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Liberals Have No Reason to Celebrate Russian Indictments
Posted On 18 Feb 2018
For some odd reason, the liberal Resistance against President Donald Trump was turning cartwheels over the indictments handed down by Special Counsel Robert Mueller on Friday. There seemed to be this belief, both spoken and unspoken, that this was some major victory against the president. We’re still not sure what they’re talking about.
What the indictments actually say has little or nothing to do with what liberals appear to THINK they say. We’ll give them this: The Russians did attempt to meddle in the 2016 elections. Okay? Was anyone still harboring any doubts about that? That was never really the central question.
The central questions – Did Russia hack the DNC? Did they want Trump to win the election? Did the Trump campaign work with the Russians in some way? – are no more answered by these indictments than the question of life on Mars. If anything, these indictments actually cast some degree of extra doubt on them – especially the last two.
For one thing, the indictments say specifically that the Russians worked with Americans who were “unwitting” as to what it was they were getting into. Unwitting means…they didn’t know they were Russian government officials. Unwitting means…they did not commit a crime. Unwitting means…there was no collusion.
Now the indictments do NOT say, as some conservative commentators have missed, that the collusion question is now off the table. We’re sure Mueller and the Democrats will continue to pursue this ragged, barren patch of land for collusion for as long as they can wring political juice out of it. But while they may not represent the final exoneration of the Trump campaign, they do go a ways toward indicating that Mueller has found nothing of interest. They say it will be darkest before the light, but we may be soon approaching the point where we can put that question to bed and move on. Let’s hope.
Furthermore, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said specifically that there was nothing in the indictments that should cause anyone to think that the Russians changed the outcome of the election.
“There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity,” he said. “There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.”
This, again, is not an excuse to say, “See, even if the Russians interfered, it didn’t change anything.” Rosenstein isn’t saying that. That would be, indeed, impossible to really know. What metric would prove whether or not Russian ads and Facebook posts caused people to support Trump or turn against Hillary? But it does show that the very worst of the accusations – that Putin somehow STOLE the election away from Clinton – are not supported by facts. They are, as ever, just excuses.
What is really notable about these indictments is not what’s in them, but what isn’t. We’re nearly two years down the road from the initiation of this investigation and there’s still NO proof that the Trump campaign worked with the Russians to steal the election. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but when you have the entire U.S. intelligence community working on these questions, the lack of proof certainly says something about that proof’s existence.
I do not care how we did not get HRC. I only thank God that we did not. We do not want anymore Clinton’s Obama’s, Kennedy’s, Bush’s or even Biden They all have been at the Government trough far to long & too many times with their double & triple dipping of pensions,perks & security that costs the American taxpayers millions every year they live. It is time this stopped & was taken away from them. This is not what the founding fathers had intended. They were supposed to serve a few years then return home to their farms & business with no re-numeration & support themselves not suck off the American taxpayer
Although Rosenstein sees the handwriting on the wall and is covering his behind to save his job, he made a definitive statement that completely makes the Mueller witch hunt an exercise in political skulduggery. This expensive charade should be terminated immediately and resources applied to the Clinton pay for play crimes.
Coming soon: more Trumpsters in the dumpsters.
:~P THAT prediction is as goofy as the day is long!! :~D
Pretty funny though…
Run you fat coward, ruuunn!!
Where are the first ones? Are you delusional?
Your absolutly right on my smart n wise friend…
Only in your fevered imagination ray2hill you loser Hillary troll.
Please note that the ads taken out by the so-called Russian meddlers were taken out AFTER the election, so there was no election meddling. Also, the ads, when analyzed, were both directed at Blacks and were meant to stir up unrest, dissension and anger, causing further division among Americans. Of course, mainstream media doesn’t mention this, and this article doesn’t mention this because encouraging Americans to listen to each other and discuss matters and resolve our differences is not something anyone seems to care about any longer, and that is real news.
60% of Americans believe Trump is dirty. I believe that 60%, just like I believe the more than 3 million people that voted for Clinton over Comrade Trump.
Just like any good prosecutor, Mueller starts at the bottom, and works his way up to the head of the snake. it’s called, “building a case”, just like they go after organized crime figures.
Next round of indictments will most assuredly involve criminals a little bit closer to the snake’s head. Maybe his son Junior, or probably Kushner who is on very thin ice, which makes him very vulnerable to start singing like a little canary. Tick Tock Tick Tock.
Keep smoking the OdumbAss smoke. Clinton is the GUILTY one. SHE is the one who passed CLASSIFIED EMAILS using an ILLEGAL, PRIVATE SERVER. Even Sen Schiff admitted Crooked Hitlery’s email account was HACKED BY THE RUSSIANS.. She should have been in PRISON a long time ago, but, she is a D.C. “elitist”, an “untouchable”.. Our “government” inaction is the PROBLEM. They keep going after the wrong CRIMINAL..
100% of Americans believe you are a piece of obama and lying out your hillary.
Good story, Bill.
Except for one thing…Mueller “grasp” has been misguided. He’s missed grabbing the REAL snakes in all of this. That being the Democrat Party’s chief operatives….
Go after Organized Crime Figures. Would those Figures launder money, collect $10 Billion for Haiti, and keep 95% of that Money, sell our Uranium, but our Treasury didn’t get that money, run a Tax deductible charity that only pays out less than 6% to charity? If Kushner is on thin ice, Hillary is through the ice and up to her knees in icy pond water.
I’m guessing you pulled that number out of your ass. I hope you wash it, before you swallow it!
Trump in the Rassmussen poll is 5 point higher than Hussein O was in the same time of his presidency and Hussein had the media backing him.
Nothing will become of Trump and Russia collusion because there wasn’t any.
It’s already been proven that it was Hillary who colluded with the Russians when she bought the fake Russian dossier for $12 million dollars that wasn’t told to the FISA judge that Hillary bought it. Hillary also colluded with the Russians when they “donated” $145 million to the Clinton slush fund. there’s also her e-mails and her perjury before congress and the FBI, and also committing obstruction of justice. The DOJ is going to revisit. Hillary’s time has come. Tick Tock Tick Tock
It is a joke that Muller spend millions of our citizens money to indict 18 Russians who are not even belong to our country. This is how the Demorats and the swamp spend our money. Our government is also meddling with other countries elections. If you remembered how shit head Obama send our money to Isreal to meddling with their election. So instead of indicting the swamp in the FBI and DOJ as well as evil Hillary and corrupt Obama, phony Muller is using the Russians to distract from the real culprits. Citizens of the United States demand that Muller be fired. We also demand that the millions of dollar that Muller spent be paid back to us by the Demorats, evil Hillary, corrupt Obama and Muller.
You puks have done nothing for this country,your only worried about the filthy rich..trump is going to be put in prison for his very many crimes over the yrs,and no sain woman will ever vote for his sorry ass again..one yr and soon to be taken out of wh,in hand cuffs..hes a fraud,and is bring this counrty to its knees,all for putin and the comi puks who are all blood sucking lechees!! Get a life…
Silly troll this is an adult conversation. Go back to your video games in mommy’s basement.
Sorry but im not a puk.and your spit on trump is going down very soon!i🙏🙏🙏🙏
RIGHT THEIR COMRADES ARE BEING PROSECUTED AND CONVICTED OF MEDDLING IN OUR ELECTION’S!!
Mueller was given only one directive …. Nail Trump and get him out of office.
This is an absolute smoke screen with 13 Russians who will never set foot in our courts.
. $1.3 Million Russian expenditure is less than Mueller spent in his first few months.
. Those contact all existed and were known long before Trump Campaign.
. FISA warrant were falsely attained and should be shut down unless Mueller can give a congressional report to prove he has something.
I’m sorry, who gave Mueller that “directive” again?
What I find interesting is they indict Russian nationals, which means they will never be prosecuted, and may not even be real. Just more bs to avoid explaining why they have wasted millions of tax dollars trying to help the democrats cover their tracks.
“Was anyone still harboring doubts about this?” You’re kidding right? Trump still believes Putin played no part in it. If he didn’t believe it, why has he not enforced the sanctions against Russia? Trying to be nice? Doesn’t want to hurt their feelings? Personally, I don’t think anything would have changed the election, but as a matter of national security we need to send a message to Putin that it will not be tolerated.
Funny, you din’t mention that to your pal Killary when she had classified documents on her unsecured server.
First off, “pal” I vote Republican. Secondly, if she guilty, she should be charged. Pure and simple.
GW62, Trump has already done that more than once. You need to keep up and informed.
You are partly correct. Trump DID ask Putin, (twice if memory serves) if Russia had interfered in the election. Putin denied it. The problem was Trump’s response, He said, and I quote, “I believe him”. If you know something more than that, please inform me, o stable genius…
I am guessing that you pretty much get your news and information from liberals who keep quiet about the harsh sanctions President Trump has placed on Russia.
Check YOUR facts pal. Congress had to force Trump to sign the bill over his objections that it contained “clearly unconstitutional provisions”. He then stated that he might not enforce them. Hardly the “harsh” sanctions you refer to. Maybe you shouldn’t get your news from sources that just tell you what you want to hear.
Yep, you are stuck in lala land, and you don’t understand separation of powers or who has what powers. Get blocked. X
Sorry you feel so threatened, snowflake…
Also, just so know a little bit more, it was Obama of all people, who put the current sanctions on Russia back in 2014. Expand your news knowledge beyond Hannity. You might be surprised
You have made my point, Democrat.
Wrong information once again, pal. Try again. I’ll give you a hint. Try GDI, and see what you come up with…
Im happy to know theres a few smart people on here tonight,trumper is going down for susporting the russians,and putin,and the chincks also..he killing this country!!WAKE UP ALL YOU POTUS BELIEVERS!!!
All propaganda!!
Mueller and his investigation is nothing but a joke. Inspector Jacques Clouseau could have done a better job than Mueller.
the Marx brothers could have done a better job and would have been fun to watch. Mueller only caught a bunch of Russian hecklers throwing spit balls, Hillary Clinton was behind this circus to keep the cover up of herself and Obama going. If it’s criminals Mueller was supposed to find he was looking into the wrong campaign and party. But all the lawyers on his team were democrats. This investigation is similar to the attack on Pear Harbor in as much it will live in infamy.
Trump should publically tell Mueller that his position is not a sinecure nor a license to run roughshod over the American political or judicial systems. He should tell him he has until July 1 to wrap things up or he will shut things down. He could also appoint a special counsel to investigate Mueller and the partisan subalterns he hired as investigators.
come on it had to be somebody. How in the hell does someone lose an election that is rigged and it’s your turn? What kind of doofus does that? maybe one wearing a vagina hat or baggy out of style pants suits might. Yes it was a tragic loss for Hillary and the democrats considering their opponent was supposed to be a clown with no path to the White House that should have lost by a landslide. This type of humiliation just might cause them not to even show up in 2020 for another try.
the problem is that the democrats started this farce knowing there was no collusion with the Russians on Trumps campaign they were only hoping and believing Trump would fire the idiot Mueller and then they could scream “he’s Hiding something” forever. Now they have egg on their face as they been out smarted by Trump again, will they never learn?
If your “foundation” accepts tens of millions of dollars for pre-paid influence peddling then you must come up with an outlandish spin that the Russians colluded with the Trump campaign to defeat you. If Hillary was an honest politician, she would return the pay for play funds since she lost fair and square and can no longer deliver the goods.
It’s good to see someone from the fringes of the alt right comparing Comrade Trump to Hussein. That’s funny.
Now, so far as the conspiracy theories go about all the crimes committed by the Clintons, Obama, the DNC, Podesta etc.etc. Dude, here’s the big difference between them and Comrade Trump. There is no DOJ, FBI, or any other legal authority going after them, Including Attorney General Sessions.
But you do have Special Counsel Mueller hot on the trail of fat arse Comrade Trump. Just a matter of time. Tick Tock Tick Tock.
Mueller is not only a Republican, but a war hero, being awarded the Bronze star for bravery, and the Purple Heart for taking a bullet through the leg in Viet Nam.
What has the Comrade done. He got 5 draft deferments from serving in Viet Nam for a sore foot, but still played plenty of golf. He’s been divorced and married 4 or 5 times. He’s been accused by more than 20 women of sexual abuse. I am going to stop here, because I’m getting nauseous just thinking about that arse hole. Too late, I just puked. LOL
The use of the word “un-wiitng” seems to be a stage setting for further inquiry that should arise when the investigation extends to Hillary/DNC collusion in the Russian dossier scam?
The left believes that Trump & the Republicans are going down with the Mueller investigation, & the right says it’s the Democrats. Looks like there’s a lot of anticipation & suspense either way. Just carry on, Mueller, & let the chips fall where they may! In any case, it is essential that the investigation be thorough & justice be carried out.
Your article seems to leave out a significant fact. The RNC server hacks failed because they were not on a server in Hillary Clinton’s bathroom. I have 45 years of experience in IT and would feel much more comfortable having network professionals secure my servers.
I think Mueller is just filling pockets with this BS. The question is whose pockets? His or whose. He keeps this going to cover his participation in the uranium deal. Mueller is as dirty as the rest of them.
The Democrats lost, not because of the Russians, but because of Hillary Clinton. How obvious can it be?