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Leaked Memo: DACA Amnesty “Critical” to Democrats’ Electoral Success
Posted On 09 Jan 2018
A liberal fundraising organization – the Center for American Progress Action Fund – sent out a memo this week that advised Democrats to go to the mattresses on behalf of Obama’s Dreamers. The memo, authored by former Clinton campaign communications director Jennifer Palmieri, was apparently meant to pressure top Democratic donors to pressure lawmakers into keeping their promise to pass some form of amnesty for the illegal immigrants.
In the memo, the CAP Action organization warns Democrats to “refuse to offer any votes for Republican spending bills that do not offer a fix for Dreamers and instead appropriate funds to deport them.”
“The fight to protect Dreamers is not only a moral imperative, it is also a critical component of the Democratic Party’s future electoral success,” reads the memo. “If Democrats don’t try to do everything in their power to defend Dreamers, that will jeopardize Democrats’ electoral chances in 2018 and beyond. In short, the next few weeks will tell us a lot about the Democratic Party and its long-term electoral prospects.”
We know a lot of liberals live in pot-friendly states, but seriously…what are they smoking?
We’re reluctant to advise the Democrats on political strategy, but if we were to devise a super-secret, double-agent memo meant to actually sink the party’s chances of mounting a midterms comeback, it would be indistinguishable from this one. How this party thinks that amnesty for illegal immigrants is the key to unlocking their own political future is a mystery. They know these people can’t vote, right? And yeah, we know that they have some pie-in-the-sky plans to fix that, but it’s not going to happen by November, now is it? What the hell are they thinking?
You don’t have to be a political expert to figure out that you focus the majority of your political time reaching out to constituencies that can actually help you win elections. That’s just a fact of life. So why would any Democrat believe that protecting non-citizens – people who can never cast a vote for them – is the hill to die on? We know they have this idea that amnesty for illegals is a hot topic among Hispanics, but do they really think that the Hispanics that feel that way are going to turn on them and start voting Republican? None of this makes any sense!
But what worries us is not that Democrats are going to go all out to protect Dreamers – we quite hope that they do. What worries us is that Republicans are going to forget that Donald Trump won on a strong anti-illegal immigration platform that does not particularly jibe with this sort of legislation. If they can get the moon (or, you know, the wall) in exchange for amnesty, so be it. But if they just give it away because they’re afraid of a shutdown…well, the reaction on the ground is not going to be pretty.
And yet the president we elected cave on daca amnesty Whata mess he promised on the campaign on immigration issue , and today he said on open microphone he will sign whatever congress bring to his desk ,even he say he is willing to work with demorats on comprehensive immigration reform isn’t wonderful after all hard work deplorables did to help him elected he betrayed us not only he lost me but my entire family he doesn’t need deplorables anymore he have the dreamers now and the demorats who love him so much that want to get him out of the White House, demorats hate him now he will lose republicans
Not Republicans.He will lose American people’s and America it self .Dam Backstabber
Sorry, yes you right the real American , we the people, the real supporters, so funny I have listen to Spanish morning shows, and all I hear it’s mocking him the so called dreamers hate him the Spanish media hate him, so sad to se him going down on self indictment stabb , like I said there will be no way to defend him he create this mess him self
ya know.
those COMMUNIST DEMORATS AND A LOT OF RINOS, who run the UNIPARTY are the TRUE ENEMIES OF WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
because those TRAITORS FIGHT MORE FOR ILLEGALS THAN FOR WE THE PEOPLE.
and it’s WAY PAST TIME TO REMOVE ALL OF THE SOB’S FROM GOVT.
Before it’s too late James H.
AMEN Heidi.
AMEN!!!
CAN WE IMAGINE THE MORNING COMMUTE ON THE FREEWAYS IF ALL THE WETBACK WERE GONE AND THEIR JUNKERS THAT WON’T DO 40 MPH AND HAVE NO BRAKES. THE COMMUTE WOULD BE CUT IN HALF FOR LICENSED DRIVERS AND AMERICAN CITIZENS DOING THE RIGHT THING!!
Your disparaging remarks do nothing to address the issue. Democrats are not communists nor traitors that is just your angry opinion. If Californians thought the way you do they would have voted them out a long time ago. If you don’t like the way they run their state STAY THE HELL OUT end of story.
rome, maybe you should stay out of the story. Every action the State of CA under Gov Moonbeam has taken has been anti America. Anything anti America is evil and should be considered socialist/fascist/communist. Your Ninth Circus Court is prime example of idiocy being led by the DemoNAZIS. Look at San Fran, et al, that allow ILLEGALS to vote, allow them to be on PAID boards, oh really! Is it any wonder CA is going bankrupt and desperately needed marijuana to boost their tax rate? Their liabilities far outweigh their assets – their outrageous pensions alone are horrendous and unfunded liabilities. Their infrastructure has been let go to where it is a total disgrace and completely exposes residents to injury and death. Roads are replete with potholes so much so that over the road truck drivers opt for other routes than exposing their vehicles to damage caused by them. Allowing the underbrush to remain in fire prone areas allowed the fires to spread voraciously because of the dead tinder instead of clearing out the dead tinder. Now that the trees are gone, you have the huge mudslides because there is no vegetation to hold it back. It flows downhill freely. Please, rome, learn before you post blatant misinformation and biased opinion. Earlier thought you ohad a government job, but sounds like you work for the lame-stream media.
i DON’T care if you don’t like my remarks slick.
they are the TRUTH, and i used to live in KALIOFORNIA, but it got TO LIBERAL AND SOCIALIST FOR ME.
so how about just STFU.
Heed your own advise I’m not the one complaining.
The easy answer is that those who advocate easy access to the US through amnesty or some form of open borders feel that they can count on the the votes of those they allow in or allow to stay. Most countries require some proof of age and citizenship to vote, Brazil, Canada, Germany, Switzerland, Ireland, Sweden, India, Spain, Greece, France, Malta, Belgium, Italy, South Africa, have voter ID laws and others countries require thumb prints and other types of verification. Here in the good old USA we are told it is discriminatory to do so. To believe that without some kind of voter verification non-citizens will not vote is naive at best and fraudulent at worst.
Excellent comment!
It’s a stupid inaccurate comment if you agree with him you are as dumb as he is.
How so, rome44? Is it because you cannot rebutt intelligently?
I have done so already you failed to read my comments.
http://theremembranceproject.org/nodaca/
Oh Gosh! “statistics on voter fraud does not bear that out” clearly all truth can be found in statistics…. oh wait! which statistics and compiled by whom? So if there is no voter fraud, you would have no objection to requiring proof of citizenship to vote as do so many other countries? Great!
That is correct statistics do not bear that out that is not to say fraud does not occur what I am saying is it is not as prolific as the writer of the article makes it sound. The statistics are compiled by the county precincts themselves, so I’m a little perplexed on you insinuations.
I’m a strong proponent of voter ID at all levels of elections period.
If that’s the case…why not voter ID?
Sure that’s even better we have it here in TX.
Yeah, well here in the land of fruits and nuts Kalifornistan….we don’t. They have fought it tooth and nail…why? They even give illegals drivers licenses.
That is because Gov Jerry Brown is Pig
Ah…..pigs are very intelligent and caring animals. Moonbeam is just a piece of shit.
Gov Brown in California is low down lying piece of scum civil war is coming and I am getting ready for it. All republicans should prepare for it now.
There you go giving shit a bad name.
finger print scan would work
You working on it ?
http://theremembranceproject.org/nodaca/ PETITION – NO DACA DEAL!
GOOD ONE!!!
It’s going to happen even Trump is singing those praises.
rome, Statistics 101 teaches you to begin with the end in mind. Decide your outcome, then tailor your questions/write your questions to produce the end/results you want. Sort of like the pundits and polls did in the 2016 election who were convinced KILLary would win in a landslide and Trump wouldn’t even garner 120 EC votes. That’s why we call her MRS. Clinton and we call him OUR PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT Trump!!! #TRUMP2020
http://theremembranceproject.org/nodaca/. PETITION TO PRESIDENT- NO DACA DEAL!
Anything written with the end in mind is called the “Apocalypse”. No pundit ever hits 100% just ask Karl Rove.
As for Trump at the rate he is going he may not make it through his first term.
Nope, romey boy, that is called planning ahead so you determine your outcome beforehand. So sad, you have a worthless answer for everything…but your answers are full of holes, just like swiss cheese.
No, honey that is what your brain looks like under a scan.
If not as prolific as stated then why the back,ash against voter ID? Are you under the impression that the left REALLY cares about these so called dreamers? If so you’re delusional
What backlash against voter ID ? All voters are required to produce some form of ID in order to vote don’t believe the trollers they are fabricators of lies.
The only impression I’m under is the belief that compassionate people do care and understand that Dreamers are not at fault for being brought here. What do kids know about law they stick to their parents wherever the parents go they go. The issue now is they are now grown and the only country and surroundings they know is the US. It’s not morally right to deport them to lands and customs they don’t know. The other impression I’m under is that there are people like you who don’t give a damn because you are devoid of your humanity you have no sympathy or empathy for the situation these Dreamers find themselves in. And no I’m not delusional at all my words to you are factual whether you like it or not.
Well rome, if you think myself or any real American is devoid of humanity or empathy for these folks you are wrong. Many are productive citizens and deserve a path to citizenship but not ahead of the folks who are waiting to come here legally. The real criminals are the parents and if still alive should have to jump through real hoops to stay. The leftist politicians are the one devoid of humanity as very few really care about them. All they care about is the vote. Not that the right is much better in that vein.
What backlash against voter ID? Where have you been? The left has opposed it vehemently calling it racist to require such a thing. Come on
I understand the concern the Right has on this matter, but here is the problem you all neglect to factor in; American businesses like illegals because they are willing to do the jobs many Americans don’t want.
Businesses want cheap labor and don’t want to deal with the cumbersome rules and labor laws. It’s too lengthy a discussion for this venue but I’ll say this it’s not a Left or Right issue, it’s a PROFITS issue. All this business about illegals voting is pure bunk. Illegals know how stay under the radar, todays exception by Dreamers notwithstanding. But to say they vote or that democrats want them because someday they will get their vote is ludicrous. Another point of contention is the belief the ill informed Right has about Illegals, is they receive welfare it pure BUNK the only entitlements they receive is emergency medical care and their children can attend school and for kids born here they do receive a child credit on their tax returns. A pittance if you ask me for the cheap wages they receive.
Wrong it’s a left issue you people want the Illegals vote and don’t care how you get it. Now go play with your communist obama.
Skooo horse fly
No voter ID in all of the democrat communist states.
All of us real American’s are dreamer’s not these illegal’s there parents sneak over while they are pregnant they planned it that is because most Mexican’s are low down stinking sneaky race.they want to come over here rob us of our jobs get free welfare not speak English.
And what are these jobs they are robbing from you. You also say they are here for welfare.
Which one is it they are taking from you, the jobs or the welfare. When you figure it out let me know.
No dipshit we have to pay more in taxes too keep these POS like you.
What the hell are you talking about now ? Who is “We” that you think pays for me. You know nothing you talk like an idiot.
If you are paying more in taxes obviously you have a poorly skilled accountant.
Its like this; an idiot searches for an idiot accountant to do your taxes. No wonder you pay more.
are you saying you cheat on your taxes to pay less. I am accountant, with 3 degrees in finance, accounting and business. Are you an illegal that you think you know so much. get a life
rome 44 is nothing more then a very sick liberal and wants communist for America. Liberalism means sick democraps ans communist to the core and I bet it voted for killary Clinton.
What do you know, you are stupid.
The democommies don’t like voter ID don’t you know that.
I’m a democrat and I know of no such thing.
You need to provide some form of ID to vote no “ifs” and no “buts” it’s not a political party issue. It’s a requirement of our voting system.
I feel you get your information from uninformed idiots whose interest is just to smear by fabricating lies which people like you swallow hook line & sinker.
Well commie I don’t get my news from the fake news that you watch brain dead POS.
F Y
The problem with statistics are the results are controlled by those doing the checking. I would bet if we could check the voting records in California and verify every vote we would find hundreds of thousands of illegal votes. They found 250,000 illegal votes for Clinton, in Ohio I think it was, plus cases of uncounted fraud votes. That is why the Dems fight voter ID, they would lose more than 50% of their votes.
Not true, we all want some form of ID for anyone to vote. It is ridiculous for you to cast such negative aspersions on Democrats.
As a previous voter precinct volunteer it’s insulting that anyone would think we are unscrupulous dishonest people.
We ID everyone once confirmed they go in draw the curtain and vote their conscience.
So stop your bullshit and stop spreading lies.
You need to stop the lies. You know damn well voter fraud is rampant in California and other states, that 250,000 was reported and the MSM ignored it and Democrats tried to say that it did not happen. I have a friend that lived in New Orleans and saw the fraud first hand. They ran buses from district to district with the same people on board to vote.
You come in here making absurdities w/o an iota of evidence to present as proof.
Where are those statistics for voter fraud in CA ? Where does this 250,000 figure come from ? Even in LA what you say is a total lie you don’t have a friend that told you any such thing. You are accusing the American electorate of dishonestly with lies that just spew out of your mouth.
If this is all you’ve got don’t bother writing to me I’m not engaging you in your trumped up lies.
What wrong don’t want to look it up your self. and it’s not a total lie it’s you that is a total lie.
Whats wrong ? To begin with I didn’t make the statement I was responding to someone else, not you.
You inject yourself into the middle of a conversation which clearly you don’t understand.
If you have something to say, say it, if you have a question for me ask it. Otherwise don’t bother.
YOUR AN IDIOT…
Learn english you dumb bunny. The compound word is abbreviated “you’re”.
“You’re” is an abbreviation of the pronoun You and the verb Are. It’s not a compound word; example of a compound word is AssHole (got it?). Periods go inside the close quotation mark. “English” should be capitalized. Comma after the word “insult” and a question mark after the word “fact.”
OK, SmartAss (compound word)?
Who was addressing you ?
YOUR is a possessive – means something belongs to you.
YOU’RE is short for you are.
It’s so simple. Ask yourself why would Democrats want unlimited immigration if it didn’t benefit them. Do you actually think it is out of the goodness of the Democrat’s heart that they want poor people to compete with the poor we already have. It actually will hurt the poor not the political class. With a $20 trillion debt, that’s $68,000 per person including babies in this country, can we afford this lunacy? Ans no, but the Democrats say yes.
Simple for you, and you have framed your synopsis to reflect your own personal views.
Let me be clear this is not an issue created by Democrats, it transcends one political party much to your chagrin. Both democrats & republicans receive money from lobbyists who represent the many industries.
Our politicians are nothing more than political whores who are only interested in holding on to their positions and a way to do this is to accept lobbyists money.
Illegal Immigration is not happening in a vacuum our gov. knows about it even knows where these people are it’s a simple round up and return. But that is not happening and you should ask yourself WHY NOT ?
I’ll tell you why; American business likes cheap labor they are addicted to illegals who are willing to be subjected to harsh working environments at low wages thereby creating an underclass in this country.
While most right wingers would rather vilify Illegals accusing them of all sorts of chicanery and siphoning the welfare system I leave you with this note; illegals is what the name implies they have no documents with which to scam the system that is a misnomer or just a total lie by internet bloggers being vicious and vindictive. This is a poor schmuck trying to scratch out a living.
If you really wanted to get at the heart of the problem look no further than these industries and their lobbying efforts.
It should be simple for everyone. Yes these are my personal views. Are the views you have not yours? I agree both parties are controlled by money. The current President is unique, because he did not make his money from politics. That’s a good thing. The illegal aliens are a drain in our society. They go to hospitals, our schools. There is an investigation of illegal voting by the DOJ. All they have to do is concentrate on California and Texas. Btw, out of Obamas mouth himself publicly just before the Presidential election, he said there will be no prosecution of illegal voting. If there is no illegal voting why did he feel he had to say that. I noticed the incredible amount of time you respond to people. What is the story there?
Personal views should be tied to truth otherwise it’s meaningless.
My views ! Well, lets just say they are but a reaction to what you post in here.
True, Trump didn’t make his money from politics but that is because he has never held public office, but he did have donors and his donors have an agenda that serves their purposes. Mostly rich white men.
That illegals are a drain on our economy, well that depends on who is saying it. To the industries that hire them it’s a bonanza for their coffers, to some taxpayers they are a drain. It’s true illegals do receive emergency medical care and their kids are allowed to attend school, question: what would you have them do while their parents are out working all day ?
And you’re not being truthful voter fraud is not an issue that calls for an investigation that is just a lot of internet lollygagging by right wingers. And worst of all you are accusing Obama of encouraging voter fraud which is utterly ridiculous I don’t know how you can print such filth and utter lies.
Of course personal views should based on an individual’s best assessment of the truth. Unfortunately, many people in the political society have alternative motives, so the truth is seldom spoken by our political elites. The upper political aristocrats are different from Donald Trump who speaks his mind right or wrong, but at least speaks his truth. What comes out of our political leaders is mostly deception, from their true motives. Why do you mention rich white men? Isn’t that racist? Do you know the backgrounds of all these successful men and their stories? Why do you resort to, because they are white they have become successful. Yes, President Trump knows the game from the other side and has paid politicians. A successful businessman usually means people get hired. There are several examples in my home town. A man invented the pace maker. The amount of benefits this community has experience is immeasurable. Thousands of jobs, the spin off economy from those jobs are incredible. Yes, he was a white man. However, it is not because he was white that he became successful. He had talent, had a yearning to help people, took incredible risks. No one handed him anything because he is white. It is an insult to him that you make these broad assumptions that it is his color that made him successful.
I agree Businesses should not be allowed without huge penalty to hire illegal aliens. Companies are starting to be prosecuted by the new DOJ.
Yes voting fraud. As I said why did President Obama say the authorities would not prosecute illegal aliens for voter fraud if there wasn’t any voter fraud? Why do Democrats have the motivation for open borders, sanctuary cities etc. It is not from the goodness of their hearts that they want to help people, because it will only hurt poor Americans by competing for their jobs. Wake up. I guarantee this is happening. Unfortunately we will have to wait for the investigation which is slow because many states are not cooperating. If I’m wrong, write back and tell me I told you so. I would bet serious money on it and I’m not a gambler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twFJWKUpUTQ
Look up YouTube Obama encouraging illegals to vote.
Well said
You democraps are very good at lying so STFU loser.
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WELL SAID
Thank you.
then why are liberals against proper id to vote
It’s the only way democrats can win is by voter fraud.
I would love to be a fly on the wall in the liberal meetings discussing how to openly defraud all the votes..there liberalare burning hot with what lies..and means they can pursue in order to fraud the votes…’ll the illegals aren’t supposed to vote at all..in on agreencard 40 yrs I cannot vote legally PERIOD but I certainly follow all polls for potos…..the socialist mongrels have brains working round the clock…all on illegal ways to screw Potos ….so far he’s “miles ahead of them…we have to all stand FIRM and kick their ASS when time is right
IN Lucy county in Florida 2012 they had 182.1% of votes of population .These votes fell from heavens.
If true someone failed miserably and the problem should be corrected. The county should go back in and do a recount and the people who allowed this to happen should be banished from ever participating as voter volunteers.
Yes you democrats did fail the America people like you always do. Your party loves the queers aka LGBT and you are very sick people and go against GOD in fact you people hate GOD and everything he stands for now STFU and leave before we all block your liberal ass.
You are a moron and it’s going to be me who blocks you.
http://theremembranceproject.org/nodaca/. PETITION – NO DACA DEAL!
Well, perhaps you have a solution, lets hear it. Doing nothing produces nothing.
I sign the DACA no deal and build the wall. thanks
They sure did I know for a fact I live in Florida.
Anyone that would vote for ANYONE that advocates amnesty should head on out of the country. Do it to any other country without verification and see what they do. Liberalism is a mental disorder and should be treated like it….you shouldn’t vote if you are nuts and liberals are nuts.
Why tell me I am all against voter fraud. But I fail to see what Liberalism has anything to do with voter fraud that is not our topic.
You to lazy to look up what Liberalism means.
Yes, now why don’t you define it for me. Since I never even mentioned the word in the first place. Lets see what you’ve got ?
Must be a liberal democrap. Check out the facts about how many illegals, none citizens and dead people vote. We need voter ID’s to keep the government honest.
http://theremembranceproject.org/nodaca/.
I did that long before you came along. But I believe you have this backwards its gov. who places checks on the voting system by requiring ID and voter registration to keep the people honest, not the other way around.
You keep saying ID is required at voting places, but you have not explained exactly what KIND of ID is required. Could you elaborate on that? Thanks!
Thank you for being civil with your question.
There is no uniformity each state has its own requirements.
You can find yours on the county registrar website under “Elections” there they list the acceptable forms of ID’s.
I’m really puzzled as to why people fight me on this matter when all they have to do is go to their county registrars voter registration site. It’s as simple and as easy as that. I guess people come in here for verbal combat or just to be argumentative.
One of the many things I had to do to become a first a legal immigrant & then several years later became an American citizen was they photographed & finger printed me before I entered the country & then again after I had entered the country. After I had produced my birth certificate & passport. This had nothing to do with my application & studying, It was only to prove who I was where I was born & where I came from. So it is not that hard
We also need for Cities Counties & States to remove a person from the tax & voter rolls immediately when they die. That fraud has gone on clear back to Lyndon Johnson that I know of when he & the good ole boys used these SS #’s for their Illegal ranch hands to vote for Johnson in Texas. That was called stuffing the ballot back then. Next the good ole boys would pick up the ballot boxes & check them before they went to state for the count. That is how LBJ became a Senator the first time. Americans need to research & pay attention to their history of this country. You would be amazed of all the things you can learn when you are studying to become an American Citizen. Check out who JFK father went for help to get JFK voted in the Presidency. It is all there if you dig deep enough. IT IS ALL ABOUT POWER & MONEY
You wing nuts have been saying that for many years. The sad part of it is you believe this shit.
This shit just oozes out of your mouth but when asked for proof you shy away. The only thing you’ve got is empty rhetoric you heard someone else utter. You lack originality you’re a mimic and a poor one at that.
Maybe you should clean up your mouth. I have been around for 75 years. I have read and looked into this and it is true. I guess you are another liberal idiot.
Maybe you should start out clean. You call me names I’m not going to stay silent.
I’m a liberal but on some issues not all. But this is not about my political leanings I respond to people who make absurd comments that are insulting and untruthful.
You chose to call me a democrap and now you want to shout “foul”. You may be 75 perhaps politeness should start at home. Furthermore I live in a free country I am entitled to my political beliefs its part of my freedom. I don’t tell you how and for whom to vote for.
Stupid or inaccurate? If you don’t elaborate and prove your words then you are what you accuse others of being!!!!!!!!!
I have, you just injected yourself in the middle of the discussion why don’t you go back and read the initial comments and my response to it.
I apologize. When your right your right.
Obama will go down in history as the worst president we ever had and I believe he is not a us citizen he is a muslim.He has almost destroyed our country.
It’s just wishful thinking on your part. Obama did a lot of good, he brought healthcare to millions of Americans who couldn’t afford any. He bailed out the banks of Wall St. & GM.
Right now he has a more favorable rating than does Trump, so I don’t agree with you. Posterity will be the judge of that anyway but I think it will look down very favorably on Obama.
Obama tried to put this country under UN control and he was nothing more then a low class communist sandnigger muslim like you.
But I thought I offended you, you said I called you a nigger ? Now you’re saying I’m a sandnigger. Hahaha who the f**k understands you.
You are really out there in the twilight zone with comments like these.
But I’ll give you this one cause I’d never heard it before, that Obama tried to put the US under UN control. It’s so absurd it I’m having a belly roll with laughter.
Do your friends (if you have any) know about the thoughts that swirl around in your head ? Have any of them told you to seek help cause you are mentally disturbed ?
and you are a fuking commie if you don’t
Well, I’m no fuking commie so I guess I didn’t. Just what in the hell are talking about ?
The word is DUMMYCRAP! Our president has more intelligence in his baby finger than you have in your whole body
To begin with, I was never looking for that word. But since you brought it up what is it in relation to ? I never disparaged the president but since you brought it up, how would you know how intelligent he is, just about every time I hear him speak he’s got his foot in his mouth.
Best thing for me to do is leave those assumptions to folks like you.
His IQ is 99 % higher than the average person so I wouldn’t advise to try and out think him. People don’t understand what its like to be smart.
And that would be democrats the only thing they understand is how they can keep people as slaves for votes.
Did you vote for the murder killary clinton.
None of your god damn business.
It’s you sorry ass democrats that stupid and inaccurate with your comments.
And I think you are a low brow knuckle dragger with swiss cheese for brains.
You calling me a nigger and you say you’re not a racist bullshit you are a racist it’s double standards for you retard liberals now go suck air up your stupid ass.
I didn’t call you any such name. I would call you an idiot but only because you talk like one. I’m no racist what in the world would give you that idea ?
Tone down your rhetoric or don’t contact me at all.
You must be an Obama voter. You are a bully just like him. (Don’t agree with me you are dumb?) Sounds like Obama too!
I said nothing to you.
But I did vote for Obama and proud of it. If he could run again he’d have my vote again. I don’t bully but I do have to deal with obnoxious people who have nothing to say like Boone and judging by his grammar he is rather unskilled and poorly educated if any at all.
Don’t make things up Obama never spoke that way to anyone.
Now if you have nothing to contribute to a conversation I have better use of my time than to be exchanging insults with you.
Smart-ass, nobody died and left you to be arbiter. You talked down to boone1, almost like you are a special agent of the left. Obama was the biggest bully we ever had as a President. He had that “you owe me” chip on his whole body. A lot like you, from my observation.
This is a right wing site seems like I’m the only lefty in here pushing back at absurdities believed by most amongst you.
I talk to boone in a derogatory manner because of the way he conducts himself.
If you come at me with vulgarity I will respond in kind.
I can’t even fathom your comment that Obama was a bully, when, where ? I like Obama and I’ve heard most of his speeches I never heard him bully anyone or put down people. He is a very accomplished and inspirational orator.
I’m afraid your observations are deceiving you better take a closer look.
His tone was always talking down to us commoners. Its just my perception but I am entitled to it. He acted like he was king of the world, not just the President of the United States. A shame because he could have done so much more to help race relations. Instead he used his race, every chance he got, to attack the moral majority. That same moral majority put Trump in office. Tired of old Democrat ideas that imprison the very people he was to represent most, Blacks. They didn’t put Trump in but the rest of America did. They always blindly vote Democrat. Period! (strange since Martin Luther King, Jr. was a staunch Republican)
Democrats went bat shit crazy when Trump won, but is’t because of them that he did. Now they are trying everything to unseat a sitting American President. If you supported that, I would be surprised. It hurts us all stateside. You don’t strike me as stupid. (misguided but not stupid). We should all either support our president or be quiet (ha ha)til next election. Better yet, do something to change things. Bitching and moaning will not do that. Obama is gone and he did nothing for America anyway. Obama Care, what a joke.
I never detected any condescension in his tone. He was a charismatic speaker he drew you in as he spoke on serious matters with a touch of levity.
Of course you are entitled to your beliefs just remember even today he has a high approval rating.
He was criticized by blacks because he was not giving them the attention they thought they deserved. I guess he was in a situation where he was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t. I remind myself he was elected president of the U.S. not president of black Americans only. He did avoid the race issue as much as he could.
I know of no incident in which he took on the Moral Majority (religion) . So here I have to ask you for what reason, the MM no longer has any political power. Whatever is left of the MM they never went after Obama. If you do know please
enlighten me. I don’t propose to know everything.
As to who put Trump in office I attribute that to the electoral college because he lost the popular vote by nearly 3 mil. votes.
As a democrat I can assure I didn’t go bat shit when he won, I believe in our system we lost and that is it. Next time I hope we have a more viable candidate.
Losing does take its toll no doubt its human nature. I too recall watching election results on FOX when Romney lost. Carl Rove running around the studio in disbelief. It works both ways.
I have not joined the chorus chanting impeachment, but I do hear him utter some very unpresidential language where he offends many people. He is intensely disliked and has a very poor approval rating. You don’t strike me as an ignorant person either cause I do agree impeachment would be be very disruptive and besides I do cut him some slack because he has no gov. experience. We see this almost daily in his missteps, I don’t think it rises to the level of impeachment.
One place where I vehemently disagree with you is on Obama’s accomplishments but that is a discussion for another day.
Our Federal government unfortunately is a fraud after eight years of sneaky Obama and eight years of the same folks out for Trump’s blood covered up, destroyed evidence, and openly lied to protect Obama. He allowed millions in with documentation, gave one million of them refugee status for resettlement money from ISS. IF anything Obama should be sitting in a jail cell, but heck no he gets a free pass while Trump is accused endlessly by our lying press and newspapers. We lost our freedom the day the sneaky guy Obama was sworn in. IF Trump goes down while laughing Obama walks away the nation should rise up against left wing stalinist tactics of the democrats.
You are so right. IF they try to take Pres. Trump down they will have a civil war on their hands, and NEWS FLASH to Dim~wits~~ WE have guns and you don’t! Enough said.
Sure Barb what you said.
If you mean CIVIL WAR it’s going to happen and very soon.
Well said
In California all they need is a drivers license which they hand out to illegals along with voters registration forms.
YES! The most disgusting part is you better be driving their car for them because they can’t even read the signs well enough by the pictures of them to make real time driving decisions, especially cutting in and out and merging on a Freeway!
No worries, mate. They give the test in Spanish. Even in California there are no Spanish road signs.
B, are you sure about that? I understand in Orange County, CA, the unified school district doesn’t even teach English, nor does it require students to be proficient in it. Look at all the “board” members…La Raza rules there so am sure the road signs are in Spanish.
Well they’re weren’t any in 2002 when I left the dumb state, but there’s no telling now what is going on. Haven’t been back and have no plans to ever return to Californication.
I used to dream of going to CA when I was a young girl in the 50’s, then as a college student in the 60’s before the state became a haven for illegal gang members and drug cartels and the Commies run it. My son went to Medical School there and wanted to get out of that state to do his internship and residency. He ended up being assigned to LOMA LINDA. He said his friends had to talk him off the ledge! LOL I have never been to CA and don’t plan too. I sent my son the money instead of going to the graduation from Medical School. I feel the same way about New York. Both coasts are my idea of sheer Hell.
I guess some people are not adaptable to diversity. You ridicule CA & NY but just be aware CA if a country would be the 6th largest economy in the world so those Americans you disparage and call commie’s are doing something right. The beauty of our democracy is you can live anywhere you want so if your perception of these two states doesn’t suit your fancy stay out of there.
We do. You can have CA and enjoy it.
Thank you. I have nothing but praise for CA. It was a very rewarding experience for me and financially too, My work there provided a big boost to my retirement which I fully enjoy today.
I am a 4th generation Californian and have 2 more after me…..this state has been turned to a $hithole. Just waiting for the day it happens….the San Andreas drops the coast into the ocean. Most the liberal idiots live on the west side of it.
Are things that bad that have you become so bitter ? I lived and worked in Santa Clara for over ten yrs. I worked all over Silicon Valley, I never came across anyone that talks like you, I guess people are very busy making money and I find many of them content. because of the nature of my work I also worked in LA. I was surrounded by people of similar interests no one ever spoke of the negative things that bother you. I suppose it’s all on a persons perspective and how you view life. Sorry you feel the way you do.
You made two statements one does not have anything to do with the other.
I believe you will die before the Western part of CA falls into the sea, it’s like waiting for the Apocalypse. Besides liberals leave everywhere in this country.
We Liberals have a problem too we have to share the country with very dim-witted folks that don’t believe we all have a constitutional right to exist. Clearly listening to you folks spill your guts about how you feel over other races and illegal immigrants is convulsing to me when one takes into consideration how this nation was founded. With black slaves in the South to the railroads out West by the Chinese. And here we have you today claiming ownership on the backs of immigrants who forged this nation. I think you are totally uneducated and left for stupid.
No romie boy….you are the uneducated idiot. See, there ya go….this is a Republic and a capitalist Republic at that….not a socialists utopia….errr, loserville. Oh and by the way….dimwit is another word for liberal.
Stop thumping up your chest I know that. Many of us call it our nation democracy you have to live in a cave isolated not to know that. One more thing it is not a pure republic it does have elements of socialism and communism, i.e. Social Security and our progressive income tax. And you are a Dim-Wit. goes to show it’s not exclusive to Liberals as much as you’d like to think.
The USA is not a democracy Idiot. it’s a Republic socialism and communism,an you are both .
I try to shoot every liberal I see not worth a shit. And you just might be next.
Look booney, I can’t say its been a pleasure but I’m going to have to cut you off. This is very boring. Good bye
In 2001 it was the 4th largest, 2003 the 5th largest and now the 6th largest (some reports say the 7th largest) (if you buy off on statistics) ….either the rest of the world is doing better or Taxifornia is loosing ground….. but then you would have those who disagree with how it is run either move or just accept it… or as you put it “adapt to diversity”
Caplers is bankrupt (though not yet filed) , San Bernardino, Vallejo, Stockton and Mammoth Lakes have filed and more to come…. Diverse enough for you? Certainly none of this has to due with massive spending on social programs or illegal aliens…. Nah not much! We have one of the highest tax rates in the US but even higher spending on feel good programs and social welfare handouts…. and still have a higher percentage of people living in poverty that any other state in the union.
Well, than by gosh if you’re the last one to leave please turn the lights off.
California has gone to the Dogs president Trump is going to make an example of California and won’t be good.All Whites better get out before it comes part of Mexico heaven knows they spread like fleas.
I can see where someone named Sparky would concern himself with fleas.
You are a moron pure and simple you talk stupid therefore you are stupid. Don’t contact me anymore.
Hey shit for brains commie you keep contacting us stupid ass moron. your queer buddy is calling you him and his man wife want to do you so bend out boy cause obama and wife are coming for ass.
Fine I hope they leave the union and so if they are so damn rich who needs queerafornial anyway we the people sure hell don’t.
Well, you can sit there and hope till the cows come home, CA. is never leaving the union.
I have asked you to define who “WE” is but you keep ignoring the question. You are delusional to think you speak for many, look around there is no one else but you. Seek help will ya’.
KNOW THAT FEELING AND ITS A SHAME FOR VISITORS. WE LIKED TO GO THERE AND THE GRAND KIDS LIKED DISNEY LAND. BUT NOW WE GO TO DISNEY WORLD IN FLA. AND HAVE TO BEACHES TO GO TO ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STATE. AND THEY APPRECIATE OUR BUSINESS AND WILL TELL YOU SO!!!
Hell Trump needs to put a wall around queerafonnial to keep the fruits and nuts out of the rest of America.
Road signs ? NOPE! We have 250 some spoken languages in California you get any government mail and you look for the one you can read, tear off a half pound of other garbage, and read on. Often English isn’t even the first beginning pages either!
Road signs are all in English. I have not figured how to leave. Can’t sell house or get new financing. My wife says she just wants to walk away and start over they’ve made what we have so worthless the only things of value left are a truck load of tools. No equity in anything else.
Where would you run off to ? America is changing I live in a big city in the South, growing up we were whites, hispanics and a small black minority living in harmony. Today we are bulging at the seams with people from around the world coming into our midsts. It’s unrecognizable from my youth yrs.
My work has taken me to many parts of the US, NY ,CA, NV Florida & Hawaii. I have seen the diversity in their big cities so I’m not shocked at what I see. So, no matter if I want to leave where would I go to get away from other races ?
Who wants to get away from other races? You? Not us. We welcome LEGAL immigrants – it is the ILLEGALS who refuse to assimilate into the United States culture of a melting pot, demanding all materials be in their languages. Do you have any idea how much education budget is spent on translating all documents into a variety of languages, rather than those from other countries learning English? Perhaps you should do some research about that. Have you any idea how much education budget is devoted to interpreters for students not only in the basic language of their culture but the vernacular, as well. How about, have you any idea in how many languages instructional material must be provided because the students are not proficient in English and basically are demanding they materials be in their language? Yes, having been in education for almost 30 years I am most familiar with precisely what transpires in schools, in districts, in budgets and what does take place. Not hypothesis, but actual experience – vast difference. rome, vast difference.
Sorry, but you mischaracterize my stance on immigration. It’s not I doing the complaining I was doing the responding. Also I don’t have issues with races as you seem to believe.
I have to agree with much of what you said with some exceptions; for example at the DMV in CA the walls are lined with instructions in various languages, this shouldn’t be so english is the adopted language of the land. All immigrants should use english. And in business it’s the credit card companies and national chains who placate immigrants in their native tongues but what they see is their bottom lines it’s they who pay the expense for translating. Our gov. should not follow suit Its self defeating to require they learn english to become citizens than switch material for them in their native tongue it makes no sense. I’m fully aware of the costs involved in teaching kids in their language. I believe they should dive in cold turkey kids are resilient they pick up fast. Sorry I didn’t convey my opinions clear enough for you. We use english for businesses, contracts and treaties. And is a language used around the world. Its good for the people that will be working in areas where their skills are needed but that should be an elective and not a mandate.
English is not the adopted language of the land English is the America language of the land you speak it or get the hell out. And that means all of your ILLEGALS as well and by the way you are free to leave with them.
See ! You need no help from me to make you look like a moron you are doing just fine all by yourself.
There is no American language we adopted english from the British.
And there you go again hyping your authority (as if you had any) demanding people go because you say so, HA you are one stupid M-F.
Hey stay in CA and take the communist UN as well you two will get along fine both CA and the UN are communist.
Finally, I have your permission to stay. Whew you had me worried there for a moment.
I’m no communist but how do I know you are not the communist trying to ensnare me into your diabolical schemes ? Tell me how do I know.
I never speak about communism but you sure do a lot of talking.
Maybe you belong to a fifth column trying to bring our country down. But how would I know ?
You heard it wrong or either you are making that up. A persons ethnicity has nothing to do with a student not being proficient in english that is up to parents and the individual him/her self. I have family in southern CA rest assured everything in schools is taught in english and so is every road sign in every state of the union. Don’t equate electives and transitional spanish to english classes with the entire educational system which is english.
rome, no, everything is not taught in English in CA. You are making an assumption. I have relatives in classes where they are not taught in English because the preponderance of students are Hispanics in the classes, and no, it is not a Spanish class, but an academic, not an elective.
I don’t want to be accused of being closed minded so please forward more detail information like where is this happening in CA. and what would be the purpose ? Education in America is in english the young are being prepared to go into the workforce whether in medicine science or the hi-tech industry and everything in between.
Where have you ever seen corporations conducting their business in Spanish, Viet Namese, Hindi or Bengali ? They do it among themselves when they socialize but not while conducting business, now that has been my experience maybe yours is different.
How about you do your own research, rome.
It’s called calling your bluff either show your hand or fold them.
You don’t know just by your post right there. Places like Huntington Park out to El Monte down to Santa Ana. Classes are taught in Spanish because they don’t understand English..
Road signs aren’t, but many of the billboards and business signage isn’t in English. South LA all the way up to the San Fernando have many in spanish….go through El Monte through Monterey Park is Asian signs.
Oh my word…
THE CALIFORNIANS THAT IS ONCE NEW WHO LIVE IN THE STATE- NEED TO BOOT THAT IDIOT MOONBEAM JERRY BROWN OUT OF OFFICE AND GET BACK TO PROTECTING THE CITIZENS OF CALIFORNIA. THERE SHOULD BE A REVOLT AMONG THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO TAKE BACK THEIR STATE FROM SUCH ASSHOLES LIKE BROWN AND SEVERAL OTHERS MAKING CALIFORNIA INTO NORTH BAJA CALIFORNIA. IF THAT CONTINUES I WOULD BE IN FAVOR TO REMOVING CALIFORNIA FROM OUR COUNTRYS LIST OF STATES. LET THEM GO WITH THE ILLEGAL ALIEN AND SEE WHO GETS RICH AND WHO DOES NOT. THE CITIZENS OF CALIFORNIA ARE TAKING IT IN THE BUTT EACH TIME THAT FOOL JERRY BROWN DOES ANOTHER STUPID AND ASININE ACT TO FURTHER BURY CALIFORNIA IN MESKIN WETBACKS.
WE MADE 2 VACATIONS PREVIOUSLY TO THE STUPIDITY HE HAS GIVEN THE STATE- I HAVE NOT LONGER ANY WANT TO TRAVEL TO CALIFORNIA FOR VACATIONS OR EVEN BUSINESS MEETINGS. WE ARE BOOKING OUR TRIPS TO AZ AND TO THE EAST- WHICH FLA. HAS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR- RELATIVE SAFETY FROM ILLEGAL MESKIN WETBACKS LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO ROB AND A VEHICLE TO CRASH INTO. WE ARE DONE WITH CALIFORNIA AS LONG AS THE FOOL JERRY MOONBEAM BROWN IS IN POWER AND STUPIDITY THERE.
The Republicans are badley outnumber by the liberal left. It’s a lost cause, the results of pure Communist government and radical Judges up the A$$!! Does the rest of America want this? I sure as hell hope not!
Could be they are a lot smarter, after all CA is the 6th largest world economy so the liberal left must be doing something right.
Who cares? It is sixth only because of Silicon Valley which is rapidly moving out of CA. Once they’re gone, CA will be in the dumper financially. Most of our produce is now coming in from Mexico. Look at Green Giant, BIrds Eye – just to name two and there more. Garlic is no longer from Gilroy, but Mexico and China. I will give CA one good thing – the Naval oranges. All else can be imported from other countries, even artichokes.
Who cares ! I’d say the folks who live and work there and I don’t think they are going anywhere else anytime soon. I have friends who work there they tell me they don’t see any end in sight. Some worked at Apple have you seen the massive facility they just built in Cupertino ? The land is more valuable than it once was for the orchards. I do have to agree I love their oranges too.
EXACTLY!!!!!!! WE never voted for him and never will.
Keep in mind who was there when white Europeans invaded CA. less than two hundred yrs. ago. The people you refer to as wetbacks were living there since the 15th Century. You really should know your history before making comments that are clearly idiotic and w/o merit. Californians like Brown he has been very instrumental in making CA the 6th largest economy in the world if on its own.
Your perceptions are not the reality so I seriously doubt anyone in CA cares what you think, if you don’t like it stay out it’s just that simple.
Goes to prove they are bi-lingual.
THATS THE SAME WAY HERE IN SOUTH TEXAS. HERE THEY THINK THE MERGE LANE MEANS RUN THE DRIVERS ON THE FREEWAY OFF AND IF YOU BLOW THE HORN THEY FLIP YOU OFF AND TRY TO PUSH YOU INTO THE OTHER LANE- THEY WILL NOT YIELD TO TRAFFIC ALREADY ON THE FREEWAY LANE NEXT TO THE MERGING LANE. IT’S JUST THAT MESKIN LACK OF MENTALITY AMD COMMON SENSE. HERE THEY HAVE DRIVERS LICENSE OR INSURANCE OR EVEN AN ID CARD. THEY JUST CRASH IN TO OUR CARS AND THE POLICE JUST LET THEM DRIVE OFF AND TELL US TO HAVE OUR INS. FIX YOUR CAR. ALL FOLKS DON’T HAVE UNINSURED MOTORIST ON THE CARS. I LEARNED MY LESSON AND NO I HAVE IT ON ALL VEHICLES INCLUDING MY NEW BUS. I FORGOT TO MENTION ALSO PIP. IT WORKS!! HERE WE GO AGAIN – THIS IS WHAT THE ILLEGAL ALIEN WETBACKS DO FOR US!! MAKE OUR INS. RATES GO UP AND UP AND WE HAVE TO PAY THE MONEY – AND THEY JUST WALK AWAY.
My sister, from outside Chicago has been in two accidents both caused by undocumented Mexicans! No License, No Insurance! AND Never got a ticket, BUT she had to pay with her own money for the damages to her vehicle!!! See why Insurance rates go up for people who work! It’s to pay for those who don’t Welcome to Illionois!!!
Rudeness has no race. You are just a sad racist asshole. I live here too, I can unequivocally say Mexican people are polite drivers they are nothing of what you describe. I too, have noticed the rude drivers on our freeways but this is due to the influx of people who move here from other parts of the country. The same can be said about just any large city in America. I lived in NY for 4 yrs. talk about rude drivers you ain’t seen nothing till see drive in that city. So quit your blaming rude driving solely on Mexicans.
Are you a casualty of our failing school system ? I ask because that is a real dumb-ass comment.
It’s making me laugh as I respond to you I’m imagining you looking at drivers in their cars moving down the Freeway how in hell can you determine whether a driver is a citizen or an illegal since all drivers nowadays drive like mad people cutting each other off and acting rude to other drivers. Just saying.
You know when their car radio is blasting loud with Mexican songs.
Or it could be someone listening to RAP. Not much of a response, you can’t hear other cars music driving on the freeway most people have their windows rolled up. Now if you had said they do that in neighborhoods that would be more believable because they do do that.
Hmmmm…. I have the belief that you have not driven in a California fwy. With a bumper to bumper traffic, even with your windows closed, with a blaring music (and they are proud of it with their loud deafening music) you can just roll your eyes and continue on your merry way.
Gary, they do the same in FL.
NOT LIKE THEY DO IN CALI. ITS OUT OF CONTROL AND GETTING WORSE DAILY. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE A BORDER PATROL AGENT ON A DAILY BASIS THERE/ CAN DO YOU JOB AND GET FIRED IF YOU DO. THAT IS A SICK PLACE NOW- NO MORE FOR ME AND MY FAMILY.
No, thanks, no CA for us, SNUFFER – too many fruits, nuts, and ILLEGALS. I can’t believe any state would behave as they do and still be part of the union. The libs have totally disgraced the state (as well as the country) and made it horrendous for the thinking folks. But the thinking folks had better gain control of the crackpots including Hollyweird, their government Moonbeam, local boards, or they had better move out of that heckhole.
My heart goes out to the border patrol agents, the LEOs who are good and law abiding people. They risk their lives daily for us and are shat upon by the left for doing their jobs. Never in my almost eight decades have I seen such filth as the dirty politics the DemoNAZIS are pulling on the uninformed, ill informed sheeple who follow them.
#MAGA #TRUMP2020
I believe you to be right CA is no place for you.
No they don’t, in FL. they listen to Cuban music. God you guys are clueless engaging in topics you know nothing about.
rome, you have proven repeatedly in your posts on this entire thread how uneducated and ill informed you truly are. You argue with everyone and anyone thinking your pomposity makes you right. Well, child, you are wrong six ways from Sunday. Obviously, you know nothing about FL. Our Cuban population is centered around Miami and Ybor City (Tampa area). Our Mexican population is in the farming areas throughout the entire state. Moreover, I was responding to Garys Opinion where he had written how the DMV gives out voter registration, as well as dl, which DOES take place in FL. I’ve lived here for over 45 years and know my adopted state very well. I love her and her residents – LEGAL residents.
I understand the issues completely and I stand by what I’ve said. But it was mostly about CA. not FL. The Spanish music I had in mind is within the cities like LA and Miami that is my reason for saying Mex. music in LA and Cuban music in Miami I know there are others I was addressing the major two.
That is a dumb stupid inaccurate comment with no basis in fact. Go get it right, the correct information is right at your fingertips just google it.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-me-pol-ca-motor-voter-law-20151016-html-htmlstory.html
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/24963-giving-drivers-licenses-to-illegal-aliens-makes-illegal-voting-a-real-possibility
It all depends on the people in the DMV as to whether or not the voter registration is approved. There’s a lot of room for fraud.
Wrong again. That is the jurisdiction of your county’s voter registrar. DMV only offers forms for qualified people who want to register to vote when an applicant decides to fill the form DMV forwards the application to the county voter registrars office they make the determinations not the DMV.
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/10/12/gov-jerry-brown-signs-bill-allowing-illegal-aliens-vote/
Not anymore! Moonbeam changed that.
Nope! It is done right there when the dl is gotten. You are way behind the times, rome,
Oh no I’m not. This is an old issue with misconceptions by folks like you. I’ve done my due diligence a long time ago, I called the state and what I said to you all DMV does provide the forms for folks to fill if they wish which they forward to the state it’s they who make the determination. You are not changing that no matter how many times you repeat yourself. It’s you who is behind better read up
The DL’s are stamped with “For Driving Purposes Only” You really need to catch up you look silly posting baseless comments that can be refuted easily.
Makes no difference what’s stamped on them in small letters – they are using the same backgrounds; whereas they used to use different backgrounds indicating non citizens. You look truly silly for your pompous responses proving you know less than nothing. Typical left-winger who thinks it knows better than anyone else. Maybe you work for the government so you have the need to prove how important you are – in your own mind.
It makes a big difference to law enforcement and when or if they try to use them for other purposes. They do state they are not to be used for driving only.
I think it’s you the upset one that CA is a democratic. State face it you can’t handle it.
Who is taking about law enforcement but you? We are discussing voter fraud, or did you forget? That’s comparing apples to oranges.
You’re like a babe lost in the woods.
You are not the only one I address my comments to. Yes, the subject is the [nonexistant] voter fraud and some of you believe DL to illegals are used as ID’s to vote. What I said is DL in CA cannot be used s ID’s they are for diving purposes only and that local or state law enforcement accept them as proof they are qualified to drive.
Get some rest will ya.
Why does an illegal even have a drivers license and if they are pulled over with said license….why aren’t they arrested for breaking the law?
That is a question for the CA legislature to address their citizens concerns.
The thinking behind handing out DL’s to illegals is because they drive cars either borrowed or bought w/o vehicle insurance, and when they get in an accident the other person uninsured motors clause pays for the damages to their car thereby increasing that drivers insurance and everyone else for that matter. By requiring they obtain a DL they also have to buy insurance making damages more equitable to both parties involved.
Why they are not arrested and turned over to ICE I cannot answer, seems local law enforcement doesn’t want to do immigration duty. The same is true for all states, I don’t understand it because if we are to curb illegal immigration local police should be involved in the process.
Mexico also has voter I.D. laws, you can’t vote in Mexico if you are not a citizen.
You can’t even OWN property in Mexico if you aren’t a citizen – but they’ll gladly rent to us gringos and take our pesos.
Not true do some fact checking.
Have you ever lived in Mexico? Maybe you should try it and then find out about fact checking. Our daughter lived there for years in the ’80s and we visited. Only Mexican citizens could buy homes there – she could rent a hacienda or a house, but could not buy and she was employed as a professor in Mexico. It may have only been the state in which she lived, but it was the law and it was the same in several other states we had visited. You should check before you answer so pompously especially when you are as wrong as the day is 24 hours long. rome.
Never have. But I do know Americans can buy property in the interior of Mexico, there are restricted areas where we cannot. If I’m wrong on this one the day isn’t 24 hrs. long.
Perhaps where you “know Americans can buy property”, but not in the state in which she lived nor in several we had visited. But you are too dense to red the entire statement.
Nor any place else.
The statistics on voter fraud does not bear that out. So that aspect of your comments can be dismissed. The fact is as any voter can tell you, you can’t just walk into any precinct straight to the voting booth in the USA and vote. All precincts will have a ledger or register book with the names of registered voters for that county, the precinct workers will ask everyone for their ID and will match it with the registered voters.
My suggestion to you is get yourself informed about this issue before making a fool out of yourself.
Not quite true, they ask for an I.D. but you have the option of not showing one.
I vote every election and have been told that the I.D. is not mandatory, they depend on matching a signature. A person like me who has a medical problem which affects handwriting, their signature changes. I’ve never been questioned.
You have to provide some form of ID, failure to do so is a dereliction of duty. In my county the County Registrar issues me a voter ID card which I present at my precinct, if they ever fail to ask for it or for any form of acceptable ID I would ask for the precinct officer and report it.
You do say they have your name on the ledger already that may be acceptable in your county precinct or state. But my comments are geared towards people who believe all a person has to do is walk right in and vote which is not the case.
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/03/24/these-states-have-more-registered-voters-than-eligible-adults-what-one-group-wants-to-do-about-it
Voter fraud should be rooted out wherever found.
https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_identification_laws_by_state
You are wrong rome44. I am a precinct volunteer. When a voter comes in and not in the voter rolls, we give them a vote-in ballot. They fill it in and goes into the ballot box. What is done with those votes, that I don’t know.
https://www.npr.org/2016/10/19/498587397/sting-video-purports-to-show-democrats-describing-how-to-commit-voter-fraud.http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/18/commit-voter-fraud-massive-scale-part-ii-project-veritas-investigation-clinton-network/ https://www.charismanews.com/politics/elections/60661-project-veritas-part-ii-voter-fraud-on-a-massive-scale.https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/18/project_veritas_exposes_organized_voter_fraud_on_a_massive_scale.html #!http://madworldnews.com/number-illegals-voted-hillary/https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-800000-votes-from-nonciti/
http://theremembranceproject.org/nodaca/
I have no argument against what you said because it’s a fact other countries do have stringent immigration laws.
However, that is not the whole of it. American business is addicted to cheap labor and the fact that most Americans do not want the jobs these illegals are willing to do. Many Americans are educated and hold lucrative high paying jobs, many are professionals, you are not going to have these folks pick their own crops and clean up after themselves or perform the required duties of a pig or chicken farm.
If not they than who ? Do you have an answer ?
Also, this voting business I wish you’d lay to rest, illegals can’t vote. No politician is dumb enough to think that by allowing illegals to stay they will get their vote. The path to citizenship is a costly long arduous ordeal I hear it is a 20 or so years to process. It’s ludicrous for a democrat to think they can count on an illegals vote.
Very Well Said, John. It’s time to put actually enforce the laws that are already on the books. We have to show an ID to take a book out of the library and the dims claim its discriminatory to demand proof that one has the legal right to vote. One has to wonder if the dims are worried about their voter base.
Thats what I predicted! With about 800,000. more Democrats to vote across the nation ; the liberal progressive movement will continue to gain more strength politically.
Exactly, thats the libs mo. They know they are loosing citizens who believe so they need to import more believers
Even if they were granted legal status they still wouldn’t be able to vote because their not US. citizens. Then again the Democraps don’t care they like to cheat so they can steal elections. That’s pretty much the only way they can win these days.
Demonrats have no moral compass. GOD is in control and appointed our president to make America great again. All their Dirty Deeds will keep backfiring on them
They very well do vote. Look at San Francisco – even have ILLEGALS on their board. CA is allowing ILLEGALS to vote in “local” elections, right, only local, yeah sure. Believe that and I’ll sell you ocean front property in Kansas.
You miss understood what I meant in my post. I know they have illegally voted around this Country. Constitutionally they are not legally able to vote, that was my point in my post. This is why the Democraps fight every law that will help prevent people from voting illegally. Then again this is the only way the Democraps can win elections. I thought that I only had to fully explain myself to the mindless liberal drones, it looks like I have to even for the people that agrees with me. I’m fighting my sarcasm right now, because I reserve that for the mindless liberal drones. Think before you post something like this again.
What too proud to admit that you’re wrong for responding to me the way you did. You’re no better than the brainless liberals. Next time learn how to comprehend what you read before you respond. This was in my original post (Then again the Democraps don’t care they like to cheat so they can steal elections. That’s pretty much the only way they can win these days.)
Voters who underwent the long and arduous process of applying for citizenship, becoming naturalized, want freeloaders on their taxes competing with them for jobs? So they’ll be clamoring to vote in a Socialist government like the one they came here to escape?
For many, it’s not the jobs. It’s the health care, education and welfare. They’ll vote for ANY party which gives it to em for free. After all, they’re spending, “Other people’s money”.
Right, and when they run out of OPM, they’ll have Venezuela on their hands.
Mexico allows all people from any nation to move right in, and collect benefits forever.
Then why are so many Mexicans coming here illegally if things are so good when you’re on welfare there?
Having worked and lived in Mexico (very strict enforcement of my work visa) you are completely wrong!!! It is difficult to get any type visa other than 30 day tourista and MEXICO POLICE WILL STOP AND VERIFY THAT YOU ARE CURRENT AND IF NOT…JAIL and DEPORTATION! Absolutely NO BENEFITS of any type to non nationals!
Send that to Alice House.
If we go there we get treated that way . . . . but THEY come up here and after a short period of time join the protestors about not being given ENOUGH!
Read Don’s comment below. He lived there and has direct info.
Send all that slime back to cesspool it oozed from, stealing spots at institutions of higher learning and then jobs that are not theirs for the taking, the way to overturn such EOs is to once and for all prove that O’Loser! never should have sat in the Oval Office because he himself is an illegal alien.
i think you are RIGHT in your view.
I’M NOT A RELIGIOUS PERSON IN THE SLIGHTEST BUT IN THIS CASE I WILL GIVE THIS A BIH AMEN BROTHER IN ARMS. NAILED IT SIR!!!
To look at you, you seem like someone rational but as soon as you open your mouth out spills the filth that fills your brain. Obama has come and gone I guess you are still feeling the stinging effects of having a black man in the oval office. That’s all that ails you.
Who cares what color he was? You? We look t the content of a person’s character, not the color, but guess you only look at color. To be accurate, he was half Black and half White and we didn’t like either half.
You are a bold face liar, You are going to have to wake up earlier than I to get one over me. I already said to you I don’t have racial issues. And to clarify your comment there is no “we” it’s YOU who doesn’t like the man, you should be aware most of Americans like Obama some even wish we could have him back and you can count me as one of them.
No, child, you can stay in bed all day because you are so wrong on so many levels. Nope, it is WE who despise the way he did all he could to destroy our beloved America her and abroad. It is precisely for that reason we united and elected OUR PRESIDENT Trump to correct all the destructive actions that traitor OWEbama perpetrated on us, lies he told to us and to the world. Some people wish they had Hitler, Stalin or Mussolini back, too.
As for you, I am done wasting my breath and time on the likes of you. I haver better things to do like watch dust settle and grass grow. #TRUMP2020
I’m a very energetic person laying in bed all day long is non-productive for a person like myself.
As for Obama being our president for 8 yrs. and what he accomplished, you my dear must have been on the far side of the moon.
I’m not going to recite his accomplishments because you’d find a way to deny it if only to justify it in your own mind. The reality is quite different let me just say this; when Obama was elected [by the majority of Americans] our economy was in a death spiral, we lost about 800K jobs that mo. some of Wall St.’s financial Inst. were filing for bankruptcy add to that GM was about to go bankrupt. Obama saved them both by the end of his 2nd. term Wall ST. went from below 7K to 19K, unemployment went from 10-11% down to 5% and GM was thriving again. Now put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Shutting down the government for NON CITIZENS is a death march for the Democratic Party! I don’t think they are thinking clearly which is fine by me. Go ahead and commit suicide by standing up for the illegals. They can’t vote legally and I bet they won’t be willing to be deported just to vote for you.
They themselves can’t vote legally but I believe their children will be able to vote since they will be born in the U.S. Last year, 48% of the population increase was due to immigration, a frightening statistic.
Then we need to stop anchor babies, as well.
Mexico, has one of the best vote ID laws anywhere in the world. One has to register at the Electoral Site, and they issue the voter a Picture ID which they have to present at the polling site, before they can vote!
Damn, You have to present a ID now before one can see a doctor, all due to the OBAMA CARE LAW! Also, you have to have ID before you can cash a check, before you can cash a Welfare Check! So, whats the BS behind poor Blacks that have no ID but they want to vote??? Democrats get them a real ID, Quit letting Illegals Vote, Quit registering the Dead to vote, Quit using fake people for absentee voting!
DumbA$$o CROOKS have known for years that the only way they can win is to CHEAT.
Your right, That is just how Lyndon Banes Johnson got into Politics by stealing ballot boxes. Johnson being a member of the Texas Mafia and the KKK was totally Corrupt back in the sixties. Democrats have been corrupt since the beginning of their Party. Johnson is the very one who invited Kennedy to come to Texas, with one thing in mind and that was to have Kennedy set up for a Assassination. Yes, Kennedy’s Father and Johnson are the very ones who arranged, to have Texas and Illinois ballots swayed to John Kennedy’s and Lyndon Johnson’s win. Nixon was robbed still he had the popular vote. Kennedy was killed for not believing in the New World Order. Obama, being a non citizen was the only one the Democrats could run that could win. McCain being a Democrat himself gave the Presidential run with no effort! McCain spent the next 8 years kissing Obama’s butt!
I often wondered if McCain and Obama was lovers. 1. Obama was already Corrupt, as being from Chicago and a member of Jeremy Wright’s Racist Muslim Church. 2. .Obama was very Gay and supported its cause. 3. Obama supported gay Transsexuals since his Illegal marriage to Micheal Robinson was one! 4. Obama appoints flaky Judges to go along with his Liberal agenda “Gay Marriage” 5. Obama appoints Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State and the Corruption Takes off like a Missile. 6. Obama with Soros Money Blesses hate groups, BLM and invites Terrorist Groups to the White House “The Muslim Brotherhood”.
7. Obama goes to Britain and tries to Promote the Muslim brotherhood as a peace group but is rejected. 8. Obama and Michelle both promote Whiteness agenda another Racist activity. 8. Obama makes Medicare cover sex change for older Transsexuals and Obama makes the Military accept Transsexuals, plus makes the Military cover Sex Change Surgery. 9. Obama pushes for bigger government and puts the Education Department under Government Control and made the States implement
“Common Core” which promotes Homosexuality to children and the 5 Pillars of Islam” Taking the Holy Bible Courses away and replacing them with Courses from the Holy Quran thus damning our children to hell. 10.
Uses the Fake Dossier to spy on Trump. 11. Get’s Comey to free Hillary. 12. Obama has made the USA weaker in the eyes of the World 13. OBAMACARE was passed without Transparency and totally unconstitutional 14. Obama breaks the 28th Admendment by giving the Democrat Congress an exemption from ObamaCARE, and used the IRS to force it on the People! 15. The list goes a Hundred lines futher!
Statistics show 3% of Blacks ad 2% of Whites don’t have photo IDs…so, it would seem far more Whites have no photo IDs. Which means the DemoNAZIS “racist” scream is full of holes.
Build the wall…..
Deport, DEport, DEPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Build the wall, build the wall, build the wall Deport Deport Deport. No daca no daca no daca
Write to OUR PRESIDENT!!! I did the day after the televised meeting with the DemoNAZIS, letting OUR PRESIDENT know NO DACA. How could he possibly have agreed with Feinstein! Deport all ILLEGALS. DACA are no longer kids – they are in their 20-30’s and have done nothing to become citizens. STOP DACA and chain migration, BUILD THE WALL!!! Deport all ILLEGALS!!!
KICK ALL THEIR WORTHLESS ASSES OUT OF HERE . THEY NEED TO GO BACK AND LET THEIR THIEVING GOVERNMENT SUPPORT THEIR ASSES INSTEAD OF US. REMOVING ALL THE ILLEGAL AND WETBACKS IS THE BEST THING THAT COULD BE DONE TO THIS COUNTRY. NOW STAND IN LINE LIKE ALL THE REST OF THE COUNTRYS IN THE WORLD TRYING TO GET IN TO THE BEST PLACE ON THE PLANET. NO MORE WETBACKS!!! NO MORE WETBACKS!!! REMOVE THEIR ASSES AND THEIR ANCHOR BABIES TO WHERE EVER- JUST AS LONG ITS NOT HERE.
I’m just going to sit here and wait for people to figure that they have been voting for the same idiots for years and gee wiz nothing has changed! I guess someone should explain the pattern of abuse to them, I doubt a liberal teacher will though.
No–they’ll teach some ‘airy-fairy’ idealistic nonsensical reason ‘why’ it’s the ‘right way to go’!!! Along the lines of–we don’t want the ‘world’ to think badly about us or, we don’t want to ‘hurt the feelings’ of immigrants–legal or illegal!
Why be concerned about the impact such things will have on our nation? Our kids aren’t being taught to think ‘outside’ the ‘box’ and they don’t have any ‘background’ information to rely on. Their education is horrible!!
If they really want this, they will have to recognize what the American people want.
They are costing us billions, round them up and ship them out along with their democratic helpers!
With the money we save on supporting ILLEGALS including DACA, we could fund the wall entirely!
I knew the reason the corrupt DEMS are pushing so hard to get DACA amnesty. I’m so glad I’m not one of them anymore
Tratorist scum .Daca must end now.Keep your promise MrPresident .Give mercy to the lower middle class now.Deport all none citizens now.No amnesty never more.Stop the back stabbings now.
DACA ? I’ll NEVER VOTE,contribute or spport GOP ever ! Trump is dead to me !
Seriously doubt you ever voted for him, Stewart.
I just saw on the news this Wednesday morning that a Federal judge ruled Dreamers cannot be deported. This is OVERREACH by a judge. Where were these judges when Obama utilized all these executive orders. These Federal judges are parading around as presidents of the U.S. as opposed to being judges. The topic of illegal immigration should NEVER been interwoven in the electoral process to appease a certain demographic to obtain their votes. The Democrats should be ashamed of themselves that they have stooped this low. They are supposed to be serving the legal constituents not sending secret memos and looking for an illegal immigration voter bloc. They say in California one only needs a driver’s license to vote and illegals are allowed to have driver’s license. Do the math.
My reaction as well!! Thank you for your post!!
DumbA$$o CROOKS are never ashamed of ANY of their terrible behavior. Pres. Trump’s team could put Obama’s illegal DACA order in front of a judge who respects the Constitution.
Exactly…
Someone has to dissolve the Ninth CIRCUS Court. It’s decisions are nothing but political and 80% are overturned. Can’t figure out why not 100%,
AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN
“DACA” was an ILLEGAL “act” to begin with. PRESIDENT TRUMP and the REPUBLICANS should not allow the DEMOCOMMUNISTS to keep pushing OSCUMBAGS ILLEGAL “DECREES”. ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL. The one and ONLY thing these DEMOCOMMUNISTS are pushing for, is MORE DEMOCOMMUNIST “VOTES” they could give a RAT”S behind about the “DREAMERS” they are supposedly “protecting”. They just want them on their “plantation” (like the BLACKS.)
Let the left explain why the government has been shutdown to the vast illegal immigrants. Heck maby they will loose their food stamps and housing welfare?
Why should I give damn for DACA immigrants? I’ve been trying to bring my wife’s siblings here since 2005 and immigration hasn’t even reviewed their petitions yet. The only people our incompetent government care a about is the illegals as they will vote Democrat.
The other people they will help are the ones that donate to the deep pockets of politicians.
The Democrats don’t care about American rights – they want to take your rights away and give them to the illegals.
I rather strongly think that supporting and promoting lawbreakers and lawlessness is clearly wrong and is an IM-moral imperative. I have little or no respect for politicians who have such a lust for power that they will support crimes and commit crimes even to the level as serious as usurpation, which is equal to treason (see writings and comments of those who wrote and supported the U.S. Constitution). As for being “compassionate”, what about those who accept the costs, legal hurdles and long waits to legally immigrate and become citizens of this country? Don’t they, especially, deserve our respect and welcome before illegal aliens? I have been a (legal) resident alien in another country and followed those laws, including having my passport stamped for every change of residence. I think I could accept these “dreamers” being allowed legal resident alien status, subject to good behavior, and no government largess since they won’t be citizens nor become citizens.
Deport them all no wall required just place land mines all along the boder very effective and cheap
The Democratic party at one time was for the working man and woman. Now they want the working man and woman to pay the way for everyone else just so they have the votes they need to win, and win for their own greed, not for the good of working men and women.
Let the Democrats shut down the government for the sake of DACA. With the pulpit he has, Trump can flatten the Democrats by telling voting Americans that the Democrats put illegal aliens before their own citizens, that they shut down the government and jeopardized their own citizens for the sake of illegals. If Trump does otherwise, his base will abandon him no matter what other good things he does. Trump must realize that Americans are tired of being played for saps and suckers.
DACA; Democrats, Atheists, Communists, Anti-Americans!! Got it??
They are illegal immigrants. Follow the laws we have, deport them.
Since it looks as if the American taxpayer is going to be saddled with another million Mexicanos if daca is approved–then affirmative action should be abolished immediately. If a person can’t make it in this land, no matter what color/faith/sex/sexual preference without a hand up–then they need to seek another home!
Giving amnesty to those that continue violating our immigration laws will not solve the issue!
Amnesty provided previously didn’t solve the problem and it won’t now!
Why are our government rewarding those violating our immigration laws?
How about rewarding those people who have been waiting to legally immigrate to U.S. and done what was required.
These are the people that should be rewarded by letting them in earlier instead of the long waiting period!
Reward those that abide by our laws, not those that violate them!
If amnesty means “Democrats’ Electoral Success” them amnesty will mean “Republicans’ Electoral Failure”, and that the fact Jack.
WE ARE NOW REAPING THE BENEFITS FROM GOOD OLE MONKEYS EARS 8 YEAR TENURE. WE HAVE DACA- DREAMER ON AND ON AND ON BLM BS ANTIFA CRAP ETC. ALL GIVEN TO THE AMERICAN TAX PAYER.
WHAT WE NEED IS TO ERASE THE 8 YEARS OF OLE MONKEY EARS ILLEGAL TERMS OF HIS PRESIDENCY LIKE THE IDIOTS OF THE BLM AND ANTIFA ARE TRYING TO DO TO THIS COUNTRY.
HISTORY IS JUST THAT AND NO MATTER WHAT SILLY WORDS OR ERASURES OF EVENTS CAN WIPE OUT HISTORY THE WAY THESE FOOLS OF THE BLM AND ANTIFA ARE WANTING US TO DO. WE ARE ALLOWING A 12% OF THE POPULOUS TO DETERMINE IF OUR HISTORY STAYS OR IT IS COVERED UP- NO MATTER IF IT IS COVERED UP IT IS STILL THERE AND CAN’T EVER BE ERASED BECAUSE IT WAS AN EVENT IN TIME. JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE PUTTING A PRETTY NAPKIN OVER THE UGLY ENTREE DOES NOT MEAN THE ENTREE IS NOT UNDER THE NAPKIN.
I SAY PUT OUR STATUES BACK AND LET THEM UNDERSTAND THEY WOULD NOT BE HERE UNLESS IT WAS FOR THE CONFEDERACY AND SLAVE TRADE DAYS. WHICH MIGHT BE BETTER FR US IN THE LONG RUN. THEY COULD BE BACK IN KENYA CHUNKING SPEARS AT ANYTHING THAT MOVED FOR FOOD INSTEAD OF BEING FED BY THE AMERICAN TAX PAYERS . THE NUMBERS OF THE AMOUNT OF BLACKS THAT WORK IS NO WHERE CLOSE TO THEIR 12% OF THE POPULOUS. MAYBE 3% AT BEST. AND THE REST ARE SUPPORTED BY THE US TAX PAYER.
They will SCREW IT UP!!!
Did this really come as news to anyone? If the Democrats can’t import ignorant socialist third world minions, then what else would they do to grow their voter base?
This is beyond obvious.
“Go to the mattresses on Obama’s DREAMERS” What the hell, what about American Born Dreamers who are being denied because DEMOCRATS favor illegals over Americans. Wake up youth of America, the Democrats are not your friends.
This discussion is on the wrong track. The reason it’s baffling to conservatives is because they seemed to be focused on the reason why Democrats want protection for Dreamers and that is their future votes. Let me assure you that is ludicrous it’s not political it’s a humanitarian issue.
Imagine yourselves growing up and finding out you weren’t born here you have no documents you will have no access to higher education you can’t hold office you have no way to be employed in some critical areas of our economy all through no fault of your own and the only country you’ve ever known is the USA.
I know some of you could care less but many are compassionate and it appears most of those folks are in the Democratic party.
I believe this shines a light on our differences on humanitarian issues because for you it’s politics for myself it’s the right thing to do and that is to provide a path for citizenship. Yes, it’s that simple. My words will not change your mind but you should at least hear the other side of this issue.
baloney
You say ba-lon-ee I say bo-lo-nee You say to-ma-to I say tom-a-to.
I is asinine.
What a FEAR MONGERING Liberal BITCH … Enough said !
Their big stick surrounds votes only, and forget the other garbage!
Rome44 obviously an illegal immigrant with white knuckles.
Your protestations are falling on fewer and fewer ears and they are making the protesters look more foolish with every word. If you have any desire to come into contact with the world that the rest of us know and inhabit regarding illegal immigration maybe you should read the latest FOX !!!!! poll on dreamers.
86% of the population favors citizenship for the dreamers. This INCUDES 63% of Trump voting republicans. This article is aimed at the “base” that is rapidly approaching the status of endangered species.
While Ca has Diane Feinstein and hubby making millions off the post offices. How many in California like them. I bet a bunch. Do you think they really care. I doubt it.
don’t forget Nancy Piglosi
This a sorry excuse to buy votes… Crooked Democrats!
I used to work the polls here in CA but quit when they wouldn’t let us ask for ID from anyone. We always had to ask for ID. The illegals have been voting illegally for some time, now, thanks to our Governor. Why he supports the illegals is beyond me!!! We need a new governor, someone who supports the majority not the minority (wrong, legals are now the minority!!!) Sorry for the misinformation there,
They like the cheap labor and Illegal drugs to much .
Why do we want these people? Democrats equal more crime and less police plus mandatory gun control. If Trump concedes this to these people, we as a country are doomed. This action must be pounded into someones head as pure crap against this country. If nothing else, let us put ALL ON THE STATES BALLOT and watch these idiots run out the door.
John Baker you are right on!
http://theremembranceproject.org/nodaca/ PETITION TO PRESDIENT NO DACA DEAL!
the blacks voting democratic for200 years , the illegals doing the same might as well leave before they make you work until you die so you can pay for them
NO DACA. NO DACA. NO DACA. NO DACA. NO DACA. NO DACA.
Nobamba is a dreamer also.He thinks that if he dreams that he is an AMERICAN citizen it will come true.The densoc rats are also dreamers,they dream that every one of these dreamers that they support is worth at least three votes for them.They also dream that the democ rattic party will run our country and everyone will be on welfare with nobody to pay for it.
Wrong again. That is the jurisdiction of your county’s voter registrar. DMV only offers forms for qualified people who want to register to vote when an applicant decides to fill the form DMV forwards the application to the county voter registrars office they make the determinations not the DMV.
No DACA for any reason is acceptable…The dreamers do not qualify to be citizens ever…I agree that we need people coming form other countries like Norway and all in that region too..not all immigrants need to be the brown race….definitely, they already have enough that they will overtake the ethnic groups in America. I hope they have integrated by then and sent the Mexican Flag far out of this great country…Dreamer are in no way qualified. Trump promised to remove them all…We shall definitely hold it against the man if he wavers in any way on cancelling all DACA,,,,,totally and removing all those unqualified children and adults…Let them then apply out of this country to come in the right way
I agree 100%
rome44 You have a point there isn’t a truly fair way to deal with immigration. However there are times when you look at a drivers confusion
as to which way to turn on the highway and you know. I have a job taking notes in
courtrooms and often it’s Traffic Court. Often actual “new drivers in
CA” (over the age of usual learning permits), you know and see their
ethnicity having been given a Drivers Lic., being given driving leniency by the judge and sent to TRAFFIC
SCHOOL with a fine dropped due to no income or on Welfare, standing
there with an interpreter it doesn’t take a whole lot of guess work. And when I go vote I never have to produce an ID, just find my name on the roll and sign beside it.
Our courts are full of persons who have to have interpreters. More important is the docket sheet showing who should be seen. An accounting of “Failure’s to Appear” who get issued bench warrants. Look into those persons records and see the charges how many FTA’s yet no arrests when picked up. They don’t have room in jail for them. They have no money to post bail, no money to pay fine and fill the cash register —-So they cite, tow car (never gets redeemed its junk anyway) but chances are next week they have another junker, another ticket, another tow to start all over again. They will never be arrested UNTIL there is MAJOR property damage/BODILY injury.
I PAY between $500-$1000 more per year for auto insurance to cover myself against the uninsured driver.
Don’t bother trying to get the uninsure in court for you damages chances are you won’t find a correct address to serve them, no job, no registration, (or stolen tags), no license, no proof the name they gave was their own, and probably they drove away before you got even the stolen tag number.
Tell me why I feel I have to drive for myself as well as the other guy!
if the democrats get their way and get amnesty for the dreamers they will drop these people like a hot potato NO AMNESTY NO AMNESTY
daca is important to democrats as illegals are a significant source of new democrat voters. democrats are also fighting the removal of the deceased from voter lists because the dead are also a significant source of democrat voters.
When I voted all I had to do was show my registration card and vote. hats it !!! Oh in Nevada
Dreamers keep on dreamin your outa here
DACA was Obama’s creation; an added insurance political policy for future elections! DACA should be eradicated and the people should be sent back home to their families. If any compromise is to be made; then send at least 1/2 of them back – those who were 18 and older when they were sent here.
President Trump will have to veto a democrat / rino amnesty bill .
It doesn’t make sense, if the wall helps stem the tide of illegal immigrants, why would the left not want it? It does beg the question, what IS their immigration policy?
The DNC wants to flood the U.S. w/ Aliens (Legal & Illegal, but preferably Illegal Aliens) because they do vote. A Harvard study estimated that at least 23 million Aliens voted in the 2016 POTUS election. BTW, Obama encouraged all Illegal Aliens to vote in the 2016 POTUS election, and he indicated that his administration would not enforce the laws preventing Aliens from voting nor would his administration actively prosecute any Alien, if caught, from voting. Hillary Clinton herself indicated on TV that if she were POTUS, she would continue the same policies as Obama in handling Illegal Aliens. Hillary was strongly hinted to Aliens throughout the U.S. to get out and vote. The DNC did an internal study that found Aliens, particularly Illegal Aliens, supported the DNC strongly.
Just tell me how in blazes these ‘illegals’ get in to a voting booth ?? I know that in my state no one can vote unless they are registered ! Am I being silly?? If this problem of illegal voting is really nation wide, then it would seem that a state registration is needed for the vote on the Prez… let the state offices etc stand on their own.
100% accurate in my opinion.
Without voter fraud, which has been totally proven even with the Dems refusing to give Kohlbach their voting records, the Dems would whither and die even faster than they are already going to do.
Good riddance to negative evil liars, thieves and self concerned traitors .
Cut welfare they won’t come
As a general rule, I have learned to NOT trust anything that the Center For American Progress is for!
I still believe that the Democrats are banking on those illegals for votes to win the election. That’s how I see it because it is what they had been doing.
Works fine IF you plan on using the Chicago voting method———-after all, who cares if half the Democratic “voters” have been dead and buried for years?? They can ALWAYS use the Daley excuse “Really?? Who knew?”
And, of course, O’ Blama is a PROUD adherent of this method of “voter registration”———–After all, as a “community organizer” he KNOWS the value of the “SILENT” majority!!
It is an insult to those of us who came in the front door & did everything that was right. As an American citizen, I feel that they have no right to ask for an easy out . The years that they have illegally been in this country is more the enough gift. to them At any time their parents could have returned to the country of origin & did the paperwork for application into this country legally. I knew of many illegals in CA. to go back & forth across the border every couple of weeks with more cash in their pockets than my husband & I ever had. . It is time for them to return & use the gifts the USA has given them to better the country of their birth. Most are multi language so they cannot use that as an excuse & have extended family there
well said
I think this is abundantly clear to conservatives and lefties know it too but will never publically admit it.
A desperate act by a desperate party just to get votes. They’ve tried allowing felons to vote, turned their backs on voter fraud because it benefits them and now want to allow people who came here illegally with their families, to get amnesty. DACA doesn’t benefit Americans and it was illegal for Obama to allow it.
You can’t deport 800,000 illegals BUT NO ANMESTY
No, but you can refuse to let them ‘LEGALIZE’ their parents!! After all, it was the parents who started this mess.
DEMOCRATS simply don’t represent AMERICA anymore…there is more than enough PROOF?
Mass immigration is the equivalent of a NON MILLITARY invasion. It destroys the cultures and values of the people. The world has see the devastating effects of this.
America is rejecting this as well as the rest of the WORLD.
DACA is solely about destroying the US by adding millions of anti-American voters to the demoCROOKs
Clearly, in the short term this might not help the Dems and may actually hurt. But, this is an unusual plan for politicians – it looks 25 or 30 years down the road. Most politicians can’t see beyond the end of their noses. That’s where the next election is.
You know, they keep telling us how great these DACA dreamers are, but I haven’t seen it. I hear more than 60% live in welfare eligible households. Also, I saw them harangue and upbraid their own ally, Nancy Pelosi. That lead me to believe they are arrogant ingrates.
WE THE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT ILLEGALS TAKING TRILLIONS OF TAX DOLLARS FOR THE IDIOT DUMBOCRATS TO GET VOTES. WE WANT OUR LAWS ENFORDED. DACA WAS PUT IN PLACE BY OBUMMER AND IT WAS ILLEGAL SO TRUMP SHOULD PUT IN AN ORDER TO GET RID OF IT SINCE IT WAS ILLEGAL IN THE FIRST PLACE
DACA IS NOT A LAW OR NOTHING ELSE. OBAMA LIVE CREATING PROBLEMS FOR TRUE AMERICAN CITIZENS. DACA SHOULD BE DEPORTED AND NOT BECOME LAW. Screw the DEMORATS and liberals it’s not only. There country
The Democrat Party is as Dead Football Hollywood Television & MSM…!!! “RIP”
[Leaked Memo: DACA Amnesty “Critical” to Democrats’ Electoral Success] No duh! That is what this illegal immigrant, no borders issue is all about. The Democrats (slave owners of old) are doing an end-run around our Constitution and all our civil liberties by illegally bringing these people in by the millions and stirring them up to be activists and fraudulently voting multiple times each, nullifying legitimate citizen’s votes. They took California. They’re going for Texas (Houston is in really bad shape), and it is just a matter of time before they overthrow America if amnesty is in any way approved. These liberal globalists have put us in a pickle and Trump will need to hang tough and say no, or we’re doomed. It is just a matter of time. These illegals are fighting to win. Once America is overthrown, we’ll be starving like Venezuelans.
What needs to be passed in immigration law is that no public funds will be used to provide welfare to Illegal immigrants. Los Angeles last year spent 1.3 billion dollars in welfare payments to illegal immigrants. We do not owe these lawbreakers anything. We should institute Mexico’s immigration law here, that would solve the problem.
They don’t give illegal immigrants anything but a jail sentence.