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Lieberman Warns Dems: Don’t Let Far Left Take Over Party

Posted On 04 Dec 2016
By : Restore American Glory
Comments: 95

Former Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman said in a radio interview this weekend that the Democrats need a leader who can keep the liberal wing of the party in check. Lieberman, who was always one of the most conservative Democrats in the Senate – even switching to become an Independent late in his career – told radio host John Catsimatidis that Republicans and Democrats need to cooperate for the good of the country.

“Here is my fear about the future of the Democratic Party,” said Lieberman. “In a way, relatively speaking, Hillary Clinton was representative of the center-left of the Democratic Party, not the pure left.

“Now I think there will be a real attempt by ‘the left’ left of the Democratic Party to take over the party, and I don’t think that’s the way to go to make it an effective party,” he continued. “It’s certainly not the party that I got drawn to. It’s not the party that I worked so hard for when Bill Clinton was president and it’s not going to be a winning party.”

Lieberman is hinting at the fact that people like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders have been touted as the current leaders of the Democratic Party in the wake of Hillary’s historic defeat. There is a sense among young liberals that Sanders could have beaten Trump in the general election, though there’s no real reason to believe that’s true. DNC shenanigans or not, Sanders got crushed by Hillary in the South and in any area where minorities carried a significant percentage of the electorate. Not to mention that Sanders never had to endure a Trump/GOP onslaught. His supporters are underestimating how badly the word “socialism” plays in middle America.

At the same time, though, Lieberman is downplaying Clinton’s own liberal tendencies. You can’t pretend she was running on a platform similar to her husband’s. For as much as she tried to reach out to Republican voters, her agenda was even further left than Obama’s in many respects. Her position on illegal immigration, in particular, felt not only “lenient” but almost un-American. And she fully embraced the culture war, which may partly explain why she failed to scoop up the president’s white working class voters.

“To me, both parties better watch out not to go back to the extremes – left and right – and not working with each other,” Lieberman said. “I think that the public really wants both parties to get together, work together and solve some of the problems of our country, make the future better.”

To do that, Democrats will not only have to resist the insane voices from their left wing, they’ll have to stop treating Trump like he’s some kind of political demon to be vanquished.

We’ll see if they have the ability to do that.

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  1. Stephen Serafin December 4, 2016 at 10:08 pm Reply

    During the Bill Clinton years, I was an Independent who leaned Democrat because the Religious Right sought to hijack the Republican Party. I replied on many Republican surveys that I would never be a Republican as long as the Religious Right tried to dictate how they wanted me to believe. But as the Democrats leaned more left, I found myself closer to the republican Party since my personal values were more moderate and in the middle ground. You all know the phrase “socially liberal but fiscal conservative. I have no use for the far Right or the far Left. As those factions scream across the chasm at each other, they are more alike than different.

    • Dee December 5, 2016 at 12:09 am Reply

      The dems are Responsible for all the B.S. Obummer has done to our country . I can’t wait till all these ass hol*^ are shut down with this crap they have spread throughout our country . We Will Again say The Pledge Of Aligience in our schools ,and Christ and Christmas will fill our lands . Those who don’t agree , to Damn bad . We are taking our country back and restoring its Judeo Christian Values our Founding Fathers fought for !! Kick , Cry , Scream , go to your safe places , and come back out when you get some morals , or leave , no one will miss you !

      • greenlantern1 December 5, 2016 at 1:57 am Reply

        Founding Fathers?
        Trump endorsed Romney.
        Romney is a MORMON.
        The BOOK OF MORMON was written in 1830!
        Is that the WORD OF GOD?
        Were our FOUNDING FATHERS MORMONS?

        • Dee December 5, 2016 at 2:20 am Reply

          Yah I don’t care for Romney anymore . He showed his true colors when he went against Trump

          • greenlantern1 December 5, 2016 at 10:34 am

            Romney?
            Both thugs showed their true colors!!

          • Cookie Vranish December 6, 2016 at 1:02 pm

            What thugs are you talking about?

          • greenlantern1 December 6, 2016 at 2:06 pm

            Thugs?
            Our ONLY, jailed, attorney-general was Nixon’s first, John Mitchell!
            Our ONLY VP, to enter a plea bargain, was Nixon’s first, Spiro Agnew!
            Our ONLY president, to ACCEPT a pardon, was Nixon!
            Ever read about his “hard hat” riot in New York City?
            Ever hear of police officers Alyn Beck and Igor Soldo?
            They were murdered by Jerad Miller and Amanda Miller!
            Their gang leader was Cliven Bundy!
            Ever hear of fellow Americans Ray Kot, Sunnil Rattu and Martin Caballero?
            They were murdered at Trump Taj Mahal!
            It had ONE security officer for 11 floors of parking!
            Adequate police protection?

          • Valor December 6, 2016 at 1:40 pm

            His true colors were shown when he was willing to sacrifice America to Hillary.

        • Valor December 6, 2016 at 1:39 pm Reply

          Grow up. You know nothing about what you are talking about.

      • Mikenfaye December 6, 2016 at 1:42 pm Reply

        Our country was not founded on judeo- Christian values but solely Christian values. This Judeo-Christian crap started after WW11 and was never mentioned by the Founding Fathers, Jews do not like Christians nor do they support Christian values.
        Most jews are left wing democrats. Most anti Christian groups like the ACLU are founded and run by jews.
        Judeo-Christian is just a PC term that has no basis in reality and needs to stop if we are going to to get any Christian values back. Mike

        • joe s December 6, 2016 at 2:41 pm Reply

          your full of crap,nit wit, Christians came from Jews, as Christ was a Rabbi and the first Christians were Jewish first, hence Judeo-Christian DUH !

          • Mikenfaye December 7, 2016 at 2:43 am

            Joe, First learn how to spell correctly and learn the difference between your and you’re, then learn your Bible instead of the crap you have read from Judeo Christians. But that is probably to deep a subject for you. Christians did not come from jews but from Israelites (not Israelis), Christ was not a jew but an Israelite from David’s lineage (David was not a jew either). Christ said “I come but not for the lost sheep of the House of Israel. Matt 10:6 and 15:24. The jews were not his sheep nor were they ever lost. Too much more here for you to comprehend even if you were interested which you are not.
            For others than yourself Use a Strong’s Concordance to look up jew and Israel and you will see that Israel has been mistranslated jew several times in the New testament.
            The word “jew” was not even used in the Bible until Kings 2 at least a thousand years or more after Genesis so how could the Old Testament Prophets be jews? They were not. They were Hebrews and then Israelites after Joseph and Israel , his father and the 12 tribes, none of whom were jews. The jews were and are apostates and frauds and were never Israelites or God’s chosen. Israel was and is the “apple of his eye”. Mike

          • joe s December 7, 2016 at 5:35 pm

            Wow what luck for us to bask in the light of a genius jackass anti Jewish moron who acts so superior as if it knew anything, but at least it voted for the beautiful Hillary.

        • Elizabeth Whitehouse December 7, 2016 at 1:51 am Reply

          And you think that we should be getting Christian values back? Is that your idea of “great again”?

          • joe katona December 7, 2016 at 4:34 pm

            why r u such a stupid liberal bitch ?? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/856893ecaac0636003270b0695953f7a5ecb234b6ca0208da4183f0189c0c669.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9472a98c4ce502b04a7178b274d274bb4ea8636f3de9de9191914e571926d7f3.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6eb63cbaceba25bba271fbf77b5f96ec57428edc735336cda774277df02085a3.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6668610bc167c7914adc67811bf8b1a156d5d89232eeb94645852a81a7f867ae.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/970e058c0ff2bb30b8446cb63ac287d2dcadc5dacadf7fddc769e153313d54ca.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/00da0ee2158c913816ed75c5942beeb8ac37fe9fc05b790b1a6bfdb669c92479.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/78abccb7dec22a002dcb4d6bf22a0742c92ed56edeb4f6f6dad4e09d9221e54d.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cc0fc3f67d7a953084f08dbcf9dc9a0928267226e7b9274d20d3e871217bbf38.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/77f7a6adb54367a7e714e88ef96419184123d72971b27e2a166af246e9c87009.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/394e0fa5ac091d408573bd534b9245f4746589d902e986618ba4a35e7516bb4e.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f2871bac635acc8940c04ce9566c565a3e04bf0aa1db2e12a0f90b26eef3da00.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b39848342f8abccb4c8b3532b99599493685a0fabfef8257904fac089dd7ca6f.png

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse December 8, 2016 at 12:41 am

            I don’t know Joe. I don’t think of myself as either stupid or a bitch. Liberal I will admit to, but I don’t see that as a fault either. To me,being liberal means having an open mind, and making decisions based on evidence rather than conspiracy theories.

          • joe s December 8, 2016 at 4:35 pm

            Open mind ??? Libs never have an open mind on non lib thought. Their brilliant saying is “be reasonable and do it my way” .

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse December 9, 2016 at 4:42 am

            Sort of what George Bush said. I think he put it more like “everything would be fine if you just agreed with me”

          • joe katona December 9, 2016 at 6:35 pm

            i think u need a good conservative bangin.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse December 9, 2016 at 6:49 pm

            Are you volunteering? Creep.

          • Mikenfaye December 8, 2016 at 1:05 am

            And you don’t?

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse December 8, 2016 at 2:13 am

            NO

          • Mikenfaye December 8, 2016 at 11:54 am

            Wow, the jew-christians are in an uproar. Lib-tards. They can;t spell, write or express themselves other that by profanity. Mike

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse December 8, 2016 at 3:01 pm

            I rather think that there are more self-proclaimed christians on the right than on the left. I’m also guessing that many “lib-tards” are non-believers.

          • DAlnB41 December 9, 2016 at 3:11 pm

            They believe more in party leaders than anything else. The Democrats believe you must follow party doctrine to the ‘T’ and do what you are told to do, say what you are told to say and respond how you are told to respond. It was their leadership that ruined their party and they are heading back down that same trail again. Until they get some party leadership that respects honesty, has a higher level of integrity and loyalty to the American people and the nation they will continue struggling. The Obama Administration turned it’s back on the Ameriacn workers favoring big business and CEOs who were more interested in filling their own pockets than in keeping America “Great!” The people saw that- that is why we have a president (Trump) who says, “Make America Great” instead of one (Hillary) who said, “America is just fine!”

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse December 9, 2016 at 6:29 pm

            Sometimes I think I must live in an alternative universe, one in which every time someone says Republican, I hear Democrat – and vice versa.

            Dave Barry quipped: The Democrats seem to be basically nicer people, but they have demonstrated time and again that they have the management skills of celery.

            Plus, I have known many democrats who weigh each situation on its merits, but only one republican (our Congressman for 22 years) who voted his conscience and not the party line.

            In my alternative universe, we are staggered at the idea the Trump is in favor of American workers rather than CEOs who are more interested in filling their own pockets.

  2. Warren December 4, 2016 at 10:32 pm Reply

    The Far Left took over the Democratic Party many years ago. So now let them come up Front & Center to show their Ugly Mugs while spewing their Traitorous Crap

    • DAlnB41 December 6, 2016 at 3:09 pm Reply

      If the democrats are going to recover they are going to have to dump everyone in their leadership positions. Nothing came out of this election clearer than the fact the Democrats have lost their ability to do anything right. Hanging their hat on anyone with the reputation Hillary has was absurd; trying to lie their way to a Hillary victory when the vast majority of Americans and throughout the world know Hillary as a habitual liar and a thief and known for significant failures was a dumb thing to do. Banking on the thought that regardless of her horrible past she could become the first woman president of the United states was a miscalculation; The democrats have a lot of fine women in congress who could have taken this election. There are probably thousands (+) of them all over American that would have been a far better choice than Hillary and we would have had our first woman president – had it not been for p–s poor party leaders!

      • maxx December 6, 2016 at 4:11 pm Reply

        The democrat party has been on a spiral of decline since the 1960’s. In 5 decades there are not many democrats except the ultra liberal communist / Marxist subversives that are slithering around this country living off the hand outs of a terribly corrupt and wounded government. We can only hope they will use “abortion” to rid this country of the despots they are.

      • Gary Von Neida December 11, 2016 at 3:20 am Reply

        Hillary will not give up until the Party is covered with Her mud.

    • Ken says December 10, 2016 at 5:31 pm Reply

      “Far Left” – you must mean the Liberal Elite Establishment that has controlled our Government for the last 28 years with their Liberal RINO and DEM Puppets. The Establishment controls Congress and the WH.

      • Warren December 11, 2016 at 8:42 am Reply

        No ! I mean the NWO or Bilderbergers, CFR or a dozen other names “Banker Families” & they have had complete control for 53 Years ever since they Murdered Jack & got away with it. Liberals are just their indoctrinated Dimwitted Puppets. Want to see a perfect examples go to any College Professor Meeting.

        • Ken says December 11, 2016 at 4:08 pm Reply

          I’m talking about total control of our government – not just infiltration. If you are only looking at bankers as members of the CFR – you have only a small slice of the pie. What about Bill Clinton, Heidi Cruz, George HWBush, George Soros, World Leaders from around the World – all planning World wide control.

          • Warren December 12, 2016 at 7:28 am

            All those people are just puppets H.W. got his ticket by running the CIA team in Dallas only one that is not a puppet but a puppet master is Gyorgy Schwartz he is funding over 200 groups here in the US. Members of CFR are appointed by Bilderbergers JFK, Bush 41 & Kissinger were a few, so here: Rockefeller Warburg Rothschild JP Morgan just a few of Trillionaires at the top

          • Ken says December 12, 2016 at 3:54 pm

            Don’t forget Bill Clinton, Heidi Cruz (Mrs Ted Cruz), George Soros and the Ilk. Old man Bush was on the CFR during WWII and instrumental in forming the European Union. Heidi Cruz was on the committee that crafted the plans for the North American Union – Canada, USA and Central America – no borders with a central government.

  3. P. Kathy Kleiman December 4, 2016 at 10:43 pm Reply

    Well now, if the Democratic party wishes to sink itself into oblivion, well that is just fine with me, I say that they come on out and just say it and we can all be clear on it. The Democratic party has taken such a sharp left, that they should just out and out call themselves what they have always been known to be. Marxist/Socialist Party of America, with, of course the US Communist party on Berkley signing on to HRC’s ticket. I just wonder what would have happened if they wouldn’t have kept it hidden how much they adored Hitler in the prewar Germany? Or how much they saw in Mussolini’s Italy to re appropriate it in the US or in Franco’s Spain? Don’t take my word for it, Google FDR and pre war Nazism, or Wilson and Mussolini. You may find some interesting stuff. So, let us all just call a spade a spade and get on with the Democratic party changing to its new name..more hope and change anyone? The US Communist Party since any or all discussions on these “Progressive” campuses speak so loudly you need a bullhorn. If they shut down the speech to where you cannot have a discussion, then they have won the argument. The gurus of the ’60’s & 70’s learned well that once the students begin to learn real history, as I did, they see right through the facade. So, by cloaking students with “feelings” and “emotions” the students themselves are turning themselves into slaves. They are not taught real history, for again, they may see through this, and they will not make that mistake twice. These professors are well educated but the students who come across my desk for student papers could never be called culturally literate if their lives depended on it. They couldn’t find their way out of an office building with out someone showing them the way, more less on the sidewalks of today’s streets. Too bad that these now really angered professors won’t just go silently into the night, stay holed up in their libraries dreaming about their glory days…nope, no such luck. Even the recent failure of another government turned Socialist, France will never make them understand that while we still have a very AMERICAN CONSTITUTION, they will never prosper. But, they will have their share of kids to dumb down, and while dumbing them down, they ended up with no one behind the wheel. In other words these kids could never take on their professor’s idiologies to the world in which they live,for they haven’t the ability to live out in that big bad ole world. Good goin’ gurus. Mayhaps the next generation you might think about something that hasn’t already been tried.

    • greenlantern1 December 5, 2016 at 1:51 am Reply

      Communist?
      Bush, not Obama, golfed with his comrade, Vladimir Putin!
      The Koch brothers built Putin’s oil wells!
      Ever hear of WIKILEAKS?

      • Retired December 6, 2016 at 12:49 am Reply

        Do you have a problem with World leaders being able to sit down and talk . Obama was not well liked unless there were US Dollars attached.

        • greenlantern1 December 6, 2016 at 11:22 am Reply

          Bolton wants to STAY in the UN?

  4. greenlantern1 December 5, 2016 at 1:49 am Reply

    Ever hear of FinCen?
    It is part of the Treasury Department.
    It fined, a $10,000,000 fine, against Trump Taj Mahal!
    That fine was paid!
    It was used, by terrorists, to launder money!
    Terrorists!
    ISIS?
    Shouldn’t Trump know what goes on in those buildings?

    • Retired December 6, 2016 at 12:51 am Reply

      Are you anti America ?

  5. NERDWORLD PROBLEMS December 5, 2016 at 8:51 pm Reply

    He’s a bit late on that warning isn’t he?

    • Retired December 6, 2016 at 12:46 am Reply

      He was also a leader of the Useless. Him and Billy Boy were no angels at the time.

  6. RuFus92 December 6, 2016 at 12:17 pm Reply

    We’ve seen 8 years of their far left agenda in the oval office . I’d say Joe don’t warn them let them go on to their well deserved demise and take all the Dumbocrats that are hanging on to them go with them. Obama has been as far left as this Islamic pick for the DNC is and probably confers daily with him. It is time once and for all to dismantle the present day Democratic Party and reinstall some American values and integrity to them if they wish to survive in the world that is coming. I remember men like Estes Kefauver and those of his ilk that once represented the Democratic Party.

    • Elizabeth Whitehouse December 6, 2016 at 1:38 pm Reply

      While I am not wild about the two-party system that has been in place for so long, I am considerably less enthusiastic about a one party state, which seems to be the way we are headed.

      A couple of years ago, I heard Bill Clinton say that the Republican party decided forty years ago to become the party permanently in power. I think he was mistaken – it was corporate America that decided to consolidate their rule of the United States, and the Republican party was the conduit. And integrity is not a word I would apply to either corporations or republicans. As for those American values, as someone said “America is not a country, it’s just a business”.

  7. RsGoat December 6, 2016 at 12:45 pm Reply

    No surprise there, I wrote my senetor’s that same thing 8 years ago when the Obama, Reid and Pelosi team were riding rough shod over anyone who got in their way and complaining that noone was interested in compromise? Warnd both that he would lead to the destruction of the Democratic Party and then both Houses were replaced. Too everyone’s surprise Hillary delivered a coup de gras in how she handled the “Super elector’s” in disposing of Brernie Sanders not to mention the protection she has recieved in avoiding trail for her handling of offical secure government emails! that others have lost careers over.
    If the Democratic Party can’t learn to compromise and pull up from the nose dive of this wild too far left swing Lieberman won’t only be right but so will I have been.

    • jimmy midnight December 6, 2016 at 1:25 pm Reply

      Lieberman, the Wall Street loving Zionist Colonial, is signaling that he wants out of the D party if the lefties take over. See ya, Joe. Don’t let the door whack your sorry reactionary backside on the way.

      For at least 20 years, the D party has been bursting at the seams with committed, capable, conscientious progressive activists, always told 2 get behind some third-way douchebag candidate. Now, no one will have 2 tell us/them to go ahead and pick up the pieces, and build something credible and understandable from them.

      • RsGoat December 6, 2016 at 11:14 pm Reply

        I can see you will contiue to build a plan for failure jimmy. You never noticed when both the communist powerhouses added capitolist economic engines to power their economies or the numerous demonstrations in Paris and Greece becaue no amount of pandering cuold please their clutching grabbing wanting citizen’s who just had to have more from them regardless of earning anything. You would have to travel to Germany to hear them call their government the Green Machine and understand the multiple ways they can tax people to paly for all the “free stuff?” they get, right! And you would really need to pay attention to notice how each time we copy the socialist ways our national debt increases along with unemployment! While we copy them they copy us.
        They copy a sucessful model we copy the failing model.
        But you believe what you want in your fairy tail world and ignore history or news.

        • jimmy midnight December 7, 2016 at 12:47 am Reply

          Fairy “tales,” are narratives, fairy “tails” would B quite unusual appendages, even on fictional humanoids. This might constitute evidence you’re also clueless about political .

          When the Big Bourgeois get into trouble that money can fix, they “just click on print.” When you take the NATIONAL DEBT!!!!! blinders off, you may B able 2 C that what we need is a re-distrib

          • RsGoat December 7, 2016 at 12:00 pm

            Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them. I’m sorry for you, either you have not read your history or don’t understand it I hope you do better in your personal life. Redistrobution of wealth has distroyed many countries economic systems and the lives of the people who lived in them. Stalin in particular enjoyed watching his people starve while they learned to accept his redistrobution but that was extreem.

  8. fred russo December 6, 2016 at 1:22 pm Reply

    This party represents the NUTCAKES of America!!!!

  9. EMIRCITNA December 6, 2016 at 1:24 pm Reply

    Joe Lieberman seems to be a bit ‘slow’ in realizing that the ‘far left’ has been in control of the Democrat Party for a loooooooooooong time!!!!! (then again, Joe Lieberman is a typical Democrat with a ‘slow’ mind!)

    • Elizabeth Whitehouse December 6, 2016 at 1:40 pm Reply

      As opposed to the bright sparks who voted for dictator-in-chief.

    • squeak December 6, 2016 at 2:02 pm Reply

      Seems like some of the men in the Democratic party with their first name beginning with a ” J ” do not have too many smarts up there, Joe Biden for instance ? LOL

  10. Patriot47 December 6, 2016 at 1:32 pm Reply

    The commiecrat party is too far gone. Note re-appointment of nutty Nancy. They are bent on political suicide.

  11. Valor December 6, 2016 at 1:37 pm Reply

    News flash Joe! The Demorat Party IS the far left in this country. Has been for a long time.

    • reagangs December 6, 2016 at 2:34 pm Reply

      It all began with LBJ and his Great Society welfare programs, those that plague the country with $Ts even today. LBJ embraced the likes of old radical socialist and union thug, Saul Alinsky and his Rules for Radicals and radicals Cloward and Piven that wanted the welfare roles to be over used in order for the US economy to collapse so the commie NWO could take over. And today, we have to worry about another threat, old commie Georgie Soros and his UN and EU elite minions, drones and sheeple. Follow the money and Soros is at the top.

  12. Jim Smith December 6, 2016 at 1:44 pm Reply

    Come on Joe. I admire you but get to it. The Democrat Party of today has little relationship with the Democratic party of HST, JFK, LBJ, Carter etc. Socialism/Communism and rich, rich and powerful politicians dominate. Pelosi called for the passage of ACA unread and unevaluated trashing the Rule of Law.

  13. Texas Son December 6, 2016 at 1:56 pm Reply

    I doubt the Democrats will heed the warning from former Senator Lieberman. The Radical left has hijacked the party. It’s no longer the party of JFK.

    • Elizabeth Whitehouse December 7, 2016 at 1:50 am Reply

      Does it have to be? What is wrong with being the party of the 21st century?

  14. Mister B December 6, 2016 at 2:17 pm Reply

    Too late Joe! The Democrats went extreme left many years ago. If they were honest, they would call it what it is. The “Communist Party.”

    • Timothy Thompson December 7, 2016 at 12:27 am Reply

      I like A.S.P. – The American Socialist Party…

      • Mister B December 7, 2016 at 12:48 am Reply

        Fine, just don’t try to transform America. If you want to live in a socialist society ,there are many to choose from. Venezuela would be a good place to start.

        • WonderBoy2 December 10, 2016 at 1:20 pm Reply

          cuba

  15. jdbixii December 6, 2016 at 2:38 pm Reply

    That which is, and will always be, the unacceptable difference with regard to the left is their belief that law is a popular variable, personified in a person, representative by virtue of majority rule, ironically, despite, and because of, the special-interests of diverse minorities which comprise the majority. An election, while a part of the due process of law, has never been defined as a “court of law” in which the legality of a person or issue is decided. Indeed, we have a history, affirmed in the election of 2000, of deferring to the courts, notably, the Supreme Court, allowing judges whose unique consideration is to be the constitutionality of law, not the political advantage to be gained by the manipulation of it. In other words, the freedom of choice of the individual is NOT the primary consideration in an election, while its qualification is in a court of law, that is the propriety or correctness of choice with respect to the law.
    Most human activity is governed by rules, regulations and laws. With respect to elections, everyone knows, going into an election campaign, what the governing laws are. All know that party-convention delegates are required to vote, on the first ballot, or until released, for the candidate for whom the majority of citizen-constituents voted and that states’ citizen-constituents vote for electors in the national election to vote for the nominee for whom they have cast a vote. Where the left is incongruously devoid of reason is in regard to the purpose, benefit and cost and consequences of behavior which, as defined and regulated by law requiring obedience, are considered to be matters of “personal choice.” Yes, you can disobey the law, but not without consequences. You lost. But the more important thing to consider is WHY you lost and that, like it or not, is because you were wrong. If the law is, intrinsically, wrong, it is the personal right of those who made it, to be wrong. This is the logic which the left would would have us embrace and disavow, at the same time. You CAN have it both ways. The question which will always remain is, to what purpose? No one has denied anyone their right to kinky sex.

  16. Garys_opinion December 6, 2016 at 2:58 pm Reply

    ”

    Former Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman said in a radio interview this
    weekend that the Democrats need a leader who can keep the liberal wing
    of the party in check”
    Too late Joe, they’re already gone.

  17. DAlnB41 December 6, 2016 at 2:58 pm Reply

    Good old Lieberman; je is really out of touch; no one is in change in the Democratic party. Their alleged leaders have been exposed and have bailed out without arguing the evidence against them.
    Hillary and the democrats want us to believe she lost her race due to misdeeds by Trump[; in reality, it has been Hillary’s own reputation combined with the Democratic party leadership that lost her the election. Had the democratic party leaders not conspired and eventually forced Bernie Sanders out of the race the outcome of the elections may have been totally different; Hillary has ben a looser all her life, a popular one- but always a looser!
    The popular vote has little to do with the outcome as the electoral vote takes over just as the writers envisioned it may need to do. Hillary made the mistake thinking she could talk around her failures and indiscretions of the past, her lies, thievery, and failures, and dazzle enough uninformed voters to take her to a win; she failed to consider those Electoral voters who were informed and know her for what she is!
    Hillary can add loosing this election to her long and growing list of failures – but then she may not be able to suck her “living expenses” out of her donors; she may actually be forced into getting a real job and have to work for a living.! I don’t think even the Clinton foundation can afford the high cost it has been to the Tax Payers over the years to pay off her failures!

  18. nebelhorn December 6, 2016 at 5:15 pm Reply

    As a FORMER Moderate Democrat that is exactly why I voted for Donald Trump. Just as Ronald Reagan, Donald Trump got a good share of votes from Democrats. They called themselves “Trumpocrats”. The Democratic Party went to the left on January 20, 2009 when President Obama was inaugerated. We just didn’t know it yet.

  19. DAlnB41 December 6, 2016 at 5:23 pm Reply

    What is wrong with America; why is our nation going broke, why are taxes and fees constantly on the rise?

    Former DHS Secretary Napolitano Vows to Shield Illegal Alien Students

    Extracted from – http://www.fairus.org/publications

    University of
    California (UC) President Janet Napolitano, Obama’s first-term Department of Homeland Security Secretary, recently announced that she will shield illegal aliens within the 10 universities that comprise the UC system from federal immigration laws. (Fox News,
    Dec. 1, 2016) “While we still do not know what policies and practices the incoming federal administration may adopt, given the many public pronouncements made during the presidential campaign and its aftermath, we felt it necessary to reaffirm that [University of California] will act upon its deeply held conviction that all members of our community have the right to work, study, and live safely and without fear at all UC locations,” Napolitano said. (Id.)

    Napolitano’s policy for the UC system directly violates federal immigration law. Specifically, 8 U.S.C. § 1373 prohibits policies that impede cooperation between federal, state, and local officials when it comes to the sending, requesting, maintaining, or exchanging of information regarding immigration status. (8U.S.C. § 1373) Under that provision, any federal, state, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from the federal government,
    information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual. (Id.)
    Outrageously, Napolitano insists the enforcement of federal laws rests with federal enforcement agents and not with the UC police department (UCPD). (See Napolitano Statement, Nov. 30, 2016) She said not only will UCPD will not investigate, detain or arrest individuals for violation of federal immigration law it will not cooperate to detain illegal aliens even when requested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). (Id.)

    Napolitano’s policy directives as UC President undermining federal immigration law are unsurprising. As DHS Secretary, Napolitano refused to develop an official metric for measuring border security, clearly prioritizing efforts to put amnesty before the safety and security of the American people. (See FAIR Press Release) After the Obama administration announced the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) policy, Napolitano testified before Congress that her department began to execute the policy even before they developed the
    processes needed to implement it. (See FAIR Legislative Update, July 23, 2012)

    # # #

    A few years back a well known lady was sent to federal prison for a year after being found guilty of “insider Trading.” She was guilty and she paid the price! Early in the Obama Administration Janet Napolitano, as Obama’s Secretary of Homeland Security, took it upon herself to start a trend of ignoring federal laws as she felt they were inappropriate. Through her efforts the flood gates were opened allowing millions of illegal immigrants to come into this country! As Sec/DHS Napolitano took it upon herself to create havoc with ICE and the Border Patrol, made changes in administrative controls and ignored laws she did not like; America has suffered from her actions and will for a long time. Since the day Napolitano’s started her Obama Tap Dance on Ameriacn laws, Illegal immigrants have been allowed to come into our country almost at will and always with the protection of the Obama Administration. Her efforts, supported by Obama as her boss, has cost this country trillions of dollars and it continues to do so.

    What the lady who went to prison for insiader traind did was noting as to what Napolitano has and is doing! It is no wonder we are in the mess we are in – we all need to support Trump in “draining the swamp” of not only elcted officlas in Washington but also appointed members of governemetn and make our laws fair, equal and enforced! If Napolitano can not comply with fedral laws then she needs to be imroined!

  20. Al Connelly December 6, 2016 at 6:19 pm Reply

    It is sad to watch as this party has rapidly deteriorated into the party of liars, corruption, and following the communist manifesto. That nomination of Hillary and the political platform is Bernie exposed their true colors, freedom from constraints of constitution laws or the needs of American citizens.

  21. Tyronne Shoelaces December 6, 2016 at 7:06 pm Reply

    Joe, you’re too late. The communists have taken over your party long ago.

  22. Daze Inde December 6, 2016 at 9:19 pm Reply

    If Hillary is “center left,” I’d hate to see “left-left.”

  23. ONLYJB1 December 7, 2016 at 12:47 am Reply

    The “far left”? Call it what it really is. Democommies! Or let’s just say communist! They are why we find ourselves today where we are! Want to begin the healing process? Then root the communist out and send them packing!

  24. Silver Bullet December 7, 2016 at 12:54 am Reply

    Joe, Joe. you should know by now that Hillary is a big liar. You dont really know where she stands other than a liberal socilaist. She will say anything to get what she wants. Fortunately we wont have to find out where she really stands.

  25. chuckie2u December 7, 2016 at 1:03 am Reply

    I do recall attending a Young Democrats meeting in College prior to the murder of JFK where the leaders were bitching about the lefties. Since those wonderful days conservative Democrats became like hens teeth. The lefties ,Marxist , have now transformed the Democrats to a socialist party certainly way left of center. Short of an out and out communist dictatorship the Dems are certainly knocking at the door demanding one party rule.

    • Elizabeth Whitehouse December 7, 2016 at 1:49 am Reply

      Were there ever any conservative Democrats? It seems like an oxymoron.

      • Bill December 10, 2016 at 2:23 pm Reply

        JFK would have been a right winger based on today’s standards?

    • Bill December 10, 2016 at 2:21 pm Reply

      Chuckie2u, Amen! I use to be a Kennedy democrat, but when Johnson got the Great Society (welfare socialistic philosophy) implemented in the mid 1960’s it’s been down hill ever since. The welfare mentality must change and the only way to change is to create family wag jobs, smaller government and get rid of our present educational system. Our public educational system has become a bureaucratic monopoly, it’s time to put competition via a voucher system so parents and students can have a choice on quality of education. Welfare must change and must not be allowed to become a generational entitlement. Way to many college students are getting worthless degrees, huge debt and bring very few skills to the work place.
      The bureaucratic swamp needs draining starting with our city’s, county’s, state and federal government. This is a tall order and requires good Americans to demand and take our country back. The people finally elect someone who is a GOOD AMERICAN and wants to get our country heading in the right direction, restore the rule of law, abide by our constitution and look at the lazy vermin coming out protesting. The demoRATS and our country are in real trouble and it’s time for common sense to prevail in both party’s. The American Party! Our country has good people, we just need this divisiveness to stop.

  26. Osamao December 7, 2016 at 3:50 am Reply

    Too late Joe!

  27. don76550 December 7, 2016 at 5:13 am Reply

    The election also demonstrated that gun owners will vote to protect their gun rights.

  28. randy jackson December 8, 2016 at 12:46 pm Reply

    Hope the dumboRATS keep driving their bus in the same direction it’s been travelling. It will either break down in the middle of nowhere or end up in a bottomless canyon. In either event, people that use common sense and logic, hope the bus is completely full on this wayward journey. Like watching a crash derby, this will be fun to watch. The Dem’s are reaping what they have sewn!

  29. William Hutchinson December 8, 2016 at 2:48 pm Reply

    We don’t need the democrat party or the republican party. What we need in America is more AMERICANS fighting for our rights. It has started with this election the American Party.

  30. ONLYJB1 December 8, 2016 at 4:32 pm Reply

    Too late Joe! Your party sold their souls to the communist a long time ago! May I suggest keeping your distance from them? Don’t be a part of the democommie party! By the way. This isn’t FAKE news!

  31. Walter Flatt December 8, 2016 at 4:45 pm Reply

    LIEBERMAN, GOOGLE THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES 2015 AND LISTEN TO ALL OF IT. IF THIS IS THE BEST MY PARTY CAN COME UP WITH, IT IS DONE. IN FACT IT MAY NOT HAVE PENETRATED YET, BUT WE HAVE A NEW PARTY. THE AMERICAN PARTY AND WE INTEND TO KEEP IT. I AM A REG. DEMOCRAT.

    MASONS IT IS TIME WE QUIT PLAY ACTING AND START WORKING TO SAVE THIS COUNTRY, LIKE WE DID THE FIRST 60 YEARS. BEFORE MUSLIMS TAKE US OVER AND STOP US HERE.

    WE HAD 14 PRESIDENTS AND 18 VICE PRESIDENTS, WE DESIGNED WASHINGTON, DC. BUT BECAUSE OF A PLAN BY JOHNSON TO TAKE AWAY OUR TAX EXAMPTION WE ARE NOT ACTIVE IN POLITICS.

    TRUMP SAID HE WOULD DO AWAY WITH THE ABOVE LAW.

    FROM A KOREAN WAR VET, 1951/53,TO ALL BROTHER MASONS, I AM A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT, A CHRISTIAN AND A 50 + MEMBER OF THE MASONIC LODGE.

    I VOTED FOR TRUMP. IF YOU GOOGLE THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES 2015, YOU WILL KNOW WHY.

    A LAW WAS PASSED IN 1952 BANNING ALL MUSLIMS FROM THIS COUNTRY. PERHAPS IT SHOULD BE ENFORCED.

    PRAY FOR PRESIDENT ELECT TRUMP EVERY DAY. HE WILL NEED US TO OVERCOME THE EVEL OF THIS WORLD.

    GEORGE WASHINGTON DID NOT SIT ON HIS BUTT AND LET THIS COUNTRY DOWN. WHO SAYS WE CANNOT DISCUSS POLITICS IN OUR LODGE? SOMEBODY HAD BETTER STAND UP.

    GRAND LODGE IN WASHINGTON, AND GRAND LODGES IN EACH STATE HAD BETTER WAKE UP OR WE WILL LOSE ALL PRIVELAGES IF THERE IS A MUSLIM TAKE OVER.

    NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL TAX EXAMPT ENTIES, SUCH AS THE MASONS, KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS AND ALL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET, GET FACTS ABOUT PEOPLE RUNNING AND ADVISE THEIR PEOPLE THE TRUE STORY SO THAT THEY CAN VOTE FOR THE BEST.

    THIS IS WHAT MILLIONS AMISH PEOPLE DID. 30 LEADERS MEET IN OHIO WITH 3 MILLION AND VOTED THAT ALL WOULD VOTE FOR TRUMP. THERE COULD BE 20 MILLION AMISH IN THIS COUNTRY.

    THIS IS WHAT GAVE HIM OH, PA, MICH, FLA, HELPED IN IND AND NEARLY GAVE HIM VA.

    FOLKS IF YOU DO NOT THINK GOD WAS INVOLVED IN THIS ELECTION, I SUGGEST YOU THINK AGAIN.

    I BELIEVE WE HAVE BEEN SET UP BY HILLARY, OBAMA, KERRY, SOROS, AND THE BIASED MEDIA AT A TRY FOR A MUSLIM TAKEOVER, IF NOT, WHY ARE THERE A MINIMUM OF 37 MUSLIMS CAMPS IN THE USA, (5 IN N. VA. CLOSE TO DC) AND A FEMA CAMP IN EVERY STATE, TRY AND BUY UP ALL AMMO, TAKE OUR GUNS, BRING IN THOUSANDS OF YOU MUSLIMS. GET READY FOLK. PUT PIG GREASE ON YOUR BULLETS.

    OH, I HAVE KEEP RECORDS OF ALL THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED THE LAST 8 YEARS AND HAVE FACTS AND FIGURES IF ANY OF YOU PEOPLE DOUBT ME.

    SHARE, SHARE, SHARE THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

  32. Motorhead December 8, 2016 at 9:29 pm Reply

    Black Americans are now aware of the fact that it is the Democrats that are running the Plantation. They take the minority votes for granted. They are waking up to the fact that Democrats want to control their way of thinking by giving handouts and have black Americans dependant on social programs. Black Americans are like white Americans…they want good jobs “NOT” welfare. Trump …we want good jobs.. all America does! 82nd Airborne

  33. Danny Reagan December 8, 2016 at 11:09 pm Reply

    Lieberman, thats very good advice, a lot of blue dog democrats went with Trump this year, anyone running left of center will get clobbered. The democrats can’t afford to lose any more seats.

  34. Joy G December 9, 2016 at 2:22 am Reply

    I don’t think the democrats will ever come back to the middle. They have gone full blown socialistic. These dems hate the conservatives. If they don’t get their agenda way, we the conservatives are the devil. Well, the so called righteous crucified Christ because they looked at him as a devil. The conservatives will win out no matter what. They have Christ on their side.

  35. fred russo December 9, 2016 at 3:30 am Reply

    For the life of me i will never understand how an intelligent man like Lieberman ever became associated with this NUTCAKE party?

  36. joe katona December 9, 2016 at 7:21 pm Reply

    YEA WHITEHOUSE IM VOLUNTEERING !! U WILL LOVE IT..

  37. WonderBoy2 December 10, 2016 at 1:19 pm Reply

    Back in 1954, Sen McCarthy was trying to warn us about the far left [communist] demonRat Party, as we can see now, he was 100% right. Just look at hollywood!

  38. Richard Daugherty December 11, 2016 at 12:31 am Reply

    These people are made up of Muslims and communists.

  39. Gary Von Neida December 11, 2016 at 3:18 am Reply

    AWAKE!!! The Far Left Progressives have OWNED YOU for over Twenty Years. Well over 20—–

  40. george briar December 12, 2016 at 4:08 pm Reply

    Vote out all the democrats where and when ever they run they will never get it. They are a semblance of the Whig party from years ago that soon were voted out of existence because of their ignorance and stupidity. The republicans have a chance to stay in power for many years if they get it right and I as an independent that used to be a democrat believe they will as they already know the consequences. Good luck President Trump wishing you huge success.

  41. American December 12, 2016 at 6:10 pm Reply

    To late the communist globalist took over the Democrats over thirty years ago, and it has only gotten worse sense then, they have become fascists who want to tear our country down. They put globalist communist in our schools and we can now see the product of that. Whining crybabies who worship thugs and killers and hate our country.

  42. VanceJ December 12, 2016 at 6:51 pm Reply

    LOL, A bit late don’t you think ?

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