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Media Strangely Silent on the Other Grieving Parent
Posted On 02 Aug 2016
Khizr Khan has become a household name over the last week. The Muslim Gold Star father spoke out against Donald Trump at the Democratic National Convention, bringing news anchors to tears and drawing the Republican nominee into an unwise confrontation that could have disastrous effects on his poll numbers as the general election begins in earnest. Khan’s speech received so much coverage that it boosted sales of pocket-sized copies of the Constitution, one of which the Muslim used as a prop on stage when asking if Trump had ever read the document.
Contrast that with Patricia Smith, whose son Sean was killed in the attack on the U.S. embassy in Benghazi. Smith, speaking at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, said, “For all of this loss, for all of this grief, for all of the cynicism the tragedy in Benghazi has wrought upon America, I blame Hillary Clinton. I blame Hillary Clinton personally for the death of my son.”
Now Clinton, to her “credit,” avoided getting into a public feud with a grieving mother. Trump would have done well to follow her example.
But putting that aside, the media’s coverage of these two parents has been astoundingly unbalanced. According to Newsbusters, the big three networks gave the Khans 50 TIMES as much coverage as they gave Patricia Smith in the days after their respective speeches.
“In the days (July 19 to August 1) that followed Smith’s indictment of Clinton from the RNC podium, CBS (3 seconds) ABC (13 seconds) and NBC (54 seconds) gave her speech a total of just 70 seconds of coverage,” writes the media watchdog site. “In the four days (July 29 to August 1) following Khizr Khan and his wife Ghazala’s speech NBC (31 minutes, 39 seconds) offered the most amount of time followed by ABC (14 minutes, 21 seconds) and then CBS (9 minutes, 13 seconds).
This kind of media bias has a substantial impact on the tenor of the election, to say the least. And it’s already reflected in the polls; Trump has lost considerable ground in the days since Clinton accepted the nomination, thanks in no small part to the endless glorification of Khan’s speech and the endless criticism of Trump’s response.
You haven’t noticed Hillary going after the grieving Benghazi mother for her RNC speech. Have you?
If I had to write one political rule, it would be “don’t attack people in grief”. Sympathy is the only reasonable, morale response. Those of us who have been through it know that anger is one of the inescapable stages of grief, but that takes empathy.
Clinton response to Benghazi grieving family.
CLINTON: “Chris Wallace, my heart goes out to both of them. Losing a child under any circumstances, especially in this case, two State Department employees, extraordinary men, both of them, two CIA contractors gave their lives protecting our countries, our values. I understand the grief and the incredible sense of loss that can motivate that.”
As for Trump who is thin-skinned always goes on the attack. Where is his empathy toward parents who have made the ultimate sacrifice for America.
He needs to apologize!
No.. Hillary does. Khan is bogus. His son was killed twelve years ago, and Mr. Trump did not say ban them… he did say a very careful background check on all the Muslims coming her from the war torn countries. A VERY smart thing to do.
What is NOT bogus is that Khan DID lose a child in patriotic service to our country. The “sins” of the father should not reflect on his son.
Your response is just the usual from Trump followers that excuse everything and anything negative he does.. Be honest, you know Hillary won’t get into it with the Benghazi mother because it would stir up a can of worms considering all her alleged callous, erroneous actions in Benghazi, and her initial response and denial of what she said to the parents of her victims. That is a smart political move.
Trump OTOH, doesn’t know when to shut up. He has to comment, and with an unnecessary acid tongue, on subjects and people, that he should know to keep quiet about, that have nothing to do with the campaign. I don’t need to list them. I’m sure you know, there are so many.
The baby incident alone…. And he’s a father? What a jerk… I saw it, and I could not believe his nasty attitude. GROSS…
It is getting to the point that his mouth is really getting even apoligists worried, and some are jumping ship. I mean, WHAT is considered enough?
I’m a realist and neutral, so I see both sides in a more accurate, not biased light. They both, if I am truthful, should be smacked upside the head.
Again you don’t understand debating nor the art of the deal. Trump says exactly what we want said. You namby pambies haven’t a clue and that is why America is on the brink. We now have a candidate with all the skills and acumen to get back our America. You don’t understand anything and spout a lot of ill-informed stupidity. By the way, if you watched the whole thing as I did and it was on a cellphone video, the baby was crying and Trump said he loved babies (which is obvious because look at his fine family), and eventually the woman took the baby out of the room (he did not remove her at all, thank you) and returned with the baby’s mouth “sucker”. Any attendee there will back up all this. Obviously, you prefer believing the MSM and that is why America is at a crossroads of being lost to communism and you are too ignorant to do research to verify! A realist? Doesn’t sound like it. I have lived and worked outside the US and I know what realism is – how to survive in spite of people like you. Neutral? Doesn’t sound like it. Go back to the basement or get informed!
No, Hilary’s response to the men killed in Benghazi “at this point, what difference does it make”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trump has nothing to apologize for. He’s not the one who ignored their calls for help (600 emails). She said she never told the families that the attack was caused by a video (another lie) Mrs. Smith said she did and Hillary said Mrs. Smith just didn’t remember what she told them. Why should Trump apologize for something Hillary was responsible for?
He shouldn’t and he doesn’t and he says it because he is our VOICE and we want and wanted to say these many things and now, how glorious, to hear them said loudly and repeatedly for the deaf and dumbed down citizens!
He may be your voice, but he is certainly not MY voice. I hope you realize that saying something- anything- loudly and repeatedly does not necessarily make it true.
It seems to me that it is only the “deaf and dumbed down citizens” who are listening.
Trump has done more for vets and military than anyone of the Clintons or the DNC and our RINOS! Stop with the blathering and get a grip or face living under communism if Shillary gets the WH with all the voter fraud they want in spite of the fact everyone has IDs and some with photos, or can go to the DMC and get a photo idea, as my mother, a non-driver, did. Trump is not thin-skinned but a skillful man leading the other side to put up or shut up and so far the other side has not done either. Have you ever heard the DNC or the Clintons honoring and taking care of our vets and military? No, the worked to reduce their wages, increase their healthcare costs, etc., etc. Obviously, you are for Shillary and you won’t like the life after if she gets in the WH. When you are a good debater, as I was, you do throw out what you consider “attacks” to get to the nub of their argument so they lose. Get a life, read about real things and vote for America.
Bull$hit! Kahn went on the attack, Trump just answered Kahn’s attack!
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4 hours ago
It’s unfortunate that the Khan’s son was killed. But let’s set the
record straight – he was killed more than 12 years ago (June 4, 2004).
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We sort of got played for chumps by the Democrats.
But there is more…
The Elder Khan has a job as a lawyer getting the law straight with immigrants he supports. His own words.. this whole country should be ruled by Shari Law. He is actually interested in transporting all of Afghanistan and Pakistan to the United States. He feels we don’t deserve this country. He wound up a resident without ANY history of this country at all, and the Democrats are using him to forward their case.
Look at how the media is so biased against Trump. Mrs Smith’s son was killed in Benghazi. He was in the military just like Khan’s son. Hillary said Mrs. Smith lied when she said she told the families of the people killed that it was because of a video She said Mrs. Smith didn’t remember what she said. Trump said Mrs. Khan never said anything, maybe she was not allowed to. The media said Hillary criticized Mrs. Smith. They said Trump attacked Mrs. Khan. Just goes to show you how biased they are against Trump. If someone said I lied about something I would feel like I was being attacked.
“the media is so biased against Trump” Are you kidding? Without the media, Trump’s candidacy would have folded a year ago. But every time he has opened his mouth the media has jumped in and, not only told the world everything he said, but then gone on to analyze his words in excruciating detail.
It would be fine if they reported things the way they are instead of making up stuff to try to make Trump look bad. Just now they were saying the soldier that gave Trump his purple heart gave him a copy. It was not the real one. Fox just had the soldier on and he said it was not a copy, it was the real one. Want to bet the media will shut up about it/ No way, They will be bringing it up day after day until they find something else to harp on.
It is quite possible that the Democrats have made stuff up to make Trump look bad. But from an objective point of view, he has largely made such political shenanigans unnecessary.
Nice post!
Somehow I felt there must be more to the story, thanks for the info. Now lets throw his sharia loving ass out of here,there is no place for sharia law in this country.
Which is why ALL muslims and other invaders MUST BE REMOVED from our soil to protect our America and ourselves. Trump gave a little on this, but we will push for it to be done. They are not normal after 1400 years of must marry a first cousin so brains are wired differently, and we do not need to take care of other countries people who don’t give a darn about America, just the freebies, etc. Yep, we have a big job ahead of us, but please vote for America and Trump. UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL and we must move NOW to remove those we have elected and are going to vote for Hillary from Congress and local legislatures with NO perks or benefits of any kind, because we are their employers and we did NOT okay any bonuses, lifetime salaries, increases in those salaries, free college for their offspring, insurance, etc. Time to save money and use it to reduce the debt and deficits they have allowed and even voted to have and increase! We have been saps and forgotten We, the People ARE the Government per our Constitution and time now to think about the right to overthrow a rogue government and clean house. By the way, even our Founding Fathers had to fight off muslim pirates! and many wrote/stated about how dangerous they are and we want to allow them to be here? That is ludicrous!
It has also come out that the son had an argument with his parents so obviously was not a real muslim! I honor the son, but the parents are living on what they want as a memory because they are Clintons’ people and owned by them. Sickening! Well, unfortunately, most democrats sell their souls for money, control, and lying, cheating, you name it. They are deathly (and probably will be brought to die for betraying America) afraid of Trump winning and will do anything and everything to block him, and that includes the RINOS we have elected, i.e., Ryan, McConnell, etc., etc., and for the democrats Pelosi, Schumer, Reid, ad nauseum.
And part of the Sharia Law is honor killings, death sentences for adultery and prostitution and homosexuality, female genital mutilation, underage arranged marriages and the beating of wives by Muslim men. This is the sort that Hilary parties with. Clinton had to go back 12 years to find something to harass Trump with. And don’t forget she voted for the war. She had a huge part in the son’s death. State after state is now passing a bill to outlaw “Foreign Law” from taking over our country.
‘transporting all of Afghanistan and Pakistan to the United States’ And what are his plans for those countries once their entire population has been removed? How does he plan to arrange the transfer of close to 160 million people half way around the world? Does he have Hillary’s support for this ambitious venture?
After doing a little research, I found that according to Mr, Khan’s own words, “the SHARIA should overrule the Constitution”. His words 1989, published. I can sympathize with his loss, but he really needs to think about how it looks when he has been working for/with the Clinton’s campaigns, taxes, etc for YEARS. He is NOT the only parent who lost a child in Iraq. HILLARY CLINTON VOTED FOR THE IRAQ WAR. She may deny it now, but it is a matter of public record. Of course there are a lot of things about Hillary that are a matter of PUBLIC RECORD, but the LIBERAL/LYING MEDIA covers for her and won’t show anything that might make her look honest. That is one of the many words about Hillary, that DO NOT FIT. She isn’t honest, she lies and lies and has caused multiple DEATHS of American citizens. She commented recently, that “WE NEVER LOST ANYONE IN LIBYA”. What does she consider the 4 AMERICANS IN BENGHAZI? GOD HELP OUR COUNTRY IF SHE GETS ELECTED.
Come on people, wise up, it was a dog and pony show. Unfortunately nobody asked him if he had a copy of Sharia in his other pocket.
Sharia is too big and evil to fit in his pocket !!!
Actually, you are right. The REAL Qu’Ran, not the redacted version they hand out gratuitously, is larger but has to be to contain all the horrors they want to bring on us and America or any other freedom loving people. Every muslim has to read their Qu’Ran and that means they must do what it says because the founder Mohamed and his cult of followers said they must and if they want out, they will be killed. This points out clearly this is NOT a religion but a murdering cult proven almost every day with how they suffer from mental illness of bloodlust and different ways to kill others.
Actually, ALL religions have those similar WRITTEN ORDERS to MURDER everyone !!!
Agreed. But only the Koran is still, in 2016, being used as an active excuse for physically pursuing the killing of non-believers with the aim of establishing one- religion supremacy.
Not true… Christian Religious Terrorists DAILY shoot up schools, theaters, clinics, ‘wrong’ churches and blow up buildings in the USA and other places…
That might happen, but the Biggest BIBLE does not condone it.
99% of DAILY Religious Terrorism in the USA is Christian Religious Terrorism !!! :
Footnoted small sample of Judeo/Christian Religious Terrorism WRITTEN ORDERS for Murdering of innocent people:
Psalm 144:1.
“Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.”
Mathew10:34 Jesus: “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn…
“a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law…”
Jesus, who wanted to be King of the Jews, said: “But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and KILL them in front of me.” (Luke 19:27)
Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be STONED TO DEATH by the community. (Leviticus 24:14-16)
Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be PUT TO DEATH. (Deuteronomy 13:5)
If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, KILL them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)
If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and KILL ALL of it’s inhabitants… even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)
KILL anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)
KILL all men, women, children, and, even, babies already of the 20 nations/50 belief systems/religions of the Promised Land when moving into it. (Deuteronomy)
Imaginary Jesus of gospel stories said his followers must obey the Torah/Old Testament (N.T. not invented yet) (Jesus invented ~150 A.D.)
More of the ignorant fart sniffing, butt kissing troll spew of lies and idiocy as usual.
Those last two references (Leviticus, Deuteronomy) are “Old Testament” and therefore not truly “Christian.”
C’mon, fools, stop the mud slinging, and realize that you are all creations of the same creator, whether you choose to call him God or what ever name suits your imagination. He won’t mind, I’m sure, just as long as you learn to respect all of his creations. (Not meaning no disrespect, Ma’am, it is just the correct form of the impersonal pronoun).
It is MAN which has put all the “killing” into the belief system. And then he has the audacity to claim his “Good” book is God’s word – Jesus Christ, how idiotic can a person be? These religions were concocted as control mechanisms and the books written to command the believer into submission. It isn’t God’s fault, but the fault of the power hungry and avaricious in control, as well as the fools who follow. (God and I have discussed it many times – don’t believe me? Why not? It isn’t any more or less believable than is any of the “good book,”FCS).
Man considers murder wrong… until religions say it is OK, even desirable and required by imaginary God…
If indeed there is any independent thinking going on between those ears of yours, Buzz, have you ever got a surprise in store for you. Nothing imaginary about God, just those who wish to, unimagine Him. Evidence of His truth is everywhere! Cannot you see it?
There’s about 10,000 evil imaginary God(s) on this planet that religics worship and murder for… which one(s) are yours?
I can’t answer for Buzz, but I sure can’t see it.
Then why did Christ command his believers to read His Word?
Are you absolutely sure that he did? And which Word are we supposed to read. As I mentioned elsewhere, the four Gospels present that Word rather differently. And those are only the gospels that the Catholic church decided to adopt. There are others with equally diverse variations on the Word.
The old testament is N/A at all for today other than historical info. The passage in Luke is a parable and that in Matthew the text is allegorical intending to show that God is almighty and should be placed above all others. The Quran and Haditha are like night and day compared to the bible. Nowhere in the New Testament does it say that all those who are infidels shall be converted or put to death by the sword.
In other words, your interpretation of a mishmash of writings is right, and that of the Jews and the Muslims is wrong?
Well of course it is. Isn’t it obvious? (Chuckling quietly) If we wish to believe our religions to be correct, then so be it, but just lift a finger to tell me mine is wrong, and that I must die as a result, and you had better be damned quick or those imaginary virgins will have nothing to do with you – missing the key assemblage.,
Sorry, Elizabeth, not intended for you.
Thanks for making the mistake. I enjoy your comments. And agree with them.
Nice try, buzz, but taking the bible OUT OF CONTEXT doesn’t prove jack!!
For starters: Psalms 144:1 – Blessed be the Lord my STRENGTH, which TEACHETH my hands TO war, and my fingers TO fight.
To be brief here, instead of taking a passage out of context, try putting that passage into context with what the bible is trying to convey. Instead of taking Mathew 10:34 and throwing it out there, how about you take Mathew 10:16-42 which is trying to convey the fact that God, the Almighty Father, always comes first before any man, woman or child. It would have been wiser to have quoted Mathew 10:28 which states “and fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” Or Mathew 10:31-33 “Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows. Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him I will confess also before My Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.” Mathew 10:34 “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.”
That sword is not a physical sword as we know it, it is a sword to separate believers from none believers. As Mathew 10:38-40 reveals, “And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after Me, is not worthy of Me. He that findeth his life shall lose it, and he that loseth his life for My sake shall find it. He that receiveth you receiveth Me, and he that receiveth Me receiveth Him who has sent Me.”
So you see Buzz, this is just one of your passages that clearly needs to be rebutted. It’s really easy to take things out of context, but as I told your consort, Elizabeth, you really do need to go back to school and learn how to comprehend what you have read.
I don’t have the time to rebut your lack of knowledge and understanding on your misrepresenting the context of the bible, but just know that you are on the very wrong side of this smearing and distorting of God’s Word and you will definitely be held accountable for your actions come Judgment Day.
I’m having another of these comprehension crises. How is it that if Buzz quotes the Bible, he is taking things out of context, but if you quote a similarly short passage, from the same book, you are suddenly proving that he is wrong?
I also do not understand how you decide which of the four gospels is the true word of god. They contradict each other so often that they can hardly all be right about everything.
Are you that dense, Elizabeth? Reread what I just wrote as you cannot take just one sentence and make a valued judgement on its meaning. That SWORD that buzz mentioned, I too mentioned it and put it into the correct context. That SWORD was not a physical sword, but a deciphering sword to separate the believer from the non-believer like you two. Each and everyone of buzz’s quotes from the Bible were taken out of context. I only had time to rebut just one. So go back and COMPREHEND what I just responded to, put your thinking cap on, and just pretend you understand, ok?
And then there are all those rejected gospels on Constantine’s floor. What ARE we to believe? That a Roman Emperor, trying to bring a group of religions together under a new one his scribes and priests created, and put together selected writings as proof (?) – not likely.
You wasted your time spewing all that BS… just read the WORDS !!!
Buzz! In short, you’re badly mistaken.
Prove it.
Typical liberal response……YOU prove it! Actions speak louder than words with respect to the Clintons and their history of deceit and lies.
If mine is a typically liberal response, yours is typical of those who are spouting the propaganda they have been fed, and not taken the trouble to verify any of the so-called facts. I will, whenever asked, supply the sources behind my opinions; you rely on hearsay.
WTF you or any other retard socialist know about facts? You always get confused with facts. STFU.
My, aren’t you charming. Could you point out where I have been confused with facts? Can you set me straight? That is, are you able to provide even a smidgen of evidence to support your ‘facts’ over mine?
See the troll and fart sniffer OFFERS NO FACTS but wants to challenge YOU to show facts to disprove their lies and BULLSHYTE.
Pam. What facts have you offered? It is possible that I have missed them. In that case I apologize and humbly ask that you share them again.
As I have told you twice, you need to go back to school and learn to comprehend what you read. How about YOU go back and read Buzz’s asinine comment for yourself.
Careful Franie, public schools are not what they used to be anymore.
Oops! You’re right. Elizabeth and Buzz do portray that indoctorinated frame of mind now, don’t they.
Indoctrinated by whom?
Which one of Buzz’s asinine comments are you referring to? He rather shoots himself in the foot by claiming ALL religions ALL the time. And one or two of his thoughts on addictions (especially homosexuality) are a bit nutty.
But he is absolutely right that all religions have at one time or another encouraged their followers to kill non-believers. And the list of those who have killed in the name of their religion is long and bloody. That includes Christians. Ever heard of the Inquisition?
Oh, you mean defending the faith from the hoarding Muslim animals out to kill them?
The Inquisition did not concern itself with Muslims; that was strictly Christian heretics. That was the Crusades, a Christian led offensive against Muslims.
Strangely, I can almost hear Muslim voices saying the same thing about defending the faith.
How much better off we would be if there were no faiths.
HEIL HITLARY! Heil Hitlary! Heil Hitlary! I feel ya lizzy! You n your jackbooted leftist thugs are remnants from a Reichstag moment. Remember lizzy..socialism and gun control killed 200 million of their own citizens in the last 100 years. More than all disease combined.
Oh, dear. Do I really have to walk you through the events of the 20th century. Hitler was not a socialist (nor is Hillary). Pol Pot was not a socialist. The Turkish government responsible for the Armenian genocide was not socialist. Stalin and Mao were communists. I don’t know what other nasty regimes you are using to get to the figure of 200 million.
National socialist party of Germany. Nazi for short.
I do know what Nazi stands for. But considering the Nazis to be socialists is as ridiculous as considering the Democratic Republic of (North) Korea or the Democratic Republic of Congo as democracies.
It is a bit of a stretch to claim that the progressive manifesto is based on Stalin’s playbook, regardless of how many intermediaries there have been.
Betty Whitehouse, you’re beginning to bore me with your religious fetish. We have the picture. We know you are a lost soul. I can’t speak for others, but I do not care if you rot in hell for eternity or if you have a change of heart and become a nun! Just show us where you got your “information” such as it is.
Do you mean my information about the Inquisition? I can refer you to the Wikipedia entry and its scores of references. This is hardly new or controversial. The same goes for the Crusades. There are literally hundreds of books on the subject.
And, Bonaventure Davis, I would like to point our that i do not have a religious fetish. I abhor ALL religions equally. But I am not a lost soul, as there is not one shred of evidence that any part of us survives after death. Most people would call me an atheist, but I do not like the term as it implies there is a god not to believe in. There is not.
God is a man made construct, the only possible explanation for some 4000 creation myths, 270 large religious groups and 34,000 Christian subsets. (http://www.wordofhisgrace.org/religions.htm)
Liberal a holes all do that. They will stand up and challenge, but won’t back up a da^m thing. Elizabeth and Buzz are liberal a holes, out to besmirch Christians and what they stand for.
Are you saying that Christians kill? You’re an out and out idiot if you think what buzz said is true. You are a mind numbed robot of the worst kind if you think that is true.
They all are! Blind followers She is like David Koresh leading them to their doom. Once she has sold us all out she will be shot like every other traitor in history. She really thinks she will be able to out smart them, but in the end she will die like the rest of us.
Yes. I am saying that Christians kill.
Nice of you to paint all Christians with a broad stroke, but how about deciphering the mentally ill, the sickos, from the rest of Christianity? Christianity does not kill for the sport of it, nor to demand people adhere to its tenets. Shame on you.
I think you mean distinguishing rather than deciphering, but no matter.
You seem to have overlooked the fact that it was your question ‘do Christians kill?’ that I was answering. If you had asked whether guns or cars kill, I would have answered exactly the same way. Not one of those statements even begins to imply that all Christians/guns/cars kill, only that it happens.
‘demand people adhere to its tenets’. You might want to read up on the Catholic/Protestant conflict in Northern Ireland, or the genocide in the Balkans, just to name two examples.
How old are you 15 years old???
No, almost 69. Not that my age has any relevance.
Then the question begs in how you were educated, if you were educated.
I have already given my educational credentials. At least my schooling. I didn’t mention my two degrees.
YOU have supplied us with FACTS?? Surely you jest. Come on now, no shading the truth here is allowed.
Yes, I have. You asked for an example of one Christian terrorist and I told you Timothy McVeigh. But you will not accept that. In fact, you do not accept anything that is contrary to your pre-conceived ideas.
No shading the truth? I begin to think that you are taking the mickey, because you can’t possibly be serious.
Caution: The meaning of the word “smidgen” has been hijacked by 0bama. As in “not even a smidgen of corruption” — alternatively defined as “whopping steaming pile”.
MORE blah blah blah idiocy from the usual fart sniffing troll and Obama butt kisser. GO wash your face, the Brown stain around your lips is showing.
I am quite prepared to to accept that some may feel my comments are idiocy. But only if the commenter can provide something more than fairly disgusting word abuse.
In all the time that I have been interacting with you (why do I do it???) I have yet to hear one single idea.
You must be a muslim lover. Ahole.
And how do you arrive at that conclusion?
Some feel your ‘comments are idiocy’? Lady, you go way past ‘idiocy’. What comes to mind are words like stupid, moronic, imbecilic, asinine, absurd, witless, troll, liberal (mentally diseased), etc. Remember that word COMPREHEND? It’s that something yo mamma failed to teach you.
You fool!! How about you PROVING what Buzz said above. You some kind of troll on this site? Take your liberal garbage and leave. Better yet, get back to school and learn to comprehend the written word.
You don’t have to be a deluded psychotic religic to be a Republican !!!
But it helps!
Must be a recent public school graduate!! Your stupidity is hanging right out there.
Sorry. I went to a rather exclusive all girls school where those who lacked the necessary intellectual capacity were politely asked to leave. I graduated top of my class – in 1964.
But you do have a point. It is possible for kids to graduate from public schools with very little in the way of an education, and very few thinking skills.
My, my, and to think you have the cajones to seriously fool us all. Your “rather exclusive all girls school” definitely did you a grave disservice in the COMPREHENSION department, and you even, by your own words, admitted that too.
Ok. Finally you have got me. I am definitely lacking in the comprehension department. Where did I admit that my school did me a disservice?
Yes and I can tell just how exclusive it was by your posts. Myself I would not call it that.
Well, fair enough. But what would you call it?
The Clintons have had a very long career of making lots of money and have been very smart about how to use it. They have bought the finest judges, police, investigators and government officials that money can buy. They brag about not being indicted. They are more criminal than Bonny & Clide. If you want me to prove it, I can come up with pages of links to all kinds of information. Just include your email address and I will comply
ew@abetterway.world I look forward to hearing from you.
All you have to do is google Clinton Scandals and you will see a list of all the things she has been involved in. You will not see the newest one anywhere but on weakyleaks. She allowed Benghazi to happen because they were about to expose the fact that she was selling arms to ISISS.
I did Google Clinton scandals and settled on this: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/tracking-the-clinton-controversies-from-whitewater-to-benghazi/396182/ as an impartial assessment. It does not include any reference to selling arms to ISIS. Apparently you have sources of information that are unavailable to The Atlantic.
Go ahead Elizabeth. “Supply the sources behind” your “opinions”. We wouldn’t want you to rely on hearsay now, dear.
Would you listen? Give me one of my ‘opinions’ that you question and I will give you more sources than you can handle.
We are waiting, Elizabeth. We’re all ears and eyes. We’ll absorb all the facts you present just like a Bounty paper towel. Now don”t disappoint.
I’m going to need a little help here if I am not to disappoint. Where would you like me to start?
If you can not do a little basic research and you choose to drink the Kool-Aid there is nothing the rest of us can do for you, You will end up committing suicide like the 42 others connected to Hillary and Bill. Have a nice short life Idiot!
While it is hard to keep track of who said what, I had the distinct impression that you and Don Hagan were on the same side.
Wow! There’s that lack of COMPREHENSION kicking in again!!
I’m having trouble cutting and pasting, but if you click on each name you can see the history of their remarks. They have both commented within the past few hours that the Clintons are liars and worse. If they disagree, I have missed it.
Clintons are thieves first. Murderers of key witnesses second. Tyrannical mobsters in quest of power. Making John gotti look like a choir boy..
So you say. Why is it that they have never been indicted – for anything? Sure, Bill was impeached (for lying about a set-up affair) but he was exonerated. Where is your proof?
No one said they were stupid, Impeccable, just morally corrupt, pathological liars, frauds, probably homicidal “assistants”, lie about their daughters true pedigree [see Webster Hubble], use about 10 % of Clinton Foundation earnings to “help” victims like the Haitians after the earthquake, etc. etc. etc. The other 90%? Well, what do you think they do with it? Huuummmmmmmm? Let’s put our faith in Julian Assange and see what else he comes up with on these e-mails.
I put alot of faith in those e-mails. But we have Lynch on their side. We have no rule of law. We must remove Obama and Lynch and put in a real attorney general. Most of our reps are stupid and crooked.
Both of assange attorneys died mysteriously unnattended since June 22 2016
He was not exhonerated. He was proven guilty and lied to us all.
“He was proven guilty…”
You are right, But the word is “exonerated” and EW at least spelled it right. Credit where credit is due.
Thanks NotJim!
And the corrupt media is on their side. Hillary should have been in prison long ago. Now Obama must be arrested for his secret money to the Muslims.
You are making quite serious allegations/accusations here. Do you have any evidence that might stand up in a court of law? Or is it all just hearsay? Judgement by internet instead of by one’s peers?
If you want to convince me, please provide a list of these 50 ‘key witnesses’ who dropped dead.
So enlightened one…run the numbers …youre actually more likely to win this weeks power ball than have 10 incriminating witnesses close to you drop dead…odds are you will win the following weeks also before you have 50 drop dead.. Lists are widely published. Why don’t you get the Pulitzer n publish before Hitlary inflicts the HILLACAUST upon us all.
Obviously I am not looking in the right places. The only lists I have seen have explained all these ‘suspicious’ deaths in ways that are a lot more rational than the idea that Bill and Hillary Clinton managed to have some 50 people bumped off without attracting any attention from law enforcement.
I only remember the details of one: a former intern whose name began with M, who worked at a Starbucks in DC. She and two others were killed during a botched robbery, shortly before another intern whose name began with M was due to testify against Bill Clinton. Quite a coincidence to be sure. But unless the well-oiled Clinton killing machine just got that one terribly wrong, a coincidence is what it was. Because Monica Lewinsky did testify, and is still alive.
What do ALL those people have in common? Plus poor reporter Webb in Kill the Messenger” movie. He found the origin of all the planes landing in Mena Arkansas…like him.. Each of the 85 had serious dirt on Hillary.
So you say. Give me one or two sources for your allegations and I promise you I will look at them very carefully.
Lizzy “what difference does it make”?! 50 key witnesses are dead and you’re figuring out reasons to rejoice that the perp walked. She likely sold seal team6 sortie detail for cash to Clinton foundation 5years ago today. But you don’t care. Just you’re happy she got away with it ..maybe email will surface that sends her to jail where she belongs.
I never rejoice if a perp walks free, but I do think that these things should be decided in a court of law. You and I do not know enough to be able to decide her guilt, or innocence.
The odds are academic…detective 101 class. No one disputes the knowledge each had on the Clintons.. Therefore the inverse is true. Hundred million to one…ie sure as the Sun will rise tomorrow They had a hand in at least 5 …
And you could prove that in a court of law?
99pct probability is a slam dunk prosecution…Probability of her involvement is 99.999999936… About the same odds as the Sun rising tomorrow..
You are making an allegation. That is not proof.
Statistical certainty.
Now I realize you are just trying to be funny. Ha, ha.
Dfob and dfoh aren’t laughing. Can you imagine being in peril and no where to turn?
Dairy Farmers of Britain and Division of Federal Occupational Health???????
DFOB. DFOH. you know…that EVER expanding club of unsuspecting trusting mostly innocent souls who knew something…that vast welcoming committee whom will be waiting to greet them on the other side. Dead friends of Bill. Dead friends of Hillary.
No, I don’t know. And neither do you. I have neither the time nor the inclination to go through the list that someone has so kindly compiled of people “close” to the Clintons who have died under possibly suspicious circumstances. But fact checking organizations have done so. Just have a look at one of these: http://www.technorms.com/454/get-your-facts-right-6-fact-checking-websites-that-help-you-know-the-truth
In many (if not most) cases, they have shown the connection to the Clinton to be tenuous at best (as in the case of a former White House intern who was shot along with two others during a botched robbery at the Starbucks where she worked. How are you going to pin that on Bill? Or the case of Ron Brown, Secretary of Commerce. From what I have read, If there were any scandalous secrets about to be revealed, they were about him and not his boss). In others, investigations have shown that the cause of death was as stated (Vince Foster’s suicide) and was in no way connected to Bill or Hillary.
Does that make them paragons of virtue? NO. There is enough to criticize without needing to invent criminal activity. All that does is undermine all your arguments against them.
Ok. I will hand it to you on the 1 in a trillion chance you are correct. Probabilities are simply academic facts.
Probability is the measure of the likelihood that an event will occur. And yes, the more facts that are known the more accurate the prediction of probability. Take the supposed case of dfoh and dfob. If it had been proved that the first death was indeed due to B & H, then the likelihood, or probability that second one was as well increases.
If 49 had been proven, then you would be right that the 50th was as close to a certainly as makes no difference.
But nothing has been proven, so you have no facts to base your probabilities on. Wanting something to be true, does not make it so.
Please please please…enlighten our insurance industry on your actuary view of probabilities. Our rates will drop 50 percent overnight!
Let’s start with this: actuaries base their predictions on many sources of information and statistics. Nothing I say will, unfortunately make any difference to your insurance premiums. (this may have something to do with the fact that insurance companies, it seems to me, take actuarial statistics as a starting point and then add their own imagined risk factors so as to arrive at a situation where they are very unlikely to have to pay out ever.)
Have you asked an actuary to evaluate your 99.99999936 probability? I suspect he would laugh at you.
There’s a 99.99999936 chance I’m right…and a .00000064 chance you are right to ignore it.
If you vote for Hillary the refugees will come and rape and pillage and kill all true Americans…That is Hillary’s plan…I hope they rape and kill her too.
There has been so much venom flying back and forth that I seem to have lost track what it is I’m supposed to prove. Going backwards, it should be that Buzz is not mistaken when he says that Christian terrorists blow up buildings. But you have made a leap to the CLintons history of lies and deceit. As one cannot prove a negative, I am unable to prove that neither one has ever lied. Just saying that they did is not enough to prove your point.
Hey dumbass, buzz is wrong as you yourself are. You give me just ONE NAME of a Christian terrorist, just ONE NAME…..I’m waiting!!
Timothy McVeigh.
Hey ignorant, just because Timothy mcveigh was white, a Caucasian, doesn’t automatically make him a Christian, you fool. What’s say’in he wasn’t an atheist? an agnostic? To paint all white, all Caucasians, as Christians, is quite a false premise, and paints you as a racist and homophobe. Geez, get a brain will you. Your responses, all of them on this site, seriously lack not only FACTS, but common sense. Oh, but wait a minute, you’re a liberal troll now, aren’t you? You know those mentally diseased brains that lack all common sense and can’t recall any FACTS. Yeah, you, I told you quite a few times that you need to learn how to comprehend. Get busy and get back to school.
He was raised as a Catholic and received the last rites just before his execution, although he called himself an agnostic.
And who said anything about other white Caucasians? You asked me to name one Christian terrorist and I did.
Sooo, let me guess. McVeigh CALLED himself an agnostic, but just because he didn’t have a choice on being RAISED an agnostic, and facing the ultimate life-ending pursuit of DEATH in paying for his indiscretions, and having second thoughts about his misdeeds in wanting to absolve himself from eternal damnation, you’re going to JUDGE him as a Christian? Really?? Seriously????? You can’t be serious. McVeigh was no Christian!! He even said he was an agnostic. In my book, that is NOT a Christian. He had no choice on how he was raised, but giving him the benefit of doubt due to his Catholic upbringing, he had second thoughts on hell, asked for his last rites thinking that may absolve him from his sins, right? So that makes him a Christian? Elizabeth, I don’t know what planet you’re from, but you are an absolute ignorant on what a Christian is and what a Christian believes in and practices. You are a bonifide fool not to even bother with. End of discussion.
‘just because he didn’t have a choice on being RAISED an agnostic’ He wasn’t. He was raised as a Catholic.
What is an agnostic in your book? As I ‘comprehend’ the term, it is someone who is not sure. As an out and out non-believer, I find the agnostic position rather feeble. McVeigh at least had the sense to question the religion in which he was raised, but not the conviction to reject it completely.
You are right that I do not understand what a Christian is (even though I was educated at an Anglican school). I cannot understand how supposedly sensible people can believe that every facet of their lives is controlled by an unprovable deity. I cannot understand how Christians can reconcile the idea of being sent to hell for not believing with the idea of a loving God. And much more besides.
He was not a Christian. He did not adhere to the tenets of the Christian Faith. You can put any label on him that you want, but he did not LIVE a Christian life!!! You don’t LIVE a Christian life, you are NOT a Christian!!!
what if you DO live a Christian life (that is actually practice Jesus’ idea of loving thy neighbor), but you repudiate God. Are you then a Christian?
NO, you are not a Christian when you repudiate God. All your good works and deeds will mean nothing, and I mean nothing, come the end of your life. You deny God? You die in your sin. All, and I mean ALL of your good works and good deeds will NOT be rewarded with eternal LIFE, but with eternal DEATH…hell.
That guy wrongly took revenge on janet reno and the office staff who burned the koresh compound. Still waiting on the name of a Christian terrorist. The theatre n school shooters are atheists on drugs.
But isn’t that the very definition of a terrorist – doing something horrible for all the wrong reasons? When we do horrible things for the ‘right’ reasons (like making war on those who disagree with us), it is considered noble and patriotic. Still horrible, and still largely inspired by religious beliefs.
Happy hunting, E. W.! Here, let me help you a little….Ted Kaczynski….Eric Rudolph ……..[I know nothing about their religions]. I just KNOW you’ll cover all the bases and get back to us. Now, that’s three. You don’t think they were Muslims, do you? Because taqiyya permits them to lie to us infidels to help spread the Faith.
No, I do not think they were Muslims. I can say that with a certain amount of confidence as both men carried out their murderous rampages before 9/11 when the Muslim panic started.
Kaczynski was reportedly an atheist, and Rudolph associated with some rather iffy Christian groups. So, if you are trying to help me name Christian terrorists, it is only two.
Isn’t white Caucasions redundant, Elizabeth? I mean do you have knowledge of caucasions of any other colors?
You may note that I was not the one who originated the thread about white Caucasians. I was very tempted to make a scathing remark about the redundancy, but chose to be nice and keep quiet. Of course there are no caucasians of any other color.
What?? Now you sound idiotic by saying “of course there are no Caucasians of any other color”. That’s just pure stupidity.
Pure stupidity? Really? Are you saying there are Caucasians of other colors? Please elaborate.
No you didn’t! He was NOT a Christian as he, himself, said he wasn’t. Let me repeat this so you understand. When a person declares him/herself to be an agnostic, they are NOT a Christian!!!
Perhaps you do not really know what agnostic means. It means not being sure. Asking for a priest at the end suggests that he was hedging his bets, but at no time did he declare that he was not a Catholic. Same as Hitler.
And Elizabeth Whitehouse said I must have quit school because of my English. Sounds like she is such a radical she can only see as far as the end of her nose.
I actually tend to agree with you Rhoda.
She is so brain dead just like the rest of the idiot radical liberals.
But my English is impeccable.
You are just like the rest of the radical liberals you are following after and bragging about your Endlish being impeccable. Well, I could care less about your English or radical view and I told you I wasn’t going to argue with you, but it seems you are just like the rest of the idiots and would argue with a sign board. The reason is to see you arguing with everyone else on this website. Just because lying Hillary said that all Democrats are very smart and educated doesn’t mean a thing to me. We have 3 times more brilliant people in the Republican party and the Democrats have only a one tract mind and that they see dollars signs on the brain and trying to beat someone out of their own money. I hate to tell you, but you and Buzz will have a rude awakening someday from spewing lies about Christianity. When the Lord appears before each of you on judgement day and then I wonder what you both will have to say. I am sure with all the radical teachings that all of you are this way, so I will take it like a grain of salt and go on, but don’t say I didn’t tell you what is in your and Buzz future.
One of the rallying cries of the Republican party is that English should be the one and only language in the US. I have no problem with that, but if that is to be the case, I rather think that it should be well-spoken and well-written. Saying ‘ you know what I mean’ is not good enough. In many cases, that is true: yes, I know what you mean when you write Endlish, or say you could care less, even when you should say English and you could NOT care less.
But there are times when sloppy English leads to serious misunderstandings, and that can be a problem.
I don’t remember Hillary saying that all Democrats are very smart, but I certainly don’t see everything. I also don’t remember seeing any suggestion that there are 3 times more brilliant people in the Republican party. There is not a lot of empirical evidence to support that claim. Just about the only people in the whole world who refuse to acknowledge that human activity has led to the planet warming belong to the Republican party.
Without having actual figures to back this up, I have to say it seems as if all those who fail to accept that humans evolved from lower species belong to the Republican party.
As for the, by now outdated, belief that we were created by a supernatural force (God) who micromanages our lives, that seems to be fairly evenly split.
I am not in the least bit worried about the Lord appearing before me on judgement day (although I thought I was supposed to appear before him). Not going to happen.
“it seems as if all those who fail to accept that humans evolved from lower species belong to the Republican party”
William Jennings Bryan, notorious lawyer in the Scopes Trial, was a very partisan Democrat, and previously Democrat presidential candidate.
So?
“So?”
You said “all creationists are Republicans” — so I called you on it, with a counter-example (which is sufficient to disprove the “all”).
BTW, I am a Republican and do not consider evolution to be in any way controversial. Which is more than I can say for “global warming”.
I did not say “all creationists are Republicans”. That is how you chose to interpret my much vaguer statement, and your example from 91 years ago does nothing to disprove my contention that many Republicans in 2016 are still skeptical about evolution.
You are to be congratulated for your open-mindedness in considering at least one scientific fact uncontroversial. We can only hope that it will be sooner rather than later (if not indeed too late) that global warming is also scientific fact.
FYI – it’s not the republicans who are skeptical when it comes to evolution, it’s that democrats refuse to believe that there is a God who had a big hand in creating, not only this world, but in creating the universe. Over time, evolution is apparent, but God created this world and everything in the universe.
FYI – the earth has been going through warm-ups and cool-downs from time in memorial, THAT IS A SCIENTIFIC FACT! This global warming crap is a great big scam perpetrated by Al Gore, the New World Order, and the democrat party as a hoax for nothing more but financial gain. Wake up to reality and look at the FACTS. Man has had very little if ANY impact on climate change. Geez!
Geez, indeed.
When did God create the universe (and everything in it)? What did he create? Was it the cosmic dust? Was it the primordial slime? Where do Adam and Eve fit in? Let’s go with Genesis for a moment and accept that God created the earth in 6 days, including Adam and Eve. They had a few kids which is to be expected. All boys, one should note. Where did their wives come from? Did God go on creating humans? Did he create you? Or has he given up the task and left the process to sex and evolution?
FYI. Sure the world has been warming and cooling over many millennia. But never before has it warmed so much in so short a time. There is absolutely no doubt that the current global warming is due to human activity. And God seems to be doing very little to get us out of this mess.
That, Elizabeth, does not make it true because you don’t believe it. You should be very worried with your shear lack of understanding (comprehension) and faith. You WILL appear on Judgment Day before Our Lord and give an accounting for your every word, works and deeds. By your own admission, you better be VERY WORRIED!!
Eternity is a MIGHTY, MIGHTY LONG, LONG TIME!!!!
Your belief in Judgement Day and Heaven and Hell does not make them true.
My lack of belief in same is supported by a complete absence of evidence to confirm the existence of a supernatural being, as well as plenty of evidence to show that all gods are manmade.
It’s not the idea of going to Hell that bothers me; it’s the idea of spending eternity anywhere. Why is the idea so attractive to you?
You ask WHY is the idea so attractive to me? I’ll tell you why. Eight years ago the end of this month, I flat-lined not once, but three times….died! I was in a coma for thirteen days and due to a life saving defibrillator and many friends and family around me praying, I am very Blessed to be alive today. According to my doctors, I am in the one third of those who can function, of the 2% who have lived that went through what I had lived through. In my minds eye, in the emergency room, I could not only hear that heart monitor, but I could see it spiking up and down until it flattened out completely. When they pulled me out of my coma, I immediately wanted to be put back into it. I don’t know if it were the drugs, if any, that caused my most brilliant dreaming in technicolor against a white background, or if that was what heaven is like, but my faith in Jesus Christ, by His own words, have promised eternal life for those who are found in the Lambs Book of Life.
Elizabeth, you are but a couple years older than myself, and here in your old age, you don’t possess any faith in a higher being, I feel very sorry for you. What you need to do is take either a hike into a beautiful natural surrounding like a forest or down by a lake, stream, etc., sit there for awhile and ponder those ideas of WHO, WHAT, or WHERE all that beauty comes from. Better yet, open the Bible to page one and read that Bible. All the answers to any of your questions can be found in said Bible. To live your life without faith, well, I just cannot fathom that. It’s a pity shame that you have no idea what life can be like with FAITH in a higher being, for I myself, nearly on a daily basis, at least a couple of times a week, see so many little, as well as, a few big miracles in my life. I thank God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob everyday for the peace I have in my heart and in my life.
Franie. Do not feel sorry for me. I do enjoy the beauties of nature. In fact when I am not very possibly wasting my time in discussions like this, I work very hard to preserve nature in all its awe-inspiring splendor. I work to preserve endangered species threatened by man. And I’m afraid to say that many of them are threatened because followers of the Bible took the ‘dominion over animals’ bit too literally. If I believe anything, it is that there is no divide between us and animals. Either we all have souls, or none of us do. I tend to the latter view.
All of nature is a miracle, in the broadest sense of the word. To quote a favorite saying from my teenage years: all the world is beautiful and only man is vile. What man has done to the planet is horrendous. And, I’m afraid to say, it is religion that has given him license to do so. The idea that man is created in god’s image (too bad about the women) and is therefore special has led to the extermination of countless species of animals – not to mention other men.
Nature is wonderful. religion is nasty.
Simple… there is no ‘lord’… you’ve been lied to and used… the heaven you paid for all your life doesn’t exist… this is the only life you have and don’t let religion and the lying clergy ruin it for you…
Buzz has some good ideas and some pretty loony ones. As do you.
I’m sure that I responded to this before, but never mind. I’ll do it again. Starting with the idiotic expression “I could care less”. There are many, many things that I could care less about. The implication being that I care somewhat about them; they have some significance in my life. But when I say “i could NOT care less” it means that this is an issue of absolutely no importance. It is at the very bottom of the pile of things I care about. I’m pretty sure that is what you meant. But it is not what you said.
“impeccable”? You bahaha what a joke. More like your an imbecile. Here we have a kilarys blue pussy sniffer talking herself up like we would be impressed with the words it to her an hour or more to try and look up in the dictionary and still we see right through your nasty trolling. Liberals are all the same. Self righteous assholes that think they are above others but when things go south who do they call and cry out to for help? It sure as hell isn’t kilary or that towel headed tranny blowing ovomit because they would spit on you and you know it but yet you still bend over and take 1 for your team if losers. What a joke people like you are. You call us nut jobs and racist’s and islamaphobes well let me tell you his. I would gladly be any of those before I bent over and submitted to trash like ovomit the towel headed faggot or kilary the lieing murdering pedophile and rapist protector. Bring those muzrats home with you for some tea and anal because they are going to enjoy dumb ass liberals all day everyday and nobody is going to help you because while they are being strung up by us nut jobs your punk ass liberal friends will be looking for their safe place to hide. So just keep spew your shit along with buzz brain and ak unladylike because your time to pay the fiddler is coming sooner than you think. And we nut jobs have already left you to fight for yourself which bending over is not fighting at all. Wake up before they cut your damn fool head off and then explain to us how ” impeccable your English is” again hahahahahaha
“bending over is not fighting at all”
LOL!
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But you’re sadly lacking in common sense and comprehending what you’ve read.
Franie, I understand, I comprehend, I get it. I really do. Except for this insane belief in a supernatural being that controls our lives but who we want to hang out with for eternity. That I do not get.
What’s so insane about a belief in a supernatural being, a belief in God? We were given a free will by God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to choose between good and evil, right from wrong. You choose to follow God’s laws – the Ten Commandments, you will be Blessed beyond belief. You choose to follow Satan, yes, there is a devil, then you’ve barked up the wrong tree. You will not see those numerous Blessings in your life. You will not experience true peace and tranquility in your soul. Your life will have many, many mishaps and tragedies. Those are your options.
Seriously, there are only TWO OPTIONS upon our demise – heaven or hell. Elizabeth, believe it. I know you have no faith, but I would suggest strongly that you start acquiring and inquiring about a faith, a faith in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Open up a Bible and read what those who believe in God are promised. The Bible IS the Word of God. To go through life like you have, experiencing much grief and heartache, is not how life can be if you had faith.
Sigh. This could take a while.
Perhaps there is no real reason not to believe in a supernatural being, but which one do you choose? We can put aside the literally thousands of ‘lesser’ gods that have appeared and been discarded over the millennia, and concentrate just on the God of Abraham who has inspired Judaism, two antagonistic branches of Islam and 34,000 Christian sects. All of them think that their version of God is the right one.
The Old Testament consists of many distinct books written, compiled, and edited by various authors over a period of centuries. If they are the Word of God, it is about tenth hand. Whoever these people were, they were trying to explain the mysteries of the universe at a time when an eclipse was a frightening event. The fact that there are more than 4000 creation myths shows that the most common explanation for everything was a god-creator. And there is always the comfort of an afterlife.
Various churches have to greater or lesser degrees used this myth (why should the Christian one be any different?) to persuade their flocks to act in certain ways or else they would spend eternity in hell, a very nasty place.
But everything changed with Darwin. Or at least it should have, but churches are not giving up without a fight. Darwin (and the other great thinkers who arrived at the same conclusion about the same time he did) provided a non-supernatural explanation for the origins of man. A biological explanation known as evolution through natural selection. At a stroke he made God redundant.
But let’s look at what one gets from believing. You write “To go through life like you have, experiencing much grief and heartache, is not how life can be if you but only had faith.” I gave up any pretense at belief when I was 11. I have not experienced much grief and heartache. And I cannot think of a single way in which my life would be more fulfilled had I had faith.
As for what God promises, I cannot say it any better than George Carlin who talked about the 10 commandments that must be faithfully followed if one is to avoid the fiery pit, and ended with the immortal line: “but he loves you”.
What does God offer you? A place in Heaven for eternity – if you obey the rules and have a sufficiently miserable life on earth. Your reward is to hang out with him -for eternity. As you said, that is a long, long time. What are you going to do? Maybe, maybe, you will meet up with loved ones who departed this earth before you did. It’s beyond me how you will find them among the hordes of the saved, but suppose you do. Then what? It’s your soul that has been saved, remember’ your body is quietly moldering in the grave. You have no arms to hug, no lips to kiss, no tongue with which to converse. What do you do for eternity? Even heaven seems to me an exquisite form of torture. Is it really what you aspire to?
Churches and places of worship are not all bad. Small congregations have done wonderful things for their communities and they should be encouraged to continue doing good. But God is not necessary for someone to be an honest, upright contributing member of society. Trust yourself, here and now. Be nice. Be kind and lead a good life.
Sad, very, very sad! Just know that “no one comes unto the Father but by Me” saith the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, the one true and ONLY God.
Franie, do you now see there is a problem with your statement about “the one true and ONLY God.”? There are more than 7 billion people on this planet. Only 2 billion agree with you (that is are also Christians). Of the rest, 1.6 billion agree that there is only one god, but not the same one as you believe in. That means that half the planet does not believe in just one god.
Now why do you think that is?
Yes, Elizabeth you are correct. You will not get to “hang out with a supernatural being for all of eternity. We won’t either [Christians} In stead we will glory in the presence of Our Eternal Father, His Savior Son and The Holy Spirit. Nah, I don’t think you’ll get it.
No, Bonnie, I don’t get it. How does this glorying in the presence of all of them make your life any better?
So happy for you…Some of us are not as sharp as we were in college in the grammar dept.
Hey, Whitehouse, let’s say Tim was a christian, which I don’t know if it’s so or not. Anyway, I know nothing about any religious affiliation on his part also. Anyway you tell us which Christians have done such things and give us a number total]. Meanwhile, I’ll TRY and list some Muslims who have bombed, shot, stabbed, stoned, burned alive, BEHEADED, drowned…….let’s see………. have I missed any? Well, anyway, I’ll be you get done waaaa….. aaaaaaa…yyy ahead of me. Oh yeah, sodomy with small boys at least in Afghanistan. Happy hunting Miss Impeccability.
Christian Religious Terrorists (partial list): Hitler, Timothy McVeigh, Pol Pot, David Koresh, Mussolini, Adam Lanza, Jim Jones, John Brown, Guy Fawkes, clinic shooters, theater shooters, school shooters/knifers/bombers, ‘wrong’ church shooters/bombers, etc…
You’re a freaking liar and I only got to Hitler. He was born into Catholicism but stated in MEIN KEMFP that he never had any affiliation with any type of religion except to use it to his advantage. He would often use quotes like” I am working for the Lord” or some other hogwash to simply propagandize his own slck ideas. Sound familiar?
You’re a blatant liar… Hitler never said that in Mein Kampf… He always promoted his Catholic Christian religion as his personal belief and swore he always was, is, and would be that… and he acted like it…
How do you know he was a Christian. Even if he was, he did not act as a Christian. He acted out because of the Clinton’s appointed DOJ Janet Reano at the time who turned out to be a government terrorist.
If you have to act as a Christian in order to be counted as one, the numbers of the faithful would plummet. I ‘know’ that he was a Christian because he was raised as a Catholic, he never renounced his faith, and he asked for a priest before his execution.
Janet Reno was a government terrorist? Who knew?
“Janet Reno was a government terrorist? Who knew?”
Not you, apparently.
Bill Clinton called her “my biggest mistake”. (Actually she was another of Hillary’s mistakes.)
I have spent the past ten minutes Googling Clinton, Reno, biggest mistake, terrorist and various combinations thereof. It would seem that very few people know that Bill Clinton called her “my biggest mistake”.
So unless, you can provide a source for your allegation, I will have to say that you are exercising your over-active imagination.
“Over-active imagination”? Killing ALL men, women, AND CHILDREN is an “over-active imagination”? Janet Reno is a pioneer in modern day terroristic war on mostly innocent people!!!
“source for your allegation”
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Bill-Clinton-Janet-Reno-Waco-hated/2014/04/14/id/565512/
(I’ve seen it elsewhere as well, but this was likely the original source.)
It likely was the original source. However, this rather nasty man later admitted that he had made most of it up.
He did not “admit that he had made most of it up.” He admitted that some of it was conjecture on his part, of which he did not have personal knowledge.
I will grant you that your version is probably closer to what he actually said, but his intention was to mislead the public and denigrate the administration.
Just like all liberals and democrats do, huh? FACT!!!
No, Franie. Not a fact. Some liberals and democrats may seek to mislead the public. And some conservatives and republicans also. You simply cannot assume that every member of a group is going to act the same way simply because they belong to that group.
Wow! I’ll bet he wasn’t a damn liberal neither, so of course you won’t admit it. How’s it feel living in the world with blinded eyes and a hardened heart, hmm?
I don’t know how to reply to this because i have no idea what you are trying to say. Do you?
Hell yeah, Janet Reno was a government terrorist!! She gave the orders to completely annihilate all men, women AND CHILDREN. She had all of them killed in a most gruesome way.
Janet Reno will always be remembered as a TERRORIST!!!!
The word terrorist has become overused, and greatly misused. There are many words that could be used to describe what happened at Waco – massacre, fiasco, disaster, tragedy, mistake – but it was not terrorism. Terrorism is ‘the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear’.
In other words, it is violence with a purpose.
Perhaps you should go back and re-read reports about the Waco siege. It started when the Branch leaders resisted arrest killing four ATF agents and wounding 16 others. When the final attack occurred, the agents were using tear-gas. There was no order to kill. An independent investigation concluded that the Branch Davidians started the fire themselves. This cannot be proved, but there is no evidence that it was deliberately started by government forces.
You are wrong.
I don’t know why you’re so thick headed….with Janet Reno, it WAS “violence with a purpose”. It was purely political, PURELY!!! There was phenominal intimidation and very insistent coercion, ending with “the calculated use of violence” and “the threat of violence” – TERRORISM, governmental terrorism, indiscriminate terrorism against U. S. citizens…men, women AND CHILDREN!!!
“Perhaps YOU should go back and re-read reports on the Waco siege”. And to think you trust the ‘government reports’. You are a fool, an undeniably foolish fool at that!!!!
Franie. I have read the Waco reports. I try very hard not to make uninformed statements. A quick summary (not just from government reports, but from many news sources) is this: law enforcement officers (ATF) tried to serve an arrest warrant for suspected arms violations. They were met with armed resistance which left 10 people dead. A 51 day siege followed. Government forces eventually tried to storm the compound using tear gas to reduce resistance. A fire ensued. There is no evidence that it was deliberately set by the ATF forces.
Where is the indiscriminate terrorism?
This “undeniably foolish fool” would like to know who one is supposed to trust. Where do you get your information? Are you sure that it is a reliable source?
Whitehouse what a coincidence , your last name. Cute. Your last blog is incredible. I mean here you are on the internet where the key to knowing any thing is right at your fingertips [unless it’s from ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC [or more familiarly known as MSLSD]. Try any tv news from anywhere else. You’ll have a much, much better chance of getting some semblance of the truth.
My name was Whitehouse even when Reagan and both Bushes were in residence. Was it as cute then, I wonder?
This may come as a big surprise to you but I have never watched network news unless I have been alerted to a local story of interest. My cable package does not even include CNN and MSNBC. My daily quest for news includes the BBC, NPR, several online publications and my local newspaper which gives a balanced, if limited, view of the world.
My search for ‘some semblance of the truth’ can include many other sources such as statistical data, research reports, court proceedings, fact checking sites like Snopes and PolitiFact.com, and the document at the heart of this discussion, the US Constitution.
I have seen nothing to indicate that Hillary is a pathological liar. Have you?
Oh, puleeze. Wake up. Google the Clintons for God’s sake. Where you born yesterday?
Oh, puleeze, right back at you. If have Googled the Clintons so often that you could say I have it on speed dial. What I have found is largely hearsay, that is, some blog or rag makes an accusation with no sources and everyone chimes in to agree, as if repeating something often enough makes it true.
I’m not saying that Bill and Hillary Clinton are paragons of virtue, but there is just not creditable evidence to call them serial (or pathological) liars and certainly not murderers.
Perhaps you have come across something I missed. If so, please share.
I hesitate to suggest this, as it will likely give you nightmares “for eternity”. :-{
Read Jack Cashill’s book about Ron Brown.
I’m not going to read Cashill’s book (not at $30-70 a pop), but I have read through a couple of reviews as well as an interview that he gave. I have also read several reports of the accident, for want of a better word. When trying to evaluate
controversial
events, I always ask myself which proposed scenario is the most likely.
Cashill concentrates on the apparent hole in Ron Brown’s skull and implies that is it a gunshot would. So I have to ask, when was he shot? And by whom? Are we to believe that a passenger on the plane got up, shot the Secretary of Commerce and then order the pilots to bring th plane down so that this ‘murder’ would be concealed? Is that what you think happened?
You should be able to get a used copy from Amazon for < $30.
Several people tried to match Brown's wound to hardware in the passenger cabin, and could find nothing plausible. If he was shot (and I agree the evidence is inconclusive), it likely was seconds before the crash, or shortly afterward, perhaps by people on the ground. There are several lines of evidence suggesting a coverup. Simple plane crash is not persuasive, all things considered.
I have to go back to the idea of what is the most likely scenario. Do you really think that there were people on the ground waiting to shoot him in case he had miraculously survived the crash that killed everyone else on board? Except of course for the hostess who survived for a short while. Or as your friend Cashill would have it, walked to the medivac helicopter but was DOA at the hospital they took her to.
Just think about this. What makes the most sense?
You must be black due to your unreasonable defense of Obama. Blacks have a different way of looking at the world. All about racism as if they are not racist themselves. Go to bed, past your bed time.
As far as I remember (and as it is indeed past my bedtime, I may have forgotten something) I have not once mentioned President Obama during this discussion. And I am not black.
Racism is just one manifestation of extreme prejudice and bigotry. The three very unpleasant traits have in common the assumption that any person who belongs to a certain group is going to behave in the (always negative) way you expect them to.
I am not a racist, although I was carefully educated to be one. I grew up in apartheid South Africa and my mother went to great lengths to convince her daughters that black men only want one thing (the same attitude that led to so many lynchings in the American South). She did a pretty good job on my brother as well who still lives in South Africa and has never found anything good to say about black men. Women seem to be a lot more acceptable, maybe because we were raised more by our black nanny than by our parents.
I left South Africa in 1973 and have spent the past 43 years trying not to cross the street if I see a black man coming towards me, or finding a reason not to take the same elevator as a black man. It has not been easy, but I am very proud that my three children are totally colorblind. By that I mean that the color of a person’s skin is the last thing they think of to describe that person.
There are no Christian terrorists. To be a Christian means you do not do such things. A lunatic will say they are Christian because they hear from the devil…all of them. common knowledge.
“There are no Christian terrorists. To be a Christian means you do not do such things.”
I agree. “Christian terrorist” is an oxymoron. To qualify as a Christian requires adherence to at least some minimal core of beliefs and duties.
Even the enforcers of the Inquisition were not “terrorists”, although they were evil.
You might have more luck trying to show that Christian background or training predisposes someone in that direction. You’ll need it (the luck, that is).
To be a Christian you must be born again….absolutely no argument. God says.
Many have killed in the name of Christianity and the Catholic Church is one of the most brutal of all groups in the history of our planet:
Christian Violence in History:
The horrible truth is that, numerically and statistically speaking, Christian Civilization is the bloodiest and most violent of all civilizations in all of history, and is responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths.
Saint Augustine’s cognite intrare (“lead them in”—i.e. “force them to convert”). In fact the Qur’an says the exact opposite: There is no compulsion in religion ( 2:256 ). Augustine’s frightening idea that all must be compelled to “conform” to the “true Christian faith” has unleashed centuries of unparalleled bloodshed. Indeed, Christians have suffered more under the rule of Christian civilization than under pre- Christian Roman rule or any other rule in history.Millions were tortured and slaughtered in the name of Christianityduring the periods of the Arian, Donatist and Albigensian heresiesThe CrusadesThe European armies were saying, as they slaughtered both Christian and Muslim Arabs: “Kill them all, God will know his own.”Europe’s Reformation and Counter Reformation EraTwo thirds of the Christian population of Europe was slaughtered by ChristiansThe African slave tradeClaimed the lives of 10 millionThe Colonial ConquestsEstimates for the number of Native Americans slaughtered by the Europeans in North, Central and South America run as high as 20 million within three generations.The 20 th century’s Western Civilization took warfare to new extremesA conservative estimate puts the total number of brutal deaths in the 20 th century at more than 250 million. Of these, Muslims are responsible for less than 10 million deaths. Christians, or those coming from Christian backgrounds account for more than 200 million of these! The greatest death totals come from World War I (about 20 million, at least 90 % of which were inflicted by “Christians”) and World War II ( 90 million, at least 50% of which were inflicted by “Christians,” the majority of the rest occurring in the Far East). Given this grim history, it appears that we Europeans must all come to grips with the fact that Islamic civilization has actually been incomparably less brutal than Christian civilization. Did the Holocaust of over 6 million Jews occur out of the background of a Muslim Civilization?In the 20th century alone
Western and/or Christian powers have been responsible for at least twenty times more deaths than have Muslim powers. In this most brutal of centuries, we created incomparably more civilian casualties than have Muslims in the whole of Islamic history.In the 20th century, Rawanda, 1994 Witness the slaughter of 900,000 Rwandans in 1994 in a population that was over 90 % Christian1992-1995 BosniaThe genocide of over 300,000 Muslims and systematic rape of over 100,000 Muslim women by Christian SerbsWestern popular cultureIt should also be mentioned that although Islam has the concept of legitimate war in self-defense (as does Christianity, and even Buddhism), nowhere in Islamic culture (or in other cultures that survive today) is there latent the idealization, and perhaps idolization, of violence that exists in Western Culture. Westerners think of themselves as peaceful, but in fact the gentleness and sublimity of the New Testament, and the peace-loving nature of the principles of democracy, are scarcely reflected in Western popular culture. Rather, the entire inclination of popular culture— Hollywood movies, Western television, video games, popular music and sports entertainment—is to glorify and inculcate violence. Accordingly, the relative rates of murder (especially random and serial murder) are higher in the Western World (particularly in the U.S., but even in Europe, taken as a whole) than they are in the Islamic world in countries that are not suffering civil wars, and this true despite the much greater wealth of the West.
i tend to agree that there is a disconnect between identifying as a Christian and performing an act of terrorism. But I don’t think that it is your place to decide who is and is not a Christian. Let’s take an imaginary person. Let’s call her Mary Smith. She was born to Christian parents, baptized at the appropriate age, and still goes to church regularly. Is she a Christian? Most people would say yes, unhesitatingly.
Then she does something that you think is immoral. Say she sends a large donation to Panned Parenthood after they helped her daughter get an abortion. Is she still a Christian? Or, she stops going to church after her son was molested after choir practice. But she continues to volunteer for several faith-based charities, and is a good and law-abiding citizen. Is she still a Christian?
And what about me? I was baptized (or Christened as we would call it) and educated at an Anglican school. I have never committed an act of terrorism, and I follow the last six commandments quite faithfully. I do good deeds and I am quite nice to animals. My behavior fits well with biblical teachings. Does that make me a Christian? (Spoiler alert – not bloody likely!)
And you shall know them by their fruits…And the spirit in us witnesses of the spirit in them. Babe, she is no Christian.
At first I did not know who you were talking about. But I think I get it now. You are saying that my imaginary Mary Smith is no Christian. Why not?
No you are not a Christian. Better be on fast.
Not sure what ‘better be on fast’ means.
No, you’re right, for you are not a Christian. To not adhere to ALL the tenets of the Ten Commandments, does not make you a Christian.
Pardon me…but there are Ten Commandments and it is not for you to decide which ones to follow. They are called COMMANDMENTS for a very good reason, dear. You don’t tell God which ones you’re going to follow, how blatantly intolerable you are, not to mention irreverent. And no, you’re bloody right, you are NOT a Christian just because you are nice to animals and do good deeds. That will never get nor give you eternal life! For you to shun your upbringing, you will definitely in the end, suffer greatly whether you believe it or not. You carry much shame.
NOW the other fart sniffer troll pipes up to spew ITS load of idiocy from a head full of donkey turds.
You talking to me? as the saying goes.
Pam, what are you trying to say? I will converse with you until the cows come home, but you have to offer some kind of dialog.
I rather wish that those who are unable to offer anything meaningful to a discussion would just keep quiet.
Good advice! So STFU!!!
Perhaps you would be good enough to point out – with your superior comprehension and all – what Pam has contributed to the discussion? You have at least presented some arguments, misguided as I think them to be.
I also think that I have contributed quite a lot to the discussion. Obviously none of it is meaningful to you because you do not agree. If we all agreed, there would be no discussion.
I might ask you the very same question. What have you contributed to this conversation but to switch and bate your answers? You have NOT contributed jack to this conversation as you have not put forth even one FACT, but only your opinions, misguided as they all are. Granted, Pam has a one track mind, but it just may be her ‘way’ of dealing with people who haven’t the slightest idea of how to respond with factual info other than biased misinformation. Your comprehension skills go wanting on this site. I’m beginning to believe that you’re not only a product of the last twenty years of our woefully inadequate educational system, your lack of comprehension skills, but I am beginning to believe that the indoctorination of your limited cranial functioning is also miswired. Liberalism is a display of a dysfunctional mind. You go ahead and believe in your political correctness crap and put yourself out there to be ridiculed. Personally, it’s people like you and Buzz who are destroying our once ‘greatest nation on earth’ with your unabashed hatred for what is good and pure. It’s you and your ilk that should be ashamed that you have the audacity to spew the garbage that you do, the lies, the cheating, the destruction, the perversion, the ungodliness, and the death of our unborn. SHAME on you and Buzz. May the good Lord have pity on your souls.
End of conversation with you as you have not put forth any constructive input, certainly no facts neither.
Elizabeth, Don doesn’t have to prove jack! Buzz is the fool that threw out that garbage…he’s the one who needs to prove it. I suggest you get back to school and learn how to comprend what you read!
From the little I am able to ‘comprehend’, Buzz is about 60% right and fairly foolish for the other 40%. Don – and you – have rejected out of hand everything he has said with very little consideration as to whether some of what he says could be true.
You are somewhat more discerning in your reading of the Bible in that you accept what you want to believe and reject those bits that don’t quite fit your comprehension.
Elizabeth thats not warren, you sound like her. Excuse me she is a native American, using that tern loosely.
I am extremely flattered that you think I sound like Elizabeth Warren. She is one of my heroes.
See my posting below… correct YOUR mistake…
Moronic stupidity as usual from buzz the idiot.
He ain’t mistaken. He’s a commie troll distilling poison as usual. He ain’t have authorization to post anything else but poison to convince idiots.
Another nut case.
Amen!
I love the “block user” option with such as Buzz!
What planet are you talking about, Martian? Mars, Pluto or Utopia?
If you’re a psychotic religic, you don’t even know what planet you’re on… And what is real and what isn’t…
BACK to Obama’s back side, you need a FART REFILL Buzz.
HEY BUZZ; PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE go see a COMPETENT DOCTOR about a Recto-Cranial Extraction Procedure before your last brain cell expires.
You are one stupid sick ass hole….
But not in the name of their religion..those are bonafide nut cases.
Yep, all religics are bonafide nutcases! .. ALL RELIGIONS = ADDICTION to being lied to, an ENFORCED PSYCHOSIS, and WRITTEN ORDERS to MURDER EVERYONE on the planet! .. i.e. Armageddon, Left Behind movies, Story of Noah’s Ark…
Normal Person = NO addictions and NO mental illnesses
Religic/Theist = person with religion addiction, religion psychosis, and orders to murder everyone
Atheist = Person with NO religion addiction/religion psychosis/religious murderous desires, but may have other addictions and other mental illnesses
All religions require their customers to blindly psychotically believe imaginary supernatural being(s) are REAL…
ADDICTIONS are the biggest threat to the USA, UK, Canada, Australia, Russia, China and all the world !!!
++++ The Six Big ADDICTIONS to AVOID like the PLAGUE !!! ++++
1. DRUG ADDICTION including alcohol addiction/alcoholics and nicotine addiction/smokers
2. RELIGION ADDICTION/PSYCHOSIS religics, theists, religious terrorists, clergy
3. HOMOSEXUALITY ADDICTION (most homosexics admit they have an addiction)
4. OBESITY ADDICTION fat
5. COUCH POTATO/SLOTH ADDICTION
6. GREED ADDICTION (EvilBushJr. – Kill for profits)
Sorry. There is no hope for you Buzz until you admit to yourself that you are not only possessed, but that you ARE mentally ill.
Here’s a thought…put down that Koran and pick up the Bible and actually read it. Oops! I forgot, silly me. You first need to go back to school and learn HOW to comprehend what you’ve read!
Is that the same Bible that gave you the idea that mental illness is the equivalent of possession?
No, not at all. Where do you get off equating mental illness from being possessed? Shame on you.
I know it is easy to confuse who said what in earlier posts, but this is only one away. You said :”admit to yourself that you are not only possessed, but that you ARE mentally ill.” My limited comprehension took that to mean that they are one and the same thing. Possession implies the devil and the devil appears quite often in the Bible, so I made the outrageous assumption that the Bible was your source.
Would you like to give examples of just WHO it is you’re talking about? I don’t recall any Christian killing ANYBODY in the name of Christ. To throw that kind of garbage out there and think it will stick is showing your shear and absolute biased hatred of Christians. ONLY sickos, the mentally deranged, and the Muslims are out there killing people. NOT ONE OF THEM IS A CHRISTIAN. Christians abide by the commandment of “Thou shalt NOT kill”, saith the Lord Jesus Christ.
I would strongly suggest you review those Ten Commandments as you are breaking the one that explicitly states “Thou shalt NOT bear false witness against thy neighbor” saith the Lord Jesus Christ. Let me clarify that for you…it means Christians are NOT allowed to lie neither.
Go take your biased hatred and clean it up as your eternal soul commands that you do so. To not do so will have mighty dire consequences for your eternal resting place!!!!
Just what were the Crusades all about, then? Oh yeah, got to burn the library at Alexandria, as there’s too much incriminating evidence hiding there (sounds like WTC Bldg. 7). And then there are the Cathars of the Pyrenees, the horrible blasphemers, gotta kill them all. And then there’s the Inquisition – ah but those folks were just Sephardic Jews trying to infiltrate our Godly Catholicism.
I wouldn’t for a moment side with the Waldron fool, but you ARE wrong in this one. And all three modern religions are guilty of killing in the name of their god. That it happens isn’t bad enough, but they seem to enjoy it so much. If there is a Devil, he seems to have taken up residence in the minds of “devout” Christians/Jews/Muslims/Wiccans/whatever. His spirit certainly seems to have found fertile ground in such folks. May God have mercy on us as a civilization – and may his aim be accurate with the asteroid. (Chuckle quietly).
Bill, my knowledge of the Catharsis of the Pyrenees and Shepardic Jews, I admit goes wanting, but the Crusades were in direct response to the Muslims invading Europe back then. I believe they first infiltrated France and moved northwards in their quest, even back then, to establish sharia and Islam. I don’t blame Christians one iota for rising up to quash an invading army of barbaric animals who came to terrorize and demand or be killed. It’s called survive and thrive or be killed.
Nor do I, my friend.
Moses gave 632 Commandments to the Jews, not just the ‘movie 10’… The full commandment you cite is : Thou shalt not kill another Hasidic Jew, but it’s OK to kill anyone else for any reason… or even no reason… as per all 632…
People think murder is wrong until a religion convinces them it’s OK, even required… because an evil imaginary God wants that…
Yes, mentally deranged sicko Christians LIE whenever they claim imaginary God and imaginary Jesus is real… in the gospel stories, the imaginary Jesus character murders and blinds people by age 12…
Not as part of their religious beliefs. Those who did these things probably were not members of a Christian Church. What you have said indicates you are not Christian and should be converted to improve your life and understanding.
ALL RELIGIONS = ADDICTION to being lied to, an ENFORCED PSYCHOSIS, and WRITTEN ORDERS to MURDER EVERYONE on the planet! .. i.e. Armageddon, Left Behind movies, Story of Noah’s Ark…
Normal Person = NO addictions and NO mental illnesses
Religic/Theist = person with religion addiction, religion psychosis, and orders to murder everyone
Atheist = Person with NO religion addiction/religion psychosis/religious murderous desires, but may have other addictions and other mental illnesses
All religions require their customers to blindly psychotically believe imaginary supernatural being(s) are REAL…
ADDICTIONS are the biggest threat to the USA, UK, Canada, Australia, Russia, China and all the world !!!
++++ The Six Big ADDICTIONS to AVOID like the PLAGUE !!! ++++
1. DRUG ADDICTION including alcohol addiction/alcoholics and nicotine addiction/smokers
2. RELIGION ADDICTION/PSYCHOSIS religics, theists, religious terrorists, clergy
3. HOMOSEXUALITY ADDICTION (most homosexics admit they have an addiction)
4. OBESITY ADDICTION fat
5. COUCH POTATO/SLOTH ADDICTION
6. GREED ADDICTION (EvilBushJr. – Kill for profits)
I would like you to show me or give me the passage in the king james bible were it ask you to kill for christ
Really?? Christian religious terrorists daily shoot these places up in the USA?? Hey buzz what medication on you on, that’s the most insane thing I’ve heard on the Internet in hours. Make sure your baby sitter locks up the computer when she isn’t able to monitor you.
What planet are you living?
Have you ever thought about actually looking up the data before typing what might LOOK intelligent but is actually really stupid? If you would like Buzz, I still have a brother that still works for the Census Bureau who can give you some information (if he’s asked, and you would like some?).
Buzz. You. Are. A. Dumbass.
Too late… the TRUTH is out there… nobody believes you evil psychotic religics any more…
Lizbuzz or buzzlizz. Same person.. Sad you don’t know Which animal you are….But it acts as That little punk troll to tell us what we know to be true really isn’t..you are required by every dictator wannabe. Hitler had thousands like you performing your function…so..you aren’t enlightened…you aren’t anything new. And God likely agrees.. You are a Dumbass..actually I think “fool” is more His description of you.
Are you referring to Obamas friends, Bill Ayers and his lovely Mrs. [Bernadene Dohrn]?Or Bill and Hilly? I’m sure that if you look up any of these DAILY infractions, you’ll find no legitimate Christian responsible. Those mentioned above are about as Christian as Charlie Manson or Whitey Bulger.
Oh the trolls like you come out thick as shit when the liberal assholes get called in their lieing bullshit. Pull your lips off that treasonous faggot ovomit ass before you explode from sucking in to much muzrats bullshit. Do you liberals actually think you and your family’s wives daughters sisters will be safe if ovomit and kilary are allowed to continue on the path of selling out and destroying this country? Even though we true patriotic American Citizens will never sit back for that to happen just keep in mind, we don’t forget and won’t forgive people like you that puff the muzrats pole
YOU can’t be a ‘real American’ if your brain is still controlled by an evil foreign psychotic Middle Eastern religion like Christianity !!! .. Please move to a Middle Eastern theocracy and enjoy being beheaded…
Lunatics do that not Christians. To be a Christian you cannot be nuts…You cannot take those actions…They are decieved by satan and crazy as well…Need locked in mental ward.
Christians = LUNATICS who think imaginary God(s) and Jesus are real…
Actually they DON’T! Read the New Testament sometime and tell me where those orders are given.
See my above posting…
Never argue with an idiot. Someone just dropping by will see the interaction and won’t be able to discern who the idiot is.
99% of DAILY Religious Terrorism in the USA is Christian Religious Terrorism !!! :
Footnoted small sample of Judeo/Christian Religious Terrorism WRITTEN ORDERS for Murdering of innocent people:
“Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.” Psalm 144:1.
Jesus: “ 34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn…
“a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law…” Mathew10:34-35
Jesus, who wanted to be King of the Jews, said: “But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and KILL them in front of me.” (Luke 19:27)
Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be STONED TO DEATH by the community. (Leviticus 24:14-16)
Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be PUT TO DEATH. (Deuteronomy 13:5)
If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, KILL them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)
If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and KILL ALL of it’s inhabitants… even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)
KILL anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)
KILL all men, women, children, and, even, babies already of the 20 nations/50 belief systems/religions of the Promised Land when moving into it. (Deuteronomy)
Imaginary Jesus of gospel stories said his followers must obey the Torah/Old Testament (N.T. not invented yet) (Jesus invented ~150 A.D.)
No use cutting and pasting again buzz. ‘Ain’t goin to convince nobody’.
If the Bible IS God’s word, what about all the left out parts on the cutting room floor under Constantine? Under King James? What about those other gospels which aren’t ever talked about in the churches?
Sorry, Don, but this PK has to disagree with you. BTW, my pastor/father was a clairvoyant and had previous life memories – how does our edited good book cover that? (Recorded and analyzed by language experts as he spoke in ancient languages). Ever read about Edgar Kacey? Similar.
Wh-a-a-at are you saying and what are you smoking!?!
That’s just plain crazy!!!
True… ALL religions are evil mental illness…
Speaking of MENTAL ILLNESS; YOUR LIBERAL FART SNIFFING has lowered your IQ to a MINUS 1.
NO….JUST YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL!!! My suggestion for you is to seek out the Word of God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, for then you will find TRUTH, truth you can actually believe in. But get back to school first and learn how to comprehend what you have read.
NONE of the 10,000 imaginary God(s) that religics on this planet worship and murder for ever existed !!!
That’s a load of atheist bs to. I’ve never read,heard or even thought that crap about killing those not of my Religion.
Then you’re not following the ORDERS of your religion… you’re a backslider!
Sorry ashole, BUT my CHRISTIAN RELIGION based on the NEW TESTAMENT does NOT order ANY killings. YOUR feeble deluded mind full of methane from fart sniffing has become completely delusional and its a wonder you don’t pee your panties and crap in your Depends.
My Christian upbringing (I had the misfortune to spend 10 years at a seriously Anglican school) taught me that Christians should try hard to be nice to others. I very much doubt that you would pass the test. In fact, if it were necessary to find more reasons not to be a Christian, you would be exhibit A – and B and C.
May I humbly suggest that you seek counseling to help you get over your extreme unpleasantness. You could start with whoever oversees your Christian religion.
99% of DAILY Religious Terrorism in the USA is Christian Religious Terrorism !!! :
Footnoted small sample of Judeo/Christian Religious Terrorism WRITTEN ORDERS for Murdering of innocent people:
“Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.” Psalm 144:1.
Jesus: “ 34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn…
“a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law…” Mathew10:34-35
Jesus, who wanted to be King of the Jews, said: “But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and KILL them in front of me.” (Luke 19:27)
Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be STONED TO DEATH by the community. (Leviticus 24:14-16)
Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be PUT TO DEATH. (Deuteronomy 13:5)
If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, KILL them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)
If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and KILL ALL of it’s inhabitants… even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)
KILL anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)
KILL all men, women, children, and, even, babies already of the 20 nations/50 belief systems/religions of the Promised Land when moving into it. (Deuteronomy)
Imaginary Jesus of gospel stories said his followers must obey the Torah/Old Testament (N.T. not invented yet) (Jesus invented ~150 A.D.)
And your full of. Shit to.
Give it up buzzy boy!
You sound as if your a Muslim trying to downplay Christians as not true to THIER religion. Best you take you Muslim Jib Jam and go someplace else it’s of no use here
99% of DAILY Religious Terrorism in the USA is Christian Religious Terrorism !!! :
Footnoted small sample of Judeo/Christian Religious Terrorism WRITTEN ORDERS for Murdering of innocent people:
“Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.” Psalm 144:1.
Jesus: “ 34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn…
“a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law…” Mathew10:34-35
Jesus, who wanted to be King of the Jews, said: “But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and KILL them in front of me.” (Luke 19:27)
Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be STONED TO DEATH by the community. (Leviticus 24:14-16)
Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be PUT TO DEATH. (Deuteronomy 13:5)
If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, KILL them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)
If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and KILL ALL of it’s inhabitants… even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)
KILL anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)
KILL all men, women, children, and, even, babies already of the 20 nations/50 belief systems/religions of the Promised Land when moving into it. (Deuteronomy)
Imaginary Jesus of gospel stories said his followers must obey the Torah/Old Testament (N.T. not invented yet) (Jesus invented ~150 A.D.)
You sir are a atheist Muslim fool not really belonging to this country. You should go back yo where you came from before you go totally crazy and get lost in the wilds of the swamp of hell
Only an idiot would say someone is an atheist (no religion addiction) and then in same sentence claim they have Islam religion… Actually, I’m a Normal Person with NO addictions (including NO religion addictions) and NO mental illness and NO idiocy… you might try it for a change instead of always being the foolish, murderous pawn of the evil religion industry…!!!
I’m beginning to think buzz is a Muslim, hardcore wired to that Mohamed sicko and his perverted teachings and musings.
Bullshit, show me one religion that promotes murder and any of the horrors that MUSLIMS promote in these modern times.
Buzz the liberal Hillary Fart sniffing troll spews its load of liberal bullshyte and Idiocy as usual.
Which ‘fart sniffing troll’ would that be? You have such a wonderful way with words.
Elizabeth, your buddy buzzy boy and you need to give it up and just go away. Only intellectuals are allowed to respond. Sorry!
I should just go away, I realize that. But first, I have to ask how you define intellectual.
I’m a Trump supporter and lifelong registered Republican, unlike you Moslems…
Your an idiot! either that or you just can’t read!
The democrats are good at those shows, and the media proves to us how much they suck.
Trump goons HATE Dan Rather!
That is why they had the RIGHT to punch him at a Democrat Convention!
GOOGLE “THE CLINTON CHRONCILES” & LISTEN TO THE END. IF THIS DONT OPEN YOUR EYES NOTHING WILL. DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS BACK IN DC. IF YOU DO, YOU HATE THIS COUNTRY.
He should Go See “Hillary’s America” , NOW playing in a theater near you.
She should also look up saul alinskys’ 8 levels of control.
Stick it back up your rectal opening green slime; it should fit in there with your cranium.
Oh, Pam. I know this was not addressed to me, but I simply have to respond.
I am beginning to think that you are the unhappiest person on this planet. Why else would you take such pleasure in saying such really unpleasant things to people you do not know?
You do not have to agree with everything greenlantern says, but I have not yet seen anything he/she has posted that warrants such vitriol. He/she seems to be quite a nice, thoughtful person. You, Pam, are not.
Geez Elizabeth, talk about a condescending b!tch!!! You take the cake.
This is Pam I’m talking to, and you call me a bitch. Sorry. No comprendo.
If we take the dictionary definition of condescending to be ‘showing that you believe you are more intelligent or better than other people’, then I have to say you are right. I take issue with the bitch part though.
But a copy of the Constitution, which obviously he has never even read but only brought a “booklet” (who knows what it really was because my copy of the Constitution is far different in shape and color), to lead us to think, wrongfully, that he has read it and follows it. Another islamic lie that the weakminded bought hook, line and sinker!
Wow, you have a unique copy of the constitution! That must be worth a fortune!!!
I have four of the little booklets, three came from the ACLU which distributes them widely, and the fourth was in my new citizen packet. They all have different covers and differ slightly in shape.
Based on nothing more than your unfamiliarity with the variations of mass-produced copies of the Constitution, you accuse Mr Khan of seeking to deceive the American people. Given his response to the question (of whether or not he has read the famous document), I strongly suspect that Donald Trump has not read the Constitution. He has confessed that he doesn’t read much, and his woeful ignorance about the world around him does little to disprove his claim.
I also strongly suspect that Mr Trump has not read the Bible either. If he had, he would have realized that Buzz Aldrin is at least partially right when he says “Actually, ALL religions have those similar WRITTEN ORDERS to MURDER everyone ” in some form or another.
Elizabeth: That’s pure unadulterated BS!
Oh, yes? In what way?
Ever which way from SUNDAY turd.
Huh??????
From the ACLU;; The American COMMUNISTS LIARS UNION.
I suspect you have never read the COnstitution, and have NOT a clue what it says. Kahn is an ISLAMIC MUSLIM HATER of the USA and now a useful fool and tool for the libtarded DIMOCRAP party. He son may have been a “HERO” but the father is a slimeball third world traitor.
yes, Pam. I have read the Constitution. As a result, I feel quite strongly that the time has come to have a serious conversation about its relevance in its current form.
To put it another way, I think that we, the people, need to look closely at what the Constitution does, and does not do for us.
A pile of crap you are. All I can say about you is that your hardened heart and blinded eye are going to see to your eternal demise. Wow!
There is a lot more sympathy and acceptance in my heart than in yours.
My vision is not and never has been great (literally) but I see quite clearly that I am not a part of eternity. When I die, that is it. It’s over.
The Constitution was written by our Founding Fathers!
The BOOK OF MORMON was written in 1830!
Were our Founding Fathers Mormons?
More idiocy from the moron with more donkey turds between its ears than brain cells.
You are ridiculous. Do you have a copy of the KKK welcome kit in your pocket?
BACK to Mexico you ILLEGAL ALIEN SLIMEBALL.
I shouldn’t bother. I really shouldn’t. But I can’t help myself.
The man’s user name is Jose. From that you assume that
a) he is Mexican
b) he is illegal
c) he is a slimeball.
None of his comments have supported any of those contentions. Yours, on the other hand, have made it perfectly clear that you the sort of Christian/American that provokes normally peaceful people to take violent action.
You are an idiot Pam. I am not Mexican. But your bigoted butt decided because my name was Jose you could be a rude ass witch. I bet I could outscore you on an test on American History you can produce so up yours.
No, that’s where his copy O Saul Aliksky’s “Rules for Radicals” hold a special place of honor.
Garys_opinion – This country does not need a naïve person like you. In addition to Nina’s comment, Mr.. Kahn makes his income by selling his assistance to wealthy buyers from middle east to enter this country. He also has a strong ties to Saudi Arabia, Brotherhood, and other terrorist organizations. No, it was not a dog and pony show, wake up!
08/04/16 = Good morning Nina, you are so right with your facts. Obama was a Muslim when he became president, he said that he would transform America but did not say, to a Total Muslim country. He has been quietly placing Muslim people in prominent government positions and…. Hillary Clinton’s personal aide, Huma Abedin and her parents are close associates of Mr. Khan, whom stated that Sharia Law must rule over Our Constitution. = Five years ago, the Muslim people were peaceful. Today they have become Bold and aggressive. = Ex: on Dec. 11th., in Hamburg, NY, I was shopping at a store, with Christmas mdse. piled high on all counters. I was wearing my Donald Trump campaign pin. My husband also was wearing his Donald Trump hat and pin. He followed me with our market cart. I crossed the two main aisles. As I turned the corner, into another main aisle, I saw a Muslim man and his wife, wearing her burka. They could not see my husband because of the piles of mdse. I heard my husband shout my name and push our cart between the Muslim man and me. My husband said “didn’t you see, that Muslim man was going to ram you with his cart”? And…. when I turned around, the Muslim man was glaring at us. = Five years ago that Muslim man would not have had the audacity to act like that! GOD HELP THE TRUE AMERICANS TO ELECT MR. TRUMP AS PRESIDENT OF AMERICA!!!
How very telling that you begin with ‘your facts’. May I remind you of the very wise words of the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan: “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts”
I have not found – and I have looked, believe me – one shred of evidence that President Obama is, was or even is likely to be, a Muslim.
My first inclination on reading about your really ‘frightening’ experience in the supermarket was to mock you for making so much out of so little. (If I had just been accused of trying to ram a fellow shopper with a cart, I might also glare a bit, audacious as that may seem). But what is really frightening is that you and your husband have been so indoctrinated by anti-muslim propaganda that he immediately assumed that an attack was imminent. I have to ask, have there been many instances of Muslims shoppers ramming non-Muslims with their carts? Cases that might have alerted your husband to the potential danger?
Give it a rest Elizabeth> We all know that you’re a Clinton surrogate and just another liberal fool like your precious Daniel Patrick Moynihan who spouted nothing but his own fabricated “facts”.
It is so difficult to have any sort of reasonable discussion with people who base all their arguments on wild assumptions. Where have I even come close to suggesting that I am a Clinton supporter, let alone a surrogate?
STFU. You are not here for any reasonable discussion. No liberal retard is congenitally capable for a reasonable discussion. You’re here to troll and try to confuse some not really well informed people and justify the salary you get from the Clinton Foundation and/or George Soros.
Sorry, I will not STFU. Even though I do not completely agree with the general interpretation of the 1st Amendment, there is nothing you can do to prevent me from expressing an opinion on a public forum.
I do not take a salary from the Clinton Foundation of George Soros (even though I have been exploring ways to make that happen – I would rather be paid for spending hours each day communicating with the intellectually challenged than doing it all on my own dime).
It is unfortunate that this country has such a poor educational system that there are many ‘not really well informed people’ who are easily confused. I like to think that I help them understand how things are rather than confuse them further.
It’s plain to see from your posts that you are a far-left Democrat….perhaps even a Sanders girl but my money is on that you vote for lyin’ Hillary without hesitation.
You are half right. I am a Sanders supporter, and I am waiting with bated breath to hear why that is such a bad idea. But you are wrong that I will vote for Hillary without hesitation.
If I loved in a swing state, I would vote for her to prevent Donald Trump from becoming the next president. Fortunately, I live in a strongly blue state which gives me the freedom to express my dissatisfaction with either candidate by voting for a third party candidate.
Stop making assumptions.
My assumptions about you being a far left Sanders supporter were correct. As far as his Socialist doctrine is concerned, a wise woman named Margaret Thatcher once said: Socialism only works until you run out of other peoples’ money. Taxing the producers of the nation to support those without ambition will result in ultimate collapse of the greatest nation on earth. Does that bother you….punishing initiative and rewarding inertia? It bothers me a great deal Elizabeth.
You cannot have any discussion with a moron that has a cranium full of lies and donkey turds. EVERY WORD YOU SPEW reveals that about you. I bet you sniff hillary farts and are voting for it too aren’t you.
No I am not voting for Hillary. And I am not a moron. You can say that as often as you like, but it will not alter the fact that I have a considerably above average intelligence and two degrees to show for it.
08/04/16 = Elizabeth, I was communicating with Nina, not you. = Don’t you know that it is an ignorant person or one without manners that would give their opinion without being addressed. And…. for you to twist and add to my words of my personal experience, to fit your own need, is deceitful.
These comment sections are totally public. If you wish to communicate with Nina and only Nina, then you have to find a private way to do so.
I have not twisted your words. I do not have my own need. And their is no deceit. I would go as far as to say that it was not even your ‘personal’ experience: it was your husbands. At no point did you convey that you felt threatened.
08/04/16 = Elizabeth, it seems that you believe, you can push people around with your words and force them to believe You, because You Say “It Is So”. Children behave like that, adults do not.
I do not believe in anything that cannot be supported by credible evidence. It is my fervent hope that all thinking adults will do the same. I do not force anyone to believe – that is the realm of the church.
08/05/16 = Elizabeth, I really do not care about your beliefs. You speak out of both sides of your mouth. You need to go where you can be of some help.
I must have misunderstood what speaking out of both sides of your mouth means. I thought it was saying whatever you think the person you are speaking to wants to hear. I am pretty consistent in my message and views. Can you give me an example of where I either contradicted myself, or changed my position?
By the way, the beauty of the internet is that I could be anywhere in the world. You don’t know where I am, or where I think I can be of some help.
Look up saul alinsky 8 levels of control and try to say it isn’t happening,that is why we need to DEFEAT HILERY IN NOVEMBER
TRUMP 2016 ALL THE WAY
I did. And there are 13, not 8. And they are known as rules for radicals, ways to bring about social change (in his words, empowerment of the poor), not control. I also learned that his rules had been used by a branch of the Tea Party. Interesting!
More bullshyte from another troll with more methane and donkey turds than brains. He went to a MUSLIM SCHOOL as a child, had a Muslim Father who enrolled him as a Muslim, has made numerous comments STATING he would BACK the MUSLIMS over the USA and the COnstitution. He has practiced Muslim customs during ramadam, Mde asinine and cutting remarks about Christianity, refused to allow CHRISTIANS refugees to migrate here along with the Muslim/ISIS crowds, thinks the MUSLIM ISLAMIC CALL to PRAYER is the “MOST BEAUTIFUL SOUND” he has ever heard; Had pictures of him dressed in muslim garb.
You are absolutely right that Obama went to a Muslim school in Indonesia for a couple of years. And, yes, he was enrolled there by his Muslim step-father. And, yes, for a short time he used his stepfather’s name. And, yes, he has donned muslim garb when visiting relatives None of that makes him a Muslim.
I promise you that it is quite possible to be subjected to religious indoctrination and come out the other end unscathed. Unfortunately, not everyone does, but I did, and I’m pretty certain Obama did (we have the problem that he has opted for the Christian indoctrination instead, but perhaps that discussion should wait for another day).
As for the rest of your ‘arguments’, I am waiting some evidence to support your theories.
Plus Khan is an attorney literally “selling” E permits to bring in more muslims, which is also illegal but works for the Clintons and their end goal of taking over America to communism and they as part of the globalist evil elites to rule us. Khan also knows in islam that no wife is allowed to sit next to her husband and she is not allowed to speak or do anything to rile her husband or face death at his hands, that they must kill the infidels (that’s you and me), etc. AND, Kaine is a copy of Hillary and both are negatives in being humans and hating America and want to give it away. By the way, Khan called America a democracy. WELL, we are NOT a democracy, we are a REPUBLIC a whole and wonderfully different form of government where WE, THE PEOPLE ARE THE GOVERNMENT and we have been stupid in electing traitors to the WH and Congress as well as in local legislatures. When will we wake up and smell the stench we have allowed to enter our country and Constitution and Bill of Rights?
Oh dear God, do we really need to make this a competition? Doed it really have to become a political football? The only reason the media is saying anything at all about the Khans is that Trunp could not keep his mouth shut. The stories are all about how inappropriate it is that a Presidential candidate would respond in this manner to a Gold Star parent. It has nothing to do with his grief being any worse that the loss of life at Benghazi or a policeman’s family or even any one of the families in recent terror attack deaths. Stop! Just stop and acknowledge that Trump is a thin skinned tool. He isn’t even a conservative but you keep defending him because of your need to “win”. You’ve already lost with him as your candidate, even if he wins. If you don’t believe he will destroy all of the party leadership you hold dear, if he elected then you are kidding yourself. He has already started by refusing to endorse Ryan or McCain. Good luck with that one.
LOL, your the fool, the party leadership need’s to be put out to pasture. !!!!
I couldn’t agree more. Both parties.
Well you trump supporters are doing a great job of destroying the party. Pat yourselves on the back and call anyone who disagrees with you a nasty name. Seems it makes you feel better and we all could use a little pick me up. Hugs and kisses from this fool.
Who the FLICK are you to judge who is conservative or not. Are you the conservative police. You probably call McCain, McConnell and Paul Ryan conservatives. If they are conservatives I want out of that list.
And she will. I truly hope I’m wrong but she stole the nomination and got away with it. NO ONE did anything. So how can she not steal the election? Thankfully she will be used by God and in the end…well…you know.
No, I (for one) don’t know. How will she be used by God?
Hopefully to provide SATAN with a NEW bedmate, ALTHOUGH I suspect he already OWNS her thanks to all the BODIES in Hillary’s past. (47+)
Sigh.
This Khan thing is just another distraction from the media’s responsibility to cover more important stuff.
Nina, Thank you for your comment.
IF it’s covered up how did you find out??
“There is no such thing as a Moderate Muslim, only Apostate ones!”
stumpknocker77.wordpress.com/2015/12/06/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-moderate-muslim-only-apostate-ones/
Many Muslims living in Islamic countries have no problem with the rule of putting apostates to death. The examples of Robert Hussein of Kuwait, Abdul Rahman of Afghanistan, and Bahaa el-Din Ahmed Hussein el-Akkad of Egypt come to mind. These ugly Muslim governments are succored by the West’s finances and blood while they impose an imperial and brutal religion upon its citizens.
On the other hand, Muslims living in the West are embarrassed by this death sentence. The West values the freedoms of thought and speech, Islam does not, and these virtues have never blossomed under Islamic rule. Consequently, when asked about the Islamic law for apostates many Western Muslims do their best to cover up Islam’s edict. Motivated by conviction, or shame, they make up various defenses and say whatever they can to put your mind at ease and make Islam more acceptable to a naïve, gullible, and ignorant Western audience.
>>>> The way around that little Catch 22, is to lie.
>>>> The Taqiyya Factor
americanthinker.com/articles/2015/11/the_taqiyya_factor.html
Taqiyya is an Islamic doctrine that allows Muslims to deceive non-Muslims. As in lie to them. Dr. Sami Mukaram, author of Taqiyya in Islam, writes: “Taqiyya is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it…
>>>> Khizr Khan and President Obama expertly practices Taqiyya.
A person could get the idea, after reading this information, that the system is RIGGED?? Probably a little embarrassing to have Malik Obama, the president’s half brother, now a U.S. “LEGALIZED CITIZEN” IS BACKING TRUMP.
The DNC has always been rigged and rigging other non-DNC candidates. I believe however that the computers and being able to obtain information that is real will be their downfall and hopefully for this election. Wikileaks has more emails to send out, so stay around to read/know them. A lot more from the DNC and members. Love it. They have started abandoning the sinking ship by “retiring” themselves before they truly wind up in jail and probably hanged as the traitors they are. We need these emails now, Wikileaks, so people will wake up and realize that Trump MUST BE OUR PRESIDENT IN ORDER TO SAVE THIS COUNTRY!
This whole thing is an obvious ploy to get Trump to speak harshly & criticize a “Muslim American”, and since we have a bunch of pantywaste GOP out there, it’s working better than they could have ever hoped with the likes of Ryan & McCain toeing the progressive line.
Mrs. Smith was firm & gracious in her speech, laying out the facts & her feelings – still raw because it was so preventable & so recent – but since she wasn’t a “big fish” , minority, or Muslim, she don’t count! Remember, WLDM (White Lives Don’t Matter).
Just as an honest aside, Trump doesn’t need to be goaded into saying anything negative, on any subject. He does “fine” coming up with “foot in the mouth” callous and /or insensitive retorts and observations, all on his own. ??
True, but the point is how many times now has Trump been proven correct in his assessment of the situation? Everyone jumps on him, brings up how harsh & mean-spirited he is, but then he’s been shown to be assessing things pretty well… IF one bothers to follow up such as reading Breitbart and not the MSM.
Trump plays Offense, to have the ball, to run to the goal no matter what.
“No matter what” doesn’t cut it. A potential POTUS has to learn diplomacy in language. It may be all fun and games now, but in a true international incident, let’s say, as POTUS, his big mouth might cause retalitory action, that might cause lives to be lost.
He may play “OFFENSE”, but his mouth is causing him to “FUMBLE”.
When the object is winning, offense works quite well. We’ve played the “defense” for 30 years now & we see how that’s gone.
Tell me which recent POTUS has been “successful” at being diplomatic by being “nice” & “diplomatic”!?!
1. FDR kowtowed to Stalin “diplomatically” and we got USSR;
2. Johnson/Nixon “diplomatically” handled VN & China. I lost several buddies because of their kowtowing to “diplomacy”;
3. Korea. Nothing more needs said;
4. Afghanistan/Middle East. Diplomacy has dragged this on for what, 2 decades now?
Simply put, TR was close – Speak softly & carry a big stick – but in today’s world, speaking softly won’t be heard.
Almost every statement that the media & “leadership” has tried to castigate Trump on (ie; Khan) has ended up being proven to Trump’s favor, IF anyone bothers listening after the crap flies.
Trump is a businessman. He’s used to saying something & his underlings jump. That’s what they’re there for. He doesn’t ASK for permission to speak, he doesn’t ASK for a decision to be mulled over or discussed – he ACTS. If he didn’t he’d have lost important deals.
We need someone who’s willing to:
1. Stand up to the Congress, put the RNC/GOP front & center as leaders with gonads;
2. Stand up to all this PC crap. Obama & ilk have taken/allowed this to almost destroy our USA & Constitution;
3. Streamline & limit the Fed Gov as a good businessman can/will. A politician will bow to politics while a businessman will look at the “profit motive” to get the most out of something for the best $$.
4. Make GOOD trade & military alliances that benefit the USA instead of padding others’ pockets; ie; this latest Iran crap & the TPPCA or whatever alphabet deal the O has made;
5. Also to “follow the rules”. Again, instead of the politician figuring out how to skirt the rules (O & ruling by fiat), the POTUS uses the rules to greatest advantage (using Congress to do its’ job so that the POTUS is free to do his!);
6. All leads to accountability. The feds have their responsibilities & we need to get someone in POTUS office to hold all accountable and I think that a major businessman can do just that.
By the way, I was not a Trumpette but now that he’s our candidate, We work with what we’ve got.
Most important – KEEP HILLARY OUT!!!
Thanks for the statements, and also the fact that UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL and will vote for America and Trump. The other side will throw all venom and stupidity, but we should be used to that now and should wake up and remember these things and what we do not want nor need any more. Even now the RINOS are looking for a way to block Trump because it interferes with the big donors that line their pockets. They must all go immediately if not sooner because we are smarter now and will truly vet and control those we hire to represent us. Do you think any company with sales reps out there allow them to take money on the side and betray their company? If they do, it is goodbye and no references! Well, that is what we have to do as well and take away all perks/benefits as well that we did not, as their employers, agree to allow! Many of my latino friends and associates are voting for Trump, ditto blacks, Independents such as I, and even democrat members of my family and other democrats now realizing what is at stake in this election. ALL states MUST IGNORE OBAMA’S JUDGES AND REQUIRE PHOTO IDS. Nothing else works to know if they are legitimate voters, but again the DNC idiots are saying NO! Anyone can go to a DMV (Dept. of Motor Vehicles) and get a photo ID just as mother, a non-driver, did. Everyone we know have IDs, but not all with photos so not good enough. Driver’s license with photos, or even Costco card has your photo. No hardship anywhere here just drivel from those who want illegal voting. NO photo ID, no getting to vote. However, just think of the very many things we do that require a photo ID in today’s world. A crock of you know what to again steal our votes, AND our votes should never, ever again be sent to another country to be counted. That is pure stupidity! We can count our own votes, thank you, Soros!
BS !!! .. Excess diplomacy is what screwed this country up !!! .. DON’T FALL FOR THE DEMS BS !!!
Only politicians use your type of “diplomacy” to lie, obfuscate, rip us off, so we want a non-politician to call it what it is exactly! As president you will see the real man he is and has been for decades. He plays a great game and they bite every time, just like you!
If you think your thinking is right, then why is this country sooo screwed up and ready for another civil war. And do you honestly believe that Obamass hasn’t fumbled about 99% of the time. Nobody fears him, he’s a pantie waste that goes and hides after opening up his big mouth. He got $1,000,000.00 for the Noble Peace Prize and he didn’t even know why. Supposedly for the peace effort of bring back all the troops, which that was another bunch of hot air, but did he give back the money, hell no.
As I understand it the President was awarded the Peace Prize because of his intent to deal with international issues with diplomacy and dignity. Or, as the Novel committee put it in the citation:
Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral
diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role
that the United Nations and other international institutions can play.
Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving
even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world
free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms
control negotiations. Thanks to Obama’s initiative, the USA is now
playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic
challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to
be strengthened.
Good heavens Elizabeth…..you are not only partisan…you’re INSANE. No one should be given any prize for “intent”. Your observations are ludicrous!
I am not partisan – another wild assumption on your part. I am registered to vote with no party affiliation. “intent” was my word. The Nobel Committee were considerably more positive about his actual accomplishments.
Somehow, it seems to me that, when someone resorts to words like ‘insane” and ‘ludicrous’, he does not actually have a counter argument.
Do you want him to be more presidential? Obama has been president for almost 8 years. Is he supposed to act like him. God help us, I hope not.
Total BS !!! .. Being “negative” doesn’t mean being wrong !!! … We’re all negative toward criminals, lifetime welfare/refusing to work, faking way onto S.S.I., homosexuality addiction, etc. !!! .. That doesn’t make us wrong !!! .. Or ‘phobic’ !!!
Yes, he does as great job saying exactly what we want said and done. You don’t like it? Tough. We need a straightforward man of stating truths and a background that is not political and will make America great again. Trump plays a great game by saying what he says and it gets the democrats/ liberals/leftists’ panties in a twist. Now the nuclear thing. Of course, he knows this because he is informed and they bite every time and he gets free air time. The MSM and DNC just never learn, nor do the RINOS and moderates we elected. We should be ashamed of ourselves for allowing this to happen, but WE NOW HAVE THE CHANCE to rectify our mistakes and vote for America and Trump. Trump never speaks “stupidly” but with a purpose. Also, he keeps repeating things because in today’s world if you don’t repeat many, many times the same thing, people don’t get it due to being tied to cellphones, computers, latest gadgets, etc. As a teacher years ago, we were told to repeat everything at leas7 times; today, it somewhere near 30 times.
It’s better than evading the subjects, lying her way through, and degrading every oath and law she has sworn to uphold. And after the bump on the head, I truly don’t think she has the reasoning power to get any thought of her own without being prompted. The only thing she does well is be a smiling bobble head. Don’t forget, everyone says Trump says things off the cuff, Hilary can’t give a press conference because there isn’t a teleprompter in from of her. And even if there is one she can’t follow it and loses her spot. Even in the first debate she got lost for 10 minutes out of confusion and an episode of sorts. My question “is she medically sound to be a president?”
It is not a big deal most of the time before the media gets hold of it and blows it up . He said Mrs. Kahn didn’t say anything and maybe she wasn’t allowed to say anything, which is probably true. Kahn probably did not give her permission to speak. Muslin women do not have the same rights as American women. The media said Trump attacked the mother of a gold star son. He didn’t attack anyone. That’s all he said.
And speaking of “white”, how about that white outfit Hillary wore for her speech. Doesn’t that speak loudly of “WHITE PRIVILEGE” out there?
“JIVE TURKEY” HILLARY “WALL STREET JUNKIE” CLINTON has the Media “EATING” out of her hands! As long as the Millions of Dollars keeps rolling in the Media will always be at her “DISPOSAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
“MONEY TALKS AND BULL S#!T WALKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
“BLOOD SUCKING LEACHES”
The whole DNC show, with the exception of the email scandal, was scripted, choreographed and calculated to achieve a desired goal, that of shifting the spotlight on issues which are advantageous to democrats and away from the fundamental issues which plague the country and for which, to a large extent, liberal, progressive democrats, and others, are responsible, those of basic law and order. Obviously, from the fiasco of the cover-story, and attempted cover-up of the truth of the mission in Libya, whatever the administration was attempting to do, was sensitive and required the use of secure, classified communications to achieve it. Apparently, it was not successful in achieving a desired goal, its operation having been preempted by radical, Islamic terrorists or “a bunch of murderous thugs, out for a night on the town, who decided to kill a bunch of Americans,” to quote or paraphrase the former Secretary of State. At the DNC show, you saw exactly “what difference it made” from a Democratic perspective, at this point in time. The irony of Democratic politics is this. They are purely partisan. Their corruption is justified within the party. No other party is allowed to use the same tactics. “Might makes right.” (You recall, that these same people who were rabid SDS’ers in the 1960s decried the notion that “Might makes right” during the Viet Nam conflict). The law is not absolute and can be obviated if it is deemed to be advantageous. This may work on covert operations, but only successfully, if the knowledge of it and the communications related to it are kept securely classified. So far, the Democrats have proved that, not only are they maliciously corrupt, they are grossly inefficient and inept at keeping secrets.
True… the coverup of the Benghazi fiasco was one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever seen in my 68 years…
You are right, nothing pertinent in policies nor plans from Shillary’s mouth during primaries nor now. Trump has clearly stated his policies and plans and known as a man who gets things done, they will be done! With the democrats/leftists/liberals nothing good ever gets done, only the ripping us off, lying to us, etc. are the only policy/plan they have ever had but it will not work this time because we need a man like Trump in the WH and not a communist with a muslim-loving VP. Read online with photos how Hillary and Kaine took a bus to the rustbelt to pander, but few to none showed up. YEA! Shows the rustbelt has wised up and tired of being raped!
‘they are purely partisan’ This is the crux of the electoral woes this country faces. Full marks for realizing that.
But you get a failing grade if you seriously think that the Republican party is any different.
NO HILLARY…NO HILLARY…NO HILLARY….GO TRUMP & PENCE 2016 MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
This piece of human fecal matter, khan, is just a plant of the demoncraps. His son was no hero, just another unremarkable soldier. demoncraps have no clue what a hero is–their heroes are just people like Trayvonl, Rosa, and the big mentally stunted criminal Michael Brown.
There you go again talking crap! Oh I guess we should expect that if you’re going to be pulling things from your butt to spout! Do you have anything with forethought to debate or just showing off your playground intellect and your familiarity with “fecal matter”?
The media will never revert back to what they were created for
their agenda is Liberalism and they are lying frauds
To allow this administration the complete autonomy they do, refuse to report everything, distort the facts and push an agenda..is criminal..
This is just another example…..
the son was a patriot , his mother and father are a peace of shit ,as for gold star , i’d say gold digger , how much where they paid to say that horse shit, just like ofreako , hillary and the rest of the lying scum , i would like to see them put infront of a firing squad, you want to live like the islamists , then move back to the middle east and fix your own country, instead of coming here and destroying ours
Sharia places women subordinate to men. She has no voice in the matter. He speaks for both.
Definitely they can’t speak, and he also broke a sharia law that says the wife CANNOT sit next to her husband. Pure show, and no go since we now know the whole background of Khan, the con, who wants sharia here and doesn’t even know America is a Republic and NOT a democracy.
if I were Trump I would drag out those mothers that Hillary lied to and put them on the air with me! I have a saying if you want to sling dung, then expect to get hit with it. Hillary and the Marxist elite left all live in one very big glass house, they are nothing but liars and deceivers just as their communist brothers are. They would not know the truth if it slapped him in the face. You know why they don’t like God ,because cause God is about truth and furnace and they don’t even have a clue what truth means.
Well, Trump said he would not hold off during these months, so hang on and let’s have fun. He is going to be entertaining us with shooting down the DNC and candidates and it is about time we had someone with gonads to do it for us and our country. Probably will even be better than Truman (who was know for his forthright speech and getting things done), so let’s go for it, Trump. Knock them dead in the water so we can have our America back and out of filthy, thieving DNC hands!
Trump speaks the truth and the MSM/Democrats/liberals/leftists hate him for it so they have to repeat and repeat and repeat something that is either a twisting of what he says, or leave out part of what he says, and when he responds after being rudely insulted for not having a child killed in a senseless conflict (can’t say war because we, as yet, have not been attacked and accepted those attacks were ISIS/islamis terrorism by any muslim), while Khan’s background is horrible, but that is the way the DNC works – lies, false premises, repetition of stupidity because so many in this country are brain dead, ill-educated with the fed owned (with OUR money) education (a good word if only it were true) systems where students are taught to hate America and blame our country for everything, learn nothing of our history, can’t read, write and now can’t do math because of Common Core, where so many are living on the dole, and since our tax money is running short they now want to take our bank accounts, etc., but that is all okay, but Trump speaking truths and repeating them for the dumber than dirt crowd is WRONG! Sorry, but he is saying exactly what we want said and he will get done what we need to have done – take back our country and allow us to make it Great Again! None of this from the democrats on that, just hatefulness, lies, lack of sincerity and nothing about making America great again. They want to rape America even more and give it over to One World Government/New World Order or in plain parlance COMMUNISM as the goal of the DNC since 1963 and with Shillary being a commie since her late 20’s, she has to be their candidate whether they truly like her or not. Sorry, MSM, just keep writing/repeating your foreign owner’s push for lies, twisting, and how great Hillary is when she isn’t! Sorry for those who will vote for her proving that they hate America, but will find out we were right and they were seriously stupid to vote for communism where they will have no life, nothing but misery. My family knows this by personal experience of having lived under communism! So, some RINOS are going to vote Hillary meaning, as we have known, they were always true Democrats ripping us off for decades while promising us to “get things done”. Well, the baby has yet to be born and we are stupid enough to elect and re-elect these traitors and expect something different. If we really want change, then we have to vote for America and Trump! Go online and learn more of the DEVASTATING LYING Khan (con man is a better name for him), and why again, Hillary put illegals on the stage to speak which is also a felony. Can also find great online material as to what muslims HAVE to believe and do, and Khan is one of them. He is bought and paid for member of the Clintons but that is not disgusting is it to the idiots who will vote for a vagina that was probably sewn shut decades ago. Trump hides nothing; Clintons hide everything and even keep a “hate list” and think about all those “strange murders” connected to them.
Great vent … agreed
politicians are nothing but liars and Crooks and the DNC is selling out America to foreigners if American Patriot citizens don’t wake up and take their country back there will be no more America after this year
Nowhere in the media have they exposed that Khan is a paid … to incorporate Sharia Law into our legal system. Do you understand this would destroy our nation, Christianity, and turn us into a third world country like they are doing in Europe.
We need Trump and dump the tramp.
Hey, You would expect different from those that embrace revisionist history and the Marxist tactic of telling a lie over and over until people start believing it?
Let’s get back on track here.
Trump for the White House. Clinton for the BIG house.
Everyone should realize that GEORGE SOROS own the news media and he has caused many countries to go into bankruptcy. There are contracts out for his life all over Europe, as a mater of fact he has more guards around him than the president has. I might add that he has spend a lot of money trying to take the guns away from honest hard working Americans. I think if Trump is elected Georgie boy will be deported, I hope!!!!
The media coverage is not only unfair to Trump, it’s inaccurate as well. He praised the young soldier who died but simply responded to the Clinton plant father who railed on him during his speech which was obviously written by Democrat operatives. The reason that Trump even mentioned Mrs. Khan not speaking was because perhaps Sharia Law prohibits it and he never did BASH her like the father did Trump. I heard all the speech and it was a very politically motivated one. Mrs. Smith’s speech, on the other hand, was directly aimed at Hillary Clinton because she lied to the faces of grieving parents and failed to respond to security requests which could have prevented the deaths of the Ambassador and those trying to save him including Sean Smith. Trump had no such failure and his call to suspend immigration from Muslim countries where terrorism is active or other countries that have populations of potential terrorists who would do us harm until such time as they can be vetted simply makes sense and should never be politicized. Trump has NEVER said that all Muslims are terrorists but that we don’t have the mechanism to determine accurately who is and who isn’t ….at least for now.
“Democrat operatives” What a very provocative way to refer to speech writers for the Clinton campaign. Obviously there are no operatives in the Trump campaign.
‘perhaps Sharia Law prohibits it’ And perhaps not. Are you sufficiently familiar with Sharia Law to make that determination?
‘politically motivated’ – OMG, something politically motivated at a political convention? Shock horror. Using the other grieving mother to demonize Mrs Clinton is not, of course, politically motivated. How many Benghazi hearings have there been? (eight investigations, 32 hearings and 70,000 pages of documents produced for various committees, according to USA Today – all instigated by Republicans and paid for by the American tax-payer) Surely after such careful scrutiny, her ‘guilt’ would have been proved?
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Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
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Elizabeth: You appear to be misinformed as most liberals are. Mrs. Clinton’s guilt regarding lies regarding the e-mails was proven and confirmed by FBI director Comey. Her lies and those of Obama to all the parents of the Benghazi victims were patently obvious since she told all of them the same fabricated story about the video being to blame for all of the carnage. You may cite liberal talking points until the cows come home but it won’t change the facts. Clinton is a lying, conniving, vile bitch that belongs in the big house not the White House.
Yes, obviously as a liberal (your term, not mine) I am handicapped by only having access to endlessly boring transcripts of hearings, plus equally boring analyses in the press. I do not have the advantage that you have of access to those documents or sources which proved and confirmed her guilt and exposed her lies.
But I am still puzzled why you and the rest of you who are in the know have not succeeded in getting her indicted – for anything.
I am not the least bit surprised by the media ignoring anyone who speaks out against HillyBilly that might make her look bad and the media does not want that. Let me be real clear on how I feel Clinton has sacrificed nothing in Iraq or Afghanistan or any where else for that matter, she has no business that she run, the only thing that Hilly and Billy run is their mouth, what has she done other that besides politics, but she keeps telling her sheep about Trump bankruptcies and how he is making stuff in China that put him ahead of her he tries fails and then tries again, she keeps claiming to love and helps children but does anyone know of anything that does not have a Political connection that she has done. The people that get up on the stage and speak on her behalf are TOOLS put there to push Donald Trumps buttons so he makes some bone head remark that the media then jumps all over it and makes it about something that has very little to do with what Trump is addressing and yes he needs to stop letting HillyBilly push his buttons. So if you are one of those who is appalled by the way he talks and get upset because he may have to clarify what he just said I guess that you really want President HillyBilly and Supreme Court Justice Obama because that is what you are going to have. The so called party leadership has not got the BALLS, HillyBilly has bigger ones than they do, to stand and fight their to busy whining because the STOOGE they want to control did not win the nomination.
And you came up with all that by yourself? Congratulations.
Was there some point to your comment other than sarcasm?
Not really. Sometimes sarcasm is the only way to respond to drivel.
I have posted this on other sites and will continue. Many people have dissed me for doing this but as I say. too Fu**ing bad.
Copied From;Chris Mark
US Marine and Navy Veteran.
Dear Mr. Khan,
I want to preface this letter by stating that I
respect your son’s sacrifice for this great nation. By
all accounts, he is a true hero that sacrificed himself
in service to our country. For that I am thankful.
As a veteran, I watched your comments at the
Democratic National Convention with a mixture of
sadness, and anger. The United States has a military
comprised of volunteers. Every single member has made
the conscious choice to join the military and serve.
There is not a single service member who has been forced
into service. It is
important for all service members (and apparently,
their families) to understand that service to this
great nation does not imbue one with special
privileges or rights. I found your comments troubling
when you said: “Have you ever been to Arlington
cemetery? Go look at the graves of brave patriots who
died defending the United States of America. You will
see all faiths, genders and ethnicities. You have
sacrificed nothing and no one.”
Does it matter whether Mr. Trump has sacrificed
“…nothing and no one?”…has Ms. Clinton “..sacrificed”
for this nation? How about Mr. Obama? Your comment
stating that Mr. Trump “…has sacrifice no one” is
alarming. Are you intimating that YOU sacrificed? Sir,
your son willingly sacrificed himself. As a father I
cannot imagine the pain you must feel but his
sacrifice is his own. He was not forced to serve.
I am troubled that you would allow a party that
has little more than contempt for the US Service
Member to parade you into the DNC to denounce Donald
Trump. Did you watch when protesters at the DNC booed
and heckled Medal of Honor recipient Capt. Florent
Groberg? Did you notice your party interrupting the
moment of silence for slain police officers? Your own
hypocrisy in not denouncing these acts and instead
using the DNC as a platform to make a political point
is disgraceful. The simple fact is that whether one
served or sacrificed does not give greater power to
their statements. One vote is as valuable as another.
That sir, is why our Country is great. Your
condemnation of one person for a statement while
standing idly as your party disparages veterans and
police officers is the height of hypocrisy.
To conflate the need to prevent potential
terrorists from entering our country with the belief
that ‘all Muslims’ should be banned is simply wrong
and disingenuous. As a reminder, Mr. Trump said: ”
“Until we are able to determine and understand this
problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country
cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people
that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of
reason or respect for human life,” The irony of your
son’s own death at the hands of these very people in
Iraq should not be ignored. I have little doubt that
your son would have recognized the need to protect our
country from these very people. In fact, he held is
own troops back so that he could check on a suspicious
car. Your son understood sacrifice and how to protect
“his people”…’his soldiers’….’his fellow Americans’…
As you continue to make the media circuit and bask
in the glow of affection cast upon you by a party that
has little regard for your son’s own sacrifice, and
veterans in general, I would ask you to consider your
comments and your position more closely.
Respectfully,
Chris Mark
US Marine and Navy Veteran.
Ever hear of a fiend named Ahmed Abu Khattala?
Right now; thanks to Loretta Lynch and her DOJ, he is in custody!
The charges?
The murders of Ambassador Stevens and his bodyguards!
Rush Limbaugh CLAIMS to have stand down cables!
Why didn’t he show them to Trey Gowdy?
The movie, the INNOCENCE OF THE MUSLIMS, will be used at his trial.
Khattala will try to use it for his “defense”!
As for Trey Gowdy; what did he NOT know and when did he NOT know it?
The Democraps have a single election strategy — discredit and attack Trump with the willing aid of the major Liberal media. The reason: This devious plot will distract the public from hearing about the failure of the O’Bungle years and the misdeeds of their criminal nominee!
And the Republican strategy? Could it possibly be to discredit and attack Clinton to distract from the woeful lack of presidential qualities shown by your candidate?
Wake up, jackhy, that is what politics is all about.
What you fail to see or understand is that it is not just ‘A’ attacking ‘B’ and the reverse, it is Trump and the RNC trying to publicize what I said about our incompetent POTUS and his desperate failed would-be successor. All she can do is play the gender card, tell lies, and woo her donors to the Clinton foundation scam. Why can’t the voters see this most obvious comparison?
It’s a little presumptuous to think that Trump and the RNC are trying to publicize what you said! You may of course agree with their platform, if you so wish.
What comparison? You don’t like Hillary, I get that. I’m not sure that I do either. But I have yet to be convinced that she is quite the liar that Republicans would like her to be, nor that the Clinton Foundation is a scam. My sources in Africa, particularly South Africa, indicate that the Foundation has been a tremendous force for good in the fight against AIDS.
What’s strange about it ? it simply don’t fit their agenda.!!!!
Amazing, his son fights and dies for America while khan tries to destroy America..
A four day echo chamber by the NOT FOX liberal media. The democRAT parties answer to Pravda.
MUSLIMS HAVE BEEN BANNED BY LAW SINCE 1952 FROM LIVING IN THIS COUNTRY, THOMAS JEFFERSON WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT BANNED THEM.
I AM A KOREAN WAR VET AND BEFORE I SYPATHIZE WITH ANYONE, I MUST KNOW THE BACKGROUND OF THE PERSON KILLED. I HAVE SEEN GUYS IN KOREA THAT IF THEY HAD BEEN KILLED AT THE TIME, I WOULD NOT HAVE CALLED THEM A HERO AND THEY WERE WHITE PEOPLE.
IF THE CAPTAIN WAS A MUSLIM OPERATING UNDER SHEREE LAW I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HIS MOTIVE.
I KNOW WHAT THE MUSLIM MAJORS SYMPTHY WAS AND HE IS STILL ALIVE. WHY. YOU KNOW FOLKS THEIR CAN BE WOLFS IN SHEEPS CLOTHING. THIS HAPPENED IN 2004 WHY THROW THIS INTO THIS ELECTION, IT GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT MUSLIMS WILL STRAP EXPLOSIVES ON THEIR BOY TO KILL OTHERS. IT IS TIME TO FORCE HAUN OUT OF THE PITCHURE AND TO QUIT SPREADING HIS POISION HE DOES NOT FOLLOW OUR LAWS AND THEREFORE HAS NO RIGHTS.
It’s here in my house for sure its hung over the toilet in my shit HOUSE yep it’s here your right
Sharia Khan man is a highly paid by taxpayers human trafficker of muslimes into the USA
It’s a SHAME the press doesn’t bring this out, and also the shallowness of the BENGHAZI RAID on our AMERICANS. I’m sorry this man lost his son, however, to sell your soul out to sharia law should have overwhelmed the ears of the press and gone after that statement with a fine tooth comb. What the hell is going on here? All I see is more and more of the same out CRAP the bozo in the WH is pouring forth. I know killeray doesn’t like AMERICA much less ISREAL, especially when she kissed that man with the do-rag on his head that looked as if he had been beaten with a ugly stick ten ways to none, I can’t remember his name! I’m fed up with PITY PARTY MUSLIMS who have RUN from their country with their tails between their legs instead of fighting for themselves!!! Killery didn’t care about the AMERICANS in BENGHAZI, do you think she evens cares about the lives of the men and women we lost in IRAQ, or even now as the bozo administration calls the rules of engagement in Afghanistan, or how about the buzzing of our military ships by the Russians, not to even list the parts of our coast lines that have been buzzed by them as well? WHAT, we have to do the LOVE and COMPASSION number??? Well, I’m over that CRAP! This bozo is allowing 10,000 more in this country by the end of Sept., he has just released another 200+ prisoners, he let out over 67,000 ILLEGAL FELONS onto OUR streets and doesn’t even know where the HELL they are. He hates our COPS, he builds up RADICAL GROUPS, he refuses to call TERRORISM, TERRORISM, and more thing to point to the fact that he is not an AMERICAN! So, question, DO YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE SAFE!!!!!!
Of course this was choreographed, and of course this was biased reporting as usual. Both families should be more upset with Bush, Obama, and Hillary since they are the ones who got us involved in these senseless wars, and have kept us involved. Trump has been a private business man, so has nothing to do with the deaths of any of these soldiers. Ridiculous that this Khan family would be so upset with him, but not as upset with Hillary, Obama, and Bush. This needs to be a lesson to Trump that the Hillary team will use these set ups to try to lure you in so they can keep up the distractions from all of their corruption, like paying $400 million in ransom to Iran for the return of 4 Americans being held in Iran. We definitely need to spend more time investigating the stories that matter rather than these useless distractions.
What would your reaction have been if you had learned that the US had paid millions of dollars to Libya to prevent the attack in Benghazi? Just asking.
The way Obama does business, I doubt he read the constitution. He has gone against everything it represents.
Perhaps. But could you be a bit more specific?
I am quite sure Obama has read the Constitution. Did he not spend some years as a constitutional lawyer?
How has he gone against the Constitution? I seem to have missed that.
Tough shit Muslim Mr, Khan. Take killer Hillary and the rest of your Sharia jerk offs and go back where you came from. You are not wanted in the USA. Get out. All of you.
You can only trust the press for one thing, they will rally against any non liberal, non socialist who advocates conservative views. And that’s the only thing you can trust them for.
Just remember that Khan is a lawyer and works to get wealthy muslims visas which cost around $500,000. each so he had a reason to pick on Trump for his stand on muslim refugees. The man is scum so what about Killery calling the mother of a son that was murdered in Benghazi a liar for questioning her on why the four Americans were murdered in Benghazi?
The difference between the media’s handling of Khan and Smith is easily explained. They are no longer journalists who report the news, but propaganda machines supporting the Clinton crime family and the Obama Marxist administration.
Check out Dearborn, Michigan, a system of justice derived from the Koran, has gained a foothold on American soil. Yeah, 4 out of 7 councilors enacted Sharia Law in Dearborn. North America is a Judea-Christian based continent…..not anymore. Another thing, Michelle Obama is a man and Barack is gay man, even though it’s against Muslim laws. Why do you think Barack is bringing in more Muslims, at his discretion, to make North America with Sharia law. I’m not prejudice….I have a color tv. GO TRUMP GO!!
I have been saying this for sometime, Barney. Dearborn, MI has NO RIGHT establishing sharia law in our country. NO RIGHT!! Sharia law goes quite contrary to our Constitution, and for this administration to ALLOW this to go on, shows me that this administration is the TROJAN HORSE looking to take down America incrementally with this kind of crap. They even tried this crap down in Texas not too long ago. I think it was voted down. Sharia law must be stopped or it will come down to civil unrest, possibly another civil war here in our own country. I don’t mind Muslims worshipping their false god, but to come into our country and not adhere to our customs and values, it must be stopped. They are not, nor will they ever be patriotic citizens. They insist on their own law of sharia and snub their collective noses at our laws. That in itself is UNLAWFUL and should be punished. The democrats and the media are responsible for allowing this insurgency to take a foothold here and it MUST BE STOPPED!!! They are this country’s enemy. Vote all democrats out of office and start to hold the media responsible for their biased stranglehold on the truth.
See my rely to Barney.
Franie, I’m from Canada, and want to say that I DO NOT believe in that stupid Sharia law. IT’S ALREADY THERE in Dearborn, Michigan!! You didn’t check that out???? 4 out of 7 Councilors,(aldermen), are Muslims in Dearborn. They voted for that sharia law. And as far as you ‘don’t mind muslims worshipping Allah’; All Muslims and Islams think Allah is greater than God…the Christian God. BTW, He is my Faith. Go to ‘TheClarionProject.com’, then type, American Muslims Stone Christians in Dearborn, Michigan. Wait til the 9:30 minute mark. You’ll see how ‘Peaceful’ they really are. I’m talking Muslim children stoning Christians! Within 1 year, there WILL be religious wars here in North America. For all the Muslims reading this, your Muhammad is a pedopohile and gives no rights to women…FACT! “God is better than Allah”, in my book, He forgives sinners. You wouldn’t believe how many Muslims Obama brought into the USA without any documents proving their identity.
I hope this clears things up Franie, “I’m not prejudice, I have a color tv.”
Perhaps you should check our Dearborn, Michigan. http://www.cityofdearborn.org/news-and-events/city-news/116-satirical-website-makes-up-article-on-sharia-law-for-humor-but-city-of-dearborn-is-not-amused-by-falsehood-sets-record-straight.
Perhaps you should check out!!
Check out what?
The media is so biased than anything I have ever seen. Ms Smith’s only son was in Benghasi and she deserves to have the same or more attention shown to her that Mr Kahn who is an idiot scumbag for getting up and speaking about his son who was killed and he had no business getting on TV talking to Donald Trump the way he did. The thing about it is Mr Kahn is an attorney who was paid and has never had the Constitution in his pocket and only put it in his pocket when he started up on the stage to speak for Crooked and Lying Hillary. Another thing his wife was not allowed to speak like the other Shari Law Muslims do. He is affliated with Saudi Arabia and is in coohoots with the Clinton Foundation. Mr Kahn is one of the worse people to have gotten on stage to try to promote the Muslims and Shari Law. I have no use for this man and I know his son would have turned over in his grave when his father got up and spoke for Hillary. He probably didn’t even care that his son got killed. The rest of them doesn’t care when their sons blow up themselves,which the fathers encourage.
One should not make assumptions, but the level of your English is so bad that i am going to make one anyway: either English is not your mother tongue, or else you left school at a very young age. I’ll go with the latter.
If Hillary Clinton had told Ms Smith that she, Hillary, had made as many sacrifices as Ms Smith’s son, even the biased media would have given the exchange as much coverage as they gave Mr. Khan. As it is, the media were covering Trump’s response more than they were the Convention speech. As usual, Trump managed to get all the attention.
But even Trump didn’t go as far as to say ” I have no use for this man and I KNOW his son would have turned over in his grave when his father got up and spoke for Hillary” and that he probably didn’t even care that his son was killed. You know nothing of the sort, and I find your remarks despicable.
I beg your pardon Ms Radical you are no better than the rest of the idiot radical Dems. Further more I have probably more education than you have and my English is probably three times better than yours. I have a letter about Mr Kahn and everything I said was true and it told exactly what type of person he is and he is an attorney who is affiliated with Saudi Arabia and the Clinton Foundation and if a radical like you who wants to read it I will send it to you. You probably don’t want to read it because no matter what is said won’t change your mind at all. I didn’t say one thing about the son except he would turn over in his grave by hearing what his dad said. This man had no business jumping Trump and saying all he said and he didn’t have the Constitution in his pocket until he started up on the stage. He is a Sharia Law Muslim and his wife isn’t suppose to speak at all and you could tell that by looking at her and I even knew that after reading the letter I got. I could care less about Hillary, “so what difference does it make”. I have no use for people who did what he did by trying to make Hillary look good. I didn’t say I hated the man so what business is it of yours to but yourself in. You have your head in the sand and are blind and can’t see what is happening. I will not have another conversation with you because I will not argue any further with you about this situation, so lets end it here.
It would be futile to go through your rant and point out the several places in which your English is not better than mine, but I must mention one of my pet peeves: I could care less. What you really mean is I could NOT care less. To say I could care less means that you care to a certain extent, but there are other things that are less important to you. I could NOT care less means that this is the least significant matter to cross your horizon.
Incidentally, I didn’t say that you said you hated this man.
When Hillary Clinton trotted Mr.Khan out on that stage, she showed the whole country there are no depths to how far she will descend to win the presidency. When the air clears – it may develop that she hurt herself a lot more by doing this than she helped herself. She should have known that Mr. Khan would be investigated and when the truth came out that he was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, that he supports Sharia Law, that he sells American Visas to wealthy foreigners wanting to come to this country, and last but not least, his ties to the Clinton Foundation, he would loose some support for his grief. I feel much worse for Patricia Smith, who has been treated terribly by Hillary Clinton and the press.
It’s inconceivable that the Clinton campaign did not do their own investigation of Mr Khan before asking him to speak. That they did not discover he was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood is just possibly because he is not.
He should have shut his big mouth!
Rosech Levy: I pray you are correct. Jonah 3:10. LORD grant us the wisdom to change our faults we have perpetuated and again restore us and our Country.
Jonah knew about the plight of the United States? I’m impressed.
Sharia Khan man traffics Muslims into the USA on taxpayer money laundered through Clinton foundation. Its a factoid not reported on this family..
Hillary killed the Benghazi patriots by designed negligence! Now shuns them as not remembering what SHE SAID! All the while this murdering narcissistic mafia mama poses as not holding a GRUDGE AGAINST THE FAMILIES OF HER VICTIMS! Maybe Hitler had such fond compassion for his victims FAMILIES! Monsters!
You are the one that used the word factoid (A piece of unverified or inaccurate information that is presented in the
press as factual, often as part of a publicity effort, and that is then
accepted as true because of frequent repetition).
The media is liberal !
As indeed it should be in the sense of liberal meaning ‘not opposed to new ideas or ways of behaving that are not traditional or widely accepted’. Or to put it another way, the media should be open minded and unbiased.
Benghazi 4 great people killed 9 investigation of Clinton. . George W Bush 10 attacks on US Consulates and Embassy’s 60 wonderful people killed. 0 investigations. Bill Clinton handed Bush 9 hundred million surplus. Bush turned it into 11 trillion deficit. Plus the worst rescission since 1929. The Republican has not been good for the USA for the past 50 years. Maybe on of these years the people of the USA will STOP VOTING AGAINST THEMSELVES
Mrs Smith had such a wonderful loyal and brave son. It is such a tragedy and Hillary did kill those 4 men to cover up her actions in Benghazi…She stirred up a hornets nest in Libya and took money for herself all over the world and sold Russian our product. Did she pocket the money herself. We need trials for all the corrupt politicians that have been feathering their nests too long…I stand with Mrs Smith. I too lost a son but not in the service of this country. I send he much consolation. Nothing will help until Hillary pays for that crime…How sad for Mrs Smith.Can we have a facebook page with her to stand strongly with her on the awfulness of Hillary the murderer?
Of course they are silent most of them are in bed with the clintons. I sometimes even believe certain Fox news people are anti Trump. They have a special way of phrasing statements making positive statements questionable. Its going to take a supreme movement by the AMERICAN voter to overcome the political propaganda spewed out by the clinton press as well as all the voter fraud connected with the Dumocrats.
And what does that say to you about Trump? If even the Fox network finds it hard to support him, is he really someone we want as President?
My goodness, just do some research on Mr Kahn…he is dedicated to Sharia law. It is documented. This man is a pawn of the Hillary campaign and liberal media. The media can research this just like I did, but they won’t. All they do is destroy any truth to fit their own agenda.
I would be ashamed to be involved in the liberal media. The media should be fair and unbiased and they are now considered to be the lowest of Americans.
Trump campaign is not focusing like many of these commenters easy/damaging counterpoints…WHY?
Ofcousre the liberal and regressive media is ignoring Seans mother because well over 95% of the TV, written and radio media is owned by neo-communosocialistic people who would rather have America be fascist than capitalists and Seans mother doesn’t represent their twisted ideals. I also hold her accountable for the death od Sean and I had a friend die there to. Hillary was the highest ranking official actually in the white house ready room or oval office at the very tiem the attack was happening, She fumbled and faltered, she blamed a video that had nothing to do with the attack and just a note, the guy who made the video was vindicated so why is he still in jail?, she couldn’t decide what the people who could get there to help should wear, she didn’t just say get there and help like she should have and thankfully Sean, whom I actually may know from the time I worked in the dining facility at the SWC training center, was the right guy for the job, he got sick of waiting for the buracracy and Hillary specifically and after being told to stand down he and the other true heroes said BS, and went to battle to save our other people. Just a note Hillary knew for weeks that something was coming because all of the other countries had abandon their embassies and told the state department they needed to leave to. It has been suggested by some that this was Hillaries way of getting rid of our state department ambassador J. Christopher Stevens because many thought he might actually be the only person who could possibly end much of the mess in Syria, Lybya and much of the middle east because he had that kind of trust built up with tall of the pundants involved. This would have made him not only the Noble peace prize recipient but he would have been a true contender in any presidential race if he ever came home and she could not afford that. She couldn’t fight a hero because she is a zero. She refused to heed the warnings of other countries state or foreign affairs departments and left them in an almost impossible predicament. Pretty suspicious for such a politically powerful and knowledgable person don’t you think.
Hillary was also dismissive to all of the families of the benghazi attack when they kept asking for the truth and still can not be honest about it because she doesn’t have an honest bone in he rbody but she also knows if she does she will loose the presidential nomination. Only a psycho or a fool would vote for her the only problem I have with the election now is that Trump is only nicroscopically better and NEITHER AND I MEAN NEITHER are fit to be president. We all need to tell the government and these parties that this is not acceptable and demand new candidates and not allow Obama to pass any laws while he is still in office because he wants to finish his destruction.
Where is Guccifer? The Romanian HACKER extradited. Subpoena him as a witneas for benghazi moms law suit!