site and write a narrative anyway they want they don’t care about posting accurate and factual information. These are people with an agenda to promote whatever they want.
            Experience with these type of sites have taught me not to trust them.
            You’ve read some of my comments on illegal immigration. Trust me when I tell you, it is American businesses that entice these people to come here. I often tell people a personal experience when I was a very young man. I went to work at a food processing plant as a maintenance tech. It was a fenced facility with main gate, on the fence was this 4X6 sign with big bold letters “NOT HIRING TODAY” that friggin sign was so old and faded, hardly legible. It was a ruse to keep people away. Inside was another matter mgt. was always hiring due to the high turnover rate. The majority of employees were illegals, the only way to get hired there was to have a friend bring you in.
            It didn’t take very long for me realize most new hires were family members of folks working there. At the time if a company vouched for someone it meant they had a job waiting for them and would be admitted into the country.
            I figure a lot of that activity was ongoing around the country.
            Suffice to say it is our own industries who are complicit in this illegal activity. Word of mouth spreads very quickly that is the reason why they risked everything and even their lives to come here.
            The criminals you mention, aren’t you confusing them with the Cubans who Castro released from his jails put them on boats and sent them to America ?

          • kim April 7, 2017 at 2:14 am

            Thank you for your story which gives me a better perspective to where you are coming from since you have experienced such an atrocity in the illegal work places that do not treat the employees with dignity it seems and I really do understand your anger and hurt on the subject. I’ve always believed that there are two sides to stories being told and that there is truth somewhere in the middle of the two sided stories. You seem to be a strong survivor of some really bad experiences and again I thank you for your openness and strong spirit to persevere through this life and especially for all it entailed for you to become an American citizen. Whether you believe in God//Jesus or not; I do pray for you and yours to find HIS Peace to help you in all of your endeavors that this life has for us to deal with, in Jesus name. Take care. ps-in an earlier comment from you…..you referred to me as “sir” and I just want to set the record correct as i’m female and a grandma to four beautifully wonderful grandchildren with one great-grandchild on the way…..Blessings that I do not deserve for sure. God is Good!!! They are the reason for any passion whether negative or positive because I do not like what I see for their futures because of this world….you know.

          • Joseph G Watson April 4, 2017 at 12:08 am

            I have another solution. Move to Mexico

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 2:05 am

            I have a better one why don’t you leave I was born here, you’ll came here from afar. If you’re not comfortable living amongst our people you move go find a place where you will be happier.

          • kim April 4, 2017 at 2:13 am

            LOL Yep, “came from afar” AND WE AMERICANS WERE HERE FIRST AND ESTABLISHED THIS ONCE GREAT NATION THAT THE WHICH ILLEGALS AND THOSE WHO CAME AFTER ARE ROBBING US BLIND NOT TO MEANTION TERRORIZING AND RAPING AND KILLING.

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 6:24 pm

            Of course you did you are not the indigenous people of America.
            Where I live Spanish was the spoken language for two centuries before any english speaking people ever came here. The entire Southwest was part of Mexico. I mention it because you have selective amnesia about history. The rest is nothing but Trump rubbish. At least be original.

          • carroll wood April 4, 2017 at 12:41 pm

            amen

          • kim April 4, 2017 at 1:43 am

            hmmm….Most ranches and farms and or homes on the US side of the border are privately owned properties who have criminals, predominantly crossing through their home land and I don’t know about you but the evil is close enough to me and my family that I could not imagine how these property owners must feel with these scary evil people using their homes to trespass within feet of US families as they illegally enter the US. There have even been some of those homes invaded by illegals as they cross over.

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 2:16 am

            I beg to differ while true they do cross private lands most are passing seeking that American dream. Boy, they have no idea what awaits them, They are not scary nor evil they’re hungry. Some folks that live on or near the border will at times leave food and water for them along the way.
            I’ve already offered some viable solutions to stop this activity but the thread is long and you may have missed what I said.
            But it’s worth repeating I propose for our gov. to place sanctions on the people who hire these illegals with stiff fines and jail sentences for those who break the law. With no jobs to come here for they will stop coming.

          • kim April 4, 2017 at 2:36 am

            Okay….look…I do understand and have knowledge that there are good families that come here looking for a better way.. we agree on this no doubt. There is more violent people coming in here to either get free stuff and do NO work or their here to hurt others…..a lot of evil has come into this country and fast and people are suffering from it….people who have been here for generations….its not fair what is going on when we have US Veterans sick and on the street because the government chooses to help the wrong people and alienate their own who put their very lives on the line for this country…..they lost much only to turn it over to mostly people who come here to harm this republic. People seriously should memorize and or at least study our US Constitution but unfortunately the Constitution seems to have been used for bathroom tissue paper. Oh and I agree that employers need to stop with the hiring of illegals because they are cheating those who want to work to support their families with minimal pay, etc. under the table of course and those are usually the really rich who could afford to do things legal and pay taxes….but greed is sickness in this country and actually in the heart of men is where much sickness is for greed and perversion, etc.

          • carroll wood April 4, 2017 at 12:45 pm

            open hunting season on the southern border USAF Ret

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 6:38 pm

            For rabbits and small critters but to kill a human will land you in jail for many years. it’s sad to hear a vet talk that way.

          • carroll wood April 5, 2017 at 12:19 am

            spent a year in NAM not in jail yet. we are under attack, FI

          • rome44 April 5, 2017 at 3:38 pm

            I’m not going to pretend I know what you you’re saying. Can you express yourself clearly.

          • DaveyJ April 4, 2017 at 3:13 am

            A lot of wisdom in this post. As a former US Army Colonel this wall is starting to look like a complete boondoggle.

        • AKLady April 5, 2017 at 7:30 am Reply

          Mexico and the United States are not the only two borders involved.

      • gene smiith April 3, 2017 at 5:42 pm Reply

        All of the words in the world will not send the same message of RESOLVE TO PROTECT OUR BORDER as the wall will do. We can could make all sorts of laws, demands, promises and penalties but as now, they will just be ignored by those who believe they don’t apply to them, or they can use their cleverness to circumvent them…..not so with a wall which can and would be very intimidating and would send it’s own very clear message…..stay out.

        • kim April 4, 2017 at 2:18 am Reply

          and we should CUT their FREEBIES…..that would be a detour big time as well. They come for the free stuff and to take advantage of honest law abiding citizens and prey on our children, etc.

          • DaveyJ April 4, 2017 at 3:17 am

            Cutting Freebies? YES absolutely!!!

          • gene smiith April 4, 2017 at 4:01 am

            KIM….you are so right, however and as much sense as that makes, it would never happen with the bleeding hearts liberals trying to do more not less for these folks.
            They are future voters remember, as soon as possible they will be voting…ILLEGALLY of course, but voting for their beloved benefactors.
            Taking away anything is simply out of the question…..much the same as enforcing the E-Verify program for employers to follow….not happening. The taxpayers are the donkeys.

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 5:55 pm

            The way I see it you two are a good example of how this misinformation gets disseminated. You pass on to each other and you believe it as fact. Get your head out of these right wing blogs and arm yourselves with the correct information.
            Do this one thing for yourselves; read the actual laws concerning what it takes for an illegal to become legal and the length of time involved. It may surprise you to learn this could take 20-30 years for that to happen.
            You may also be right about being a donkey as we all know they are untrainable and good only as a beast of burden. But don’t be so hard on yourself. The actual burden is carried by these near slaves illegals who perform the dirty jobs Americans shy away from.

          • kim April 5, 2017 at 3:46 pm

            Perhaps….even a better detour to illegals entering illegally would be to uphold the already in place Laws with more Armed Border Agents that are ALLOWED to do their job and not have their hands tied to using their weapon when needed. Even just shots fired in the air would detour, if it were me, from wanting to cross the Border. just saying.

          • gene smiith April 5, 2017 at 4:29 pm

            I think your idea is valid….my point with the wall is that it makes a statement to anyone thinking of sneaking in. The WALL says….. stay out we are protecting our place.
            The Border agents would not have to put up with the constandt grind and could spend more time looking for drugs and those who would attempt to smuggle them in.
            I see a WALL as a warning, loud and clear and no doubt about our resolve.

          • kim April 5, 2017 at 5:11 pm

            I see where you’re coming from with the wall making a point for sure and I agree about the Border Agents, yet, still I feel we need more of them and if they could focus mostly on the drug cartels and smugglers, then perhaps it would aid in more of that evil to NOT come over the border into our streets for sure.

          • gene smiith April 5, 2017 at 5:31 pm

            Well Kim you made my point….Build the wall, there are already additional Agents being hired. Give those Agents the task of observing, stopping and apprehending smugglers….all the while the Wall stands in an open and loud message to those who would be thinking of sneaking in….they just might not.

      • Angry American April 3, 2017 at 7:51 pm Reply

        OK you mentioned the Berlin wall, so llet me correct you on one thing there is no comparison between the 2 for one simple reason the Berlin was was built to keep people in, the wall between here & Mexico would be built to keep people out more or less. America has always welcomed immigrants but we want to know who & or what they are, that is the main difference between legal & illegal immigration with the illegals we have no idea who or what their intentions are

        • rome44 April 3, 2017 at 8:45 pm Reply

          Thank you but I’ve already addressed that very issue, maybe you skipped it or ignored it. Either way a wall is an ugly sight to begin with whether its purpose is to keep people out or in.
          America does not need a wall.
          A simple solution to this problem is to enforce existing law and place sanctions on companies that have been employing illegals. Our side has a responsibility too. Our own citizens too can do something about it. When grocery shopping ask your grocer to direct you to the section where the produce and can goods are picked & canned by Americans. The same with poultry & meats where processed by Americans.
          Fine and jail or both employers for violating the law. And if Americans aren’t buying these products this whole business will disappear right before your very eyes.
          I’d like to see illegal immigration stopped but for different reasons, I hate to see the exploitation of these people they live and work near slavery conditions. Just like it’s not fashionable in this country to wear fur coats how can a human be worth less.
          That is what is currently happening but some folks would rather vilify people drawn here by American business.
          Back in the 40’s or 50’s (don’t hold me fast to that timeline) we had a program called “Brazero” people came here legally with a permit and went home after the harvest. There’s no reason why that program cannot be re-instituted. This way we control who comes and leaves.
          Incidentally, do you know that most terrorists fly in from overseas they don’t come across our southern border.

          • Angry American April 3, 2017 at 8:57 pm

            Yes I read where you addressed that issue after I replied to your first comment as for the wall it will help to keep drugs out of America as our youth is getting destroyed by illegal drugs coming over the southern border so that is about the only good thing about the wall not so much about illegals crossing but what they carry with them. The real ID act needs to be made law of the land & enforced too with heavy fines for any that break it The Brasero program was during the 40’s & it worked too in fact some of those people are still waiting to get paid for it it may not have made the news where you live but did here in S Ca.

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 1:05 am

            I place no faith in a wall when it comes to drugs there is simply too much profit in it. The wall would be no deterrent these guys will find ways to bring them across and they would cost a lot more. As you may well know, today many drugs are synthetic concoctions made right here at home.
            I was either too young or not born yet so I don’t know the particulars of the Brazero program. I only mentioned it as way that I believe would be effective in eliminating illegal crossings.

          • river April 3, 2017 at 10:05 pm

            You didn’t address the issue…. you created another burden for someone else to pay for…

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 2:19 am

            With so many comments and you provide so little I don’t know what you are referring to. Just what burden have I created for others?

          • river April 4, 2017 at 3:29 am

            With so many illegals in America you cannot understand the encroachment it causes for Citizens? You think they’re immigrants. Immigrants apply to come to America. They don’t sneak in and say, “Hey, I’m here. Where’s my welfare, free school, food stamps, college education, and by the way, I’m gonna burn your flag, spit on it, hate white people and demand my illegal rights. Ya see, you have racism all confused with legal immigration, you conflate the two issues…race-immigration, but that doesn’t matter.. its just about the color of a person’s skin, right? Furthermore, not only did your people LOSE this country, but it was also bought, paid for, w/American money. That wall is absolutely necessary for America to protect it’s sovereignty, to keep out invaders, to make life for Americans fair, not fair for any country that can pay a cartel for a free ride across the river and to take the wealth of Americans for granted…. get a clue.

          • kim April 4, 2017 at 10:47 am

            “Remember the Alamo!”-General Sam Houston

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 6:41 pm

            You’re getting stupid now. Our people received your ancestors with “Mi casa es su casa” it wasn’t meant literally. How about you remember that.

          • kim April 5, 2017 at 2:35 pm

            Can you please quit calling me “stupid”,?? Now, you say that **** “our people received your ancestors with “Mi casa es su casa” it wasn’t meant literally.”**** See, I beg to differ with your comment, as somewhere around 1824 or 1826 there was some sort of Treaty drawn up between the Unions and Mexico, with Mexico INVITING the families in from the already formed Unions to come to the Mexicans part of Texas and work the land as the Mexicans & the French & British never could make the land work for them; But those from the Union came and worked and made the land grow. Then Santa Ana rose up and tried to take that land back from the INVITED settler familes and that wouldn’t be enough, Antonio santa ana wanted all of Texas….Thus, the blood shed at the Alamo to hold off santa ana’s army until Houston’s Army was built up and then we know the history of Houston only taking something like 22 minutes to defeat santa ana and his army and this all happened during Texas joining the Union of Independence which made santa ana be an INVADER when he overkilled the men of the Alamo. So, you see your statement of “it wasn’t meant literally”, I guess that I can go with, since santa ana was an evil tyrant and probably did lie from the get go and only wanted the Unions ((later called Americans)) to do the work for them….who knows his reasoning since he ((santa ana)) was one that thought he descended from the sun god and that he could hear his dead relatives voices in his head. That tyrant was definitely not right his head and a very cruel man who treated your people….his own people, the Mexicans horrifically.

          • rome44 April 5, 2017 at 8:42 pm

            I went throughout the public school system and as a child I was fed the same story. It’s prophetically true the victor gets to write the story.
            I have to burst your bubble but the truth lays else where my dear. I learned that as an adult.
            The confiscation of the Southwest was already in the works. CA. was run over by illegal immigrants when it was a state of Mexico with a sitting governor. Thru wars and purchases it became America. Listen I’m not going litigate this history, you go ahead and believe what you’ve been taught it’s all water under the bridge.
            Suffice to say I’m a descendant of the Mexican people who became American citizens but were already living here. We have very deep roots in TX. As I like to tell the unknowing; Spanish was spoken here two (2) centuries before any english speaking europeans arrived.

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 9:22 pm

            No, tell me about the encroachment. I live here too, but I rarely see them. Many live near the fields where they pick crops I live in a big city.
            How do you know what I think? I’ve never said nor implied they are immigrants. I have always called it illegal immigration.
            Your next comments are just a figment your imagination as the events you mention aren’t even possible. Without legal documents no one can receive welfare benefits. That is a gross mischaracterization. To me it’s very apparent you don’t know much, you are just repeating the same garbage that’s been out there circulating for yrs. You haven’t even bothered to verify whether if any of what you’re repeating is even true.
            I’m not confused about anything it’s you mixing apples and oranges. You’re lumping many different issues together.
            Illegals aren’t out burning flags that would be our own citizens doing that. “I want my illegal rights” really guy now that is an asinine comment if I’ve ever heard one.
            Before you go any further be assured I am a native born American I know my rights, I am exercising free speech and I’m saying I don’t want a wall built. It’s my tax dollars too, I have a say so on how it’s being spent.
            I don’t have the same concerns over our sovereign as you do. And most assuredly there is no danger of invaders , what invaders ?
            Now, the last comment is totally confusing, just what country is paying cartels for a free ride across the river and take the wealth of Americans for granted!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what does that even mean? You say get a clue well at this point I need one to understand what you meant by those comments.
            I’m a pragmatist I see things for what they are, being an illegal is no cake walk. Do you ever watch PBS on the plight of illegals, their living and working conditions ? They are deplorable it’s like watching slaves at work.
            We here in America there are many organizations for the protection and preservation of animals. But the lives of illegals no one cares and we are a Christian nation with an abundance of love for one another ……….. yeah right.
            I, too, want to see it stopped because of the inhuman treatment of these people. If I had it in my power I would stop them at the border and turn them back. Don’t come here to be humiliated and abused and underpaid to boot.
            Our white citizens will turn their rage on you. They’ll work you like a slave and accuse you of receiving free bees from the gov. I would tell them; let them pick their own crops and do the dirty work. You too get a clue, so as to not come to me with your phony boloney I know better.

          • river April 4, 2017 at 9:39 pm

            How ignorant can you be, encroachment is everywhere, and of course, you try to conflate the issue with a study that proves your ignorance of the subject matter. Wasting time on someone as delusional as yourself is the very reason you have failed to assimilate as American.

          • rome44 April 5, 2017 at 2:15 pm

            How ignorant can I be ? I’m glad you asked, I would not be able to hold a candle to you.
            I need no assimilation moron I’m American born, I’m part of the American fabric. You are a very stupid person so are your attempts to characterize me as “other” If you can get it through your thick skull you are not any more American than I.

          • river April 5, 2017 at 3:19 pm

            Just like the screaming greasers who hate America, your screaming is as meaningless a contribution to America as a tape worm. Greaser colon worms need to get out of here before they get turned into a chicken burrito. And don’t ask me to describe how ignorant you are. I’m, not in the mood to write a novel.

          • rome44 April 5, 2017 at 8:55 pm

            There’s no reason for me to scream and I didn’t. It’s you, you are frustrated. The only one sliding on grease is YOU.
            Answer this MORON who made Taco Bell & Chipotle an American success story, It wasn’t me I don’t frequent those places but when I go past them who do I see inside eating why it’s none other than white teenagers & moms feeding their kids bean & cheese burritos.
            For somebody trying his damnedest to prove how intelligent you are you are not a very keen observer. See, I discovered another deficiency of you character.

          • river April 5, 2017 at 10:47 pm

            I don’t see where it takes a great deal of bragging or intellect to admit that the Big Cactus was as significant as a wall protecting our borders from greasers who scream welfare! the second they get here. You need to put a kick starter on your vibrator so you can occupy your mouth with something important.

          • rome44 April 6, 2017 at 8:56 pm

            Did you put a burrito in the micro wave ? “Big Cactus” now there’s good name for a Mexican restaurant for either AZ or NM. Must include Margaritas w/Mexican dinners.
            Now tell me again…………who is the greaser ?
            You never disappoint every time you open your mouth something stupid always comes out.
            Right, Regurgititus Repetitious ? Oh wait ! something is missing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what could it be emmmmm……. Got it
            your missing a last name I will now Christian you with the name MORONICUS. I like it, I hope you do too.

          • river April 6, 2017 at 10:35 pm

            The Big Cactus…. is Taco Time you 1/2 witted greaser. If you don’t know that, then some greaser contribution you’d make to America! Proves how incredibly dumb you are and misplaced as a greaser-American. Might as well stretch a condom over your puny head so you’d have a reason to be called a prick, instead of a mindless, 1/2 wit, greaser. By the way, 1/2 wit, it’s “christen”, not “Christian” you illiterate greaser.

          • rome44 April 7, 2017 at 4:00 pm

            Who you calling greaser Greaser the fact you know more about Mexican food and where to buy it proves my point. As I said earlier you do have frozen burritos in your freezer, you are probably eating one as you sit down to type the same s**t that’s been floating in that space where your brain should have been.
            Ok you caught a typo or I missed an auto correct but did you like your name you didn’t answer. In case you missed it I’ll type it again for you; “Regurgititus Repetitious Moronicus” Do you like it ? I think it’s a great moniker fits you to a “T”.
            I also noticed you failed to answer my question about Taco Bell & Chipotles clientele . Well, tell me, am I right or not ?
            Who is keeping them in business ? Even high end Mexican restaurant who do you see in there eating a Mexican plate and drinking Margaritas.
            I think it’s a save bet you won’t answer or you will do as usual answer with all you’ve got, gutter talk.
            Who is eating all the beans RRM ?

          • river April 7, 2017 at 10:40 pm

            Listen, Greaser, you Taco bending, tortilla n turd sammich chef, The Big Cactus and Taco Bell are American restaurants where even you can honestly get a job for yourself instead of soaking Americans for welfare and refried beans for your chain gang family. Although, even a part time, historical greaser knows that real Mexican food doesn’t even resemble the low grade dog food your relatives serve at these joints. Which establishes the fact that you’re too damned dumb to even know how your cave dwelling ancestors even got as far north as Baja without having real employment other than sitting atop an organ grinders music box and doing the Macarena for spare change on a sidewalk in Algodones, MeheeCo. Now sit down and shad up!!! you mouth, Greaser!!!, or better yet go find some of your conies and rifle some hub caps for a living.

          • rome44 April 10, 2017 at 3:48 pm

            I walked away from my PC and my mom happened to read your comments. She was aghast and screamed; “Ay Dios Mio” (OMG) is this a real person ? Yes, mom he very real he’s out there somewhere USA. And why are you even speaking with him ? To pick his brain to expose him to show others (My friends) what the sickness of racism does to people.
            She was accompanied by her best friend & neighbor (A white woman) who turned red with embarrassment that one of her own would address someone you don’t know anything about with such vile language.
            My mom being a very religious person thinks you are possessed by either the devil or a demon I didn’t quite understand her but she asked me to tell you to recite 100 “Hail Mary’s” and 30 “Lords Prayers” And to ask Jesus for forgiveness and to cleanse the evil that that lives there.
            I told her there’s no demon involved, there is a rational explanation for your behavior. I believe yours is a learned behavior developed growing up in a home where this was the norm.
            But it’s not normal behavior it has to cause you misery. I believe a person walking around on a daily basis infuriated over other humans different from you occupying the same space is a psychologically broken individual.
            This time for sure I don’t see any further contact with you will serve any purpose. I’ve heard everything you have to say, you’ve exhausted every word of your limited vocabulary and juggling the same words around is not moving this conversation any further. So good-bye.

          • river April 10, 2017 at 4:35 pm

            I didn’t even read your response, after mommy unlocked your basement door and allowed you onto her computer, I just assumed that you would dress up, put on your make up, turn up the Aerosmith, tuck your little weiner between your legs while cursing at It in your basement pit and threaten It if It harms precious. Ta Ta for now, Buffalo Bill.

          • kim April 4, 2017 at 1:47 am

            when it comes to life or death then the “ugly sight” of a wall is beyond irrelevant. geez…

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 2:26 am

            Well ,sir, the issue is not about life and death for us, anyway, but for people coming here illegally they make perilous journeys crossing deserts many dying along the paths.
            Cut the jobs for them then there’s no reason for them to come here, thus no need for a wall.

          • kim April 4, 2017 at 2:46 am

            umm…yes the murder rate has risen and quite a few Hispanics (illegal) are the ones caught and or suspected and or charged for rape and murder many cases…..look them up. Even in the high schools there was just an incident last week or 2 ago with teenagers raping a 13 or 14 year old girl IN SCHOOL boys bathroom….that’s just one example. So yes it is a life or death situation for US citizens and you are right about the dangers that women and children go through on their trek to even get here. Drug cartel people being paid to bring children without parents in….what do you think happens to those precious innocent children on the trip here with NO adult to protect them….too many horror stories on both sides for sure.

          • kim April 4, 2017 at 2:14 am

            LOL where in the world do you get your stats…..they are too coming across the southern border…..huh?

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 2:22 am

            What stats did I provide ? All I said is; so far all terrorists have flown here from other parts of the world I stand by that.

          • kim April 4, 2017 at 2:54 am

            Well, nope….terrorists are sliding in here with the illegal Hispanics and with the so called refugees as well. Man, on top of the illegal issues…..we also got “resettlement jhad” occurring as well. Massive Culture clash will bring a society down. Especially when they want their own law and will not ascimilate to a any western country that they themselves say that they HATE. Look at Europe…..they are calling it Eurasia these days as the culture is wiping out the Brits, French and all of the rapes in Sweden is TRUE, and replacing with their own ideology. Invasion is what is going on in the US as well…..Globalists are doing this on purpose to bring sovereign nations to their knees.

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 6:48 pm

            Kim, stop it. There is no hope for people like you. Think whatever you want. It’s apparent to me by now communicating with you is impossible.

          • kim April 4, 2017 at 3:11 am

            I probably should have used the word your facts…stats….same thing, but the definition means factual and i’m not sure that your facts are factual.

          • river April 4, 2017 at 2:29 pm

            We need a “TURN IN THE GREASER” program where Americans get paid back what the leeches take from us. $100/per head.

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 6:46 pm

            Well, put you money where your mouth is sucker, lets see how far that gets you. What do they take from you ? Judging from your comments you are probably a derelict with little to no education, you don’t even have the wit to carry an intelligent conversation.

          • river April 4, 2017 at 8:44 pm

            Not so well put, Beaner, I’m sure that I’m better educated than you. That encroachment includes increased welfare, education taxes, housing costs, increased marketing costs for business, services to state school systems, additional medical costs, etc, all of which is levied on white people, whom I’m sure you hate, coming from a colored snowflake…. the list is obviously too big for your limited IQ. Yet since your greatest educational and employment skill would lend to you a fabulous skill of head cook at Taco Time, I’m sure you intellect will gain you a fine future out OUR expense, LOSER!!!

          • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 9:33 pm

            You are about as stupid as stupid can get. The low level of your vocabulary betrays you. You are the actual loser you hate others because of your own failures. You have no idea who I am nor anything about me. All you do is regurgitate like a farm animal the same crap day after day. I now renamed you “Regurititus Repetitious. good bye loser.

          • river April 4, 2017 at 10:10 pm

            Hey Stupid, here’s a precious stat for you: MoonBeam has spent $25 billion aiding, abetting and harboring your relatives instead of reinforcing statewide dams, which in their erosive state will make homeless, thousands of Californians. In addition to squandering precious water reserves, much needed by the state. Then the freak wants CA and the rest of the US to bail out his lunacy. Trump says, ” go pound sand, or some illegals”, and so should idiots like you.

          • rome44 April 5, 2017 at 2:20 pm

            I stand by my previous answer to you.

      • river April 3, 2017 at 9:59 pm Reply

        Yea, well, we did come here and kicked your greaser ass outa here….. now go away… You want it back…. Come and take it!!

        • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 12:56 am Reply

          Shut up stupid who in the hell is we ? You trying to take credit for something you had no part of.
          It’s obvious you don’t even know history. We never left you ignorant moron.

      • Joseph G Watson April 4, 2017 at 12:06 am Reply

        troll.

        • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 2:27 am Reply

          Aw, you hurt me so bad I don’t know if I’ll ever recover.

      • susan April 5, 2017 at 12:37 am Reply

        Typical mexican reply, it is not just mexicans but to keep out ms13 gangs an terriost mexico has a southern border wall. So get a different argument snowflake

        • rome44 April 5, 2017 at 4:13 pm Reply

          I have some yellow snow flakes for you. It’s not a Mexican reply dumbass but an American one.
          Who uttered these words: When Mexico sends its people they are not sending us their best they’re bringing drugs, crime and they are rapists. That was his target. M-13 is a Salvadorian gang, he did not address them. You took it upon yourself to include them. That’s fine, lets give them a look. Cities where this gang operate out of starting with Los Angeles, their police dept. has a gang task force they know who these hoodlums are and where to find them. Meaning they are here already. When the will is there they can round them up and deport them the hell out of here.
          Why bring that up to me what the hell can I do about it. If it effects you or bothers you go do something about it.
          You can start by petitioning your representatives to place sanctions on employers that hire illegals that would put a huge dent on this activity might even dry it up. Having no jobs to come to they will simply stop coming. Makes sense to me and would save billions of taxpayer money for a wall.

      • AKLady April 5, 2017 at 7:27 am Reply

        Exactly. It is always the indigenous people who get the short end of the deal. The United States has broken every treaty, every deal, every promise made to America’s First People.

        • rome44 April 5, 2017 at 5:25 pm Reply

          Thank you, as you can see from these conversations that it pays to be informed I instill the same to my kids, family and friends. These people created their own versions of history.
          One even said to me “we were here first” now how illiterate is this individual to utter such nonsense. She thinks of America as this uninhabited continent laying dormant for millions of years until her ancestors arrived to populate it.
          And you’re right about broken promises the indigenous Americans called them men that spoke with forked tongues.
          They have an ability to do that and still doing it today, they can hold two opposing ideas simultaneously.
          I fight with them all the time.

          • AKLady April 5, 2017 at 10:34 pm

            Amen. I agree 100%. No amount of lies can erase fact. However not much history is taught in our schools t hese days.

      • Rob McMeekin April 6, 2017 at 4:59 pm Reply

        I’ve got a better idea let’s build towers one every mile and man them with snipers armed with barret 50 cal rifles setup with the best day and night optics money can buy with order’s to shoot to kill and we can install signs and the same sensors that are used by the area 51 base. That way the border patrol officers don’t have to risk their lives chasing illegals and drug smugglers they can just wait for them to enter the kill zone.

        • rome44 April 6, 2017 at 5:36 pm Reply

          That is an atrocious idea. You want turn us into Fortress America ? This country wasn’t found on these type of idea.
          Do you realize we are $18 trillion in debt, now Trump wants to spend 52 billion on our military and this boondoggle will cost us another $50 Billion and typical of gov. projects they never come under budget, they usually cost 3-10 times in over runs.
          My proposal doesn’t require any chasing, enforce the law on employers that hire illegals and this activity drys up on it’s own.
          As for the drug trade, as long as our citizens keep using drugs and willing to pay whatever price they have to pay someone will find a way around that wall and bring them in.
          It’s the basic law of supply and demand.
          You do know or at least I hope you know we are moving into the age of drones with so much profit in drugs how long do you think it will take for us to see drones flying over the wall ? I’m telling you this is a big waste of taxpayer money which we don’t have, the drones will render the wall useless.

    • GODBlessRealAmerica! April 29, 2017 at 9:03 pm Reply

      Amen! Liberalism is evil and ignorant! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/76ec66c853be353a39f9eee200fc97a5c3a7028c56c42eabf1cc9e7f92d838b4.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bd04e5ee9ad9a6f89928248f35f9875a1e4879e45a2394773438bc9539d99b74.jpg

    • Kol May 3, 2017 at 4:10 pm Reply

      Here’s a sentence, and it doesn’t use that word. What you said really sounds amazingly STUPID! Hey, that was another sentence, wasn’t it? Here’s 4 in a row that don’t use that word.

      You’re too stupid to insult – YouTube

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      • Thomjeff May 3, 2017 at 8:43 pm Reply

        Let me rephrase that. If liberals couldn’t use the words racist or stupid they couldn’t put a sentence together.
        How’s that, troll?

        • Kol May 3, 2017 at 8:49 pm Reply

          As I said earlier…

          YOU ARE LITERALLY TOO STUPID TO INSULT – YouTube

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          “YOU ARE LITERALLY TOO STUPID TO INSULT.” QUOTE FROM THE HANGOVER.

          • Thomjeff May 3, 2017 at 9:00 pm

            So what’s your excuse troll?

          • Kol May 3, 2017 at 9:09 pm

            I enjoy laughing at right wing extremist nutty people who act like a jackass, Eeyore.
            Bray some more! LOL!

        • Kol May 3, 2017 at 8:51 pm Reply

          Right-wingers are less intelligent than left wingers, says controversial …

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/…/Right-wingers-intelligent-left-wingers-says-controversial-stud...

          Jan 31, 2016 – RIGHTMINDS: Does a low IQ make you right-wing? That depends on how you define left and right As scientists discover how to ‘translate’ …

          Study links low intelligence with right-wing beliefs – The Globe and …

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          Dec 20, 2015 – Researchers have found a possible explanation for why certain people are prejudiced: they’re less intelligent. Children with lower general …

          Study links low intelligence with right-wing beliefs – The Globe and Mail

          http://www.theglobeandmail.com › Life › The Hot Button Blog

          Feb 3, 2012 – Children with lower general intelligence are more likely to become prejudiced as … explain is brought about by adopting right-wing ideologies.

          • Thomjeff May 4, 2017 at 1:28 am

            I guess that explains why you are so prejudice.

          • Kol May 4, 2017 at 1:35 am

            Right wing extremism is prejudice. I am not prejudiced.

            And by the way, you should have said “so prejudiced”… with a “d” at the end. You don’t even know correct grammar??? LOL!

  6. Whaledriver April 3, 2017 at 2:20 pm Reply

    Hiring a Latino contractor a bad idea? As long as they don’t build The Wall with doors — and they don’t specialize in excavating tunnels — why should we care who wins the contract?

  7. DeAnna Burns April 3, 2017 at 2:28 pm Reply

    Ten Hispanic companies shouldn’t worry. By the time the wall is done there ill be many replacements in the Cal. Political field. Also many patriotic people will take it a point to hire them next time they want their house or offices built. Not to mention f they do a good job Trump will hire them to do infrastructure.

    • DeAnna Burns April 3, 2017 at 2:29 pm Reply

      Meant to say THE Hispanic Co. shouldn’t worry. My phone… Ugh! 🙂

  8. DeAnna Burns April 3, 2017 at 2:31 pm Reply

    The Hispanic companies shouldn’t worry. By the time the wall is built many of the California political heads will have been replaced period also many patriotic citizens will make it a point to hire them next time they want to build their house or office. Also if they do a good job Trump is very loyal I will probably hire them for infrastructure.

    • rome44 April 3, 2017 at 5:00 pm Reply

      Thinking in a vacuum again ? Your scenario exists in your imagination. Apparently you haven’t heard the words of Jerry Brown.
      What you propose is the equivalent of asking the Palestinians to build their own barricades to wall themselves in.
      I don’t support Trumps ugly wall it very expensive and it’s not the answer.
      You want to stop illegal immigration place sanctions on employers and this activity will stop. Curb Americans insatiable appetite for drugs and they will stop bringing them in.

      • kim April 4, 2017 at 2:02 am Reply

        Nope the best idea is for them to stay out and or go home if already here. You all want to turn this country into what you all destroyed of your own…..FORGET IT……we will not allow it to get that far no matter what silly meaningless (now) words that you use.

      • DeAnna Burns April 7, 2017 at 10:46 pm Reply

        I agree about sanctions. But the wall will be built and it will be great and have strong impact on human trafficking and drugs!

      • DeAnna Burns June 16, 2017 at 11:43 pm Reply

        I agree about sanctions etc. But I want the wall! And so do MOST of the legal Hispanics! And with GOOD REASON! You try living somewhere where your daughters are kidnapped! And the Hispanic companies that are bidding also want it!

        • rome44 June 17, 2017 at 6:34 pm Reply

          That’s not what I’m listening to on spanish radio. Americans of Hispanic descent don’t want the wall. Where I live we are surrounded by illegals. And I can say unequivocally no one around here fears our daughters being kidnapped or sexually abused. I have two teen granddaughters I’ve always cautioned them to be alert for white Americans who have a much higher propensity for kidnapping young girls than any illegal. So, what you are saying is unnecessarily untrue.
          Most are families themselves they work hard to support their families just as we do.
          Enforcing current law against hiring illegals stops illegal immigration dead on its tracks. There is no need for a wall, what kind of message does it send ? That we are hostile to our neighbors ? A wall is a black eye on America.

        • DeAnna Burns June 17, 2017 at 6:57 pm Reply

          You should honestly do some research on “Human Trafficking” The wall would actually protect the immigrants too! If there were a wall up they would be much less likely to try the journey to the states to try to sneak in, because what is happening is they end up in the small towns where the cartels are in charge and they just do what they want with these poor immigrants. Please read this! http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/01/deadly-human-trafficking-business-mexico-border-160117073423022.html

  9. Pete-fus April 3, 2017 at 2:57 pm Reply

    Funny how the lib democrats point at conservatives and call us (n*a*z*i*s), but it is they themselves who act like hitlers brown shirt enforcers. They threaten, intimidate, attack, and demonize, and then have the gall to have their MainStreamMedia lap dogs tell everyone that it is conservatives who are violent. What a pack of commie hypocrites!

    • Angry American April 3, 2017 at 8:00 pm Reply

      That is why liberalism is a mental disorder

  10. andrew April 3, 2017 at 2:59 pm Reply

    What happened to the FACT that this wall has already been APPROVED & FINANCED, but yet to be actually built… How in the hell many times to Americans have to pay for this wall anyway ??

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    • jreg9304 April 3, 2017 at 3:56 pm Reply

      Since we are paying for it, we want a highly reinforced, very high, concrete and steel wall built, no skimping on materials!

      • rome44 April 3, 2017 at 4:44 pm Reply

        And you don’t want to be seen as racist my my.

        • kim April 4, 2017 at 2:00 am Reply

          race has nothing to do with this and you know it……its just the only shock word folks like you throw around to where it means NOTHING anymore.

      • Angry American April 3, 2017 at 7:59 pm Reply

        I saw a wall that was for a marine stockade, they had the right idea to deter people from climbing over it. A very simple method to discourage anyone from trying they simply embedded thick sharp broken glass into the concrete, when I saw it I thought that only a moron would try to climb that structure. Besides it would probably give the lefties something to scream about & maybe give shumer a heart attack, yet another benefit lol

    • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 6:08 pm Reply

      Au contriare my friend it is the prime example of racism. In the end it is all for naught, with over 7 billion humans alive on the planet and counting. They will be rendered useless.

  11. Doxie April 3, 2017 at 5:22 pm Reply

    Maybe the DemoNazis & drug cartels are most likely behind the threats. You know the Democrats/DemoNazis; think and say as we do or we will crack your skull…..that’s their idea of tolerance.

    • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 6:09 pm Reply

      Sure bugsy what you said.

  12. Nina Ferguson April 3, 2017 at 9:19 pm Reply

    Why is everyone threatening the lives of owners who bid on the project and are Hispanic and have a lot of Hispanic employees. They are trying to get their company working so that they can all feed their employees and their families. To have the loony toons start screaming and making threats, this is so stupid. GROW UP

    • kim April 4, 2017 at 2:06 am Reply

      Probably because folks are tired of being called racists, etc. and paying taxes for illegals when I as a citizen CAN NOT afford health care anymore…..illegals and so called refugees get FREE health care….food….housing…..Americans can only take so much and this has been put upon the citizens for far too long as it is.

  13. Joseph Nicholas Toth Jr. April 3, 2017 at 9:26 pm Reply

    When push comes to shove, this is the time to shove back hard .I am sick of letting thugs rule the boost !

  14. watchman48 April 4, 2017 at 12:43 am Reply

    I don’t know whether it would be legal or not but my suggestion to Pres. Trump is, call upon the BEST of the BEST to do the job right…. The United States Navy Seabee’s

    • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 8:28 pm Reply

      What ? And put working Americans out of work !!!!

      • watchman48 April 5, 2017 at 12:30 am Reply

        Duh, are not our soldiers working Americans and the Seabees are always well armed and experienced in fighting.

        • rome44 April 5, 2017 at 3:41 pm Reply

          Yes sir, their mission is to prepare for war. Trumps wall is a civil matter to be performed by civilians.

          • watchman48 April 5, 2017 at 4:03 pm

            Well, in reality we are at war, for our way of living and maybe our very survival….

          • rome44 April 6, 2017 at 6:18 pm

            Aren’t we being a bit paranoid. A war is fought by armies, what armed force are we at war with ? War is a strong word what we have is a problem with a solution. But war ? That’s a bit far fetched.

          • watchman48 April 6, 2017 at 11:11 pm

            The Bible says we are always at war and it calls this a spiritual war “Good vs Evil…” You can look at this anyway you chose but the reality is that there are people dying all across US today… Keep your head buried in the sand friend and you or one of your loved ones will be a causality one day, I pray that doesn’t happen to you but it is happening all around us…
            God has never ever failed to send His warnings of destruction to a nation nor to it’s people hoping that the hearts of the people might turn to Him… God has been warning USA since the mid 1980s but very few are listening. Aug. 1994 I began telling everyone I could that the terrorist were coming back to “HIT” the #2 WTC Tower again and when they do they will “TAKE” it all the way down to the ground… I spoke this warning out for seven years until the morning of Sept. 11, 2001. I now tell how the 9/11/01 attack was the first of three major attacks for USA. The second will be approx. 1000 times greater and the final will be like none this world has ever seen. if your interested you can Google: “watchman48 RFC Newsletter #101.” If you don’t believe in an all knowing God just Google: “watchman48 The Greater Message.”

          • rome44 April 7, 2017 at 4:25 pm

            Ok, now I get the Watchman name. It’s very safe to say we are always at war because we alway are. I’m very conscious of people dying everyday not only in America but the world over. Its part of our human experience since the beginning of time. We are all going to die in any number of ways, but we are all going to die.
            As opposed to your way of thinking or believing how does it serve us for a God to send warnings ? What the world needs is divine intervention.
            People have been predicting the end of the world seems like forever. And the world does whatever it’s going to do irrespective of mans predictions or what messages he thinks he receives from a god.
            In the last 4-5 days the world witnessed an atrocity in Syria where people were gassed they died a horrific death. I could go back in time and point to events of mans inhumanity to man to the beginning and no god has ever intervened in human events.
            Suffice to tell you I don’t believe in deities there is just no evidence of it.

          • watchman48 April 8, 2017 at 1:45 am

            Yes, I agree that people throughout man’s history have made billions of predicts and most have never came true… But those that didn’t come true were not given by God. God given prophecies have never failed to come true, many as pertaining to the END TIMES are on going and they will most definitely come true in God’s timing not man’s timing. The vast majority in the world can’t understand nor comprehend this because they haven’t accepted the truth found within the Bible.
            So, can you give me some idea as to how much you have searched for the evidence of there being a God? How many times have you read through the Bible searching for this evidence? There is actually more scientific evidence to God’s existence than there is to there not being a God.

            Man will always claimed that science proves the truth of his theories… Thus, logically we can theorize that if the science doesn’t back up the theory presented by man than there can be no truth to that particular theory which was presented.
            Now let’s talk of scientific facts – The vast majority of liberals deny these scientific facts pertaining to the Earth, our Universe, Medicine, Science, Chemistry , Physics, Astronomy, Archaeology and Prophecies ( http://www.inplainsite.org/html/scientific_facts_in_the_bible.html ) found within the pages of the Bible yet they were written approx. 2000 years ago to as much as 3500 years ago or so…. This could have only happen by the inspiration of an all knowing and loving God guiding the hands of the ancient prophets just as the Bible tells us.

            Evidently you have never read the history of Moses and Pharaoh’s army defeat at the Red Sea in the Book of Exodus nor of Gideon and his army of 300 who slaughter a Midianites army of 120,000 in the Book of Judges, and that is just two of many events in man’s history of God’s divine inventions.

            God’s warnings to man of destructive events are given because He hopes that the hearts of men might turn to Him…
            If you want to really understand the meaning and job of a watchman than read Ezekiel 33:1-20.
            Considering you being a loving father to your children, would you not want to warn them if you saw them doing something that could harm them…. A father can’t force stubborn children to always obey… And if after many years of warnings your children still refused to heed your warnings than you allow them to reap the consequences of their actions… God has sent His warning to USA since 1985 or so and USA still refuses to listen, thus USA days are fast approaching and we will see her destruction very soon now…

          • rome44 April 10, 2017 at 5:43 pm

            To the mind of an ardent believer and how they rationalize failed prophesies. No prophesy outside the bible has ever come to fruition. What I find amusing if they don’t come true they weren’t gods. But tell me what prophesy has ever come from outside the bible?
            Matt: 16:28 (KJV) Verily I say unto you,There will be some standing here, which will not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. This is Jesus speaking to his disciples, he is speaking in the present tense. This never came to pass. See in this the church fathers rearranged the gospels as in 1 Thessalonians 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
            There are other similar sayings in other gospels providing cover for Jesus’s failed prediction.
            You see Watchman If I can’t trust mans word about Jesus because it was mere men talking about Jesus why should I trust mens prediction about end times. But most certainly it isn’t a prophesy we can say came true. Waiting for it is nothing but speculation. The world (earth) will do what it’s going to do irrespective of gods or men that’s what I believe. I was raised in a religious home where the fear of god was instilled into me, but I had my reservations about burning in hell for not believing or that humans can come back from the dead. Before you come back with; Jesus was the son of god, let me say this: he was born as any human thus he was incarnate subject to the laws of nature in every respect. But being that my soul was at stake I did begin to read the bible to verify I was being told the truth. I would say I read and studied that book for a period of 40 yrs. or so.
            In the process I read many things I had no understanding of. I found help in reading source material relating the history of who wrote the bible. To my surprise the story of Jesus was in oral tradition for 50-60 years before the church fathers started writing it down on parchment. UNBELIEVABLE. Totally different than what I had been taught.
            We’re in total disagreement in that science can be used to verify prophesies, however, science is already talking about the “god particle” but certainly this is an entirely new principle and it has a long time to go. Science is a search, it goes wherever discovery takes it. Religion is based on laid out set of predetermined principles. If due to the course of scientific discovery a bible story is dispelled so be it.
            I believe that as a human race we must look towards the future. The days of praying to the rain gods, the crops gods and a plethora of gods is over. We are down to one god, well two gods if one is to believe that the murderous tyrant of the old testament has been supplanted by a loving one from the new testament.
            You long for another world, a utopia so to speak, while I look to making it through this one.
            If there is a god he should have interceded in human affairs a long time ago. Man has yet to learn to live in harmony with each other, we experienced wars, famines and calamities in which billions of humans have died. Worst of all wars. Mans inhumanity to man as we just witnessed in Syria.
            We are here by ourselves and we must solve these issues ourselves or we parish.

          • watchman48 April 11, 2017 at 3:36 pm

            Your failures are rooted in your lack of understanding and your comprehension of an all knowing and all powerful God. Our thoughts and plans are limited to our understanding and knowledge… There is no limits on the One who spoke the very existence of the universe into being and then set it in motion…. God formed the first man out of the dust of the ground and He knows your every thoughts, and you think you can limit God? That is really laughable!

            [I believe that as a human race we must look towards the future.] [Jesus was the son of god, let me say this: he was born as any human thus he was incarnate subject to the laws of nature in every respect.] God is not subjected to the laws of nature and He has proven this thousands of times over…. You are certainly welcome to believe however you wish but if your belief is not in line with the Holy Scriptures than that belief is void and of no use to you nor anyone else.

            God has given men messages throughout all of man’s history. He can reveal things to man’s mind, He can literally speak to you though the Holy Spirit, (This He has done to me several times) and the Holy Spirit can literally speak through your lips to others (And He has done this several times to me).

            Neither you nor any man will ever fully understand God. Knowing that God existence is all that is needed for faith and to expand that faith takes time studying His WORD and communicating with Him through prayer. Sadly most Christians are reluctant to humble themselves before God in prayer nor take the time required to read the Bible (It only takes 15min of reading per-day to read through the Bible in one year).

            Many have asked me why has God given me so many messages and answered prayers…. I wish I knew, it certainly isn’t because I am more righteous because I am not and I am definitely not smarter than anyone else…. I am a sinner just like everyone else; maybe it because I admit we all are well deserving of His Wrath for our sins… I do not back down when He presented a task; will, in my ignorance I have in the past argued with Him and I tried to ignore Him but He never gave up on me… thus I finally came around to do as He asked.. And afterwards I gave Him the praise that was due Him.

            We know for a fact that the Book of Revelation was written by the Apostle John on the Isle of Patmos most likely 50-60 years after the Resurrection but to claim that the rest of the New Testament was written 50-60 years after Christ is highly presumptuous… Luke interviewed many eye witnesses to the life, death and resurrection of Jesus to enable him to write an accurate account of His life.. Most of the New Testament was written with first person knowledge of the facts..

            Have you not ever read the Book of Revelation, the Apostle John saw Jesus come into this Kingdom in a vision while on the isle of Patmos… You should read Isaiah 6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.

            [If there is a god he should have interceded in human affairs a long time ago.] Careful, in saying this you are judging God. Man can’t see the whole picture nor know the whole story or the reasoning that God does what He does unless He reveals it to you.
            To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion. A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels: To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

          • rome44 April 11, 2017 at 6:46 pm

            Lets get one thing straight, I don’t have failures rooted in misunderstanding I’ve read enough of it to say the bible was written by men in the traditions of man. It has flaws, errors, anachronisms and down right contradictions, too numerous for this venue which I decline to discuss anyway.
            I base my opinions on what I’ve learned so far. This god which you have accepted as universal started out as the tribal god of Moses, today as you said created our world. But when I study the matter using the knowledge accumulated by men in all of our sciences the story in Genesis has been rendered moot. Case in point: he separated the waters from above the firmament to the waters below the firmament and opened windows to release this water in the form of rain. Only an ignorant people could form such a story with his limited knowledge of our natural world.
            There are two stories of creation in Gen. you chose the DUST for the creation of man. The second story god created both of them at the same time in his IMAGE. These are two stories written by different authors at different times and merged by careless people. It has created much confusion throughout history. An Omnipotent and Omniscient god would not have inspired man to write an erroneous account of his creation. The same can be said about the other numerous errors in the bible.
            If Jesus was not subject to the laws of our natural world he would not have bled. Personally, sending your son to die in such horrific manner to save humans is so bizarre it boggles my mind, you are god creator of worlds, humans and all other things and you can’t think of a better way to control your creatures ? Besides what kind of message is that ? Why is there always death when this god gets involved in human affairs?
            The rest of your comments are by your very own admission works of a god you don’t understand. You will just wish and hope for the rest of your life.
            As for the rest of us we have no choice but to forge forward we must venture, investigate and research to advance ourselves in discovery of all sciences for the betterment of humanity. We can’t sit idle waiting for a mythical god to come and do it for us.

          • watchman48 April 11, 2017 at 9:12 pm

            Started out as the tribal god of Moses? Yeah, you read enough of the Bible to form your opinions of subjects you really know nothing about because of a closed mind.
            Typical reply from non-Christians is most always filled with attacks that the Bible is fill with errors and contradicts too numerous to mention.

            The non-Christians are always claiming that the Christians are intolerant on every issue under the sun but in reality it is the non-Christians that are closed minded not allowing or listening to other possibilities.
            When the scientific facts are presented or pointed out to the non-Christians they most always become so belligerent, hurtful and prideful they can’t begin to consider themselves of being wrong on any subject.
            For someone who says he’s read enough of the Bible you don’t even know that the wages of sin is death; all have sinned and all are worthy of death and will die (Will, excluding those that will soon be raptured).

            Sin entered into the world through one man and only by man can that sin be eradicated or defeated. A blood sacrifice had to be made to atone for Adam first sin to cover his nakedness. But an animal’s blood sacrifice is only a temporary sacrifice… For this reason Jesus left the Father to be born of a woman, thus He is fully God and fully man.

            In Exodus 12:23 We are told: For the Lord will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the Lord will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.

            Jesus became the sacrificial Lamb but death had no hold on Jesus because He had never sinned.
            Today it is only Jesus’ blood that washes away the sins of those that accept Him as their LORD and Savior.
            You will bow before Jesus, if not as your LORD and Savior, than most assuredly as your Judge and His words, “Depart from Me, I never knew you,” will ring in your ears for all eternity.

          • rome44 April 12, 2017 at 1:01 am

            Yes, I use the term tribal god because he was only known to Moses, the rest of that world did not. We are speaking of the world of polytheism. Any student of ancient history would know that.
            Mine is not a closed mind, to the contrary I approach the subject with anticipation and curiosity. I also study the matter dispassionately, I don’t allow my emotions to weigh in, I feel emotions would cloud my judgements.
            It is not my intent to attack the bible only I only scrutinize it for accuracy.
            That the bible contains errors is not my doing they are simply there uncovered by many people at various times throughout its history.
            I believe you have veered off the subject by claiming a feud between non christians and christians I certainly don’t view my studies of the bible as such. What I mean is it’s between me and the bible and not against christians. Simply because you didn’t take part in writing it. And assuredly it has nothing to do with intolerance. You have the freedom to believe as you wish, I’m not attacking you or any christian for that matter.
            Since I’m more prone to believe scientists why would I become belligerent, hurtful and prideful ? I don’t get what you mean by that.
            I have read your reference to the “wages of sin is death” whether I sin or not death is inevitable for all humans. I know what you’ll say, the body dies but your soul lives on and thats who will receive the punishment at judgment day. I’m familiar with scripture when I come across some part I’m not familiar with I will say so, as no man can possibly know it all.
            The rest of your comments I consider preaching and the contents I’m quite familiar with.
            I believe Genesis is allegorical or mythology not to be taken literally, for me at least. So this business of sin entering the world through Adam is biblical nonsense. Why should animals be killed by god to provide coats for Adam and Eve? Why provide the temptation, its like me telling my child you can play with these toys but this particular one you must not touch at anytime if you do you will be punished. What have I just done ? I have just planted a seed in his head and aroused my child’s curiosity. Guess what he is going to do ? Its human nature at work. God should have known that.
            Egyptians were a more advanced civilization good record keepers (Hieroglyphs) they make no mention of Moses nor the Exodus much less the supernatural calamities that supposedly befell them.
            I know the theology behind salvation I just cannot subscribe to it.
            As I said to you before there is no need for a death to occur god or otherwise to get my attention. If there is a deity of all mankind where is he ? I mentioned wars, famine and calamities that befall mankind you didn’t touch any of those subjects you just went on to other subjects that were not in question. Go figure.

  15. concerned April 4, 2017 at 5:28 am Reply

    They are Americans now and want to work, plus protect their country. Leave them alone

  16. The Capatin April 4, 2017 at 9:01 am Reply

    No, those that facilitate/encourage/endorse illegal entry and drug smuggling are the traitors. Those that bid to build the wall are simply entrepreneurs.

    • rome44 April 4, 2017 at 8:30 pm Reply

      That’s right Capatin what you said.

  17. watchman48 April 4, 2017 at 2:25 pm Reply

    If possible I think Pres. Trump should call upon the best of the best, the United States Navy Seabees to build our wall

    • Ron April 4, 2017 at 2:55 pm Reply

      Can Do

  18. roboteq April 5, 2017 at 5:21 am Reply

    If company owners and workers are American citizens, why does their ethnicity matter. Americans, not Blacks, Whites, Hispanics or Asians will be building a wall to protect Americans. There is no reason this should be considered a racial issue.

  19. AKLady April 5, 2017 at 7:21 am Reply

    MAKE AMERICA HATE AGAIN.
    Trump’s America, is it not beautiful to behold. We’ve time-traveled 60 years into the past. Racism and bigotry are now once again acceptable. Muslims, Hispanics … more and more targets, every day that passes.

  20. AKLady April 5, 2017 at 7:32 am Reply

    NO WALL ON THE
    TOHONO O’ODHAN RESERVATION.

    NO MORE LIES.
    NO MORE BROKEN PROMISES.
    NO MORW BROKEN AGREEMENTS.

  21. herculesx April 5, 2017 at 1:42 pm Reply

    Hey if the Penna Group is the Low Bid then let them Build the Wall,Just build it ASAP. The USA is the Land of the Free and Home of The Brave. Everyone is Welcome(Except Criminals or People with Criminal Intent) But you Have to Wait your Turn ,You Just can’t Sneak in Like a Thief in the Night ! 75% of the Country’s in the World have a Similar Policy !But Try and Move to Australia or New Zealand Forget it No Immigrants! And try to sneak into 30 Other Country’s and You’ll be Shot Dead on the Spot if they catch you, Like Most of Asia ,Eastern Europe , The Middle East and Parts of Europe.Also if 20 Million Americans were Sneaking into Mexico Across the US Mexican Border the Mexican Military Would Have Machine Guns set Up and Shoot anyone Trying to Sneak in! Some People Just need Something to Protest About they’re Group Starts with Lib.,But Wait When Illegal Aliens Move in Next Door and Then on Both Sides and the House You bought 13 years Before as a Fixer Upper or Long Term Flipper ,Well After You Stuck $125,000 in Upgrades you Now find out it’s worth less than you Paid for it 13 Years Ago and Forget the $125,000 Maybe You’ll Sing a Different Song! Or Put your Tail Between Your Legs and Run ,All Talk No Action!

  22. Blade April 5, 2017 at 2:04 pm Reply

    So they come here to threaten those who have came to the United States to pursue the American dream. If they want to engage in that activity go back to your home country.

  23. pete0097 April 7, 2017 at 2:40 pm Reply

    I wonder if they sent death threats to the contractors that bid on the wall that the Mexicans built along THEIR southern border.

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