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“Unsafe”: Church Leaders Want George Washington Plaques Removed
Posted On 29 Oct 2017
Leaders at Christ Church in Alexandria, Virginia are removing a plaque that commemorates George Washington because they feel it makes people feel “unwelcome” in the congregation. The plaques, which are on the pew where Washington and his family sat when they attended the church, will be removed after some parishioners complained.
“The plaques in our sanctuary make some in our presence feel unsafe or unwelcome,” said church leaders, referencing the first president’s status as a slaveowner. “Some visitors and guests who worship with us choose not to return because they receive an unintended message from the prominent presence of the plaques. Many in our congregation feel a strong need for the church to stand clearly on the side of ‘all are welcome- no exceptions.'”
Well, all are welcome…except great men like George Washington, apparently.
Washington’s plaque isn’t the only one coming down; a plaque commemorating Robert E. Lee, whose family donated money to the church, is also due to be removed.
“We understand that both Washington and Lee lived in times much different than our own, and that each man, in addition to his public persona, was a complicated human being, and like all of us, a child of God,” church leaders wrote.
Yes, but DO you recognize that? DO you understand that? Because by removing these plaques, you are betraying the fact that you don’t. There is nothing offensive whatsoever about imbuing your church with a sense of American history, and if parishioners are so offended by these plaques that they cannot bear to attend, then they have truly missed – and missed badly – Christ’s message of forgiveness.
It’s often said that we cannot judge a man from history based on the moral values we hold today, but when it comes to a Christian church, the glaring error here is even more egregious, is it not? Because Jesus taught that we should not judge…period! More to the point, we should be much more concerned with our own faults and failures to lead a good life than we are with another’s. Especially if that “other” lived hundreds of years ago!
This would have made a fine teachable moment for church leaders, but instead they chose to bow before the political correctness of the day. That’s a damn shame, because Christianity and religion in general are particularly endangered by the rising tide of illiberal liberals who want to control speech and rewrite history. NOW is the time to develop a backbone and to fight back against these forces. If you give in today, when the subject is Washington and Lee, you won’t have the spine to stand up when the subject is the Bible.
Why don’t they remove all the religious artifacts too as there is
bound to be somebody who might wander in there and be offended by one or
more of them? Maybe all those offended by Washington, Jefferson,
Lincoln, Hamilton or others should burn the bills and melt the coins on
which their likenesses appear??? Go all in!!
Impeccable logic, Justin!
Those who deny their heritage have no heritage at all.
I think you missed the sarcasm Justin was presenting… I am sure he would agree with you.
I disagree, CRollo2. I believe Alarm Alarm is spot on. Alarm Alarm sounds like he/she understands perfectly the sarcasm by Justin Seine. I think we all “got” what Justin was saying. He is being facetious about a ridiculous situation by saying we should all go out and just erase all of the history.
sorry I misread it myself. thanks for the correction.
CRollo2, no worries. I did not mean for it to be a “correction.” Only my thought that maybe Alarm Alarm really did understand the sarcasm. It is VERY easy to misunderstand when all you have is written words! I can see how what Justin Seine said could be misunderstood. 🙂
NashvilleTiger: I noticed the small 🙂 sign on your post. I have seen this from time to time with other people’s posts. Would you mind telling us if there is a significant meaning, and if so what is it for? Thanks, just curious.
Hello, socialsavvy! The 🙂 is a smiley face. if you look closely, you can see this one 😉 is different, and is a “wink.” This one, 🙁 is a frown. I wish they would show the emojis when people type these things!
Thank you so very much! That is wonderful! I am really supposed to be very old, but I’ve subtracted for years and I really enjoy funny and cute things. thanks again. Happy Thanksgiving in case I miss you.
Thank you so much! I hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving and a Merry Christmas as well!
You’re right N.Tiger. I am grateful for your note.
If sarcasm lacks logic it loses its caustic
effect -:)
What gets me is none of these black nut cases were or their grandparents ever were slaves. Just another way to raise hell, Show their ignorance of what is the real problem. They are lazy and want everything given to them for free!!
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Thank the democrats for that one from LBJ to Obama .
Leave the democrats out of this. I thought that the republicans were the ones who were the one and only advocates of the black issues.
Here we go separating ourselves because of opinions and likes and dislikes. If you are familiar with those wonderful works of art on Jackson Sq. in New Orleans, you will remember them for the fact they were figures of humans in American history. The statues were put on Jackson Sq. not to be worshipped because they owned slaves, nor because they were factors in the civil war. They were put there because their history is part of what happened in America as it grew, with all the good and the bad. So these fine works of art offend people whose ansesters were caught up in history as slaves. Should their statues be included, of course. Not to show they were less, but to state a fact. Their labor made others very wealthy and their slavery was a sad thing, but it happened.
I found it most interesting in travels in Europe how they treated the statues of the oppressing rulers of their past nations. The slaves were the citizens of the very nation that they served, and the wealthy, who owned them. They were the poor, they were peasants, they were citizens with no rights. When their revolutions resulted in freedom and they had republics, they did not destroy the statues of the ruling class. Today these statues are viewed and not hated because the people’s ansesters were in slavery under these nobles and kings. The statues are works of art and thought of in that way as much as a point in history that is not wanted to happen again, but accepted as a fact of history.
Fine art in the form of statues of history’s leaders, at a time that was painful for many,
have been removed from viewing of anyone. It is hardly reasonable to believe that everyone of these statues represent a person who offended everyone’s ancestor. I understand that the statue represents a period of time that the ancestor’s were enslaved. I just think that historical items are not worshipped but viewed as a part of history only, whether good or bad history. The loss of the opportunity to view them is actually taking away the rights of some who appreciate the art, as this is how they see the statues. It is good to be reminded of history.
The Democrats Are The Scum Behind The Erasing Of Their History, Of Slavery, The KKK Jim Crow Laws, Racism, Lynching etc… The Communist Democrat Want To Erase Their History, That’s What This Is All About… .. Every Time A Democrat Politician Opens Their Mouths More Lies Come Out.. They Are The Most Corrupt Political Party In The History Of Our Country, The Democrat Party Must Be Abolished For The Good Of The Country And The American People….
I AGREE BUT ALSO THEY ARE IN SOROS POCKET AND WHAT SOROS AND OBAMA WANT THEY GET
Not if we can help it‼️ We the people are sick and tired of this dumb, moronic attitude. We are united in rescuing our beloved America from these imbeciles. It is past time to stand up against this tyranny from Soros, OWEbama and the Demonazis. God bless OUR PRESIDENT and God bless AMERICA‼️‼️
I agree!!!
There are times when we need a new government, and this is one of those times. I support the Article V Convention of States and a 28th Amendment to reform and take back control of our government. I strongly urge each and every American citizen to sign the petition now circulating to convene that Convention. We cannot ignore this, for I am convinced that we do so at our peril!
Agreed
We must stand behind our president and make America great again. The left wing and isis are responsible for the terrorist attacks on American people.
Soros should have been executed many years ago….
As well as Obama
touche’
CIA should be going after Soros.
I’m down on the CIA and the FBI. I think that obozo filled high positions with the same kind of no good subhumans as he himself. I think each person working for the government should be throughly vetted and see if we have enough left to field a baseball team. Comey and Mueller have shown they are not to be trusted. When I see Mueller go after the sorry Clinton’s and their ilk I will believe they are interested in doing the job they are suppose to be doing.
I agree . I do not trust Mueller. He is just milking the gov. and tax payers with his so called investigation. All he is doing and his 20 special cancel or people who are suppose to be on payroll in doing is taking the tax payers money. All they can turn up is old news. The real news “Clintons” are been pushed under the rug! He is also a Democrat We should hire someone from Japan , or another country to do this investigation, because he is never going to tell or let the truth, come out about the Clintons and OB, and the rest of the evil that has been taking place in Washington for the last 8 yrs. Everyone has been sworn to secret.
So true
These idiots demorats are resisting against patriotism and the they admit it, this is communism at work.
Obama is not a subhuman. I hate that kind of talk, it is very Nazi in nature. That very belief is what allows a group to kill another group. I agree with the rest of your statement.
I agree he’s worse than a NAZI.
These idiots work for America and the American people, we the people do not work for them.
So true!
Do not forget the Clintons! Low lifes!
Time for the CIA to do there job.
We must remember that these are communists wearing the Democrat badge, they are trying to destroy what America stands for, freedom.
I agree.
Well said !
GOD”! You Said It Very Well”! The Liberal Dumbocrat Is The Evil Of The Land.
Never vote for these evil so called demorats. Get them out of our government.
The DemocRATs were in fact the party that was against freeing the slaves. They passed the Jim Crow laws. They killed Republican Abraham Lincoln. They fought Republicans in the Congress against giving full rights to the blacks. LBJ and Clinton were racists. Democrat Gov Orval Faubus (AR) and Democrat Gov. George Wallace (AL) fought integration. The DemocRATs have convinced the ignorant blacks that they are for the blacks – they give them federal housing, food stamps, etc to keep them in poverty. They do nothing to improve their education so that they can EARN better living.
Not all black Americans are ignorant, as you well know. Through hard work and against all odds, millions of them are good citizens who raise their children to be good citizens. They seek the same goals that you and I aspire to, they pay taxes, serve their country well, and hold positions of public trust. They’re in law enforcement and the legal profession (my attorney is black), they’ve taught my children and occupied our pulpits, and in general are fine citizens, among whom I have counted as friends.
The demorats were the ones that formed the KKK! Just ask Condelesa Rice WHY her father registered to vote as a Republican!! When he went to register with the demorats, they sent him away because he was black!! When he went to register to vote with the Republicans, they welcomed him! Also, Martin Luther King was a Republican!!
So true about erasing THEIR history. They even say it is OUR history that is theirs and vice versa (that somehow our political parties mystically swapped so they can deny they wanted slavery – and still want slavery). And the black community has bought their lies. Astounding. Absolutely astounding.
Agreed
Vote for a dummycrat is a vote for communism.
Freedom Rules,
You are so correct. The DEM’s were and are the party of deceit in America. Passing evil laws that most citizens did not even know about. Everything you say is correct about what they did and who they are. I never put that together that they are attempting to eliminate their own evil, could be. Did you read the Big Lie by Dinesh D’Souza.
We did not realize how correct Senator McCarthy was. If we knew than could have eliminated the problem. They must be eliminated now to bring America back to a moral country.
How many republicans do you see that want to remove the statues and wipe out that part of history ???? It is Democrats and our media that want to destroy the past good or bad .
I know people of all kinds who do not want history, in the form of art, erased from the streets. It is not a democrat nor republican ill, it is absolutely irreverence for the history and how we got here from there. If God would let me remove every thing that hurt my feelings, or offend me, there is no telling just how far that would go. My grandparents were indentured servants, paying their way to the US BY working 7 days per week, 24 hrs, per day on call, on a dairy farm for 7 years. I know the ships passage was cheaper than that, but it was their way to leave fammon do what ever it took to live. I do not feel anger because I think that they could have been treated better. I do not care if that dairy owner has a big stone figure of himself in his little town. My parents got to a better place and married, had a big family, bought a big farm themselves and gave a very good legacy to this nation. All that, of course, was not slavery that was forced etc. I certainly understand that. However, just love beautiful art, and statues are art. I wish we would not have to rearrange everything because of some people’s fragile ego.
Please excuse my spelling and my inadequate spell check on the word fammon????? I tried it all.
In all reality, these are liberal left Democrats tearing down statues of Democrats, that they erected as Democrats in the twentieth century. It has nothing to do with anyone else. All other statues are the casualties of their war on themselves!!!!
It was a way of life back then , big shots would run down to the piers every time a boatload of people came in and offer them jobs that worked them for all they could . Even in the 50s refugees [ DPs as Americans called them ] had to have sponsors .That was the best system the USA had , but as usual something good gets thrown away .For some reason spell check on this site does not always function .
Hi… Good read! By the way, fammon is spelled
‘famine! You were very close nevertheless, I did enjoy your letter…t’was a good read! Thanks!
They have no feelings, they are hell bent on destroying America.
I with you. Hey none of the Blacks are slaves now. But in a since, they are slaves to the GOV. because of entitlements, welfare, food stamps etc. The Demos. are keeping them down and they do not realize it. They are slaves to drugs, alcoholic, gangs members. They are slaves to violence. Some are slaves to education, even today there are many that can not read. Because they are drop outs of school. They are slaves to having babies out of wed lock, no morals! Therefore their children are raised without morals, and then it just a cycle that keep going. no father in the home, which breaks down the family unit. Not God’s plan. They do not realize when you let the Gov. support you, and control your life, you are owned, no freedom. Because you are brain washed believing they care about you and all they are doing is trying to get your vote. It sad these people do not see this!
These people DO see it. You cannot generalize and lump all Blacks into one category. They don’t fit. My son’s best friends were Black. There are many that are very religious and not all are like those you see on TV. Not all Black families are welfare families. Give me a break! The Democrats took the father out of the home back in the 60’s by making it easier for the woman to get welfare. That is the problem that you find in the inner cities. There are also more Black children attending college than White in many areas. Judging from your picture it is evident that you do not have first hand contact with them.
My great grandparents came from Wales in steerable in the late 19th century, and my mother’s great grandparents left Alsace even earlier to escape Louis Napoleon’s clutches in 1825. They sailed on a packet ship out of Le Havre and settled in northern New York State and became successful apple growers.
That is great to know about our relatives from the past. All my mother’s family, as well as she, lived to be very old.
I understand that my paternal grandfather left Alsace in the late 1800 between the two wars left France. He had a German name, which many did in Alsace. However, he was Jewish. I haven’t reviewed the literature I have on this recently so the dates may be inaccurate.,
But republicans “whites” are the ones that dominated land that us Indians were on before them, and making it theirs.The whites are trying to make earth a one skin color planet.
Yous bins brainswahed .
I am part Cree and it was not the Republicans that owned or dominated the lands, but Democrats with their acres and acres of it. Republicans were town dwellers. Do learn some history before you spout out something. My ancestors have lost battles on two continents. Not just one. Many American Indians are as white as what you want to call “White” men. The “Red” man’s name came as the color of our skin from living outdoors. Another thing, you cannot sit and judge a person by the color of their skin. Unless you know a person’s ancestral background, you don’t know what colors they may have in them. White men are one of the most diversified in color of all the races out there. They are also the first to come to the aid of people of color. FYI, a little footnote, our skin colors were determined by the climates that we came from. It was a gift from the Great Spirit or of the God of what people may worship. It was given to us that we may survive the areas from which we are from. That’s a little science lesson. On another note, ancient Native Americans were more tolerant of the White man than you are.
I Agree
I agree with some parts of this!
Agreed!
Heath Mrotek It seems to always be the Democrats that are bringing skin color into any situation that they do not agree with
You are wrong, I am white and I support the native Indian. I was born in America this was not my choice.
They are the domestic enemy, Trump should bring down the full force of our military on them.
There is such a thing as the Posse Comitatus Act, which stipulates that the United States Military cannot be used to enforce civilian laws. Therefore, this will never happen.
The Posse Comitatis ACT didn’t stop the 82nd Airborne Division from being sent to Little Rock in the 1960s to enforce school entagration.
Yes, and they were ordered in by President Eisenhower.
Radio/TV news is toast. They say exactly what is NOT the truth:(:(:( IF they were to say the truth, there would be no on air media:)
They’re talking bobbleheads.
None!!!!!
Hey you demo started this
I am not a part to change everything and I do not want to destroy my country in anyway. I want us to be able to be happy together and have no hate because you are white and I am green or blue or whatever, and those who are black or brown or yellow. That kind of hate takes too much energy and is bad for your heart, and your health. I like most people. Some like to insult me who do not know me, and after a while I just drop them. But did the demo’s start this, I was referring back to the Civil war. Frankly it will take all of us to stop all the bad and do all the good, huh?
Social Savvy? I think not! the slave owners INCLUDING the Black slave owners of the 365 Black owned plantations were ALL democrats politically. This did not change in the South until the 1970s, and then only for a very short time. I feel that you need to stop ‘drinking the Kool Aid’ and take a drink of history.
Hi Texas on your mind: It was the other day that one of your friends in the party corrected me and said that the people who supported the blacks were Republicans and it was the Democrats who were the KKK and all that I had said was wrong. I give up. I am going to say that it was all mixed…..
I do think that the north had the most republicans and the south had demo’s. I wasn’t there so I just will take what the last person says until I look it up. Nice of you to offer me Kool Aid, can’t imagine that from someone who wants to be in Texas.
You are having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent, you can’t win
So True!
Why are the Demorats so opposed to Trumps extreme vetting and travel ban on certain countries. Demorats are getting good Americans killed.
Because they really do not care about the American people. It all about votes! That ‘s why they are fighting ID with voting because that’s how the illegals are voting. And they vote for the Democrats because they want the Gov. “working class tax prayers,” to keep supporting them. Welfare, Social Services, food stamps, abortions, health care, phones, name brand handbags, low taxes or no taxes for those that actual work, support and take care of their children, child care free! Men and women running around having a bunch of children that the gov. has to take care of, because the father of child, or should I said sperm donor of child could care less. But you really can not blame the men, the women lie down with them. There is no reason anyone should every have a unwanted preg. because most get free sex protection. part of women health project that the Democrats started. They are slaves to the Democrats and they do not even realize it. They are been controlled by the Democrats . And the Democrats are getting rich. They are not free. Anything that you think is free is been paid for by someone. Just like it was during the civil War, but The Democrats own them.
Very well said! Thank you!
I believe we have some who wants to rewrite our HISTORY.
That’s a bunch of crap, none of us knew our relatives that long ago and the truth is no one cares so stop the BS. All this is about is ruining a free country and that is all it is.
I did not meet my grandfather on my father’s side, but I did meet my grandmother from Wales. My grandparents on my mother’s side of the family were both from Norway. They both were indentured servants. Worked their 7 yrs, everyday, 24 hrs. per day, to pay their passage to America. When freed they married and went west. Have a cattle ranch/wheat farm. My grandfather died at age 55yrs. I got to meet this grandmother too. She lived to be 91. You just don’t know my age to be able to have done this. Regardless, I have nothing to gain by making such a statement if it weren’t true.
Actually, the statues of Stalin, Lenin, and various others were torn down and destroyed by the very people you called slaves. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9bac47b7927517838eff71a1daaad14b5f61c5a29988de8e6d5b926ab15eb67c.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f09e9ef636552743da0e1305f32faeddcdc17afad0657014fb964c1a951a17e4.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7f3cece6204d3509fbeaf953459fb83b1a13b078dc12f0452c1988e1b0f1ffa2.jpg
This is true and I thought about it. I think it is the fact is was a different time and the Russians likely did not give a hoot about the artist’s work. A different people. A different purpose. Different values.
It was not just the Russians. It was the Italians, the Germans, and the French, also. Statues of Mussolini, Hitler, and others hit the ground. It had nothing to do with art as many were forced to make them. It was a different time, because it was a time of despair. The war to end all wars devastated the entire European continent and stretched itself into the Pacific. These were tyrants and far from the types of people these statues represent in the US. These idiots are trying to tear down and smashing our long fought history. They don’t even know the history behind them or even care. They just want to smash anything that doesn’t fit into their narrow minded world.
They keep saying that they owned slaves. They don’t even know the history of slavery in this country. The first black slave owner was a black man and not all slaves in the new country were were black. Many Blacks fought for the South. If the slavery part is the cause, then Obama’s need to be torn down ,too. His ancestors were slave owners.
I have seen a lot of the statues in France. Inside the crept at the Royal Chapel are a whole array of fantastic art above the tombs where all kind of royalty is buried.. I do not recall the names but I can definitely tell you the art is amazing. Most is carved out of marble. Some granite. and what ever was used at the time. The palace of Versailles has a group of statues behind the castle along a walk with the fountains and pool. Of course the statue of the Sun King is right in front of the castle. The various castles in the central area of France have various statues inside the castles, as well as outside. Often, the owner of the castle (Nobles) as well as the King had their statue on the property.
I write of France as this is where I spent most of my time in Europe. The slaves in France as in other European nations in the early history were the citizens of that country. The French were slaves and it was after the French revolution that they were free. This took place in 1789.
You are right about the statues in Germany of Hitler, and Russia and Italy. All the French kings and noble were somewhat different than Hitler, and Mussolini. I have no doubt that the Russian Revolution got rid of the royals’ statues. This is a very different situation here than it was in Europe. One thing is very true that people seem to skip right over. Who sold the Negro slaves to the American buyers? When the slave traders sold the slaves to American buyers, it did not excuse the use of slaves by the Americans. However, it was not a moral issue, in the beginning, because slavery was accepted all over the world. I view the Civil war as most wars…..fought over money. It was cheaper for the Southern cotton plantations to send their cotton to Great Britain to have it woven into materials than it was for them to deal with the northern manufacturing companies because of the taxes levelled by the Northern states. Great Britain manufacturing co.s also were willing to pay higher prices for the cotton. The North put up a blockade out side of the port of Fort Sumter, as well as all ports of the Confederate States. The first shot was fired at Fort Sumter by the Confederate soldiers in an effort to break the blockade. I am not saying that the slavery issue was not considered by the Republican party. It was one of Abe Lincoln’s major issues against the southern states. However, in the mix, of fighting for the termination of slavery, was the fight regarding the taxation of the southern cotton growers product, when it was sent to the manufacturers of the North.
Having statues of various Generals who were in the Confederate army, or were Presidents of the Confederate States should not be an issue today. I am not the right person to be sensitive if you don’t like the statues. I have no objection of any of the statues depicting the slave trade. It certainly is not complementary to the Southern citizen. But it is a part of history just as much as MLK, whom I admire. Fragile egos are not a serious enough excuse to destroy or remove statues of the Southern Confederacy dignitaries. Everyone needs to know more truths about the Generals who are important enough to have their likeness put into statues. I do not believe that any of us want to repeat slavery. But knowledge is priceless.
I was not aware that there is a statue of Obama. That is fine should that be the truth. I do not have hate in my heart. I do not need to hate and neither do those who hate the Confederate Generals. They have been dead for years.
I agree about the art as I majored in the arts and sciences.
As far as slavery in America, less than 10% ever made it here. The majority of them were either killed by their Islamic captors or ended up in South America. The Africans which arrive in 1619 were treated as indentured servants. They were fed, housed, worked and were freed. It was not until the black man, Anthony Johnson, the first to own a Black slave took it to court to literally own a man as property. He came to America on a ship called the James in 1621. He was sold as an Indentured servant to an Englishman named Bennett and worked for twelve years in the colonial settlement of Jamestown. He was freed, changed his name to Anthony Johnson. He married an African woman who took the name of Mary and acquired 250 acres of land. Two of his sons, John and Richard, were also able to acquire land once they became adults.
Anthony Johnson used African Indentured laborers. One of them was John Casar. Expecting to be released from his indenture to Anthony Johnson, John Casar arranged to work for a white neighbor, Robert Parker. Anthony Johnson brought the matter before the Court, claiming that John was not a servant but a slave. The Court heard evidence from Johnson, from Parker, from Casar.
What isn’t being taught to our students is the fact that Johnson could bring a matter to court and be heard is cogent proof he was seen as a citizen of the colony with all the rights of a citizen. Including the right to bring a matter before the Court, and give evidence. He was the one that changed the way a servant became a slave.
I don’t have hate either. I just look at things from all sides. What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander! If you tear one down, because you use slavery as your reason. You tear them all down that have a slavery background. Just, making a point of their reasoning.
I love this, Thank you!
You are analytic aren’t you. It is called thinking. I like to do that and often find people refuse to think of anything but one way. I can be stubborn too, I am sure. My Grand Parents on Mom’s side were indentured servants from Norway. They worked 7 days per week and seem to be “on call”. That could equal being a slave. They however, were freed and went on about their lives and did really well.
I love to use my brain. I don’t want my head to be empty.
There were indentured slaves from all countries at that time. I’m sure if many were to really look into their backgrounds, they may find them in their own families. Slavery can also be used to the way the immigrants of the late 1800’s to the early 1900’s were treated. Many were grouped by COO and social classes with the lesser doing manual labor for next to nothing. That thinking led us to the Molly Maquires in our country. The group had originally emerged in north-central Ireland in the 1840s as an offshoot of a long line of rural secret societies including the Whiteboys and Ribbonmen, who responded to miserable working conditions and evictions by tenant landlords with bloody vengeance. I had relatives that were murdered by them and I had one relative that they liked and would dress him like a woman to smuggle him out. They were living in Schuylkill County, Pennsylvania at that time..
That is amazing. Your information that is. Not that you love to use your brain, although at times I believe that some people do not care. But back to your information. Your family came here from western Europe? Regarding these imports, as my grand parents, the 7 years of work owed their owner, had to do with their paying their passage to America from Norway. My Grandfather was originally an architect so got to take care of the many cows on the man’s farm. I imagine he did more than that with his building talents. My Grandmother was the cook and house maid. They had met on the ship coming to the US, so after serving their payment time, they married and moved to Montana. My Grandmother learned English by reading an English Bible. She wrote letters to me when I was a little girl. We used the mail then. My Grandfather, evidently learned a lot about raising cattle and farming. As he did both when freed. He did use his building abilities to the good two. It was very hard for people then but much better than the famine in Europe.
Right now when people who are trying to get away from their countries and go to Libya, and there they are captured by the Libyans and sold into slavery. They are trying to get away from terrorist in their own country in Africa. I’m watching the news from TV-5 in Paris.
My mother’s family goes back to the Cree here in the US. She always referred to herself as a Heinz 57. In her family we have German, Dutch, English, Welsh, PA Dutch, and the list goes on. It was the Dutch side that mingled with the Indians, but we go back a long long way. In her family we have several Masons. A few made it to 32 degree. My grandmother was an Eastern Star. It was my mothers grandfather that the Molly Maquires use to dress as a woman to smuggle him around so he would not get hurt. When I say my ancestors have fought on to continents, my grandparents came here legally from Lithuania. They met on the ship as well. They left to get away from communism. It use to be a country that stretched from the Baltic to the Black Sea. Now it’s a tiny speck on the map. My father and his siblings were born here and all served in the military. He would not teach us Lithuania, yet he could speak five languages. He said you speak English in the USA. There are not many of my family left over there or even here.
Slavery has always been a big part of the Muslim history.
My Norwegian grandparents always spoke English in front of their children. I imagine that they learned a good bit of English in those 7 yrs working in Minnesota. I remember reading about Lithuania when I was in the 5th grade. I also remember learning about their being taken by the Russians and some of the political changes in that area.
My father’s father, was from Alsace with a German name. He was a Jewish doctor, and left after WWI. My grandmother was Welch/Irish and they met in the U.S. My grandfather, and grandmother separated. She later re-married. I knew my grandmother, but the grandfather had a drinking problem and was more or less forgotten. At that time communication was not like it is now or even as 25 yrs ago. I am aware that the people in the US are all kinds of nationalities, but the history of Europe from WWI til now is so interesting. My husband is from France. His father was Hungarian, and his mother French. His father could read, speak and write 5 languages, including English. It is too bad he was killed as a prisoner of war during WWII. My travels in Europe has given me a lot of experiences that enriched my life a lot. My personal guide and interpreter made every thing very interesting too. My first trip to Europe will soon be 50 yrs ago. Time flies. Keep information of your family and keep on learning. That is great.
I was the only grandchild my father’s father saw. He died of the Black Lung the same year my one sister was born. He went to work as a coal miner after leaving Lithuania.
You would be surprised at the diversity throughout the USA. As a military brat, we had to learn the different slang throughout our own country. The east coast vs the west vs the north vs the south. They all have their own way of talking.
I agree about the statues, But the Blacks , Demos or whoever continue wanting statues destroyed, then it only right that we destroy all of them MLK!! as well! Bring it on! But all leaders come down, What is fair for one group should be fair for all!!!
How about the statue of Grant? Of course, Lincoln belongs to all of us, more or less. There are other artefacts, such as plantations villages where people go to see the old slave houses and other items. Do away with them if there is that much pain about men whose faces no one knows until they see the statue. I think you understand my point. Everyone cannot be pleased, but statues should not be an affront to people when it is about history. I do not remember if I said that Robert E. Lee is an ancestor of one of my very closest friends. Her sister was named for one of Lee’s daughters.
In Europe some of the statues are necked. Unnamed, of course. At least, I think they are. Anyway, there should be some kind of concept of the need for culture.
AGREE:)
Thank you
Man you just ramble, more like sosialretard.
Those communists are funding all this evil. Killary lost the election and now she wants to start a civil war, shame goes to that woman or demon.
And look what Obama is doing now:) Still in DC & doing everything in his power to continue to tear our Country to pieces. How much longer do we put up with him?????
He is a total POS that has been trying to destroy America since he took his first breath, Hopefully his last breath won’t be to far off in the future. A lot of police and good American people lost there lives because of him.
Please qualify your statement.
Special delivery package via drone might help .
Are you suggesting killing Obama? The FBI should investigate you.
If the FBI are not investigating Government officials and Hollywood threating to Killing [and on national TV] our President Trump many times and more than one time, do not think they care about Obama, they are all in trouble themselves, They cannot keep the fires out in their own department, why would they even care. They do not have time!
Obama is not bothering you. He is in DC for his daughter to finish her schooling there.
And what planet are you from?I want to live in a dream world too!!!! Give me a break, you think she in a public school. You can pay for private school anywhere!!!
It is my understanding that the daughter wanted to finish school in the school where she attended. I believe it was a private school. Continued schooling in ones school can be most important. My son went to a private school and they are not all the same rating academically.
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I agree. He has had his time, he and his ugly wife. They need to go away and stop runny down our president. MB is just jealous of our Beautiful Frist Lady. I watched her closely had the swearing in of President Trump and you could see that just could not stand it. She may as well been at the dentist office, she whispered. Look like she had being eating lemons! She did not want to be there because she still wanted to be the Frist Lady. I am woman, and I’m not stupid. I continue watch other women, Have watched them for years it called getting to know your enemy as well as your friends. And I can read them like a book, trust me. Most men do have a clue! Women watch other women, ask any woman, and can almost read their thoughts!
Has any of you checked to see how much M.OB and her family{mother] and who knows how many more of her family members, spend traveling the world while they were living in the white house.AND TAX PAYERS PAID FOR IT! people and kids in USA hurting and staving with many needs, and she spend thousand traveling and having a good time, I bet she had never been out of the country until then. I heard it on the news several months ago and it was shocking! Makes me sick.!!!!!!
Same problem in Canada with open doors to anyone who can survive our high taxes and cols weather
On a more somber note—-This morning I got up looked around –had a good stretch –and–wondered who I offended today —
Some people are convince that it is appropriate to have their fragile ego’s on display and so they destroy all that is white. This is not the normal people, it is people who want to be noticed and make a big statement. They like being here in America just as I do, but to push the historical artefacts out the door is not helping themselves in anyway. It is not helping America.
The true meaning of TEAM WORK!!
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I have nothing but honor in my heart for the American military and their devotion to America, and I know that we have all races who are America military. I have never liked war because of the very scene your picture showed. I hope you understand my opinion about saving those statues that offend others. I just have a hard time understanding that and I love art. I love history even the awful and cruel facts that we have to learn. I do not want the bad to ever be repeated. Thank you for your post to me.
I understand completely,
It takes all kinds to make the world go round! History is A learning experience to not make the same mistake twice. Death is just part of life. Some just live longer than others. Keep the faith that we can get this Country back on tract!
My husband says I spend a lot of time writing on these threads. I think I will just spend a lot of that time praying for our nation. We will be all right, I HOPE! We just don’t need all this division, but some minds never see things the same. Thanks for your post. I’ll keep your name in mind!
They are the cause of there own racial problems.
I totally agree. Remember—to some of these people—work is a 4 letter word:(:(:(
There was slavery in the north before and after the Civil War. There were black slave owners. Slavery has been around for thousands of years. Hundreds of thousands of WHITE military fought and died to end slavery. This nation owes NOTHING to the black man for something that happened 150 years ago.
Since the Civil War ended in 1865 you can add their great grand parents and probably even their great, great grand parents. Racism has been a continued issue, but was finally turning a major corner before Obama came into office. Race relations were the best they’d been and then O worked his lying magic to deceive nearly the whole black community into believing they were still slaves. Someone needs to define what a slave actually is. Human traffickers can tell you.
Good point!
F them all, dirty snakes will rot in hell.
Ya know—we can now all pretend that we don’t have a history? Wow, how ignorant can we be, to allow the fruits/nuts to continue to tear down our American heritage? American history is who we are folks—you cannot “change” history. I am a proud American who served for 32 years in the USN, was in Vietnam 3 tours & some lowlife wants to stomp on MY Country—Nope—don’t think so.
Liberals are sick minded people. They make our country unsafe.
Let them remove them all, anything that commemorates or mentions a slave owner, then we can gradually remove them from history classes, until they no longer exist. Then if they didn’t exist, they couldn’t have owned slaves in the first place, therefor there was no slavery. We could all become like the holocaust deniers, and believe that that piece of history never happened.
10-4 ! LET GO ALL IN AND JUST WIPE OUT ALL THE GOOFY STATUES INSIDE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND OTHERS AND PUT UP IMAGES OF ALLAH!! AND HIS 40 WHORES WHICH A MOUTH OF THICK SLICED MAPLE SUGAR BACON GREASE DROOLING DOWN THEIR CHINS!! LET JUST PLAY RIGHT INTO THE ENEMY’S HANDS. GOOD JOB AMERICA!!!
That’s what is going on and these wimps we call Americans have become weak and timid..Chicken Sh-t bunch of b—–d’s
Why doesnt the US armed Forses Put some PIG BLOOD in all the amo used to In fighting so maybe these SOB wont get to see their 72 young Virgins when they go to Hell ,they will get to kiss TOOTHLESS Ugly old she DEVILS. Maybe that would make them think ??
MIGHT WORK !!! TRY ANYTHING
Now they are renting trucks & running over people on bikes & pedestrians in New York. Eight killed & 12+ more injured, just yesterday:(:(:( Just how many more Americans will be killed by these Muslim SOB’s before our Country wakes up and smells the stink they put out, on us all???? Deport them IMO!
Exactly! Then we can put “minority” heroes or maybe some Muslim historic figures on the currency!
Starting with our EX Muslim .
They would like that for sure. What kind of people are so offended by inanimate objects.
Right you are! Rip them Franklin’s to shreds , head to the grocery store tell them you need groceries for free because you are a special snowflake and Presidents insult you!!
That is silly. Not logical nor is it an adult statement.
Neither is tearing statues of American heroes and statesmen, not to mention Presidents.
The statues in NO were taken down by professionals and put in storage. I am hoping that there will be a museum that will be for artefacts of the civil war and these statues to be place there for viewing. I think a Parish of Beauregard took the statue of Cornell Beauregard. It is to be placed in front of their court house. People in Europe still keep and do not allow their statues of those nobles and kings who enslaved their own people and worked them to death. The art is excellent and the idea is that the people of Europe over came slavery and the statues are of dead rulers. Those people are logical to say the least.
That is very logical and makes sense. ck out below.
Nor is erasing anything historical logical or sane, get the point???
I totally agree.
Those types might as well just worship George Soros. It’s what “taking The Lord’s Name in vain” really means.
Great comment!
I agree, what is next??????
Can anyone tell me why Obama and his Cronies are not in Jail? He was a Traitor to our Country?? Not to mention Clintons who used their power for PAY FOR PLAY. It is because of them that the Russians own 20 % of the US Uranium mine out West in the USA For which I beleive they got $150,000,000 to their Clinton Phoney Foundation????
Quick, Let’s change the name of all the streets in many cities from MLK Boulevard/Street/Avenue et al, as long as we are willing to lose the founding fathers from memory. Let us start with the MLK Monument in the Mall in Washngton – A White colored monument to a colored man!
Well said Justin, any church is a house of worship and if any one feels uncomfortable in a specific site, they should simply go to another and not impose their beliefs on the members of that church.
Or send those offending the bills and coins to me. I know a quick and easy method to dispense of them, and I am willing to take on that responsibility. And before someone wants to tar and feather me, or hang me in effigy, the previous offering was only offered in sarcasm.
This whole darn thing has been blown all out of control, are we becoming a nation of pantie waits. Gosh O Mighty, reading this crap they are protesting about, plaques, statues, the ten commandments. It hurts my poor little feelings. Will my protest be heard? Obviously not. LOL
I’d rather that they just send their $bills ME for further disposition…
Please do not be in contact with ANY USA currency. The bills all have photo’s of former slave owners:)
Liberals offend me, let’s deport them.
I agree! I know why don’t we rename all the cities and states, Because of the had a Civil War camp in them. Rename all the churches remove Christ from their name because we may offend some one. Rename all street that have MLK’S name on them because people are offended, reminds them of a bad time for our country during the 60″s Because just like now people were split, families broke a part, people were killed and injuried .People are carrying this whole thing to the extreme.
If these idiots do not like the founding fathers of this great nation, they should move to another country they will feel comfortable with. Possibly communist Cuba, communist North Korea, communist China, etc. These snowflakes sicken me!
People that are offended are communists that are trying to help other countries take America over.
Oh no, you’re using common sense and logic. They won’t understand a thing you said. Next they’ll want the cross to come down because it is just ridiculous to believe God died on a cross. And then it will be the Bibles and the Hymn books… surely they are just useless relics for this progressive day and age. And while we’re at it, just quit talking about that Jesus guy altogether and let’s talk about making the world a better place, like communism! (But we’ll leave out the pesky little mass starvation problem.)
They sure like the American green back.
who was offending the Latrino and the blm ?
This Country is going “bat sh*t crazy”, you know it looks like everyone is offended about something. You can thank
Obama for starting all this BS. When will it all end more than likely when all of the offended break out their guns and
start shooting at each other like the fools that they are.
This is not going to end until they turn the country over to Muslim rule, and then they will realize that GW didn’t behead them, dictate to them, and ect, but they are captivated by OB’s liberal doctrines that are leading to Shari dictating to the country. Just think, Sharia gives them no choice, at least GW gave a foundation to the country only to see it taken out under these liberal retards who want everything for free and not have their touchy feelings hurt. Only wished they were honorable adults who would support what they have been given, but selfishness will kill the country. Until they stop their selfishness they will have no happiness, and the happiness they did have when they gave to the country will be no more after they gave it up over selfish motives and became open to the biggest enemy, George Soros, and Sharia Law, both very destructive.
Sir William: Why do you want to blame Obama for your not being able to control your fragile ego. He took more insults, and hate than any President in American history. He did not get your guns. Did not want to take your guns, and did not remain in as president as you and your kind insisted that he would after listening to Alex “LIAR” Jones.
Yes, this country has gone nuts. Especially when you hear a candidate rave and threaten a loose controlled President of NK before he was even elected. He has us sitting on the edge of war. He thinks he is put upon because the media reports his statements by showing videos of him and every word he says. I could go on with the injustices the Pres. has done or tried to do, but I do not want to find that this country has given into having a one party government that will lead us to a dictatorship. This is something to really be concerned about. If it does, then we definitely have gone BS crazy.
The reason is Obama started from the get go and came down on the police and it started with his Harvard Buddy and OB said “the Police acted stupidly” okay? Your boy stirred up a lot of s*it. What do you mean by “you and your kind”? I thought there was only two kinds Male and Female, Oh and Transgender. So you think that your boy was subjected to more hate than any President, apparently you have not noticed what President Trump is going through already only less than 1 year in office. Your Man, because I am sure you will take offense for my calling your Man, Boy he had a walk in the park by comparison. So you are afraid that this country will be turned into a Dictatorship, well I think you are right if we let the democrats run the show. You can bet your butt that if the Dems. run the show, they will open the borders and allow Sharia Law to be installed. Savvy that?
First, “you and your kind”. I meant people who opposed anything that the demo’s supported or did and are extreme against much of the social programs that are important to the poor and middle class of this nation. I apologize. I think that was a bit of a transfer of anger from an attack by someone else and you did not deserve such. Me and my man or boy. Well, I looked at policies and the medical program that the demos and Obama originally wanted and how it was fought to the end. The funny thing about the Obamacare or AHA was that it was taken from Romney’s health program for Massachusetts. Anyway, I have an idea about health care and the reason for it.
Now you know that when I view and listen to Trump, to me he causes his own problems. He keeps people all stirred up and all in a twit. I am very concerned because I remember his planning and wanting a war whenhe was running for office. He promised that we would WIN wars as we had not previously done so. To win a war, you must have a war, you must fight a war. Then to threaten Nu who has been held in a more calm manner for a long time. These people are very afraid of us and have been taught from birth that we are their enemy. They really think that we are going to jump on them. So does that little crazy man.
Now, do we have any, I mean any, any place in the US where the Sharia Law is the law of the town, state, or county? It is against the law to change the law to fit that law.
Open borders, well that is hardly what we need. The natural borders that we have in some places are very effective. I can definitely say that there are nations in Europe who have closed borders. This was particularly true the first few times I went to Europe. I have not been there lately, but the people we know there are not happy about open borders. There is always something going on that is against the better home for the Arabs who want to live in peace there. There are many who have been in France for a very long time and do not like the influx of all those who are coming through. The wars in the middle east has caused Europe a lot of problems. Now we, with the help of other European countries are doing, I don’t know what all over Africa it seems. I’m chewing and it is a big bite and it is hard because a lot of everything is true for you and also for what I have said.
Freedom Rules wrote a lot of information and I mean it is real and makes a lot of sense and I am glad to have gotten it because he answered a lot of my questions. I am a Democrat of the old kind. The real ones and I am beginning to think I am a party of one. Soi this one has got to get out of here for now. thanks for your post. Have a good evening or morning whichever.
Bud—best post of the day:) Well said:)
This explains a lot about today’s Democratic Party.
In an article published in late June, anti-communist analyst Trevor Loudon, author of the book The Enemies Within: Communists, Socialists and Progressives in the US Congress, shined the spotlight on the multiple communists and “radical anti-American socialists” serving on the platform committee. Among the figures cited in the report are a number who have been involved in the “Democratic Socialists of America,” which Loudon described as “a communist group based on the theories of Italian Communist party theoretician Antonio Gramsci — an advocate of revolution through infiltration.” Other platform members were from what he referred to as “more traditionally communist groups.”
“Most of these individuals could not pass an FBI background security check to sell you stamps at the Post Office,” Loudon argued in his June 26 article. “They would not be allowed to clean the toilets on any military base in this country. Yet they are drafting policies that will shape the lives of more than 300 million Americans. It is time for loyal Democrats to realize that their party is no longer the party of Harry Truman, or JFK. It has been hijacked at the highest levels by enemies of the U.S. Constitution and American freedom.”
And indeed, there can be little doubt that some of the extremists identified by Loudon are hostile to the U.S. Constitution and the liberties of the American people. In fact, they say so themselves throughout the Democrat Party platform they drafted — a document that includes brazen attacks even on constitutionally protected liberties such as free speech, and of course flagrantly denies even the right to life by promoting taxpayer-funded killing of unborn children across America and worldwide. The fact that the extremists were appointed with the support or at least tacit approval of leading Democrats, including Hillary Clinton and DNC boss Debbie Wasserman Schultz, also speaks volumes.
Several of the socialists identified by Loudon are affiliated with the Democratic Socialists of America, the nation’s largest and most prominent socialist organization. Aside from promoting dangerous tyranny and constitutional subversion in the United States, the DSA is also an affiliate of the totalitarian global alliance of communists and socialists known as the Socialist International. The SI, of course, is a world socialist government-promoting outfit that includes numerous murderous political parties from around the globe. So extreme is the global outfit that its 24th Congress in 2012 was hosted by a Marxist political party whose president was at the time busy advocating genocide of minorities on national television.
Another dangerous outfit well-represented on the Democrat Party’s platform committee is the Communist Party USA, once a tentacle of the mass-murdering Soviet regime in the United States. However, the presence of CPUSA friends and activists on the Democrat Party’s key committee guiding the party’s positions is hardly a surprise. Last year, the CPUSA’s boss, John Bachtell, even boasted openly that his Marxist-Leninist organization “utilizes” the increasingly radical Democratic Party to advance its totalitarian objectives in the United States. “At this stage we are about building the broad people’s movement led by labor that utilizes the vehicle of the Democratic Party to advance its agenda,” Bachtell wrote to his supporters.
The first anti-American socialist highlighted by Loudon is Dr. Cornel West, a supporter of socialist Bernie Sanders and a supposed “theologian” who does not even bother to conceal his radical socialist views and extreme agenda. In fact, after decades of membership, West also became Honorary Chair of the Democratic Socialists of America. West also founded the socialist New Party in the 1990s and has produced a great deal of Marxist propaganda, including, among other resources, the book The Ethical Dimensions of Marxist Thought. He has been a pioneer in exploring how race-mongering and fanning race hatred can be exploited by socialists to advance their totalitarian agenda.
Also cited by Loudon is Representative Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), another Sanders supporter who, among other controversies, has been a supporter of the radical Nation of Islam. Despite his open advocacy for homosexuality, Ellison is the first “Muslim” elected to the U.S. Congress. He is also “a longtime associate of the Minnesota Communist Party,” according to Loudon. “Keith Ellison has held several meetings in the home of recently deceased Minnesota Communist Party leader Erwin Marquit, was elected with the help of teams of communist phone bankers and has contributed an article to the Communist Party USA‘s People’s World website,” Loudon explained. Indeed, the CPUSA’s propaganda mouthpiece even promoted Ellison’s campaign for Congress, calling him a “fresh progressive” and “established progressive leader.”
Another socialist helping to write the Democrat platform is Obama’s former “climate czar” Carol Browner. Plenty of the “qualifications” on her résumé ought to raise eyebrows for Americans concerned about freedom and sovereignty. Perhaps most alarming, though, is Browner’s leadership seat on the Socialist International’s “Commission for a Sustainable World Society,” which openly sought to impose “global governance” on humanity and “promote socialist ideas and work towards this objective at international level” under the guise of dealing with supposed man-man global warming. Browner also has a long history of working with extremist groups, including an outfit known as “Citizen Action” founded by former Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) radicals.
Numerous other extremists with troubling track records of totalitarian, anti-constitutional extremism are also listed among the platform committee’s members. Representative Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), for example, is “a former member of the pro-Cuba, Marxist-Leninist Puerto Rican Socialist Party,” Loudon explained, adding that Gutierrez, an open-borders activist, was also involved with a Maoist group and the socialist New Party. Gutierrez is currently in hot water for showering hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign funds on his wife and daughters.
Also listed is Paul Booth, a Big Labor organizer for government workers and a DSA leader whose group has helped train “thousands of community organizers in Saul Alinsky tactics.” Alinsky dedicated his book on how to seize power to Lucifer. Representative Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), described by Loudon as “a longtime associate of Democratic Socialists of America and the Communist Party USA,” is also on the platform committee. Lee, who has been to Communist Party-ruled Cuba more than 20 times, was also a secret member of the Communist Party breakaway group Committees of Correspondence.
Of course, none of this is a new phenomenon. In a March 1999 exposé of socialists and communists in Congress by The New American, Robert W. Lee showed how the “House Progressive Caucus,” founded by avowed socialists and communists, was becoming increasingly influential while attempting to conceal its extremism behind lofty rhetoric. Indeed, many of those identified had a long and dangerous history of working with America’s sworn communist enemies to subvert the U.S. Constitution and promote tyranny worldwide. Today, the extremists are more powerful than ever, and, along with their globalist comrades, practically run the Democrat Party.
Unsurprisingly, the Democrat Party’s draft platform reflects the dangerous extremism of the committee that wrote it. That is bad news for America. Indeed, if it were to be implemented, what remains of the Judeo-Christian foundations of America, the U.S. Constitution, and the liberties it protects would all be obliterated, along with America’s remaining prosperity. Americans who value the U.S. Constitution and the liberties it protects should educate others about the dangerous cast of characters that helped write the Democrat Party’s agenda.
Thank you so much for your article, or writing. I really appreciate hearing validated information. I does a lot more for me than having rude cursing and insulting people jump me for thinking I am something I am not.
Really, you have written something that I will share with my family. I do think that the communist will get into this government of ours anyway under any name they can. No one is exempt from their tactics.
I do want to add that because I am a retired social worker does not make me anti-American. That was my profession and I did what was right and by the rules that were applied by the government.
Thanks again for your information.
The “visitors” who are complaining about the plaques have no intention of returning in the first place. They are merely shills of the ultra-left
I WOULD RATHER USE THE WORD SHIT OF THE ULTRA LEFT.
Just1Saddletramp, probably so! There are people whose SOLE PURPOSE is to object to anything and everything. They are all offended by every single thing if they can find something to complain about. I am sure there are people who sit around and make themselves crazy trying to come up with something else to protest. Sick of it!
I am surprised that the church leaders don’t seem to realize that losing such unwelcome “visitors” is a blessing. I hope the plaque will be returned to its place. It’s never too late to do the right thing.
I want to know what is wrong with the rest of the people that attend that Church on a regular base? Why are they letting a hand full of Elders make this decision. I would think there was/is a great deal of pride in the fact at the Washingtons and Lee attended church there. I bet it’s in the tourist literature too which brings in extra money from visitors. PC is crap period! Why don’t they cry about our Nations Capitol being named after a slave owner? Maybe they’ll want it to be King, DC or Obama, DC. All this crap about our previous presidents from centuries ago is just dividing this country more. Americans have to stop letting these people use the PC/Racist Card! Just say NO!
THEY ARE AFRAID IF THEY DON’T FOLLOW THE OLD DUDES AND DUDETTES IN THE WAY THEY WANT THEM TO ACT OR CONFORM-THEY WILL GET DRUMMED OUT OF THE CONGREGATION OF GOOD PEOPLE AND SHUNNED- AND THEY ARE RIGHT. MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT GO TO CHURCH IS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THEY THINK IS WITHIN THE WALLS OF THE BUILDING- BUT MOST OF THE TIME WHEN THEY DO GET INTO THE STOMP OR CHANT WE WILL CALL IT FOR A BETTER WORD- IT IS STILL MISSING AND THE HARD TO READ AND ABSORB RELIGIOUS CONTRADICTIONS – MIXED WITH WHAT EVER PROBLEM THAT THEY HAVE- YOU HAVE NITRO AND GLYCERIN IN A BOTTLE AND ITS GETTING SHAKEN TO THE POINT OF A BRAIN EXPLOSION- WHICH CAN BE REALLY DANGEROUS FOR THE FAMILY MEMBERS- THEN ADD ALCOHOL – THEN YOU HAVE A BOMB WHICH CAN GO OFF AT ANY SECOND AND THEN OTHER PEOPLE DIE ALONG WITH THEM..
I STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM THEM AS POSSIBLE- THEN CAN DO MIND CONTROL ON THEIR VICTIMS- AND THE BAD PART IS A PREACHER CAN GO DOWN TO CITY HALL AND PAY $25 DOLLARS AND HE IS NOW ONE- ABLE TO COUNSEL AND PERFORM MARRIAGES- GET A TAX FREEE STATUS AND NAILS YOUR WIFE IF SHE THINKS HE IS THE BEST THINK SINCE THE INVENTION OF SLICED BREAD- IT HAPPENS ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY LIKE THE PLAQUE. A PREACHERS HAS A LICENSE TO KILL YOUR MARRIAGE IF HE LIKES YOUR WIFE AND WANTS TO NAIL HER- THEY TELL THEM ALL SORTS OF STUFF THE POOR BETRAYED WOMAN WANTS TO HEAR AND THEN “HERE COMES THE PREACHER WITH WANG IN HAND. READY TO HELP HER OUT OF THE BAD SITUATION- BUT ON THE QT YOU SEE. NO ONE IS TO KNOW OF THE ADULTERY HE IS DOING UNTIL SHE SEE’S THE REAL LIGHT AND HE WAS JUST SWATTING THE TWAT FOR FUN.. THEN HE TURNS ON HER LIKE A 2 HEADED SNAKE WITH THE ELDERS LOYALTY AND VENGEANCE. GO PAY FOR THE LICENSE AND SNARE A COUPLE OF THE CONGREGATIONS WIFE AND MAYBE EVEN A VIRGIN DAUGHTER. ITS A ROTTEN BUSINESS.
Please….don’t give any one any ideas! However, I want to tell you this. My best friend in high school was a descendant of Robert E. Lee. The family had the coat of arms etc. One of her sisters was named for REL’s daughters. I wonder how she would feel about the removal of REL’s statue from the square in NO if she were living? He was basically a very fine individual. I believe that history indicates that Lee did not have slaves or he freed all he had before the Civil war. He fought with the South because of the location of his home. People do not know much about the people that they hate because they believe that they are an offence.
ALL the clergy at that church in Alexandria, VA are female. Their photos are posted on their homepage. Homosexuals have taken over the Episcopal Church in general and particularly the one that is the subject of this article. Parishioners with traditional values are fleeing the denomination in droves during the past ten years.
Hmmmm. Good to learn this. Folks from Britain are about to send them a history lesson on their church founders. They are not going to like it when they learn that God does not like what they plan to do to His Saints of the past –the ones He calls ‘His chosen people, His Israelites from the Tribe of Manasseh’ who were destined to create a Great Nation that was not to be destroyed by a bunch of alleged perverts.
That is a sad situation.
CHURCHES ARE STRUGGLING TO KEEP FOLLOWERS IN THE FOLD TO PAY THE BILL AND THE OREACHERS SALARIES. EVEN THE BIG MEGA CHURCHES ON TV ARE STRUGGLING. I THINK ITS DUE TO THE AWAKENING OF MAYBE THE MASSES OR THE ENLIGHTENING OF THESE LOYAL MONEY FUNDING SUCKERS. SOME PEOPLE GO TO CHURCH TO BE SEEN WITH THE MOVERS AND SHAKERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND SOME JUST GO TO HIDE SOMETHING DEEP IN THEIR PASTS. AND SOME JUST DON’T KNOW REALLY WHY THEY SHOW UP EACH SUNDAY AND WEDNESDAY.
THE BELIEVER PART IS GETTING FEWER AND FEWER. I THINK NASA MIGHT BE THE REASON- THEY ARE EXPLORING OTHER WORLDS AND HAVE NOT COME ACROSS THE PEARLY GATES OR ANYTHING THAT RESEMBLE ANGELS OR A SUPREME BEING TRUCKING THROUGH THE FAR REACHES OF THE COSMOS. PEOPLE MIGHT BE SEE HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAVE SQUANDERED ON A HUMANOID THAT PUTS HIS PANTS ON ONE LEG AT A TIME LIKE THEY DO. AND PULLS OFF SOME REALLY CRAPPY STUFF TO HIS FOLLOWERS- AND IN THE NAME OF RELIGION. THE AWAKENING MAY HAVE STARTED .
WHEN ALL THE HARD CORE GOD SQUAD’ERS BEGIN TO THINK THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DUPED FOR CENTURIES OR THOUSANDS OF YEARS IT MIGHT BECOME FRIGHTENING FOR THEM. SO WE MIGHT HAVE NUMEROUS JONE’S TOWNS – ONE RIGHT AFTER THE OTHER WHEN THEY FIGURE THEIR BUBBLE HAS BEEN BUSTED OR DEBUNKED BY SOME REALLY SMART SCIENTIST AND ASTRONOMERS . I BELIEVE WE WILL START SEEING MASS CHURCH SUICIDES IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WITHOUT THEIR SUPREME BEING TO FALL ON THE SWORD FOR THEM – THEY WILL BE OUT IN THE RAIN ALL ALONE. SO, THEY DO WHAT THEY THINK WILL PUT THE NEXT TO THE SUPREME BEING- AND THAT’S WHAT THEY WERE TOLD AND BRAINWASHED TO BELIEVE FOR SOME OF THEM FROM THE VERY DAY THEY COULD WALK UPRIGHT. I’M GLAD I WON’T BE PART OF THAT EXODUS IN MASSES.
Come on, dear Snuffer. You can extinguish a candle, but not the sun -:)
Do you seriously doubt that a toothpick needs an intelligent designer? I don’t think so. The Mega Churches are one thing and the Maker of our awesome universe is quite another thing. Jumping to conclusions is not scientific -:)
SO, WHAT IS KILLING THE WORLD AND HAS SINCE WE BEGAN TO TALK TO EACH OTHER? LET ME ANSWER IT FOR YOU – ITS ONE RELIGION AGAINST THE OTHER CAUSING DEATH TO THE OTHER SIDES. RELIGION HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR MORE DEATH IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD- NO GUN BOMB OR ANY WEAPON INCLUDING THE PLAQUES OF THE WORLD- RELIGION BEATS THEM ALL IN DEATHS. BUT IT IS SO GOOOOOD!!
Generalizations are almost always false.
Where is the evidence? Show us the statistics.
Was world WWII, the deadliest of all conflicts in history, caused by religions? No. Approximate casualties: between 70 & 85 million victims.
Neutral Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Total_deaths
In their recently published book, “Encyclopedia of Wars,” authors Charles Phillips and Alan Axelrod document the history of recorded warfare, and from their list of 1763 wars only 123 have been classified to involve a religious cause, accounting for less than 7 percent of all wars and less than 2 percent of all people killed in warfare.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/rabbi-alan-lurie/is-religion-the-cause-of-_b_1400766.html
Hired hands to stir up more trouble , better check their ties to Obozo working behind the brick wall .
That is a very logical thought. There are people who run around causing people to have hate and discord. That is where we need to stop people, not our neighbors.
Anyone who is “offended” by a plaque honoring the “Father of our Country” should leave this country and go somewhere that is less “offensive” to them!
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Send ALL of the “offended” IDIOTS to that South American Garden Spot otherwise known as Venezuela! There they can be as “offended” as they may wish!
I JUST FOUND OUT WHY I HAVE NOT BEEN ANYWHERE CLOSE TO A PREACHER. WITH THIS LAST REVELATION OF WANTING GEO. WASHINGTON’S PLAQUES REMOVED FROM VIEW- I WONDER IF THEY WANT THEM REPLACED WITH AL “ASSHOLE” SHARPTON OR JESSE “THE TWAT DIDDLER” JACKSON OR A CREEP LIKE – JIMMY “JACK-OFF IN A PARKING WITH A PLAYBOY AND A WHORE TO BOOT” SWAGGART. WOULD THAT SATISFY THESE CAN’T FIND A JOB IN SOCIETY FAILURES- NOW MONEY AND TWAT HUNGRY CLERGY THAT “CAN BE TRUSTED” WITH YOUR WIFE AND DAUGHTER-YEAH RIGHT!! IF YA BELIEVE THAT I HAVE SOME LAND TO SELL CHEAP CHEAP. AND OUR HISTORY AND FIRST PRESIDENT REMOVALS ARE BEING CONSIDERED? .. HOW FRIGGIN ASININE – SOUNDS LIKE MORE BLM AND ANTIFA BS GETTING THROUGH. THIS COUNTRY’S BS IS GETTING KNEE DEEP.
Great post Snuffer
More than likely it was Obama type raising hell and the poor preacher wants his next pay check .
Somebody shoot me! This is the most unPatriotic thing I’ve seen since the NFL decided that kneeling for the National Anthem and disrespecting the flag was the right thing to do. This has turned into a “fad”, kinda like the iPhone or tattoos: he did it, she did it, so I’m going to join the fray and do the same, regardless of how stupid it might be.
Where does this STOP? Today, in this twisted society in which we live, EVERYTHING is deemed as offensive and must be destroyed. History and everything in between. This plaque has been affixed to the wall of this church for decades, but it might offend someone so now we have to rip it off the wall. How stupid!
What’s next? Tear down the Lincoln Memorial and put up a shopping mall? Sounds stupid, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it happens.
Yes you are so correct— there is just no cure for stupid or liberalism!!
I am just so sick of this stupidity and I see no one (GOPers) protesting this bullshit. LibTurds protest everything while conservatives just sit back and watch the leaves blow off the trees.
What a twisted country!
No one going to shoot you for telling the truth , the ones that hate the USA need to be the ones shot .
Here in Texas, we live with our guns loaded. Anyone darkens my doorstep and they’ll know.
It is getting that way in most places .
Hey, Darren, here too! Judge and Governor, nightstand guns 🙂 One for me and one for husband.
Na don’t ya forgit to put one of dems rilfules in the back winda of your pickup truck … never know when ya gonna run into a deer or a dumb-ass LibTurd! It’s huntin’ season, ya know. Gotta put something on that Thanksgivin’ table. If you’re lucky, it might be Killary. Stick an apple in her mouth and maybe she’ll be more appealin’.
2nd Amendment Rules; everyone else dies or wish they had.
LOL Darren Rusty. We don’t hunt, not our thing. As for HRC, I am in hopes that she will be one of those arrested tomorrow but I feel that she probably will escape justice as usual, as she and BillyBob have for years and years and years. This issue with the dossier and the Democrats’ involvement with Russia etc. has come back to bite them in the butt and I am anxious to see how this all pans out. I am still hoping for an indictment of the Clintons.
Wishful thinking. Ever heard of Teflon? These liars have been sliding on it for 30 years and will continue to do so.
Jurisprudence doesn’t exist with these people, nor most politicians. It’s a wet dream … unrealized in this world!
Hey, enjoy it … sometimes it feels good. You might want to down some porn just in case the aforementioned doesn’t get it for you.
See ya … happy dreams!
Yep, just what we call John Calipari (Ky basketball coach, former University of Memphis basketball coach…) Teflon John. Same with the Clintons, I get it. I am still hoping!
Hoping? Yeah, I’m hoping that my dog shits a gold brick egg this morning.
Good luck with that. Gotta run to Home Depot and get some Teflon … I hope Killary didn’t buy it all.
Have a wonderful Monday!
Don’t hold your breath! None of these Teflon idiots end up in prison. Yeah, Killary and Billy Willy deserve to be in jail, but I won’t see it in my lifetime.
You might wanna change your mind about hunting. You don’t protect yourself and you will surely be sorry.
Good for you girl … never, ever can you be too safe!
If I get a chance read the latest op-ed by Charles Krauthammer ! It’s one of the best ever and explains who and what on the left are responsible for all the protests! If u can’t find it on google I will be glad to email it to you!
It’s an outstanding 5 star editorial !
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I’ve read bits and pieces of it. A very intelligent soul.
Pray for him because he isn’t doing well after the last surgery he went thru.
I hope he returns to his chair on FNC very soon!
Yes I heard he was a bit under the weather. He is one of the best minds around. 🙏🙏 Houston just hit a home run!! It was fabulous !!⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️
A very intelligent soul and I wish him the best and hope for a full recovery very soon. He really wants to get back on FNC and Bret Baier’s show. Charles Krauthammer, being in a wheelchair, has had a hard life, but he persists.
Yes, Mr Krauthammer is a great correspondent and very intelligent.
He has been in a wheelchair since he was in college and yet has made enormous accomplishments in spite of
his handicaps. He is quite remarkable
and a brilliant scholar. I wish him well
And hope to see him back on tv soon.
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“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.”
(Attributed to Einstein)
LOL … Love Einstein’s quotes. They always speak the sad truth!
Great quote ! Thx
Wouldn’t surprise me at all. So sick of these people removing history. How do they get away with it? Don’t we have a say in anything?
Congress took our rights away decades ago when they turned into wimps .
For sure! I remember a time when people had dignity and self respect.
That went out the window as well .
Mayors and city officials have the power to do this unless the monument is on the NRHP registry. At that point, city officials can’t touch it.
Unfortunately, these monuments of history were never placed on the NRHP registry, so the municipalities can do what the hell they want with them.
Very, Very Sad!
Thanks for the info, I did not know that. It is very sad. What are our kids and grandkids going to be taught in history class? Maybe they will do away with history lessons altogether.
Jeez Carol … did I blink and miss it? Didn’t most schools do away with history long ago? When I was in school and college, history was required and there was no censorship or bullshit attached. You went, you learned, you studied and you passed.
That isn’t the modus operandi anymore. That is sad. These stupid people protest and they don’t even have a clue what they’re protesting about in the first place.
Pathetic!
Agree
Why don’t we take all Regilous, historical, billboards, road signs, pictures of anybody, monuments, statues, painting, books cloths, shoes, jewelry, makeup and everything else that might offend someone would that make these ass holes stop this crap? I think not as they would still find something to bitch about ow want something take down to please them. Enough is enough when are people going to start being adults and stop acting like baby’s.
There is nothing these crybabies don’t take offense to. Just give them time. There’ll be more things on their “lists” tomorrow. It will never end. This is out of control and just downright stupid. These people have nothing better to do than to come up with more things, everyday, to protest. Ignoring it all and everyone else would be best to ignore it as well because these people will never stop. They are crazy and disturbed.
Unfortunately, many are funded and organized by George Sorus and others trying to destroy our country! Many are foolish, uninformed dupes being led by the noses by others with an evil agenda!
Great thought, but ya know, it wouldn’t stop these LibTurds from doing the stupid things they do 24 hours a day. They’ve jumped from the pan into the fire and when November, 2018 & 2020 rolls around, they might figure that out.
One word for these people …
IDIOTS!
You are being to kind calling them Idiots !!!!
Do you have a better suggestion?
They are poop that belongs in the septic system , anything worse will be erased .
Oh, you mean SHIT? Nah it won’t be censored or erased.
I get your point. Many things I’d like to erase, but when it comes to LibTurd Liars, you can find a cure for cancer before you can get rid of these people!
Call the Orkin Man and have them sprayed with Cockroach eliminator .
I’ve tried that, but the LibTurds keep coming back. Maybe they’re immune to the pesticide. I’ll call Orkin, Terminix and the rest and get back to ya.
I’ve found that the one thing that works very well is a .357 or a Glock 44 Mag. Very effective! Kills pests of all kinds with only one shot!
My Orkin man uses 00Buck ,
I don’t care much about cockroaches … I wanted them to spray for LibTurds and Stupidity, but they said they’re out of stock on both until the day before the next election. I’m on the list.
Cockroaches and Lib Turds are one and the same , if the stock is out make your own .
Great post
WHILE WE ARE TAKING DOWN ALL THE PLAQUES AND HISTORICAL MARKERS WHY NO TAKE DOWN ALL RELIGIOUS SIGNAGE AND MAKE THEM PAY TAXES JUST EVERYONE ELSE DOES. NO MORE FREE RIDE FOR CHURCHES OR ANY THING RESEMBLING A CHURCH. NO MORE TAX FREE STATUS AND ALL PLATE DONATIONS HAVE TO BE MADE TAXABLE TO THE GOVERNMENT. DO THESE CHURCHES REALLY WANT TO OPEN A CAN OF WHOOP ASS FROM THE AMERICAN TAX PAYERS THAT ARE TIRED OF CARRYING THEM ON OUR BACKS ALONG WITH THE FREE FOOD PROGRAMS? WOULD THEY WANT THAT? MAYBE YOU SO CALLED CHURCHES SHOULD BACK OFF AND RE- EVALUATE YOUR STUPIDITY AND BIG MOUTHS.
Bunch of sick crap! He fought for the freedom this country offers! He was Our First President! Go someplace else to worship! Shame on the elders of this church who are acting like wimps!
If this was MY church, I wouldn’t ever go back to that church again. It would be time to find another place of worship. This has gone too far and it is never going to end until someone stands up and says ENOUGH. Just wait. Muslims are next. They are going to be “offended” by Christians and our churches. Offended by the crosses on the building. It will NEVER END until someone stops the insanity and says “NO MORE.”
nope.
if this were MY CHURCH, ID STAY AND MAKE THOSE DAMN SNOWFLAKE PUSSIES GO TO ANOTHER CHURCH.
Not me. I wouldn’t want to be preached to by the pastors etc who would cave to people like this. There are plenty of other pastors in churches who wouldn’t put up with this nonsense and that’s who I would want to be preaching the Gospel to me. But, that’s just me. It’s this church and its pastors who are not, in my opinion, worthy of teaching the Word if they give in to these people. But that’s just me.
well.
you make a good point.
back before our own Revolutionary War we had REAL PATRIOT PREACHERS who PREACHED SEPARATION AND INDEPENDENCE FROM ENGLAND, and some even led their CONGREGATION OF MEN INTO COMBAT AGAINST THE BRITISH.
wonder WHERE THAT TYPE OF PREACHER IS TODAY?
it obviously takes all kinds and I cannot believe this pastor is letting those who are literally being bullies to get away with what they’re doing. He essentially is joining them in their backwards logic and IMHO doesn’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to his decision. I wonder what the other parishioners are thinking. It’s incredible that some people think this is going to accomplish anything when they remove a statue or a plaque but as long they keep doing it and getting away with it, it’s going to continue and it is only fueling what could eventually become a race war. Ever since Obama took office, the division in the races in the United States has become greater and great with time. The whole situation is out of control and is getting much worse very quickly.
well.
it’s NOT THE WHITE PATRIOT MOVEMENT pushing this.
it’s the NIGLETS AND THEIR BLM AND ANTIFA THUGS AND THEIR WHITE LIBTARD SNOWFLAKE ENABLERS DOING SO.
but you’re RIGHT, it has gotten out of control and ONLY BLOOD SPILLED WILL EVER CORRECT IT.
and that also is COMING they just won’t STOP PUSHING, and WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THEM AND THEIR ENABLERS.
SO LET THE GAMES BEGIN because they have NO CLUE WHAT WILL BEFALL ALL OF THEM.
I have a feeling that you are correct. It is unfortunate that the people who are doing this do not care what they are causing. I think the “intellect” of these people is very questionable but they know full well what they are doing. They’re just too mentally disturbed to understand the consequences of their actions. Hard to believe people are that stupid.
GRAVE YARDS ARE FULL OF STUPID PEOPLE.
as i feel THEY are going to FIND OUT IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE.
their CHOICE.
Agree completely!
You got it David … I’d dump this church like a bad habit. How could these people be so totally stupid?
Yes the church elders, assuming they preach the love of God should have let these cry babies go.
Stop trying to satisfy all these cry babies and complainers. Preserve the history and learn how to say NO. It is history and you cannot erase history. Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it. (I forget who said that because I am so aggravated with these ignorant people.) They are not stupid just ignorant of our entire history and that is sad. We had Black people, Native Americans, etc. who fought in the War of 1812 and women. Learn about those who fought and do not judge them as you were not there at that point in time. Learn our history then have an opinion. Do not believe all you read, half what you see and reserve judgement on those who went before you were born.
Yes they are uninformed. Different time, different ways. I wonder if they know there were free Black men who also had slaves. I wonder if they know that Black Lives Matter was built on a lie. And funded by George Sorus who wants to destroy our country. Their ignorance has turned them into dupes! They had better be careful what they wish for. Because our freedoms, prosperity and sovereignty will not be back once it is lost!
You are correct that if you give up your freedom it will be gone forever. Teaching children the history of our country should be mandatory as it was up until the 1960’s. People cannot appreciate what you have if they do not know the history.
put these cry babies in the same line as the NFL cry babies, why don’t they feel honored to go to the same church as Lee, and Washington, if they sat in the same pew as them maybe some of their religious persona would rub off on them.
Hey, I have an idea, All you liberals move to California and run your own country.!!
We like ours and our great history! It’s worked for 240 years and you want to change it!! GREAT!!
Amen! Then the BIG one hits, CA breaks off from the rest of the intelligent continent and meanders to North Korea.
Ahhh … what a dream!
New Zealand might be a better choice. That’s where Justice Ruth B.Ginsburg wanted to go if Trump won…
Well she has not left nor intends to leave as well as dropping from the SC .
just remove the pew
This is very sad indeed! What is happening to our America?? God bless and save America!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Let he without sin cast the first stone. Find a sinless one among them to rip down the edifices that a grateful public erected to honor a person who had in fact saved their lives. That ought to hold of any action for enough years that they can conceive and deliver a nazarite who they can keep away from their kind for twenty-years
to avoid the occasion of sin. Religious leaders ready to persecute a dead true hero who helped us all. Hmm!
Wouldn’t you like to see the family tree of some of these people screaming about slavery? Why? I would be willing to bet if you went back to Africa and could check which tribes (that’s what they were called years ago) captured members of other tribes and sold them to black slave merchants some would find their fore fathers were not slaves but instead the chief that captured members of other tribes and sold them into slavery or were related to the slave merchants. Too bad they couldn’t read or write to keep log books with names and the tribe they were kidnapped from and sold to which black slave trader. Slave trade was wrong but “white folks didn’t start it’!
also remove their tax exemption
There will be no need for a tax exemption if all of the tithing members leave this “church” and go elsewhere for their spiritual guidance, like to a church that doesn’t cave in to these radical lunatics who think they can just go in and make demands and get “their way.”
Without Washington there would be no America. So tell the Liberals to suck it up. They want to protest all these things, but most of them would gladly visit the Roman coliseum or the pyramids. More slavery went on there than anywhere.
never had a problem until Obama now the lefties think they have the power to upset america, they have another think coming,sane people are waking up to this evil
can you say Happy Horse shit . I Can . do not like it don’t read it period . I do not like your attitude can I ban you ?
leslie jones, no offense, but I don’t think anyone knows what your post means. I may be wrong about that but I am not quite sure what your posts meant. Who were you addressing?
what I mean is if you do not like the plaques about our history Don’t read them . if they want things banned because they do not like them . why can’t I ask that they be banned as I do not like those who denigrate our history ?
Leslie Jones, thank you! I just didn’t understand what you were saying. Sometimes posts are difficult to determine what people mean, and I get what you meant now. I agree with you! Thank you!
Huh? Are you just talking to yourself?
Very very weak church leaders, next thing you know someone will be offended by the Cross of Jesus in the church or outside it and these so called leaders of the church will bow down to them. If their offended by the plaque let them remove their church membership and move to another church. Sounds like someone in the church is just trying to stir up some political crap because they are not getting their political racist way.
You’re right, Dennisinlexky……Next the Muslims in our country WILL start to demand that crosses be taken off of churches. THEY do NOT want to assimilate, they want to take over and these lunatics who are currently paving the road for such actions are doing a great job. This is going to backfire in a BIG WAY because of these people, such as the ones objecting to the George Washington plaque, Muslims will be next. They are offended by Christians and our churches. Doesn’t MATTER that they came here on their own……This is next folks and if we keep allowing what is happening NOW, such as in this church, it’s ONLY A MATTER OF TIME before the Muslims take over and they will if WE don’t start putting the brakes on this ridiculous behavior.
This is a foolish move! It makes me wonder if these “church people” are truly Christian! I am offended that these foolish people would remove a plaque from a pew where George Washington worshipped! If people feel unwelcome, soi be it! You cannot go back and change history, and history is important! This is but one more sign that this once great nation is imploding! So sad!
Clowns… what our founders gave us created the most wonderful society the world has ever known. CLOWNS
If it were not for General Washington and President Washington we would be singing “God Save the Queen” and not the Star Spangled Banner. What kind of leadership is this from the church leaders, bowing at the alter of PC because “some” people in the congregation might unsafe (from what, return of slavery?) or unwelcome (because GW worshipped there) 230+ years later? Let the snowflakes go to another church.
Removal of George Washington’s plaque is an affront to all true Americans. I wonder who complained – probably a few socialists…Tell the church to reread the history of the Revolutioany war, or visit the Masonic Memorial in Arlington to our first president……
Now, now … we DON’T want to offend anyone, do we? Don’t say that you have black tires on your car because that is racist to these idiots.
Enuf of this bullshit.
What a bunch of useful idiots. The father of our country and they can’t explain his place in history and context, but just remove? Shameful and stupid.
I think these members that complained should be asked to leave the church,because they are a$$ hokes and their is no place for a$$ holes in any church.How many years have the plaques been there? I think it’s time for the leaders every where to take charge and learn to say HELL NO we won’t take it dow,Sorry if you don’t like it go elsewhere.!!! All we have here are a bunch of pussies and don’t have the balls to stand up yo thrse bullies,Yes I SAID BULLIES<nothing less!!!
Unbelievable. It just goes on and on and on…….Too ridiculous to comment further.
Really … it nauseates you too, huh? I can’t even watch the national news anymore because of bullshit like this. I’m watching Pets.TV … cute dogs on there and NO bullshit!
Yep, Darren Rusty, I am sick of it and actually my husband won’t even watch the national news anymore and I do scan thru most of it, myself, because of the extreme bias of the left running these MSM outlets. I do like the Pets TV too and we watch it as well! 🙂
Go girl! It’s almost like being in a round room looking for a corner to crawl in … but we can find it!
Thanks, Darren Rusty! You might enjoy National Geographic Wild channel and also watch “Unlikely Animal Friends.” Great show, too! Like you say, much better than those garbage news anchors and reporters on the MSM!
Yeah … watch that too. But so many “marathons” and repeats kinda bores me. Anything besides Trump v Congress v Killary v Schumer v Pelosi v Waters is better!
We like a couple of the “old” sitcoms “King of Queens” and “Everybody Loves Raymond” to name a couple and we also like “House Hunters” and “House Hunters Intl” on HGTV and I really like “Dateline” “20/20” “48 Hours” and shows like that as well. Like you said, anything but the news these days.
Ahhh … it’s like I’m talking to myself in the mirror. DVR both of them almost daily … I’ve seen every episode of ELR about 20 times and love KOQ as well. They’re so much better than sitting here talking about politics!
Please don’t give up. That is the plan by George Sorus and the evil organizers. If we lose our sovereignty, freedoms and way of life, it will not be back!
Already dipped into that show and even DVR it from time to time. Great stuff (if you like that kinda stuff) … and I love animals, so I’m IN.
A great part of the ‘swamp’ in the Washington, D.C. area that includes adjacent Alexandria’s Episcopal “Christ Church”. Its highly intellectual congregation no doubt is full of Politically Correct devotees that have been brain-cleansed to contain nothing but guilt for allowing any vestigial remnant to exist in their midst that offends anyone. I suspect that many more of my 85 year old contemporaries have made it a mental note to not attend this church or give to the P.C. mission that has consumed those who do not realize what they are doing.
Simply on the notion of risk of allowing our nation’s Father to be discredited by slavery, a commonly practiced ownership of humans, throughout all of global history, but not always in ways not both understandable and forgivable, the leaders are taking an action that only proves their culpability in the very thing they want to avoid in hopes of saving themselves! To take the current action is to join with those that thrive on finding ways to make the minority they define into one so protected, that they are the only group not wearing a badge of guilt for being guilty of a new of any kind of favoritism. They surrender to a tiny minority within their generally defined idea that all slaves in American history had skins darker than those they define as being ‘white’- a skin color that is hard to find as it is the smallest minority! Far more Irish were so-owned than imported by men of all colors.
Well, I pray for these Zealots survival, but do believe that the historic aspects of their ancient church edifice should be preserved. Now, on the other hand, it will be impossible to replace the Washington pew, if the original is properly burned, tied to a stake in the Church’s Courtyard where weddings may have also been celebrated along with maybe burning of a witch or two.
Back in the sixties there was this phrase going about and it went like this, several thousand years ago in ancient Egypt Moses told his people “Pick up your shovel, load up your camel, mount your as* and follow me to the promised land.” Several thousand years later FDR said, “put down your shovel, sit on your as* and light up a camel, this is the promised land.” A few years later LBJ got elected and he took away your camel, taxed your shovel, kicked your as* and gave your promised land to the- (Oh my, what was that word they used? Anyway, put whatever fits there.)
Well, Geri … spill the beans … you can say ASS and you don’t have to do the as* thing. Ass is in the Bible for a reason. We have asses amongst us and we have to call them what they are … ASSes.
Good one!
You church leaders have no patriotism. You are ashamed of our first president. And you know nothing about history. You denigrate the Father of our country because he owned slaves? So did many others (slavery obviously is wrong). Washington saved our nation. The English were the ones who brought salves to this country. The first person to legally be declared a slave owner by the court was a man who resided in Virginia. Guess what? He was a black man. He later acquired more slaves and moved to Maryland starting another prosperous business. If I were a menber of your church I would never return.
Since just about all of our forefathers accepted the facts of living then, are we going to destroy every monument to our history? The whole idea is foolish and depicts a certain amount of ignorance. Will our White House be destroyed? Please, live with our history and be glad that we have made improvements!
After O was in there might be a good Idea as he gave it a poor image of the USA .
We are in a society who likes to cover up history … probably because they don’t understand it in the first place. Never taught it and don’t care otherwise.
I sincerely hope I am dead when these idiots rule the country. I hope I am with God and can look down and laugh and the stupidity I left behind.
I know what you mean.
Well it is a “ white” house.
That is a silly response.
Well what can I say. I guess I was feeling silly at the time.
Well goodness…ask me if I’m surprised. NOT. But what these ‘half baked christians’ as they call themselves do NOT understand, is that although Christ was not a slave owner, he still hung out with beggars, thieves and prostitutes. Gosh…think he had a reason for that?? All I can say is this church, of sorts, needs to quit preaching the Word of God, put down their bibles and abandon what would be considered a Holy Sanctuary. They have absolutely NO business there. Jesus Christ was NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT!!
Neither are the Democrats with their ACLU raising hell over nothing and giving the store away , our Tax Dollars .
You’re so very correct, that’s for sure. BTW, I’m retired, too. 🙂
Sorry but the last time that I commented on one of these stories the limp wristed play-church had me put into Face-Book prison for 30 days!!! I’ll only quote the WORD of GOD… 1 Tim 4:1-2; Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
2 Peter 3:3; Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
Jude 18; How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. AKJV 1611
We had proof of that for 8 years before Trump .Democrats have bin trying to destroy the Church for decades with hate .
Heck, if this was MY church, when this occurred, it would no longer be “MY” church. I would simply leave. I hope all of its parishioners leave and all that is left are the complainers who want their way no matter what. Let them have it and the pastor too. He can preach to the people who have such a problem with George Washington’s plaque being on the pew where he worshipped. I would be outta there and I hope the rest of those like me will also leave.
Thousands of Martin Luther King Jr streets and other crap offend me. How about removing them????
Oh thats right, I’m white and its tough crap if you are offended.
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Why do streets named after Dr. Martin Luther King Jr offend you? He was a Christian, he preached the word of Christ . . . Why shilly shally around? Be honest, just speak up and say that honoring MLK offends you because he was instrumental in helping African Americans to achieve some semblance of equality in a nation that preached “liberty and justice for all” but practiced Jim Crow? And you were happier then?
I’m offended to hear so many many so-called Christians here openly espousing white supremacy. That’s a VERY un-Christian point of view. And whether or not it makes sense for this church to remove a plaque honoring George Washington isn’t even central to your conversation (and I don’t happen to agree with what the church is planning to do). It’s just like this incident gave you an opportunity to let out your vilest feelings! And no one commenting even sees a difference, possibly, between this plaque in a church, and the many statues honoring Confederate generals which were erected long after the Civil War, and only to intimidate black citizens.
As my grandmother used to tell me when I was running off at the mouth, “You should just listen to yourself for a minute . . . . and you wouldn’t like what you are hearing”
A viewpoint the church leaders apparently missed is that the type people who may be offended by such things are the very ones who should be taught about Christ, not appeased (it was Christ Church, wasn’t it?) and brotherly love to overcome such hatred and sensitivities. (I Corinthians 13:4 . . .love is patient, love is kind, … not self-seeking, etc.)
Commie “Christians” must hang. It’s NOT about “comfort”, it’s about TRUTH.
These church leaders in Virginia are the worse kind of Christian hypocrites…they preach the bible of Jesus Christ then piss on every page. “Forgiveness”? What kind of Christian crap have they learned? We are all sinners and the founders of our nation lived in a time when most politicians had slaves…but notice how these co-called Christians never mention that 660,000 WHITE MEN gave their lives in the Civil War fighting against slavery. But these religious morons pretend that they read and believe in the Christian teachings of Christ but defecate on the root of these teachings. Racists black morons don’t have a mother, grandmother, great grandmother or great, greatgrandmother who were slaves. If we gave each and everyone of them a million dollars in reparations they would find another reason to call something racists, this hideous crap is in a cesspool without a bottom. My grandparents were slaves of the Ottoman Turk Muslims in the Balkans and the Serbian people were slaves to these Muslims for 410 years, twice what American black slaves endured, yet not once in my 78 years did I demand that I receive reparations in spite of the fact that 17 of my relatives were burned to death in their Christian Serbian church in Vojnic, Croatia in 1941 by religious fanatics and that the last 5 relatives of my name were too old and too sick to flee the ethnic cleansing of 230,000 Serbians from Croatia in 1995…the Red Cross notified me 30 days later they were found with their throats slit. So stop pissing on my leg and convincing me its raining with your holier then thou crap! ..I will match the racism and war crimes against my family IN MY LIFETIME with any of these bigoted BLACK hypocrites. It’s time the Church of Christ in Virginia start acting like Christians and start practicing the faith of Christ…George Washington and all! If we removed every trace of slavery in this country, every statue, every monument then where does this lead… Book burning and Politically Correct pronouns? And still that would not be enough for these hypocrites…
Only one of the many reasons I don’t go to church. Hypocrites!
JUst a bunch of liberal left winger morons who have NO IDEA of what Christ was preaching. If those sad sacks get offended by a plaque memorializing one the founders of this country then they are NOT CHRISTIANS.
Probably sent by the Satan EX we had for 8 years .
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What in the world does removing the plaq
They don’t need to remove anything from that church, let the people that have the problem remove they’re self’s from the church that offends them, those plaques are part of American History the people with the problem are not.
Political correctness in a church is so cowardly. Also proves the church leadership is unable to embrace its past as a strength…
It is called Blackmail the preacher !!
Week I have a solution. Why don’t I load up in the truck and go to Virginia and remove some teeth from these little cry babies one at a time with a pair of pliers. I think that would shut their dumb assed mouths for a while. They are going to complain as long as the media prints this BS. Idiots just need to be ignored and they will be distracted by something else and go away.
Church leaders should start paying Taxes instead of living off the fat of the land!!
@Bob C
Whether religious institutions should start paying taxes is an entirely different question. Whether removing a plaque honoring George Washington because he was a slave owner is the same as wanting to remove the statues of Confederate officers (most of which where not erected until long after the Civil War, and then placed prominently in order to intimidate black citizens) is a question this group of commenters might start asking, instead of running off at the mouth about liberals and Hillary Clinton and whether Obama is a
Muslm (OMG — can people so stupid/gullible they believe that really be eligible to vote?!)
Get a life people! If all Americans are equal, no matter their race or creed (cf — US CONSTITUTION) the
equality of black and yellow and brown people doesn’t make white people LESS equal.
Christ Church Episcopal is part of a denomination that has gone so far off the deep end as to have no resemblance to what the Episcopal Church once was. They once valued the history not only of their denomination, but of the Church of most of our Founding Fathers, and especially George Washington. Taking down these plaques is no way to remind us of his memory and his contribution to his country.
This is truly ridiculous! I really resent anybody putting down an otherwise great man for something that was typical of his era. Sure, he should get credit if he fought to change it, & blame if he fought against more widely shared rights, but I’m pretty sure Washington did neither, so leave him alone!
As a Mexican women born here and PROUD OF IT……I find this to be so DISGUSTING…… MAGA
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If you were born here, then you’re an American woman! And what do you find so “disgusting” — the conversation here, or the actions of the church?
Who said they have or ever had a spine?
are they sure GOD would want them in his house with that kind of attitude? How do they know that the pew hey are sitting in is for privileged white supremacists? What a bunch of hypocrites! That is one racist curch I would never set foot in!
All of this lunacy is going to lead to a massive civil war, in which fed up Whites will decimate the black population. I hope this war comes very soon, White people have been pushed to the limit and it’s way past time to take our nation back!
Another fake christian church destined for hell.
@Kerry Mercer
Congratulations for at least being honest in your comment. This repugnant conversation, filled with vulgarisms and ignorance has nothing to do with Republican, Democrat, liberal, conservative. Nor does it have anything really to do with the difficult question of how to deal with plaques, statues, buildings and other historical images honoring people and moments in our past that we perhaps should not honor. No, this is not an honest conversation — it is a rant about racism and people who don’t think the same way you all do.
So at least you, Kerry Mercer, are honest enough to speak your mind: you think white people own this nation, and “it’s way past time to take our nation back!” If that isn’t racism, I don’t know what is. When you are busy taking “your” nation back, what are your plans for all the American citizens who are not white — or Christian? Just asking . . .
Take it back from whom? White men stole this continent from the indigenous people who lived here — does that never bother you at all? And if white people are going to take back their country, who are the people they are going to wrench it away from? Will it matter if the non-white people are Christians? Will it matter if they are
honest, law-abiding people who are productive — maybe even creative and brilliant, the same people who created your iPhones and your TVs and all the conveniences you like?
And from the way most of the comments here go, your deep sense of yourselves as Christians has little or nothing to do with anything that Jesus preached.
You should all just read these comments back to yourselves and listen to how they sound. Christian? American? Not so much . . . .
Christ Church seems to be a perfect example of the stupid, neither hot nor cold, Church of Laodicea –the church Christ says He hates and will spew out of His mouth as it makes Him sick. There will be a heavy price to pay for their disloyalty to His former saints, Washington and Lee–founding fathers of this God ordained and formerly great country now being destroyed by the Devil and his agents who have infiltrated that particular church. Stand back and watch what God might do to them. Earthquake?, flood?, fire?. tornado?, hurricane?, lightening strike? whatever!
The leaders in Christ church, Alexandria, VA are as ignorant as those who are “offended.” George Washington put his life on the line to secure a future for every one of us. If he had not been the General that he was, America might not exist today. If he had any idea of just how low these non-achievers are, who have never done anything of value for anyone else, but are good at putting people of substance down, I am sure he would have been taken back. These “offended” ones need to get an education…their ignorance is appalling.
Can you imagine what it would be like if our government were made up of all black members these days. The USA would be one giant GHETTO people. Enough of this bullshit. White people have rights also!
This is our History , Why so little people have some much crap to say. I bet they dont read or even know the American History. I read somewhere now they want to add THE SOB MUSLIM OBAMA TO THE NATIONAL RUSHMORE ,ARE THEY OUT OF THEIR MINDS . THIS SOB WANTED TO DESTROY THIS COUNTRY AND THEY WANT TO HONOR HIM????? Who are these FOOLS. I am getting to the end of my wits .They diclared or will declare OBAMA day somewhere where in Chicago. How stupid are the American people getting. They are Honoring him which changing school names to OBAMA. Has this country become THE COUNTRY OF MORRONS??? The more I read about him the sicker I get ,he should be going to JAIL not HONORD. He gave $400,000,000 away to Eron the American hate country and now that money is used to SLAUGHTER OUR PEOPLE IN UNIFORM who are fighting FOR OUR FREEDOMS This is SICK !!!!
Plaques and statues can be removed, to the detriment of our nation’s history becoming incomplete. But nothing…NOTHING…can remove hatred, bigotry, prejudice in the human heart. Why does history need to be altered when history is supposed to teach the truth? i.e., what took place in our nation’s past? History needs to be regarded as a teacher, and ALL of history needs to be taught, whether good or bad, right or wrong. That is the only way that the younger generations can learn not to repeat the wrongs of their forefathers, and also not be too harsh in their judgements of those who created it; they need to remember that those history-makers lived in a different era and time when the culture and mores of that time differed from today. I cannot understand how people can still harbor hate and unforgiveness over what took place generations ago, esp. since these people weren’t even alive then. An injustice had been done to my people, Japanese-Americans, who were imprisoned in internment camps during WWII when Japan attacked the U.S. at Pearl Harbor. They were treated unjustly and with suspicion, many lost their homes, jobs and farm lands which were illegally taken from them, but most decided to accept their fate and attributed the situation to wartime frenzy and fear. During such times, govt. leaders need to make snap decisions which are not always right. But it was this very experience that gave Japanese-Americans the resolve to prove their loyalty to the country they loved, and they were determined to use this experience as a foundation for building a better and successful life after the war. You see, negative experiences can either make you or break you….it’s YOUR choice. Nothing is gained by continuing to harbor resentment. America has the potential to once again become the great leader of the world, but there are evil forces in our country which seek to stop it from happening.
You fucking idiot, cowardly, history destroying assholes!!!!
If G W offends you, leave that church and go somewhere else.
Next they’ll be wanting to tear down the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Monument, don’t care what color these scumbags are that are complaining it’s time for them to leave if American History offends them. If their own people didn’t round them up and bring them here and sell them there wouldn’t have been any slavery here. Also these scumbags complaining they are still rounding up people in Africa and selling them into SLAVERY, how about going to Africa and fighting to free these people where there really is still slavery.
What has happen to our country? To the churches I say there is a reason why some people do not attend church the church is not suppose to be about politic . So please tell me why do you go to church if not to praise the Lord not and not to have politic rule your church . I hope people will stop going to that curch
This is why our family have left the Episcopal Church. Anyone who is “offended” by that which honours ANY of the great men who handed us this system of government which, in time, has resulted in the greatest liberty ever granted to a nation, should be shown the door. Tragically, the Episcopal Church has become another tool of the leftist radicals. Our local church is now encouraging and supporting illegal immigration, same as the Catholic Church, and embracing all forms of Marxist PC. I used to pray the church could remain united, now I pray it will divide so there will at least be SOME remnant of tradition and common sense left.
Okay so let me get this straight. You church leaders of the Christ Church of Alexandria, Virginia removed the George Washington plaques because there were some parish members who were offended by them. So what are you church leaders going to do if you have, let’s say, some Muslim people come to your church and they tell you right to your face, “Hummmm, you know, we are greatly offended by that bloody man on the cross you have hanging on your wall there. We want you to remove it now. As a matter of fact, we do not like your Bible either. It teaches hatred and bigotry towards our people. We want you to get rid of them as well.”
So with your asinine way of thinking, you will get rid of that cross with Jesus hanging on it and you will get rid of all the Bibles in your pews because it offends this class of certain individuals.
You people are pathetic and if I was a member of your church, I would be totally ashamed of you right now. I probably would decide to go to a different religion, one who cherishes, honors and praises God and his son Jesus Christ. But not just them. This new church I would be looking for would also praise our forefathers and leaders for the many great things and accomplishments they have done for our country.
You church leaders teach repentance to your flock on a daily basis. Well, I can tell you one thing right here and now. It is you that need a lot of repentance right now and not your flock. You need to practice what you preach.
Did our societal rot begin with Obama too?
Removal of all the monuments is beginning to remind me of ISIS destroying the Buddha statues in Afghanistan. The other parallel would be Orwell’s novel 1984.
I reckon they will remove all the statues of Christ and Mother Mary as they will offend the muslims.
This is a crock of shit and the church is knee deep in this shit as a matter of fact it leaders are all the way in up to their brown eyes. Stupid is one way of saying this.
As a Catholic this church offends me and my religion are they going to destroy the damn building now.
Or am I an undesirable.
Frank Bowers, FIC; 100% DAV-US Army 1955-63; Class of 11/37; Austin, TX
I was just in this church for the very first time in September, 2017 after completing a three day conference on George Washington and his contributions to the beginnings of our great Republic. I believe he would be saddened, as all our Founders, to see what has become of the great Republic they fought for with blood, sweat, and tears. True we are not a perfect nation and we are allowed to voice our opposition to the winds of change. But to react to a one-sided view so strongly rooted in false history is a travesty to ALL AMERICANS. Who protects the other voices that know and study history and can see where we have wronged and where we have been a beacon of light and hope for the world. To destroy one side will surely leave us listing to either the left or right and the balance the world has viewed the US for all these years may be lost forever. History and ALL its falters must be studied and learned from not hidden in a closet like an old coat. We are a doomed nation if we fail to learn from our past.
Hell why stop there, tear down all of the monuments on the mall in D.C. Washington, Jefferson slave owners, Lincoln freed the slaves but imprisoned the Native Americans.
Why don’t you retards just go back to Africa
Those church members must think they are more holy than God. I’m sure if their past personal histories were revealed they would all be ex-comunicated or shunned or whatever they do to such amoral people.
Excuses – Excuses – Excuses…..Do you really think people that DUMB….
FFFF NJ and FFFF Menendez ——- DC is nothing but Lawyers – Judges and trash.
&^ yo and I am seeing the total destruction of my AMerica……all of the good men and women whom gave all to preserve this mess????? Makes me wonder what the hgell were these “Good Christians”
Some 200 years ago, some of the white people (North and South) sat on their porches and watched the people of color do the work that needed to be done so the whites could live the life they wanted.
If the people of color didn’t produce enough to keep the whites happy, the whites complained about it.
In those days, it was called slavery.
Today, 200 years later, a lot of the people of color (North, South, East, and West) sit on their porches and watch the White people work to pay the taxes that are necessary for the people of color to live the life they want.. If their welfare check, subsidized housing, food stamps, cell phones, and other benefits are not enough to keep them happy, the people of color complain about it.
It would appear to me that the only thing that has changed in the last 200 years is the color of the slaves.
That was one of best analogies I have ever read.
Apparently these same people that are so opposed to Washington and Lee have never considered that these slaves that were owned by them were slaves in Africa before they were brought here. Possibly being slaves here was better than where they came from. I don’t know, since I wasn’t there but there are a lot of writings about slavery still upheld in that part of the world even today. Why aren’t these same people not bent out of shape for those slaves. Could it be that they might even consider owning people if they were there?
Communists ARE “unwelcome” in my country.
I suspect the complainants would be black, so the easy solution is to erase history and end up with a fairy tale marriage,seems like minorities are favored over the mass. We have the same problem in Canada
The very same people who scoffed at Trump when he rhetorically asked “…who’s next, George Washington…?” when the confederate memorial attacks began are rejoicing at this, unaware that every time they open their mouths, they set a new worl record for hypocrisy.
It is incomprehensible that on this day and age, some people will complain about anything, with the only retort that “x offends them” (the x stands for anything that the supposed offendee considers to be offensive at a particular time and place).
We, as religious people should read the Bible, especially the synoptic gospels and learn from them. We should welcome those who enter the church and wishes to participate in it, if there is one that finds offense, we should escort them to the door in a friendly manner. Why? because that person is not ready to accept the teachings of the church, he or she should be encouraged to attend a Bible class.
Thanks Justin you beat me to it !!! it seams to me the head of this church is the problem . It’s not that hard to give a history lesion from the Bible about tossing the first stone The forgiveness one would be a great sermon to have for something that happen over 150 years ago and maybe bring in some of the every day things that these people made possible for them to be here today. These United States are not perfect but remember we are young and become the strongest country in the world in lest then 200 years we got rid of slavery but the countries we learned it from still has it and had it for 1000’s of years these are your people from your roots . I Guest What I’m Saying Is It All Comes Down To Education From Church/ School And Home
How stupid can we be? Taking down statues or signs does not change America’s history. It is what it is or was. Political correctness does not change God’s word. We can recognize there was sin in some things done years ago and change what we can do today. Trying to change our history to get money is wrong! Preach about sin not money.
When is everything Lincoln being removed or demolished, he was a slave owner. What about removing MLK jr. monuments he didn’t approve of gays.
I looked up the homepage of Christ Church in Alexandria, VA. It is an Episcopal church and all the clergy there are currently female. The Episcopal Church has been rapidly declining in membership during the past five to ten years in particular. It has adopted a severe Leftist agenda and identity political viewpoint. Parishioners with traditional marriage and other standard values are no longer welcome in it.
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Why don’t just remove every thing even the people that way there’s no one to be offended. What a bunch of jerks.
More revised history !!!
Decisions made from ignorance! Different time, different values. Even free black men owned slaves then. And slavery still exists in many other countries today, not America. We are progressing.
And George Sorus is winning when our people are divided. The American people had better pull together if they care about our sovereignty. Because we will not have our freedoms and way of life if the globalists have their way. Check out Venezuela!
Different time, different ways. Decisions to remove plaques, statues, and artifacts are being made from ignorance! Even free black men had slaves at that time. And George Washington helped found that church and create our great nation. Our history and legacy should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.
I am proud that we have, and still are, progressing. And we can rejoice in our good fortune to live in the land of the free and the brave. Slavery and lack of freedoms are still the norm in many places across the globe, but not here.
We had better pull together to protect our sovereignty and way of life if we want to preserve our privileges. God Bless America!
Another fake christian church destined for hell.
This is ridiculous why don’t you find something to complain about that makes sense.
“Suffer the little children to come into me, as long as they are politically correct” ( I forget the chapter and verse).
So the church leaders have bent over forwards and let the liberals take their collective buttocks and spread them wide. This is total PC bullcrap.
BULLSHIT, THOSE WHO DON’T REMEMBER THE PAST WILL REPEAT IT !!!!!! THIS IS ANOTHER STEP IN DESTROYING OUR HISTORY AND THESE IDIOTS ARE FALLING FOR IT, GIVE THESE COMMIE BASTARDS ANOTHER PIECE AND THEY WANT ANOTHER AND ANOTHER AND ANOTHER UNTIL WE ARE GONE !!! WAKE UP AMERICA TELL THESE IDIOTS IF THEY DON’T LIKE AMERICA AND WHAT IT STANDS FOR LEAVE, THESE PEOPLE ARE NO BETTER THAN THE FKING MUSLIMS THAT MOVE IN AND START CHANGING OUR SOCIETY, FOOD, OUR LAWS AND WAY OF LIFE INSTEAD OF BECOMING AN AMERICAN THEY WANT US TO BECOME MUSLIMS OR DIE !!! OBAMINATION WAS ALLOWED BY THE KORAN TO LIE TO THE INFIDELS AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE DID FOR 8 YEARS AND HE IS STILL DOING IT AND LOOK AT HOW MANY MORONS THAT ARE STILL FOLLOWING THE ILLEGAL NOT BLACK HALF BREED SUNNI MUSLIM TERRORIST PATHOLOGICAL LIAR TRAITOR AND HITTLERY ROD UP HER LYING ASS CLINTON THE RUSSIAN ESPIONAGE AGENT !!!! VIETNAM VET
does that mean people of color should ignore their African heritage because they sold their ancestors into history..NO..history is history, we learn from it…we improve from it…we don’t try to erase the lessons we learned
WHO ARE THESE PERSONS THAT WANT THIS REMOVED WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW AND TO THE CHURCH MEMBERS SHAME ON YOU FOR DOING THIS
Where is the outrage? Stop this foolishness. Let them go to another Church! History is history.
How typical of the Episcopal Church these days. And to think that Generals Washington and Lee wouldn’t be welcome to sit in their own parish church now!
SEEM TO ME THAT CHURCH MEMBERS COULD CARE LESS ABOUT RELIGION AND HISTORY AND MORE ABOUT SOROS AND OBAMA WHO I WILL ARE BEHIND THIS. CHURCH MEMBER ARE ALL DEMOCRATS
The insanity of appeasing a few by offending many defies logic. If I attended this church, removing the plaques would offend me and I would find a more common sense, love of God church!!!
So now the Episcopal Church rejects God for Political Correctness.
looks like time to close the doors on this socalled (church) God bless all morons.
I wonder if those who decided to leave were Christians or maybe more accurately stated “cultural Christians”. In any case, a social ‘gospel’ can never replace the Gospel. Do you think there will be concern for political correctness in Hell? Just sayin.
[Because Jesus taught that we should not judge…period!] Evidently you are not reading the King James Bible…
Removing the plaque will make others like me feel unwelcome and make sure I will never come to your church! If you remove everything that offends someone you will have nothing but an empty building!
Don’t forget “the stone of stumbling and the rock of offense.” What do we do about the verse that says, “Be in submission to every ordinance of man.” (Except, of course, those with which we disagree). If freedom were defined as the right to never have to do anything that one does not want to, slavery is the opposite of that, always doing what someone else wants us to, or allows us to. Rejecting those who relegated our ancestors to the garbage heap of history will know no boundaries regarding race, creed, religion, color, ethnicity or national origin. Does this mean that America is the garbage heap of history? The fact that “they keep coming to America” indicates that the “teeming refuse of some distant shore” has a chance to be something other than “teeming refuse.” Choose not to be “teeming refuse.” Your choice won’t depend on George Washington’s history in America.
Total chicken shits….screw them and their church…..their statues should be removed……….apparently the church leaders are NOT church leaders……..they have their collective heads way up their asses……….they want to remove items, start with their bullshit religious items which comes from an invisible man in the sky……and invisible images from so many years ago……I am not racist, don’t get me wrong, this goes for Jewish, muslim, catholic, every house of worship……remove one, remove them all!
A few parishioners were upset, so they demolish the history of their church, no big deal!
If I were a member of this parish, I would feel unsafe and unwelcome if the plaque acknowledging that the father of this country worshipped there were removed. I would feel a special sanctity had been removed. As to General Lee, there is a gracious story of reconciliation in a Richmond church involving Lee, a black man and a communion rail. But, in this day and age it seems there is no contrition or absolution for sin.
All people need Jesus Christ. It sounds like many parishioners aren’t seeing that truth. No plaque should or does change that. History is what it is and nothing can change that. These uneducated souls are where the problem lies and they are the ones needing help out of their churches as trouble makers. The days of slavery are over in America and these fake people claiming their feelings are hurt are just part of the problem trying destroy America. Churches and others need to pray for healing for these evil hearts creating havoc.
These so called Christians, I presume they are claiming they are, need to go to a good library where there are history books published before 1950, and read a non-liberal, more factual, History of this Country, and maybe even their church. If they know what and who George Washington was, and what he did, and why Americans value him, they may appreciate his pew more. You must have a book written before 1950 because the liberals have been re-writing History Books to provide their liberal dialog and destroy America from within. Do a book comparison and I think you will see the difference real quick.
They want all history revised to suit what they think it should be !!!
these church leaders are hipocricts. why don’t they remove jesus Christ picture. idiots.
How about Father Sends these maggots to Gitmo for execution ?
You cannot erase HISTORY. But you can LEARN from HISTORY. Of course to do that you must FIRST be INTELLIGENT and have a BRAIN.
Is that what went wrong in congress , loss of brain after a few years in WDC ???
Some visitors and guests chose not to return because of the plaques so let them leave. They are bigots and have no knowledge of our history. However, since they are removing the plaques to satisfy a few bigots……..the rest of the regular attendees should go to another church because they are offended and stay away until the plaques are remounted !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It wouldn’t take more than two Sundays.
Two Sundays with a empty collection plates and a note to replace the plaques would work , but then the ACLU would step in with some BS action .
They are poop that belongs in the septic system , anything worse will be erased .
What are these chicken churches going to cower to a bunch of little punks. I have absolutely no use for there false religion’s.
Leave it alone. It’s been there longer then any of those low life ass holes have been alive! if they don’t like it don’t look at it, Or better yet go to another CHURCH. GET SOME GUTS AND TELL THEM NO.
( IF ) the Demo-Commies ever get back in power, ALL our Religious and Heritage statues, Plaques, etc. will be removed. We will see only pictures of those in power, think about our museums, art, theaters that will be shut down except those approved by the New Socialist Government. Go ahead, ask some of the old people who escaped Communism in Russia, Ukraine, Poland, lithuania, etc. I have, i worked in a steel mill for 15 years, I got to know a lot about the Bolshevics and how the Communists took peoples homes, or HAD to allow strangers to move into your house. Go ahead, talk to some of those people. If you think Socialism is better, guess again, the goal of Socialists is Communism.
I would say this is not a Christian church or they would not give in to Political corrective Liberals they are just operating as a church to collect tax free money
Another example that this will never again be a free country until all Liberal Political Correct Anti Americans are Dead
Allowing a few people to make you feel asamed of your heritage is likened to 2 red coats destroying the entire American army it actually astonish me that you would allow this to happen I would would be so honored to to just see these plaques these are people that are trying to destroy this country and you are going to let them shame on you if you do
Stupidity is running rampart in the USA..Why not get rid of the representations of Christ. He’s bound to have offended someone. Ridiculous
What has become of our society? What has become of our heritage? Are we so wrapped up in the “self” that all must comply with “my needs.” If so, I am fed up with too much traffic and everyone must get off of the road because “I” am using it. I do not like crowded restaurants, so “get out” when “I” come in.
What happened to compromising with the rights and feelings of all, not just the self? Are we so ignorant and calloused to think that the world must change to the demands of “ourselves”? If so, than “we” will be sadly disappointed.
Grow up, people!! Accept what was and the good deeds that have been done. Honor those men for their good deeds, not their bad deeds// What has occurred cannot be changed. The good can be shamed in the name of the bad and that is what this amounts to in my opinion. It is “INTOLERANCE” and “EGOISM” carried to the extreme. Grow up! It will never all be your way..
What is the racial makeup of these perishers that attend this Church it makes a difference on why they want the monuments removed or left in memory of these great leaders.
Another dead church with no Christians in charge.
The church leaders are COWARDS. Stop bowing down to Democratic PC. Tell anyone who doesn’t like the plaque giving honor to our 1st President should go to another church. George Washington attended this church for close to 20 years. If they don’t like the plaque, how can they like the church.
That’s no longer a Christian church, more of a social club! They should be ashamed of what their doing . Evil has taken up residence there !
GREAT ! NOW THE CHURCHES HAVE GONE TO HELL ! ILL NEVER STEP FOOT IN ONE AGAIN UNLESS THEY DESIDE TO BE AMERICANS
Maybe God and Mother Nature are offended by that church’s presence and willfully will make it disappear? Who knows?
Any church that gives into some church goers because they feel offended by a harmless placque certainly cannot preach about God’s word and be convincing. Neither can those church goers demand that anything be removed – just because they deem it to be offending. What a crock of bat guano.
Those supposed church goers are at the wrong church. Try the one down the road, out in the woods that sacrifices live prey in their services. It’s a Satanic church and the one those egocentric fools really should attend. They simply don’t have the loving heart of a Christian — satanic, absolutely!
They feel “unsafe”!? What are they afraid of? This PC crap is destroying our country!
Give These Ignorant Fools Time And They Will Deny Jesus Due To His Involvement With Jews And Israel. Maybe Even Remove The Cross Because It Offends Muslim Terrorist.
They may call themselves Christ Church but I doubt he even visits there. At best they are luke warm and God will spew them out!
Well ,The So Called Leaders Of This Church…..Are No Doubt DUMB Orats’! You Cannot Erase History..To Pander To The Feelings Of The Minorities Or The ‘So-Called’ Oppressed In America. The History Is There…..It cannot Be Altered To Make ‘Feel-good’ For The Emotionally Unstable.
Oh boy we wouldent want to make anyone FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE !! REDICULOUS ! Typical LIBERAL slogan !
The bottom line is you left wingnut libtards will never get me to see anything you’re way. You will never convert me into a Muslim either. Richard that was not directed at you.
YOU CANT CHANGE HISTORY BUT YOU CAN LEARN FROM IT, LEAVE ALL OUR AMERICAN MONUMENTS ALONE !!!!!!!!!! IF YOU DONT LIKE IT GET OUT OF OUR BELOVED AMERICA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ridiculous. It won’t change history. Fear mongers begone
What if an atheist visited the church with the thought of converting to the Christian religion and a picture of Jesus offended the atheist and he would vow to never come back until the image of Jesus was removed? This church would have to remove the picture of Jesus or miss the chance to convert this person which is what they’re all about. Just being the devils advocate!
I agree with the above. Something just came to me is that Jesus offend people to, but that did not stop him . We can not change history, therefore people need to just get over it. The Church or even Gov. can not control the pass When we start giving in to these stupid request, and offended people we are just opening the door to other things that offend people. The cross, pictures of Christ, angels. Will not be long until people start to complaining that someone has on a necklace that has a cross on it, or earrings and they can not wear it because it offends some one. People complain about the most stupid things. What they really need to do is pay attention to what really going on. I am offended by guys and women, mostly black that I have observed, runny around in public with their pants down around their knees, showing off their underwear. But I see nothing is been said about that. I am offended with every city having MLK street, I am offended by MLK statues. No not really, but just a example of how foolish. this whole thing is. I am offend when everytime i go shopping, some child or baby is screaming and crying and the parents totally do not care that it may be brothering others, but that does not stop them from staying in the store and keep on shopping with the child screaming. And I either deal with it or leave. Their are a lot of things that offend me but that’s life and most of it is history.
It would be an honor to set in the same ones that George Washington and his family sat in. What is wrong with all the crazy people to day?
If it wasn’t for George Washington and men like him we would be under British law. You nitwits out there who want to destroy statues and history need to grow a brain and understand that you live in a free country because of men like George Washington.
If they don’t feel safe they are welcome to just leave! These freaks who want to rewrite our history need to find a new Country! I like it just the way it is! I am offended by Obama, that is why I don’t go to his church!
More political correctness from Democrats. Did you know, Democrats apposed all of the legislation, that would put an end to slavery. Democrats have been destroying history, and re-writing history textbooks. The facts can be found: The National Archives
Why don’t the people of these [ religious leaders ] ban them!!!
why don’t they just move to some other country where they do not have to deal with anything American or our history again. The Middle East or Africa would suit these ungrateful PITA’s a lot better then America.
Visitors and guests. More like activists and probably undercover satanists. Christians really can be far too gullible and they know it.
why worry about all that
we need to worry about
the government and the end
of time
This is a case of insecure weak people that can’t live in today’s world, GW is termed the father of our country what he did & all the others was legal & not looked down on.
OH HOW I AGREE WITH THE ARTICLE BEFORE, for a church to take down our beloved history, this just told me THEY ARE OF THE SYNAGOGUE CHURCH OF SATAN,NOT THE TRUE CHURCH OF GOD IF THEY ARE OFFENDED OF WASHINGTON AND ROBERT E LEE then they are offended of the true teachings OF GOD, THEY ARE OFFENDED THEN OF JESUS CHRIST https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fccf9c211669f1356e98f582b0558b6cca24a80d393ca2804116ccca49ea7d55.jpg
You are right, God will always prevail against these phony religions, his wrath will come down on them.
It works like this; You PROTECT our Heritage, our History so people can better understand how we got to where we are today. Got it?
Well said.
Well then, let’s take down Martin Luther Kings statue while were at it.
Can you imagine how those morons would react to that. Hahahahaha.
No one’s plague should be exhibited in any Christian church.
Sure dont want to be part of that church Sound like one that would preach for the devil
America (U.S.) continues down the path of nonsensical BS everyday. Reading this crap about removing the plaques in the Church in Virginia makes me want to throw up. How do these plaques make people feel uncomfortable…….BS. How many people really believe that Jesus is offended by these plaques? There are so many more important problems in this world( particularly here in the states) that I can’t truly understand how this kind of crap makes it into the news. It certainly isn’t about national security, or even a human interest story. It is just someone trying to get their 5 minutes of fame and a bunch of cry babies wanting their way. Shut Up!!!!!
Let’s get back to the old days and give these little brats a good spanking.
This just proves if they had a mom and DAD in the home growing up, we wouldn’t be going through so much of this foolishness. The reaction of taking down the MLK statue is like our reaction to the knee takers.
I commented on this before, this is so stupid. A socialist attack attacking our heritage.
Put your parishioners out of the church makes more sense
Are these people for real? George Washington is regarded as the Father of our Country why now after 240 years do they want to remove something as important as that from their church?? People are going nuts in this country by getting rid of our history. It has to stop. Philadelphia is the Brith Place of our country I am sure that all the founding fathers that had farms or big home has slaves, that was then we can only learn from our past not to rip it down. Next people will want to dig up the bodies of slave owners?? This has to stop as it is getting real old fast. I would rather the leaders of this church be removed rather then the palque, that is more important then any of these worthless clowns.
I say Remove the Church !!!
You have to be very sensitive to be uncomfortable with something that happened 100s of years ago.Christ people are pathetic
Tell that to Jesus when you leave this planet. None of our business what you do or think.
Religion – made up drivel for the ignorant who can’t entertain themselves.
MAYBE THESE CHURCHES SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN IF THEY DONT LIKE GW.