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On Russian Hacking, The Evidence is Thin
Posted On 02 Jan 2017
If you listen to the mainstream media, you would think that there is as much evidence to prove Russia’s involvement in hacking the Democratic National Committee as there is to prove the color of the sky. In their coverage of this controversial issue, the press has made Donald Trump out to be an idiot, a Russian puppet, or both. To them, there is not the slightest doubt in the world that Vladimir Putin’s cyberthugs changed the course of American history.
But saying a thing doesn’t make it so. And “Obama says” is not what we typically call evidence.
Last week, President Obama issued tough sanctions against many Russian agencies and kicked 35 of Putin’s diplomats out of the United States in retaliation for the supposed hacks. In reporting this announcement, many in the press lied to their readers and said the sanctions were accompanied by a release of new evidence connecting Moscow to the crimes. This didn’t happen.
It’s true that the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security released a joint report on the hacks, but that report was not exactly filled with convincing evidence. Much of it, indeed, was taken up by assertions, innuendo, and assumptions. The rest of it was centered around recommendations to network administrators, telling them how they can protect their servers from cyber-theft.
In making claims against Russia, many in the media have relied on reports from the private security firm, CrowdStrike. The idea is that we can trust CrowdStrike’s findings since the company has no political motivation to fudge the truth. Well, that may be true, but they certainly have a financial motivation. They are only involved in this investigation because the DNC paid them. Are we certain enough about their purity to stake international relations on their claims?
Furthermore, the media is pointedly ignoring the many former U.S. intelligence experts who have said it is very unlikely that Russian actors could have been behind the attacks. In an op-ed piece, several former intelligence leaders said that the National Security Agency would not have missed this intrusion.
“The bottom line is that the NSA would know where and how any ‘hacked’ emails from the DNC, HRC or any other servers were routed through the network,” the experts wrote in December. “The various ways in which usually anonymous spokespeople for U.S. intelligence agencies are equivocating – saying things like ‘our best guess’ or ‘our opinion’ or ‘our estimate’ etc. – shows that the emails alleged to have been ‘hacked’ cannot be traced across the network. Given NSA’s extensive trace capability, we conclude that DNC and HRC servers alleged to have been hacked were, in fact, not hacked.
Perhaps those experts are wrong. Perhaps the Obama administration is right. Maybe Russia did hack the DNC and John Podesta in an attempt to get Trump elected.
But we’ve seen how faulty intelligence can lead to disastrous outcomes. The media needs to do its job. Blindly carrying water for the Obama administration isn’t it.
Kill the messenger because they exposed the truth!
Correct me if I’m wrong. A friend told me that the wikileaks guy was on Hanity. I flipped over and watched a few minutes. The wikileaks guy said the Russians had nothing to do with the leaks. He also said it was not a hack either. It was a Democrat insider that gave them all those emails. They didn’t hack them, they were given to them and the Russians had nothing to do with it at all. Am I missing something here? The wikileaks guy who made the stuff public should know where they came from, right???
Just checking.
Julian Assange was the publisher not the messenger. Julian Assange would never expose him.
Anyway, the wikileaks source of the DNC leak was most likely murdered.
WOW! BREAKING=> Julian Assange Suggests Seth Rich – Who Was MURDERED in DC – Was Wikileaks DNC Source! – Jim Hoft Aug 9th, 2016
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/wow-breaking-video-julian-assange-suggests-seth-rich-wikileaks-dnc-source-shot-dead-dc/
On July 8, 2016, 27 year-old Democratic staffer Seth Conrad Rich was murdered in Washington DC. The killer or killers took nothing from their victim, leaving behind his wallet, watch and phone.
Shortly after the killing, Redditors and social media users were pursuing a “lead” saying that Rich was en route to the FBI the morning of his murder, apparently intending to speak to special agents about an “ongoing court case” possibly involving the Clinton family.
>> Arkancide << is still with us.
Yea, he made them public but he also got them from a DNC insider, not Russia, from what I’ve read/heard elsewhere. It is the Russia part that I wasn’t clear about. Since I posted the comment above, Hannity has interviewed Assange again and I got to see more of it. Assange said the Russians had nothing to do with the leaks point blank. From what I’ve read, not sure how true it is, Assange has said somewhere that it was a DNC insider that sent the emails to him. That tends to go along with what you say in your post.
What I don’t get is this. Now that this has been known for a good while, why is the Govt and most of the media still claiming the Russians did this? If Assange said the Russians had nothing to do with it, I’d tend to believe him over Obama and the rest. One thing about wikileaks, they have never had to retract anything they released. Heck, even the Hillary folks are not disputing the emails that were released, they just trying to discredit the messenger. It’s that Alinsky (sp?) guy again.
I would think that Assange knows where the emails came from, and most likely all the hands it went through to get to him. If he says the Russians were not involved, then the Russians had nothing to do with it. That’s becoming quite clear.
Arkancide. People around the Clintons do seem to get infected quite often, and suddenly at times. Might be airborne or something. lol
Oh, you may want to watch Hannity tonight. He’s supposed to have a interview with Assange himself. I plan to watch it even tho I don’t watch Fox a lot anymore. I hope you see this before then. If not, youtube should have it shortly. I’m sure someone will “borrow” it and upload it.
Russia and the leaked emails have nothing to do with each other. This is politics, plain and simple. The obomanation administration is trying to link Donald Trump to Russia to delegitimizate him as a valid U.S. President. Since everything else they threw at Donald Trump failed (name calling racist, xenophobe, threatting to kill electors if they vote for Trump, etc) they are trying a different tactic. They are trying to brainwash people into thinking that anything Donald Trump does as president he will be doing it for Putin. They are laying the ground work to put road blocks in place even before he does anything. This will make it easier (if people buy into the lies) to stop Trump from doing anything. This is nothing more than a game to these political idiots, and unfortunately the only losers in this game are the non-establishment, non-elites (ie. you and me). These people are crazy and are willing to gamble with your life just to get what they want.
That’s what I keep reading but when you watch anything on TV, they claim otherwise. It seems the lying media, including Fox, needs to catch up to the facts. As I posted in one of my comments, if Assange says Russia had nothing to do with the emails, I believe him. I’m certainly not going to believe the lying Dems and/or media. It just seems that at some point, the media is going to have to start talking about the true facts. Then again, why should they start now?? :/
What you are describing is the Alinsky tactic. They can’t dispute the content of the emails. Since they can’t do that, blame the messenger, or who they want the messenger to be at least. You have a good point on that. While we have some differences with Russia, we do have at least one common enemy, ISIS and islam in general. On that, maybe Trump can work with Putin and use that as leverage with other issues as well.
I found the points Assange made about politics in general very interesting. He’s not the bad guy some, including Hannity, made him out to be.
Ya…I see it on all of them. Yahoo, CNN & all.
I’m watching Assange. He said clearly that the Russians were not involved in this at all. Not only was it not Russia, it was also not any other State group, which would include China and any other Govt agency. So, that narrows it down a lot. That DNC insider is sounding more likely. 😉
Assange is also explaining how to interpret what Obama is saying and the words Obama uses. He’s using words in a lawyer way not the everyday use of the terms. In other words, Obama is a car salesman and his lips are flapping. lol
“Lawyer way” go fuck yourself idiot !
I for 1don’t need the language, secondly try to wake up and actuality think for a change!
That is not the Democrat modus operandi.
You sniffed glue when you were a kid, didn’t you, borris? Guarantee you that’s what limited your vocabulary!
Did I say that is an Alinsky tactic?
You go first. You’re probably the only person that would any way. ROFL
dalek, if obama’s lips are moving you can bet he’s lying!
Lots of the stuff wikileaks gets they get anonymously. I don’t think Assange knows for sure who the true source is.
My take on Assange, he is VERY careful. I don’t think he would release any info unless he knew it was 100% legit. If I’m right on that, then I bet he knows exactly who it came from. That’s one sure way to know that everything is accurate. After all, he said himself that the reason people come to him, he doesn’t reveal sources.
Check out this Fox News link where Hannity talks more about the interview. Apparently Assange got the info from someone who handed it off in a wooded area in Washington D.C., but Assange could provide no more information than that. Nothing about a Democrat. I believe the e-mails too, the issue is who is the source.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/03/assange-russian-government-not-source-wikileaks-emails.html
Assange when asked, said point blank that Russia had nothing to do with the leaks. I believe him because he has yet to be caught in a single lie. If he says the Russians had nothing to do with it, then they didn’t. The part about a Democrat giving it to him was from someone else not Assange. That was talked about last night too.
He may have been assassinated already in a botched (?) robbery.
Hannity is an absolute asshole; just like you !
Another know nothing, name calling liberal. You resort to name calling because you have nothing else.
Name calling and profanity—
AKA the refuge of the intellectually challenged and Liberals…
Oh, sorry…that’s redundant…!
Still on the Alinsky train? Obama would make you a Hero of the people.
hmmm Boris? Hannity used to work construction, maybe we could interest you in a cage match?
I’ve noticed (for numerous decades) that a lot of millennials & similar don’t know better than cursing. They will get a lot further by just using sarcasm.
Boris, you are, like David Nickles said, you are intellectually challenged.and a liberal……..REDUNDANT…..!!!!!!!!
You are correct. The Obama administration is blowing smoke to cover up Clinton’s corruption.
As of yet nobody’s come out with anything saying that the leaked information isn’t true.
But you know that Assange is a mortal enemy of the left and especially George Soros therefore they will try to do their usual demonizing of him. The more lies they tell the more appreciative I am of Assange and Wikileakes. He is more of an American patriot than every democRat in the country. tdf
Even a long time ago, I had mixed feelings on the guy. One, I’d never really saw him talk about what he was doing before. Second, he did break the law but because of number one, I wasn’t real sure why. Sometimes people do bad things for a good reason. After seeing him talk on Hannity and a couple other videos, I think he wants the people to know the truth about our Govt and the corrupt people in it, no matter which party it comes from. I notice Hannity mentioned that last night too.
It was a interesting interview to me.
Totally correct. The MSM does not & WILL NOT print the truth. JULIAN ASSANGE tells the truth & has a 20 year perfect record of such truth telling. I have followed the ELECTIONS SINCE DAY 1 & I have never voted in all my 72 years but I knew that we needed something different than a TYPICAL POLITICIAN since I have never known one to tell the truth & fulfill his promises. The DONALD was a breath of fresh air & I liked what he was saying & how he was saying it. His speeches were not scripted, he wasn’t fed the DEBATE QUESTIONS & at times I winced at some of the things he said but low & behold, everytime I thought he might be Telling a FALLACY, 3-4 weeks later what he said turned out to be true. To make matters better he was able to proove his innocense time & again. My family had been DEMOCRATS all their life & voted total DEMOCRAT TICKETS. To me that did not seem the way to elect a PUBLIC SERVANT so I researched both candidates & I was only impressed with TRUMP mostly because he was a real people person that has a BIG HEART (I know 5 true hero stories of him that you never hear about because when he did the heroic deeds, HE NEVER ONCE TOOTED HIS OWN HORN). My final clincher to vote for him was because he was a SELF-MADE-MAN, much like myself, except my success was on a smaller scale & I felt that AMERICA NEEDED CHANGE, BADLY & I felt that anybody would be an improvement over the last several POTUS’S. iF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SOME OF THE STORIES JUST ASK ME.
the proof about the false sexual accusations from the HRC Camp
OOPS, pardon my blunder but the”proof about the false sexual accusations from the HRC CAMP was erroneously omitted from the previous re4sponse.
Seth Rich was the guy and he is dead
SETH RICH WAS WITH HILLARY IN THE DNC many think it was seth rich who leaked info to Wikileaks, also eric blackerman who is now reported missing by his family he was with dnc, asssage said all along it came from the dnc not Russia, a young man life taken because he dared to expose Hillary, his parents are offering 20,000 for info leading to his killers death.. seth rich is an american hero same is Julian assange an hero for they saved america from demise, from corrupt lying hillary being elected
Anything out of Obozo’s mouth is, by definition a LIE! This is about as credible as “If you like your Dr. you can Keep your Dr.” More false flags and fabricated hysteria from the MSM and the freaking, anti-American democrats. So sick and tired of this. I’ll be dancing in the street on Jan. 20th! Take America Back #MAGA
Go fuck yourself Connie Alsip !
well thought out, extremely intelligent reply (insert dripping with sarcasm icon here)
Back at you Boris, what part of Connie’s statement isn’t true. Keep drinking that koolaide.
Boris, your lies don’t work here, where most of the respondent’s knows that you are nothing but a TROLL, OBAMA IS THE BIGGEST LAIR IN HISTORY, not to mention he is a FRAUD, a Muslim insider, who has done NOTHING GOOD for this Country, but throw this country down the toilet. IT WILL BE THE GREATEST DAY ON EARTH WHEN DONALD TRUMP IS SWORN IN AS THE REAL PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
so true God sent trump to save america, had Hillary won, soon Russia and other nations blown us off the map, other nations did not trust lying corrupt Hillary nor Obama, GOD BLESSED AMERICA ONE LAST TIME, LETS TAKE BACK OUR AMERICA WE LOST UNDER MUSLIM OBAMA
Suck it up, buttercup! We won…..you lost! Go Connie!!
Another Alinsky tactic, attack the person.
anything is better than obamaa fu—–us.
Loser.
Make a fist … stick out your thumb … now go sit in the corner and insert that thumb in your anus … play sit and spin for a few hours … that should put a smile on your sorry LibRat face !
Go fuck yourself Boris you damocrap…
Typical response of a defeated Liberal.
Trusted Nixon?
Right on Connie…
“Anything out of Obozo’s mouth is, by definition a LIE!”
What you said proves you are not interested in the truth. YOU are lying and its obvious.
I’m sure a lot of fireworks will be used 1-20-2017. ???
Yeah Obama can’t wait until this unqualified A$$hole leaves and takes his stupid family and homies with him. The funny thing about his Presidency is that everyone thought crazy uncle joe Biden was the joke and the idiot turns out it was both of them.
As in this story the drive by media gets it all wrong as usual. They report than check the facts, no wait they just report whatever they here. That’s right they do not check any facts. Most of us know that when a story comes out of the liberal media, not to take it for what it is worth. Which is nothing!!!!
The source for the Russian hacking info is not the “liberal” media. It is the CIA. John Brennan was interviewed on the PBS News Hour last night and he said all will become clear in the report coming out next week (that Obama requested). He seemed to suggest that the Russians are behind this. Also check out this link, which is clear about who the Russian actors are:
https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/
Assange said on Fox that the source is not the Russian government and it is not a state party. It could be what would appear to be a rogue Russian actor, but how would Assange know that the actor is not actually working for the Russian government? He DOES NOT say it was a rogue Democrat. Remember that Assange is hiding in a foreign embassy in London to avoid extradition to the U.S., so clearly he has a bone to pick with the U.S. Lots of the stuff wikileaks gets they get anonymously. I don’t think he knows who the source is.
Assange never reveals his source. In fact, the source came forward when this Russia thing got going, and Assange was not happy about it. A man named Craig Murray, a UK former ambassador, said he got it from a Clinton insider who had access to the emails, and Craig Murray hand carried it to Wikileaks.
What is your source for that information?
Quite a following! These Putin Reps ! So, finally Putin has his own political party in America !
Wake up America. People are feeding info to wikileaks because they are afraid of our own government. There are elements in our government that would harm this country. Beware.
Exactly why Eric Snowden left the country. He knew that if he became a whistle blower he would end up on a suicide watch list. He knew that what he had discovered was a violation of our right to privacy and he wanted to make Americans aware of what was going on, but he knew he would pay a huge price. It’s why he’s in Russia today! Julian Assange is at the Ecuadorian Embassy in Britain for the exact same reason. There are people on the ‘left’ who would think nothing about having these guys ‘waxed’!! Liberalism is a disease!!!
They would have been found dead by committing suicide with a bullet in the back of the head and no gun in the area.
Exactly right!!!!
Another notch on Hillary’s gun.
true the man who wrote a book and exposed Hillary for her crimes and connections to pizzagate, child trafficking, spirit cooking, and satanic rituals ended up shot in back of head and the police under Hillary orders called it suicide. Hillary lost the election because Wikileaks exposed her crimes and if she could Julian would die also, so many body bags connected with the Clinton seems it is a danger to have Clinton near the white house, will she try same on trump? i never realized there was so much corruption in the white house till now
I wonder if the fire sprinklers work well at the embassy where Assange is? I’d be trying to test them if it was me. Building could catch fire or something. o_O
julian is very aware Hillary, Kerry Obama wants to kill him, so is rest of the world also aware, it was kerry who went to the embassy forced them to cut off Julian internet to shut him up look it up….but i have a real feeling someone from usa is highly having julian protected in fact do doubt julian is even at the embassy anymore, he will be known as a great hero to america after jan 20th, and pardoned, the leaks are not over with yet just holding off till 20th
Hannity said he was still in the embassy last night. Hannity was sitting right across the room from him. He’s still there. He can’t leave because the Brits will arrest him if he steps his foot out the door, pretty much said that the other night.
Assange better be careful. He may commit suicide even if he wants to live another 50 or 60 years. 😉
Well I am one of many that did not pay attention to WikiLeaks , many of us did not want to see Bill Clinton in the WH again. Their combined history was a turn off just like Obama and Moochellee.
He would have died like Seth Rich…. botched robbery attempt!!
I dont believe Snowden broke the law. He told us that the program authorized by congress was being implemented to the fullest extent possible- NSA is doing surveillance of every telephone call and every email in the united states.
Everything he told the press was already publicized and i assumed the worst- that NSA computers were analyzing very phone call for signs of terrorism before Snowden publicized his story.
He should be pardoned.
of course Hillary Obama, Kerry Biden podesta, do not want the real truth to come out about their many crimes.so they body bag the messengers such as seth rich of Hillary dnc, a young mans life taken because he leaked info to Wikileaks as did Eric blackerman of dnc who is missing.THE MEASURES Hillary obana has went to cover up their treason, crimes, and involvement with pizzagate and child trafficking anyone who exposes the truth will end up in a bodyguard that is why Julian assange is in great danger from podesta, Obama and Hillary, he exposed their crimes
What we need to do if offer Hillary’s henchman full immunity, 1 million dollars and witness protection (if that’s even possible) to spill the beans.
LARRY NICHOLS ADMITTED TO killing many people for the Clinton, he was for years their hitmani watched the video and now question why were there not arrests,there is no statue of limitations on murder, Seth rick and eric braverman both worked for Hillary at dnc both gave inside info to Wikileaks Seth rich july 2016 was sot in the back killed, eric is missing, look this info up,,, #SethRich #EricBraverman , Monica Peterson was investigating into the child trafficking and Clinton and she was murdered in Haiti, judge scalie supreme court judge found out about pizzagate, was killed in Texas at a ranch outside of Houston tx seems someone smothered him to death with pillow, LOOK UP WORK MENA in ark this was drug trafficking Clinton involved in, in fact tom cruise will be making a movie called mena about the Clinton involved in biggest drug bust in america in 80’s i did a research on Clinton will raise the hair on your neck to follow the long list of body-bags
It’s not just Liberalism anymore, it’s all out globalism which is far worse than Communism or Fascism.
You are absolutely right, Barbara….. it is all about globalism! New World Order!!!
Totally true. AMERICA is soon to be totally under SHARIA LAW & their RELIGION dictates, “IF THEY CANNOT CONVERT YOU, THEY WILL KILL YOU”
Islam is not a
religion; it is a political movement that aims to replace our set of laws and
values with those of a foreign ideology, by subterfuge, or by force if necessary. It is a clear
and present danger to the security of the United States. As such, Islam should
be considered as organized sedition, and not afforded the rights normally given
to religions. Excise the cancer
islam goes all way back to when cain killed his brother able and God sent him to the land of nod(iraq) from Cain followed all the generations of Islam/Muslims to our present day, always at war with Christians, they are the children of satan always have been always will be, you can not covert the heart of a child of satan for they have no conscience at all, just like Muslim Obama born a muslim raised a Muslim lived as a Muslim and will die as a muslim a man with no conscience who by directions of satan tried to destroy america, you can not convert a Muslim, so when millions are allowed inside america they bring with them their own beliefs and will never convert to being a child of God
If the FBI, the Dept. of Homeland Security, which has been known to take a few bribes, and the American “Intelligence” agencies are all saying the same thing, then I’m not buying it for sure, because I don’t trust any of them!
Trust Trump?
More so than you, TRAITOR
Was it “patriotic” to fire upon OLD GLORY at FORT SUMTER?
“Patriotic” to fire at OLD GLORY aboard the USS KEARSARGE?
“Patriotic” to order Oliver North, to sell arms, to Ayatollah Khomeini?
Their Boss O-Bung-Hole DEMANDED that story !
Awwww…What’s the matter shitbaggers? Got caught rigging the election? If you think for one minute we will allow you hicks to get away with one single tiny gaming of the election, think again. It wasn’t about Hillary assholes. It was about Republicans who thought they could just get whatever they wanted. Not anymore. Wikileaks is now in defense mode because Assange that Rapist Pig, knows he was the one who fed tons of data to the Russians who then managed to do what your Plumbers did in Nixon’s Burglarizing of the Watergate Hotel in DC…steal DNC information so they could screw with the votes and make it look as if Hillary didn’t win the popular vote. Anyone can fukk up the Electoral College. But, ONLY Republican states spend two years before an election redistricting their voting maps.
Now, we will demand these states prove they were entitled to ALL of those big time increases in electors in your shitbagger states. So, didn’t think we’d beat ass and take names? Think again.
You libs are really an intolerant bunch of uneducated, name calling communists. Your immediate response to anything is name calling because you have nothing else.
I love how no one is denying the truth of the emails showing Hillary was a corrupt, lying, soulless person. Face it, you ran a terrible candidate and lost because the truth about her was exposed. Now you need someone to blame for her loss. Blame any and everyone but her. Face it, she sucks and should be in jail instead of running for President. You lost. Stop whining, put your big girl panties on, get out of your safe space and get on with life (if you had a life to begin with).
I want to see Hillary, Obama, Holder, Lynch, etc, in Gitmo. I think that’s why Obama wants it closed down.
Why are we intolerant? Because unlike hicks we don’t feel the need to walk around armed to the teeth like Rambo? How “tolerant” is that? Most educated people know that hicks fall into 2 categories: the phony wannabes who pretend they are rednecks with all that swaggering and drawling and hick lingo and the real rednecks who, through no fault of their own, were unable to reach their life goals.
Face this cowboy: We ran the ONLY candidate you balls and penises were scared silly would make MEN have to take a back seat for a change. This wasn’t about Hillary. It was about men who cannot stand the idea that a woman will tell YOU what to do. Right hick boy? That IS what women up north will NEVER tolerate. If we earn the title, we earn the job at the same wages as you. If we are educated and refuse to hide our brain power, men like you either STFU or you get MORE not less women on your backs.
What good did it do you to rig the election and stack the cards against Hillary? Now, you will end up with MORE not less women on that debate stage. Maybe, even MORE women to outnumber the balls and penises.
Trump won’t be president long. For several reasons: He has too much conflict of interest baggage and any day now the Dems will demand the IRS disclose what Trump is hiding: Billions of dollars he was loaned by Russians. Not to mention the phony Trump Charitable Trust. You boys have played your “Get away with it” games too long and now you have pissed off women with educations who unlike your cowgirls, don’t need a man for his money. All men like you know is bossing women and kids around. Our patience is worn thin with that BS.
Here’s what you “got no argument, so I’ll call everybody names”, uneducated, bottom dwelling liberals fail to understand. You know nothing about us “hicks” other than what the lying, liberal MSM has told you. My manager (in fact all the managers) at work is a female. My program director is a female. Our executive director is a female. Our VP is a female. I’ve worked for females since the early ’80s when I was in the Navy. So, you’ve already been schooled about that subject and lost.
You ran Hillary, not someone we were scared of, but someone we were glad was running. I would gladly vote for a qualified female for POTUS. But, you ran the most corrupt, criminal, unqualified candidate you could drag out of the swamp. She is a phony that cares nothing about America and only about how much more she can enrich herself.
Nobody rigged the election. More lies the MSM has told you, that you believe. The released emails only exposed the truth about Hillary. They didn’t change anyone’s vote after it was cast. No one is denying the emails were the truth. They are only whining because they were released. Even her own staff couldn’t stand her because she is such a nasty, worthless human being.
Get over it. You ran a lousy candidate and lost. Put on your big girl panties, stop whining and move on. I would say get on with your life, but I’m guessing you don’t have one by the level of your name calling and whining.
Sorry scumbucket..I reserve all my best names for scum like you. You bet I have proof. Try the CIA asshole. They are the ones, along with 17 other IT groups who have the proof you assholes can’t stand to face. Grow up you little fukkbagger. You are not going to be allowed to fukk up our elections with your hick state gerrymandering and redistricting. Already 50 of the Electors were unqualified to be electors because the Republicans fudged the truth about the voting districts the electors represented. Shitbaggers like you can’t stand the truth. You love war, waterboarding, bigot KKK cross burning, Jeff Good ole Good Ole Boy Session and his bigot BS and any other form of crooked and corrupt shit you think you can get away with. Sorry if Mammy and Pappy Yokum didn’t raise you right.
Where is the evidence? I haven’t seen a single scrap of evidence. The CIA said so is not evidence. I suppose you believe everything the government tells you just because they said so. Poor you.
Each of your posts add more evidence of your ignorance and bigotry. It must really suck going through life as such a small and hateful person. You could really use some professional help. You have added nothing of value to the conversation, other than to show others your true self.
Stop wasting the adult’s time here. I think the recess bell just rang. Now, run along and play with the other kiddies.
The evidence will be provided on Friday as the CIA planned. That would be January 6, 2017. Not as Trump tried to play his liar boy games on the Wednesday.
Face facts asshole. Putin has Trump eating out of the palm of his hand. Happy about that? Trump, like the asshole he has always been and since I live in NJ, I know what he is and more about him than YOU hicks ever will, thinks he is controlling Putin. Like you moron hicks, he is fooling himself. Putin was KGB. Trump is a bullshit artist who uses the same old worn out CEO tricks like “need to know” and “I know more than anyone.” Some of us worked very closely with Trump type CEOs and know their every move. You don’t. That’s why you voted for that asshole.
How adult is it when Trump slams the President of the country he will represent and praises Vlad the Impaler Putin? Can I personally roast your ass when we are living under Putin’s dictates? Don’t try to step out of your DogPatch comfort zone. The culture shock of Metropolitanism would kills you in seconds.
You really are a waste of good oxygen. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth (assuming you ever had a mother)?
You are the one that would be shocked by the real world. I’ve been around the world a couple of times. Visited many countries. You wouldn’t last a minute in many of them. You have no game other than calling other people names. You are a small, weak person. I’m guessing you live a very lonely life with your attitude toward others. So sad.
Hey cowshit…Does Melania kiss Trump with the same mouth she used in that photo to lick that woman’s twat? You cowshit boys can’t hold down any job not in Big Oil. And here in the northeast, your big oil is no longer needed except for the airlines and trucking industry. ooooooh hurt those balls doesn’t it you lazy bum?
Do you kiss your kids’ with that pig mouth after boozing your life away at those watering holes with those whores whose twats are in your face? Try not to be a hypocrite asshole. Men like you are way too easy to “mark.”
We love you eleanore because you show us what a true blue liberal is made of. Thank you and everyone like you for getting everyone out to vote for our next PRESIDENT of the USA, Donald J TRUMP! Thank you!
On top of that Assange told Hannity, on camera, that it was NOT a Russian hack.
I think Rosie, Marin Sheen, and the rest of asshole “celebrities” knows exactly who hacked the computers, just ask them. Obama is just another delinquent hiding behind being president which our country ought to be ashamed of. They “the Gov” are playing games, and inventing as always FAKE news to distract the real issues. Our intelligence agencies are playing stupid, ignorant, just like the Washington Post, NYT, are all imbeciles whom has no veracity. No one believes Obama and he knows it.
I think everyone is missing the real point of the release of these emails and that is that the DNC was committing illegal acts to help Hillary Clinton win the Democratic nomination for president. It really doesn’t matter where the information came from, what matters is that crimes perpetrated by the DNC leaders propelled Clinton to a landslide win of the Democratic nomination.
On a side note the emails of John Podesta exposed what could be other non-political criminal activity that the media and current administration is not interested in discussing calling anyone who does talk about it a liar or that they are reporting “fake news”.
It is quite clear to me that the media is an extension of the current administration by reporting everything that is fed to them as facts. The fact is that there is no credible evidence to support the claim that Russia or any other state sponsored cyber intelligence agencies hacked the DNC or Clintons (illegal) private server. What is evident is that Clinton and the DNC have engaged in what could be criminal activities and that Clinton may have committed treason by doing favors for people, countries or other entities that donated millions to the Clinton Foundation.
So in closing I just want to say “at this point what difference does it make” where the information came from!! The real story is that crimes were committed!!
Hannity last night aired on Fox News an interview with Julian Asange wikileaks and exposed the real truth behind the hacking. he traveled to London to get the truth right from the horse mouth. “quote” the government is playing games” and he gave all details. Obama owe an excuse to Putin and the World by acting wrongly
THIN?…LOL…LOL…IT DOES NOT EXIST OR THEY WOULD HAVE PUBLISHED THE EVIDENCE BY NOW…THIN?…LOL…LOL…LOL…
The agency that admitted they “could not find Hillarie’s emails” now wants us to believe they are sophisticated enough to find actual proof of Russian hacking? Yes, that’s right. Also the agency that had to hire outside IT experts to unlock a iPhone cell phone used by the San Bernardino terrorist couple. Pathetic. Really pathetic. Typical of government civil service employees.
What in the world could ever be in John Podesta’s emails that could impact a Federal election? And, if it did then it served Hillary right as it documented something she should not have been doing! These people are terminally ridiculous.
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Liberals just can’t accept the fact that they lost. Live with it assholes.
There is no evidence and the sooner the lying POTUS is out of office the better. He has been a pathological liar the majority of his life. I look forward to a President who really desires to make America Great Again. There is not a sliver of evidence that Russia did anything and I want my President to deal with all nations honestly and fairly.
By now everyone should understand that there doesn’t have to be any evidence. They just have to keep spewing the same lie day after day and after so long a time it becomes the truth. It’s in there book. Actually, they start believing it themselves. What a bunch of nuts ?
So I’m only to believe what trump, hannity, assange, and Fox News tells me!!! Now, I do know that I can totally trust whatever honest donnie spues out, cause he said he never lies, never makes mistakes, never has to apologize, and knows everything about everything!!!! You know, almost like a god!!!!
Why do so many continue refusing to believe after all that has been shown about Pinocchiobama and Pinocchiaillary? Yes, we just can’t believe that things like that would/could happen in America. We are safe in the Constitution-Bill of Rights?
Don’t think the demos didn’t cheat in the election. Just not enough and they are mad as ‘ell about it.
There is a lot of proof. It is all as credible as, Obamacare will save you $2500.00, you can keep your doctor and insurance, I just learned of Fast and Furious in the newspaper, the Benghazi murders were brought about by a video on the life and times of Mohammad, you have nothing to fear from the ISIS refugees, etc.. I guess I could have enumerated more truths, but…………………
Nothing has been hacked except maybe Hillarys face and her very secure server in the basement which she wiped clean with “A CLOTH ” lying winch!
So what if we were hacked and by whom, the information was correct. The source is not the problem the content is. Lock her up.
But they don’t want to talk about the content, just the messenger.
Thin?
An Egyptian court tried, convicted and sentenced to death Pastor [?] Terry Jones because of the “nonexistent” movie, THE INNOCENCE OF THE MUSLIMS.
Why didn’t Trey Gowdy ask to see it?
No proof at all. Just another Obama lie. He’ll start a war if necessary to stay in the WH. Putin thoughh a communist is not stupid enough to hack America.
The subterfuge in our Government is of a depth that would astound even the most ignorant people in the world, but it would not surprise very many.
The truth is it doesn’t matter because it was Trump’s hard work going to so many State’s and stopping in multiple Cities in each of them once Project Veritas exposed the Democratic operative’s running Nixon like dirty trick’s on his rallies like starting fights. IF they had been uncovered in California maybe he could have carried that State too but he was doe there and in Texas when the video came out! Hard work and the fact Trump told people what his plans were face to face and in tweet’s. The media denied any knowledge while Hilary sat around doing nothing and the media pumped her up with no message, none?
Who needed wiki leaks information to make up their minds? Our news papers were ignoring them unless you watched conservative news stations but then chances are you were not voting for Hilary anyway because you saw the Project Veritas video and knew the guy hired people of limited mental ability to try and get someone to hit them! How low do yo have to be to do this to someone in this position or hire a person to do it for you? Who needed Russian help?
I would say that these leaks are from people in these party’s that are waking up to what the party is doing and are upset !
Like Bernie supporters when they found out that hillery was suppose to win all along !
I would have to agree with you. Not Russia.
Those Emails were LEAKED to Wikileaks from inside the DNC … it is my belief that Mr. Rich leaked them and he was found out and EXECUTED on the street by the Criminal Clinton Machine for there is a list of those that have crossed or knew something about the Clintons !
Forget who leaked the truth, go after the criminal perps. Obama and the Clinton’s
THEIR COLLECTIVE A.. KICKING WILL COME.
where can I read the referenced report?
I don’t care if it was the Vatican that hacked Hillary’s emails. What matters is what those emails revealed – not who revealed them.
No, what matters is that they were hacked and it was an attack on the election process itself.
Would you feel the same way if they got into the GOP’s computers and publicized trump’s secrets?
I think you’d be mad as hell.
From the emails – we know that the DNC rigged their own primaries and fed debate questions to Hillary before the debates. That is the only attack on the elective process. The rest comes from Obama, so we know that it is a lie.
The worst that the Dems could find is that Trump likes pretty women – well, so does Hillary.
You know Hillary was a lousy candidate when she lost despite having the media hand pick, what she felt was the weakest opposing candidate, after she also rigged her own primaries against her party opponent. Further, she had the Media, Academia, Celebrities, the
Administration, The DOJ, IRS, CIA and NSA suborned, while she aligned with much
of her opposing party’s leadership. She had all the other elites in the world
in her back pocket AND THEN she also cheated in the debates. And “Crooked
Hillary” still Lost!!
The real shame is the lapse of morality with her supporters, in the Media, and the Democrat party who should have had higher standards. Each and every one should be ashamed. Never
before has an organized criminal been nominated for such a high office. Never
before has such a despicable person been able to manipulate so many of the
offices of government to cloak their criminal and treasonous activities. Even
after the fact – we remain focused on HOW the evidence of her corruption was
surfaced, and not on WHAT the evidence reveals and not on PROSECUTION of the
perpetrators. We have to have a prosecution of her crimes to reveal the truth.
Then either imprison her, or exonerate her, based on the evidence. She may be
innocent, but I really, really doubt it.
The media should love it; it will make great television!…..especially the
sentencing phase.
This is also Obama’s political revenge for someone uncovering what the Democrats and Hillary were doing to our political system. The real abuse of the election was Hillary fixing the primaries to Sanders exclusion and being fed the debate questions in advance. The Democrats are acting as if the discovery of their corruption and deceit is the sin, and not the acts themselves. Criminals typically think this way. To themselves, they are all innocent and never accept accountability. It is always someone else’s fault that they are discovered. We need to get back on topic and seek Hillary’s prosecution for the good of the nation and to protect our election system from similar internal sabotage in the future.
Oh, by the way, when Sarah Palin’s email was hacked by the son of a democrat official – it was hardly even newsworthyy to the mainstream state controlled media.
I had a feeling trump’s new information would turn out to be less than convincing.
We now have 17 US intelligence agencies that are almost always accurate in their analysis and predictions, pitted against a statement from the guy that published those unproven “expose’s” of inner workings of the Democratic National Committee. Assange has a vested interest in covering up the role of the Russian government if he was involved in their espionage and he hasn’t ruled out a role for the Russian government–
and he did say that the source of the hacked info came from a Russian source. That source could have been a front for the Russian government spy agencies!
From what Assamnge did say about the info coming from a Russian source, its obvious that the possibility of the Kremlin being behind the hacking should be investigated fully. Trump’s denial of that possibility and his bullshit about putting it behind us shows he has no commitment to ensuring the national security of the united states if the investigation also benefits his political enemies.
There’s never been a president,that didn’t put the well being of the country above their own interests. NEVER!
IMPEACH TRUMP for being either simply irresponsible, or possibly, a real Manchurian candidate traitor!
It could also be that the Russians were hacking us, as they have since the invention of the Internet,
and Separately, The DNC mole that Assange speaks about gave them Hillary’s emails as an independent act. But, I don’t care if it was the Vatican, or Botswana that hacked Hillary’s emails. What matters is: What Those Emails Revealed – not who revealed them. When will she be prosecuted? That’s what’s important!
You would never get the truth with Obama because what ever he wants to say is the bible and he has the Main Street Press an arm of the democrat party backing him. So those who yell the loudest wins except in elections and we have to get voter ID or the democrats will be winning every election.
I have to laugh at the black muslim queen of the May. Putin showed him what class was by not retaliating. Proves what the world thinks of America’s current president. He is irrelevant–not worth the effort it took to make him. Useless and a failure in everything he has had his hand in…..except the drugs in Hawaii and spending $96 million dollars on vacations in eight years. Can we get our money back….and just think we will have to pay michaels mother $160K a year for baby sitting two girls who don’t have birth certificates. The moochers will be out in 16 days but they will still have their dirty hands in the till of the American Tax Payers. This is how people with no class live. Is there anyway we can take away all of the pension money they will be getting? Impeach! Press Charges!!!! Jail them!!!!!!
Not going to happen in 2 weeks unfortunately. The time to do that was when the chorus was singing that tune in 2009.
if obama an the democratic spent more time making things instead of making up this stuff about Russia. we would already have a better America. they can’t stand the idea we have Mr Trump for president an he truly does want to make America Great again
all brock an hill wanted was to diminish us into one world order.
The real bad part of this propaganda is it has fooled some of our senators and representatives. How could they be so fooled to believe in the “thin evidence” used to frame Russia. Unless, these fooled people are part of the socialist/communist take over of America? We need to put term limits on these terrible people who are NOT good leaders.
To be fair – the “evidence” won’t be out until tomorrow. If they go along with the Charlatan in Chief then – you are right. To be sure, whatever Obama says will be a lie. He is at least consistent.
When Assange released the names of American and allied informants, trump said he was a bad man who ought to be executed!!! When he releases the dirty secrets of the dems, trump, and all his suck-o-phants, declare Assange to be a hero!!! What a bunch of evil hypocrites!!!
False! Assange NEVER released the names of American and allied informants.
Do you rely on Tass News, alex jones, or trump university for your dark enlightenment????
James Clapper just testified, under oath before congress, that Assange did do that!!! So NO NOTHING>>>I guess you know more than The Director of National Intelligence!!! False right back at you!!!
James Clapper just lied under oath then, like all Obama Muslim Brotherhood sycophants.
trump and all his suck-o-phant trumptards lie all the time!!! Prove that clapper is lying charlie tuna!!!! So everybody else who reported it, are all lying, too!!!! Here is another alex jone’s, infowars, conspiracy zulu!!!!
Our government is loaded up with bureaucrats rather than specialists in particular jobs as needed. Our government has become more and more of a dictatorship of those with wealth and power (who use it keep their oligarchy). We need a true revolution of the people at the ballot box to put these enemies of the people out of government, which they used to enrich and aggrandize themselves. The FDA is on of the worst – the drugs they approve kill people and the ones people need are out of reach with extremely high prices. What have we come to? Vote out all incumbents and lets get some regular smart and honest Americans to shrink our government and run it properly. Cheers. We especially need to eliminate the CIA that wastes extreme amounts of money and doesn’t do anything that is needed. The CIA and Central American drug cartel have murdered many good Americans. Its time to stop it. See: http://www.ifactit.com
(“The Rise and Fall of Hillary”).
Clapper needs to go. They are trying to set Trump up. I hope when Trump is in the WH he hires outside agencies (Interpol and Scotland Yard) to investigate and if it’s found that anyone in our own FBI or CIA, etc., fabricated “evidence” that they are charged. Don’t forget, these are the same government agencies that lied up and down the block about Benghazi, are responsible for countless “false flags, etc. And don’t forget that our very own Pres. Obama paid billions in ransom money to Iran and denied it, then said it wasn’t a ransom and let’s not forget just recently this administration was behind the drafting of the UN resolution against Israel that they tried to distance themselves from by not voting on it. And you really expect the American people (especially after what was revealed in the emails) to believe ANYTHING coming out of this administration?? It wasn’t the Russians. This is a huge smoke screen. And when is someone going to investigate the murder, of Seth Rich?
So Clapper has basically said that they can’t really provide all the proof because it would compromise their methods…. what a crock. Clapper and Comey both have “tells” facial expressions that show when they are lying. But I’m not going to tell what their tell is!!
I’d like to know how they did it without even getting access to the computers that were hacked. Generally, when a computer is hacked, you start at the hacked computer, then work your way back.
And the DNC refused to let the FBI examine their computers…. oh gee, I wonder why.
Look, once our government started saying the Russians did it, they HAD to continue the lie.. and expand the lie. If they suddenly backed off and said, we made a mistake, they would look like fools (not that they don’t look like fools already) and then it would beg the question who actually did the hacking…. which is what they want to cover up to begin with…It’s so corrupt…. Obama expelling the diplomats was nothing more than grand standing to support the bogus claims of Clapper and the FBI. These are agencies that are in Obama’s pockets and the Clintons for that matter. These are the agencies that lied up and down the block about Benghazi, etc. Sorry, they can not be trusted to be truthful. and Clapper saying he can’t say how they know it’s the Russians….. please!!
Demos always look for somebody to blame when things go wrong for them like their picking a terrible candidate for Prez, another liar.
If we are honest, we will admit that Russia has nothing to gain from either a Trump or Hillary victory. Putin might have preferred a Trump victory because his language was more of a friendlier nature. What is he to gain? Do you believe that if Hillary had won, Russia would give up Crimea ? Definitely not, for it is too important for the security of Russia, more so with the hostility of the countries on their Western flank and the bases set up by NATO and the USA. Sanctions have had only had minimal affect, and Russia easily rode the most difficult period of their implementation. Their citizens have stood behind their Government whatever propaganda being spread by the West. They appear to be thriving now and oil/gas and trade with nations around them, growing. With the war in Syria going Assad’s way, the likelihood of replacing supplies to EU from the ME is unlikely in the near future, and Russia/Iran/ Assad partnership will not make it easy. The Democrats are just making it more difficult for Trump to overcome the Chaos in the world created by our Government, by making Russia the enemy. In the meantime Putin is making friends all over the Eastern and Southern countries in he Eastern Hemisphere. Let us drop the crap and move forward. There was no need for hacking, for much of the GMO gains were in the Democrats strongholds, unless it was a ruse set up by the Democrats in a last ditch effort to have the elections declared null and void.
The NSA was hacked between 2000 and 2010 by a group called Shadow Brokers. This group has used the NSA’s own encryption code ace02468bdf13579 to sell the NSA’s “cyberweapons”. So far 10 countries have been hacked and attacked , Russia is one of those countries. NSA’s program SECONDDATE played a very specific role in a global attack on millions of computers using the 16 bit encryption code. This information is in the NSA’s operating manual instructing operators how to track their malware using the 16 bit encryption code.
Obama is on a vendetta, cause as much trouble as he can for Trump. We can see right through what he has done. The world sees what he has done. He leaves the office as the biggest laughing stock, imaginable. The world has no respect for Obama, even less then the people of the United States, minus died in the heart Democrats. He is a petulant child punishing the United States, for electing Trump.