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Rampant Fraud: Millions of Illegals Registered to Vote
Posted On 17 Feb 2017
President Trump may not be able to prove his claim that he would have won the popular vote in the absence of 3 million illegal immigrants/fraudulent ballots, but the mainstream media isn’t being entirely honest about the troubling figures putting our democracy at risk. According to James Agresti of Just Facts, a nonprofit research organization, there may be millions of illegal immigrants registered to vote in the U.S.
Agresti used a National Hispanic Survey taken by McLaughlin and Associates in 2013 to arrive at his figures. In that survey – the likes of which were utterly ignored by the mainstream press – the researchers polled a random sample of 800 Hispanics, 56% of whom were non-citizens. Of those non-citizens, 13% confirmed that they had registered to vote in violation of federal law.
Agresti took that sample and applied it to the 2013 U.S. Census numbers. According to the Census, there are 11.8 million non-citizen Hispanics living in the United States. Accounting for sample-size errors, Agresti determined that 13% of Hispanic non-citizen adults may therefore be illegally registered to vote. That works out to more than 1.5 million Hispanics who have no business on the voter rolls.
“Contrary to the claims of many media outlets and so-called fact-checkers, this nationally representative scientific poll confirms that a sizable number of non-citizens in the U.S. are registered to vote,” Agresti said.
This is the kind of thing we simply ignored in the pre-Trump era. Sure, you could read these stories in the conservative media, but they never gained any traction outside that relatively small universe. Donald Trump changed all that. He is forcing the mainstream media to talk about things they absolutely do not want to talk about, especially as it pertains to illegal immigration. And when he can’t force their hand, he just takes his message straight to the public. Who needs The New York Times when you have Twitter?
Does that mean Trump always has his facts straight? That his word is beyond dispute? Of course not. He exaggerates. He repeats claims from questionable sources. He says things without fully thinking them through. His supporters have long ago come to realize that it’s not necessary to take everything he says as the literal truth. That’s not even the point. The point is that by using these – sometimes outrageous – tactics, Trump shines a light on the dishonesty of the news media.
So maybe 3 million illegal immigrants didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton.
But…how many did?
That’s the question now being asked, and it’s because President Trump dared to challenge the established, previously-unassailable status quo.
That was why democrats/liberals fought vehemently against the Voters’ ID. Democrats REFUSED VOTERS’ ID.. They label as discrimination. Why? Illegal votes, and other fraudulent votes are their only chance of winning the election.
I had to have ID to by booze. At age 26 the ID expired. And I was refused at one bar. Why? Because I was 27 years old and my ID has expired. Must have been a liberal bar tender.
“Must have been a liberal bar tender.”
Nope. It is the law in most states that they can request a VALID ID from anyone who MAY be underage. But look at it that you are retaining your youth (a good thing). My daughter has complained about the same thing, being “carded” at 40+.
I had that experience too, at around 40, because I sported a beard I was carded. But he does have a point. I know they always say ‘valid’ ID in the law, but when you think about it, if one was old enough to drink or whatever while the ID was in effect, they sure as heck didn’t grow younger over time.
My local supermarket requires ID to buy beer from everyone, no exceptions. That is because they are worried about being sued for selling to minors. They also have a loyalty program – swipe your card and they could give you your life history down to how many rolls of toilet paper you bought in the last five years. They know who is old enough to buy alcohol, but they have chosen to go the ID route instead.
SImilarly, anyone who is registered to vote has a voter registration card and their signature is on file. In my experience, you turn up at the polling station where they have a list of voters registered to that zone/area, you get checked off the list and you sign your name. The board of elections then tallies the votes from the machines, or the paper ballots and compares the signatures on the roll to those on record.
How do you propose to get around that?
Only one problem no one checks to make sure they are a citizen . That is the Clerks job who handles the county records , just like they handle the death certificates and marriage license .
Yes. That is the Clerk’s job. What makes you think that district clerks are so dishonest or corrupt that they will register people without checking their credentials, for want of another word. It is easy for new citizens. In my case, I filled in a voter registration form during the naturalization ceremony and that was sent – with a copy of my brand new certificate – to my local elections board. Shortly thereafter, I received my voter registration card.
It is much more difficult for those born in America if for some reason they do not have their birth certificate.
You do know it is against the law to make a copy of your naturalization paper . Had a friend where some one made a copy and the FBI came knocking on her door to arrest her . There is no excuse in the US for not having a copy of Birth Certificate ,unless the county clerks records were burned in a fire .There have been very few cases of older people .
I am quite certain that there is no law against making a copy of naturalization papers, although there may be some restrictions on what you can do with the copies. Not sure what your point is.
Perhaps there is no excuse for not having a birth certificate. Tell that to your parents. But it happens. In the digital age fires don’t matter, but i can think of many situations where older Americans may not have proof of their birth. Perhaps that does not matter a whole lot – if there is absolutely no evidence that they entered the country illegally, they are American citizens.
Wrong again .
Succinct replies are to be praised, but they should at least say something. What is wrong again?
They are the ones who sell the illegals their SS numbers for giggles too.
Oh please! Give just one example
Today as soon as they are born a SS number is assigned .Dept. of immigration gives the green card SS numbers which are different than ours. Special treatment cards. Clinton and Obama made sure the Illegals got a SS card.
My experience was at 61! Wasn’t driving so didn’t carry my wallet, just cash.
BULL SH**!!! They can win if they ever learn to tell the truth! That is the problem more than illegal or fraudulent voters.
You Are living in a Dream world. The democraps Have to lie&cheat to win. They know this, its why they Don’t want any election ID laws anywhere.
If I’m living in a dream world, you are living a nightmare. I am registered a democrat and NOT proud of it. I have not voted for a democratic contender since J F Kennedy because of their inability to tell the truth. I’m stuck in a democratic area and have little opportunity to vote for anything BUT dem-nuts.
100% Correct
Is border-jumpinng a felonny or a misdemeanor? Voting by felons is generally prohibited.
So is voting by non-citizens. And it is much more difficult.
first time is misdemeanor. reentry after deportation is a felony.
Thank you for the info
I don’t see any title on the home page of JUST FACTS that is about voting by undocumented people. Where is the information?
Everyone knows that probably 5 million illegal immigrants voted for hillary clinton illegally…. However, this does not seem to worry democrats as they think it is totally legal even tho it is NOT legal. Democrats are a weird bunch. Anything illegal is ok as long as it furthers their beliefs…..This is not the way AMERICA was built. Maybe we are all doomed to become a 3 rd world country after being so great. I HOPE NOT………
Perhaps “everyone” YOU know knows this, but Intelligent people know nothing of the sort.
“Everyone” is overly strong in this example. However, using the number “11.5 million” for illegal aliens residing in this country is patently false. That number is based merely on the number of illegal aliens that admitted it in the census. Both the Border Patrol and ICE agents admit that obama had restricted them to reporting only a third of the actual number.
And, don’t forget the recent illegal alien who was caught, was a criminal, and got deported…this woman admitted that she had voted FIVE times for Hillary.
Hmmm…even at the false “11.5 million” number of illegals, if only a small percentage of them actually voted, it totally skews the real number of legal votes Hillary received.
Hitlery Clingon cheated to her best, & still got her butt polished.
Demoncrats simply underestimated support for Donald Trump. They thought they had enough illegal votes lined up to steal the election and you can bet that unless something is done to rein in the massive fraud, they won’t make that mistake again.
Blech! I wouldn’t attempt to polish that butt for a million smackaroos.
God prevented her win. If not she would now be president. He raised up his man Donald and we all supported him so strongly, But it took a miracle to defeat that spawn of the devil, Hillary.
Oh please. God has more sense than that.
Oh please whitehouse you are the worst kind of fool. Laughable
Mark Twain said
“You believe in a book that
has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes,
burning bushes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all
sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the
ones that need help?”
I’m not laughing.
You should be for quoting Mark Twain! He’s human not God!
Mark Twain is funny. God is not.
Actually God has quite a sense of humor afterall you were born!
Very funny.
But as god had very little to do with my being born (I’m not going to go into my parents’ sex life) your comment is irrelevant.
ROFLOL, What a shame an old bat like you can’t even acknowledge God’s hand in your birth. You’re probably right and Satan deserves the credit.
I don’t see it as a shame, mostly because I just can’t understand what god had to do with my creation. Or Satan for that matter.
Perhaps you can explain the role of the divine in human procreation.
If you don’t understand the gift you are given when they lay your child in your arms for the first time then it can’t be explained to you. Apparently you don’t have children or you would know. Perhaps this is why you liberals have no conscience when it comes to killing babies for their body parts. They are a gift from God. To bad you don’t understand that.
I took a close look at those horror pictures of “babies” taken apart for their body parts that senators and congressmen used to stir up anger about planned parenthood. Take a closer look and you will see the arms and the shoulder arm sockets are those of plastic dolls!
Its like Joe McCarthy waving a blank piece of paper around as evidence of a conspiracy.
They are creating total hysteria with propaganda pictures.
Liar, those pics were taken by undercover investigators. We’re you there? No! So stop spreading your lies. I saw the tapes and I saw the baby parts being washed off. I saw tiny hearts. I’ve never seen a doll with a tiny heart. You’re a spawn of Satan.
I’m not satanist and I really saw that they were dolls. If I saw real cut up babies i would have been as outraged as you are.
If you have those pictures on a hard drive or somewhere else, i defy you to show them. my e-mail is [email protected]
send it as a file attachment.
Look it up you lazy sack of shit! If you thought those were plastic try listening to the tape where the doctor talks about selling enough baby parts to buy her Fararie! Is she going to do that on plastic parts dumb azz?
I don’t know what they said on the tape. I never heard that. I do know i saw a picture of plastic dolls that were lied about as being real dissected babies. Its easy to tell the difference.
Why are you angry that I’m challenging you to show me the pictures?
I’m not angry, I just take offense when someone accuses me of lying. I saw the whole tape where negotiations for the part were taking place. I saw the blood being washed off the teeny tiny fingers. I saw eye balls and the list goes on. Trust me nothing looked plastic or rubber. If you thought so then the negotiations for the parts would have convinced you they were for real.
Liar, liar pants on fire! Is it a lying gene you liberals are born with? You need help before you hurt yourself. See a psychiatrist! Then take your meds. I guess that doctor showing the parts thought she could buy a farrier with plastic body parts. Right you dumb Moron.
Actually I have three children who I love dearly. But they were not a gift. I worked quite hard to nourish their development and went through quite a lot of pain to deliver them. If they were – as you suggest – a gift from God, couldn’t He have made the process a little easier?
If you don’t think they are a gift from God just ask those poor women who wanted children but weren’t blessed with them. As far as God making it easier. You don’t know him to well do you? By the way it couldn’t have been that difficult afterall you had 3.
One very difficult followed by two caesarians (less difficult by painful for several days). Neither of my daughters has children, but again God had nothing to do with it, unless it is his idea of a cruel joke to give them defective reproductive organs.
No I don’t know God well. In fact I don’t know him at all. I am a heathen, an infidel, an unbeliever.
It shows!
I think you just like to complain. It’s incredible how two women can have given birth naturally and by C-section and have such different experiences. None of my children were difficult to birth. I do know God well and he blessed me with 4 sons. Each is a true gift. You see I was told I would never have children by two different doctors. After a great deal of praying and accepting God’s will I have four very successful, very loving son’s and I thank God everyday! To bad you don’t know him.
What shows? That I do not know God well (etc)? I have a bumper sticker that reads “Good without God” and it’s true – it is quite possible to be a really decent person without any sort of god. The nicest, kindest, gentlest people I know are atheists. The most narrow-minded, mean-spirited people I know tend to thank god every day.
My next door neighbor had an experience similar to yours – she was told she could not have children and then produced three sons. But I guarantee that she did not pray for them. You are extremely lucky that you had four easy births. I have one friend who gave birth to her third child in the hospital parking lot because he came so quickly. But I also have friends who were in labor for 20 hours or more. It’s how you are built, not how much you pray.
When you were born the doctor slapped you’re momma and said “how dare you”
Richard, where does that get us in our discussions ? Lets be adults and agree to disagree, not insult one another.
Winning by 3million votes hardly qualifies as a butt polishing!
Ahaahahhahaahaa!!!! “Winning!!” Right. (or did you mean “whining”??)
Sorry if I bruised your tender vagina.
Tell it to Hitlery.
Good luck with your follow-up lobotomy.
Yes she did. Hillary’s “coronation” as the anti America, democrat party candidate was ordained by the DNC when the lying, America hating, Kenyan born muslim obama stole his second term.
It seems only the foolish old socialist Bernie Sanders didn’t know that fact, and that old fool actually thought he could win…he never could, of course.
So, seeing her “go down in flames”…and tears…was a sight worth all the effort us Trump supporters put in…and more!
But, to the America hating losers that supported Hillary, just remember…”If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan, PERIOD!”
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..”If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan, PERIOD!”
Who said that?
Barry Soetoro.
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Among the reasons that the demoncrats are so afraid of what a Trump presidency will do, is that they may well lose millions of voters, who were voting illegally, for them, and they will be in deep shxt then!
Susan Short you Got that Right.
The democrats are done now…No more election wins ever for them…They had to flood the country with the lowest of the low to ever win any election…Obama won by two crooked elections. He was not supposed to even be on the ballot, not enough legal signatures to put him there…Can we please arrest the POS now????
Do you understand what you are saying? “No more election wins ever for them.”
Regardless of who “them” is, you are suggesting that we should just do away with democracy altogether and become a one party state.
That hasn’t worked out so well in the past.
Argentina was a democracy as wealthy as Canada at the start of the 20th century. When dictators came to power, Argentina declined into a third would country.
For the first time we’re witnessing a United states president that is refusing disaster aid to parts of the country that voted for his opponents! What he’s doing is very abnormal and if it continues parts of the country’s infrastructure will crumble and America will decline as a world power and its wealth will disappear because he is NOT PRESIDENT OF ALL THE PEOPLE like past presidents.
We have to get rid of that conman as quickly as possible either by impeachment or by declaring him unfit to govern. He’s already paid fines for lying to the IRS about bribes. I’m wondering how much worse things have to get before the Republicans wake up and do what they once did, act for the common good of the whole nation and putting the common good above party politics. It wont take lot of them to come over to the democratic side and impeach trump. Otherwise his scorched earth policies will ruin this once great country.
i couldn’t agree more. Thank you.
They have no one to blame but themselves…but they will blame everyone BUT themselves!
Yes Sluggo, and a few years back, the LA Times reported on a group of UCLA students who tried a little experiment to see how many times they could get away with going from district to district and voting. There was a group of them who went to five or six different locations seeking to vote and only once was one of them asked for ID, and all it took was ‘are you prejudiced against hispanics?’ to drop the subject and allow him to vote.
The illegal you are talking about actually had a drivers license which had the box ‘non citizen’ checked. In California, if that box is left blank, the person is automatically registered to vote.
Is it any wonder why only one party seems dead set against tightening up voter registration, or showing a valid ID (which poor folks always seem to be able to get in order to get public benefits), could it be that they actually encourage an illegal act?
That’s correct, CALIFGUY…thanks for being wake out there in enemy territory.
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Enemy territory? Do you not see a problem with considering some of your fellow Americans as the enemy?
WaKe up. These people who want a non stop flood of illegal criminals allowed into this country…that want to allow the law breaking, racist criminals such as Jerry “Moon Beam” Brown, and all the dishonest mayors and lying, totally dishonest, “La Raza” supporting democrat congressmen and state and federal senators…such as the dumbest elected official in the federal government, Nancy Pelosi, and the lying liberal democrat senator Diane Fienstein…who are constantly working to destroy America’s racial makeup, or history, culture, language, it’s Founding Fathers, and simply anything and everything that makes this country what it is, and special in all the world’s history.
I’ve traveled a large part of the world, and I KNOW that America is a very, very special place…I love it, and want to keep it.
These people are NOT “my fellow Americans”…you need to realize that.
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Excuse me. Who wants a non-stop flood of illegal criminals? Just tell me and I will personally go and punch them in the face. However, nobody wants a flood of illegal criminals so my knuckles are safe.
I think you need to wake up to the fact that America’s racial makeup is not the same as it was 50 years ago. And that immigrants who have taken out citizenship are your fellow Americans. Blocking further immigration is not going to change that. Nor is continued immigration going to take away the America you love. It is a special place BECAUSE it has welcomed so many people from so many places, welcomed them with open arms, not with hate.
Jeez…again with the “hate”…
You, apparently, are extremely naive and very uninformed when it comes to “immigration”.
Being aware of the danger to America, and speaking up, is not “hate” as all you liberals constantly, and dishonestly claim.
America has the most generous LEGAL immigration system in the world, taking in more legal immigrants each year than any other country.
Did you know that in the sixty two years Ellis Island processed legal immigrants to America, there were ONLY about 12 million people allowed in? That’s in a SIXTY TWO YEAR period…compare that to the dishonestly LOW number of 11.5 MILLION…off by about two thirds…used for ILLEGAL ALIENS now living in America.
There is no such thing as an “undocumented” immigrant. That term is dishonestly used by liberals that simply want America to have no borders of any kind. America HAS a legal immigration system. IT IS NOT BROKEN. If you are immigrating then there are rules and procedures to follow on the path to America citizenship.
It is a privilege…NOT a “right” to become an American.
If, however, you simply want to “jump the line”, and enter America illegally, then you are NOT an immigrant…you are an ILLEGAL ALIEN, and a criminal.
Anyone who comes to a country for the purpose of joining into that country’s SUPERIOR society is anxious to follow the rules and customs of their new CHOSEN society. They will LEARN THE LANGUAGE, FOLLOW the laws and customs, and TRY to become a good citizen of their new, SUPERIOR, country.
Those people are welcome.
Those that come here and expect Americans to provide them with everything they WANT, adapt to THEIR customs and traditions, speak THEIR language, and provide for educating THEIR children in their OLD Country’s language are ALIENS who do NOT want to become citizens of the new, SUPERIOR, country.
Those people are NOT welcomed by any Americans that I know, and should NOT be allowed by anyone.
Despite the denials by liberals and racist organizations like “La Raza”, the NAACP, or the anti American ACLU, illegal aliens have an extremely high violent crime rate here in America. Did you know that illegal aliens killed more innocent American citizens during the ten year time span of the Iraq war than there were American soldiers killed in that war?
How about the names Kate Steinle…Marilyn Pharis…or Sarah Root? Do the names of those innocent America women murdered or killed by ILLEGAL ALIENS mean anything to you?…Google search them…they should. Those three women, and THOUSANDS of other innocent Americans, would be alive today if obama had done his job enforcing America’s borders, outlawed the very concept of “sanctuary cities”, and prosecuted ALL public officials that have sworn to enforce our laws to PROTECT American citizens, but then allowed illegal CRIMINAL aliens to live in their cities…but obama did NOT do his sworn duty to protect America from it’s enemies, foreign and domestic…in fact, obama WAS a domestic enemy of America and did his very best at each opportunity to damage and destroy this country, our racial makeup, language, customs, religious traditions…EVERYTHING!
He called it “transforming America”…he said that just about the time that he thanked John McCain for not making his muslim faith an issue in their presidential campaign…or did you miss that?
Do you know who Jerry Brown is?…how about Nancy Pelosi?…know who Diane Feinstein is?…how about Ed Lee?…know who Eric Garcetti is?…ALL of these people are for totally open borders and support sanctuary cities in California, as well as the rest of America.
So, your knuckles are NOT safe at all…all of these people WELCOME illegal alien criminals, and support open borders.
Do you know what the term “sanctuary city” means, and how they are a threat to YOUR very life?…your children…and their children?
Did you know that “Lah–teen—ooos” have become the numerically MAJOR ethnic group in California?…NOT because of legal, decades long, naturally occurring demographic change, but by the FLOOD of MILLIONS of illegal “mexican” aliens into California.
If that, and the way it has come about, does not bother you, you are seriously naive about the future of this Country.
Do you believe that American taxpayers should pay for anyone and everyone…anywhere in the world…who decides to simply enter America because they can, and then demand that they be provided welfare, healthcare, food stamps, social security, an education for their childdren, and any of the other social program benefits that they have never paid one penny into, because they claim it is their “right”?
Do you know who the group “La Raza” is?…and what that term means?..have you ever viewed any of the videos of their gatherings and anti white, hate filled speeches on You Tube?
Have your ever heard the term “reconquista” as it applies to what is happening in America, and who is behind it?
What about the written document entered into evidence in the 2008 Holy Land Terror Trial, that specifically spells out the plan of the Muslim Brotherhood, as it pertains to North America and the “global caliphate”…as well as ALL Western, White, Christian European countries?
Have you paid any attention AT ALL to what’s happening in Germany, France, England, Norway, Sweden, Belgium, the Netherlands…ALL of Western, white, Christian Europe? …
Did you know that obama’s “closest adviser”, Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran, and has close ties to the Muslim Brotherhood?…how about Hillary Clinton’s ties to that same terrorist group and their agenda to subvert America and all of the Western world with their “civilization jihad”?…you can read that chilling document on the internet with a simple Google search.
Do you think it’s any accident that obama planned to flood America with so-called “refugees”…almost totally muslims of mid east descent?…and Hillary had plans to increase that number by a factor of FIVE! It’s called “seeding”..and is a technique that the muslim brotherhood…and obama…are very fond of doing.
My state…Michigan…has, next to California, received the most muslim “resettlement refugees” of all the states, and us Michiganders DO NOT WANT THEM!
That’s how Obama got his second term. People were bussed from district to district to vote…and vote, and vote…
Get every one of them out of here now. Trump promised.
Yeah, I could dig it…how about this as a bumper sticker…
BUILD THE WALL–DEPORT THEM ALL!
Has a nice “ring” to it…don’t you agree? lol
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No. I don’t agree
LOL…too bad.
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How about adding, “OBAMA AND ALL!!”
I definitely agree with your thinking…
Do you think Kenya would take the goat herder back?
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Not sure about that. Even his family isn’t all that fond of him. He may be able to be a sheep herder and succeed. He did that in America for 8!years so he has “experience” for a change.
LOL…you go girl!…that’s totally correct!
Like they say…there are sheep (liberals)…wolves (illegals, most muslims, etc)…and sheep dogs (conservative, patriotic Americans.
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Intelligent?! I’m not sure you even know the meaning of the word intelligent!
You don’t need 5 million you only need 1 or 2 million , just read of an Illegal voting 5 times ” 5 TIMES ” !!!
And then you have Dumbo on TV telling ILLEGAL’S that they can vote !
I heard him on TV telling them to be sure to vote. Why is he not in Gitmo yet for his treason? Arrest him now, please.
Agreed. When will the indictments come down for o-bah-meh, Hellery and their team of Dumocrats?
And your source is?
ABC , NBC , CBS ,
That’s it? So CNN is OK, NPR is in the clear? ALL print media are OK? Where is the problem? Just don’t watch network TV.
You asked ” And your source is? ” It may have been on all the others and probably was but I only saw it on those 3 !
And i gave them to you !
OK. I apologize. I thought I was responding to another question.
However, whatever you think you saw on ABC , NBC , CBS, President Obama did NOT tell illegals to vote. He encouraged LEGAL Latinos to vote. (http://www.snopes.com/obama-encouraged-illegal-aliens-to-vote/)
Here is the transcript from ABC , RODRIGUEZ: Many of the Millennials, DREAMers, undocumented citizens — and I call them “citizens” ’cause they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?
OBAMA: Not true.
That tells me The democrat that the poles said was suppose to replace him would not go after any Illegal that voted ! Which is the same as saying you can vote .
You are right HE did not say it ” RODRIGUEZ: Millennials, DREAMers, undocumented citizens So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us? ( Taken from her interview ) ” . In other words : undocumented if I vote will anything be done ? OBAMA: Not true. NO . In other words Go ahead vote .
Not exactly. You have missed the point that she is a citizen and therefore entitled to vote. Obama was reassuring her that there would be no repercussions against her largely undocumented family.
So why is it they won’t come after the illegals?
In this case, because your ballot is secret, and the government has no right to know how you voted.
Ms Rodriguez talked about how undocumented, and not very well-informed, immigrants were fearful that it would happen. How did they get that idea? I don’t know for certain, but I surmise that unscrupulous people planted the idea to suppress the Latino vote – the legal Latino vote. To figure out who those unscrupulous people might be, you have to ask yourself who would benefit most from a low turnout among Latino voters.
You need to read the immigration regulations , documented means they came here LEGALLY , Undocumented means ILLEGALLY , and Immigrants can not vote in federal elections until they are NATURALISED CITIZENS !
I know that! When and where have I said that aliens can vote?
By the way, I will not be commenting any more: https://a-better-way.me/2017/02/23/ending-the-disqus-sion/
You did not say Illegals can vote obama did .
No he didn’t.
You are overlooking the fact that Ms Rodriguez was born in Chicago and that the President was urging Latino CITIZENS to vote. Her question was whether the act of voting would trigger interest in possibly undocumented family members. Obama assured her that it would not.
Add to that the fact that it is very difficult, if not impossible for aliens – legal or illegal – to even register to vote.
No you are overlooking she is not talking about herself : RODRIGUEZ: Many of the Millennials, DREAMers, undocumented citizens ( she is asking a question for these people then she goes on to explain why she calls them citizens ( undocumented = Illegal not citizens ) that is what the — is for ) — and I call them “citizens” ’cause they contribute to this country — ( Then she asks if anything would happen ) are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?Obama didn’t rebuke Rodriguez for her question. He didn’t say that illegal immigrants should be “fearful of voting.” He didn’t start his answer by saying, “Illegal immigrants and ‘dreamers’ can’t vote, because they aren’t citizens.” Instead, he said, “Not true.”
As for being impossible , voter registration forms are passed out by both sides to get people to vote all they have to do is when it asks are you a citizen check yes !
The completed voter registration forms are then sent, along with state-specific forms of ID – to the local election office for processing. That processing involves checking the ID before issuing a voter registration card.
Just watch the full interview.
Photo copy’s are sent , something like this ! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3b48e48047890a43428e704d94644fb851af7ef22d632e8fafb9ea7a74579e0c.jpg
You’re either a liar or mentally challenged because we all saw it! Here it is Moron!
http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/11/obama-encourages-illegal-aliens-to-vote/
If that doesn’t work for you Google it for Pete’s sake! Lazy twit!
God give me patience! The interviewer – a citizen – asked whether voting would expose her undocumented family. The President replied – in an uncharacteristically unclear way – “when you vote you are a citizen” He was not granting citizenship to her because she voted; he was saying that she voted because she was a citizen, and, no, that would not bring immigration to her doorstep.
Don’t bring God into this because you wouldn’t know him if he was knocking on your door! Getting back to the subject you can Google and find Obunghole saying it in his own words. Do some research for crying out loud! Of course you would make an excuse for anything he did.
So right Btty. I would not know god if he was knocking on my door. Possibly because that is very unlikely to happen.
I did not need to do a Google search because you so kindly provided a link. I watched it – again! – and made what I thought was a pretty clear comment. I’m sorry if you are unable to understand what I said – or what the President said.
I was right! Your lazy but your biggest problem is you’re to old. Liberals can never admit when their wrong. I’m sure you have more in common with Satan than God.
Funny! I thought that usually age translated to wisdom.
In many ways I am lazy. As far as housekeeping is concerned, I am definitely a slob. But that has nothing to do with age. Or with Satan.
No, Liz. It’s just that many who have achieved a certain age think they know lots of things they don’t know. That’s be you.
Yes, Liz. But the question is, what will happen when you know on HIS door? 😉
You saw part of an interview which had been edited to allow you to interpret the President’s words the way you obviously wanted to. It did not occur to anyone who is not an Obama fan to question why a man known for his integrity and careful choice of words would actively encourage anyone to break the law.
Check out the link to Snopes, which has the full transcript of the relevant part of the interview. They also have the video, although I couldn’t get any sound. I have twice posted the link to Mitú on You Tube, but they have not showed up yet.
Just like I said you could come up with an excuse for anything he did. He failed and he made this country weaker than any President in history. He tried to destroy our beloved country and was damn close to it but instead he awakened a sleeping giant and we threw his azz out like any enemy! So suck it up Liz because I’m sick of your delusions! Now take your meds and lay down before you have a stroke.
If President Obama had actually encouraged illegals to vote, I would have been the first to criticize him. But he did not, and therefore needs no excusing. And I am not the one who is delusional.
You did not throw his “azz” out. Obama was re-elected by 332 electoral votes (eat your heart out Donald Trump with your 304) and 51.1% of the popular vote. He left office because his term had ended.
You still can’t tell me how your beloved country is worse off now than it was in January 2009 when Obama was inaugurated.
Your a big girl, look it up. Stay away from the left leaning fake news.
So I should rely solely on right-leaning fake news?
What do you suggest I look for? Unemployment? (down). Crime? (down) The Dow? (up, up,up) Home ownership? (not so good) Foreclosures? (down) Poverty level? (steady) Uninsured? (down)
And if you cannot even be bothered to cite one way in which Obama “destroyed” the country, I conclude that it didn’t happen.
Poor delusional Liz. Must be off your meds again. How does it feel living by your spoon fed liberal stats? More people on food stamps than at any other time in history. Unemployment up because your stats don’t count the people who have given up looking for a job. Crime has seen a huge rise. Dow is up thanks to Trump dearie. Poverty level (steady)? That’s disgusting! What was he doing for 8 years? Playing golf while our people suffered. Uninsured down? What a total fool you are. Obamacare was and is a disaster! I guess you were selectively deaf when rams brother would put it together said it was a bill of goods sold to stupid people (like you) and was never meant to work. Your conclusions are pathetic and wrong!
You might have also mentioned Obama Care and Bill Clintons comments regarding it (basically say it was absurd.) Worth mentioning too is the fact that a National Health Program has been pushed several times in our past; most often by the Republicans. It never got beyond talk though and it always died from lack of support. I truly believe that is why Obama pushed it; to show they could get it passed. It may have been a decent effort and plan had it been developed with more of a goal than just getting it done. It is a perfect example of what happens when people lacking program and project management skills fail to plan and research the material before committing to it. The basic idea of a National Health Program is ideal but doing it just to show they could do it was absurd. And, knowing it was bad they have done nothing to fix it. Now that something is being proposed that will clean up the mess Obama Care forced onto us we can only hear complaints and accusations from those who fathered the mess! Knowing the problems, the Democrats just allowed it to go on Typical of Obama and the Democrats mind set, “do nothing and the problem will go away!”
Are you kidding? She would never have been able to absorb all of that! Afterall she’s a liberal. 😉
Unemployment is down. Not “fake news” but certainly misleading. The government has simply moved lots of people off the rolls. You know, a little adjusting of the Labor Force Participation number.
Dow up? Hey, Liz, that’s capitalism for you. You know, the thing Obama seemed to dislike so much.
Home ownership is actually down from just under 69% to about 65.5%.
Foreclosures? Yes…down now but way up under Obama’s early years. Hey…if you can posit bogus issues I can give you some alternative facts.
You seem to be overlooking the fact that Obama inherited a financial crisis brought about, many people say, by the deregulation of banks and Wall St. Of course foreclosures were way up in his early years.
By the way: http://a-better-way.me/2017/02/23/ending-the-disqus-sion/
I didn’t overlook anything. My point was that YOUR point…”Foreclosures? (down)”…was simply an inane one. Foreclosures spiked in Obama’s first couple of years and, as the problems were worked out, fell from an abnormally high level.
Hey…try getting your info on economics and finance from something other than left wing websites. You will be misled.
In any event, you stated “And if you cannot even be bothered to cite one way in which Obama “destroyed” the country, I conclude that it didn’t happen.”
Americans on food stamps skyrocketed.
Student loan balances spiked.
The national debt doubled in only 8 years.
Labor Participation Rate fell allowing the government to report lower unemployment.
Home ownership fell.
Median family income fell.
And that’s before we even think about things such as the rise of the “JV team” in Syria and Iraq. That’d be ISIS, in case you are as ignorant of international issues as you are of domestic economic matters.
The DemoRATZ inherited there OWN FINANCIAL CRISIS!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM
From 2006 to 3009 when o’bozo took office. The Congress was controlled by the Democrats. They spent money like it was going out of Fashion. The Recession started during this time. when o’bozo, took office his and their polices intensified it, in to , if looked at in the same eyes, as we looked at things in the late 1920 trough 1941 was a Depression.
In the Eight years of o’bozo, the GDP, did not make it over 2%. During the Depression, I believe the the GDP, was about 8%.
If you feel that your postings would be more to you liking by leaving this provider. Have a good day.
I find it extremely difficult to have a discussion with people whose arguments are based on beliefs rather than facts. https://www.thebalance.com/us-gdp-by-year-3305543
But I can, Liz.
The median family income is LOWER than when he took office.
Student loan balances have skyrocketed.
The national debt has almost doubled in only 8 years.
Labor force participation has fallen off a cliff.
The number of Americans on SNAP reached over 43 million in 2016 from just from just 32 million when Obumer took office.
There are just a few items.
Want to talk about the JV team and other abysmal failures WRT foreign policy?
What?? This isn’t YOUR beloved country? Who’d a thunk?
Soros Obama and Clinton rigged the votes!!!!! Get it!!!! But is it is ok because they still lost!!!!
No. I don’t get it. How did Soros Obama and Clinton rig the votes?
http://www.snopes.com/george-soros-controls-smartmatic-voting-machines-in-16-states/http://www.snopes.com/george-soros-controls-smartmatic-voting-machines-in-16-states/
Your link leads to a page on Snopes which says that this is an article they haven’t yet written. In other words it is a fake.
Politifact, on the other hand has written about Soros and voting machines: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/31/sean-duffy/wisconsin-congressman-fuels-soros-voting-machine-r/ They rate the contention pants on fire.
http://www.westernfreepress.com/2014/07/19/could-obama-be-plant-of-kgbmuslim-brotherhood/
So let me try to understand. Obama was planted by the Russians to instill subversive communist ideas into the country.
When we “follow the money” on the Diebold voting machines, being used in the Democratic primaries, we find that they are supplied by a company called Smartmatic, which is owned by billionaire George Soros (pictured above).
When linking my source for this, I was unable to find any commentary at all from CNN, MSNBC or any of the other corporate “news” outlets that donate to Hillary Clinton.
It seems that George Soros being in charge of the voting machines would be a huge news story, as Soros is also Hillary Clinton’s largest donor.
Wait a minute!!!
The company that is in charge of the voting machines is also Hillary Clinton’s largest donor?!?
Perhaps the “crazy Bernie people” are not so crazy after all.
Surely everyone agrees that we cannot expect impartiality if the company in charge of counting our votes is heavily invested in the success of a single candidate.
Why would George Soros give all this money to Hillary Clinton?
And how can Hillary’s largest donor be allowed to tally our votes?
Even Clinton supporters must admit that this is a conflict of interest at the very least.
But allow me to take this a step further.
I will say that it is IMPOSSIBLE to receive fair election results when the company in charge of vote counting is also an investor in one of the candidates, let alone her LARGEST investor.
Suddenly, the “crazy Bernie people” don’t seem so crazy after all.
journalism
I am tempted to go into each individual accusation of voter suppression that the DNC has been accused of and look at all sides of each story, but that would require an epic tome.
It is curious that the Massachusetts exit polling, conducted by Hillary Clinton donor Time Warner, which has been historically accurate for decades showed Bernie Sanders winning by 7 points, but once CNN “adjusted” the poll, it showed Clinton winning by 2 points (exactly the amount she “won” by).
It is curious that nearly all of the exit polling across the country showed that Sanders outperformed the final counts.
Why are these people leaving the polls and lying about who they voted for?
Who does that?
Of course, the answer is that almost no one does that.
So why are the normally accurate exit polls showing such a wide disparity between people who say that they voted for Sanders and the votes that are actually credited to him through the voting machines audited by Hillary Clinton’s largest donor?
It’s a fair question, right?
Perhaps a better question would be to ask why the networks (which, as we have illustrated, donate large sums of money to Hillary Clinton) have suddenly and without reason, canceled their exit polling for the remaining primaries?
Why would they do that?
To conserve funds?
That seems unlikely, as exit-polling is big news and actually causes people to tune in.
Exit-polling is a huge money maker for these networks, so why cancel when the Democratic race is so close that we cannot even declare a winner without relying on the Super-delegates at the contested Democratic National Convention (sponsored by Comcast) on July 25th.
And speaking of Super-delegates, they have not voted yet.
They vote at the convention.
So why would ALL of the corporate”news” organizations that donate money to Clinton, continue to mislead the American people, by showing the Super-delegate totals when airing the “news”?
Don’t the American people deserve to know the actual delegate count?
How can this be taken as anything other than a blatant attempt to mislead voters?
Perhaps if the “crazy Bernie people” believe that Clinton has already won, then they will stay home and not bother voting.
Or perhaps many of those people who would have voted for Sanders, will just vote for Clinton as the “news” has made it abundantly clear that a vote for Sanders is a wasted vote.
superdel
I have touched on just a smattering of oddities in this “Democratic” primary.
I am curious as to why the corporate media lies repeatedly by saying that Clinton has 3,000,000 more votes than Sanders and how the DNC conveniently decided to not count caucus voters and how this allows them to perpetuate this untruth.
I am curious as to why tens of thousands of voters are going online and showing that their Democratic voter registration was switched to Republican or Independent just before voting day (in case you are wondering how Clinton and the DNC would know who is planning on voting for Sanders, this data is acquired through phone-banking. Each candidate knows who each other’s voters are).
I am curious as to why nearly every single one of these disenfranchised voters claim that they were intending to vote for Sanders.
I cannot justify extending this article to the length required to speak about sudden voter purges that occur right before elections and how the people purged say overwhelmingly that they were planning on voting for Sanders, when interviewed.
And I will not touch on the nature of closed primaries that deny Independent voters their basic constitutional right to vote.
Nor will I discuss in depth the intense hypocrisy of Clinton and the DNC to expect that those same people who were refused their right to vote in their state primary, should then turn around and throw their support behind the very party that refused them their right to vote (“BUT HEY!! IF YOU DON’T THEN TRUMP WILL WIN!!!”)
There is such a preponderance of evidence to support the claims of election fraud on the part of Hillary Clinton and the DNC, that it is less of a question of whether there is actual fraud and more a question of why anyone would choose to deny the obvious at this point.
To the supporters of Secretary Clinton, I would ask…
“Is the election of your candidate worth the cost of destroying American Democracy?”
The Bernie people aren’t crazy.
They’re outraged.
When Democracy comes under attack it is the duty of everyone to defend it.
If you honestly believe that this election has been conducted fairly, then I move that you are choosing to remain ignorant of the facts.
I know that America is LONG overdue to have our first woman President.
But electing Hillary Clinton at the cost of American Democracy would be a travesty.
I believe strongly that her supporters are better than that.
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breathefreesite
May 21, 2016 at 10:04 pm
Outstanding piece and research. I agree on all points. My only comments are related to the writing: (a) I think you may have taken the “crazy” label used by Clintonistas for us Bernie supporters a wee bit too personally, it’s mentioned so often; and (b) I think you meant “whether” — not “rather” — in the 5th line from the bottom. No matter. What you wrote here is very important and I’ve already shared it on FB and linked to it in emails to Facebook-less friends.
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The Independent Thinker
May 23, 2016 at 7:02 pm
Oh my, the whether/rather thing.
I do this all the time.
My English professors tried to teach me.
I will fix this.
Thank you.
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[email protected]
July 7, 2016 at 11:16 pm
Although I am proud to be a Trump voter, this article is poignant in it’s auspices and an absolutely crucial read for any American possessing an I.Q. Over 75. I am an avowed capitalist, but I have a heart. I support same-sex marriage. I detest Hillary’s associate, Mr. Soros, who has, single-handedly taken ace relations back to a time before I was born (1977). Before Obama and his ‘folks’ came along, we lived in a world where our President was a war-criminal, but at least responsible, mature people of all ages, genders, and heritage seemed to get along well in places that weren’t burdened by the cycle that still holds so many African-Americans down. But, on the whole, I live in a large city and there are very few places I’m afraid to go. That is no longer the same. The only thing this administration has managed to, at least seemingly, do to open the eyes and heart of society is the embrace meant of homosexuality. I’m not going to give Obama credit. I give the American people, who united together after Orlando, and even some of the most old school Republicans finally spoke openly, in defense of all citizens of this country. Donald Trump (always a supporter of LGBT communities) came out swinging, screaming for justice for everyone, especially our LGBT community. Even 80% of Republicans have no problem with homosexuality!
The bigger point is that we have a woman, so detestable, so evil,,to her core, that no less than 5 books have come out in 3 years ( 2 written by former Secret Service Detail), begging people to listen to their stories abou Hillary. But, 35 years of associations with the Rose Law Firm, where Hillary can be quoted as laughing about getting a rapist off,,to her running damage control to scare away several of Bill’s RAPE victims, to her absolute incompetence as Secretary of State (Benghazi,,an Ambassador and 4 Army Rangers dead, that Hillary had half a day to give the orders to save, with appropriate troops, 5 minutes away! It seems the Ambassador realized Hillary was arming our enemies, and so he had to die). She went into Libya, for absolutely no justifiable reason, decimating the most prosperous, most accommodating of women, country, in Africa. Then, under lies that Assad was gassing his people, when a short Internet search will reveal that our close allies, Israel, with their illegal occupation of the Golan Heights (stolen from Syria in the 80’s) were doing the gassing, with the full knowledge our state department, to create a reason to invade Syria. There is a lot more going on here than I can go into here, but Iraq, Syria (and the fictioutous ‘moderate Syrian Army), Libya, Lebanon (and soon, if we have our way, Yemen, Pakistan, Jordan and Iran will also be decimated. These countries will be fertile for the growth of whatever cleverly named terrorist group Israel have made up and trained, to bring complete destabilization to the western world. I would not make these things up.
So many American’s are absolutely functioning with zero morality. They can take all of Hillary’s criminal activities,,lest we forget the Clinton Foundation as one of the largest legal imbezzlers of money from the wickedest countries and people on this planet. Yeah, they know how terrible she is. Donald Trump has Nothing in his closet, although ‘Joe Six Pack’ thinks the media is honest, so while every single effort has been made by almost all of the mass media (which leans heavily left), they can’t find anything on Trump. But every day, we hear little about Clinton, but always something fabricated and meant to continue the daily cycle of ‘hate Trump.’ The thing that scares those of us who have morals and a vague understanding of Geopolitics, know that the ‘Globalists’, the George Soros, Henry Kissinger, the Bush crime family, and endless neo-cons and bad actors from think tanks (such as the Bilderberg Group) who groom both the Democrat and Republican candidates to further their Globalist agenda, are almost finished dismantling America. They have allowed so many illegals in,,and made it so easy for them to just keep coming, plus they are bringing people from North Africa and Iran, claiming they are Syrian refugees to further destroy our country. Look at Europe. If you think those bad decisions and that politically correct garbage just accidentally happened, you might be a Hillary Clinton voter. For those of you who are Christians, or just understand prophecies of long ago, we are now reaching a New World Order. Hillary could care less about any of us. She is a psychopath. She will sell us even further down the river than Obama (if that’s possible) because both serve the same masters.
Trump is no fool. He is so much more well aware of the New World Order and the fact that someone has to try to stop Hillary from taking our rights,,merging us with Mexico and Canada,,and eventually, with ever increasing terrorism, we won’t want to even leave our houses. And every time, the Government will come with the answers. The very few members of Congress who are not bought and paid for will be shown the door. We will, literally, in the next 20 years, see specific Biblical Prophecy occurring before our eyes. For those that think we’re in it now,,I would beg to differ. We have our yippie toe in the kiddie pool.
Donald Trump, for all his flaws, gives a damn about all of us. He has a wonderful family. His daughter sings the highest praises of her father. When’s the last time Chelsea did that? Trump even became a born-again Christian this past weekend. He has not talked much of it, as it’ll just be called a ploy.
But look, Christian, Atheist, Catholic, Jew, Muslim,,all those Americans who are moral, decent people that know someone is watching, somewhere,,and we owe it to each other to make up for the blind, ‘low-information’ or just those of low intelligence, brought up in a school system that taught them not to think too much for themselves, which led to their adaptation of ‘a herd-like’ mentality,,we owe it, as thinking individuals, to save this country. Unfortunately, Bernie is not with us. But for all his hatred for Trump,,which was over the top,,the two agreed on about half of their platform. Neither of them agreed with much of Hillary’s lies.
Please, go in and vote for Trump. Ignore the lies. Realize every mass media television station, media publication, etc,..is in the bag for Hillary. You will not hear the trut from them. They distort truth and convince you of that which is counter to what is honest and decent. You must realize, the devil is coming at you from all sides. He wants Hillary in office. He’ll let her get away with everything. But in the end, we must stand together as Americans and tell the mega-rich who own Hillary and who want to sell this country out to their New Worl Order, to go take a long walk on a short pier. If we can get Trump in the door, and we can fire Comey and get Chris Christie in the A.G.spot, all we need to do is make an example of a few people. Hillary and Bill Clinton need to go in for life, as does Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. I believe Obama is guilty of high treason and he needs to be given the most severe punishment. Traitor’s justice is the kind of justice that sends a message down for 100 years,,if you serve two Masters, or you have dual citizenship, although you really put one country before the U.S., you are suspect (another story for another day). Trump knows things that many of you do not,,and some do,,and either way,,justice must come, to heal wounds inflicted 15 years ago. Trump knows what really happened. Do you? It wasn’t a bunch of Arabs with a clever name. That much I assure you.
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The Independent Thinker
July 8, 2016 at 12:13 am
I love your words.
As I canvassed all over the country, I found Trump supporters to be infinitely more informed than Clinton voters.
I won’t vote for him, but I agree that he is much better than Hillary Clinton.
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Philip Norris
May 22, 2016 at 4:31 pm
DEAREST $HILLERY SUPPORTERS,
Just because Berners will NOT vote for $hillery does that mean that they won’t vote for a Dem Congress. I think you are being EXTREMELY foolish if you believe the child pornographer will allow Bernie or Tulsi on ANY important committee, let alone accept them as a chair.
Again, you give fear tactics and IF those were TRULY that important to you, you would have been LISTENING from day one when the vast majority of Berners said they would NOT vote for $hillery and YOU would have fought harder to get Bernie the nomination. YOU and other $hillery supporters would have done more against her cheating, you and they would have said that her use of child porn was beyond acceptable and that it was reprehensible. YOU would have demanded she be held accountable and NOT REWARDED!!!!
Well, people like you willing to be scared and blackmailed into who you vote for deserve who you get, sadly YOU decided to take the nation down because YOU chose to ignore and make excuses for what $hillery did to win. So, you celebrate with the coronated one while she gets her nomination and you believe she is better than Trump… but the truth is you will KNOW the wrong person got the nomination, because YOU will know in your heart and soul that ANYONE who had to cheat and use child porn to win, does NOT deserve to be president but should be in prison because that person made a mockery of our freedoms.
Go ahead and vote for her in November, be proud of yourself that you have to vote for a person who cheated, who used child pornography to win. Be proud of yourself that you KNEW there was a better candidate BUT YOU chose not to fight for him…. BUT DON’T YOU EXPECT ME TO SHED TEARS FOR YOUR SORRY ASS WHEN SHE LOSES AND WE GET TRUMP, BECAUSE YOU DID THIS WITH YOUR BLIND, ALL EXCUSING, SUPPORT OF HER!!!!!
PS….
She has stated that her Supreme nominees will NOT have to support gay marriage and that abortion is “on the table, as long as there is allowance for medical necessities.”
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The Independent Thinker
May 23, 2016 at 7:00 pm
Clinton is moderate Republican to the bone.
She told her supporters that she was a Democrat and they took her at her word.
Insane.
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Michelle
May 23, 2016 at 10:08 am
How quickly we forget! https://www.facebook.com/mcallout/videos/594877557337508/
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The Independent Thinker
May 23, 2016 at 6:58 pm
I did not forget.
Hillary Clinton wishing death on Barack Obama so she can gain the nomination.
Disgusting.
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Alvoris Hood Jr.
May 23, 2016 at 3:26 pm
Evidence seems to prove that her supporters AREN’T better than that. They are on the level of tea-baggers in their wanton display of ignorance toward FACTS #NeverHillary #BernieOrBust
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The Independent Thinker
May 23, 2016 at 6:47 pm
The ones who come on social media and deny that the election is rigged are beyond hope.
Still there are millions of casual voters who simply do not follow politics who voted for her, just because they didn’t know any better.
Those are the people we need to reach.
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Brandon Nelson
May 23, 2016 at 9:02 pm
You missed that NGPvan that controls all of our voter data, you know where the purges happens? Yeah, it’s run by Hillarys 08 tech lead. Thats right…. soak that in… There is no question this is where the targeted purging is happen. They purge by name not by address and thats how they accidently purged whole buildings in brooklyn… a canvassers goes through the building and updates the minivan app where all strong supporters are. Every time you agree to a bernie event, it logs this data and that is accessible to anyone with VAN access… shocking is not the word i would use, I would call it an obvious set up.
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The Independent Thinker
May 24, 2016 at 10:27 pm
Yep.
Exactly my thoughts.
I use the mini-van app when canvassing, so I know the ins and outs of it.
This is exactly what they did.
You nailed it.
Elizabeth Whitehouse, I heard him Say that it was OK for ILLEGALS to vote
No, you did not. I’m assuming that you have only watched the edited version of the by now infamous interview. Even so, it is hard to justify the idea that he said it was OK for illegals to vote.
WHAT?? What are you talking about, Liz?
TrueAmerica said; —I heard him Say that it was OK for ILLEGALS to vote—
You replied;
—No, you did not. … Even so, it is hard to justify the idea that he said it was OK for illegals to vote.—
Straighten that out, will ya Liz?
And I guess his Administration didn’t hire 3 Muslim brothers to be IT Techs for $160k per year, who went on to steal information on our terror combat strategies and other sensitive information from House foreign committee computers. And as for proof of Hillary Clinton’s wrongdoing – I’ll just laugh. If you didn’t see any proof of that then I will not waste anymore time on you Elizabeth. If you bother to offer another nonsensical reply I won’t be answering – I don’t waste time with remedial discussions and clearly this exception was ill-advised. Get a job or read a book. C ya’.
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I guess you are right. His administration did not hire 3 Muslim brothers to be IT techs. I can find no reference to the events you mention, not even on those sites that one would expect to have a field day with such a story. Obviously you have secret sources.
It’s best if we leave it at that…
Perhaps you are right. We really wouldn’t want you to have to compromise those secret sources, or to admit that you don’t have any.
Why are you acting Dumb , how many times do people have to repeat the same thing to you. ??
It doesn’t matter how often you repeat garbage, it is still garbage.
So, why are you adding to it ??
Instead of sounding like a 10-year-old, tell me what about my comments is garbage.
You are acting just like a typical Troll .
So you can’t answer my question.
Just to reply to your comment that you “have seen no evidence of a double standard”: Of course you haven’t! That makes my case. Libs never think they get away with everything, Hillary’s not a traitor and Nancy Pelosi makes sense. I won’t respond any further except to say that if I had disrespected Obama the way that you and your pals are disrespecting President Trump, I’d have been called a bigot, racist, masogenist, xenophobe, etc. You see you all think it’s fine to trash a conservative with no factual information but when Hillary was caught red-handed mishandling classified information (the one thing she was expected to know how to do as SEC of State) it was the vast right-wing conspiracy. Just one example. Please do not reply because it just isn’t worth any more of my time. Thanks.
If you don’t want me to reply, don’t encourage me by posting seriously biased opinions.
I cannot remember where I said I had not seen evidence of a double standard and therefore have no idea of the context. There are double standards everywhere. This could be the uniting theme of all my comments. Can I point out one or two in the rest of your comment. You are suggesting that
* it is quite acceptable to call Hillary a traitor, but unacceptable to accuse Bush and Cheney of war crimes
*you can claim that Hillary was caught red-handed mishandling classified information, but you have no problem with Trump receiving a security briefing on an unsecured cell phone in public.
As far as respect is concerned, it has to be earned. President Obama was respected by a majority of Americans and an overwhelming majority of other nations. The respect was well-deserved because, whatever you thought about his policies, he always conducted himself with dignity, decorum and empathy. For this he was given the Nobel Peace Prize.
I have yet to see Donald Trump do or say one thing that is worthy of respect. That is why he gets very little.
Oh please lady take your ass somewhere else but not on our post. You look just like a real idiot. Do you get that? Obama was a Muslim that destroyed this country. Can you get that? Now take your rotten stinking butt somewhere else. Don’t you get it? We detest liberals.
I’m not going to bother to discuss whether or not Obama was a Muslim, but I would like to know in what way he destroyed the country.
Highest national debt I history due to the greatest run-away spending of any president in history.n
The greatest invasion of illegal immigrants in our entire history.
Destroyed the equality and social acceptance that has taken this country 50 years to establish.
Destroyed the respect for justice, law enforcement and politics in this nation.
Covered up for his ITS manager and fro Hillary Clinton.
Lied to us with either half-truths or out and out lies.
Failed to back his own commitments (red line I the sand.) ignored the killing of four good Americans at Benghazi; taking action would have had to condemn the lack of action Hillary Clinton ignored her obligations and responsibilities!.
Turned his back on the nations immigration laws and immigration program. Stated he would deport ANY illegal immigrant who commits a crime but then turned dozens of them out of prison years and years before their sentence was completed and allowed them to go free on our streets.
Can you inhale and exhale without assistance? I used to have a tolerance built up for what passes for liberal logic, but apparently you have contracted a new kind of powerful for of stupid. Hopefully you are not contagious.
You are an idiot!!!!!
Your question alone tells me you definitely support anti American values and will promote the Muslim takeover efforts of the past failed 8 years where undercover was the theme of what was going on. A disguise at the highest level. Ms Whitehouse, take yourself off the throne long enough to see the truth and then do something constructive to help rectify the damage.
He was a muslim plant lady! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/09beec8f6bc041515fd3a86dd05ade9b261eebeb8d65335ecf22389a795ba68d.jpg
I think it is quite a stretch to decide that President Obama was a muslim plant on the strength of a few words taken out of context. You may reconsider if you read more of his speech to the United Nations: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obamafuture.asp
But, I’m sure you have lots more evidence that he was a muslim plant, which leads to the question – who planted him?
He himself through out his life!!
Georgy Soros! Rex Judarum![ That’s Latin ,for you Illiterate Trolls!] He’ll side with Anyone/Anything to Bring down Our System
I read his books before he was elected.
I knew what he was. What kind of President he would be.
He did not disappoint me.
He is to GO down in History as the Worst President that we have ever Had.
He has been all talk and little action. He claim to fame has been his ability to stand in front of a crowd and make great speeches, but as soon as he leaves the stage he forgets everything he has said and nothing ever got done. Obama has no program or project skills; thrives on lies, half-truths, and saying what the people wanted to hear!
Bad thing is. He is still pulling strings. Now he is doing it against Trump!
Elizabeth Whitehouse(very imaginative pseudonym) I will encourage you to do one thing: Seek help where ever you can find it. I’m sure you want to be able to function in groups without animous, so give it a try and then try it again.
But for now you should really just take it easy and stop the madness. Good bye and good luck!
I was Christened Elizabeth Anne and married a man named Whitehouse. Not a pseudonym.
The rest of your comment is a little hard to fathom. You think I want to be able to function without spirit, vehemence and resolution? I think those are rather good qualities to have when having discussions. But as the word animous is obsolete, I’m guessing that perhaps you meant animus.
BULL all around! OBAMA was “GIVEN” the nobel peace prize before he did anything as president. What makes you think Obama was or is respected by other countries or Americans?? Probably the same corrupt media that bad mouthed Bush and Cheney unfairly. You my dear have been propaganized!!!
I am not by any stretch of the imagination your “dear”. But during Obama’s tenure I spent between one and four weeks in Madagascar, Peru, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Guadeloupe, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Ethiopia, Italy, France, India, China, Cuba and Iran. Apart from a couple in Costa Rica who has left the US the day after Obama was elected, everyone I met thought very highly of President Obama.
And incidentally, he did not receive the Nobel Prize for what he had done, but rather for who he is – a wonderful human being who cares about the welfare of his fellow-Americans, AND those who have not been fortunate to end up in the US.
You can reply if you like, but: https://a-better-way.me/2017/02/23/ending-the-disqus-sion/
Seeing the list of counties you say you visited I see many I a few we have in common and if you visit the socialist, Marxist, communist and terrorists in them i’m sure they did think highly of their follow traveler/ useful idiot. Who he was was a murdering/ war criminal that droned thousands rather then capture and question people them. He talked about peace in the Middle East then proceeded to burn it down!!! His gift of the “prize” was a protest of Bush Just like the NWO is protesting the TRUMP! Trump the Kenyan / Indonesian was never naturalized as a citizen and cares more for his radical Islamist brother than any American!
China, Cuba and Iran!!! Did you miss your friends in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, Chad, Somalia and North Korea? they would have thought highly of him too.
How Much U.S. Tax-payer Cash,$$ has ‘Barky’ O’Bullshat’ given to those afore-mentioned [and I use the term Loosely] Nations??
Packaged nonsense that will not sell even in yard and garage sells! Little chance any of those people/groups had ANY Knowledge of Obama before he was elected president? One term as a senator with very few Americans even knowing who he was before he ran for the White House. I think most of us were extremely happy to see him elected (no one wanted . Palin anywhere near the White House) for two reason; great to see the mold broken and show this country was supportive of Blacks; we had spent fifty years working to bring equality to the various races and religions in this country and he was living proof we meant what we preached; but, in his eight years in the White House he virtually destroyed the efforts of those fifty years and left office with more racial friction, violence and negativism than our long years of improvement.
And Second; His last term, the one we had such great hopes of bringing great things to American, became his worst. His great speaking ability became the only success for this country he can claim; but his talk was just that – all talk, He would give a great speech, walk off the stage and forget everything he said. His impressed leaders of foreign countries almost the same way; give a great speech, give them millions and millions – billions of dollars — for that too they respected him but like American; they surely learned the money was worth more than his word or efforts!
Go to Huffin-Blow Post and Blow ! Paid Azz Troll!
Donald Trump is the best President or equal to President Ronald Reagan.
I have never seen or heard the Undemocratic Democrats to say the truth
Concur. The people responding to your posts are perfect examples of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Trump is a perfect example as well. Welcome to Reality TV America.
If you want to accuse Bush and Cheney of war crimes then you had better include every member of Congress who voted more than once to invade Iraq, including Hillary. Hillary used her private server for her entire time as Secretary of State knowing full well that it was not secure. If the call to Trump was supposed to be secure I blame whomever forwarded that call for the breach. Frankly I believe that considering all the security leaks there is still a large cabal of Obama appointees who have made it their mission to undermine the Trump Presidency. It seems pretty obvious that if the majority of Americans respected Obama and approved of his foreign and domestic policies they would have heeded him when he begged them to vote for Hillary for President to continue those policies. You had previously stated that your preferred candidate was Bernie Sanders, an avowed Socialist and open borders proponent. Since President Trump is committed to putting Americans first and securing our borders I doubt that you will ever be willing to respect his words or actions. It is a shame Elizabeth that after all the years you lived here as a resident alien you chose to become a citizen only to vote to change what has made our nation great.
Blame Kilroy he is still around from WW II.
Kilroy did not vote to go to war with Iraq.
There were enough people that voted to go to war with Iraq that it cannot be said they were wrong.
I lost a very good friend because he believed that we should go and I did not. He was a well informed individual and felt very deeply that we had to do what the President said.
Now you come along and start judging people because of their vote. What information did you have when the vote was taken that would have made you vote NO?
You are a 20/20 hindsight person. Looking back on what we know now and blaming people that had responsibilities when they had to vote.
Allen I am not blaming anyone. They did what they felt was right at the time. All I was saying was that those who claim former President Bush and Dick Cheney should be tried for war crimes should realize that they were not alone in making the decision to go to war. Everyone involved in that decision did so according to the information received from intelligence agencies.
OK
You get a lot from people when you promise them a lot and give them a lot; even if they do not need it, earn it or deserve it. A lot of fancy talking with no follow up or efforts to do the things that need to be done only drives up national budgets and create discontent when the year round Christmas falls through!
You are exactly right. Liberals are incapable of real logic. If they had any sense, they would appreciate the fact that Trump is trying to get America working and manufacturing goods here again, that he is trying to keep out people that want to kill us, that he has promised huge tax cuts for consumers and industry, and that he is doing what he promised before he was elected. The Liberals ignore the fact that Hillary is a liar and was caught lying many times, that Obama was a liar’s liar and apparently is without conscience. It is no wonder he was a failure, he never had a job and knows nothing about running a business.
Well said! Really a shame liberals have difficulty with all things being equal.
Agree. Liberals should not be called liberals. they are anti-freedom, anti-American, pro islam, they are just the opposite of liberals.
Obama was the worst president ever, rasist, pro nazi and pro muslim, America hater antisemite and a big failure
They are communists. All 30 million of them. They are guilty of multiple counts of High Treason during wartime, murder, fraud, conspiracy, and uncountable other felonies and misdemeanors. High Treason during wartime is a capital offense. I pray that all of them will end up in solitary confinement for 23.5 hours per day in GITMO for the rest of their miserable lives.
GOD Bless and GOD Help us,
rich!
Agree, absolutely
EXCELLENT!
Why not call the what they are.
Imoral Communists?
o’bozo, is a Muslim,
was RAISED as a Muslim,
Will Die as a Muslim.
Starting around ten years ago, Obama and Hillary ran against each other for the White House. That campaign was marked with a lot of the same crap Hillary tried in this campaign and much of the outcome was the same; the obvious being Obama’s win over Hillary leaving her in second place.
Hillary’s campaign this last go around had much of the same results; crooked tactics, lies more interest in getting campaign funds than in seeing a clean campaign, and the results – another SECOND PLACE!
In spite of what should have been the greater choice based on her past, positions held, and name recognition Hillary should have been a shoe in. However, her past was too well for her failures, lies, her theft of government property and certainly the most notable, her failed duty as Secretary of State, her illegal server, her repeated lies about it and her sending highly classified over her illegal server then denying it before finally admitting it and then blaming her staff for illegally sending classified information over it. Throughout her campaign she was caught over and over in lies and failures – – – now she and the Democratic leadership wants to blame it all onto the Trump victory.
You’re absolutely correct. The media is also so upset, and blaming the Trump victory, because they got in bed with the wrong candidate. That’s really the beauty of the entire situation – the people were listening and not the way the hillaryites wanted them to be. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. The DNC and their star candidate should be thinking about that, but instead they’re throwing one huge, collective tantrum. Instead of addressing the problem, they and their liberal minions run around hysterically and futilely attacking President Trump. The best part is though, that for all their hystrionics, Donald Trump did win. He is and will remain the President of the United States! I’d like to think that the Dems as well as the 16 Republicans who lost the primary listened to the American people and now know that business as usual is no longer acceptable; or in Hillary’s case, public life really does mean serving the public, not lining your pockets because of your “public position” and perpetrating fraud against those that you were supposed to be serving.
Go figure! And this bitch has the nerve to be thinking about running again in 2020!
Because you are a know it all so why should I argue .
Why indeed.
You asked for a source. It was given. Do your own search and see the interview and the media that recorded it.
I have, Jan. I have even posted video of the full interview here. And I even googled Ms Rodriguez to find out her immigration status – born in America.
And the Presidents dialogue and words were ………….?
Great suggestion Jan but I think her logic ship sailed a long time ago. Do you remember Kevin Costner’s “Field of Dreams” with the theme of ‘Build it and they will come’? We’ll apply a similar idea in dealing with Ms. Whitehouse ‘Ignore it and it will go away’! Worth a try, right? When dealing with such a person who clearly has lost her grip on the handle we call reality, it’s best for us to smile politely and back away slowly. Good luck! Lol
Elizabeth Whitehouse is a moron who thinks Moby Dick is a venereal disease. Don’t even debate her!
Grow Up Retired, your nonsense makes you look foolish. I am retired as well, big deal, the word Troll makes you look foolish as well.It appears that Elizabeth is correct.
Are you her spokes person ?? She keeps proving that she is here to just create havoc.
It starts with you!
That is sooo much more mature!
What are you talking about? Your golden calf, your fake god obama said it out of own mouth but I guess you just worship him but do not believe his own lips. Let me be redundant, YOUR A DUMBASS!!!
The’ Obammy Yo Mammy’ Spewing Points!
And that’s what we get from you the same old garbage—how many names are you using?
Just the one. But it is my name and that is me in the photo (with my little lemur friend). I do not hide behind a pseudonym.
Only if you eat it up to make it disappear ?
You must be referring to your “GARBAGE IN/GARBAGE OUT”! Consider dumping your TRASH daily and maybe your “SMELL” won’t be so offensive!? Or just run your Regressive garbage disposal daily! Really Eliz, I believe that you probably retired to early and just cannot find your second “life”? Maybe they would consider taking you back? On second thought, NOT! I believe G.S. should consider whether he’s getting his monies worth or NOT!? And besides, what does illegal mean in your dictionary?
Correct in YOUR Case!
You are right the garbage that comes from your mouth is garbage no matter how many times you say it
I guess it still is a legitimate claim that there are none so blind as those who will not see!
Oh Elizabeth, did you ever resolve your SSN discrepancy?
Did I have one?
Yes you did if you are the same Elizabeth Whitehouse who was a former British subject and came to America because her late husband got a good job offer. You see Elizabeth, I have my memory intact and remember our former discussion. You claimed that your SSN and your different family member’s SSN didn’t match each other’s initial three digits. This you used as a launching point to defend the fact that B.O.’s SSN came from Connecticut even though he never lived in Connecticut.
Elizabeth Whitehouse, Elizabeth Whitehouse, Elizabeth Whitehouse, Elizabeth Whitehouse, Elizabeth Whitehouse, Elizabeth Whitehouse, Elizabeth Whitehouse, Elizabeth Whitehouse, Elizabeth Whitehouse, You’re right!!!!!
Back at You!
This person is a paid baiter…delete them ASAP! Do not engage!
I just wonder how many names she uses ??
E W is not acting!!!she3 is the poster child for stupidity1!
CNN is the Worst, Racist Liars! The only news I watch is Fox News! They are very fair!
A year ago I would have laughed at you. But since the Trump phenomenon, I have to say that Fox has become considerably fairer. Don’t take that as an out and out endorsement; it merely means that some of their spokespeople – Megyn Kelly and Chris Wallace come to mind – have actually come to question the orthodox right wing ideologies.
who the hell needs your endorsement lady ? get lost you troll .. bob ster
As I was until this moment unaware of your existence, I have not in any way endorsed you.
Last time I looked, the first amendment says it is quite OK for me to offer well-thought out, well reasoned arguments on any site I like. It even allows you to be offensive if that is what you choose to be.
The one and only left to listen to for fair and balance news.
Yours is a foolish, meaningless comment. President Obama led the charge for illegal invaders and illegal voting at large.
“The Obama administration violated the law to cover up its plans to rush tax money to rush through citizenship for millions of legal and illegal aliens just in time for the 2016 elections,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “The Obama administration imported voters and granted unilateral amnesty to help win elections at the expense of the safety and security of American citizens.” . . . . JW
Possibly (my comment is meaningless and foolish).
Yours, on the other hand is inaccurate – except for the last sentence which sends chills up my spine. I dread what can happen when one party holds the presidency and then runs amok.
Elizabeth, It is true. He was speaking to a “dreamer”. He told her to vote.
No, it’s not true. She was born in Chicago. Her parents are Puerto Rican. She is an American citizen.
Frack You Lizzie Krapp -House!
And I love you too.
Really?? Come to Fla. an’ show me!!
Good! Bend over!
Lizzie Krapphouse! How much is The ‘Sith Lord’, “Darth Soros” Paying you, to disrupt Intelligent Political Conversation!??
No-one can be this Persistent for Free!
One can’t interrupt what doesn’t exist. I am not paid, but from now on, I am going to spend my time more productively: https://a-better-way.me/2017/02/23/ending-the-disqus-sion/
I never heard it on any of the main stream fake news outlets. I heard the sound bytes on a couple of the political talk radio shows and thought they’d probably gotten them from somewhere more obscure.
Obama said it on national TV, all you illgeals get out 7 vote
Amen. I heard that too. Also, according to FOIA, there were 1.5 million illegals who voted and guess what states? California, New York and Colorado, who won those States??
He most certainly did not say “all you illgeals get out 7 vote”.
Ms. Rodriguez was representing the undocumented, illegal immigrants when she asked the question. Can you not hear that ???
Yes, she was representing the fear that they feel about being exposed in some way and having immigration come after them. She was expressing the concern of anchor babies, (among others who have every right to vote) that they may be exposing their undocumented parents. The President reassured her that the ballot is secret, but that it is very important for the citizens in the community to vote on behalf of those who do not have a voice.
Her description was thus “many of the millennials dreamers, undocumented”. She calls them citizens…all. Why would she use the word millennials as to having a fear of voting if she was not speaking of the whole class as undocumented ? Her wording was quite descriptive as to her question. How could the word “undocumented” not raise a red flag to the presidents answer to not separate his answer. Not smart or is it just that he doesn’t separate the fact, that laws do not permit undocumented people to vote.
Undocumented = Illegal as for him being smart he did say there were 57 States .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLLt-a6dI_0
watch and then tell me where he said that illegals should vote.
Again….Ms. Rodriguez was representing the undocumented, illegal immigrants when she asked the question. Can you not hear that ???
https://youtu.be/9yf4FqcVK_0
Then you have long lines of illegals getting drivers licenses…. To bad ICE wasn’t around all the DMV’s at that time.
https://youtu.be/4kQQNvMx754
And you wonder why many of us are rooting for big round ups and deportation
https://youtu.be/B65pLsah3XE
The gal in the first clip calls them citizens……I’m sorry honey their ILLEGAL ALIENS…..that’s what they are and all they are.
I have no problem with deporting criminals.
Elizabeth Whitehouse, You are and IDIOT the Proof is everywhere in each state if you would stop watching the Mindless Media you might learn something.
For a start, I do not watch television at all. For follow up, I can find multiple sources to refute every one of your “proofs” that there is widespread voter fraud.
If you don’t watch television at all , then how do you know what and how it was said , or what was being talked about !!!!!!!!!!!
Because, R.T., there is this thing called You Tube where one can view – as often as one wishes – things that were previously broadcast on a network, or in this case, a latino internet news outlet. It’s called Mitú.
By the way: https://a-better-way.me/2017/02/23/ending-the-disqus-sion/
I recall Obama saying to new immigrants they should not be fearful of voting.
I don’t want to sound ageist or anything, but are you suggesting that we should all base our conclusions on the vague recollections of someone who, by his own admission, is worn out?
He said it. Bank on it.
I’m sorry to hear about your physical problems. Actually, I am basing my conclusions on having watched the interview by Gina Rodriguez in full, rather than just an edited version. http://www.snopes.com/obama-encouraged-illegal-aliens-to-vote/
Please note that she was born in Chicago, so her question about “When I vote” has nothing to do with illegals voting.
Standard vetting of immigrant requests were dropped under Obama administration. Many allow to come in as “legals” were not vetted at all in the rush to get more democrat voters. Obama ordered ICE to “catch and release criminal aliens. Criminal aliens were of no matter to Obama so long as they voted democrat. Now watch as the immigrant criminal element chooses between deportation and running to Canada. Obama cares not for America nor Americans. His is to become president of the NWO. So what choice did American voters have? A criminal and clone of the Communist and President Obama or D.T. and hope for the best. A lousy choice to be sure, but, those were the cards dealt to voters. Small wonder D.T. won. Now there will be blood in the streets for quite some time to come as not all criminal aliens chose to run.
You are right that Trump won because Republicans have been denigrating Hillary for as long as she has been running for office, and he did a pretty good job himself of making many Americans believe that she is a monster.
I can’t find much else in your post that comes anywhere close to being right. I could plaintively ask you once again to provide your sources for an order to ICE to catch and release CRIMINALS, alien or otherwise, but it probably won’t happen.
Obama lied to us and fed us so many half-truths and manipulated information that he worked himself into a corner. He ended up having to sell his agendas through a bought and paid for media where he could go on TV and say what the media would then support and build up. The media would pretty much support anything Obama said in most cases making NO attempt to verify the presidents comments. Obama had a $2.2 Billion Dollar marketing budget at his disposal to buy the medias support.
Today, the media is digging up anything and everything they can twist Trump comments around and change the intended Trump comments. We have seen it over and over where the media will take a Trump comment and delete select words changing the outcome of the statement. The best example was when Trump stated we should not allow any immigrants into this country until the President could assure us they were being vetted to the maximum. The media and Obama quickly deleted the words – UNTILL THE PRESIDENT CAN ASSURE US – thus turning the Trump statement into something that was not said. BUT, neither Obama nor the media acknowledged the “editing” and Trump just let it pass.
Because the media was being paid by Obama, and because they had been allowed to get by with the editing and false comments they have made it a habit.
it is hard to separate Honest reporting and false reporting as the media has become so alienated from the truth and the credibility of days gone by!
https://a-better-way.me/2017/02/23/ending-the-disqus-sion/
Do you get paid to be stupid or does it come naturally? Please join a site that caters to idiots such as yourself.
His own mouth you dumbass.
Still stupid I see.
It was on TV not just a made up story
What a legal genius! Do you even have any idea what treason is? Can you read the Constitution of the US? Now Robert E Lee committed treason.
I wonder the same thing . The Republicans didn’t want to do anything while he was in office afraid it may look “racist ” , but that is bs ! When you have someone So Dirty trying to destroy America , and Not doing his job as a president , Keeping America Safe and Following the Law , you know he’s up to something bad . At least now they should go after him . I still question if he was ever ligit to take the job .
She voted 5 times over several elections, not 5 times in one election.
Sorry RT and MARYANNE, I should have read your posts before I said the same thing.
🙁
It seems that Elizabeth is confused it question from Millennials, DREAMers, undocumented citizens is So if I vote ( will anything happen ) and he says Not true, and the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself.
Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/11/obama-encourages-illegal-aliens-to-vote/#vF0WCBXmBjGEbq4G.99
Exactly — where where the indictments for Obummer and Jerry Browns
Encouragement on TV For illegals to vote. Where was congress mandating justice? A Complete travesty of justice. Running a corrupt and unjust system only adds fuel for our team ( The good guys).
Obama is a Lop-Eared Son of as Byotch! Literally!!
So true and Dumbo should have gone to jail along with Jerry Brown
For encouraging illegals to vote in our elections? So much corruption!
I can’t see how people can listen to the question and the answer obama gave that he did not tell ” undocumented citizens ” = Illegal aliens to vote !
Pure encouragement and he did not say anything about the legality
Of non citizens voting in our elections.
Fact: 24 million voter registrations were invalid.
Fact: Clinton received about 2.9 million more votes nationwide, a margin of 2.1% – not a “landslide”
Fact: Trump won with 56% of electors in the Electoral College, winning 30 states with 306 pledged electors out of 538 – not a “landslide” but a solid win.
Fact: More “faithless electors” declined to vote for Clinton than for Trump.
Fact: No evidence has been brought forward, and no charges have been filed against any electors for being bribed.
Unanswered questions -how many illegals voted??? With 24 mil invalid
Registrations I’ll bet Trump won in all areas Electoral and popular.
Now we know why there is such a big fight against illegals- Dems depend on them to vote/protest ( useful robots- Sorros guidance).
Yes the dems fight for Illegals and keep saying there is no voter fraud !
Also they dig up voters , The dead are likely to vote for them !
We may find out.
Trump has ordered an Investigation, of Voter rolls and Votes.
I didn’t hear him tell them to get out and vote, but I did hear him telling an immense group of Mexican rejects that they wouldn’t be punished if they did so.
The Mexicans that he was talking to probably understood ENGLISH better than the lefties that say he did not !
Obama came out and said that illegals should vote!
Of course he did , she started a question about Illegals , then explained why she called them citizens , then went back to the question about voting and ICE , then he said not true , in other words nothing would happen if Illegals voted !
I can’t see why more people can’t see that !
Well, hellery won the popular Vote ,from four countys of California, with the Votes of those counties illegals Vote.
That and the fact that it is comi-fornia !
Obama would have changed our flag and our constitution had he not met enough resistance from the people!
He knew the Democrats would never win their position in Congress back without doing whatever they had to do to win that election. They had made all kinds of promises to the Hispanics in attempts to won votes; they have been promising the moon and everything else to Hispanics and Blacks for year’s but never follow through with their promises.
It is obvious the only way they were going to win the popular vote was through false promises and fraud; even Hillary’s Billion Dollar campaign fund though could not win the final vote!
We see even clearer today why she lost, why the democrats lost; they act like children; they scheme like the worst of criminals and will take this country down before they will accept their responsibilities to act like representatives of the people and serve this nation as they were elected to do! The Democratic party will only do more harm and hinder this nations best interests as long as the Democratic party continues letting their overly left leadership drive the [arty. Democrats need to stand up to the radicals driving their party and force them to start working to fix America instead of leading the party into further failure; there is nothing to gain for anyone or the nation by creating bigger problems. We have faced those problems long enough – it is time to fix them rather that continue with the childish mentality we continue to see coming out of the Democratic party; eight years of it is enough – – – it is time to see it stop!
Actually,o’bozo, never used the word ILLEGALS or ILLEGAL.
The only states that made any difference in the election were Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Florida.
All of the foolish talk about who voted makes no difference, because the Electoral College give some states more electoral votes per person then other states.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2012/11/presidential_election_a_map_showing_the_vote_power_of_all_50_states.html
A-12 Mini Excursion 1: Apportionment Today
State Population Seats
Wyoming
495,304
1
495,304
Rhode Island
1,049,662
2
524,831
Nebraska
1,715,369
3
571,790
Iowa
2,931,923
5
586,385
West Virginia
1,813,077
3
604,359
New Mexico
1,823,821
3
607,940
Hawaii
1,216,642
2
608,321
Vermont
609,890
1
609,890
Minnesota
4,925,670
8
615,709
Colorado
4,311,882
7
615,983
New Hampshire
1,238,415
2
619,208
North Carolina
8,067,673
13
620,590
Missouri
5,606,260
9
622,918
Alaska
628,933
1
628,933
Georgia
8,206,975
13
631,306
Ohio
11,374,540
18
631,919
Tennessee
5,700,037
9
633,337
Massachusetts
6,355,568
10
635,557
Alabama
4,461,130
7
637,304
Maine
1,277,731
2
638,866
Louisiana
4,480,271
7
640,039
California
33,930,798
53
640,204
Florida
16,028,890
25
641,156
Arizona
5,140,683
8
642,585
North Dakota
643,756
1
643,756
Virginia
7,100,702
11
645,518
Pennsylvania
12,300,670
19
647,404
New Jersey
8,424,354
13
648,027
Idaho
1,297,274
2
648,637
Texas
20,903,994
32
653,250
Illinois
12,439,042
19
654,686
New York
19,004,973
29
655,344
Washington
5,908,684
9
656,520
Maryland
5,307,886
8
663,486
Michigan
9,955,829
15
663,722
Nevada
2,002,032
3
667,344
Arkansas
2,679,733
4
669,933
South Carolina
4,025,061
6
670,844
Wisconsin
5,371,210
8
671,401
Kansas
2,693,824
4
673,456
Kentucky
4,049,431
6
674,905
Indiana
6,090,782
9
676,754
Connecticut
3,409,535
5
681,907
Oregon
3,428,543
5
685,709
Oklahoma
3,458,819
5
691,764
Mississippi
2,852,927
4
713,232
Utah
2,236,714
3
745,571
South Dakota
756,874
1
756,874
Delaware
785,068
1
785,068
Montana
905,316
1
905,316
Total
281,424,177
how do you know? The most reliable source says 1.5 million might have voted.
legal as long as they don’t get caught…
Our ONLY, jailed, attorney-general was Nixon’s first, John Mitchell!
Our ONLY VP, to enter a plea bargain, was Nixon’s first, Spiro Agnew!
Our ONLY president, to accept a pardon, was Nixon!
PERFECTLY CLEAR?
It’s perfectly clear that they didn’t do half the shit obunghole’s attorney general did or for that matter Spiro Agnew wasn’t the demwit that obunghole’s VP was. As for Nixon, he was a choir boy next to Obunghole! GOT IT?
I hope not to David but do you remember obunghole telling all the illegals on national TV to go ahead and vote because no one would come after them for breaking the law? What does anyone expect with a POS like that telling them it’s okay? Why isn’t that a federal offense? He should face a firing squad or a public hanging!
The old double standard rears its ugly head yet again!
Call me stupid (as people have) but what double standard are you referring to?
The one where Democrats commit a whole host of crimes discriminatory acts, helping Illegals to vote, etc. And they are NEVER held accountable. But if a Republican/Conservative looks at someone funny – string him up. The misperception that keeps on giving.
What you cite would indeed be double standard, but I see no evidence that any of that has happened.
Not very good examples as there is no evidence whatsoever that Democrats helped illegals to vote, and quite a lot indicating that Republicans work hard at suppressing voting. To hold someone accountable, you first have to show that they have done something wrong.
There can be no doubt it was an organized effort just as the demonstration at the Trump Rally’s and much of the demonstrations and violence that continue today were financed and carried out by the Democrats or/and under their control!
They continue to show so little respect for the nation and the rest of the people of the nation!
Democrats believe they can do about anything they need to do to win; they found that to be wrong though as the last elections showed they were not favored by most voters.
Today we can see why; they lost and they can not accept it as being their fault. Just as Obama and Hillary have demonstrate time and time again; the Democratic mindset is to point fingers and blame others every time they fail.
Obama care is a prime example of their failures! With a majority of the votes they hurriedly pushed Obama care thru, made it a law, and pushed it down our throats. We know the problems they have had making with it and the things they have had to fore onto us; especially the high costs to the Ameriacn people. In spite of the “known problems” they have done nothing to fix the problems. They have though, fought any changes or anything that could have improved Obama Care and made it what it could have been and what we had hoped it would be.
Toady, they are creating more and more hate, discontent and violence on our streets and campuses. Hillary Clinton promised so many people so many “FREE” things if she was elected and now that the people are not going to get the freebies they are up in arms. Obama created a nation of hate, mistrust and lack of respect for people, our government, our justice system and our neighbors and now his failed leadership is on the streets blaming everyone but their party!
How do you “know” this. I suppose God spoke to you in a “dream”!
David Renaud, Thanks to obummer, we are already a third-world country. Obummer allowed millions of ILLEGALS into our country. These ILLEGALS have took millions of American citizens jobs, leaving many of them homeless and hungry. We may NEVER recover for the years obummer was in The American White House.
And yet the Democrats and the MSM, but I repeat myself, are frantic about possible Russian influence. I suspect no Russians voted for Trump.
That was certainly what Obama tried to do to this country.
Where is your proof alex jones??? You also probably still believe that trump had the biggest electorial win since Regan!!! And that Obama was born in Africa!!! And that thousands of muslims celebrated on NJ streets the day after 9/11!!! And that Ted Cruz’s father was involved with lee Harvey Oswald in the JFK assassination!!!!! Everyone knows=trump suck-o-phants!!!!! FAKES!!!!!!
Whos gotten more than 304 Votes in the Electorial College Vote,since Regan?
Are you kidding me??? trump culties are either to stupid, or to lazy, to ever do any research!!! Which one are you and who is Regan??????? Never mind I know which one you are!!!!
I can see that you Are a Complete Moron.
To say nothing of you Being an 100% Ass Hole!
Go back to playing with yourself, in Mommies Basement and leave us Grownups Alone.
You’re not only a trumptard, but also a trumpturd!!! You are even beneath Romper Room!!! In fact, you look great in a brown shirt!!!!! LOCKSTEP!!!!!!!
Bye. Bitch!
Typical trumptard southern bigot!!! Bet you loved Wallace, Maddox and George Lincoln Rockwell too!!!!
The word is ‘electoral’, stupid…and ‘Regan’ was Ronald Reagan’s Chief of Staff after serving as Reagan’s appointee to the Treasury.
George Bush, the first one.
He did? I did not know that. Will you send me a Link ? Please?
Why hasn’t obamma been prosecuted for telling illegals to vote and not to worry about being arrested and this he said on TV?
Stories like this sow the seeds of FAKE NEWS! And only members of the alt-right are gullible enough to swallow it.
Are you paid to post these crapweasel ideas?
Is your real name Dan Rather, rockne10? lol
Speaking of fake news, I just found out that Benghazi raid was the result of video, and I can keep my healthcare plan, and my doctor, and I’m going to save $2500 dollars doing it. By the way I’m now on my 4th Doctor. Three of them gave up their practice.
I feel your pain!! As they say been there, done that and the first yr. alone $20,000 out of pocket for daughter and I with a middle “SILVER” plan. That figure DOES NOT include premiums!
http://www.conservativefreepress.com/politics/democrat-voter-fraud-coming-undone-detroit/
HildaBEAST’s camp trying to STEAL the election, Oh My!!
http://www.conservativefreepress.com/politics/clinton-camp-contact-defiant-electors/
This sheds new light on election/ voter fraud and isn’t it ironic it’s from the Dem.’s?? “Ah Yep” (Dem.’s) we don’t need voter ID’s ’cause there ain’t no fraud! My BUTT!
http://preservefreedom.org/woman-voted-6-times-for-obama/?utm_source=140407PF&utm_campaign=140407PF
People who believe this bulls**t have never achieved more than a D- in a civics class.
I believe it. And I aced civics!
Ditto, Attilathehun! lol
only the liberals
rock, hate to burst your bubble, but the truth is there are ILLEGALS voting and people who voted multiple times in different states or even in the same state but different precincts; moreover, ALL my grades were “A”, even through college…
Our civics classes are corrupt. Look at the teachers and professors…well look if you can stand that ugly sight.
You are apparently drunk on the tea and have fallen prey to the methods of Herr Goebbels. Sleep it off and allow more rational minds to prevail.
Do not forget that this may severely affect local elections also. Another point : Illegal populations are reflected in the Census and the census count is the direct count that is used to add Congressional Districts (the House of Representaives) that in reality should not exist.
Jan Williams, that is quite evident in California. Remember the president of the Calif Senate said openly in the media that half his family was illegal and would be deported for having bogus ID’s? My high hopes are that his family is the immediate target of ICE. 😉
I recall a while back that the president of the senate (this was years ago) actually had a district with a registered voting base less than half that of several orange county GOP districts, but he gained his power due to the higher number of RESIDENTS, which meant more people in his congressional district thus more power.
That CAN happen and HAS happened in USA. Districts are always, well, lately anyway, based on the census. Juveniles, who of course are counted, are ineligible. As were slaves in the antebellum South (but counted as 60% of a person.)
Now people excluded by felony disenfranchisement are also counted. It’s comparable to slavery, similar effect, lesser extent. All parts of the country want to have a big census count, since Federal aid of many sorts is based on population figures. So you’ll need extreme good luck to change our national constitution that way.
Maybe the big floods coming to California and bursting dams will wash away many democrars and illegals.
That has to be one of the most inane statements I have heard in a long time.
Illegals swung the election for McCain…The old codger is way too far gone for Arizona to vote him in ever again or this last time…We all wanted him out. Now he is the Trump spoiler…Time for prison for treason for this old senile fool.
End the voting for those with no identification or registration. That will reveal the facts of who’s voting and how many votes
Simple solution!!
What the hey?? We have NIC to purchase a gun so evidently there is
some kind of data base out there! Now voter ID cards, NOT DL’s, a
separate card with name, state, county, city and MOST OF ALL A PICTURE
on it to eliminate the dead!! P.S. NO BURKA’s ALLOWED!!
Yes it may cost some money but with the exception of “illegals”, citizens pay for a State issued D.L. every 4 or 5 years or so. Actually in hind sight they could add a field to the license which would state, AFTER a NIC type “voter” inquiry, this person is a CERTIFIED registered voter. On the illegals D.L. which I think SUCKS and IMHO also “ILLEGAL” it should state this person IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO VOTE! PERIOD!! Everything is on the State issued D.L. now EXCEPT voting status, if someone doesn’t have a D.L then they should be issued a voter ID card.
“NO ID OF ANY DESCRIPTION? NO VOTING EITHER”!! END OF DISCUSSION!
Then as the person comes in to vote, gets checked in to a SEPARATE computer, does NOT have to be the one that processes the vote, they are then listed so that they CAN NOT VOTE A SECOND OR MORE time(S) or out of their registered state or county!! Most newer licenses have a magnetic
stripe on the back, it would be as simple as swiping the card! It would take no longer than using a credit card at a store check out line!!
The data base would have to be tied into the S.S. data base so that “DEAD people” are removed. At first it may be a big undertaking BUT once the data base is purged of the voting “DEAD” DemoCommieScumboRATZ voters, it would be simple to maintain via the S.S. data base!
Voter ID law(s), TERM Limits and DRAIN the D.C. cesspool swamp! Ad infinitum! So simple even a cave person/ politician could do it!! Although they may need to get a kindergarten child to help them out!! LOL!
Hello Old Codger. You may be surprized to learn that I sort of agree with you here.
However, I would go about it slightly differently. I would get the Social Security Administration to issue these new IDs, and all voting would be managed by them. We all have unique SSNs and it would be one vote per number, regardless of where you happen to be.
And before you have a minor apoplectic fit, yes, I realize that resident aliens and possibly even some illegals have SS cards. So what? They live here. They pay taxes here. I think they should have a say.
Please keep the crooked government out of it totally. Set up a legal program run buy selected honest people to keep the rolls clean…Do not put it under some big thing like the social security dept…please…
Who decides who’s honest? For better or for worse, corruptible humans.
That is how cross border voting and bussing is done , there is no national data base of registered voters as well as birth certificates . The only national data base is when you die, your name appears.
How, I wonder, are you going to select those honest people?
Dddddiid you vote before becoming a US citizen ???
No.
Then why should other non citizens or Illegals have the right to vote???
Face palm!!! as they say. Non-citizens and illegals do NOT have the right to vote.
Sigh. They don’t.
ever wonder why so many protested the big WIN…by Trump?
simple- despite the Dem insistent “they won”…because w/ all the voting violations (evn illegal voting, “dead-names voted”…they STILL lost?
The 3 most active ‘insurgents’ in America today are FULLY responsible for the current un-rest..Mainly because “America was wise of him, or,,wanted NOTHING of the #2, or His money just cant buy success, candidates,or hide from us…history shows him up.!!
Perhpas I am sleep-deprived, perhaps I have had one Pinot Grigio “di piu”, but I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Obama on national TV told the illegals they could vote I heard him , come on people wake up that is why he was against voter Id so they could have massive voter fraud . Trump is right that is why the left was so surprised they though they had it sewed up with the voter fraud. Go Trump
Yup, he was at a rally for KILLary and mentioned that illegals could vote because there would be no way to determine if they were illegal or not.
And that total fraud non president Obama is still walking our streets!!!
That’s what you thought you heard. Or perhaps what people told you you had heard. Any chance you could provide a link to the actual video/audio so that we can judge for ourselves?
How many times do you need to be told the answers ???
Once – if the answer is even remotely plausible.
By the way, someone did provide a link and I have commented a couple of times that the President quite clearly did not encourage illegals to vote.
http://www.snopes.com/obama-encouraged-illegal-aliens-to-vote/ has the unedited transcript of the interview.
You can see the full video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLLt-a6dI_0
It is well worth watching.
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/11/07/video-obama-encouraging-illegal-immigrants-vote/
Thank you. I had actually found the full interview through Snopes and tried to post a link which has not yet turned up.
Have you watched it? Do you still think that he was encouraging illegals to vote?
Absoluty he was, that half breed hates the USA and wants more than anything to destroy it
And I hate people who refer to half-breeds.
I could he half nigger ,how’s that
unless you can’t believe your ears that’s what the half breed said
That is what the democRATS want. If an illegal is caught voting they should immediately be deported. Straight out of our country. Voting is for the citizens of this country only and if they vote they do not give a dam about our citizens and out they should go and never even be able to visit this country ever! Jerry Brown issued drivers licenses to illegals in California he should be brought up on federal law violations if they can prove an illegal voted and believe me I bet at least 2 million illegals voted in California.
Democrats are too dumb to think…Impossible for them…Not at all thier cup of tea.
It’s about time the actual citizens take their rightful place in America. We have less rights than illegals.
This is why the democrats don’t proof of citizenship, they know voter fraud exists.
Not true.
Obama; “The President who almost destroyed America!”
Obama, (The incognito Muslim President) openly encouraged Islamic Muslims to come to America. He knew that these people would never understand our Constitutional Laws, or fully assimilate into our free society but just like
France they will establish pockets of Islam Mosques. Continuing the (teaching & instruction) totally opposite our culture & society. Refugees is not the correct term, or definition. It’s more like the civilization jihad as Islam grows and Obama should have been given restraints from inviting these foreigners into our country when so many of us need help as it is. The costs of providing (food, clothing & housing) is hurting American citizens who pay for it! I
think President Trump has more common sense and is showing it now.
Very True comment thank you.
Don’t forget to add the voters that were not illegals that voted twice or more perhaps in another district or state.
LIBERAL: willful disassociation from wrongdoing without regard to social or moral consequences
how do you think oboma got elected and re-elected , 2008 accorn illegally doing write in votes for people , they got cought and so they changed their name and did it again in 2012,but even 5 million illegal votes couldn’t save hillary
That’s an outrage and why General Kelly needs to kick them the hell out of the country and why voter ID needs to be the law of the land !
SUPPOSE IT IS 30 MILLION.
When this is all over the Democrats will be the party that was. And in the future it will be what is a Democrat
“The end justifies the means” has always been the motto of the socialist/communist/globalist left. That is how you can recognize them, the other motto is “the needs of the many, or the masses outweigh the needs of the one, the individual;” that first motto is completely immoral, and criminal, it is the reason why they don’t see any fault in voter fraud, propaganda, fake news, false flag events, and eventually discrimination of opposing views, even ultimately genocide. The second motto is logically faulty to begin with – anyone who disregards the needs, or freedom of the individuals of whom the masses are made up will never take care of the needs of the masses of individuals, or respect them. The second motto is always the clearest example why their claim that Jesus “was a socialist” is wrong, Jesus is concerned with each individual, requiring an individual decision and relationship. Statist/globalists spout mottoes to deceive and keep their followers from thinking and analyzing their statements, that is exactly why they kept repeating the claims that “there is no voter fraud,” and voter i.d. “is racist.” Time to educate and inform our fellow citizens and get them to think instead of absorbing MSM slogans. Our country was not designed for an apathetic constituency.
Yes, everyone knows that there were about 5 million illegal voters that voted DEMOCRATIC in 2016 but they want you to think it’s not so because TRUMP & AMERICAN REAL VOTERS WANT A JUST & SECURE VOTING SYSTEM SIMILAR TO OTHER COUNTRIES . a SECURE SYSTEM WOULD BE, A PICTURE I.D CARD COMPLETE WITH HOME IDDRESS, PICTURE I.D., YEARS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, ETC. It is only the DEMOCRATIC PARTY that doesn’t want that because the REPUBLICAN VOTERS SURPASS THE NUMBER OF DEMOCRATIC VOTERS BECAUSE OF CAMPAIGN RHETORIC & AGENDAS. NO, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WOULD RATHER HAVE OPEN BORDERS ALLOWING EVERY TOM, DICK & MOHAMMAD INTO AMERICA WITHOUT PROPER I.D. OR PROPER VETTING KNOWING THAT THESE ILLEGAL ALIENS WILL VOTE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BECAUSE THAT IS HOW THEY GAINED ACCESS TO AMERICA. NOW WE HAVE 36 MUSLIM TERRORIST TRAINING CAMPS WITHIN U.S BORDERS PLANNING UNDER OBAMA, CLINTON & GEORGE SOROS TO ATTACK & DESTROY AMERICAN CITIES THE SAME AS IN EUROPE WHERE SWEDEN IS NOW THE RAPE CAPITOL OF THE WORLD. SWEDENS POLITICIANS DO NOT WISH THAT STATISTIC TO BE KNOWN BECAUSE SWEDEN DEPENDS ON TOURIST $$$.
obuma told illegals it was ok to vote heard him say it myself
SWEDEN RESIDENTS ARE LIVING IN HORROR & THEIR POLICE DO NOTHING OUT OF FEAR OF GOING INTO NO GO ZONES. SWEDEN IS A COUNTRY OF AROUND 15 MILLION LEGAL RESIDENTS. OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS THEY HAVE OPENED THEIR BORDERS & HAVE ALLOWED 1.5 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS IN. LESS THAN 500 ALIENS HAVE FOUND JOBS & THE REFUGEES BRAG ABOUT SWEDEN GIVES THEM EVERYTHING, MONEY, FOOD, CLOTHING & NICE HOMES. THEY NEED NOTHING BUT THE CITIZENS ARE HORRIFIED & DISGUSTED AT THE POLITICIANS WHO ARE PAID BY GEORGE SOROS SO THEY SEE & DO NOTHING, THE SAME AS IN AMERICA. WAKE UP AMERICA, THEY ARE PLANNING & COMING TO GET YOU. WE NEED THE STATE MILITIAS TO BE GATHERING & TRAINING FOR DEFENSE OF OUR COUNTRY & OUR CONSTITUTION. OBAMA, CLINTON & GEORGE SOROS R WANTING TO DESTROY AMERICA BECAUSE PIZZAGATE IS GOING TO PUT HUNDREDS OF POLITICIANS, DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS IN PRISON UNLESS THEY CAN DESTROY TRUMP & TAKE OVER U & AMERICA. WAKE UP, WAKE UP, WAKE UP. WE NEED TO PEACEABLY ASSEMBLE & LET THEM FIRE THE FIRST SHOT..
VERY TRUE! LOCK&LOAD PEOPLE!
Ready and waiting for it all to hit the fan!!
Anyone who has brains, and is honest, which excludes the liberals, knows that there is rampant voter fraud, especially in states like Calif., where one woman was found to have voted 5 times! When the lying liberal media says that there is no evidence of voter fraud, they just prove all the more what fuxking liars they are!
AWW SHUCKS..LIKE WE DIDN’T KNOW THAT CALIFORNIA, WASHINGTON STATE AND NEW YORK HAD ISSUED MILLIONS OF DRIVER LICENSIS TO ILLEGALS AND OBAMA THE TRAITOR HANDING OUT SOCIAL SECURITY CARDS TO REFUGESS WHO THEN REGISTURED TO VOTE..ILLEGALLY….DUH…MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL VOTES…..MILLIONS…
Bull Shit FAKE NEWS STORY.
I live in NH and no bussing of voters EVER happened.
MORONS
It happened in Arizona……McCain is not a valid Senator.
Illinois too!!
No, maybe we won’t become a third world nation, but if we continued on with “The Big Plan” laid out by the Dems, no doubt that’s where we’d be heading. I’m so thankful that “the proud deplorables” stood together and elected a Republican. But let’s keep our President and his cabinet in our prayers – they have tough job ahead of them just sorting out the mess left behind the last presidency. Support them! Pray for them! The illegals are just one thing that has them baffled….because what true American is in support of keeping (& paying for) immigrants who have just wandered into the country demanding that they can vote and be kept by our tax money? I will never understand the notion of being OK to commit this crime! If it’s not illegal…then change the law & don’t call it that.
Does anyone remember who the big proponent of motor-voter law was? None other than Bill “Slick Willie” Clinton. Great President, right? (sarcasm intended)
These people should be rounded up and sent back to where they came from along with the rest of the dangerous illegal criminals, the media fails to tell the truth about the problem of illegal voters.
Ok American voters, why is this happening? It’s our fault. We have let the professional politician feed us propaganda, and we swallowed it. Now, our American government is going to turn on us.
Gawd! more Fake News! Most Mexican males, illegal or not, wouldn’t vote for a woman because they are very traditional in the belief that a woman belongs in the kitchen and performing cleaning duties. I doubt men of middle-east ancestry would’ve voted for Hillary either.
First off the true figure of green card and ilegals in the US is closer to 30 million and 13% registered is a reasonble if not low figure thats 3.9 million votes
1 is to many and we know one now in prison in Texas for voting twice !!!!
In 94 or 95 in California hundreds of people were arrested in a ring of insurance fraud. They robbed the cripple children’s fund. Dr.’s, lawyers, nurses and border jumpers also along with Americans who had 15 or more California drivers license with 15 different names but the same person. The license’s were real from the DMV. They had several people working in state offices who would lie and cheat. Many of those involved were not American’s. They gave them the license’s to defraud the state. All they had to do is know and pay to get a REAL license. Even if from another country. I know they also gave them birth certificates but don’t know the angle on the birth certificates. There are millions of border jumpers who have these “REAL” drivers licenses. This is a fact as I know the law officials who handled the cases. Easy to check. I saw many with 10 or 15 Cal. drivers licenses. Helped work that case. There are millions and millions of them who do not belong there. Would bet NY is the same. Chicago also.
Our democracy my well be in trouble, but it is NOT because millions of illegals are registered to vote. It is not even because millions of LEGAL aliens are registered to vote. It is not because dead people are registered to vote (they are not going to turn up, are they?).
I came to the US in 1984,, the whole family tagging along on my husband’s H1 visa. His employer applied for green cards for all of us. We nearly lost our children to Canada – who knew that you had to apply for permission to take them to the Toronto Zoo while waiting for green card approval?
That may seem irrelevant, but my point is that it is not easy to get into the United States, and it is virtually impossible to get on to the voters’ roll without proof of citizenship (I’ve been through that, too).
Remember what state the most votes were in both the primary’s & the election = CA the state that is said to have the most illegal immigrants & that state wants to be on there own, I say do it but have the wall all along CA to keep them there & NOT here. trash like them We the People NEVER need!
Did you see the report that in just eight precincts in Virginia over 1,000 illegals voted. And then there is the illegal who is being prosecuted for voting five time. California HAS NOT UPDATED THEIR VOTERS REGISTRATION BOOKS for probably 100 years……that is why and how California stays demoncratic…..killary did not win the popular vote–not even in California…..you have to realize that the population of this State is more than all of Canada—so please let’s ship all of the illegals (and that includes the muslims) to our Northern Sister and we should also include the Hispanic felons. Don’t criticize America for trying to protect the legals that live here.
Where did those reports come from?
From the internet two days ago. Do you just type? Or are you AK sister?
I’m sure it came from “the internet”. I was hoping for just a tad more detail so that I could, you know, verify the information.
Unlike you, I do not take everything I read on the internet as gospel.
From the internet?!?!?!?!?! No! WOW!.. The man is wired! He has access to the World Wide Wonderland!
Of course you got it from the %()*$%(&(** internet. Where else? I just sorta, kinda, thought that you would be a little more specific.
Typical response from one of your kind—you accept all of the BS and fake news only when it suits you. You want proof and source….here it is:
“The bombshell disclosure was made in a report released by the Virginia Voters Alliance based on The Public Interest Foundation,”
“The 1,046 Virginia voters may be just the tip of the iceberg. They have not looked into the other 125 localities.” This count was based on only 8 Virginia localities.
“In Virginia NO PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP IS REQUIRED
to vote.”
All of the above is quoted from the report and it is not the complete report but you wanted source and proof of the article. Of course you will find some way to deny this.
You may be right that no physical proof of citizenship is required to vote in Virginia. (https://vote.elections.virginia.gov/Registration/Eligibility) But I find it hard to accept that the state does not in some way check the veracity of the applications. It is, after all, a felony to vote if you are not eligible.
Would that be the Public Interest Foundation of South Carolina, Yarmouth, UK or India?
I’m just being snarky. Obviously you meant PILF, the Public Interest Legal Foundation.
Reading the report (yes.I found it: https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Report_Alien-Invasion-in-Virginia.pdf) I would say that it is a perfect example of fake news. They do seem to have been given 1046 names of people who registered to vote when they were not American citizens. The implication, of course, is that all 1046 then voted on November 8th.
What the Virginia Voters Alliance does not mention is that all those names were removed from the rolls.
Talk about fake news.
You are in denial
About what?
I feel quite sure that millions of illegal votes were cast for John McCain as we wanted him out. We voted him out in the counties, in the city not so much. I feel sure they voted by illegal voting registration or Kelly Ward would now be our Senator. We are hoping she will beat Flake at the coming election..Hoping and praying.
THIS IS THE GAME THAT OUR FRIENDS TAKE OUR VOTE TO BURY US!
??????
“Donald Trump changed all that. He is forcing the mainstream media to talk about things they absolutely do not want to talk about, especially as it pertains to illegal immigration.” And LONG overdue!
Now you know; the liberals have always been protecting the illegal immigrants for the vote.
Killary cheated but not enough to steal the election. That is why she was so mad. Don’t vote for Trump again unless he sends her to prison. Pick somebody who will.
We need to bite the bullet and deport them all NOW!
Toss that illegal basturd Obama in prison.
Another blogger making outrageous assertions without proof. Such is todays social media full of pretended experts who know the truth no one else has access to.
Voting is a sacred right to no one else but Americans. I mean when there is doubt or even the smell of fraud we take to counting hanging chads.
I don’t believe a word of it.
Goodbye rome44.
I think it is funny that media accuses Trump of ‘stretching the truth’ but the media has been doing it for many years. As for Illegal Immigrants, combine this with multiple votes; you now have the 3-million.
Which “media” have been stretching the truth? If you are going to make an accusation, at least you could back it up with details. I challenge you to name three media outlets and give examples of erroneous reporting.
Brian Williams is back on nbc after lying,Hillary told almost the same lie about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia
So stop watching NBC. What about the others?
Is Media Statistics a LIE?
It depends
Not surprising….. when there is no accepted way to determine a person’s legal identity at the polls, then there is gonna be fraud. .
But there IS an accepted way to determine a person’s legal identity at the polls. It’s called voter registration. I have to think that you have never voted.
what????? voter registration????? what pray tell are you talking about. Me in my ever-so humble self had no idea there was such a thing. why I just thought you show’ed up , made your mark with a burnt stick, and that was it. If it wasn’t for you my lady why I would have never have known. I mean, you are so sophisticated and worldly, Listen everyone…..Ms Whitehouse has all the answers. what ever would we do without you.
Oh, very funny.
Can you tell us how one bypasses this process you so enjoyed ridiculing?
Perhaps you could drop your biting sarcasm for long enough to explain how this wide-spread fraud happens.
Maybe he’ll vote when he is dead like all the other dead people who voted for Hillary
Obviously none of you have tried to register to vote as an alien. It is not as simple as going to your local elections board and saying politely, “Excuse me I would like to register to vote”.
How do you think it is possible for millions of illegals to register? How?
Ask Hillary
I know what she would say. I am asking you.
How about not having to show an ID. That’s what liberals want in every state. What’s so hard to understand about that?
In order to register you have to show quite a lot of ID. The issue is whether you then have to show ID when you go to vote.
Nineteen states, plus all overseas territories require NO identification document of any kind. Others ask for various levels of ID.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/voter-id.aspx#Laws%20in%20Effect
It would be interesting to know where all this alleged voter fraud is taking place.
Think of voting without ID as using a credit card. The board of elections already has you details and they accept your signature that you are who you say you are.
Ever read the autobiography, NEVER AGAIN, by Attorney-General John Ashcroft?
He, not Eric Holder nor Janet Reno, gave the order to RESCUE illegals!
Remember when Attorney-General Janet Reno ENFORCED our immigration laws?
Remember the Elian Gonzales case?
Where was Trump?
The party, of butterfly ballots, hanging chad and stormed recount centers CLAIMS to be against illegal ballots?
PERFECTLY CLEAR?
SURPRISE! (Idiots).
The corporate media isn’t just “not being entirely honest” they are outright liars. Their primary concern is creating public opinion which supports a democrat controlled communist state. The corporate media never “reports” the truth about anything. Unfortunately the lying socialist/communist corporate media controls all of the major TV and Radio stations and are able to brain wash their uniformed viewers 24/7. Our country very much needs a new independent TV station called “The Truth” which can also be turned on with just a click of a button.
Our polling and voting process is totally corrupt and always has been. The democrats have always committed fraud and cheating in elections and the RINO party has never objected because the RINO party is actually liberal democrats. We have a one party system in Washington D.C. and it is the Liberal Party.
Here’s another thought – what about those of us who have moved several times during the past 8 years and are still registered in states where we no longer live…
the democrats did it when they gave them drivers licenses
The Democrats are using every trick in the book to discredit President Trump, and one by one their tricks are being uncovered…WE all know that of the picture of him discrediting women, having illegal Immigrants voting, Russia helping him..HOW? exposing Hilliary…Russia never forced or coaxed anyone to vote for Trump,but Putin did say that he preferred if Trump won, and why not? The world needs some peace. How many times have America INDICATED A PREFERENCE FOR A CANDIDATE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY’S ELECTION, and even helped them with money and military equipment, now the CIA etc want to place sanctions on Russia as they try desperately to connect Russia with Cyber attacks, although ALL the experts say that a single person could do it farless any or every country. They have too much money to waste and should be replaced. OBAMA was a fool, I am sorry to say…even he intervened in the BREXIT VOTE, and Britain was more mature in their approach to his comments. TRUMP’S only crime was that he wanted a better relationship with Russia and I hope he shrugs off his opponents and succeed.
Brian. You make a very good point about the US interfering with elections in other countries. Does that make it OK for Russia to interfere in our elections?
Elizabeth, It is wrong for any country to interfere in the internal affairs another..Russia is dead wrong to interfere , if they did.. However, there is no real proof that they did, other than Putin’s preference to Trump over Hillary and attempts by those who appose Trump’s victory, to connect them.
No real proof?
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national
Correct, NO Proof. Still in the manufacturing stage.
OBama-Told them to Vote-Nothing would be Done-I saw and heard him -Lots of people did-OBama-Doesn’t care about Breaking the LAW-He has made that very Clear-And has Broken the Law-Nothing happen to him.All he Had to do is SCREAM-RACEIST !!!!
They voted and we know they voted. We’re not stupid like the left would have you think. Just plain common sense . Doesn’t take rocket science. Why do liberals hardly ever accuse republicans of voter fraud? Because they know who the fraudulent voters are without a doubt. Stop voter fraud, stop liberals. As Jed Clampett would say, “Just plain ole common sense”.
The Republicans stole the 2016 election not with voter fraud,
but by closing hundreds of polling places where democrats outnumbered republicans and they made it too hard for them to get to overcrowded polling places.
That’s a fact.
Waytago inventor, I believe that’s the dumbest excuse I’ve heard yet any I’ve heard some good ones.?
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The democrats are imploding and there is no leadership left. Soon there will be ONE party; The People of America’s Party. It is now being formed by we the people and President Donald J. Trump. Everybody is excited and the next election should totally doom the democrats. Time to wake up liberals…you are done. You got at least 3 years and 11 months to go. (hopefully 8 years of Trump and then 8 years of his successor Michael Pence…Rock On America! God Bless every person in America!
God Bless every person in America! Does that include non-Republicans?
Time for an election where EVERYBODY has to show an I.D. Card!!
It appears to me that we absolutely MUST require a legal I.D. in order to vote! that seems to be the only sure way to verify legality in our elections.
Isn’t the law of aperson convicted of a felony still not able to vote; or did the dumbocRATs get that changed too?
next election we will catch their ass when they try to vote ,this time we had a worthless president who told the illegals to vote ,That worthless half breed should be hung
You speak with forked tongue!
You see you do not have to speak the truth on this site, just make accusations.
No one should have to prove that the current vote counts were not correct. People should come up with facts that can not be disputed.
In the end it really does not make any difference because President Trump is in office.
What people should be concerned with is why does a state with a small population need less votes to get one electoral vote than a state with a large population.
muslimobama and demon-crats are in treason.if we get rid of illegals muslimobama will go he was put in under treason by demon-crats.the only person that viewed his birth certificate just happened to die in plane crash.no one else
Incidents like this are exactly why ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS must be deported. Once a liar, cheat, and theft, always a liar, cheat, and theft.
ALL LEGAL ALIENS NEED DEPORTED! Including the DACA, who incidentally the majority are grown adults, who had plenty of time to fix their problem and chose not to. Our laws are not confusing for anyone but a Communist Democrat or their supported. ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE CRIMINALS.
If illegals aliens are so great, let them go back to their own countries and make them great, so they can get the h*ll out of ours. Make it all they want to steal from Americans. I am so sick of these users and those anti-Americans who are fighting to abuse Americans. All bills down to the penny that these illegal aliens cost America should be put totally on the Communist Democrats who are fighting to keep them here. You would see how quickly they would back off.
Send these DACA “kids” that we PAID to educate back to their own countries, so they can be a positive force on their countries. Let them contribute to rebuilding their country and STOP THEIR CITIZENS FOR STEALING INTO AMERICA!
Immigration costs hit us on countless levels: whites don’t care what color the illegals are, they could be purple with two heads, and it would not be relevant. The objection is that as a debtor nation close to bankruptcy, illegals are a heavy burden we cannot afford and are not responsible for, as those people belong to foreign countries.
Our struggling middle class is supporting everyone, and the illegal aliens never stop coming. We pay for the birth of their children and educate them clear through college, while our children are driven into massive debts for life for their educations. They are living off our welfare, our medical system, they drive up our rates on everything they don’t pay their fair share on, they are wear and tear on all our country’s infrastructure the list goes on and on.
MON, NOV 7th
A new authoritative study released by the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) reveals that the federal government would have to immediately raise taxes by $1.29 trillion in order to cover the fiscal losses created by those illegal aliens and their children who receive amnesty. This would also need an immediate lump sum of over $15,000 on average per household in order to cover the future costs. They also drive down wages for American citizens. Illegal aliens are the gift that never stops giving, here my sarcasm.
Illegal immigrants are a major drain on our healthcare system. Some studies conclude that hospitals in the Southwest spend as much as 15% of their total budget providing care for people who shouldn’t even be in the United States. At a time when we’re already struggling to get health costs under control, this is nothing less than a national outrage.
Furthermore they are bringing highly infectious disease epidemics: Polio, Leprosy, TB, Measles, Scarlet Fever, drug resistant Gonorrhea, to name but a few; because they were not inoculated from birth. Those coming from Africa, where 70% are infected, bring HIV and AIDs. A dreadfully deadly disease with massive risks and expense into America. Moreover, those coming across the Mexican border, hundreds of thousand YEARLY are indeed rapists, murders, drug deals, and criminals, even ISIS. I checked the government stats on that myself. They are also ISIS, as the drug smugglers have told us they have been bring them in. Open borders are deadly to Americans and America.
Also one cannot discount the fact that they are liars and cheats when they break our laws to come here by cutting in front of all those legally coming to our country. Immigrating requires time, money, and good will. Those honorable people are what we look for, not those who show no respect for us, our laws or processes.
By the way, DACA kids are NOT KIDS! They are full grown adults who had many, many years to fix their illegal immigration status, and they CHOSE not to. They were liars then, and they are liars now. They are not the sort of people we want in America. Deport them back to their own countries. Let them be assets to their own country!
Obummer is a traitor…there will be a revolution in next 8 yrs…buy more ammo…left is doomed..
There is little doubt that President Trump would have won the popular vote had this election been fair and legal.
Apart from Russian intervention and voter suppression, what was not fair and legal?
Quit crying in your beer and accept FACTS. We have a Constitutionally elected president so accept it. It is people like liberal Democrat Socialists that the country is in the shape it is in. It can’t be fixed in a few days. Obama, which democrat socialists love, was and is a Islamic Terrorist sent here to destroy America and with the help of democrats he came close.
I am sick of crybaby democrats. If I were president I would withdraw immediately ALL federal handouts to illegals, no food stamps, no rental support, no free cell phones and special minutes, NOTHING! I would also enforce the laws that ILLEGALS cannot have american jobs because they are law breakers. So let them starve, freeze, or leave.
I, for one, accept that we have a constitutionally elected president. But that is the only fact that you present.
For the rest, you show yourself to be ill-informed, mean-spirited and xenophobic, just like our constitutionally elected president.
Sorry you cannot accept facts as they are. I could say something nasty about your mental capabilities but it would do no good to me or for you.
This is good to know….MAKES THINGS EASIER….THEY’VE ALREADY GIVEN THEIR NAMES…….
No need to go rounding them up either….probably never find them (lotsa last names)……
all that has to be done is to TAG THEIR NAMES ON THE VOTER ROSTER…….AND WAIT FOR THEM TO SHOW UP TO VOTE AGAIN AND THEN ARREST THEM ‘ON THE SPOT’……
VERY EASY……SPREAD THE WORD…….
GO PRESIDENT TRUMP…….AMERICA FIRST..
…………MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN………….
…….GOD BLESS OUR BELOVED AMERICA…….
Since it is a federal crime to vote illegal, then, the federal government should investigate and book all offenders. No “path to citizenship” should ever be allowed to the offenders.
In California the elected Liberal Democrats, that have made a mess of the State financially, have depended on illegal votes for Years. An attack on Conservative Orange County many Years ago ousted Representative Bob Dornan and ushered in Clinton fellow traveller Sanchez. An investigation of the votes in Santa Ana that Year would have revealed an anomaly in registration. Election Officials knew what was going on and should be held accountable for the federal charges involved in perpetrating the fraud voting.
That’s why we need to screen every person entering the polling places. Have a Democrat and a Republican representative there checking credentials…then they get a green bracelet (like amusement parks)if it’s a GO- go to advance to the polling tables where people then check to see if a card is on file, etc. You won’t advance to “GO” if you don’t have proper credentials. If not, then send ’em back to “START” where a border patrol agent is sitting and waiting to escort them to “Go to Jail.” Maybe I’m naive but maybe this could work???
When was the last time you voted? That is exactly what happens.
Democrats, as a whole, are a bunch of liars and dishonest people who have bonded together to support each other in their dishonesty in order to justify their actions. “Birds of a feather flock together” is an apt saying that explains it.
Birds of a feather do indeed flock together. For the rest you could be describing any political group.
That’s why I am independent.
DEMOCRATS DO NOT CARE FOR OUR COUNTRY. THEY DON’T EVEN CARE FOR THE FUTURE OF THEIR OWN GRAND CHILDREN. THEY ARE PROGRESSIVE (A MODERN WORD FOR COMMUNISM).
PERSONALLY THEY NEED TO BE PUT ON BOATS AND SEND TO CUBA. TAKE THEIR AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP, WELFARE , PENSION, ETC… THERE THEY CAN ENJOY THE GOOD LIFE OF SOCIALISM. DRIVE CARS MADE IN THE 50’S. NO AIR CONDITIONING, LITTLE FOOD AND HAVING TO OBEY THE GOVERNMENT.
Criminal Bas-turds!!God bless America and the 82nd Airborne!!!
Hi Elizabeth. I have voted for years,. But I have never seen a serious attempt to challenge anyone. Each time we go, they do not look at our drivers license…But do look up our voting registration card. These are our friends and neighbors who know us, maybe that is why…Yet, it should be done and by someone official …A government official to stress the seriousness of voting. Just my take on it.
The only way to really be able to figure out who is right on this subject is to get every last one of the illegals out of the country before the next big election, especially in those states that have large numbers of illegals. The other thing we need to do is catch and prosecute those who are voting more than once; clean up the registered voter roll in each and every state. This is where “STATES RIGHTS” should not allow states to make their own rules, especially in Federal elections. This is why the REGRESSIVES have been against cleaning up the Voter Registry Rolls in ANY state.
There is a big difference between cleaning up the voters’ rolls and purging voters on a whim.
well. Ellizabeth, its like this::: No wondr why the Dems are mad as hell::because THEY had many many election-violations ===and they STILL lost….. getting beat is BAD, even when INELIGIBLE voters by million + ….she STILL lost;.. Get it/
Think, the first time is alwys the ruffest…
Geez! MORE FAKE NEWS! GIVE ME A BREAK!
There may be an answer for immigrants that their home country refuses to accept back as NAS has announced the discovery of plants that may be suitable for human life.
Maybe we can dump the illegals we can not get their own governments to accept back and those who commit crimes in this country sent to one of the new planets!
No real evidence, just conjecture. Ignore the reality and just stay with your “alternative facts.”
– A five-year voter fraud investigation conducted by the George W. Bush administration did yield 86 criminal convictions as of 2006, many of those appear to have been linked to people misunderstanding eligibility rules or filling out paperwork incorrectly.
– In 2014, a two-year investigation by Iowa’s Republican secretary of state yielded 27 criminal charges. These were related to mistakes and not understanding voting rules.
– 2016. The National Association of Secretaries of State, which represents most of the nation’s top election officials (most of whom happen to be Republican), stated, “We are not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by President Trump.”
– In Kansas, the GOP secretary of state examined 84 million votes cast in 22 states to look for cases of duplicate registration. The project yielded 14 prosecutions, representing 0.000017 percent of the votes cast.
Of course none of this will matter to large numbers of the people on this site. They, like their Dear Leader, have a “belief” and will stay with it despite the lack of any credible evidence.
Has the “Media”Been completely Bought and Paid for-By “Liberals”-If they knew Thousands of illegals-Were Voteing-For Hillary Clinton-They Wouldn’t say a word–It doesn’t Surprise me-She got the Popular-Vote.Here we go again-More of Hillarys Crooked-Tricks-Anyone that has done any Reading are Checking-Knows-She and Bill Clinton-Will break the “LAW”They will do anything for “Money”$$I believe it’s called-“GREED”
It is hard to believe Hillary is as bad as all seems to show she is. She has been in and around government a big part of her life. She says a lot of the right things and suggest she is or will be good for the Ameriacn people and the nation; she has certainly convinced some of the people. IF she was as good as she tried to make us believe then we could accept her failure to get elected into the White House twice is unfortunate.
BUT; it is hard to accept “her” comments when we know of so much wrong, bad, and criminal she has been involved in. Her lies she has been caught in, her thefts from the White House when she and Bill moved out, her voting on bills without knowing what they said, her failures to carry out her responsibilities as Secretary of State, her illegal server and dispatching highly classified information over the server so anyone throughout the world with the simplest ability to hack her emails cold see. Her involvement in creating hate and discontent against Bernie Sanders as he ran in opposition to her for the White House, working with democratic party leaders to hack into the Sanders campaign, working with CNN employees to obtain campaign debate questions before the debates, her and her campaign teams contracting to hoodlums to create disturbances and violence at Trump campaigns, and so much more. Lies and more lies; failed duties, ignoring responsibilities as Secretary of State while traveling around the world and bragging about how many countries she had visited (averaged a new one every third week) but then could never show any progress in accomplishing her duty basic obligations as Secretary of state.
Listen to her and she was our best choice for anything; study her, her past, her positions, her failures, her integrity and her honesty and it all falls to the pendulums side of failure! She is just where she belongs – out of the government!
Obama had a $2.2 Billion Dollar Marketing budget used to sell his agenda and influence people through the media; the bulk of that money went to the media. At one time I had a copy of an article published over the internet and heard several times on TV as to the close ties Obama had with the televised networks; personal friendships, family relations between various employees in his administration and the media.
The media had become Obama’s Biggest tool in selling his agenda. It naturally has became the point of most debate and “marketing” to the public. Just as in all earlier efforts to overtake resistance the media became the Obama Administrations favored tool in selling the Obama agenda. It was obvious he was not impressing congress so he turned to the media where he could buy his influence with that huge budget; buy his way through by convincing the people rather than letting our government work as it was intended to do.
It was no long before we were seeing more elected officials in front of TV cameras belittling others than in dong their jobs in their offices or debating on the floors of Congress. Debate had taken a back seat to televised name calling and degrading others rather than in discussing the pros and cons of the issues.
We have all heard it many, many times; win the media and you can win most of your battles.
In Vietnam, winning the media was one of the major keys in overthrowing local governments. Obama capitalized on the wars proven effects of “internal development” where population support is won using community plants and plants in local government to turn the population against government leadership; implant operatives in the government and the media to convince people the government is bad then manipulate the overthrow of the government! A review of the Obama years shows strong similarities to the Internal Development tactics in Vietnam and the Huge marketing budget would have been the key in using the media to selling the Obama agenda.
– – – – – – – – – – — – [ Interesting how the Democrats are now saying that Trump is on the wrong path by building bad relations with the media and that he will fail in his job if he can not build better media relationships; like they are encouraging him to follow in Obama’s footsteps. ]- – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
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^ I have no doubt, much of the money in Obama’s “marketing budget” was passed on to the media before Obama left office in attempts to continue buying media support for Obama and the democrats. ^
Hillary did not win the popular vote since many of her votes were cast by illegal aliens. She is a genuine loser all around.
By deporting all the illegal ba$tard$ in our country, we’ll fix this left wing created problem.
Also need to get all dead people off the eligible voter roles.
Obama told them to vote. He broke the law. So what. Just one more time, who is counting?
They can’t vote in Mexico, or any of their Home Shies-Hole Nations! I’ll bet! Voting south of the border is a Rich Man’s Privilege! Boot ’em all out! All the Hadjiis are voting Dem. Too!
Keep it simple….burn the illegal voters card…deport the illegal immigrant….if they re-enter illegally – shoot them.
That is how McCain and the new Sheriff got elected in the Phoenix area…All illegal votes. We did not want either of them….Trump should check it and remove those two.
So weird, isn’t it, how all the illegal votes only support those we don’t WANT to get elected? A sad, and satanic world we live in, eh? : (
Wonder how many illegal aliens voted for crooked hillary many times. Remember BHO’s head of the injustice dept, eric Fast & Furious holder, ordered that voter I.D.s wouldn’t be required. Wonder how many times democrats voted for crooked hillary, how many dead people voted for hillary and how many cartoon characters and dead hollywood actors voted for her too.
I was visiting a friend this last summer (2016) while there his daughter called. She worked for the Federal Government in California. I heard her on the speaker phone tell her father that she had to give oaths of allegiance to over 20,000 illegals and not any had cleared background tests. All they had to do was agree to vote a straight Democratic ticket in the Presidential Election.
When she said she objected to this she was told either you do it or you will be “fired and you will lose all of your retirement and health benefits. And they would get someone else to swear them in.”
She said she did give the oath to over 2,000 illegals a day for ten (10) days. She also stated that all government personal in her position had to do this in all areas where they worked. She has since put in for her retirement as she heard that because she objected she was going to be fired for insubordination.
Really, Judicial Watch already has proven it !
((President Trump may not be able to prove his claim that he would have won the popular vote in the absence of 3 million illegal immigrants/fraudulent ballots, ))
What you talking bout reporter ! You find read Judicial Watch ????
I donate every month to Judicial Watch they are getting things done.
IN CLEAR VIOLATION OF THE LAW…… AND CAUSE FOR DEPORTATION!!! CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN HOW THEY HAD NO PROBLEM BRINGING THE CHILDREN HERE IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW AND THEY KNEW IT!!!! BUT THEY CAN’T TAKE THE SAME CHILDREN…. OLDER NOW…. BACK FROM WHENCE THEY CAME????? GRANTED, THE CHILDREN ARE INNOCENT….. BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, TO KEEP THE FAMILY TOGETHER….. THE CHILDREN MUST GO WITH THE PARENTS….. WE CANNOT ALLOW THE PARENTS TO STAY FOR THE KIDS!!! WHEN SOMEONE KNOWS HE IS BREAKING THE LAW AND DOES SO ANYWAY…… HE CANNOT GET PARDONED FOR HIS ILLEGAL ACTIONS!!!! AS USUAL, THE KIDS WILL PAY THE PRICE FOR THE CRIMINALITY OF THE PARENTS. WE, THE PEOPLE, DID NOT CREATE THE PROBLEM….. BUT WE SHOULD NEVER SEPARATE CHILDREN FROM PARENTS…. HENCE THEY MUST BE RETURNED WITH THE PARENTS. ISN’T IT ABOUT TIME AMERICA IS FOR AMERICANS…. NOT ILLEGAL THIEVES KNOWING THE ACTIONS THEY TAKE ARE CRIMINAL…… WE USE THE WELFARE MONEY THEY ARE STEALING, TO SUPPORT OUR CITIZENS FACING A HARD TIME. WE USE THE WELFARE MONEY THEY ARE STEALING, TO AID AND ENCOURAGE OUR VETERANS TO RECEIVE THE MEDICAL CARE THEY RECEIVE!!! THE muslim PIG SON OF A WHORE AND GUTTER TRASH PUSHED OUR NATION AND IT’S CITIZENS ASIDE IN HIS EVERY ATTEMPT TO DESTROY OUR NATION AND WE THE PEOPLE!!!! ODUMB-ASS….. THANKS TO MR. TRUMP….. WE TAKE OUR NATION BACK!!! WE WANT YOUR CRIMINAL ASS IN A JAIL CELL NEXT DOOR TO THE CRIMINAL, LIAR, KILLER OF AMERICAN CITOIZENS, KILLORY!!!!!! TO GIVE THE REST OF THE WORLD PEACE FROM THE muslim PIGS….. THE MOOOOOOO-COW CAN BE TAKEN ALSO!!!
Stop all Federal Aid to Mexico, Central and South America PERIOD.
I am tired of the BS. Get it proved that illegals voted & how many & where or forget it. Trump is in & now he needs to get er done!!!! I would be willing to bet that the records of the dead & illegal & multi people that voted has been destroyed by now.
Get on with the improvements to this Country & start making progress towards the healing for the US. Demarats quit trying to destroy & put on your big boy or big girl panties & quit pouting & get this Country back to what is was principles it was founded on. Take care of what is at home FIRST & if any left over then help only our allies not our enemies!! My Saturday rant and raving!!
13%of 11.5m is about 1.5 m but since about half of those are under 18 years old that means maybe .75 m and who with a voter turnout of 55% what would mean about .39 m might have voted. And how many voted for Trump?? Who knows. Besides 10.8 m more people voted for someone other than Trump. So much for your so called “science”!!
So one day a border agent sees 4 people rowing a boat across the Rio Grande, he yells and asks what they think they’re doing, “invading America” they say,,, all 4 of you? He asks,,, to which they reply, “no, we’re the last, the other 20 million are already here”
If they had come to the border en masse we would have recognized them as an invading army and repelled them, but like the frog in the pot they turned up the heat slowly.
I’m not against legal immigration, I helped my friend Jorge study for his citizenship test almost on a daily basis, the day he gained his citizenship was one of the happiest days of his life, he came to work and tears of pride and joy streamed down as he told me he scored 99% on his test, “I am American now”
We all told Jorge that we were proud of him, and he was damn sure proud of himself too, but I have news, Jorge and the many others who have gone through the process despise illegals, they see them as criminals and lazy ne’er do wells, and though I have lost track of Jorge I’m still proud of him, I’m still proud that I helped him achieve his goal of citizenship, and I know that wherever he may be that in his chest beats the heart of an American patriot.
LET’S MOVE TO MAKE THIS BUNCH OF ILLEGALS THE FIRST COLLECTED AND PLACED ON THE OTHER SIDEO OF OUR BORDER!!! THESE CRIMINALS WALKED OVER OUR BORDER…. KNOWING THEY WERE BREAKING OUR LAWS AND DIDN’T GIVE A DAMN!!!! THEY TOOK HOUSING AND WELFARE AWAY FROM OUR CITIZENS…. IN ESSENCE… THEY STOLE FROM THE TAXPAYERS!!! OUR VETERANS ARE STILL WAITING TO GET MEDICAL HELP….. THEY STOLE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS FROM CITIZENS PUTTING LEGAL AMERICANS AT RISK OF AUDITS AND MASSIVE TAX BILLS. THEY PUT THEIR CHILDREN IN OUR SCHOOLS… AND THEN DEMANDED WE CHANGE OUR SYSTEM TO THEIRS…. DUH?????? AND, WORST OF ALL…. THEY STAND UP AND MAKE DEMANDS TO WE THE PEOPLE!!!! IF THEY LEFT A SHIT HOLE TO COME HERE…. WHY DO THEY WANT TO MAKE THIS THEIR SHIT HOLE????? MR. TRUMP….. HURRY WITH THE WALL….. HIRE MORE AGENTS…. AND ALLOW LEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO ENTER…. THEY HONOR AND FOLLOW OUR LAWS!!!!!
Just more fake news. The outcome of the election is over. Why should it matter who won the majority or the electoral. Trumps in the White House and it’s done.
If we do not fight to help President Trump and his team, then you will have what Soros, Obama, Clintons and those progressive Liberals wanted to import. https://youtu.be/c6fVC_jMubM
Can’t voter registration be somehow tied to E-Verify?
Voter fraud MUST be eliminated prior to the ’18 election. Both parties will benefit from truly honest elections.
What’s wrong with using one’s finger print match as a means to honest voter registration?
Democrats lie, cheat, and steal! They are a bunch of power starved imps, they do everything that they accuse republicans of doing! Half of our country are liberals, and have been turned over to reprobate minds. They are atheists, baby murderers, anarchists, treasonous, trash! They rant about their rights protected by the constitution on one side of their mouth, yet when it comes to constitutional rights for subjects they are against, they cry foul, and dispute the constitution! Obama placed his fraudulent hand on the Bible in front of millions of people and lied, because he swore an oath to uphold, and defend, the constitution! Then when he was done, he went to work to try to bypass, and even called for changing the constitution! The Democratic Party is in shambles because of their ant-American rhetoric! Treasonous acts committed by obama and his administration, are numerous, and should lead to his, and their, arrest and conviction!
We have (and have had) the worst teaching people in this country. All the other countries in the WORLD are better at teaching children than this great country of AMERICA……Look who wins all the competitions in the world………..
NOT america………Japan, china, lots of european countries; they all top the U.S.A……We better change that !!!!!!!!!!
The authors of the Pew Research (cited by Pres. Trump) found that even though the initial survey showed approximately 13% of respondents claimed to be registered they were mistaken and/or otherwise unable to vote. The guys cited by Pres. Trump denied his claim.
Also, even if all 13 percent of undocumented residents voted President Trump still had the largest popular vote deficiency of any person
Illegals must not vote ! Kick them the hell out and make voter ID the law of the land !
Projections based on imaginary interviews makes for garbage reporting.
No facts just hog wash!
Of course this is how Pillosi and Maxi-pad Waters get elected . (and don’t forget the voting dead )
What we are demanding is that the law be enforced, in non-partisan fashion, protecting the citizens of the U.S. and ensuring accountability for purposes of accountability, accuracy, integrity and security. We reject liberal “diversity, inclusiveness and big-heartedness” which obviates and violates the law in order to constitute the American population with people who are opposed to accountability, accuracy, integrity and security. This is a demand which WILL be met.
In California alone there were probably more than five million illegal Hispanics that voted demoncratic—this does not take in the number of muslims that also voted. No one is talking about the muslim factor……
Yes!
Democrats denied voter fraud, because they really know it exists.
You are leaving out a couple of important facts.
1: In 2015 California started allowing illegals to register to vote.
2: President Obama went on the Hispanic television network and encouraged illegals to vote, and he told them there was nothing for them to worry about because or voting system is secret so it is easy for them to vote and they did.