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America Agrees With Trump: “Sad” to See Statues Come Down
Posted On 22 Aug 2017
According to a new poll from Rasmussen Reports, the majority of registered voters agree with President Donald Trump’s statement that it is “sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments.” A full 50% of voters agree with that sentiment while only 37% disagree. Another 12% – the perpetually confused – don’t know what to think about it.
The poll comes as the race to tear down the statues has reached a fever pitch. Democrats have apparently decided they finally have a winning issue on their hands, and they are jumping feet first into this divisive (and, truth be told, utterly meaningless) topic. Yes, let’s tear ’em all down! That’ll solve the problems facing the black community! That’ll put an end to police brutality! That’ll finally lift the black community out of poverty!
Democrats: If there’s something we can do that won’t actually do anything, we’re all for it.
Speaking of the black community, the survey is particularly instructive. A full 43% of black Americans think that removing these Confederate monuments will only WORSEN race relations in this country! So once again we have a situation where the left is trying to help people who are telling them, “Yeah…could you not?” Of course, they’ll still vote for the next Democrat, won’t they?
But most black Americans, white Americans, and minorities of all stripes recognize this movement for what it is: An attempt by an extremist fringe of the left to change what it fundamentally means to be the United States. These leftists – Antifa, extreme feminists, academic liberals – all come together around one basic principle: That the U.S. was founded in evil, developed in evil, and continues to exist in a state of evil. The Confederacy was not an aberration to them. Slavery was not a single dark stain on an otherwise good nation. To them, these are the symbols of a nation that was born in a cauldron of terror – a nation that is to this day a symbol of fascism and white supremacy.
Forget about George Washington and Thomas Jefferson being “next” on the list. Those memorials are the least of our problems. These extremists – oh, and they are growing more and more comfortable in the mainstream with every passing day – want to take aim at the Constitution. The American flag. The LAW. They want to tear down this country and remake it in their anarchic, socialist image, and they are willing to use every means available – up to and including violence – to see their goals through to conclusion. They ARE the new Confederacy, and they want civil war so bad they can taste it.
No wonder that they want us to collectively forget the first one.
Please don’t smear the former Confederacy by associating these animals with its name. There was valor in the South, something these criminals certainly don’t know anything about.
The Democrats are the Confederates of old. The Confederates killed Lincoln and wanted slavery. Still do. So what is smearing their name – they have smeared their own name by their beliefs and actions against humanity.
I agree 100%
I am a white man, born and raised in the south and I fully support the removal of all of the Confederate statues. Valor in the Confederacy? Get real! The whole concept of the Confederacy was based on the idea that black people were inferior and should remain slaves. The south fought to keep black people as property, to be bought and sold and simply used by white people. After slavery ended at the end of the Civil War, southerners brutally repressed blacks for another hundred years with Jim Crow Laws, the KKK and lynching.
So–LEARN from that!! REMEMBER that!! How does removing ‘reminders’ of mistakes made in our history ‘change’ anything?? Out of sight–out of mind? Do our children and grandchildren have to do it all over again to learn it was a mistake?? 100+years of ‘lessons’ to be taught to following generations!! Our country wasn’t built on ‘perfection’!! It was built by people struggling to create a nation. Blood, sweat and tears–but, also, strength, morals, ambition, dreams and–yes, valor and bravery! It took courage to build this country. It will take courage to defend it against the ‘destroyers’ who have nothing of value to donate to it. Those who think what they ‘want’ should be simply ‘handed’ to them–a mistake. No one values what they haven’t earned!! Self respect and decency are ‘earned’!!
Thank you! I agree 100%!
To ‘erase’ these statues from our History will do none of us any good. It will just take away the lessons we have learned as a whole. Here’s a similar situation-the removal of many, many historical accounts in our public school text books. Accounts that point toward supernatural (God’s Hand) events happening during our wars from freedom, many concerning George Washington. Those were REMOVED to ‘help’ our new generations FORGET there is a God involved in our personal lives.
And….where did that get us?
We see it right now. The Chaos that we are witnessing first-hand…is because of the REMOVAL of historical ACCOUNTS that our ANCESTORS had witnessed FIRST-HAND and wanted RECORDED for THIS GENERATION’S sake.
You know what? My mother loved to capture the historical buildings in our town on camera. As old buildings were being torn down, new ones were being put up. When studying local history, our young people don’t know what their elders are referring to, because the BUILDINGS are gone.
But Mom caught them on camera.
Perhaps that’s what WE should be doing right now…before the unlearned people destroy them for good.
Photograph your history, preserve it, interview the elderly to hear THEIR first-hand accounts (good or bad)…and preserve these.
The foolish will try to shut their eyes and ears to the truth. The WISE will PRESERVE IT.
I’m glad you brought that up!! History is caught ‘forever’ in the fabric of ‘time’–it never ‘really’ goes away. Many people who have visited the sites of the Civil War will tell you of their ‘supernatural’ experiences. Many have seen the ‘shadowy’ figures of soldiers still ‘fighting’ that battle, some had even ‘heard’ them. Like to see these fools try to ‘erase’ that! We only ‘move on’ when we learn the ‘lessons’ and forgive the ‘ignorance’ and intolerance that led to it. That does not mean we allow the destroyers of our culture to rampage through our country destroying all we’ve achieved, though. It also doesn’t excuse vindictive behavior aimed at those who did not commit those acts.
I saw nothing at Gettysburg but it left the most amazing feeling. As though you could see the participants.
Exactly, then any MLK statues and highways and everything named after him needs to be removed also if we’re going to erase history of that kind then it all needs to be removed!!!
This country ended slavery, The United States of America. At the present time slavery in the world is 10 times bigger than it was in Americas time. There has always been slavery in Africa, China, North Korea, all over the middle east. We have a bunch of ignorant clowns protesting something they don’t understand. I think the rioters should be labeled as terrorists and treated as such.
You mean the neo-Nazis and KKK members in Charlottesville? I couldn’t agree more that they should be treated like terrorists.
You have proven your own useful idiocy.
https://www.infowars.com/petition-to-declare-antifa-a-terrorist-organisation-nears-150000-signatures/. Sign up folks.
The neo-Nazis had a permit to march and protest the removal of Confederate Statues, the people who started the riot did not have a permit to be there. Like it or not the right of “FREE SPEECH” is a Constitutional Right in this country. The police chief, mayor and the governor were complicit in having the police stand down and allow the rioters to start. You do realize that the rioters were mostly from out of state and were paid to be there to start the riots. Even PBS showed where the police allowed the rioters to start with the throwing of projectiles and throwing fists. I am an American and don’t believe any of the crap the neo-Nazis profess but neither do I support the Antifa (terrorists) who are nothing more than a deeper problem facing America, paid for rioters.
Most more ancient forms of Slavery do not include the idea that the slave is inferior. Unfortunate Israelites were bonded to more prosperous ones, similarly with the Greeks, Romans, etc. They were nonetheless Israelites, Greeks, Romans, etc. It was in the English colonies where the slaves were treated/viewed as inferior.
http://africanholocaust.net/arabslavetrade/ Now remember Animal Farm. White man bad. Coloured man pure as the driven snow. Talk about revision of history !
Please explain what your rant has to do with my comment. Irrelevant allusions to fiction do not make much of an argument.
Slavery in forms other than the Hereditary Chattel form practiced in the Americas was practiced by people of all shades. Servitude at some level or another was the underlying feature of Dark Age/Feudal Europe. While changing position in the servant hierarchy was difficult it was possible, but the absolute ownership of inferior races was a FEATURE of the slavery culture in the Americas.
There were people of all shades and colors who practiced the earlier forms of slavery making your comment pretty much irrelevant.
Could you not understand the articles ? You state slaves were treated as inferior in the “English ” colonies, implying everywhere else they were treated as what ? honoured guests ? I never castrate my male guests ! ( not favoured by those disgusting English colonialists either ) I sent you a link refuting this from the African’s own point of view –with a modern example. Try Webster’s for the difficult words. This is the obvious drawback to indoctrination (modern education ) It limits imagination, proscribes seeing anything from any other perspective but the blinkered version taught. The Arabic word Abd, abeed was assigned to Africans , means enslaved. Still used in South Sudan enslavement by the North. Surely meant as a compliment ?
You should check out modern day Mexico, slavery and sex trafficking, big business.
“After slavery ended at the end of the Civil War, southerners brutally repressed blacks for another hundred years …” So who are you saying repressed blacks between 1776 and 1865?
Last time I checked slavery was always a southern institution. It was mostly southerners who repressed and enslaved blacks. Unfortunately that is not to say there were not guilty Northerners as well but by the time of the Civil War slavery was it exclusively a southern Institution
When the Emancipation Proclamation took effect in January 1863, it “freed 3.1 million of the nation’s 4 million slaves,” meaning that 900k were still enslaved on U.S. soil. That’s more people than live in San Francisco today. The 13th Amendment was not approved by Lincoln until Feb. 1, 1865.
The first state to legalize slavery is Massachusetts.
YANKEE slave traders continued to buy and sell slaves after the Civil War. They bought them in Africa and sold them in the Caribbean and in South America.
These YANKEE slave ships flew the American flag so as not to be boarded by European navies where slavery was outlawed. (See “The South was Right” by Kennedy and Kennedy)
Lincoln’s emancipation proclamation excluded slave states that remained in the Union and excluded some parishes in Louisiana that were under the control of the Union army.
And Kentucky where his wife’s family were also slave owners. Neat, no ?
Check again. You err.
You better re-educate yourself on that one. The northerners had white slaves, and indentured servants. Look it up.
Nonsense, complete ignorance for all to see.
Chuck Baldwin
Ladies and gentlemen, I submit that what we see happening in the United States today is an apt illustration of why the Confederate flag was raised in the first place. What we see materializing before our very eyes is tyranny: tyranny over the freedom of expression, tyranny over the freedom of association, tyranny over the freedom of speech, and tyranny over the freedom of conscience.
In 1864, Confederate General Patrick Cleburne warned his fellow southerners of the historical consequences should the South lose their war for independence. He was truly a prophet. He said if the South lost, “It means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy. That our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the war; will be impressed by all of the influences of History and Education to regard our gallant debt as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.” No truer words were ever spoken.
History revisionists flooded America’s public schools with Northern propaganda about the people who attempted to secede from the United States, characterizing them as racists, extremists, radicals, hatemongers, traitors, etc. You know, the same way that people in our federal government and news media attempt to characterize Christians, patriots, war veterans, constitutionalists, et al. today.
Folks, please understand that the only people in 1861 who believed that states did NOT have the right to secede were Abraham Lincoln and his radical Republicans. To say that southern states did not have the right to secede from the United States is to say that the thirteen colonies did not have the right to secede from Great Britain. One cannot be right and the other wrong. If one is right, both are right. How can we celebrate our Declaration of Independence in 1776 and then turn around and condemn the Declaration of Independence of the Confederacy in 1861? Talk about hypocrisy!
In fact, southern states were not the only states that talked about secession. After the southern states seceded, the State of Maryland fully intended to join them. In September of 1861, Lincoln sent federal troops to the State capital and seized the legislature by force in order to prevent them from voting. Federal provost marshals stood guard at the polls and arrested Democrats and anyone else who believed in secession. A special furlough was granted to Maryland troops so they could go home and vote against secession. Judges who tried to inquire into the phony elections were arrested and thrown into military prisons. There is your great “emancipator,” folks.
And before the South seceded, several northern states had also threatened secession. Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island had threatened secession as far back as James Madison’s administration. In addition, the states of New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Delaware were threatening secession during the first half of the nineteenth century – long before the southern states even considered such a thing.
People say constantly that Lincoln “saved” the Union. Lincoln didn’t save the Union; he subjugated the Union. There is a huge difference. A union that is not voluntary is not a union. Does a man have a right to force a woman to marry him or to force a woman to stay married to him? In the eyes of God, a union of husband and wife is far superior to a union of states. If God recognizes the right of husbands and wives to separate (and He does), to try and suggest that states do not have the right to lawfully (under Natural and divine right) separate is the most preposterous proposition imaginable.
People say that Lincoln freed the slaves. Lincoln did NOT free a single slave. But what he did do was enslave free men. His so-called Emancipation Proclamation had NO AUTHORITY in the southern states, as they had separated into another country. Imagine a President today signing a proclamation to free folks in, say, China or Saudi Arabia. He would be laughed out of Washington. Lincoln had no authority over the Confederate States of America, and he knew it.
Do you not find it interesting that Lincoln’s proclamation did NOT free a single slave in the United States, the country in which he DID have authority? That’s right. The Emancipation Proclamation deliberately ignored slavery in the North. Do you not realize that when Lincoln signed his proclamation, there were over 300,000 slaveholders who were fighting in the Union army? Check it out.
One of those northern slaveholders was General (and later U.S. President) Ulysses S. Grant. In fact, he maintained possession of his slaves even after the War Between the States concluded. Recall that his counterpart, Confederate General Robert E. Lee, freed his slaves BEFORE hostilities between North and South ever broke out. When asked why he refused to free his slaves, Grant said, “Good help is hard to find these days.”
The institution of slavery did not end until the 13th Amendment was ratified on December 6, 1865.
Speaking of the 13th Amendment, did you know that Lincoln authored his own 13th Amendment? It is the only amendment to the Constitution ever proposed by a sitting U.S. President. Here is Lincoln’s proposed amendment: “No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give Congress the power to abolish or interfere within any state with the domestic institutions thereof, including that a person’s held to labor or service by laws of said State.”
You read it right. Lincoln proposed an amendment to the U.S. Constitution PRESERVING the institution of slavery. This proposed amendment was written in March of 1861, a month BEFORE the shots were fired at Fort Sumter, South Carolina.
The State of South Carolina was particularly incensed at the tariffs enacted in 1828 and 1832. The Tariff of 1828 was disdainfully called, “The Tariff of Abominations” by the State of South Carolina. Accordingly, the South Carolina legislature declared that the tariffs of 1828 and 1832 were “unauthorized by the constitution of the United States.”
Think, folks: why would the southern states secede from the Union over slavery when President Abraham Lincoln had offered an amendment to the Constitution guaranteeing the PRESERVATION of slavery? That makes no sense. If the issue was predominantly slavery, all the South needed to do was to go along with Lincoln, and his proposed 13th Amendment would have permanently preserved slavery among the southern (and northern) states. Does that sound like a body of people who were willing to lose hundreds of thousands of men on the battlefield over saving slavery? What nonsense!
The problem was Lincoln wanted the southern states to pay the Union a 40% tariff on their exports. The South considered this outrageous and refused to pay. By the time hostilities broke out in 1861, the South was paying up to, and perhaps exceeding, 70% of the nation’s taxes. Before the war, the South was very prosperous and productive. And Washington, D.C., kept raising the taxes and tariffs on them. You know, the way Washington, D.C., keeps raising the taxes on prosperous American citizens today.
This is much the same story of the way the colonies refused to pay the demanded tariffs of the British Crown – albeit the tariffs of the Crown were MUCH lower than those demanded by Lincoln. Lincoln’s proposed 13th Amendment was an attempt to entice the South into paying the tariffs by being willing to permanently ensconce the institution of slavery into the Constitution. AND THE SOUTH SAID NO!
In addition, the Congressional Record of the United States forever obliterates the notion that the North fought the War Between the States over slavery. Read it for yourself. This resolution was passed unanimously in the U.S. Congress on July 23, 1861, “The War is waged by the government of the United States not in the spirit of conquest or subjugation, nor for the purpose of overthrowing or interfering with the rights or institutions of the states, but to defend and protect the Union.”
What could be clearer? The U.S. Congress declared that the war against the South was NOT an attempt to overthrow or interfere with the “institutions” of the states, but to keep the Union intact (by force). The “institutions” implied most certainly included the institution of slavery.
Hear it loudly and clearly: Lincoln’s war against the South had NOTHING to do with ending slavery – so said the U.S. Congress by unanimous resolution in 1861.
Abraham Lincoln, himself, said it was NEVER his intention to end the institution of slavery. In a letter to Alexander Stevens who later became the Vice President of the Confederacy, Lincoln wrote this, “Do the people of the South really entertain fears that a Republican administration would directly, or indirectly, interfere with their slaves, or with them, about their slaves? If they do, I wish to assure you, as once a friend, and still, I hope, not an enemy, that there is no cause for such fears. The South would be in no more danger in this respect than it was in the days of Washington.”
Again, what could be clearer? Lincoln, himself, said the southern states had nothing to fear from him in regard to abolishing slavery.
Hear Lincoln again: “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it.” He also said, “I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so and I have no inclination to do so.”
The idea that the Confederate flag (actually there were five of them) stood for racism, bigotry, hatred, and slavery is just so much hogwash. In fact, if one truly wants to discover who the racist was in 1861, just read the words of Mr. Lincoln.
On August 14, 1862, Abraham Lincoln invited a group of black people to the White House. In his address to them, he told them of his plans to colonize them all back to Africa. Listen to what he told these folks: “Why should the people of your race be colonized and where? Why should they leave this country? This is, perhaps, the first question for proper consideration. You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exists between almost any other two races. Whether it is right or wrong I need not discuss; but this physical difference is a great disadvantage to us both, as I think. Your race suffers very greatly, many of them, by living among us, while ours suffers from your presence. In a word, we suffer on each side. If this is admitted, it affords a reason, at least, why we should be separated. You here are freemen, I suppose? Perhaps you have been long free, or all your lives. Your race is suffering, in my judgment, the greatest wrong inflicted on any people. But even when you cease to be slaves, you are yet far removed from being placed on an equality with the white race. The aspiration of men is to enjoy equality with the best when free, but on this broad continent not a single man of your race is made the equal of a single man of our race.”
Did you hear what Lincoln said? He said that black people would NEVER be equal with white people – even if they all obtained their freedom from slavery. If that isn’t a racist statement, I’ve never heard one.
Lincoln’s statement above is not isolated. In Charleston, Illinois, in 1858, Lincoln said in a speech, “I am not, nor have ever been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races. I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races from living together on social or political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white.”
Ladies and gentlemen, in his own words, Abraham Lincoln declared himself to be a white supremacist. Why don’t our history books and news media tell the American people the truth about Lincoln and about the War Between the States?
It’s simple: if people would study the meanings and history of the flag, symbols, and statues of the Confederacy and Confederate leaders, they might begin to awaken to the tyrannical policies of Washington, D.C., that precluded southern independence – policies that have only escalated since the defeat of the Confederacy – and they might have a notion to again resist.
By the time Lincoln penned his Emancipation Proclamation, the war had been going on for two years without resolution. In fact, the North was losing the war. Even though the South was outmanned and out-equipped, the genius of the southern generals and fighting acumen of the southern men had put the northern armies on their heels. Many people in the North never saw the legitimacy of Lincoln’s war in the first place, and many of them actively campaigned against it. These people were affectionately called “Copperheads” by people in the South.
I urge you to watch Ron Maxwell’s accurate depiction of those people in the North who favored the southern cause as depicted in his motion picture, “Copperhead.” For that matter, I consider his movie, “Gods And Generals” to be the greatest “Civil War” movie ever made. It is the most accurate and fairest depiction of Confederate General Thomas Jonathan “Stonewall” Jackson ever produced. In my opinion, actor Stephen Lang should have received an Oscar for his performance as General Jackson. But, can you imagine?
That’s another thing: the war fought from 1861 to 1865 was NOT a “civil war.” Civil war suggests two sides fighting for control of the same capital and country. The South didn’t want to take over Washington, D.C., no more than their forebears wanted to take over London. They wanted to separate from Washington, D.C., just as America’s Founding Fathers wanted to separate from Great Britain. The proper names for that war are either, “The War Between the States” or, “The War of Southern Independence,” or, more fittingly, “The War of Northern Aggression.”
Had the South wanted to take over Washington, D.C., they could have done so with the very first battle of the “Civil War.” When Lincoln ordered federal troops to invade Virginia in the First Battle of Manassas (called the “First Battle of Bull Run” by the North), Confederate troops sent the Yankees running for their lives all the way back to Washington. Had the Confederates pursued them, they could have easily taken the city of Washington, D.C., seized Abraham Lincoln, and perhaps ended the war before it really began. But General Beauregard and the others had no intention of fighting an aggressive war against the North. They merely wanted to defend the South against the aggression of the North.
In order to rally people in the North, Lincoln needed a moral crusade. That’s what his Emancipation Proclamation was all about. This explains why his proclamation was not penned until 1863, after two years of fruitless fighting. He was counting on people in the North to stop resisting his war against the South if they thought it was some kind of “holy” war. Plus, Lincoln was hoping that his proclamation would incite blacks in the South to insurrect against southern whites. If thousands of blacks would begin to wage war against their white neighbors, the fighting men of the southern armies would have to leave the battlefields and go home to defend their families. THIS NEVER HAPPENED.
Not only did blacks not riot against the whites of the south, many black men volunteered to fight alongside their white friends and neighbors in the Confederate army. Unlike the blacks in the North, who were conscripted by Lincoln and forced to fight in segregated units, thousands of blacks in the South fought of their own free will in a fully-integrated southern army. I bet your history book never told you about that.
If one wants to ban a racist flag, one would have to ban the British flag. Ships bearing the Union Jack shipped over 5 million African slaves to countries all over the world, including the British colonies in North America. Other slave ships flew the Dutch flag and the Portuguese flag and the Spanish flag, and, yes, the U.S. flag. But not one single slave ship flew the Confederate flag. NOT ONE!
By the time Lincoln launched his war against the southern states, slavery was already a dying institution. The entire country, including the South, recognized the moral evil of slavery and wanted it to end. Only a small fraction of southerners even owned slaves. The slave trade had ended in 1808, per the U.S. Constitution, and the practice of slavery was quickly dying, too. In another few years, with the advent of agricultural machinery, slavery would have ended peacefully – just like it had in England. It didn’t take a national war and the deaths of over a half million men to end slavery in Great Britain. America’s so-called “Civil War” was absolutely unnecessary. The greed of Lincoln’s radical Republicans in the North, combined with the cold, calloused heart of Lincoln himself is responsible for the tragedy of the “Civil War.”
And look at what is happening now: in one instant – after one deranged young man killed nine black people and who ostensibly photo-shopped a picture of himself with a Confederate flag – the entire political and media establishments in the country go on an all-out crusade to remove all semblances of the Confederacy. The speed in which all of this has happened suggests that this was a planned, orchestrated event by the Powers That Be (PTB). And is it a mere coincidence that this took place at the exact same time that the U.S. Supreme Court decided to legalize same-sex marriage? I think not.
The Confederate Battle Flag flies the Saint Andrews cross. Of course, Andrew was the first disciple of Jesus Christ, brother of Simon Peter, and Christian martyr who was crucified on an X-shaped cross at around the age of 90. Andrew is the patron saint of both Russia and Scotland.
In the 1800s, up to 75% of people in the South were either Scotch or Scotch-Irish. The Confederate Battle Flag is predicated on the national flag of Scotland. It is a symbol of the Christian faith and heritage of the Celtic race.
Pastor John Weaver rightly observed, “Even the Confederate States motto, ‘Deovendickia,’ (The Lord is our Vindicator), illustrates the sovereignty and the righteousness of God. The Saint Andrews cross is also known as the Greek letter CHIA (KEE) and has historically been used to represent Jesus Christ. Why do you think people write Merry X-mas, just to give you an illustration? The ‘X’ is the Greek letter CHIA and it has been historically used for Christ. Moreover, its importance was understood by educated and uneducated people alike. When an uneducated man, one that could not write, needed to sign his name please tell me what letter he made? An ‘X,’ why? Because he was saying I am taking an oath under God. I am recognizing the sovereignty of God, the providence of God and I am pledging my faith. May I tell you the Confederate Flag is indeed a Christian flag because it has the cross of Saint Andrew, who was a Christian martyr, and the letter ‘X’ has always been used to represent Christ, and to attack the flag is to deny the sovereignty, the majesty, and the might of the Lord Jesus Christ and his divine role in our history, culture, and life.”
Many of the facts that I reference in this column were included in a message delivered several years ago by Pastor John Weaver. I want to thank John for preaching such a powerful and needed message. Read or watch Pastor Weaver’s sermon “The Truth About The Confederate Battle Flag” here:
HYPERLINK “http://www.confederateamericanpride.com/battleflag.html” t “_blank” The Truth About The Confederate Battle Flag
Combine the current attacks against Biblical and traditional marriage, the attacks against all things Confederate, the attacks against all things Christian, and the attacks against all things constitutional and what we are witnessing is a heightened example of why the Confederate Battle Flag was created to begin with. Virtually every act of federal usurpation of liberty that we are witnessing today, and have been witnessing for much of the twentieth century, is the result of Lincoln’s war against the South. Truly, we are living in Lincoln’s America, not Washington and Jefferson’s America. Washington and Jefferson’s America died at Appomattox Court House in 1865.
Instead of lowering the Confederate flag, we should be raising it.
© Chuck Baldwin
Besides the Bible, that is the best and most truthful article I may have ever read. Thank you! It is brilliant!
Brilliant post. I learned a lot. It’s ashamed that history is edited by the victor.
Very good, but the anarchist don’t really care, they are not interested in the truth.
You need to read history before you make such statements. They are just not true.
And they were represented by the democrat party.
Called the Klanbake for obvious reasons ! The Klan had spread throughout the US by then. It was held in New Jersey !
Once again I am pushing the BULL SHIT button!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dde46f3fa734a2625356bc15ea74f3a239a60b60e601a4ea5dfd8f883eeb9f14.jpg
You are really stupid and should shut up so that there is some doubt of your total stupidity!
ALL by the so-called “democrat” (now communist) “party”. The same “party” that are attempting to destroy America and turn it into a third-world craphole full of “subjects”, THEY can CONTROL….AND The same CORRUPT FREAKS that are attempting to change history to “pull the wool” over people’s eyes by indoctrination in our Schools , textbook “changes” and continuous LIES. (more alinsky “tactics”) SORRY , it isn’t “working…WE THE PEOPLE have wised up to your “tactics”, so GO AWAY TROLL..If you don’t like it here, use another one of our freedoms..LEAVE and go live in a nice COMMUNIST COUNTRY.
You are a hate monger and have no idea of what the Civil War was all about. Very few who fought for the south had slaves or even wanted them. Most were farmers and folks who only wanted peace and to be left alone. They were a proud people and just like it is today, they served their military and did as they were told to protect the rights of the south that they held dearly. Only the plantations and rich people wanted the slaves and that was because of the near free labor they got from slavery. Today we do not have slavery, however we do have history that van not be erased. The great Generals like Robert E Lee and the Confederate Flag is not a symbol of slavery but a rememberance of the people of the south and a time in history when men , women, and children fought and died for what they believe in.
Today we see a reversal of the Confederacy and the hate mongers who want to destroy statues and symbols of the culture and history of our country. These people are like the plantation owners who wanted something for little to nothing and that’s what they represent to our country today. They want to be babied, pampered, and cared for by the government and they feel that by yelling racism and destroying history that they will achieve their goals. Most have no idea about what the Civil war was all about and they could care less. They enjoy being radical trouble makers and get some kind of enjoyment from being assholes instead of patriots. They don’t look back on how history has progressed and great strides have been made to bring all Americans, all races, and all colors together to live in peace. Sure, there will always be hate groups and free loaders but trying to erase the past rather than learn from it and dividing our nation rather than unite it will bring about more hatred and more division rather than peace. Following the strides made by many to bring peace and unity to our nation and that was at an all time high thanks to men like MLK, but along comes a racist, hate monger, socialist, communist, who wanted to divide our nation and destroy it. That was Obama, and his agenda set back the many gains in Civil rights, destroyed much of the work and accomplishments of MLK and brought about a divide that can only be stopped by people who want to live in peace with each other, learn from history, and make moves that will follow our laws to bring equality to all.
So when do we begin tearing down the North’s history ?http://slavenorth.com/exclusion.htm
Nonsense. Just change the word “Confederate” to “democrat” and maybe we can agree.
So did Northern, non slave owning States. There are many faces to slavery. http://slavenorth.com/exclusion.htm. As Khalil Gibran says “look upon all deeds in the fullness of light. “
Thought I posted this once. http://slavenorth.com/exclusion.htm Slavery does not have to involve chains or bills of sale. Some of our largest cities (UK )were built on proceeds of slavery/ slave trade. So we raze them to the ground to appease a parcel of anarchists who intend to replace our social fabric with what ? socialism ? That belongs with the dodo .
The first state to legalize slavery is Massachusetts.
YANKEE slave traders continued to buy and sell slaves after the Civil War ended. They bought these slaves in Africa and sold them in the Caribbean and in South America.
These YANKEE slave ships flew the American flag so as not to be boarded by European navies where slavery had been banned.
One can see a picture of one of these YANKEE slave ships in “The South Was Right” by Kennedy and Kennedy.
Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation exempted slave states that remained in the Union and certain parishes in Louisiana which were under the control of Union troops.
It only applied to states in the Confederacy which was a sovereign nation over which Lincoln had no legal authority.
Therefore, his proclamation did not free slaves anywhere. Slaves were eventually freed by passage of the 13th amendment.
Most of the Confederate statutes were not erected at the end of the Civil War, but in the early 20th century, at the height of the Jim Crow era, to intimidate blacks and to remind them of their inferior status in the south.
You don’t seem to understand the South at all. Or heritage. Or valor. My family fought in the Civil War, most as Confederates, and not one ever owned a slave. They were fighting for the nation where they lived. And we all know what tearing down historical statues leads to. And as revealed by the past few days, statues of Southern historical figures has nothing to do with this craziness you promote. History shows where it leads, and I doubt you really want to go there.
Seems the ignorant and ‘clueless’ are insisting on going ‘there’ again!! As you say–history could tell them where they’re headed but–what do they know of history? Nothing! So, let’s tear down any ‘reminders’ and pretend it never happened!! Since when did that ever work?? Answer: Never!
Mary – I understand the south quite well. I grew up in the south and lived there for 26 years. There are people like you and Pineapple who, 150 years after the Civil War ended, still want to defend the Confederacy and slave-owning.
You argue with a straight face that the Civil War was not about slavery, but States Rights.
You claim that your family did not own slaves, but fought for the Confederacy and you appear to be proud of that. Well shame on your ancestors. Your ancestors fought to keep a an entire race of people enslaved, simply due to the color of their skin.
If your forefathers fought for the Confederacy, there is also a high degree of probability they later were members of the Klu Klux Klan and may have even participated in the lynching of blacks.
I would strongly wager that you and your parents also strongly opposed school desegregation brought about by Brown v. Board of Education, as well as the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965.
Mary – Please tell us what your family did for the 100 years, from the end of the Civil War in 1865, until the passage of the Voting Rights Act in 1965. Did they work to help black people in the south? Did they oppose segregation? Did they help blacks register to vote?
Please tell us.
Yes, I will tell you what my ancestors did after the Civil War. On Oct. 12, 1864, my Civil War grandfather died in Thomson, GA, far from his young wife and two baby boys. They never knew what happened to him, but she and the boys were destitute. She had to move to Texas to live near her brother, who could help keep food on her table. It took me 32 years and the intervention of God to find my Civil War grandfather’s grave. Yes, I am extremely proud of him for defending his family and his homeland, which is what the C.S.A. was. He was not fighting to keep slavery, as he nor his family ever owned one. He fought and died for his family and his country. I would say that is honorable.
Moving forward to my grandmother, who was a Gospel minister. She would pack up her wagon, leave her husband and minor children, and go for days to live among and preach to the blacks. Moving up to my parents, they employed a black woman to keep house and us kids. We all loved her and would have done anything for her. No one in my family, to my knowledge, were ever members of the KKK. In fact, I remember a cross-burning at a white country store when I was a child. The entire neighborhood was frightened of the KKK.
You have never heard me argue that “the Civil War was not about slavery, but States Rights.” I will argue that it was about freedom to govern a nation’s own sovereign soil. If you will notice in the C.S.A. Constitution, it specifies that no slaves were ever to be imported from anywhere, so the South knew that it was a dying institution even when it upheld it. I think, however, that you might agree that if you were being taxed to the breaking point and getting no return for your money, as the South was at the time, you might become a little rebellious and take a stand for yourself.
Yes, I recall my parents were against integration. It was a complete change to their way of life. Radical change is always frightening, no matter the situation. But it was the same all over the United States. I recall a town in Oregon that did not even want blacks to enter their city limits and warned them not to let the sun set on them there. I recall terrible riots in Boston and other places up North, so the issue was not all about the South. And, no, my parents did not work to get blacks registered to vote. My parents were too busy raising a family and working every day to put a roof over our heads. We had no government handouts, being white and all. On the side, we tilled the land to put food in our bellies.
I have lived from “sea to shining sea” in our great country and even overseas, and I will now tell you what I have observed here. Whenever a large integrated crowd is thrown together, the blacks segregate themselves from the whites. It is not the other way around. My granddaughter recently graduated from a high school that is about 95 percent black. In her Louisiana history class, the black teacher had only black portraits lining her classroom walls. She did not acknowledge any whites in Louisiana history. Instead, she would stand in that “integrated” class of two whites and multiple blacks and teach among other atrocities how white people cut out the tongues of black slaves. She was fostering hate between the races instead of trying to help our nation heal.
Perhaps part of the problem today is that people like you cannot comprehend harmony among the races but must forever try to divide.
If they want to remove southern statues, why don’t they also remove the Lincoln memorial?
Abraham Lincoln was a racist who was also guilty of war crimes and is responsible for the deaths of over 600,000 Americans.
In 1858, during a debate with Stephen Douglas, Abraham Lincoln said: “I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people….” (Google Lincoln-Douglas debates.)
It is commonly taught that the War Between the States was about the abolition of slavery. Actually, the impetus for the war was due to a tariff placed on imported goods coming through Southern sea ports by a Northern dominated Congress. This tariff was referred to by Southerners as the Tariff of Abominations and nearly caused South Carolina to secede from the Union. Andrew Jackson threatened to send federal troops to Charleston if South Carolina refused to collect the tariff and send it to Washington. (See “Kearney’s March” by Winston Groom.)
This tariff was used to build roads and bridges in the northern states while the south was left to fend for itself.
Senator William Grayson of Virginia expressed concern that the South would eventually become the “milch cow” of the Union.
When the southern states threatened secession, Lincoln was asked why he didn’t just let the South go. He said: ”Let the South go? Let the South go! Where then shall we get our revenues?”(See “Memoirs of Service Afloat” by Raphael Semmes.)
Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation excluded slave states that remained in the Union and certain parishes in Louisiana that were under control of Union troops. It only applied to states in the Confederacy, which was a sovereign nation, over which Lincoln had no legal authority.
Therefore, his proclamation did not free slaves anywhere.
Slaves were eventually freed by passage of the Thirteenth Amendment on December 6th, 1865.
Some of the many atrocities committed by Lincoln’s Union Army are as follows:
Lincoln ordered General Sherman to “make Georgia howl.” So Sherman marched through Georgia burning not only towns, villages, factories and grist mills, but also burning crops, leaving women, children, and the elderly to starve. Sherman captured more than two thousand white women and children who were sent to the North to work at sustenance level pay, making them virtual slaves for the Yankees. They were never returned to their families.
Union Colonel John B. Turchin was court-martialed for letting his troops “plunder and pillage the inhabitants” of Athens, Alabama, and allowing several of his soldiers to commit rape on the person of a colored girl. After being convicted, Turchhin was promoted to the rank of Brigadier General by Abraham Lincoln and continued to serve in the Union Army until Oct 4, 1864.
In Marion County Missouri, Gen. John McNeil threw southern sympathizers in jail for expressing a pro-Southern point of view. When a Union informer came up missing, McNeil threatened to kill ten of these men if the informer did not show up. When the informer didn’t show up, these men were summarily executed. Shortly afterwards, McNeil was promoted to Brigadier General by Lincoln.
In 1862, several tribes of Native Americans revolted against the cruel policies of the United States government. This caused Minnesotans to fear for their safety. General John Pope rounded up 300 warriors, out of which Lincoln selected thirty nine to be executed. These Native Americans were executed to assuage the fears of white Minnesotans so they would vote for the re-election of Lincoln, which they did. (For details of the above and other atrocities, see, “The South was Right” by James and Walter Kennedy.)
By invading The Confederate States of America, a sovereign nation, Lincoln caused the death of 600,000 Americans, not to end slavery but to hold on to power.
Wow, Pineapple makes the incredible comment that Lincoln is responsible for the Civil War and 600,000 American deaths.
He fails to mention Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, Stone wall Jackson or the thousands of other traitors who fought against the United States to keep over millions of blacks enslaved.
He fails to mention the Civil War started when the Confederates fired on Fort Sumter.
Talk about trying to re-write history.
Chuck Baldwin
Ladies and gentlemen, I submit that what we see happening in the United States today is an apt illustration of why the Confederate flag was raised in the first place. What we see materializing before our very eyes is tyranny: tyranny over the freedom of expression, tyranny over the freedom of association, tyranny over the freedom of speech, and tyranny over the freedom of conscience.
In 1864, Confederate General Patrick Cleburne warned his fellow southerners of the historical consequences should the South lose their war for independence. He was truly a prophet. He said if the South lost, “It means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy. That our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the war; will be impressed by all of the influences of History and Education to regard our gallant debt as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.” No truer words were ever spoken.
History revisionists flooded America’s public schools with Northern propaganda about the people who attempted to secede from the United States, characterizing them as racists, extremists, radicals, hatemongers, traitors, etc. You know, the same way that people in our federal government and news media attempt to characterize Christians, patriots, war veterans, constitutionalists, et al. today.
Folks, please understand that the only people in 1861 who believed that states did NOT have the right to secede were Abraham Lincoln and his radical Republicans. To say that southern states did not have the right to secede from the United States is to say that the thirteen colonies did not have the right to secede from Great Britain. One cannot be right and the other wrong. If one is right, both are right. How can we celebrate our Declaration of Independence in 1776 and then turn around and condemn the Declaration of Independence of the Confederacy in 1861? Talk about hypocrisy!
In fact, southern states were not the only states that talked about secession. After the southern states seceded, the State of Maryland fully intended to join them. In September of 1861, Lincoln sent federal troops to the State capital and seized the legislature by force in order to prevent them from voting. Federal provost marshals stood guard at the polls and arrested Democrats and anyone else who believed in secession. A special furlough was granted to Maryland troops so they could go home and vote against secession. Judges who tried to inquire into the phony elections were arrested and thrown into military prisons. There is your great “emancipator,” folks.
And before the South seceded, several northern states had also threatened secession. Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island had threatened secession as far back as James Madison’s administration. In addition, the states of New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Delaware were threatening secession during the first half of the nineteenth century – long before the southern states even considered such a thing.
People say constantly that Lincoln “saved” the Union. Lincoln didn’t save the Union; he subjugated the Union. There is a huge difference. A union that is not voluntary is not a union. Does a man have a right to force a woman to marry him or to force a woman to stay married to him? In the eyes of God, a union of husband and wife is far superior to a union of states. If God recognizes the right of husbands and wives to separate (and He does), to try and suggest that states do not have the right to lawfully (under Natural and divine right) separate is the most preposterous proposition imaginable.
People say that Lincoln freed the slaves. Lincoln did NOT free a single slave. But what he did do was enslave free men. His so-called Emancipation Proclamation had NO AUTHORITY in the southern states, as they had separated into another country. Imagine a President today signing a proclamation to free folks in, say, China or Saudi Arabia. He would be laughed out of Washington. Lincoln had no authority over the Confederate States of America, and he knew it.
Do you not find it interesting that Lincoln’s proclamation did NOT free a single slave in the United States, the country in which he DID have authority? That’s right. The Emancipation Proclamation deliberately ignored slavery in the North. Do you not realize that when Lincoln signed his proclamation, there were over 300,000 slaveholders who were fighting in the Union army? Check it out.
One of those northern slaveholders was General (and later U.S. President) Ulysses S. Grant. In fact, he maintained possession of his slaves even after the War Between the States concluded. Recall that his counterpart, Confederate General Robert E. Lee, freed his slaves BEFORE hostilities between North and South ever broke out. When asked why he refused to free his slaves, Grant said, “Good help is hard to find these days.”
The institution of slavery did not end until the 13th Amendment was ratified on December 6, 1865.
Speaking of the 13th Amendment, did you know that Lincoln authored his own 13th Amendment? It is the only amendment to the Constitution ever proposed by a sitting U.S. President. Here is Lincoln’s proposed amendment: “No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give Congress the power to abolish or interfere within any state with the domestic institutions thereof, including that a person’s held to labor or service by laws of said State.”
You read it right. Lincoln proposed an amendment to the U.S. Constitution PRESERVING the institution of slavery. This proposed amendment was written in March of 1861, a month BEFORE the shots were fired at Fort Sumter, South Carolina.
The State of South Carolina was particularly incensed at the tariffs enacted in 1828 and 1832. The Tariff of 1828 was disdainfully called, “The Tariff of Abominations” by the State of South Carolina. Accordingly, the South Carolina legislature declared that the tariffs of 1828 and 1832 were “unauthorized by the constitution of the United States.”
Think, folks: why would the southern states secede from the Union over slavery when President Abraham Lincoln had offered an amendment to the Constitution guaranteeing the PRESERVATION of slavery? That makes no sense. If the issue was predominantly slavery, all the South needed to do was to go along with Lincoln, and his proposed 13th Amendment would have permanently preserved slavery among the southern (and northern) states. Does that sound like a body of people who were willing to lose hundreds of thousands of men on the battlefield over saving slavery? What nonsense!
The problem was Lincoln wanted the southern states to pay the Union a 40% tariff on their exports. The South considered this outrageous and refused to pay. By the time hostilities broke out in 1861, the South was paying up to, and perhaps exceeding, 70% of the nation’s taxes. Before the war, the South was very prosperous and productive. And Washington, D.C., kept raising the taxes and tariffs on them. You know, the way Washington, D.C., keeps raising the taxes on prosperous American citizens today.
This is much the same story of the way the colonies refused to pay the demanded tariffs of the British Crown – albeit the tariffs of the Crown were MUCH lower than those demanded by Lincoln. Lincoln’s proposed 13th Amendment was an attempt to entice the South into paying the tariffs by being willing to permanently ensconce the institution of slavery into the Constitution. AND THE SOUTH SAID NO!
In addition, the Congressional Record of the United States forever obliterates the notion that the North fought the War Between the States over slavery. Read it for yourself. This resolution was passed unanimously in the U.S. Congress on July 23, 1861, “The War is waged by the government of the United States not in the spirit of conquest or subjugation, nor for the purpose of overthrowing or interfering with the rights or institutions of the states, but to defend and protect the Union.”
What could be clearer? The U.S. Congress declared that the war against the South was NOT an attempt to overthrow or interfere with the “institutions” of the states, but to keep the Union intact (by force). The “institutions” implied most certainly included the institution of slavery.
Hear it loudly and clearly: Lincoln’s war against the South had NOTHING to do with ending slavery – so said the U.S. Congress by unanimous resolution in 1861.
Abraham Lincoln, himself, said it was NEVER his intention to end the institution of slavery. In a letter to Alexander Stevens who later became the Vice President of the Confederacy, Lincoln wrote this, “Do the people of the South really entertain fears that a Republican administration would directly, or indirectly, interfere with their slaves, or with them, about their slaves? If they do, I wish to assure you, as once a friend, and still, I hope, not an enemy, that there is no cause for such fears. The South would be in no more danger in this respect than it was in the days of Washington.”
Again, what could be clearer? Lincoln, himself, said the southern states had nothing to fear from him in regard to abolishing slavery.
Hear Lincoln again: “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it.” He also said, “I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so and I have no inclination to do so.”
The idea that the Confederate flag (actually there were five of them) stood for racism, bigotry, hatred, and slavery is just so much hogwash. In fact, if one truly wants to discover who the racist was in 1861, just read the words of Mr. Lincoln.
On August 14, 1862, Abraham Lincoln invited a group of black people to the White House. In his address to them, he told them of his plans to colonize them all back to Africa. Listen to what he told these folks: “Why should the people of your race be colonized and where? Why should they leave this country? This is, perhaps, the first question for proper consideration. You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exists between almost any other two races. Whether it is right or wrong I need not discuss; but this physical difference is a great disadvantage to us both, as I think. Your race suffers very greatly, many of them, by living among us, while ours suffers from your presence. In a word, we suffer on each side. If this is admitted, it affords a reason, at least, why we should be separated. You here are freemen, I suppose? Perhaps you have been long free, or all your lives. Your race is suffering, in my judgment, the greatest wrong inflicted on any people. But even when you cease to be slaves, you are yet far removed from being placed on an equality with the white race. The aspiration of men is to enjoy equality with the best when free, but on this broad continent not a single man of your race is made the equal of a single man of our race.”
Did you hear what Lincoln said? He said that black people would NEVER be equal with white people – even if they all obtained their freedom from slavery. If that isn’t a racist statement, I’ve never heard one.
Lincoln’s statement above is not isolated. In Charleston, Illinois, in 1858, Lincoln said in a speech, “I am not, nor have ever been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races. I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races from living together on social or political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white.”
Ladies and gentlemen, in his own words, Abraham Lincoln declared himself to be a white supremacist. Why don’t our history books and news media tell the American people the truth about Lincoln and about the War Between the States?
It’s simple: if people would study the meanings and history of the flag, symbols, and statues of the Confederacy and Confederate leaders, they might begin to awaken to the tyrannical policies of Washington, D.C., that precluded southern independence – policies that have only escalated since the defeat of the Confederacy – and they might have a notion to again resist.
By the time Lincoln penned his Emancipation Proclamation, the war had been going on for two years without resolution. In fact, the North was losing the war. Even though the South was outmanned and out-equipped, the genius of the southern generals and fighting acumen of the southern men had put the northern armies on their heels. Many people in the North never saw the legitimacy of Lincoln’s war in the first place, and many of them actively campaigned against it. These people were affectionately called “Copperheads” by people in the South.
I urge you to watch Ron Maxwell’s accurate depiction of those people in the North who favored the southern cause as depicted in his motion picture, “Copperhead.” For that matter, I consider his movie, “Gods And Generals” to be the greatest “Civil War” movie ever made. It is the most accurate and fairest depiction of Confederate General Thomas Jonathan “Stonewall” Jackson ever produced. In my opinion, actor Stephen Lang should have received an Oscar for his performance as General Jackson. But, can you imagine?
That’s another thing: the war fought from 1861 to 1865 was NOT a “civil war.” Civil war suggests two sides fighting for control of the same capital and country. The South didn’t want to take over Washington, D.C., no more than their forebears wanted to take over London. They wanted to separate from Washington, D.C., just as America’s Founding Fathers wanted to separate from Great Britain. The proper names for that war are either, “The War Between the States” or, “The War of Southern Independence,” or, more fittingly, “The War of Northern Aggression.”
Had the South wanted to take over Washington, D.C., they could have done so with the very first battle of the “Civil War.” When Lincoln ordered federal troops to invade Virginia in the First Battle of Manassas (called the “First Battle of Bull Run” by the North), Confederate troops sent the Yankees running for their lives all the way back to Washington. Had the Confederates pursued them, they could have easily taken the city of Washington, D.C., seized Abraham Lincoln, and perhaps ended the war before it really began. But General Beauregard and the others had no intention of fighting an aggressive war against the North. They merely wanted to defend the South against the aggression of the North.
In order to rally people in the North, Lincoln needed a moral crusade. That’s what his Emancipation Proclamation was all about. This explains why his proclamation was not penned until 1863, after two years of fruitless fighting. He was counting on people in the North to stop resisting his war against the South if they thought it was some kind of “holy” war. Plus, Lincoln was hoping that his proclamation would incite blacks in the South to insurrect against southern whites. If thousands of blacks would begin to wage war against their white neighbors, the fighting men of the southern armies would have to leave the battlefields and go home to defend their families. THIS NEVER HAPPENED.
Not only did blacks not riot against the whites of the south, many black men volunteered to fight alongside their white friends and neighbors in the Confederate army. Unlike the blacks in the North, who were conscripted by Lincoln and forced to fight in segregated units, thousands of blacks in the South fought of their own free will in a fully-integrated southern army. I bet your history book never told you about that.
If one wants to ban a racist flag, one would have to ban the British flag. Ships bearing the Union Jack shipped over 5 million African slaves to countries all over the world, including the British colonies in North America. Other slave ships flew the Dutch flag and the Portuguese flag and the Spanish flag, and, yes, the U.S. flag. But not one single slave ship flew the Confederate flag. NOT ONE!
By the time Lincoln launched his war against the southern states, slavery was already a dying institution. The entire country, including the South, recognized the moral evil of slavery and wanted it to end. Only a small fraction of southerners even owned slaves. The slave trade had ended in 1808, per the U.S. Constitution, and the practice of slavery was quickly dying, too. In another few years, with the advent of agricultural machinery, slavery would have ended peacefully – just like it had in England. It didn’t take a national war and the deaths of over a half million men to end slavery in Great Britain. America’s so-called “Civil War” was absolutely unnecessary. The greed of Lincoln’s radical Republicans in the North, combined with the cold, calloused heart of Lincoln himself is responsible for the tragedy of the “Civil War.”
And look at what is happening now: in one instant – after one deranged young man killed nine black people and who ostensibly photo-shopped a picture of himself with a Confederate flag – the entire political and media establishments in the country go on an all-out crusade to remove all semblances of the Confederacy. The speed in which all of this has happened suggests that this was a planned, orchestrated event by the Powers That Be (PTB). And is it a mere coincidence that this took place at the exact same time that the U.S. Supreme Court decided to legalize same-sex marriage? I think not.
The Confederate Battle Flag flies the Saint Andrews cross. Of course, Andrew was the first disciple of Jesus Christ, brother of Simon Peter, and Christian martyr who was crucified on an X-shaped cross at around the age of 90. Andrew is the patron saint of both Russia and Scotland.
In the 1800s, up to 75% of people in the South were either Scotch or Scotch-Irish. The Confederate Battle Flag is predicated on the national flag of Scotland. It is a symbol of the Christian faith and heritage of the Celtic race.
Pastor John Weaver rightly observed, “Even the Confederate States motto, ‘Deovendickia,’ (The Lord is our Vindicator), illustrates the sovereignty and the righteousness of God. The Saint Andrews cross is also known as the Greek letter CHIA (KEE) and has historically been used to represent Jesus Christ. Why do you think people write Merry X-mas, just to give you an illustration? The ‘X’ is the Greek letter CHIA and it has been historically used for Christ. Moreover, its importance was understood by educated and uneducated people alike. When an uneducated man, one that could not write, needed to sign his name please tell me what letter he made? An ‘X,’ why? Because he was saying I am taking an oath under God. I am recognizing the sovereignty of God, the providence of God and I am pledging my faith. May I tell you the Confederate Flag is indeed a Christian flag because it has the cross of Saint Andrew, who was a Christian martyr, and the letter ‘X’ has always been used to represent Christ, and to attack the flag is to deny the sovereignty, the majesty, and the might of the Lord Jesus Christ and his divine role in our history, culture, and life.”
Many of the facts that I reference in this column were included in a message delivered several years ago by Pastor John Weaver. I want to thank John for preaching such a powerful and needed message. Read or watch Pastor Weaver’s sermon “The Truth About The Confederate Battle Flag” here:
HYPERLINK “http://www.confederateamericanpride.com/battleflag.html” t “_blank” The Truth About The Confederate Battle Flag
Combine the current attacks against Biblical and traditional marriage, the attacks against all things Confederate, the attacks against all things Christian, and the attacks against all things constitutional and what we are witnessing is a heightened example of why the Confederate Battle Flag was created to begin with. Virtually every act of federal usurpation of liberty that we are witnessing today, and have been witnessing for much of the twentieth century, is the result of Lincoln’s war against the South. Truly, we are living in Lincoln’s America, not Washington and Jefferson’s America. Washington and Jefferson’s America died at Appomattox Court House in 1865.
Instead of lowering the Confederate flag, we should be raising it.
© Chuck Baldwin
Pineapple is one of those Southerners who still wants to keep fighting the Civil War 152 years after the Confederacy lost. Pineapple, like so many apologists for the Confederacy falsely claims that the Civil War that was not about slavery, even thou every Article of Succession, by every Confederate State, first mentions slavery.
Pineapple claims that the real reason for the Civil War was the Tariffs of 1828, called the Tariffs of Abomination by some southerners, passed during the Administration of John Adams, 23 years before the start of the Civil War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariff_of_Abominations
47% of Southern Congressmen voted for the Tariffs of 1928.
Here is an excellent article from the Washington Post,
“Five myths about why the South seceded”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/five-myths-about-why-the-south-seceded/2011/01/03/ABHr6jD_story.html?utm_term=.dcb2e806bed2
that totally debunks all of Pineapples claims.
One hundred fifty years after the Civil War began, we’re still fighting it — or at least fighting over its history. I’ve polled thousands of high school history teachers and spoken about the war to audiences across the country, and there is little agreement even about why the South seceded. Was it over slavery? States’ rights? Tariffs and taxes?
As the nation begins to commemorate the anniversaries of the war’s various battles — from Fort Sumter to Appomattox — let’s first dispense with some of the more prevalent myths about why it all began.
1. The South seceded over states’ rights.
Confederate states did claim the right to secede, but no state claimed to be seceding for that right. In fact, Confederates opposed states’ rights — that is, the right of Northern states not to support slavery.
On Dec. 24, 1860, delegates at South Carolina’s secession convention adopted a “Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union.” It noted “an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery” and protested that Northern states had failed to “fulfill their constitutional obligations” by interfering with the return of fugitive slaves to bondage. Slavery, not states’ rights, birthed the Civil War.
South Carolina was further upset that New York no longer allowed “slavery transit.” In the past, if Charleston gentry wanted to spend August in the Hamptons, they could bring their cook along. No longer — and South Carolina’s delegates were outraged. In addition, they objected that New England states let black men vote and tolerated abolitionist societies. According to South Carolina, states should not have the right to let their citizens assemble and speak freely when what they said threatened slavery.
Other seceding states echoed South Carolina. “Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery — the greatest material interest of the world,” proclaimed Mississippi in its own secession declaration, passed Jan. 9, 1861. “Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of the commerce of the earth. . . . A blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization.”
The South’s opposition to states’ rights is not surprising. Until the Civil War, Southern presidents and lawmakers had dominated the federal government. The people in power in Washington always oppose states’ rights. Doing so preserves their own.
2. Secession was about tariffs and taxes.
During the nadir of post-civil-war race relations — the terrible years after 1890 when town after town across the North became all-white “sundown towns” and state after state across the South prevented African Americans from voting — “anything but slavery” explanations of the Civil War gained traction. To this day Confederate sympathizers successfully float this false claim, along with their preferred name for the conflict: the War Between the States. At the infamous Secession Ball in South Carolina, hosted in December by the Sons of Confederate Veterans, “the main reasons for secession were portrayed as high tariffs and Northern states using Southern tax money to build their own infrastructure,” The Washington Post reported.
These explanations are flatly wrong. High tariffs had prompted the Nullification Controversy in 1831-33, when, after South Carolina demanded the right to nullify federal laws or secede in protest, President Andrew Jackson threatened force. No state joined the movement, and South Carolina backed down. Tariffs were not an issue in 1860, and Southern states said nothing about them. Why would they? Southerners had written the tariff of 1857, under which the nation was functioning. Its rates were lower than at any point since 1816.
3. Most white Southerners didn’t own slaves, so they wouldn’t secede for slavery.
Indeed, most white Southern families had no slaves. Less than half of white Mississippi households owned one or more slaves, for example, and that proportion was smaller still in whiter states such as Virginia and Tennessee. It is also true that, in areas with few slaves, most white Southerners did not support secession. West Virginia seceded from Virginia to stay with the Union, and Confederate troops had to occupy parts of eastern Tennessee and northern Alabama to hold them in line.
However, two ideological factors caused most Southern whites, including those who were not slave-owners, to defend slavery. First, Americans are wondrous optimists, looking to the upper class and expecting to join it someday. In 1860, many subsistence farmers aspired to become large slave-owners. So poor white Southerners supported slavery then, just as many low-income people support the extension of George W. Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy now.
Second and more important, belief in white supremacy provided a rationale for slavery. As the French political theorist Montesquieu observed wryly in 1748: “It is impossible for us to suppose these creatures [enslaved Africans] to be men; because allowing them to be men, a suspicion would follow that we ourselves are not Christians.” Given this belief, most white Southerners — and many Northerners, too — could not envision life in black-majority states such as South Carolina and Mississippi unless blacks were in chains. Georgia Supreme Court Justice Henry Benning, trying to persuade the Virginia Legislature to leave the Union, predicted race war if slavery was not protected. “The consequence will be that our men will be all exterminated or expelled to wander as vagabonds over a hostile earth, and as for our women, their fate will be too horrible to contemplate even in fancy.” Thus, secession would maintain not only slavery but the prevailing ideology of white supremacy as well.
4. Abraham Lincoln went to war to end slavery.
Since the Civil War did end slavery, many Americans think abolition was the Union’s goal. But the North initially went to war to hold the nation together. Abolition came later.
On Aug. 22, 1862, President Lincoln wrote a letter to the New York Tribune that included the following passage: “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that. What I do about slavery and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union.”
However, Lincoln’s own anti-slavery sentiment was widely known at the time. In the same letter, he went on: “I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free.” A month later, Lincoln combined official duty and private wish in his preliminary Emancipation Proclamation.
White Northerners’ fear of freed slaves moving north then caused Republicans to lose the Midwest in the congressional elections of November 1862.
Gradually, as Union soldiers found help from black civilians in the South and black recruits impressed white units with their bravery, many soldiers — and those they wrote home to — became abolitionists. By 1864, when Maryland voted to end slavery, soldiers’ and sailors’ votes made the difference.
5. The South couldn’t have made it long as a slave society.
Slavery was hardly on its last legs in 1860. That year, the South produced almost 75 percent of all U.S. exports. Slaves were worth more than all the manufacturing companies and railroads in the nation. No elite class in history has ever given up such an immense interest voluntarily. Moreover, Confederates eyed territorial expansion into Mexico and Cuba. Short of war, who would have stopped them — or forced them to abandon slavery?
To claim that slavery would have ended of its own accord by the mid-20th century is impossible to disprove but difficult to accept. In 1860, slavery was growing more entrenched in the South. Unpaid labor makes for big profits, and the Southern elite was growing ever richer. Freeing slaves was becoming more and more difficult for their owners, as was the position of free blacks in the United States, North as well as South. For the foreseeable future, slavery looked secure. Perhaps a civil war was required to end it.
As we commemorate the sesquicentennial of that war, let us take pride this time — as we did not during the centennial — that secession on slavery’s behalf failed.
jloewen@uvm.edu
Sociologist James W. Loewen is the author of “Lies My Teacher Told Me” and co-editor, with Edward Sebesta, of “The Confederate and Neo-Confederate Reader.”
The 1783 Treaty of Paris ended the war between the colonies and Great Britain. Its first article declared the 13 colonies “to be free, sovereign and independent states.” These 13 sovereign nations came together in 1787 as principals and created the federal government as their agent. Principals have always held the right to fire agents. In other words, states held a right to withdraw from the pact — secede.
During the 1787 Constitutional Convention, a proposal was made that would allow the federal government to suppress a seceding state. James Madison rejected it, saying, “A union of the states containing such an ingredient seemed to provide for its own destruction. The use of force against a state would look more like a declaration of war than an infliction of punishment and would probably be considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound.”
In fact, the ratification documents of Virginia, New York and Rhode Island explicitly said they held the right to resume powers delegated should the federal government become abusive of those powers. The Constitution never would have been ratified if states thought they could not regain their sovereignty — in a word, secede.
On March 2, 1861, after seven states seceded and two days before Abraham Lincoln’s inauguration, Sen. James R. Doolittle of Wisconsin proposed a constitutional amendment that read, “No state or any part thereof, heretofore admitted or hereafter admitted into the union, shall have the power to withdraw from the jurisdiction of the United States.”
Several months earlier, Reps. Daniel E. Sickles of New York, Thomas B. Florence of Pennsylvania and Otis S. Ferry of Connecticut proposed a constitutional amendment to prohibit secession. Here’s a question for the reader: Would there have been any point to offering these amendments if secession were already unconstitutional?
On the eve of the War of 1861, even unionist politicians saw secession as a right of states. Rep. Jacob M. Kunkel of Maryland said, “Any attempt to preserve the union between the states of this Confederacy by force would be impractical, and destructive of republican liberty.”
Both Northern Democratic and Republican Parties favored allowing the South to secede in peace. Just about every major Northern newspaper editorialized in favor of the South’s right to secede. New York Tribune (Feb. 5, 1860): “If tyranny and despotism justified the Revolution of 1776, then we do not see why it would not justify the secession of Five Millions of Southrons from the Federal Union in 1861.” Detroit Free Press (Feb. 19, 1861): “An attempt to subjugate the seceded states, even if successful, could produce nothing but evil — evil unmitigated in character and appalling in content.” The New York Times (March 21, 1861): “There is growing sentiment throughout the North in favor of letting the Gulf States go.”
The War of 1861 settled the issue of secession through brute force that cost 600,000 American lives. We Americans celebrate Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address, but H.L. Mencken correctly evaluated the speech: “It is poetry, not logic; beauty, not sense.” Lincoln said the soldiers sacrificed their lives “to the cause of self-determination — that government of the people, by the people, for the people should not perish from the earth.” Mencken says: “It is difficult to imagine anything more untrue. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of people to govern themselves.”
The War of 1861 brutally established that states could not secede. We are still living with its effects. Because states cannot secede, the federal government can run roughshod over the U.S. Constitution’s limitations of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. States have little or no response.
Where did you find those newspaper quotes ? Brilliant. The Detroit Free Press were rather prescient here, weren’t they ?
You are living proof that you just cannot fix stupid. Thanks for the shining example of useful idiot hood.
Bull S***
GreatWarVet –
That is not a very intelligent response. Please tell us what I posted is not accurate.
“Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, Stone wall Jackson or the thousands of other traitors who fought against the United States to keep over millions of blacks enslaved.” NOT TRUE!
It is commonly taught that the War Between the States was about the abolition of slavery. Actually, the impetus for the war was due to a tariff placed on imported goods coming through Southern sea ports by a Northern dominated Congress. This tariff was referred to by Southerners as the Tariff of Abominations and nearly caused South Carolina to secede from the Union. Andrew Jackson threatened to send federal troops to Charleston if South Carolina refused to collect the tariff and send it to Washington. (See “Kearney’s March” by Winston Groom.)
This tariff was used to build roads and bridges in the northern states while the south was left to fend for itself.
Senator William Grayson of Virginia expressed concern that the South would eventually become the “milch cow” of the Union.
When the southern states threatened secession, Lincoln was asked why he didn’t just let the South go. He said: ”Let the South go? Let the South go! Where then shall we get our revenues?”(See “Memoirs of Service Afloat” by Raphael Semmes.)
Abraham Lincoln was a racist who was also guilty of war crimes and is responsible for the deaths of 600,000 Americans.
In 1858, during a debate with Stephen Douglas, Abraham Lincoln said: “I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people….” (Google Lincoln-Douglas debates.)
It is commonly taught that the War Between the States was about the abolition of slavery. Actually, the impetus for the war was due to a tariff placed on imported goods coming through Southern sea ports by a Northern dominated Congress. This tariff was referred to by Southerners as the Tariff of Abominations and nearly caused South Carolina to secede from the Union. Andrew Jackson threatened to send federal troops to Charleston if South Carolina refused to collect the tariff and send it to Washington. (See “Kearney’s March” by Winston Groom.)
This tariff was used to build roads and bridges in the northern states while the south was left to fend for itself.
Senator William Grayson of Virginia expressed concern that the South would eventually become the “milch cow” of the Union.
When the southern states threatened secession, Lincoln was asked why he didn’t just let the South go. He said: ”Let the South go? Let the South go! Where then shall we get our revenues?”(See “Memoirs of Service Afloat” by Raphael Semmes.)
Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation excluded slave states that remained in the Union and certain parishes in Louisiana that were under control of Union troops. It only applied to states in the Confederacy, which was a sovereign nation, over which Lincoln had no legal authority.
Therefore, his proclamation did not free slaves anywhere.
Slaves were eventually freed by passage of the Thirteenth Amendment on December 6th, 1865.
Some of the many atrocities committed by Lincoln’s Union Army are as follows:
Lincoln ordered General Sherman to “make Georgia howl.” So Sherman marched through Georgia burning not only towns, villages, factories and grist mills, but also burning crops, leaving women, children, and the elderly to starve. Sherman captured more than two thousand white women and children who were sent to the North to work at sustenance level pay, making them virtual slaves for the Yankees. They were never returned to their families.
Union Colonel John B. Turchin was court-martialed for letting his troops “plunder and pillage the inhabitants” of Athens, Alabama, and allowing several of his soldiers to commit rape on the person of a colored girl. After being convicted, Turchhin was promoted to the rank of Brigadier General by Abraham Lincoln and continued to serve in the Union Army until Oct 4, 1864.
In Marion County Missouri, Gen. John McNeil threw southern sympathizers in jail for expressing a pro-Southern point of view. When a Union informer came up missing, McNeil threatened to kill ten of these men if the informer did not show up. When the informer didn’t show up, these men were summarily executed. Shortly afterwards, McNeil was promoted to Brigadier General by Lincoln.
In 1862, several tribes of Native Americans revolted against the cruel policies of the United States government. This caused Minnesotans to fear for their safety. General John Pope rounded up 300 warriors, out of which Lincoln selected thirty nine to be executed. These Native Americans were executed to assuage the fears of white Minnesotans so they would vote for the re-election of Lincoln, which they did. (For details of the above and other atrocities, see, “The South was Right” by James and Walter Kennedy.)
By invading The Confederate States of America, a sovereign nation, Lincoln caused the death of 600,000 Americans, not to end slavery but to hold on to power.
I’m really ashamed at what I’m seeing happening to our historical monuments of this country. this should be outraged on a mass scale through out America . the monuments were for the people who fought for what they believed in. One side lost and one side won if you want to call it that. Now we have this bunch of malcontents wanting the way as usual through out America and the country and leaders are committing treason to our historical monuments.
This current tribe of trash should be shot at sunrise in front of their communist inspired leader of MLK for the atrocities they are doing to the monuments and to the rest of the 80 + percent of the people that want the to stay. This is pure terrorist behavior to demand they be removed and for the State and Cities to bow down and kiss the shoes of these black terrorist.
if this continues and the monuments now being destroyed are not replaced or rebuilt and put back in place- I would be for a rally to tear-down every black monument of the like in this country and rename the streets and highways to where they were before they were dis-merged with these communist inspired black so-called hero’s and leaders.
I hope they remember they only have approx. 12 % percent of the population in this country. if the decide to become violent any more than they are now- the country could erupt in a revolt against the black population and that could become nasty really quick.
they think during the civil rights it was bad they have not seen anything that would even come close to matching watch occurred to blacks in the south. I hate to think of the carnage that will occur in the states city’s and towns-there is not enough law enforcement to stop 2 % of the violence toward that group.
I’d hope that better thinking minds of the black leadership in this country would think about the consequences that are about to come to bear on this 12% group . They are pushing the envelope to the max and are going to regret their actions as I see it. cooler heads better prevail before it to late and beyond any return. Things are just simmering and the flash point is still down the road for this country- if this trend does not stop and stop real soon.
I will call the other 80+ % of the populous of this country a cat being pushing into a corner- and always I see the cornered cat coming out and fighting for its life and survival. which all the time ends up in someone or something being hurt or destroyed by the cat in the corner which the cat in the corner is the Americans getting their history changed and torn down by a bunch of welfare fed black anarchist that will not be satisfied until they get their way. And their way might be at their demise of their statues and the own lives. Any American that does not believe in the actions of this 12% minority – should start up anti black statues rallys and demand those of the 60’s which were communist inspired and took communist money for support of their movement should force the city’s and states to remove such history blackened statues of so-called black leaders that rose to fame with communist dollars and guidance.
I see a bad time in the future for the 12 % – they can’t have the caddy’s and the 26 inch wheels and tires. 12 tv’s in the Escalades and the fur coats at football and basketball games in the 100 degree heat.
all that will be gone and they will have to go to work and pay for that crap with their own money and not the states and governmental hand outs. And they will have to support their street corner drug business on their own money instead of the tax payers of this country.
I see blood running in the streets curb deep real soon if the black leaders don’t instruct their tribal community leaders to settle down and preserve their (human?) lives of the 12% doing this.
What i think would be funny – would be to ship this 12 % to a front line war zone for a couple of days and let them get a sense of what the people in these country’s are having to deal with on a daily basis. They would be in a hurry to repatriate themselves and go back home where they are still safe to roam the streets and rob, steal, sell drugs and be ” BABY DADDY’S AND MOMMIES OF 19 AND WITH 17 DIFFERENT NAMES AND PARENTS. OVER HERE THEY ARE LUCKY TO HAVE 17 DIFFERENT BABY DADDY’S OR MOMMIES LEFT TO CHOOSE FROM. STUPID ASSZ BUNCH OF SUB HUMANS!!!
By Test of Arms they were proven to be Traitors a point more and more people are hearing.
Lest we forget, the Confederate States of America had seceded from the U.S.(something California wants to do now) and was a sovereign nation fighting FOR its own soil and mostly ON its own soil. You cannot be a traitor fighting FOR your own nation.
Typical California liberal double talk bull chit. You want out bye bye.
So true,
http://www.newsmax.com/JamesWalsh/Sanctuary-Cities-immigrant-Trump/2015/07/09/id/654187/ Note the author was with the immigration service. and http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2010/07/sanctuary-cities-immune-federal-law/ Plenty more in this vein. So if you defy the Federal Government you commit treason . What are Sanctuary cities doing ? Surely your patriotic fervour should be stirred by these open acts of treason, aided and abetted by your previous president ? Innocent citizens are being killed by their defiance.
The 1783 Treaty of Paris ended the war between the colonies and Great Britain. Its first article declared the 13 colonies “to be free, sovereign and independent states.” These 13 sovereign nations came together in 1787 as principals and created the federal government as their agent. Principals have always held the right to fire agents. In other words, states held a right to withdraw from the pact — secede.
During the 1787 Constitutional Convention, a proposal was made that would allow the federal government to suppress a seceding state. James Madison rejected it, saying, “A union of the states containing such an ingredient seemed to provide for its own destruction. The use of force against a state would look more like a declaration of war than an infliction of punishment and would probably be considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound.”
In fact, the ratification documents of Virginia, New York and Rhode Island explicitly said they held the right to resume powers delegated should the federal government become abusive of those powers. The Constitution never would have been ratified if states thought they could not regain their sovereignty — in a word, secede.
On March 2, 1861, after seven states seceded and two days before Abraham Lincoln’s inauguration, Sen. James R. Doolittle of Wisconsin proposed a constitutional amendment that read, “No state or any part thereof, heretofore admitted or hereafter admitted into the union, shall have the power to withdraw from the jurisdiction of the United States.”
Several months earlier, Reps. Daniel E. Sickles of New York, Thomas B. Florence of Pennsylvania and Otis S. Ferry of Connecticut proposed a constitutional amendment to prohibit secession. Here’s a question for the reader: Would there have been any point to offering these amendments if secession were already unconstitutional?
On the eve of the War of 1861, even unionist politicians saw secession as a right of states. Rep. Jacob M. Kunkel of Maryland said, “Any attempt to preserve the union between the states of this Confederacy by force would be impractical, and destructive of republican liberty.”
Both Northern Democratic and Republican Parties favored allowing the South to secede in peace. Just about every major Northern newspaper editorialized in favor of the South’s right to secede. New York Tribune (Feb. 5, 1860): “If tyranny and despotism justified the Revolution of 1776, then we do not see why it would not justify the secession of Five Millions of Southrons from the Federal Union in 1861.” Detroit Free Press (Feb. 19, 1861): “An attempt to subjugate the seceded states, even if successful, could produce nothing but evil — evil unmitigated in character and appalling in content.” The New York Times (March 21, 1861): “There is growing sentiment throughout the North in favor of letting the Gulf States go.”
The War of 1861 settled the issue of secession through brute force that cost 600,000 American lives. We Americans celebrate Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address, but H.L. Mencken correctly evaluated the speech: “It is poetry, not logic; beauty, not sense.” Lincoln said the soldiers sacrificed their lives “to the cause of self-determination — that government of the people, by the people, for the people should not perish from the earth.” Mencken says: “It is difficult to imagine anything more untrue. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of people to govern themselves.”
The War of 1861 brutally established that states could not secede. We are still living with its effects. Because states cannot secede, the federal government can run roughshod over the U.S. Constitution’s limitations of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. States have little or no response.
I’m a born Yankee–but I’ve also STUDIED American History. The Confederate Army was NOT composed of “slave holders”——it was NOT composed of “White Supremacists”———-it was NOT composed of “Racists”———– it WAS composed of people————people who felt (then) that the Federal Government was badly over-reaching in it’s efforts to “control the country, the states, the peoples, and their actions”. This same sentiment holds true today———and it’s the DEMOCRATS———-IN BOTH CASES———–whose actions both aid and abet these unconstitutional powergrabs.
Thank you!
Your sources are screwed up. Keep studying and get different sources.
YOU go back to your basement and play with your play dough “snowflake”. This statement IS true (unless you “study” the attempts by the “progressive COMMUNISTS that have been trying desperately to change our history to make THEMSELVES look better)..SORRY pal… isn’t working. Still some people out there that went to school BEFORE the “progressive communists” changed the textbooks in THEIR favor. SO go away TROLL.
With the advent of the www you can get a hundred different versions of history at your fingertips, slanted by the author’s personal prejudice, the agenda of the group paying for the revision, national, religious, ideological influence, the winning side’s justification. The only true source is from the participants of that moment… historic documents, letters from humans in various arenas at the time. There are plenty of them available. The last, (verified by records ) Confederate soldier died in 1951. To put that in perspective, I was a child of 5 then. The point being this is not ancient history. Children, grandchildren are the living voices of the participants, both sides. Put this all together, you get some approximation of reality. That is what most credible historians do. What they should not do, is condemn people of 151 years ago by Human Rights legislation 2016 and obliterate (part of ) your history because it does not fit your doctrine. That ugly, insane rationale puts you on a par with ISIL. But if another Civil War ( Right vs. Left ) is the real motivation, you are surely heading in the right direction.
Correct!!
Amen true true….but HOW can you get the truth out and into these libtards what they are doing, listening to IS WRONG???? You can’t….they’ve been brained washed and branded by the WRONG teachers in the public schools to collage. I think and feel what the school boards need to do is DRAIN THEIR SWAMPS!!!!!!!! Hire a NEW Administration that thinks and feels the way WE THE PEOPLE think, then hire NEW teachers, professor’s that feel that the students are being taught the WRONG American history. If Trump can drain the swamp in DC, then I think/feel that NOW it’s time that Americans people/parents /grandparents ALL come together and DRAIN THE SWAMP in the school districts and Universities. WE/ YOU pay taxes to support and fund them so YOU have a voice…USE IT!!!!! WE/YOU used it this past November NOW use it again!!!!! If you dont…ALL is lost….ALL is GONE!!!!!! USE YOUR VOICE!!!!!!
Anyone alive today who was a slave,themself has a right to complain about anyone alive today who kept slaves,otherwise I refuse to be blamed for something that happened over 4 hundred years before anyone alive today was born,I think that slavery is very wrong and would never try to inslave another person,so,just why do they blame me for it? I can assure you that I had no more to do with it than the ones who are spreading their hatred and violence today towards all whites did.
We had a Civil War over the issue because MANY did not agree with slavery, so why is this still coming up as though black slavery is a CURRENT issue? (It isn’t, human trafficking is.) The problem is many (certainly not all) in the black community are too busy whining instead of pulling themselves up and making something of themselves. The Confederate Democrats will keep the black community down and begging for handouts. That is a fact. LBJ made that abundantly clear with his very famous speech. Is racism alive and well today? Yes. On ALL SIDES. Everyone is being sucked into this horrendous issue that is going to get a lot more people killed before it is over. That is the globalist goal. To cause instability in our communities. And they’re succeeding because only the individual can decide for themselves not to enter into racism. I have to fight the draw daily because we have been continually bullied and harassed for being our color. Oh well, I refuse to take the easy way and hate back. That is EXACTLY what the enemy wants.
Simply_Sis –
The reason the issue of slavery keeps coming up is you have a bunch of Confederate apologists in this forum, like Pineapple and Mary Blood, and all over the south, who want to deny or re-write history and keep insisting that the Civil War was not about slavery, but about States Rights. They want to white-wash the brutality of slavery and try and make it seem by enslaving blacks, slave-owners were actually helping them.
Just read Pineapple’s nonsense here.
It is not just slavery; however the statues are of people who rebelled against the United States.
The globalists plan is to incite as much violence and killing as possible. Then the govt will take away all firearms. When the guns are gone, it is over. The glbalist will rule and there will be nothing to stop them.
What????????????
Can’t read, try schooling!! In a nut shell, she and her family tree, just like mine, NEVER owned a slave and THEREFORE DON’T owe any Black a dime! They should STOP Beitching!
Now the Blacks of today HAVE NEVER been a slave so they should just STFU!!
MYSELF AND OTHER WHITES AREN’T RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED 400 YEARS AGO!!!! JUST LIKE THEY AREN’T “RECENTLY” FREED SLAVES!!
Got it…agree!
Hear, hear!!!
Many people today are more impacted by the Jim Crow period then slavery. Study the laws of 1870 until 1960. Many people were denied many things because they were black.
Not many people hate every white, just those whites that impact them negatively.
STOP THE JEWISH MAFIA NAZI SUPREMACIST MEDIA’S WHO HATE AMERICA!
This has to be the absolute stupidest, not to mention racist and anti-Semitic message, in this group yet. Israel is America’s strongest supporter in the Middle-East.
Remember it was 15 Saudi young men, all Muslims, who attacked America on 9-11.
If I posted anti-Semitic crap like this, I wouldn’t use my name.
EXECUTE ALL ANTI AMERICAN PIG NAZI SUPREMACIST BLACKMAILING AMERICA. HITLER WAS NOT TOTALLY CRAZY.
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YOU ARE A LIAR! ISRAEL IS A SHIT HOLE OCCUPIED BY THE DEVIL.
ISRAEL THE WHOREHOUSE OF THE MIDDLE EAST.
SOUND JUST LIKE QUEER PERVERTED JEWISH HOLLYWOOD.
STOP THE JEWS AND SAVE AMERICA! THEIR ROBBING AND KILLING THE USA.
Today, Israel lives up to her name as an international hub of prostitution and white slavery in the Mideast.
Amnesty International, in its 2005 Report on Discrimination Against Women in Israel says:
Trafficking of women for forced prostitution has occurred over a number of years but appears to have been compounded in the past 15 years by several factors, including increased links between traffickers in Israel and former Soviet republics, in the wake of the large wave of immigration of citizens of these countries to Israel…
…Many women are lured to work in Israel under false pretense and are then forced into the sex industry. While many are reportedly aware that they will be working as sex workers, they are not aware they will be subject to violent and exploitative environments, working seven days a week and up to 18 hours a day for extremely low salaries or no salaries at all. Many are subjected to other serious human rights violations, including rape, deprivation of their liberty, and debt-bondage. Women forced to work as sex workers are reportedly also frequently subjected to threats of abuse and even murder. Half the women interviewed by the Hotline for Migrant Workers were effectively incarcerated by their “pimps” and, according to a 2003 survey, almost half of all women “sold” to pimps reported that policemen were among their clients.
According to a report by the Parliamentary Committee of Inquiry on the Trafficking in Women (Summary Report) issued in early 2005, some 3,000 to 5,000 women are brought annually into Israel and forced to work as sex workers and some 10,000 were estimated to be currently in the country…
Most of the women known to have been trafficked into Israel are from Ukraine, Moldova, Uzbekistan, and Russia, and are brought into Israel through the Egyptian-Israeli border. In the course of their journey, many are reportedly raped before traffickers sell them for $8,000-$10,000… 1
Jewish Michael Specter, in his article, “Slave Traders Lure Slavic Women,” confirms Amnesty’s report:
[In Israel] police officials estimate that there are 25,000 paid sexual transactions everyday. Brothels are ubiquitous…Once they [the women] cross the border [into Israel] their passports will be confiscated [by pimps], their freedoms curtailed, and what little money they have taken from them…The Tropicana in Tel Aviv’s bustling business district, is one of the busiest bordellos. The women who work there, like nearly all prostitutes in Israel today, are Russian. Their bosses, however, are not. ‘Israelis love Russian girls,’ said Jacob Golan, who owns this and two other clubs, ‘….They are blond and good-looking and different than us…And they are desperate. They are ready to do anything for money.’ 2
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I just reported Isrealand blocked that hateful crap..
Hear, hear!!
One must retreat to the library and read. Or use Google more fruitfully. No one is more brain washed then individuals who go by “word of mouth”.
I disagree except with your parting comment about Democrats making unconstitutional powergrabs. I am sorry, but you clearly got your American history education from the liberal educational system. They have been rewriting history for decades, so I am not surprised you are so far off base with your understanding of the facts. As another writer stated, you should check out some other sources. Something the liberal left love to do is rewrite history. They don’t tell the truth about anything, and there is a reason for that. You have to remove people from their history in order to take them over. This is a well-planned, long time in coming overthrow-America agenda. With America strong they cannot implement their NWO agenda.
Regarding this particular issue, America had a Civil War over slavery and while not all Confederates were racist or slaveholders, many were. And they wanted to keep it that way. They would even steal black citizens who were legal Americans (yes, not all black people were slaves, especially in the North) and force them into slavery, destroying their documents that proved they were freemen. That, to me, is the exact same attitude these Confederate Democrat globalist operatives have today. Exactly the same. Fast forward to today and the current goal is to enslave us all for their NWO agenda. That was their final destination all along. The NWO is for the anti-Christ to come on the scene and be the world’s one leader straight into hell.
This is the ultimate goal. For people to worship the anti-Christ as god on earth. He will show many signs that will convince people he is god. He isn’t. He will require that you take a Mark Of The Beast because you will not be able to buy or sell without it. In fact, you will be put to death for not taking it. Probably beheaded (Islam will be the One World Religion), but before that most likely tortured and or raped, etc. You will STILL have the opportunity to call on Jesus for salvation. But you will have to suffer at the anti-Christ’s hands because you rejected Jesus Christ here and now. Right now salvation is the free gift of Jesus Christ. He offers it to all who repent of their sins and receive Him as their Lord and Savior. There is no salvation other than through the name of Jesus Christ. All else are lies. Keep this in mind if you are rejecting Him right now. You will have opportunity again, if you live, to call on Jesus. Your eternal destiny depends on it. Heaven or hell. Those are everyone’s choices. Choose you this day whom you will serve. Choose wisely. I pray God speaks to your hearts as you read this. Jesus is SPECTACULAR!
THE JEWISH NAZI SUPREMACIST MEDIA EMPIRE ARE THE CAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS WE SEE IN AMERICA TODAY!
WE SHOULD EXECUTE THESE ANTI AMERICAN ANTI CHRIST NAZI KILLER JEWS!
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AMEN & a Hallelujah
undouble: You are absolutely correct here! The purpose of Antifa [serving as “useful idiots”] is to tear down America’s history so that they can create still more propaganda for the masses. We have now Kindergarten classes being taught that transgenderism is fine. It is, of course, a recognized mental illness which is treatable. The problem often is that those so disposed do not want to be treated, which is okay until AIDS enters the picture. President Trump is blocking this in the military and, naturally, the far left is completely bent out of shape. Their goal, of course, is to make evil appear to be good.
It was Thomas Jefferson who said that our constitutional republic will depend upon an informed electorate. The Communists, who have taken over the Democratic Party, are pushing as hard as they can to misrepresent everything about America that they can find to misrepresent. General Robert E. Lee was a highly decorated and honorable soldier of the Union Army. President Lincoln even called upon him to take over its command after he had retired in 1858. They disagreed amiably over the State’s Rights issue, since many of the abolitionists were overreaching way beyond the American concept of government, as it was constituted by the Founding Fathers. Lincoln was in essential agreement, but was faced with the problem of controlling the congressional extremists of the time.
A problem we have nationally, which Lincoln did not have, is the media which is, rightly or wrongly, pounding the table for complete governmental control over everyone’s lives, particularly the productive middle class. What they do not realize is that they will be among the first ones muzzled, if the Communists get their way. And, if anyone thinks my use of the term “Communists” is hyperbolic, it would be most interesting to know that 3 out of the 4 young people arrested in Boston recently during that fracas were active Communists. That viewpoint is being encouraged in our colleges and universities with the attack on free speech.
The American people need to get some backbone and soon.
I do not believe there was a term racists in 1860s. There were feeling of superiority. It was the intent of the south to deny the black equal opportunities. When slaves wee freed they normally had to leave their homes. It is true the majority of soldiers were poor whites with rich officer.
It was not possible for the federal government to over-reach because the south had more votes then the north. You need to restudy the period.
The south wanted to become independent of the north, take over the western states and Mexico and have a “Great Nation”. They would have defeated the north if the French and English would not have supported the north.
The status should go into museums and not be on public display and they should be privately maintained.
But Mary these people you call “these animals” are exactly carrying on the so-called proud tradition of the Confederacy. I just read a few things I did not know about the supposed honorable General Robert E. Lee.
The Myth of the Kindly General Lee – The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/the-myth-of-the-kindly-general-lee/529038/
The legend of the Confederate leader’s heroism and decency is based in the fiction of a person who never existed.
When Confederate troops invaded Pennsylvania, leading to the battle of Gettysburg, Confederate troops kidnapped free blacks in the north and took them back to the south as slaves.
When white soldiers fighting the Confederates were captured they were routinely sent to prison camps. When black soldiers fighting the Confederates were captured they were often executed.
When prisoner exchanges were to take place, Lee refused to consider including northern black soldiers.
The Myth of the Kindly General Lee – The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/the-myth-of-the-kindly-general-lee/529038/
I challenge you to find one “kind” thing the left is doing today. I also challenge you to find one “kind” thing about the South, which you say is your native land and which you so malign daily.
You took the words right out of my mouth
Don’t compare these heathen with the Confederacy..
I’m planning a trip to the Gettysburg Battleground and Cemetery before the end of summer.
If the rabid left attempts to desecrate this sacred ground, I predict a backlash that will be reminiscent of the battle there in 1863.
The Gettysburg Battleground National Park has said they will not take down any monuments nor tolerate any BS by the leftwing loons. I, for one, was glad to hear their rejection of this BS. I am tired of the anarchists (including Bill Deblazio in NY and those that kowtow to them) who want to destroy this country. What happened in the past, the history of this country made us who we are: all of us including the nut jobs. I have a bit of advice for them. If you don’t like it here, if it doesn’t suit your sensibilities, move out of this country lock, stock and barrel and do it immediately!
They(the so called LEFT LIBERAL LOONIES) will not move out; they, by George Soros backing want to change/destroy America; become Socialist Amerika; its the $$$$ from Soros that is doing it by backing these groups; most of them in these groups R ignorant, downright thugs, of which the Democrats could care less….follow the money.
I really wish they would leave; but why should they leave their freebies???
If we the people vote these RINO’s out of office , just maybe President Trump can advance his promises.
You have a point with ‘freebies’! Just a couple of notes here: First, the Democrats want to expand the ‘freebies’ offer and, the second, Arizona took a notable action! They put out the law: You can get ‘food stamps, etc’ for 9 weeks. Then, you have to have a job. No extensions. (That doesn’t include the disabled, of course) Amazingly, most of the Muslim population of that state packed up and left!! Does that tell us anything? Just a thought— where did they go? Did they move to ‘your state’? Are you supporting these ‘Christian haters’ now? Perhaps we need that same law in those states as well. There are a growing number of job openings now with no ‘takers’!!
Very good points to watch out for!
I agree. Why Russia hasn’t demanded Soros and family to be deported to them I will never know. Probably the lefties protecting him. It would be nice if the “freebees” were for citizens who WORK for them. I will be looking to vote out Demorats and RINOs out of office. Unfortunately, the Republican Party in my state are wimpy, ineffective and, dare I say it, lazy?
TREAR DOWN NAACP- TEAR DOWN BLACK MUSEUM IN WASHINGTON DC.- SHUT DOWN BLACK ENTERTAINMENT TV- GET RID OF RAINBOW COALITION-GET THE ABC SHOW “BLACKISH ” OFF THE AIR.
LAST WEEK 50 PEOPLE SHOT IN CHICAGO AND NO CONFEDERATE FLAGS OR STATUES! READ BELOW ABOUT 100 SHOOTINGS IN ONE WEEKEND.
Chicago police express frustration after more than 100 shot in violent Fourth of …
Chicago Tribune › news › local › breaking
AMP – Jul 6, 2017 – The Chicago Police Department says it is conducting “a very comprehensive review” after the city experienced one of its most violent Fourth of July weekends in recent years, with at least 102 people shot between late Friday afternoon and early Wednesday. … At least 74 people were …
WATTS. FERGUSON BALTIMORE ???
More Than 100 Shot in Chicago During Long Fourth of July Weekend | U.S. News …
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Jul 5, 2017 – More than 100 people were shot, and more than a dozen people died during the … It Was a Violent Weekend in Chicago.
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It is past time for black america to look at itself and make some very serious changes. Thug life style is not cool, or good for your kids. Or your country. Get over past issues, and join the workers and families.
before anyone goes to work the Confederate memorials must come down. Then Washington and Jefferson. Then someone will read Lincoln’s inaugural address. He’s out! Statue of Liberty. She’s white. Gone!
Do not fool yourself. It will never change. Thanks LBJ, you moron.
AMERICA FIRST
LBJ WAS A TRAITOR LIKE JOHN MCCAINS FATHER! WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT SUFFERING FROM JEWISH CANCER. EXECUTE ALL ANTI AMERICAN TRAITORS IN OUR GOV.
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The Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty — Paul Craig Roberts
Tattered flags show ferocity of the attacks
The Israelis claim the Liberty flew no flag, but two US flags full of holes from the attack exist. When the first flag was shot down, crewmen replaced it with a flag 7 feet by 13 feet. This flag with its battle scars is on display at NSA headquarters at Ft. Mead, Maryland.
Admiral John S. McCain Jr., the father of the current US senator, ordered Admiral Isaac C. Kidd and Captain Ward Boston to hold a court of inquiry and to complete the investigation in only one week.
In a signed affidavit Captain Boston said President Johnson ordered a cover-up and that he and Admiral Kidd were prevented from doing a real investigation.
Liberty survivors were ordered never to speak to anyone about the event. Their silence was finally broken 12 years later when Lt. Commander James M. Ennes published his book, Assault on the Liberty.
It is now established fact that the attack on the Liberty was intentional and was covered up by President Johnson and every administration since.
There has never been a congressional investigation, nor has the testimony of the majority of survivors ever been officially taken. Moreover, testimony that conflicted with the cover-up was deleted from the official record.
It won’t change. No time soon, anyway. Look at Africa, and how things work there. Tearing down statues is silly. Never seemed to bother anyone before. It’s a new, manufactured for the moment thing.
People are fools. Violent fools.
STOP THE JEWISH MONEY FUNDING THEIR MOVEMENT IN AMERICA
GEE! Just another “Day In The Park, in Chicago! Good Job, Mr. Mayor! Ya’ know, pretty soon, there won’t BE anymore killing’s in Chicago, coz, ALL of them will be dead! But, “oh” Rahm! YOU are “The Man’, just like your Mentor, Bamy! Correct? GOOD JOB! Let “YOUR PEOPLE” continue to be MURDERED!
DO NOT FORGET PENNY PRITZKER A CROOKED FILTHY ROTTEN CHICAGO JEW WHO HATES AMERICA. SHE LOVE BUCKWHEAT QUEER COCAINE OBAMA!
EXECUTE ALL OF AMERICA ENEMIES.
STOP THE NAZI JEWISH SUPREMACIST ANTI AMERICAN. QUEERS !
HOLLYWOOD GARBAGE LIKE QUEER DISNEY HAVE TO GO!
Disney Channel Is Now Teaching Homosexuality To Children, Christians In …
Walid Shoebat › Featured › General
Mar 5, 2017 – Disney is now teaching homosexuality to children, and good …. Disney has been promoting this crap for decades. …. You will dowhat “you” want, which is the credo of the …
Disney slammed for ‘homosexual’ and ‘bestiality’ agenda in Frozen
Sydney Morning Herald › au
Mar 14, 2014 – Disney slammed for ‘ homosexual’ and ‘bestiality’ agenda in …. “If I was the devil, what would I do to really foul up an entire …
I am not one for censorship, but for you I would make an exception.
How about all the fake JEWISH news? How about the JEWISH news that would exposes criminals that’s withheld from the American People? Example Obama homosexuality and his use of cocaine . The deal the Obama’s made in Canada involving bad corrupt healthcare
HEY FBI THIS IS CORRUPTION ALL THE WAY! NO BID CONTRACT AND AWARDED TO A FOREIGN COMPANY? WHY ISN’T THIS INVESTIGATED?
Revealed: Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is top executive at firm that that built disastrous Obamacare website after being awarded no-bid $93m contract
Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is an executive at the company that built Obamacare website
Toni Townes-Whitley is senior vice president at CGI Federal which earned contract to build the site. She joined in May 2010
The women are both members of the Association of Black Princeton Alumni
The Department of Health and Human Services reviewed only CGI’s bid for the Obamacare account even though four companies submitted bids
CGI became an approved government vendor in 2007
The Obama administration has been accused of cronyism after it was revealed Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is an executive at the company contracted to build the beleaguered Obamacare website.
Toni Townes-Whitley is senior vice president at CGI Federal, the U.S. arm of a Canadian company which won the no-bid contract for the problem-plagued website.
Townes-Whitley, from the Princeton class of ’85, and Michelle Obama are members of the Association of Black Princeton Alumni, according to The Daily Caller.
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What’s the matter the real truth scares you? I concider Walt Disney Co to be one of the most Anti American Jewish Control Companies in America if not the World. Disney help destroy Florida and California!
Six Jewish Companies Control 96% of the World’s Media | – The Tap Blog
TapNewsWire › 2015/10 › six-jewish-co…
Oct 17, 2015 – Facts of Jewish Media Control. The largest media conglomerate today is Walt Disney Company, whose chairman and CEO, …
Disney and the Jews: Eisner and His Kind Must Stop Harming Our Children …
nationalvanguard.org › 2016/08 › disney…
Aug 28, 2016 – WE’VE SPOKEN about the Jewish control of the news and … when the Walt Disney company paid $19 billion to take control of …
Disney Channel Is Now Teaching Homosexuality To Children, Christians In …
Walid Shoebat › Featured › General
Mar 5, 2017 – Disney is now teaching homosexuality to children, and good …. Disney has been promoting this crap for decades. …. You will dowhat “you” want, which is the credo of the …
Disney slammed for ‘homosexual’ and ‘bestiality’ agenda in Frozen
Sydney Morning Herald › au
Mar 14, 2014 – Disney slammed for ‘ homosexual’ and ‘bestiality’ agenda in …. “If I was the devil, what would I do to really foul up an entire …
Israeli government to refugees: Go back to Africa or go to prison – The Washington Post
Washington Post › world › 2015/05/14
AMP – May 14, 2015 – The new measures to press the Africans to leave Israel come at a time … Yonatan Jakubowicz of the Israeli ImmigrationPolicy Center, a think … I tell them try to stay.
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You’re a either a paranoid psycho, Nazis, Muslim or a concoction of all three. Keep a close eye out, the Massad is only a step or two behind you.🕵 Lol
I have been around long enough to see the deliberate destruction of America and our society! Many in our crooked useless government should be executed for changing our laws and breeding corruption.THEY NEED TO DIE ALONG WITH THE TRAITORS SELLING OUT OUR COUNTRY AND PEOPLE!
During his two terms in office, President George W. Bush made 330 judicial appointments.[1] He nominated three individuals to the Supreme Court, but only had two confirmed: Chief Justice John G. Roberts and Samuel Alito. Harriet Miers withdrew her nomination before the confirmation process began.
For a full list of the President Bush’s nominees, see: Federal judges nominated by George W. Bush. For archived information from The White House on his nominees, see: The White House President George W. Bush.
During his term in office, President George H.W. Bush made 194 judicial appointments.[1] He nominated (and had confirmed) two justices of the Supreme Court: David Souter and Clarence Thomas.
For a full list of the President Bush’s nominees, see: Federal judges nominated by George H.W. Bush.
During his two terms in office, President Bill Clinton made 379 judicial appointments.[1] Among those were two justices nominated (and confirmed) to the Supreme Court: Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer.
For a full list of the President Clinton’s nominees, see: Federal judges nominated by Bill Clinton.
During his two terms in office, President Barack Obama made 333 judicial appointments.[1] He nominated three individuals to serve as justices of the Supreme Court of the United States, but only had two confirmed: Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan. Merrick Garland, President Obama’s last nominee to the Supreme Court, had no action taken in the U.S. Senate on his nomination.
For a full list of President Obama’s nominees, see: Federal judges nominated by Barack Obama.
TRUMP ONLY ONE!
As this is his first term, President Donald Trump is still appointing judges to serve on the federal courts. So far, he has nominated Judge Neil Gorsuch to the U.S. Supreme Court.
For a full list of the president’s nominees, see: Federal judges nominated by Donald Trump.
Of course most of America agreed with Trump.
But what I don’t understand is why is this administration letting it happen?
There isn’t anything that will lift blacks except blacks, can’t believe we have been beating this drum for my whole life about these people that are just different then others.
I look at the cities in this country that are controlled by blacks and they are a cesspool of crime, filth, violence and drugs.
Everything they touch goes to shit!!
When all of the illegal aliens are thrown out of the inner cities, there will be many jobs open to the Black community. Wages will rise. Getting back to work and off of public welfare will be a major step forward. It gives a human being a sense of pride, and a goal to improve one’s position through working your way up.
Trump is trying to bring jobs back to America. When he asked “what have the DNC lot really done to improve your lives?” He asked a very relevant and logical question.
I love your belief’s, BUT, I must state, that you are totally mistaken. I do not want illegal alien’s, in our Country, either,-BUT-they Work”! Yes, if they were removed, there would be hundred’s of job openings-BUT, your thinking, that, those opening’s, would be filled, by the Black Community, is TOTALLY, False! Illegal’s, WORK! Black’s, LIVE, “OFF the SYSTEM”-For Generation’s! They are NOT going to do the work “Illegal’s” do! In fact, THEY don’t “WORK”, at all! They get Welfare!
Thanks to LBJ.
So true.
‘Of course most of America agreed with Trump.’
I guess that’s why his approval ratings are so high
Yes ratings they are real dependable.
You didn’t learn yet…fake news!
Totally fake lying news.
Harold, Harold Harold. Those are the same polls that led your queen, Rachel Maddof, to proclaim, “Even if Trump wins all of those rust belt states, he still has no path to victory.”
AMERICA FIRST
Did you mean Racheal MadCow of msnbc
Look, the democrats supported the confederacy, they erected the monuments and statues in their honor, and now they are blaming Trump and every other conservative for it. There is not a nation in the world that didn’t make mistakes. There is not a nation in the world that doesn’t have skeletons in its closet. So the dems need to stop using the blacks, as they have for decades, let them off the plantation, and let’s start building this nation up instead of tearing it down.
the dems will manufacture those skeletons
To no avail.
When the Nazis came to power in Germany they took down and destroyed all of the statues that offended them.
Sound familiar?
AMERICA FIRST
Actually Nazis were White Supremacists like those protesting taking the statues down so you”re confusing your history.
No, he isn’t. He is pointing out the method used. Doesn’t matter what ideology uses such methods, the results are the same. Destroy a nation’s history you destroy the nation.
Well put.
Thank you Valor. Well said.
So Germans to honor their history should have statues of Hitler and Goebbels in their town squares?
Thanks for the stupidity moron.
Obviously Harold is one of the ignorant leftists who is bend on destroying the great US.
You are the moron. Do you not see where this will lead? Soon, all paintings on buildings, all syreet signs, all statues of martin luther king are going to be destoyed. Right or wrong, this is what will happen if the extremists keep pushing for something that is meaningless in helping their cause. Does it make sense to you to destroy a country if you think you are being slighted by it in a minute way? There will be no freedom here if there is no country here. When you discover rats in your house, do you tear down the house to get rid of them? Maybe you do, but i do not. I try to be a little more intelligent than that.
Well said.
Germans I know (at least the conservative ones) are so ashamed of Hitler, hanging their heads in shame as they softly speak of the atrocities. They want nothing to do with Nazi Germany and never forget the crimes committed. To my knowledge, they do not honor Hitler nor Goebbels in their public places.
The American Civil War was about differences between the free and slave states over the power of the national government to prohibit slavery in a country where freedom of speech is sacred. Hitler’s Germany had a vision of conquest of other independent countries and the extermination of Jews thus the venue and principles are totally different.
The japanese are teaching that their involvement in WWII was the fault of the USA, AND that the atrocities they committed didn’t happen.
My father and uncles fought in that war and my aunt was also in the military. They were opposed to the Nazis and the Japanese attack. But the use of the Weapons of Mass Destruction was also totally wrong as it killed tens of thousands of innocent victims and maimed countless others. It was a Democrat who ordered the dropping of the bombs and I though it was wrong. Nuclear weapons are not the answer.
The USA didn’t start that War, & thousands of people would have died, if the War had gone on longer. War is stupid, but if you have to be in one, go to WIN, not play games like they have ever since The Korean Conflict. Ever since then there have only been Political Wars, & our Military isn’t allowed to win.
I never agree with the use of WMDs period.
you may never agree with it, but an enemy with said capability wouldn’t hesitate, particularly if they knew there would be no repercussions
Contrary to what you may think, the use of the A-bombs on Japan saved far more innocent victims lives than they actually accounted for. Our fire bombing campaign on Japanese cities actually accounted for more loss of life. It is widely accepted by experts that an invasion of the Japanese Islands could well have led to as many as 2 million casualties for the Japanese as well as half a million to a million U.S. casualties. Does this mean I support the use of Nuclear Weapons? No I do not, but this was a case of it being the best option at that time in history and it most certainly was the answer.
So you would have prefered an invasion of Japan and the war dragging on for another 3-4, or more, years, with millions more dying, on both sides? If the bomb had not been dropped there is a very good chance your father and uncles, along with 100’s of thousands of other US servicemen would never have come home…
They were fighting soldiers of war and not women and children who were innocent and didn’t need to die. I never believe in WMDs. One could argue the same for Saddam Hussein and all of those he gassed to end the war with Iran. We need to stop being hypocrites.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were major military targets, that is why they were chosen.
You have never bothered to read any of the history of Japan and WWII, have you?
Japan intended to fight to the last man, woman and child. They were arming civilians, of all ages and sexes with makeshift weapons, even to sharpened bamboo stakes.
The populace had been brainwashed with stories about how the white devils would not even bother to kill them before they ate them. These people would commit suicide before surrendering.
Read the history of the battle of okinawa an d the LARGE number of suicides because of the fear of Americans that had been pounded into their brains.
TRY to understand the warrior culture of the Japanese, AT THE TIME.
I doubt that you will ever understand how ignorant you really are with nonsense posts like this.
Dropping the nukes on Japan cost less than 200,000 lives and saved more than that in American lies alone, and probably millions of Japanese lives.
I think the only thing that is ignorant is in the use of WMDs and then trying to hold other countries to a higher standard. You sir believe everything you read from mythological sources.
Unfortunately, most of the German population was well aware of the madness that surrounded them, but like our present day political situation , Americans are listening to the MSM and indentifying with their distorted views of the Trump presidency.
The LIBERAL Establishment is unable to accept the results of a legitimate election and are trying to overturn it.
This spells bad news for future generations and it’s unfortunate that you don’t recognize it.
I agree with most of what you said but the civil war was not only about slavery. A good number of the confederacy did not believe in slavery. Their was also an economic component of the civil war and brothers and cousins were sometimes on the other side of each other. It was really a tragedy, a tragedy I hope is not repeated.
I’m not saying that all confederates were on the right side of law and human decency, but Robert E Lee did not agree with slavery. He helped free slaves and even established illegal schools to educate them. Pulling down his statue is actually a miscarriage of justice. I think people who are for removing REL’s statue need to be educated. Calling them names does not educate them. Pointing out facts supporting the claim from a reliable nonpartisan source does however.
Thank you for your feedback well as your respectful tone. Something all too often missing here. I’m aware that Robert E Lee did not agree with slavery and helped free slaves. He was an honorable man but did fight in a conflict that divided our nation on the side that sought to have slavery be a state’s rights issue rather than a human right’s one. His descendants have openly come out and expressed acceptance of the need to remove his statue in order to heal and help our country move on from its past as they believe he would have wanted.
First they came for your statues and no one defended them.
Next they’ll come for you and American loving patriots will do
nothing to stop them.
If you’re unable to see the madness in this insane movement, you deserve
the fate you have chosen
Some of the folks here are respectful and some are not. I won’t mention names as I think we both know who is not.
Since when do these anti-american thugs care about facts, IF they were willing to listen in the first place.
That’s the problem. You just don’t make an effort to have a friendly discourse and exchange facts. If you settled your differences instead of berating each other, you would be further ahead.
Skisok –
You could not be more wrong about Robert E. Lee.
Lee was an ardent supporter of slavery. I suggest you read this recent article from The Atlantic
The Myth of the Kindly General Lee
The legend of the Confederate leader’s heroism and decency is based in the fiction of a person who never existed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/the-myth-of-the-kindly-general-lee/529038/
This is from a pretty reliable source. Read this.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Robert-E-Lee
People are ignorant on what started the Civil War. Your perspective has to be from that time period. There was no nation in the world that did not have slaves. Even Africans owned slaves. American Indians had slaves. I’m not saying it was right, only saying “it is what it is” and you cannot piece meal who these people were. They were of their era. Just like you are of your era, with all your faults included. No person is perfect. Aristotle — ‘The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.”
The war was NOT fought over slavery. The issue was over no representation. The south took their goods to sell in the north. The north refused to pay them fairly, and would not work for compromise. That was what the war was JUSTLY fought over. The men of the south were defending their livelihoods. They fought with honor, just like those of the north did.
There came a point well into the war where the public had lost the will to continue fighting and wanted to let the nation decide. Lincoln refused to have it, and took that opportunity to bring slavery into the subject to inflame the public to keep fighting. The war was NOT fought over slavery.
The same is happening here over the statues. The issue has nothing to do with the statues. The Left is losing power. They are panicked, no money, massive Congressional seat losses, more losses to come, the public is turning on them, people are turning off the Left’s news media. The Left are now paying mercenaries $25 hrly to riot, trucking the violence in, using police chiefs and majors to prevent police from doing their jobs. The statues are just another arm to their panic, something to inflame their supporters, just like slavery.
As to the Civil War slavery being a ways to the means, so is the statues. They are after our Constitution. You tear down the statues, discrediting the men, you work your way to the Founding Fathers, you discredit their work, you discredit the Constitution. The proof of that is a continued pattern of behavior on the Left. Their liberal courts are writing illegal laws from the bench. Their senators believe the Constitution is a living document, meaning it can be interpreted according to their warped ideology, change to suit their bias —not sacrosanct.
What do Communist need to do to overthrow America? Get through the wall that stops them—our CONSTITUTION! Doing that will also enable them to get our guns, which they will have to do to overthrow us. There are now more guns in America then there are people. A phenomenon directly contributed to actions of the Obama administration. As Hitler said, “To conquer a nation, first disarm its citizens.”
Excellent! Thank you!
😊 Thanks. I wish more people would think deeper on these issues and not react emotionally by jumping off a cliff like lemmings just to follow the loudest screamers. Who incidentally are not the high numbers they appear. Stats show roughly 22% of Americans even have any liberal views. That is why Soros, and the Dems, have to pay people to show up for the riots and bus them around. $75 an hour is hard money to turn down, especially when you send in the illegal aliens who funnel that massive sum back to Mexico.
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Did you see this? Why are we surprised?!
ALERT: Hackers Expose Horrifying Identity of Antifa Criminals – IDENTIFIED BY NAME!
Anonymous hackers on 8chan have sought to create an extensive list of all known members of the anti-fascism group. Most disturbing are the vast number of professors, school teachers, and other workers in our public education system.
https://www.teaparty.org/alert-hackers-expose-horrifying-identity-antifa-criminals-260888/
Perhaps they should–with appropriate messages on them! Perhaps the Germans would then remember–it wasn’t a ‘German’ who lead them into war!! Hitler was not German!! He was a student in Germany who saw how weak that country was at the time and took advantage for his own agendas!
If you are an American, which I doubt, you are a sorry excuse for one. You are beyond ignorant on the importance of history, and even more benighted on what the Left is doing to you. They are doing what they have done throughout history, enslaving people. There is no excuse for you to fall for their tripe in this day and age, when the true is so easily seem. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3bdfb30718a57a42bcc81e55c273db81f7d20a01f6e7081cb51f8759ee859243.jpg
I don’t think it really matters anymore because the nation is being destroyed by all of the hatred Americans are showing one another. Americans used to help and care for one another. Now, if one American opposes another American, the hatred spews forth. This was most apparent during the election when Americans verbally attacked one another on Facebook. Friendships ended because of the election. Left to their own devices, Americans will destroy the nation. I seem to remember another civil war in our history.
Sandra Wilbanks: Not quite on the mark here. America is not being destroyed by hatred at all. Antifa, anarchists, BLM, KKK et al are yelling this, but that doesn’t make it so. They expect you to fall for their arguments which, by this time, are reduced to calling everyone in disagreement with them racists. Vladimir Lenin used this ploy constantly and referred to the weaker minds who followed his line unthinkingly as “useful idiots”. Be careful and don’t fall into that trap.
You are right to a degree. The rioters etc are being paid to be there, from $15-75 hourly. What you aren’t right about is that there is no one trying to destroy America. The Communist Anti-American Democrats most definitely are. They are trying to impose a New World Order that would force American to take in and support the entire 3rd world.
How many of you out there want to be replaced? That’s the Communist Anti-American Democrat plan. You aren’t worth anything to them, so they have decided to steal everything from you, give your country to the 3rd world, and guess what — make you pay for the invader takeover. I hope you have another plan for your children and grandchildren, because they will not have America, if the Communist Anti-American Democrats ever get control again — you and yours are expendable.
Trump Opposes U.N. Plan to ‘Replace’ U.S. Population – Liberty Headlines
… In the fall of 2016 Obama hosted the U.N. Leaders’ Summit on Refugees in New York, where he and other world leaders used rhetoric strikingly similar to the concept of “replacement migration,” a U.N. plot to replace the population of a given country with migrants and “refugees” from the developing world….
Read this very enlightening article here: http://www.libertyheadlines.com/trump-opposes-u-n-plan-replace-u-s-population/
I agree. Both extremes are to blame. If they kill each other off, America will be better off. I agree with some of the left and right actions bring a moderate, but never the extreme agenda. And if you’re respectful of me, I’ll be respectful of you. I can be just as harsh and brutal to anyone who attacks me right or left.
Do you understand that the Democrats are communists working for a foreign governing body, the New World Order Globalist of the U.N.? Do you understand they are trying to give our country away to that foreign body? Do you understand that is the equivalent to having a foreign country invade our country and take it over? Do you understand that under Communism there is no Constitution that the two cannot co-exist? Frankly Sandra that makes the Democrats very much enemy agents.
The Democrats already signed over our sovereignty rights to that same Globalists New World Order. The first order was to violate our 2nd Amendment. They had agreed to force all Americans to give up their guns. The point is not if you think guns should be banned, the issue is that the Dems stole your Constitutional Right byway of the Globalists. In the same way as that same Global Rule took all the guns from all the other nations, they intended to take ours.
We still have our guns, what happened? The Constitution saved us. What the Democrats did was ruled unConstitutional in the SCOTUS … THIS TIME. What is also proved was that the Communist Anti-American Democrats cannot be trusted to uphold our Constitution and thus they cannot be trusted to govern America.
Oh and the guns were merely a first volley. The laws this foreign body is imposing on the countries of the EU are very disturbing. Do you recall,the little baby that was not allowed to come to America for treatment, and his parents were told the child must die? That decision was not made by the hospital it was made by the Globalists in the U.N. Again what matters here is YOU no longer own your own children, the state does.
Here let me show you Obama telling you what they were doing himself. He is giving a speech to these same Globalists. He is admitting to planning the overthrow of America.
Obama erklärt in kürze die Neue Welt Ordnung 2016 ^^ – Zusammenschnitt via Play Tube Free
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfRtbIQ1kTw
Sandra Williams what world are you living in when you write, “Do you understand that the Democrats are communists working for a foreign governing body, the New World Order Globalist of the U.N.? Do you understand they are trying to give our country away to that foreign body?”
It is your hero Trump who colluded with the Russians to get elected, who gave the Russians secrets from our ally Israel and admires Valimer Putin. Open your eyes! Trump is the threat here, not the Democrats.
If that is true, why hasn’t he been incarcerated? BECAUSE it is NOT true! This was a big lie perpetrated by the democrats to TRY to get rid of President Trump! Well it is not going to happen because it has already been proven to be a lie, but the media is still trying to make it appear that it is true, and you still keep believing the lie! The only ones going to prison will be Comey and Lynch, and others! DO YOU KNOW that your democrat party has been taken over by the communist? Look on the communist party website and you will find listed 70 democrat congressmen! Read Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”, it will open your eyes. Research George Soros – The man who made billions of dollars tearing down other countries and is well on his way in tearing down the United States! His foundations are being investigated at present for interfering in elections! His money funds ANTIFA, BLM, and the other communist organizations to create chaos around the country! So, before inserting foot in mouth, know what you are talking about!
I see the truth about Trump and see nothing that would change my support from him when the alternative is the destruction of America and the American people. Why don’t you see that Trump is turning America around so that we can thrive again and stop being the doormat to the rest of the world?
FIRST 50 DAYS AS POTUS, Donald Trump, has accomplished more than some presidents accomplish in their entire terms in office. He’s added jobs to the economy, driven the stock market to record highs and saved taxpayers billions of dollars. Here are just some of the best of Trump’s major achievements from his first 7 weeks in office:
Click here to see the first 100 days but below are highlights of the first 50:
1. NEW JOB, In January, the numbers were 238,000 jobs added, and in February the figures were 235,000, with wages growing by an average 2.8 percent and unemployment falling to 4.7 percent. Of course, Trump quickly points out, the way the government calculates unemployment is currently not very accurate, and new Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin has been one of the first people to acknowledge this. Hopefully, a more accurate formulation will be put to use by Trump’s administration soon.
2. A LOWER NATIONAL DEBIT, An occurrence that many people didn’t expect has come to pass; Trump has succeeded in lowering the nation’s debt, instead of adding to it. The most recent figure for the debt under ex-President Obama was $19.947 trillion, but since then, Trump has subtracted $68 billion — not a bad start for a president who has vowed to cut copious government waste.
3. MANUFACTURING IS AT ITS BEST SINCE 1984
4. SMALL BUSINESSES AND MEDIUM-SIZED BUSINESSES ARE CONFIDENT, account for at least 83% of the nation’s employment. The National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB) Small Business Optimism Index recently hit its highest levels since 2004.
5. THE STOCK MARKET KEEPS HITTING RECORD HIGHS. Average has surged more than 12 percent — greater than 2500 points — to close above 21,000 for the first time ever on March 1.
6. SAMSUNG IS INVESTING IN AMERICA PRODUCTION, will reportedly invest $300 million in expanding its U.S. production facilities.
7. EXXONMOBIL IS MOVING JOBS TO. U.S. will spending more than $20 billion. More than 45,000 jobs will be created.
8. CARRIER WILL KEEP ITS INDIANA MANUFACTURING PLANT
9. FIAT CHRYSLER IS INVESTING IS INVESTING $1 billion in Its Factories, creating at least 2,000 jobs.
10. HASBRO ANNOUNCED IT WILL START MAKING PLAY-DOH IN AMERICA AGAIN.
11. COAL INDUSTRY FREED FROM ONEROUS REGULATIONS. People do not realize that coal hubs run our power grid.
12. TRANSPACIFIC PARTNERSHIP IS DEAD. It cost the U.S. untold numbers of jobs and lowered standards for everything from food to medicines.
13. ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION FROM MEXICO IS DOWN 40%
14. END OF SANCTUARY CITIES HAS BEEN MANDATED.
15. REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMACARE HAS BEGUN.
16. NEIL GORSUCH HAS BEEN NOMINATED FOR SCOTUS
17. APPROVAL OF THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE AND DAKOTA ACCESS PIPELINE, creating America jobs and lower gas prices.
18. INTERNATIONAL NGOs SANCTIONING ABORTIONS WILL LOSE FUNDING.
19. TRANSGENDER BATHROOMS POLICIES WILL BE SET BY STATES, Not the Federal Government
20. AMERICAN TAXPAYERS WILL SAVE ON COSTS OF AIR FORCE ONE, saving hundreds of millions of dollars, thanks to Trump.
As one can see, this is quite a list. If Trump can keep up this effort, he stands a good chance of going down as one of the greatest American presidents in history. Here’s hoping he will be in office for a full eight years!
THRUMP ACCOMPLISHMENTS
•Appointing Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court
•Withdrawing the United States from the TPP
•Ended more than 800 proposed regulations, shrinking regulatory footprint
•Ended “Catch and Release” immigration polices
•Reducing the national debt by over $100 billion
•Reducing national unemployment to 16 year low
•Ended “Catch and Release” immigration polices
•Leading U.S. Manufacturing Index to 33 Year High
•Paving the way for record highs on the stock market
•Rebuilding our military and increasing the support of our troops and their access to quality healthcare
•Draining the swamp
•Trump REELS IN Billion Dollar Investment
From Wall St. Journal
Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd. EQM&M 0.66% plans to double its bets in the U.S. over the next five years, spending $1 billion in an effort to strengthen the Indian company’s brand as President Donald Trump pressures companies foreign and domestic to steer investments toward America.
“We believe in America,” Chairman Anand Mahindra said Monday during a discussion with reporters and a separate interview with The Wall Street Journal in Midtown Manhattan.
http://www.teapartynetwork.com/trump-reels-in-billion-dollar-investment/
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President Donald J. Trump’s Six Months of America First | whitehouse.gov
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/07/20/president-donald-j-trumps-six-months-america-first?
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President Trump started off as aggressive as any President ever in working for the American people as he promised. Now as President Trump’s first 100 days in office come to an end, here is a complete list of his accomplishments and his resulting impact on the economy and world affairs in this very short period of time:
Click here to see the first 100 days
The US Stock Markets are at record highs and millions of Americans are benefitting in their retirement savings accounts.
* The DOW daily closing stock market average rose more than 15% since the election on November 8th. (On November 9th the DOW closed at 18,332 – on March 1st the DOW closed at 21,115).
* Since the Inauguration on January 20th the DOW rose 6.5%. (It was at 19,827 at January 20th and reached 21,115 on March 1st.)
* The DOW took just 66 days to climb from 19,000 to above 21,000, the fastest 2,000 point run ever. The DOW closed above 19,000 for the first time on November 22nd and closed above 21,000 on March 1st.
* The DOW closed above 20,000 on January 25th and the March 1st rally matched the fastest-ever 1,000 point increase in the DOW at 24 days.
* The US Stock Market gained $2 trillion in wealth since Trump was elected!
* The S&P 500 broke $20 Trillion for the first time in its history.
* In the history of the DOW, going back to January 1901, the DOW record for most continuous closing high trading days was set in January of 1987 when Ronald Reagan was President. The DOW set closing highs an amazing 12 times in a row that month. On February 28th President Trump matched President Reagan when the DOW reached a new high for its 12th day in a row!
President Trump decreased the US Debt in his first 100 days by $100 Billion. (President Obama increased the US debt in his first 100 days by more than $560 Billion.)
The US Manufacturing Index soared to a 33 year high in this period which were the best numbers since 1983 under President Reagan.
President Trump added 298,000 jobs in his first month alone (after President Obama said jobs were not coming back!).
Housing sales are red-hot. In 2011, houses for sale were on the market an average 84 days. This year, it’s just 45 days.
Illegal immigration is down 67% since President Trump’s Inauguration.
NATO announced Allied spending is up $10 Billion because of President Trump.
After being nominated by President Trump, Constitutionalist Judge Neil Gorsuch was confirmed and sworn in as Supreme Court Justice in early April.
The President has signed 66 executive orders, memoranda and proclamations as of April 19th, including:
* Notifying Congress of a strike on Syria after it was reported that the country used gas on its citizens.
* Dismantling Obama’s climate change initiatives.
* Travel bans for individuals from a select number of countries embroiled in terrorist atrocities.
* Enforcing regulatory reform.
* Protecting Law enforcement.
* Mandating for every new regulation to eliminate two.
* Defeating ISIS.
* Rebuilding the military.
* Building a border wall.
* Cutting funding for sanctuary cities.
* Approving pipelines.
* Reducing regulations on manufacturers.
* Placing a hiring freeze on federal employees.
* Exiting the US from the TPP.
In addition to all this, the President has met with many foreign leaders from across the globe including Xi from China, Abe from Japan, etc.
The President also pointed out numerous times that the MSM (Main Stream Media) reports only on a made up Russia conspiracy story and ignores these accomplishments. These actions are making the majority of Americans aware of the tremendous bias in the media in the US and abroad. This too is another major Trump accomplishment.
Winning, Winning, Winning!
List of POTUS Accomplishments
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/draft-complete-list-of-president-trumps-accomplishments-in-his-first-100-days/
Well said Dorcas!
Dorcus –
The reason Trump was not yet been incarcerated, nor removed from office, is that he has only been in office six months.
Robert Mueller has been Special Counsel, less than three months, It took 6 years to remove Richard Nixon from office and even then he never went to prison, even thou his Attorney General, John Mitchell, and over a dozen of his top aides, all went to prison,
Let’s have this conversation two years from now and let’s see where Michael Flynn, Paul Malafort, Jared Kushner and Donald Trump Jr. are.
Pretty sure Nixon left on his own accord to avoid dragging the country to the possible impeachment crap that would take place.
Not sure how old you are Blue, but Nixon resigned not to save “the country to the possible impeachment crap that would take place”, but because he virtually lost all support. Even hard-core Republicans had abandoned him at the end. It was clear he would be overwhelming impeached, so he chose to resign rather than be impeached.
Are you still beating the Trump collusion dead horse?
Nope, just waiting for Robert Mueller to do his job. Wanna bet which Trump administration officials are indicted?
What proof do you have for this accusation, when the CIA and the FBI have none?? I’m sure they’d be interested!! On the other hand–Obama and Hillary were ‘knee deep’ in Russian collusion!! Who sold ‘uranium’ to Russia? Who stated–‘I’ll have more flexibility after the election’ to Putin? It wasn’t Pres Trump!!!
Let’s start with a quick at the Left’s bulldog plant Mueller. It seems that all the hoopla about Mueller being “independent” is false. In 2009, Mueller flew to Russia in order to deliver ten grams of highly enriched uranium (HEU) to the Kremlin, via WikiLeaks. As an aside Wikileaks hasn’t been wrong in 11 years.
BREAKING: WikiLeaks Drops Mueller Bombshell, He Should Be Arrested – Tea Party News
Much like the Clintons, it seems that Mueller has more connections to Moscow than President Trump.
https://www.teaparty.org/breaking-wikileaks-drops-mueller-bombshell-arrested-255624/
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Look who is REALLY connect to Russia … a Democrat who harps on the Russia conspiracy.
The fake news story about Trump’s involvement with Russia has been going nowhere. A new investigation is shining a light on a Democrat who has more factual ties.
News recently broke about Adam Schiff, a California Democrat representative, and Trump conspiracy theorist. Got News released a financial disclosure report showing that Schiff had at least $16,000 invested in a Russia-linked company.
Last week, Schiff made claims about our President and Russia. A recent tweet from Schiff suggests that working with Russia is EXACTLY like working with North Korea.
https://www.teaparty.org/busted-top-anti-trump-dem-caught-thousands-dollars-russian-investments-251994/
Financial disclosure report showing Schiff had at least $16,000 invested in a Russia-linked company. https://www.teaparty.org/busted-top-anti-trump-dem-caught-thousands-dollars-russian-investments-251994/
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Let’s look at your party, shall we? —
The Democratic National Committee is currently defending the tactics it used last year to rig the presidential primary against Sen. Bernie Sanders in a class-action lawsuit, brazenly telling voters in a court of law that the party is not obligated to run a fair and impartial primary election.
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Let’s look at the Communist Democrat Globalists who are pushing for impeachment:
Impeach Trump’s Impeachers | Frontpage Mag
Power and money is everything to the Democrats. The corruption against individual Democrat leaders is long. These are but a few, as the list is endless:
House Resolution 635 pushing for impeachment was sponsored by •Congressman Conyers whose wife would be convicted of bribery charges. Congressional co-sponsors included •Maxine Waters, •Sheila Jackson Lee, •Jesse Jackson Jr., who was sent to prison for mail fraud, •Charlie Rangel, who was found guilty of 11 ethics violations, •Bernie Sanders, whose wife Jane is under FBI investigation for the Burlington College fraud and •Bob Filner, who was convicted of false imprisonment and battery. [•Warren, falsely claimed she was Native American Indian, who was caught funneling a massive amount of campaign money to her daughter on the guise of running Warren’s campaign. •Maxine Waters did the same either her relative. •Schiff has ties to Russia, •Brazile gave Clinton debate questions, •Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chair, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schult tipped the Party in Hillary’s direction away from Sanders. It further goes down to the local levels as well. •Anti-Trump NYC Mayor Caught In $2 MILLION Scandal. He Should Be In Prison – De Blasio, a Clinton supporter and a critic of Donald Trump’s immigration policies, is now in hot water for using public money to cover his private bills. In total, De Blasio used a blog post on Medium to announce that the city (i.e. THE TAXPAYERS) will be paying approximately $2 million in his private legal fees, via Politico. •Obama is running around the free world undermining our POTUS, all on our taxpayer dollars.]
The only consistent thing about Democrat calls for impeachment is that it’s the impeachers who are dirty and crooked.
Read the full detailed article with their many crimes: http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266995/impeach-trumps-impeachers-daniel-greenfield
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TOTAL MEDIA BLACKOUT: Democrat Leader Pleads GUILTY To Raping 4 Yr-Old [VIDEO] –
Democrat, and former Mayor of Hubbard, Ohio, Richard Keenan, decided to plead guilty in a case citing sexual misconduct with a 4-year-old girl, according to ABC News. It started back in 2013 and took place over 20 times. The coward likely changed his plea to guilty because he KNEW that he had nowhere to run and hide.
https://www.teaparty.org/total-media-blackout-democrat-leader-pleads-guilty-raping-4-yr-old-video-248983/
Anti-Trump NYC Mayor Caught In $2 MILLION Scandal. He Should Be In Prison –
De Blasio, a Clinton supporter and a critic of Donald Trump’s immigration policies, is now in hot water for using public money to cover his private bills. In total, De Blasio used a blog post on Medium to announce that the city (i.e. THE TAXPAYERS) will be paying approximately $2 million in his private legal fees, via Politico.
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Another corrupt Communist Anti-American Democrat: Child-Welfare Investigator Report: Seattle Mayor Ed Murray Molested Foster Son
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/20/child-welfare-investigator-report-seattle-mayor-molested-foster-son/
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THE RUSSIAN CONNECTION
Democrat-Backed Creators of the “Trump Dossier” were Paid Russian Agents —
http://freedomoutpost.com/democrat-backed-creators-of-the-trump-dossier-were-paid-russian-agents/
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Obama appointed 50 czars through the span of his administration, 39 of whom were unconfirmed by the Senate and largely unaccountable to Congress.
As government watchdog Judicial Watch pointed out, most of the “czar” activities were often outside the reach of the Freedom of Information Act, “creating a veil of secrecy about their precise role in the administration.”
In 2011, Congress – including 13 Democrats – voiced its disapproval over Obama’s use of czars to undermine government accountability by introducing a bill intended to eliminate funding for czars.
The then-Democratic-controlled Senate did not pass the bill. While the Obama administration was heavily criticized for using czars as a mean to circumvent Congress, the Trump administration has yet to employ a single “czar,” according to Trump’s 2017 budget.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/07/trump-drains-big-part-of-white-house-swamp/#oMvLYFtypdEBiHuv.99
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A Democrat Congressman Just Got Arrested After Threatening Trump
http://greatamericandaily.com/a-democrat-congressman-just-got-arrested-after-threatening-trump/
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Have a look at the Democrats. At least read the heading titles as it will give you a real look at how corrupt the entire Communist Democrat Party is. It is irony that they can claim the higher road about who should have been elected. Thank God Americans saw through the corruption and lies.
Dems hate everyone. Top 100 Most Damaging WikiLeaks. http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/
Russia connection? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/87aab4e192cc93236aa9646aef3c271b2f5744fe0e2bdbd0a620f9c721330fae.jpg
We are having another problem now! To many illegals,plus legals have come in America and don’t care about our history. This is what happens when you bring so many people from other cultures to America so fast! They don’t care about past history or Christian prayer!. I AM TOTALLY,TOTALLY CONVINCED There are way more illegals in America than you have been told. Many people don’t realize there are whole community subdivisions completely just Spanish that come over america and retired not knowing any English because the Spanish community is so large. I am speaking from experience in 2006- 2008 when working in Nations disaster and came across them. I even came across whole community of Orientals too. The Orientals did mostly fishing and the was a whole of them not knowing any English. Also, I have come across several trailer parks that I was told that the owner never had to put a for rent signs out because as soon someone leaves there was some other illegal waiting to take his place. You wonder how so many illegals can live in America.It has been easier than you think. Many Construction workers get tax ID and then can open a bank account. I am not going into detail, but now they are allowing illegals to basically be legal if they can show 10 years in America and worked. I have a friend who does Tax Preparation that has help some this year already. I BELIEVE MOST BORN AMERICANS DON’T REALLY REALIZE HOW MUCH ILLEGALS are in AMERICA. I DON’T BELIEVE FOR ONE MINUTE THE STATS for number of illegals in America. I figured at least 2 or three times the 11,000,000, 000 or so that keeps getting quoted. That number seems to never change when I hear it.
Perfect and well said.
NO STUPID; They WERE Socialistic FASCISTS like the masked Antifa protestors.
So the United Soviet Socialist Republic U.S.S.R. were White Supremacist, thanks for
clearing that up Harold.
Harold-Son, you’re wacked. They need to throw a net over you.
Harold: Sorry to disappoint you, but the Nazis were not ‘white supremacists’ per se at all. Hitler picked up much of his so-called doctrine from a Tibetan secret society which held such views which he, later, incorporated into Nazi doctrine. That’s why he was so rabid on pushing people with blond hair and blue eyes. In his view they had to be Nordic and, in his mind, they would not be Jews. There were all kinds of people in North and South Germany, Austria and Switzerland not to mention Czechoslovakia at the time. The old Teutonic tribes were mixed in everywhere, even in Poland and elsewhere, e.g. Holland. Most of the southern group had darker hair and usually darker complexions, but they were not Jews. All of this was acceptable to Hitler. Being a Jew was not.
The push to destroy our monuments and memorials is merely a push by the whole PC crowd. The theory is that, by removing all of our visual monuments [among other things], this will lead to confusion of America’s real history by many people. That is supposed to lead people to forget the real facts amidst all the confusion. That makes an opening for the left wing to come in and fill the social-intellectual void. That’s one of the reasons this crowd – anarchists, Antifa, BLM, etc. – are so busy yelling racism. It’s meant to spread further confusion. Rummy C has it right.
For the record, General Robert E. Lee was a decorated and honored soldier of the Union Army who retired in 1858. President Lincoln called him out of retirement in 1860 to reorganize and lead the Union Army. Lee and Lincoln had an amiable disagreement over State’s Rights and parted ways. He was not a traitor. Antifa et al would have everyone believe that he was.
I hate to disagree with you but did he not believe that the Arians are the superior race? If you say no, your flat out lying.
Actually it was the NAZI SOCIALIST PARTY.YOU have no idea what you are writing about
try READING YOUR HISTORY.if you can.
Harold, Harold, Harold. All of the people who are protesting the removal of the statues, and those of us who are heartbroken over the destruction of our history, are not “white supremacist.” Many, in fact I believe most, are ordinary taxpayers, like me, who have studied American history, and World history, and know a bit more about it than a bunch of snarky assholes who believe the American Civil War was all about slavery. Furthermore, Nazis were socialist, more like the communist left in America, not at all like the redneck American Nazi Party. You need to brush up before you make a fool of yourself in a public forum again.
In my home town the statue read (note past tense which pisses me off) “twas not for honor, not for glory, it was for home and rights they fell.”
Maybe it’s time again.
Amen!
Rummy you claim to know history yet you write the incredibly stupid statement, “they believe the American Civil War was all about slavery”. If the Civil War was not about slavery, what was it about? Every Southern state that succeeded had in their Resolutions of Succession statements supporting the right of slavery.
Here is Georgia’s Declaration of Succession
The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery
https://www.civilwar.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states
For the last 150 years, since the south lost the Civil War, there has been a propaganda effort by Confederate supporters, like you, to try and rewrite history and make the southern traitors and their effort to keep blacks enslaved a noble cause.
No one except for the Democrat Party is trying to keep blacks enslaved. Before FDR, most black men lived with their families and held respectable jobs. Then government handouts (i.e., vote-buying) started in a big way, and black women started “raising kids for the government.” That’s a quote I heard with my own ears. Too many whites do that, too.
“If the civil War was not about slavery, what was it about?”
It is commonly taught that the War Between the States was about the abolition of slavery. Actually, the impetus for the war was due to a tariff placed on imported goods coming through Southern sea ports by a Northern dominated Congress. This tariff was referred to by Southerners as the Tariff of Abominations and nearly caused South Carolina to secede from the Union. Andrew Jackson threatened to send federal troops to Charleston if South Carolina refused to collect the tariff and send it to Washington. (See “Kearney’s March” by Winston Groom.)
This tariff was used to build roads and bridges in the northern states while the south was left to fend for itself.
Senator William Grayson of Virginia expressed concern that the South would eventually become the “milch cow” of the Union.
When the southern states threatened secession, Lincoln was asked why he didn’t just let the South go. He said: ”Let the South go? Let the South go! Where then shall we get our revenues?”(See “Memoirs of Service Afloat” by Raphael Semmes.)
And also the fact that President Lincoln wanted Robert E Lee for the leader of the whole Military shows that at one time he thought highly of him. So why would a man so highly thought of go against his President? Maybe it had more to do with Politics..(that sounds familiar now) than anything else. However it’s always been built up as ONLY slavery. I do think it was part of it but according to a lot of history books before people altered them also blamed it on the Federal Gov overreaching power…it seems eerily like the NWO…the way the rest of the World works…have you ever even been to other countries? Or know people there? I have as my wife and i travel to places for missions and have friends there…I also communicate as a Fed with other Countries Feds, they aren’t as happy as you might think with the system, but unlike here where the 1st Amendment protects even idiots, there you could be killed or jailed for speaking out against the Government…So enjoy your freedom while you can, because if these idiots get their way soon the NWO could be a way of life, the UN has already started sticking their noses in it..God Bless America and may she stay free and Under God..
“However it’s always been built up as ONLY slavery.”
Baldwin
Ladies and gentlemen, I submit that what we see happening in the United States today is an apt illustration of why the Confederate flag was raised in the first place. What we see materializing before our very eyes is tyranny: tyranny over the freedom of expression, tyranny over the freedom of association, tyranny over the freedom of speech, and tyranny over the freedom of conscience.
In 1864, Confederate General Patrick Cleburne warned his fellow southerners of the historical consequences should the South lose their war for independence. He was truly a prophet. He said if the South lost, “It means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy. That our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the war; will be impressed by all of the influences of History and Education to regard our gallant debt as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.” No truer words were ever spoken.
History revisionists flooded America’s public schools with Northern propaganda about the people who attempted to secede from the United States, characterizing them as racists, extremists, radicals, hatemongers, traitors, etc. You know, the same way that people in our federal government and news media attempt to characterize Christians, patriots, war veterans, constitutionalists, et al. today.
Folks, please understand that the only people in 1861 who believed that states did NOT have the right to secede were Abraham Lincoln and his radical Republicans. To say that southern states did not have the right to secede from the United States is to say that the thirteen colonies did not have the right to secede from Great Britain. One cannot be right and the other wrong. If one is right, both are right. How can we celebrate our Declaration of Independence in 1776 and then turn around and condemn the Declaration of Independence of the Confederacy in 1861? Talk about hypocrisy!
In fact, southern states were not the only states that talked about secession. After the southern states seceded, the State of Maryland fully intended to join them. In September of 1861, Lincoln sent federal troops to the State capital and seized the legislature by force in order to prevent them from voting. Federal provost marshals stood guard at the polls and arrested Democrats and anyone else who believed in secession. A special furlough was granted to Maryland troops so they could go home and vote against secession. Judges who tried to inquire into the phony elections were arrested and thrown into military prisons. There is your great “emancipator,” folks.
And before the South seceded, several northern states had also threatened secession. Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island had threatened secession as far back as James Madison’s administration. In addition, the states of New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Delaware were threatening secession during the first half of the nineteenth century – long before the southern states even considered such a thing.
People say constantly that Lincoln “saved” the Union. Lincoln didn’t save the Union; he subjugated the Union. There is a huge difference. A union that is not voluntary is not a union. Does a man have a right to force a woman to marry him or to force a woman to stay married to him? In the eyes of God, a union of husband and wife is far superior to a union of states. If God recognizes the right of husbands and wives to separate (and He does), to try and suggest that states do not have the right to lawfully (under Natural and divine right) separate is the most preposterous proposition imaginable.
People say that Lincoln freed the slaves. Lincoln did NOT free a single slave. But what he did do was enslave free men. His so-called Emancipation Proclamation had NO AUTHORITY in the southern states, as they had separated into another country. Imagine a President today signing a proclamation to free folks in, say, China or Saudi Arabia. He would be laughed out of Washington. Lincoln had no authority over the Confederate States of America, and he knew it.
Do you not find it interesting that Lincoln’s proclamation did NOT free a single slave in the United States, the country in which he DID have authority? That’s right. The Emancipation Proclamation deliberately ignored slavery in the North. Do you not realize that when Lincoln signed his proclamation, there were over 300,000 slaveholders who were fighting in the Union army? Check it out.
One of those northern slaveholders was General (and later U.S. President) Ulysses S. Grant. In fact, he maintained possession of his slaves even after the War Between the States concluded. Recall that his counterpart, Confederate General Robert E. Lee, freed his slaves BEFORE hostilities between North and South ever broke out. When asked why he refused to free his slaves, Grant said, “Good help is hard to find these days.”
The institution of slavery did not end until the 13th Amendment was ratified on December 6, 1865.
Speaking of the 13th Amendment, did you know that Lincoln authored his own 13th Amendment? It is the only amendment to the Constitution ever proposed by a sitting U.S. President. Here is Lincoln’s proposed amendment: “No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give Congress the power to abolish or interfere within any state with the domestic institutions thereof, including that a person’s held to labor or service by laws of said State.”
You read it right. Lincoln proposed an amendment to the U.S. Constitution PRESERVING the institution of slavery. This proposed amendment was written in March of 1861, a month BEFORE the shots were fired at Fort Sumter, South Carolina.
The State of South Carolina was particularly incensed at the tariffs enacted in 1828 and 1832. The Tariff of 1828 was disdainfully called, “The Tariff of Abominations” by the State of South Carolina. Accordingly, the South Carolina legislature declared that the tariffs of 1828 and 1832 were “unauthorized by the constitution of the United States.”
Think, folks: why would the southern states secede from the Union over slavery when President Abraham Lincoln had offered an amendment to the Constitution guaranteeing the PRESERVATION of slavery? That makes no sense. If the issue was predominantly slavery, all the South needed to do was to go along with Lincoln, and his proposed 13th Amendment would have permanently preserved slavery among the southern (and northern) states. Does that sound like a body of people who were willing to lose hundreds of thousands of men on the battlefield over saving slavery? What nonsense!
The problem was Lincoln wanted the southern states to pay the Union a 40% tariff on their exports. The South considered this outrageous and refused to pay. By the time hostilities broke out in 1861, the South was paying up to, and perhaps exceeding, 70% of the nation’s taxes. Before the war, the South was very prosperous and productive. And Washington, D.C., kept raising the taxes and tariffs on them. You know, the way Washington, D.C., keeps raising the taxes on prosperous American citizens today.
This is much the same story of the way the colonies refused to pay the demanded tariffs of the British Crown – albeit the tariffs of the Crown were MUCH lower than those demanded by Lincoln. Lincoln’s proposed 13th Amendment was an attempt to entice the South into paying the tariffs by being willing to permanently ensconce the institution of slavery into the Constitution. AND THE SOUTH SAID NO!
In addition, the Congressional Record of the United States forever obliterates the notion that the North fought the War Between the States over slavery. Read it for yourself. This resolution was passed unanimously in the U.S. Congress on July 23, 1861, “The War is waged by the government of the United States not in the spirit of conquest or subjugation, nor for the purpose of overthrowing or interfering with the rights or institutions of the states, but to defend and protect the Union.”
What could be clearer? The U.S. Congress declared that the war against the South was NOT an attempt to overthrow or interfere with the “institutions” of the states, but to keep the Union intact (by force). The “institutions” implied most certainly included the institution of slavery.
Hear it loudly and clearly: Lincoln’s war against the South had NOTHING to do with ending slavery – so said the U.S. Congress by unanimous resolution in 1861.
Abraham Lincoln, himself, said it was NEVER his intention to end the institution of slavery. In a letter to Alexander Stevens who later became the Vice President of the Confederacy, Lincoln wrote this, “Do the people of the South really entertain fears that a Republican administration would directly, or indirectly, interfere with their slaves, or with them, about their slaves? If they do, I wish to assure you, as once a friend, and still, I hope, not an enemy, that there is no cause for such fears. The South would be in no more danger in this respect than it was in the days of Washington.”
Again, what could be clearer? Lincoln, himself, said the southern states had nothing to fear from him in regard to abolishing slavery.
Hear Lincoln again: “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it.” He also said, “I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so and I have no inclination to do so.”
The idea that the Confederate flag (actually there were five of them) stood for racism, bigotry, hatred, and slavery is just so much hogwash. In fact, if one truly wants to discover who the racist was in 1861, just read the words of Mr. Lincoln.
On August 14, 1862, Abraham Lincoln invited a group of black people to the White House. In his address to them, he told them of his plans to colonize them all back to Africa. Listen to what he told these folks: “Why should the people of your race be colonized and where? Why should they leave this country? This is, perhaps, the first question for proper consideration. You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exists between almost any other two races. Whether it is right or wrong I need not discuss; but this physical difference is a great disadvantage to us both, as I think. Your race suffers very greatly, many of them, by living among us, while ours suffers from your presence. In a word, we suffer on each side. If this is admitted, it affords a reason, at least, why we should be separated. You here are freemen, I suppose? Perhaps you have been long free, or all your lives. Your race is suffering, in my judgment, the greatest wrong inflicted on any people. But even when you cease to be slaves, you are yet far removed from being placed on an equality with the white race. The aspiration of men is to enjoy equality with the best when free, but on this broad continent not a single man of your race is made the equal of a single man of our race.”
Did you hear what Lincoln said? He said that black people would NEVER be equal with white people – even if they all obtained their freedom from slavery. If that isn’t a racist statement, I’ve never heard one.
Lincoln’s statement above is not isolated. In Charleston, Illinois, in 1858, Lincoln said in a speech, “I am not, nor have ever been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races. I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races from living together on social or political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white.”
Ladies and gentlemen, in his own words, Abraham Lincoln declared himself to be a white supremacist. Why don’t our history books and news media tell the American people the truth about Lincoln and about the War Between the States?
It’s simple: if people would study the meanings and history of the flag, symbols, and statues of the Confederacy and Confederate leaders, they might begin to awaken to the tyrannical policies of Washington, D.C., that precluded southern independence – policies that have only escalated since the defeat of the Confederacy – and they might have a notion to again resist.
By the time Lincoln penned his Emancipation Proclamation, the war had been going on for two years without resolution. In fact, the North was losing the war. Even though the South was outmanned and out-equipped, the genius of the southern generals and fighting acumen of the southern men had put the northern armies on their heels. Many people in the North never saw the legitimacy of Lincoln’s war in the first place, and many of them actively campaigned against it. These people were affectionately called “Copperheads” by people in the South.
I urge you to watch Ron Maxwell’s accurate depiction of those people in the North who favored the southern cause as depicted in his motion picture, “Copperhead.” For that matter, I consider his movie, “Gods And Generals” to be the greatest “Civil War” movie ever made. It is the most accurate and fairest depiction of Confederate General Thomas Jonathan “Stonewall” Jackson ever produced. In my opinion, actor Stephen Lang should have received an Oscar for his performance as General Jackson. But, can you imagine?
That’s another thing: the war fought from 1861 to 1865 was NOT a “civil war.” Civil war suggests two sides fighting for control of the same capital and country. The South didn’t want to take over Washington, D.C., no more than their forebears wanted to take over London. They wanted to separate from Washington, D.C., just as America’s Founding Fathers wanted to separate from Great Britain. The proper names for that war are either, “The War Between the States” or, “The War of Southern Independence,” or, more fittingly, “The War of Northern Aggression.”
Had the South wanted to take over Washington, D.C., they could have done so with the very first battle of the “Civil War.” When Lincoln ordered federal troops to invade Virginia in the First Battle of Manassas (called the “First Battle of Bull Run” by the North), Confederate troops sent the Yankees running for their lives all the way back to Washington. Had the Confederates pursued them, they could have easily taken the city of Washington, D.C., seized Abraham Lincoln, and perhaps ended the war before it really began. But General Beauregard and the others had no intention of fighting an aggressive war against the North. They merely wanted to defend the South against the aggression of the North.
In order to rally people in the North, Lincoln needed a moral crusade. That’s what his Emancipation Proclamation was all about. This explains why his proclamation was not penned until 1863, after two years of fruitless fighting. He was counting on people in the North to stop resisting his war against the South if they thought it was some kind of “holy” war. Plus, Lincoln was hoping that his proclamation would incite blacks in the South to insurrect against southern whites. If thousands of blacks would begin to wage war against their white neighbors, the fighting men of the southern armies would have to leave the battlefields and go home to defend their families. THIS NEVER HAPPENED.
Not only did blacks not riot against the whites of the south, many black men volunteered to fight alongside their white friends and neighbors in the Confederate army. Unlike the blacks in the North, who were conscripted by Lincoln and forced to fight in segregated units, thousands of blacks in the South fought of their own free will in a fully-integrated southern army. I bet your history book never told you about that.
If one wants to ban a racist flag, one would have to ban the British flag. Ships bearing the Union Jack shipped over 5 million African slaves to countries all over the world, including the British colonies in North America. Other slave ships flew the Dutch flag and the Portuguese flag and the Spanish flag, and, yes, the U.S. flag. But not one single slave ship flew the Confederate flag. NOT ONE!
By the time Lincoln launched his war against the southern states, slavery was already a dying institution. The entire country, including the South, recognized the moral evil of slavery and wanted it to end. Only a small fraction of southerners even owned slaves. The slave trade had ended in 1808, per the U.S. Constitution, and the practice of slavery was quickly dying, too. In another few years, with the advent of agricultural machinery, slavery would have ended peacefully – just like it had in England. It didn’t take a national war and the deaths of over a half million men to end slavery in Great Britain. America’s so-called “Civil War” was absolutely unnecessary. The greed of Lincoln’s radical Republicans in the North, combined with the cold, calloused heart of Lincoln himself is responsible for the tragedy of the “Civil War.”
And look at what is happening now: in one instant – after one deranged young man killed nine black people and who ostensibly photo-shopped a picture of himself with a Confederate flag – the entire political and media establishments in the country go on an all-out crusade to remove all semblances of the Confederacy. The speed in which all of this has happened suggests that this was a planned, orchestrated event by the Powers That Be (PTB). And is it a mere coincidence that this took place at the exact same time that the U.S. Supreme Court decided to legalize same-sex marriage? I think not.
The Confederate Battle Flag flies the Saint Andrews cross. Of course, Andrew was the first disciple of Jesus Christ, brother of Simon Peter, and Christian martyr who was crucified on an X-shaped cross at around the age of 90. Andrew is the patron saint of both Russia and Scotland.
In the 1800s, up to 75% of people in the South were either Scotch or Scotch-Irish. The Confederate Battle Flag is predicated on the national flag of Scotland. It is a symbol of the Christian faith and heritage of the Celtic race.
Pastor John Weaver rightly observed, “Even the Confederate States motto, ‘Deovendickia,’ (The Lord is our Vindicator), illustrates the sovereignty and the righteousness of God. The Saint Andrews cross is also known as the Greek letter CHIA (KEE) and has historically been used to represent Jesus Christ. Why do you think people write Merry X-mas, just to give you an illustration? The ‘X’ is the Greek letter CHIA and it has been historically used for Christ. Moreover, its importance was understood by educated and uneducated people alike. When an uneducated man, one that could not write, needed to sign his name please tell me what letter he made? An ‘X,’ why? Because he was saying I am taking an oath under God. I am recognizing the sovereignty of God, the providence of God and I am pledging my faith. May I tell you the Confederate Flag is indeed a Christian flag because it has the cross of Saint Andrew, who was a Christian martyr, and the letter ‘X’ has always been used to represent Christ, and to attack the flag is to deny the sovereignty, the majesty, and the might of the Lord Jesus Christ and his divine role in our history, culture, and life.”
Many of the facts that I reference in this column were included in a message delivered several years ago by Pastor John Weaver. I want to thank John for preaching such a powerful and needed message. Read or watch Pastor Weaver’s sermon “The Truth About The Confederate Battle Flag” here:
HYPERLINK “http://www.confederateamericanpride.com/battleflag.html” t “_blank” The Truth About The Confederate Battle Flag
Combine the current attacks against Biblical and traditional marriage, the attacks against all things Confederate, the attacks against all things Christian, and the attacks against all things constitutional and what we are witnessing is a heightened example of why the Confederate Battle Flag was created to begin with. Virtually every act of federal usurpation of liberty that we are witnessing today, and have been witnessing for much of the twentieth century, is the result of Lincoln’s war against the South. Truly, we are living in Lincoln’s America, not Washington and Jefferson’s America. Washington and Jefferson’s America died at Appomattox Court House in 1865.
Instead of lowering the Confederate flag, we should be raising it.
© Chuck Baldwin
SEMPER FI BROTHER!! WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS EXAMPLES BE MADE WHEN ITS PERTAINING TO BLACK MONUMENTS AND STREETS- WE SHOULD PROTEST THE 12% AND THE ANARCHY THEY ARE PRODUCING IN THIS COUNTRY. IF WE GIVE THEM THEIR FREE WELFARE – THEY WOULD LET THE MONUMENTS OF THE SOUTH ALONE. THEY ARE LAZY AND WANT YOUR MONEY AND A FREE RIDE. I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE A BLACK AND WANT TO WALK DOWN A STREET ANYWHERE IN AMERICAN I NOT GET SPIT ON- ITS NOT THE OLD BLACKS OF THE PAST. ITS THE BLACK LIVES MATTER FRAUD MOVEMENT THAT IS CREATING THIS TENSION IN UR COUNTRY. AS AN EXPERIMENT- GIVE ALL THE BLACKS A CHECK EVERY MONTH AND AN ESCALADE AND AN OREILLY’S CARD FOR FREE PARTS LIKE 26 INCH WHEEL AND TIRES FUR COVERED DASH BOARDS AND PURPLE LIGHTS BEHIND THE WHEELS AND UNDER THE FRAME- AND THE DEAL WITH THE STATUES OF THE SOUTH WOULD DISAPPEAR. THEY ARE LAZY AND WANT A FREE RIDE TO DEAL DRUGS ON EVERY STREET CORNER IN AMERICA! PEOPLE NEED TO STOP SUGAR COATING WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND SAY IT LIKE IT IS. THEY ARE A FACTION THAT THIS COUNTRY COULD OF DONE WITHOUT IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND WOULD OF DONE QUITE WELL WITHOUT THEIR PRESENCE OR BELLIGERENCY.
BLACK SUPREMACISTS vs WHITE SPREMACISTS!
Lets get it on!!! What are the betting odds?
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Rummy your logic fails! Do you see statutes in Germany today dedicated to the Nazi’s? Where are the statutes to Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels and Rommel? They don’t exist. You write in big bold letters America First, yet you seem to support statutes dedicated to the Confederacy, which opposed America and wanted to destroy America.
no, they did not want to destroy the U.S., they wanted to secede from the U.S. and form the C.S.A.
WELL, THIS GROUP OF SUB HUMANS WERE INSPIRED BY THE COMMUNIST PARTY AND FUNDED BY THEM TO DISRUPT OUR COUNTRY SO THEY COULD POSSIBLE BE ABLE TO COME IN AND OVERTHROWN OUR GOVERNMENT AT THE SAME TIME THEY WERE FEELING BAD. IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE SOUTH AND SLAVERY THEY WOULD NOT BE THE UGLY 12% OF THE POPULOUS CREATING ALL THIS FURRY OVER HISTORICAL STATUES. THEY SHOULD BE PRAISING THE LEADERS BY HAVING INTRODUCED SLAVES INTO THIS COUNTRY. THEY WOULD STILL BE FLOATING AROUND IN THE CARIBBEAN GOING FROM ONE SLAVE SHIP TO THE OTHER FLOATING OUT TO SEA TO DROWN THE ONE’S THAT WERE NOT PERFORMING ON THE SUGAR PLANTATIONS. SOUNDS LIKE THE “LAZY IDEALS” ARE STILL FOLLOWING THEM RIGHT TO TODAY.
I MYSELF HAVE WORKED SINCE I WAS 12 YEARS OLD TO GET MY OWN MONEY – SO I COULD BUY WHAT I WANTED AND THOUGH I COULD NOT DO WITHOUT. NOT ONE TIME DID I EVER GET A CARD FOR FREE FOOD AND A PLACE TO LIVE OR DID I EVER GET GIVEN AN ESCALADE WITH BIG WHEEL AND LIGHTS AND A FUR COAT TO WEAR TO A BASKETBALL GAME IN THE DOG DAYS OF SUMMER AND A HAT A COCKED OVER TO ONE SIDE! IF I WANTED A NEW PAIR OF PEDDLES FOR MY OLD BIKE IT TOOK ME A WEEK TO EARN ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY THE PEDDLES. THEN I HAD TO SAVE MY HARD EARNED MONEY TO BUY SOMETHING ELSE I THOUGHT I NEEDED. BUT THIS TAUGHT ME A LESSON- THAT NO ONE IN THIS COUNTRY GETS A FREE RIDE AND THE REST OF THE COUNTRY HAS TO PAY FOR THEIR RIDES AND NEEDS AND WANTS WITH THEIR HARD EARNED TAX DOLLARS.
GO WAH CARS – GO TO MCD’S AND COOK BURGERS – I DID IT TO FEED MY FAMILY OF 3 AT THAT TIME. DID NOT HURT ME ONE BIT. I WAS PROUD TO SAY I HAVE A JOB NO MATTER WHAT I WAS. I WENT OUT AND APPLIED A THOUSAND PLACES IT SEEMED AND SEVERAL CALLED ME BACK. THEN I CHOSE BETWEEN THE JOBS THAT I THOUGHT WOULD FIT MY NEEDS THE BEST- AND I TOOK IT AND CONSIDERED MYSELF VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A JOB AND A PAYCHECK AT THE END OF THE WEEK. NOT THIS 12%- THEY THINK BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY WE OW THEM A LIVING AND AN ESCALADE TO DRIVE AROUND WITH THEIR COLORED LIGHTS AND FUR COVERED DASH BOARDS. I DON’T OWE THEM A PENNY AND THIS COUNTRY DOES NOT OWE THEM A PENNY- THE ONLY THINK THIS COUNTRY SHOULD GIVE THESE 12%’ERS IS A SWIFT KICK SQUARE IN THE ASSZ. THEY NEED TO GET OFF THE WELFARE ASSESZ AND GO TO WORK LIKE AN AMERICAN.
WHEN I RETIRE IN 4.5 YEARS WITH 20 IN – MY WIFE AND I WILL BE GOING OFF THE GRID- IN A SMALL COUNTRY SETTING OUTSIDE OF THAT TOWN AND ATTEMPTING TO BE SELF SUFFICIENT- AND KEEP AS MUCH OF OUR TAX MONEY FROM GOING INTO THE GUTS OF THESE MISFITS IN SOCIETY. I WILL NOT PAY TO HAVE MY COUNTRY’S HISTORY TORN DOWN TO BE REPLACED BY SOME BUSHY HAIRED CIVIL RIGHTS CHEAT WITH A 4TH GRADE EDUCATION AND A 25$ PREACHERS TICKET.
THIS KIND OF THING IS WHAT UPS THE ROLLS IN THE KKK AND OTHER WHITE GROUPS ATTEMPTING TO BALANCE OUT THE OTHER SIDE. REMEMBER THE 88% VERSUS THE 12% RATIO. TO ME THAT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A MASS ENOUGH TO ERASE AMERICAN HISTORY TO ME. THE ODDS AR JUST TO OVERWHELMING AND ALSO THE FORCE BY THE 80% IF THEY GET PISSED OFF AND START TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST THE SUBVERSIVES DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY’S MONUMENTS OF THE PAST. HAVE A NICE DAY- ITS TIME TO MAKE SOME “RED MIST” FLY.
Stop removing statues to our history to satisfy a few left wing loons that are never happy. It is ridicules.
The extreme leftists are out of control. If all the statues , paintings books, everything that relates to the southern side of the civil war, were destroyed today, How long will it take for Black families to have married parents that provide for their kids, stop committing over 50% of all murders and violent crimes, and stop supporting the killing of police officers because they confront black thugs ?
What did it prove !!!!!!!!!!!!!
That they are a bunch of idiots.
i sujest blacks stop worrying about whites and look at the violence that had bin put on them by their own kind, you don’t have to look any further then africa,, blacks sold blacks to whites, millions have bin murdered by blacks, you want to bitch about the past i sujest you start bitching about what blacks are doing to blacks today, their still killing blacks , it wasn’t white supremisists that sold you to the whites, it was the blacks who did it, oh but you will never talk about that , because it doesn’t fit your agenda or lies, just look at the slums in the cities , blacks have no one to blame for them but them selves,just like we gave them the housing projects in the 60’s they destroyed them, , you want to live like slaves that’s fine with me , because your neighborhoods look like the slave quaters on the plantasion and who’s fault is that
Why were they torn down….meaning …. we have law enforcement to prevent this kind of thing from happening, don’t we? What governing authority allowed it to happen? Who will pay for destruction of government property? It’s against the law isn’t it?
Police are prevented from protecting law biding citizens by voters who listen to party leaders and elect many weak candidates who do not know how to protect law-abiding citizens.
I don’t know how most blacks feel but I know many who think the “left” uses blacks to gain the support of blacks. Sad that blacks and other minorities let themselves be used by these hate-filled leftists.
What about all the black slave holders? Some of which owned dozens of slaves and were very rich. What about all the black Africans who captured and sold other blacks to slave traders? Robert E. Lee wanted to end slavery. KKK members were all Democrats, so let’s get rid of the Democrat party based on their support for Jim Crow regs. The statue issue is a total red herring to make conservatives look bad when racism was a platform of the Dems! For decades.
Only 50%? That it isn’t higher than that is very telling about the quality of today’s American Citizens.
{HATE & RAGE RACISTS & ANARCHISTS & ISLAMIC TERRORISTS} – ALL HAVE A *COMMON CORE* AT THE *SPIRITUAL* LEVEL !!!
IT IS SIMPLY *EVIL FORCES* DEDICATED TO > THE *OVERTHROW* OF THE U.S. WHICH IS A *MUST* FOR > THEIR *DEMONIC ISLAMIC* (NWO) TO BRUTALLY RULE THE PLANET!!! THAT IS THE *DEVIL’S* AGENDA – LEADING TO HIS *BEAST* SYSTEM (GLOBAL TOTALITARIAN ORDER) *DICTATORSHIP* > REIGNED OVER BY THE *ANTI-CHRIST*
THANK YOU “GOD” FOR MASSIVE SUPERNATURAL *EXORCISMS* OF “DELIVERANCE” FOR ALL THOSE *ENSLAVED* & THANK YOU LORD FOR TAKING (BACK) AMERICA FROM THE *DARK-SIDE* & FOR ESTABLISHING YOUR “KINGDOM” ON EARTH – AS IT IS IN “HEAVEN” > THEN WE (ALL) WIN !!!
AMEN AMEN AMEN
HAHA GOD DOES NOT SUPPORT FILTHY PIG HOLLYWOOD JEWS OR THE QUEER DEVILS OCUPYING ISRAEL .
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What makes these African Americans think the DEMOCRATS are going to help them now??? They have NEVER helped them before. Obama NEVER helped them. Donald Trump is even doing something that Obama promised he’d do; but he LIED. He promised his OWN people in downtown Chicago that he would get them out of poverty and rid the streets of all the gangs and drugs. But one of the 1st thing that Donald Trump did was call many of the EX-gang members to the table at the White House and they all prepared a plan. Money was put into these men’s hands and centers were built so the young people would have a place to go instead of being on the streets. And many other changes have taken place also. So I say keep on DEMOCRATS. You IDIOTS are sinking lower and lower as far a FUNDS go. And the Democratic Party is also LOSING supporters by the day. Because they are doing NOTHING but spending TAX PAYER’S money for doing NOTHING. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!!!!
America was built and strengthened by the inalienable God-given rights through all the difficult conflicts between passionately opposing views. To destroy these beautiful landmarks at this point does not promote the freedoms that the Founding Fathers espouse.
I’ve said this before after another article. I think we should give them California. The state wants to sucede from this country. Let them run it the way the see fit… and let’s see what happens.
To the black American (and their leftist supporters): what has your idol, Barry Soetoro Oblunder, done in eight years to uplift the black American? Welfare? Free phones? Section 8 and even free housing?
How about employment?
Abraham Lincoln fought for black rights while KKK Grand Wizard Robert Byrd to his last breath hated blacks. These libs are just using you. Please wake up!
Destruction, Rioting, Violence are not AMERICAN Rights!–(They spread retaliatory Hate & Hurt)–are not the ways Founders of Nation & Constitution wanted change to occur!
THEY GAVE US RIGHTS TO AIR GRIEVANCES–MAKE CHANGES THE RIGHT WAY–American Democratic Way (Rights they were denied.)
I perceive susceptible, uneducated individuals being used to usurp Democracy in America and replace amiability with something evil.
Joseph E Hicswa WWII Vet – Pro-life Democrat (NJ).
Its the NAZI’S on one side and the Bolshevik’s on the other side. Both despicable thug entities. The words Trump should have used instead of “good people” is PEACEFUL PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES.
Ig civil war is really what they want, they are on the right path. They are also fools. They would be defeated in in a month.
Got a pretty good idea if they keep pushing their idiotic agenda a can of whoop ass will come their way.
Our statues are sacrosanct and must be protected by law, any destruction of the sacred monuments should be treated as a hate crime no different than destroying black churches and synagogues!
I can only imagine God Almighty is looking down on this earth right now and shaking His head with disgust while saying to His beloved Son, Jesus Christ, “They maybe in Our image alright, but let’s face it, We have created a bunch of stupid children who wouldn’t know the difference between right and wrong even if it came up and slap them square in the face. I think it’s time to send them another earthquake or hurricane or both because of their disobedience.”
I’m sick and tired of the Liberals and Democrats pandering to people just to get votes. I’m also tired of the 20 something age people who have done nothing with their lives so they believe they are making a difference by protesting and the use of violence in our streets to “belong.” Try enlisting in our armed forces if you want to make a difference but you won’t because you are nothing but cowardly masked bullies. This is a great country, and if you don’t agree you are free to leave. Try the Middle East. They would put you in your place very quickly. Just a generation of spoiled brats raised by overindulgebt parents who depend on others to pay your debts.
I question how in the world they are permitted to do this!
It’s really quite simple. We’ve now raised 2 generations of confused, bewildered, weak and gutless individuals who have been convinced by the public indoctrination system that the only evil is “intolerance”, that there is no such thing as evil, that “diversity” is strength and that “all cultures are equal”. After all that brainwashing (for which taxpayers have stupidly paid) what would you expect?
Yes, intolerance is evil…..except for their own!
The extreme left are the naziis in this chaos. Basically, these thugs are pansies and cowards with their silly masks. They are funded by communists like George Soros, who is trying to destroy America, and his money will not help. As a veteran, NRA member and a lifelong Democrat, I want these fools to know that they will not succeed.
JEWS are LESS than 2% ,BLACKS LESS than 9% if half of the blacks and Jews support this CRAP that makes around 6% of our people doing this stunt!!!!!
They will be destroyed at the first real FIGHT!
I agree, removing these monuments or covering them up will only make race relations worse in this country. I know I am not a prejudiced person, I could care less what the color of your skin is, but to remove these monuments makes me angry and I am sure that will have an impact on how I think in the future. These monuments have not been a problem for all the years they have been around and now that ANTIFA and BLM want them removed, or any other racist organization for that matter, we are supposed to buckle and let it happen. My husband has a family member who fought and died during the Civil War, I consider these monuments to recognize his sacrifice. If we are forced to remove them then he will have died in vain, not to mention plenty of young black soldiers who died as well. As Americans we cannot allow this to happen. You want to disarm racism, then stop putting so much emphasis on skin color. Of course, that is just too simple for such a complex problem, huh? Actually, no, it really is that simple.
Antifa and BLM are the biggest racist on the planet.
Well i may not be able to stop them, but like the flag they will have a hard time tearing it down with broken arms. I have already told my wife, when it comes to the American Flag and other sacred objects, get the bail money, because it won’t happen in front of me…USAF 86
Leave the monuments alone. I was in the war that ended the NAZI era. And that war was for freedom.
If we don’t recognize sacrifices made by others that brought about “Monuments” Then we aren’t willing to
understand what has made America.
You got that right.
Thanks for your service.
Let’s thank the lib dems for inciting the animals to destroy our history. Both good men of the South and North died
America agrees with The President, we all here are posting that we agree that Historical Statues should stay, We the Republicans have won the election and we have the Majority in the Senate and in the Congress, if this is the FACT, how come we are loosing everything that we believe in, to these Hoodlums ( I call them.Domestic Terrorists) ? If a white person says ” Destroying the Historical Statues is wrong” He/She is labeled Nazi. WTF is this? I think we the decent people are too peaceful, I don’t like violence but some times it is necessary to fight for our RIGHTS!
What you are seeing is the Democrat party commiting suicide. Stand back and clap for them.
Eight long years, when Obama was running the Country, these Liberal Socialist ” to me they are Communists” never attempted to destroy the Historical Statues, Obama never mentioned that Confederate Statues should go!
Suddenly after these Hoodlums lost the election, DemocRats came with the RUSSIAN CONNECTION, it fizzled down because it was fake, then DemocRats had to come up with another reason to demonstrate, Confederate Statues! What will happen after all the Statues are destroyed? LIncoln Memorial or Mt. Rushmore/ All the street names carry the Confederate Generals, Politicians, very last The CONSTITUTION? Only one way to stop these nonsense; Nov. 8 2018 vote out the Old Guards from both Parties and vote for the People who are patriots, who love the Flag and the Country.
May be I am wishing too much people, but miracles can happen with the help of Almighty.
This morning I have listened passages from the Hillary’s New Book, she said that during the debates President was standing in the back and she felt like saying “Back off Creep” I was laughing my ass off; If I had the chance to face this woman, I would have said to her “You have Creep in your family and He is still creeping after Ladies”
Hillary is the creep!
As long as the blacks are tearing things down, can they include the steaming pile of horse-crap in the Washington Mall, that purports to be a black museum? — Ugly! and right in the midst of lovely classical monuments, which of course the statue-bangers hate.
It should not be allowed to happen, hey Trump, how about an executive order. It is ransom being paid to terrorists who threaten to burn, riot and loot if it isn’t done, then the bastards will find another reason to riot anyway.
SAD???? It’s disgraceful!!! Why is it being allowed in the first place? Don’t we have any laws protecting the symbols of our heritage? Good, bad, ugly or indifferent–it IS all there in the American history!! Don’t ‘like’ it? Then don’t ‘repeat’ it!! Mostly, don’t forget, it’s all been done before and ‘learn’ from it!!
Why is the Antiquities Act being ignored? Doesn’t it give federal protection to the monuments and statues?
Good point! Needs looking into!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/states-confederate-statue-laws_us_5996312be4b0e8cc855cb2ab Antiquities Act appears to cover Parks. So who protects Stone Mountain, GA. from loonies with explosives ? Once they are gone, they are gone. https://www.revolvy.com/topic/Destruction+of+cultural+heritage+by+ISIL&stype=videos. Yesterday ISIL. Today the left, BLM, CAIR. Tomorrow who ? Like thwarted toddlers having tantrums.
They just might get the civil war they want. If they want war so bad come to my area and I will give it to the bastards.
Follow the money , bet it come from someone or group that believes in the new world order . No matter how many works of art are ruined by the clowns working for whomever history will not be changed . The few dolts sucked up into the destruction of our statues are on the wrong side of the history being created in these moments of time . The dolts should be stopped by those whom have been given the power to protect our national , state and local monuments that are there to remind us of our history . History is to be learned from and the lessons learned should be revered . Good should be repeated , bad should not be repeated both need to be remembered as part of our history .
Those that torn down statues should have to pay for the restoration of said statues .
If the clowns objecting to slavery really wanted to do good then why not go after those that are actually in the present possessing slaves ? Why not go after human trafficking ? Are the clowns afraid that they might get hurt by living beings ? Therefore they attack historical monuments that can’t fight back , yeah that shows the world what wussies these clowns actually are in reality . What are the clowns going to do burn history books just as what was done in other nations in their past history ? Ignorance is no excuse , stupidity is no excuse , peer pressure is no excuse , mob frenzy is no excuse , greed is no excuse , fame is no excuse to commit acts of criminal destruction of anything that belongs to others . Certain people that are certainly old enough to know better are pulling the strings of dolts and ignoramuses to commit said violent acts. These puppeteers should use their power for constructive ideology rather than destructive ideology . Upsetting to see historical stupidity being repeating there is no sense in such moronic behavior .
Just who do you think “America” is? Pigs, bigots and traitors like Trump? No we are patriotic supporters of constitutional government and do not agree with glorifying traitors.
and you sir are a liar
And you are as stupid as you look!
Your Founding Fathers were Rebels against their government and broke the oath they took as soldiers in King George’s armies. Had they been captured,they would have been hanged or shot for treason. You already glorify traitors. The Constitution had the chance to abolish slavery. It did not. Why not ? If you study your history you will realise those heroes were slave owners and exploiters who believed blacks were inferior, and who chickened out, when it actually came to “all men are equal ” and left it to “the next generation ” to sort out, while most of them reaped the benefits of slave labour. The Confederacy is just another case of one man’s traitor being another man’s Freedom Fighter. Why pick on them, now, unless for political and ideological agendas ?
You don’t know the meaning of “Patriate”
Also agree with Ms Mary C. 100% !
To take down Statue for the left on a whim tells me I definitely voted correctly…Don’t ever want to vote Left again and I think Left news inaccurate, on purpose left out news reporting sights riots, discontent, and is treason in news
reporting!
To many illegals and legals have come in America and don’t care about our history. This is what happens when you bring so many people from other cultures to America! They don’t care about past history or Christian prayer.
Our country ( formerly AMERICA ) is coming to its end in existence !!!!!!! We are doomed as a nation and will soon cease to exist……… I hope all the democrats ( Communists ) are happy. I will not be around to see most of it……….
GOODBY AMERICA …………………………… The end has arrived ……………………………………………………………………..
I am not sad, I am absolutely enraged!
When does it all end? Will we be left with a grey concrete slab to worship. Some will say, we do not want a square concrete slab, that offends us. We want a round concrete slab.
These people are acting like the old Soviet Bolshevik’s and using ISIS style tactic’s. Like the statues of Palmyra, Turkey, these creeps are trying to erase History and our Heritage. I see Real trouble coming from these creeps.
NAACPLeader: I Disapprove Of Pulling Down Confederate Statues
“You can’t eliminate what history is. So I disapprove with young people pulling down those statues.”
thefederalist.com/2017/08/16/naacp-leader-disapprove-pulling-confederate-statues/
AUGUST 16, 2017 – – By The Federalist Staff
A top NAACP leader on Tuesday publicly spoke out against the move to tear down memorials to Confederate soldiers in the wake of racial violence in Charlottesville, saying that destroying a statue won’t change our nation’s history. Esther M. Lee, the president of the Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, chapter of the NAACP, told a local news station that violence around the issue was simply not worth it.
“You know that’s history. That was in that point in time,” Lee said, according to WFMZ. “You can’t eliminate what history is. So I disapprove with young people pulling down those statues.”
Destruction of the Soviet Union starts with demolition statues…
You know, UPenn’s English Department took down a portrait of Shakespeare – Shakespeare! and replaced it with a picture of some black female obscure writer. Forget all those statues. When they take down a picture of the greatest writer of the English language in an English department in one of the finest universities in America for the sake of some second rate black woman writer, query: is our entire culture under attack?
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Enough said !!!
I do not know who the “America” you refer to in your headline but as Texan in the seventh generation of my family on the same soil, we have come up with an idea to rededicate some confederate statues to remember gay people who died of AIDS in the pandemic by building parks around them with those brave names prominently displayed.
Brave people died defending the policies they believed in wether they were pro-confederate or pro-union.
Those participating in either unprotected, maybe overly promiscuous sex and/or illegal drug activities did little worthy of valor.
As most know South Texas is getting hammered by the Hurricane. This is what I do for a living & Mose people are grateful for us coming in to restore power. Just understand first of all this damage has to be Assessed, then the material has to be ordered and shipped in because no one keeps that much material on hand for such a devastating storm. Food, water sleeping quarters etc.
if any of have ever felt with FEMA then you know they are no help for any of the restoration crews. We just asked for patience and understanding. And I thank you goes a long way !!
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It is done barnjoer. And may God protect you and the people effected by this storm. Unfortunately too much attention is to Hate groups of all types,and some spoiled football players and not enough is about the real issues that this storm is causing…God Bless and be safe and thank you for being there…
Anyone caught defacing, destroying or participating in any attempt must be arrested, charged and imprisoned for many years. That is the only thing these mental midgets understand. Leave it to our liberal judges, though, to continue to promote them by doing nothing to them. They are sickening and need to be put out to pasture.
Antifa is jealous and wants to outshine ISIS in terrorism.
If they keep pushing, they will get a reaction. Not “sadness” but rage and, if they think what they’re doing to unarmed middle class Americans is “violence”… they ain’t seen nothing yet.
We keep hearing that this is what the left wants because, if we react it will “tear the country down” (which they’re already doing). However, what they may be overlooking is that middle class America is better armed, and has more combat trained and experienced vets that their snowflakes. They may succeed in damaging our country but they’ll all be dead too soon to enjoy it! The tree of liberty will receive it’s needed refreshment! Semper Fi!!
I’ve got one question. If there are more people who do not want the memorials and statues removed and destroyed, then why are the “few” getting their way. STOP THIS INSANITY!
Why do people say Democrat? There are no more Democrats, they are now; Communists, Socialists, Marxists and Real Leftists. Some of these people don’t know what they are, so they just fall in line with whomever.
Because you loose in life or in battle it should not be that your memory got to be wiped out. One thing is to celebrate and another is to commemorate. Mr. Trump and Americans who follow him are right.
They are tearing down statues. What’s next?. Art museums. Burning books?. Burning Bibles.? Raiding people’s homes and stealing their things because they are different or believe differently from them ? Does any of this sound familiar.??? Hitler’s troops taking over Germany, and other countries and robbing people, killing them, destroying everything they had and everything they were. It’s where we are headed if we don’t stop these disgusting, heathen, traitors.!!!!! They hide behind masks. Why? Who are they hiding from? The law? Their families and friends? A bunch of stinking cowards.
Amazing what Soros’ money can buy. He is determined to destroy this country and has so stated. He has bought and paid for too many politicians and most of them are the firmly entrenched. We are running out of time to drain the swamp and enforce the laws of this country.
You said the Democrats decided they have a “winning” issue on their hands. Don’t you mean “whining” issue on their hands?
NAACPLeader: I Disapprove Of Pulling Down Confederate Statues
“You can’t eliminate what history is. So I disapprove with young people pulling down those statues.”
thefederalist.com/2017/08/16/naacp-leader-disapprove-pulling-confederate-statues/
AUGUST 16, 2017 – – By The Federalist Staff
A top NAACP leader on Tuesday publicly spoke out against the move to tear down memorials to Confederate soldiers in the wake of racial violence in Charlottesville, saying that destroying a statue won’t change our nation’s history. Esther M. Lee, the president of the Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, chapter of the NAACP, told a local news station that violence around the issue was simply not worth it.
“You know that’s history. That was in that point in time,” Lee said, according to WFMZ. “You can’t eliminate what history is. So I disapprove with young people pulling down those statues.”
Make no mistake about it, White genocide is the Antifa goal. A race war is not a civil war.
Antifa left-wing militants are the American version of ISIL.
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Prosecute the destroyers.
Removing these statues will not help the leftist, it only splits the country further apart, too bad every one removed so far can’t be replaced somehow by these communities with another one with a plaque explaining their true meaning of heritage, the valor.
It is ironic that from sanctuary cities to medical marijuana today’s left promotes the Confederate doctrine of nullification. I was always taught that the Civil War had decided that issue forever, but it appears John C. Calhoun is alive and living in San Francisco.
it’s a crying shame for these lying bigots to publicly pretend they have some ethical reason to hate our ancestors, history and Country. They only hate our white ones and they can’t SPELL ethics! They’re trashing our history, because they’re imitating righteous indignation, which they can’t even pronounce. These ass hats sit around the house whining about what white people did to them, like the b. s. fake muslims, who made a religion of it, because it’s tax free money, so they have an EXCUSE to do nothing, which they’ve perfected. It’s just more crap created by obama, using the money he stole, because they wouldn’t turn off the television unless there was money in it. He never did. Every time he was ambulatory, he was up to somethin’. I’m glad PRESIDENT Trump rebuilt the interior of the White House and finally got that smell out’a there!
STOP THE JEWISH NAZI SUPREMACIST MAFIA EMPOWERING RACIST BLACKS TO HELP THESE ANTI AMERICAN JEWS DESTROY OUR COUNTRY!
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Yeah, and don’t forget to blame Jews for Storm Harvey as well. But who do we blame for you ?
The damage done to America by the Anti American Anti Christ Jewish Nazi Supremacist exceeds the damage done in Texas by the hurricane . God is punishing America for all the innocent people we killed in the Middle East the past 17 years for killer DRUG PORN PUSHING PIG JEWS
STOP THE DEVIL PIG JEWS
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Please seek help.
It is the unnecessary, foolish and wasteful destruction of antiquities of American history. Islamists have been doing this exact same thing for centuries with anything that is not Islamist. As you can now see, it is the Islamists, with help of the Demoncrats, that are now creating their stronghold influence on America today. This is just the beginning of their goal and long-held plan to make America an Islamist nation.
I have had it with these lefturds. They will deserve whatever they get, as long as it’s bad and permanent.
The left sees these statues as competition. They are hollow shells just like them. Metallic strawmen.
STOP THE JEWISH NAZI SUPREMACIST WHO OWN AND CONTROL CROOKED PRESIDENTS LIKE BOTH BUSH TRAITORS BARACK COCAINE QUEER OBAMA AND LYING BJ BILL CLINTON !
During his two terms in office, President George W. Bush made 330 judicial appointments.[1] He nominated three individuals to the Supreme Court, but only had two confirmed: Chief Justice John G. Roberts and Samuel Alito. Harriet Miers withdrew her nomination before the confirmation process began.
For a full list of the President Bush’s nominees, see: Federal judges nominated by George W. Bush. For archived information from The White House on his nominees, see: The White House President George W. Bush.
During his term in office, President George H.W. Bush made 194 judicial appointments.[1] He nominated (and had confirmed) two justices of the Supreme Court: David Souter and Clarence Thomas.
For a full list of the President Bush’s nominees, see: Federal judges nominated by George H.W. Bush.
During his two terms in office, President Bill Clinton made 379 judicial appointments.[1] Among those were two justices nominated (and confirmed) to the Supreme Court: Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer.
For a full list of the President Clinton’s nominees, see: Federal judges nominated by Bill Clinton.
During his two terms in office, President Barack Obama made 333 judicial appointments.[1] He nominated three individuals to serve as justices of the Supreme Court of the United States, but only had two confirmed: Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan. Merrick Garland, President Obama’s last nominee to the Supreme Court, had no action taken in the U.S. Senate on his nomination.
For a full list of President Obama’s nominees, see: Federal judges nominated by Barack Obama.
TRUMP ONLY ONE!
LETS HOPE JEWS DON’T KILL TRUMP
LIKE THEY DID JFK MLK BOBBY KENNEDY AND JIMMY HOFFA!
AND JFK JR.
JEWS LIKE DISNEY QUEERS ARE KILLING OUR COUNTRY.
As this is his first term, President Donald Trump is still appointing judges to serve on the federal courts. So far, he has nominated Judge Neil Gorsuch to the U.S. Supreme Court.
For a full list of the president’s nominees, see: Federal judges nominated by Donald Trump.
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my ancesters fought for the north but I stil liked the southern generals statues
start removing all mlk statues
COMMUNIST TRYING TO ERASE AMERICAN HISTORY IT”S WHAT THEY DO WAKE UP AMERICA YOUR WAY OF LIFE IS UNDER ATTACK AND HAS BEEN FOR ALONG TIME THIS MUST BE STOPPED AT ALL COST !!!
What should be removed from the history of this country is anything to do with phony heroes like Martin “Lucifer” king. No federal holiday for this commie troublemaker who did nothing but stir up racial tensions and staging the Rosa Parks fiasco.
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