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Democrats Use Abortion to Steal Our Freedom

Posted On 05 Sep 2016
By : Restore American Glory
Comments: 257

If the Democratic Party were to come up with an honest mission statement, it would look something like this: “To put an end to individual freedom.” Individual freedom is on one end of a spectrum. On the other side: Enslavement.

Now, there are some dumb Democrats, but none of them are dumb enough to think that this motto is anything but a non-starter. So they’ve buried their central philosophy so deeply that it can never be found by the average, barely-awake American voter. They know they can never tell the people the truth about their objectives. They know they can’t get people to willingly vote their freedoms away…if they understand that’s what they’re doing. So they have devised hundreds of ways to sneakily accomplish their goals without arousing that terrible beast known as rational intelligence.

One of their most devious tricks: The fight over abortion.

Never underestimate the devil’s capacity for cunning. In the debate over abortion, Democrats have convinced millions of Americans that THEY are the ones on the side of freedom. Why, the very name of their movement – PRO-CHOICE – sounds like something you might read on the Liberty Bell.

This is where you have to actually sit down and use that magnificent tool God bestowed on each of us: the logical mind. And when you do, you will see the trick. You will see that freedom does not mean a country without laws. That’s a very simple concept to understand when it comes to rape and murder and robbery, but somehow liberals have gotten people to believe that wholesale infanticide is something different. That it’s perfectly okay.

Key point: If “freedom” requires you to disavow everything you know in your heart about right and wrong, that’s not really freedom. That’s brainwashing.

Through abortion (and other, inter-related aspects of feminism), liberals have stolen true happiness from three generations of American women and, in the process, have systematically dismantled the family structure. Household incomes have dwindled and government dependency has grown.

Just as planned.

But it may even be worse than that. There’s no way to prove, scientifically, that our annual slaughter of one million unborn babies is having a corrosive effect on our national psyche, but how could it be otherwise? We’re beyond the point where abortion is legal but despised. It’s now celebrated! It’s a point of pride for many feminists! You don’t think that sick philosophy might be damaging to our collective spirit?

When we decide that everything is random and nothing really matters – not even something as basic as life itself – a species of dark hopelessness descends. If we can casually turn so many lives into toxic waste, what possible meaning could our own lives have? If abortion is “right” then…what’s “wrong?”

These are the questions Democrats don’t want people to ask, because they have no good answers. They have no good answers because the premise is insane. And if you spend too much time thinking about it, you cannot come to any other conclusion.

The beginning of consciousness – true consciousness – is the end of enslavement.

It’s time for America as a whole to break free of these chains.

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  1. R M September 7, 2016 at 4:18 pm Reply

    I don’t recall any law that forces anyone to have an abortion the individuals or couples make that choice. If the people that don’t like the idea of abortion they should have a good argument to convince people that they are right which they don’t so they want the government to do it for them which make them the same as those that you claim are being enslaved.

    • rocky63 September 7, 2016 at 5:59 pm Reply

      I don’t recall any law that forces anyone to commit murder, though there are individuals who make that choice.

      We’ve become a nation without standards of decency. When people think killing babies “is no big deal” they have become blind to decent behavior.

      • R M September 7, 2016 at 10:10 pm Reply

        Ok rocky we will send all the unwanted children to you to support but no government funds will be given to support them.

        • rocky63 September 8, 2016 at 5:04 pm Reply

          Typically stupid reply. You seem to assume all women who have babies have to raise the babies on their own. Are you aware of the fact that there a millions of American families that have both a father and a mother raising their children?

          I know there are many unmarried women who have abortions and for many of them raising the child would be a problem. But, why are unmarried women, if they weren’t raped, engaging in sex resulting in a pregnancy. If they chose to perform the act which causes pregnancy, and then choose to destroy the result of that action, they are fully at fault. If they were raped, the whole issue is different and they would have my sympathy.

          By the way, if a married woman, pregnant from sex with her husband, decides to kill the child does the father have any say in the matter? Not as far as liberals like are concerned. You have lost sight of the fact that, in such a case, the child is the child of a family — not just of the mother.

          • April Torres September 8, 2016 at 6:20 pm

            well said, Rocky!

          • rocky63 September 8, 2016 at 11:30 pm

            Thank you, Ma’am.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 12:51 am

            What part of it was well said, in your opinion?

          • R M September 8, 2016 at 7:51 pm

            Well just like the liberal media who hears what they want you read want it to say not what it said..

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 12:51 am

            You are making an assumption here, namely that a married woman who becomes pregnant terminates the pregnancy without her husband;s consent. That may well happen, but it is also quite possible that they talk the matter over and come to the very difficult decision jointly. You simply do not know the circumstances that led to the pregnancy (birth control sometimes fails you know) and you have no idea about the family circumstances.

            I can think of dozens of scenarios in which another child is not in any way good for the family. I sort of feel that you have not met many ‘liberals’. In my experience, they (we) are quite nice people with considerable sympathy for the less fortunate, and/or those in an unfortunate situation.

        • April Torres September 8, 2016 at 6:19 pm Reply

          It’s their (females) responsibility to close their legs and / or protect themselves. No excuse why they can’t.

          • R M September 8, 2016 at 7:56 pm

            Just because you don’t like sex does not mean everyone is that way. Birth control is not 100% effective regardless of what they say. As for rape and incest it is WRONG and no one should be forced to carry or raise a child they didn’t ask for or want.

  2. Elizabeth Whitehouse September 7, 2016 at 5:05 pm Reply

    Although I am not convinced that God bestowed a logical mind on each of us, I am pretty sure he missed the writer of this opinion piece. Let’s start with the title: Democrats Use Abortion to Steal Our Freedom. Logically speaking, why would they want to steal anyone’s freedom? Is there a logical way for them to do that without reducing their own freedom?

    The anonymous ‘admin’ states that “freedom does not mean a country without laws”, with which I agree. But abortion is legal. As are alcohol and tobacco. On the other hand marijuana is (mostly) illegal. Where’s the logic in that?

    He (no way it could be a woman) also claims that abortion is celebrated. He couldn’t be more wrong. No girl ever says when I grow up I want to have an abortion. Very few women even speak about terminating a pregnancy let alone boast about it. No doctor celebrates having performed a record number of abortions. The goal of Planned Parenthood is not to perform more abortions, but rather to do away with the need for them.

    • rocky63 September 7, 2016 at 5:57 pm Reply

      Sorry, the goal for Planned Parenthood is NOT to do away with the need for them. How does performing abortions at any time, for any reason, on demand — how does that REDUCE the number of abortions.

      The goals for Planned Parenthood are:
      1. Make lots of money
      2. Carry out the vision of Margaret Sanger, the founder, who believed that abortions to reduce the number of black babies born and therefore reduce the black population was a policy to pursue, which she did and which PP continues.

      • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 7, 2016 at 9:08 pm Reply

        I respectfully suggest that you are not really familiar with the work that Planned Parenthood does. Their facility in the town where I live is known as the Margaret Sanger-Katherine Houghton Hepburn Clinic. Sanger was raised here and Hepburn (mother of the actress) was part of the family that owned the company which dominates the town. So in a sense, PP was born here. Whatever you may have read about Margaret Sanger, her goal was to reduce poverty, regardless of race.

        Obviously I expressed myself a way that you were unable to understand. Whatever you say, the goal of PLANNED parenthood is for women to have children when they are ready to – and at no other time. Their goal is the elimination of unwanted children, and the poverty that frequently is associated with having children when you cannot afford them. And if a woman does not have an unplanned pregnancy, she does not need an abortion. So, PP does a lot of education makes contraception available to anyone who needs it. No one is turned away because of inability to pay, which is why they are constantly fund-raising.

        • rocky63 September 7, 2016 at 9:29 pm Reply

          You’re really wrong about Sanger. Her stated purpose for the American Birth Control League was: “We hold that children should be (1) Conceived in love; (2) Born of the
          mother’s conscious desire; (3) And only begotten under conditions which
          render possible the heritage of health. Therefore we hold that every
          woman must possess the power and freedom to prevent conception except
          when these conditions can be satisfied.”

          Notice Sanger talks about “preventing” conception, not ending the life of the child who results from the conception.

          My use of the word “you” is not intended to apply to YOU personally, but refers generically to a woman.

          I agree children should be conceived in love. They should not be conceived because a man and woman decided to “hook up” one Saturday night after a few drinks. Any woman who has not been raped, and is pregnant, is in that condition because she CHOSE to do that which causes pregnancy. If she chooses to engage in intercourse, refusing to accept responsibility for the resulting child is grossly immoral and depriving the child of life because of a choice the MOTHER made is indefensible. If you believe children should be conceived in love than your engagement in intercourse should be with a man you love, who loves you. If your pregnancy is because you “wanted to have some fun” should the child really be the one that pays for your irresponsible behavior?

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 7, 2016 at 9:45 pm

            Rocky, women do not get pregnant by themselves. How about saying If HE chooses to engage in intercourse, refusing to accept responsibility for the resulting child is grossly immoral? If men were the ones who get pregnant, gave birth and then had to care for the child for at least 18 years, we would not be having this conversation.

            And I am not wrong about Sanger – you have just provided proof that she was all about preventing conception, not someone who (as you stated earlier) “believed that abortions to reduce the number of black babies born and
            therefore reduce the black population was a policy to pursue”.

          • rocky63 September 8, 2016 at 4:46 pm

            If HE engages in intercourse and she doesn’t wish to, that’s rape. Note I addressed “any woman who is not raped”. I said when SHE chooses to engage in intercourse because if she hasn’t it’s rape, and a resulting pregnancy puts the woman in a situation not of her choosing. In that case, her decision is difficult, but I accept that it’s her decision in that case.

            You’re wrong about “we would not be engaging in this conversation”. If men got pregnant as a result of voluntary intercourse, their choice of abortion to end their pregnancy would be just as immoral and selfish as when a woman makes that choice.

            Your statement that we would not have this conversation if men got pregnant is just rabid femininity in action. You have no basis for that statement as you cannot find even a single case of male pregnancy. So you just choose (as so many of your sisters do) to assume men are selfish, mean, evil, etc.

            Have you ever considered the case of a married woman who is pregnant as a result of loving and mutually consensual intercourse with her husband, then she chooses abortion. If the husband wants the child, his child as well as hers, does he have any say in the matter? I’m sure, given your comments, that you are totally content with the man having no right, no say-so as to whether a child, which is his as well as hers, is aborted, cut up and sold for parts, as PP does for financial purposes.

            We allow abortion for any reason, or no reason at all. If she chooses abortion so she won’t miss that planned trip to Paris, that’s OK with you and PP. I think it’s the epitome of selfishness and evil. By the way, I have 4 daughters and I provided care for them for 18 years plus, as did my loving wife.

    • Daniel Hoffman September 8, 2016 at 1:40 am Reply

      Why would a democrat want to steal freedom ? You have to be kidding or living under a rock. Why to they want to kill the second amendment freedoms ? Why do they want to keep blacks behind ? Just look at every major city run by Democrats. They want control. They patronize blacks and tell them they will improve their lives and they have done just the opposite. What they do want is the black vote and they never do crap but make them more dependent.

      • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 1:54 am Reply

        Saying that I must be living under a rock, does not answer my question. So I repeat, why would Democrats want to steal freedom? (Their own included)

        Practically all major cities are run by Democrats. I wonder why that is.

        It is unfortunately true that Democrats have not done enough to improve the lives of blacks. What have Republicans done?

        • Jp September 8, 2016 at 12:25 pm Reply

          Democrats have done nothing but give and give to the blacks. What’s that gotten anyone?

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 1:26 pm

            That doesn’t answer my question: what have Republicans done?

          • Robert Early September 9, 2016 at 4:47 pm

            What have “uncompassionate” Republicans done? For one thing, they have adopted tens of thousands of unwanted children.
            Of course, there are a few liberal
            celebs who go to Africa to adopt a black child as a show of their racial maturity and compassion.
            No doubt, some conservatives have done the same. My point is, don’t we have enough children to adopt right here?
            Your claim of white, liberal, compassionate doctors is about as arrogant, racist, and ignorant as one can be.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 7:41 pm

            It is possible that I have missed the tens of thousands of children adopted by republicans.

            I do not remember saying that abortion doctors are white and liberal, although I do agree that they are compassionate. Even if I had said that, how is it arrogant, racist and ignorant?

      • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 3:01 pm Reply

        Why do you feel the need to loe asshole. Holy fuck pull yourhead out of your ass. If you wannt to see a loss of rights look at the Patriot Act. Signed sealed and delivered courtesy of the GOP

  3. David Stewart September 7, 2016 at 8:09 pm Reply

    I am torn in the abortion issue; I believe it is wrong but on the other hand, it keeps a certain part of our population in control. What to do?

    • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 7, 2016 at 10:15 pm Reply

      So you are against abortion, but favor eugenics? Is that what you are saying?

      • Robert Early September 8, 2016 at 5:44 am Reply

        36 % of abortions are black babies. In other words, five times as many black babies are aborted than white babies.
        Of course, by far most abortion doctors are white, liberal Democrats. No surprize there, huh ?

        • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 2:24 pm Reply

          What you say is true – more black babies are aborted than white. Could that have anything to do with the fact that 27% of blacks live below the poverty line? Or that blacks score lower than any other demographic group on every educational test there is?

          These are the people who are least prepared to have children. And, no, it s no surprise that most abortion doctors are white, liberal Democrats, because that is a group that is also compassionate and cares about quality of life.

          Pro-lifers should rather be called pro-birthers because they care very little about what happens to mother and child after the “blessed event”.

          • Robert Early September 9, 2016 at 4:23 pm

            So, just making sure I understand you clearly: You are saying that because black children are poor, less educated, under-priviledged, and fall short of whites intellectually, the solution is to simply kill them because this is the “compassionate” thing to do.
            Is this correct?

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 7:35 pm

            Not even close.

            Let me spell out my views in words of one syllable (as far as I can – some essential words like American have multiple syllables)

            The fact that 27% of black Americans live below the bread line is not good. One result of this poverty is lack of access to health care. Another is poor education. The result is absolutely that black children are poor, less educated, under-privileged, and fall short of whites intellectually.

            It is also the reason why many black mothers-to-be chose to terminate their pregnancies. If you have few prospects for a better future, do you really want to produce children whose prospects will be even more bleak?

  4. sturgis September 7, 2016 at 8:10 pm Reply

    Since when should we pay for this?! If we don’t want to, we shouldn’t have to!

    • greenlantern1 September 7, 2016 at 8:59 pm Reply

      The same reason that you are taxed for the physical care of prisoners.

      • sturgis September 7, 2016 at 10:58 pm Reply

        No shit!

      • Daniel Hoffman September 8, 2016 at 1:32 am Reply

        Not even close. Abortion is a choice to kill. Taxes paid to the gov. to keep prisoners in jail is for the safety of all. I don’t want one cent of my income spent to kill babies because someone finds screwing and killing the baby that results more palatable than having the courage and will withal to do what is right.

        • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 2:59 pm Reply

          Fine I don’t want one cent of my taxes to got to big business

          • maxx September 9, 2016 at 2:47 am

            Then write or talk to your government representatives.

          • quickenator September 11, 2016 at 1:29 am

            I sure as hell support abortion because it is a part of womens health you fucking ignorant religitarfd. OPh yeah prove god exist ass munch. Yes the onus ids pon you fucktard.

          • localhistorywriter September 11, 2016 at 4:18 pm

            It’s so funny that you pssy fairies always like to talk dirty.
            Do you think it makes you sound like a man, tinkerbell?
            Not even close.

            You talk trash because you ARE trash. You got a potty mouth and an assho/e full of every STD on the planet.

            Go die of AIDS, you vulgar old piggy.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 11, 2016 at 5:17 pm

            Well, look at the pot calling the kettle black.

          • maxx September 12, 2016 at 8:58 pm

            Do you actually eat with that mouth? Or speak to your mother and dad with it?

        • greenlantern1 September 8, 2016 at 5:14 pm Reply

          Kill?
          Name ONE state that carries the death penalty for abortions!

          • maxx September 9, 2016 at 2:46 am

            You are really stupid. D.H. never said anything about a death penalty for abortion. But making a choice to have an abortion is giving a death sentence to the baby. Or do you not know that is what abortion does to the baby?

          • greenlantern1 September 10, 2016 at 9:03 pm

            Baby?
            The killing, of a baby, is murder!
            Ever hear of the MOUNTAIN MEADOWS MASSACRE?
            Mass murder!!

        • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 2:35 am Reply

          And what is doing what is right? Do you have some particular actions in mind?

      • maxx September 9, 2016 at 2:39 am Reply

        That is a liberal program. Used to be prisoners had to perform work to support the cost of their care. But liberals found that to be inhumane. So now they get better treatment than most non criminals working to support themselves every day. I hear they still have “chain gangs” down south where the climate is better. I read a report or story about one state that was considering expanding the chain gang program by locking a “stun gun leg iron” on criminals and having them work on road construction and other projects that would require a minimal of supervision. If an inmate tries to flee they get a good jolt when they get a certain distance away from the command vehicle.

    • maxx September 9, 2016 at 2:29 am Reply

      The taxpayers paying for abortions was illegal until the democrat party made abortions their primary focus. Wonder why they have no problem removing a fetus from the mother and chopping it up into pieces for sale to the highest bidders but go ballistic when someone abuses a cat or dog? Probably because the child poses a threat to it’s mother and the dog or cat doesn’t.

      • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 2:33 am Reply

        Do you have proof (no one else does) that any organization has engaged in “removing a fetus from the mother and chopping it up into pieces for sale to the highest bidders”?

        I know many dogs and cats that are far nicer than commenters on restoreamericanglory.

        • maxx September 10, 2016 at 6:50 pm Reply

          Guess you haven’t paid much attention to the recorded video interviews of former P.P employees then. You might still be able to find them on the web but you probably don’t care to hear the truth about P.P. because the commenters speaking on the recordings aren’t “nicer” but are honest at least. Go vote for Clinton you deserve her.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 10, 2016 at 8:08 pm

            At least eight states launched investigations of Planned Parenthood after those heavily edited tapes were released. Not one found any evidence that PP was receiving compensation for fetal tissue. In some cases they were reimbursed for shipping and handling, a very common practice in these United States, but that’s it.

  5. Anton Ossa September 7, 2016 at 8:15 pm Reply

    PLEASE DO NOT USE MY TAX DOLLARS TO PAY FOR YOUR ABORTIONS!

    • greenlantern1 September 7, 2016 at 8:56 pm Reply

      Ever hear of the Mountain Meadows Massacre?
      Angered by the murder of children?

      • MorinMoss September 8, 2016 at 1:20 am Reply

        Only the lives of the unborn are sacred; once they’re born, they only matter if their parents are likely to vote Republican

        • Defend America September 8, 2016 at 3:23 am Reply

          Abortions are only legal if the parents vote Democrats….please make a statement with truth and meaning not some outrageous lie.

          • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 2:49 pm

            Damn you ate a fu (king moron

          • MorinMoss September 9, 2016 at 1:13 am

            “please make a statement with truth and meaning not some outrageous lie”

            Sure thing but beware what you wish for.
            Here goes – it’s been a long time since Republicans could recognize what is true

          • maxx September 9, 2016 at 2:14 am

            And that would be because all they ever hear from democrats is lies.

          • MorinMoss September 9, 2016 at 11:53 am

            Nixon wasn’t a Democrat

          • shamu9 September 12, 2016 at 1:51 pm

            Nixon was a Damned SAINT compared to the Conniving Demonic- Ratz you Dems. have been Running lately! I can’t believe that Hilde-Beast would have the Nerve to Appear in Public, after Benghazi and the rest o’ the B/S, much less Run for POTUS!

          • Defend America September 9, 2016 at 2:43 am

            You have your head screwed on backwards. Democrats are known liars. Hillary being the master of LIARS! Yes their are liars in both parties as it seems that money and power is most important to them…above and beyond their oath to serve the people and protect the country.

            We have confronted our party and have rose against them in protest when are the liberals going to face their parties liars and protest against them? Obama is a liar and a traitor and Hillary is the Queen of liars and evil…but you pulpits still support her and lie for her and Obama.

          • irish1919 September 10, 2016 at 5:11 am

            Ultimately power corrupts . This is more about concious. A majority of women who are pro choice may very well be democrats. Unfortunately not all. There are some who are not considered to be democrat . I think it comes down to concious . Some who are pro choice are church goers . My problem is tax payer funding. Don’t include me in your sins. I can sin enough on my own

          • Defend America September 12, 2016 at 2:03 am

            I agree with you about the taxpayers footing the bill …. but my main concern is for the unborn child. We are not God and only God has the right to take a life.

            Most abortions are not for medical reasons. They are for teenagers and adults who are not responsible and thinks that we the taxpayers should pay for their loose morals.

            What really gets my goat is we give money to these clinics…they inturn sell the babies body parts for more money then they turn around and donate to theClinton foundation. I find that deplorable.

          • MorinMoss September 10, 2016 at 5:22 am

            “We have confronted our party and have rose against them in protest”
            No, you picked an orange-hued LIAR who doesn’t want to be president, only to promote his brand.
            And your previous rightwingnut administrations have been RIFE ( or should I say RIPE) with corruption, not just Nixon. Even your golden Reagan was a baldfaced liar and you sycophantic chumps swallowed his LIES about Iran-Contra with a smile.
            But don’t worry, I don’t much care for Hillary and I really want Trump to win – this will be your last chance to confront the insane asylum circus the Right has become. I wish I could have faith that you could fix it but I realize the base is as insane as Trump is delusional.

          • Defend America September 10, 2016 at 1:15 pm

            Did all liberals go to school to learn how to change the subject and twist everything? Such as the 49 LGBT killings in Orlando by a shooter who called 911 and pledged ISIS Allegiance then Obama and Lynch twisted the shooters motive staying it was a hate crime.

            Obama lied about healthcare…it is now falling apart and the truth coming to lite.
            He lied about his deal with Iran …the truth is now coming out. Bill lied under oath and was impeached. Hillary lied to Congress and America you liberals are still in denial because Comey disgracefully declined to prosecute her…she has possibly even put our country in danger. She lied about being under sniper fire. She lied about Benghazi to America and to the victims families and was responsible for the death of 4 Americans because she refused to send extra security when asked for help. She is taking donations in exchange for favors from foreign countries and the elites. These favors are not in the best interest for the American people but for the wealthy. She and Obama supports the attacks on our law enforcement…she is against Veterans. She has helped to turn our country into a lawless country and you people want to defend her by accusing Republicans. I have already stated that we have woke up to the Republican elites and we are in the process of trying to change their wrongs but we can not do it alone we need liberals to wake up and admit the failures of the Democrat party as well and there are plenty in both parties.

            You blame Republicans for Obama not being allowed to get thing done for the lack of Congress not voting on issues…well the first 4 years of Obama’s Presidency the majority of Congress was Democrats so how do you explain that? By the way it was a good thing Obama was unable to do any more damage than what he has done. I have never seen a country more decided than it is today.

            Everyone wants to blame Bush for the recession back in 2008 because of the housing bubble but remember it was Clinton who signed into law the ability for more people….people who were not qualified to own a home to be able to buy a home. I was not happy with the last 4 years of the Bush Presidency either but stop rewriting history and tell the truth…the 2008 collapse was in part to the Democrats policies and the Republican policies. Hillary also has mislead people into believing that she is responsible for the children’s healthcare that is false…she did work on the program but she did not bring it about. Look it up.

          • MorinMoss September 10, 2016 at 4:13 pm

            Maybe “liberals” have to go to school to learn that but conservative rightwingnuts are BORN with the ability. Kudos.

          • Defend America September 10, 2016 at 6:09 pm

            You just made my point. You are idiots. I ask for answers and you blame republicans because you can not justify anything you do. Go crawl back in your corner and drink some more Kool-Aid. Kudos.

          • MorinMoss September 10, 2016 at 11:31 pm

            Twit, I have a life and unless you’re paying for my time, you’ll get answers when I’m good and ready to give them to you.
            Or you can seek them out on your own but we both know you don’t have enough working neurons to do that.

          • Defend America September 11, 2016 at 1:16 am

            Go suck on your egg you hypocritical ass. You can not respond to my post because you have no idea what you are talking about are why you are supporting loser Hillary. You are just upset because someone called you on your ignorance. Good bye I do have better things to do than play your stupid game.

          • shamu9 September 12, 2016 at 1:41 pm

            Hey MoronMoss “Eat a Bug”!

          • shamu9 September 12, 2016 at 1:34 pm

            Yeah, Dems are SOooo brilliant! Every Convict I ever Supervised was a Democrat, and I was a Correction Officer for 17+ years! Such Wonderful Folks!

          • irish1919 September 10, 2016 at 5:04 am

            One question to ponder. Who am I to take another life? You know there is a commandment which says I shall not kill. It doesn’t say I shall not murder. There is a reason for that.Murder is done out of self defense i.e in war . War does take lives. However when one takes an indefensible life i.e in total disregard and malice than we have a grave sin. So shall not kill would apply to abortion and I wouldn’t want to be the one asked the question . What happened to the baby you were carrying?

          • Defend America September 12, 2016 at 1:49 am

            I believe you misunderstand my post. I was responding to a post whee Morin said Republicans only object to abortions if the child will grow up and vote Republican otherwise we could care less about the unborn child. I am against abortions.

          • irish1919 September 12, 2016 at 3:37 am

            Sorry. It was for another

          • Defend America September 12, 2016 at 3:43 am

            I have done the same thing. Thinking I was responding to someone and hit the wrong reply. Have a great evening.

        • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 3:33 am Reply

          I disagree. On the whole -and one should bot generalize – Republicans are more concerned with making sure that unwanted babies are born than with taking care of them later.

          • grampi September 8, 2016 at 2:53 pm

            “Liz” your reply makes me believe that you would not accept responsibility for an unwanted birth. You reject a live birth (a child) and you would not care for it. You would rather have a doctor kill the infant rather than you having to thow IT in the garbage can when you get home.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 1:07 am

            Your logic is a bit fuzzy, but never mind. My responsibility is -and was- to see that there are no unwanted children. That is best done through considerable education about sex and contraception and, as a last resort, terminating the pregnancy before IT can ruin the lives of the mother and those around her.

            Let me tell you a little story. I know a strongly Catholic woman here in town whose daughter went off to college and came home a short time later, pregnant. Abortion was out of the question, even though she completely rejected both daughter and grandchild because they were going to hell for the sin of fornication. This woman went into a complete decline, her marriage broke up and the husband took to drink. I have no idea what happened to the daughter. How was that good for anyone? Least of all the unfortunate child.

          • irish1919 September 10, 2016 at 4:52 am

            Shit happens sometimes. Is it unfortunate yes but did their lives have to be ruined? Was it because they had thus child? I doubt it. They may have divorced and taken to drink without that child. Maybe their strong catholic family was a burden to them or just maybe they had no spiritual compass of their own. Are you citing one case to affirm abortion? I could probably find 10 cases to your one where a woman who aborted found a terrible guilt which she couldn’t cope with. The child who is aborted may not be the only victim but in terms of living the child is surely the victim.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 10, 2016 at 5:22 am

            What I quoted is just one family. And, yes, their lives were ruined because of the child. Or rather because of the grandmother’s reaction to the child.

            Yes, I cited this family to support abortion. It is not, however, the only one that I could cite. And I rather think that for everyone of the guilt-ridden women you mention I could find ten who are immensely thankful that they did not have to bear a child they did not want.

          • irish1919 September 11, 2016 at 1:10 pm

            I’m sorry but the left today believes that throwing away a baby is perhaps no different than tossing a stuffed animal which a child no longer wants or needs. Sorry. Pro-choice is not acceptable in a civilized society. It is an excuse. It in most cases is not accepting responsibility for ones actions and in any universe cannot be explained away as either moral or decent human behavior. Gods most precious gift is life. To deny that life is abominable. Again the left is on the wrong side.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 11, 2016 at 2:21 pm

            “Pro-choice is not acceptable in a civilized society”

            It seems to me that family planning (including terminating pregnancies as a last resort) is the very essence of a civilized society.

            And this is not a left-right issue. It is a church issue. As long as you continue to believe that every conception is a gift from God, you will, of course be pro-life under all circumstances.

            Leaving aside the logistics of how god delivers all these gifts, wouldn’t you think that the Almighty would be a little more efficient? I have a very hard time accepting that a child born with missing limbs, or half a brain, or sightless eyes is considered a gift.

          • irish1919 September 10, 2016 at 4:42 am

            If you take responsibility maybe one wouldn’t get pregnant. You seem to be quite obtuse about this whole idea of abortion. Life is precious and to make a statement that somehow that reoublicans want pro life with no concern of the baby is irrational. Now we somehow make the victim out to be bad .Abirtion has become an easy way out fir way too many people .
            Male and female alike .I want to be on the right side and that is pro choice. In the animal world some females eat their young. We humans kill ours. Such a tragedy.

          • irish1919 September 10, 2016 at 4:44 am

            Actually a typo. Right side being pro life of course.

        • rocky63 September 8, 2016 at 11:33 pm Reply

          What hateful ignorance you display. Those of us who think abortion is wrong think it is wrong no matter who the baby would grow up to be or what party she/he would be part of.

          One of the more stupid comments I’ve ever heard. You think that when I write a check to a pro-life organization I have some idea what party the babies we hope to save will eventually join? That’s ignorance on top of stupidity.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 1:10 am

            No, Rocky. MorinMoss makes a good point. A while back I came across this:

            In one simple quote, Sister Joan Chittister, O.S.B. sums up the hypocrisy in the ‘pro-life’ movement:

            “I do not believe that just because you’re opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don’t? Because you don’t want any tax money to go there. That’s not pro-life. That’s pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is.”

          • maxx September 9, 2016 at 2:22 am

            Hey dumbsh*t, pro-life means “birth to the grave” in my book and all the people I know that are pro-life. I can’t imagine anyone separating the birth from everything that happens afterword except you and this perverted num who sounds like a real piece of liberal work or something.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 2:30 am

            I don’t know what a ‘perverted num’ is, but we’ll let that pass.

            What is so great about life?

          • irish1919 September 11, 2016 at 1:31 pm

            That’s the left . Always trying to legitimize themselves. There is nothing legitimate about abortion. You can try to legitimize it but it is a violation of a commandment . Thou shall not kill. No greater sin than taking a life which cannot defend themselves. Margaret Harriet Sanger also had this twisted logic She is one of your idols . Planned parenthood was never started because of women’s health Look it up. Margaret wanted to abort the black population because she said they were an inferior race. Jesus said differently . I am on the right side . Not you or some other human who you quote.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 11, 2016 at 5:15 pm

            How many anti-war protests have you been to recently?

            I have looked up Margaret Sanger’s background. If you think she is one of my idols, you must have seen the lengthy post that corrected some of the misconceptions about Sanger and her work.

            “And, frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn” about what Jesus may or may not have said.

          • irish1919 September 12, 2016 at 3:33 am

            I know. I can see that in your posts.

          • MorinMoss September 10, 2016 at 5:27 am

            “What hateful ignorance you display. Those of us who think abortion is wrong think it is wrong no matter who the baby would grow up to be or what party she/he would be part of

            One of the more stupid comments I’ve ever heard. You think that when I write a check to a pro-life organization I have some idea what party the babies we hope to save will eventually join? That’s ignorance on top of stupidity”
            Your reading comprehension is so abysmal I have no idea where to start to correct you or if it’s even possible. Perhaps I might find a suitable Dick-and-Jane example if I had the time to waste.

          • irish1919 September 11, 2016 at 1:23 pm

            The left will always turn an issue into a political issue. They just don’t get it. The fact that those who do not support abortion and our forced to pay for it is completely political. The fact that they want millions of illegals to be granted amnesty is totally political. Millions more votes for their party. The left always looks at the political implications of anything they do. They are the party of no. They say no to life No to liberty and no to happiness and prosperity . They say no to freedom of speech, no to guns no to educational choice. They are a hateful and dangerous bunch. Let’s not forget they were the party of Slavery, the KKK and now BLM a black hate group. Again on the wrong side of history.

    • ceevee September 8, 2016 at 1:02 pm Reply

      I’m sure they won’t be missed!

    • April Torres September 8, 2016 at 5:55 pm Reply

      I agree 100%. If you choose to have an abortion use your own money. If you do not want a child then you need to use protection. If your birth control fails then you have the morning after pill (plan B) which you do NOT need a prescription for. Pregnancy isn’t something that just happens to you. You need to take responsibility for your actions and aborting a baby is NOT the answer.

      • Texascat September 8, 2016 at 10:33 pm Reply

        Morning after pill is an abortive.

        • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 1:24 am Reply

          If you say so. Actually, in many cases it is not. Not all intercourse results in pregnancy. So in many, if not most, cases the morning after pill is no more than an insurance policy. But, hey, every sperm is sacred, as Monty Python likes to sing.

        • irish1919 September 10, 2016 at 4:30 am Reply

          Absolutely. However it is convenient and thought of as nothing more than taking an aspirin .

          • Texascat September 10, 2016 at 4:03 pm

            Taking a cyanide pill can be thought of the same way.

      • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 1:20 am Reply

        While I agree completely that it is far better NOT to get pregnant in the first place, I have to question your assertion that plan B is readily available everywhere. I really mean readily accessible.

        My perhaps over-active imagination can think of quite a few scenarios where it is just not possible to get to a pharmacy in time for the pill to be effective. Think two families with teenage kids camping in the wilderness.

        As elsewhere, I see a noticeable lack of holding the father accountable.

        • maxx September 9, 2016 at 2:08 am Reply

          Read up on the Chinese practice of self abortion used until recently when the Chinese government removed the ban on more than one child. As soon as a Chinese woman found out the child was a female they would abort it until now there is a huge shortage of women of marriageable ages. Perfect example of the law of unintended consequences. Maybe China should start to import female muslim refugees. It seems muslim men prefer goates, little boys and other muslim men.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 2:17 am

            You are quite right about the law of unintended consequences. i understand that there is a similar problem in India where girl children are not much appreciated.

            Self-abortion is a horrible idea, but understandable under the circumstances. You seem to have overlooked the fact that before Roe v Wade, many American women resorted to coat hangers and back-street abortions. Or expensive trips to foreign countries.

          • maxx September 10, 2016 at 6:28 pm

            I remember hearing about the “coat hanger” and “back-street” things but historically, long before Roe v Wade abortions were being done since before the Europeans invaded the Western Hemisphere. The Aleutian Indians, mainland Eskimo Indians, Plains and woodland Indians all performed abortions without “coat hangers”. Study about Native American Tribal herbs used by shamans or medicine men and there are many herb infusions that were used. One of the most common was mistletoe which even Veterinarians used on animals when it was necessary. But then abortions were not done for “convenience reasons” like the liberals have turned it into. Or Planned Parenthood so they could become a body part selling business.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 10, 2016 at 8:04 pm

            Abortions of one sort or another are as old as mankind. Thanks for the very interesting information about the Native American methods.

            But I’m a little puzzled about why they would have been done – if not for convenience. Or rather inconvenience. And, no, Planned parenthood is not, and never has been a “body part selling business”.

          • irish1919 September 10, 2016 at 4:29 am

            So true. Females were expendable and in most all cases the only ones one could adopt. I had a co worker who adopted from China.

        • April Torres September 9, 2016 at 8:45 pm Reply

          Well, if your camping the boys and girls should bring rubbers. They almost never listen I know my daughter doesn’t, The dr. Told me the plan B takes anytime within (I was sexually assaulted so I know about the morning after pill the first 24-36 hours. You can take it within 24-36 after sex. will be effective I do believe woman and the baby father has the choice to abort or not abort. It’s their choice. Even though I DONT AGREE WITH IT! and I don’t want to pay for it either. It’s your choice to have sex with another person but you need protect yourself from ALL the risks of pregnancy /STD/ etc. the father should be held accountable.
          Nice speaking with

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 10, 2016 at 3:40 am

            Nice speaking with you too.

            To pursue this idea of kids having sex while on a camping trip a little further, it is not going to be a problem if the parents are actively involved with their kids’ sex education.

            But many parents are not. Either they take the easy way and do/say nothing, or they promote the idea that abstinence is the best way to prevent pregnancy. It is, of course, but it is also very much against human nature.

          • irish1919 September 10, 2016 at 4:27 am

            Let’s face up to responsibility. Everyone has a choice . One cannot get pregnant by osmosis . So there is a choice by both parties to have sec. Voila a Baby! Go figure. Wait I loved the sex but didn’t really want this baby. Well heck I don’t want it either, oh yeah I got it. Let’s go to planned parenthood and have it removed . You know like a tooth or a mole or any other unwanted things. After all it’s not really alive. We definitely cannot be responsible in any way for this, well this thing I have wrong with me. All goes back to being responsible for our actions. Married or not it takes 2 to make a choice. Now there is a question of rape. Obviously that is quite an emotional roller coaster. If there was an abortion I might believe in that could be the only exception . i do not know of too many parents (even if they are pro-life) who would not respect the wishes of their daughter . Let’s face it though . Reality is that abortion has become a convenience for most. Responsibility very rarely is first and foremost in most all abortions. Getting an abortion is no different than getting a tooth or cyst or mole removed. Society and how we see human life has got to change .

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 10, 2016 at 4:36 am

            While I appreciate and even share your views on responsibility and the fact that it takes two to create a baby, I do not agree with some of your other positions, especially that abortion has become a convenience. It is not a convenience. It is horrible. But the alternative is worse.

          • April Torres September 10, 2016 at 8:23 pm

            I do Agee that it starts with the parents because we all have those pesky hormones and that it human instinct. My own daughter is 9 and I’m trying to tell her about her self and all she does is run away from me and screams “no I don’t want to know, yuk.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 10, 2016 at 8:29 pm

            Right! Being a parent is not easy even when the child was conceived in love and very much wanted.

          • April Torres September 10, 2016 at 9:44 pm

            always thought of myself as not PRO-Choice nor PRO life. I have thoughts on both sides. I don;t agree with abortions but it the womn’s choice and I think the person getting one should have to pay for it with their money (exception’s of rape and incest) on their own and not use taxpayers money. Rubbers are cheaper unless it was rape or incest. I had a ex friend that had 4 abortions we are not friends since I found out there was no effort to protect herself. She used it as a form of birth control and that’s WRONG??
            at the time i was on the birth control pill for 3 years and mixed it with antibiotic which decreases the effectiveness of the birth control pill. I got pregnant and had no money saved I also have no family (my parents are both dead along with my 1 sibling – a younger brother, and my grandparents-no one else left but 1 aunt that is out of state). i cried for days because I was never planning for this (actually i never wanted to bring a kid into the world today) I told my husband and i thought he going to pass out but we dealt with it the best we could. Today she is a beautiful 9 year old who is as salty as me and as stubborn as her dad. I cry at the thought that i almost never had her. SHE IS MY WORLD. You need to think it through before having sex and always use protection. Have fun out there but be safe!!!!

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 10, 2016 at 11:13 pm

            Your story is a testament to the power of the maternal instinct. I’m sure that many unwanted children are in fact loved. But not all of them.

            Your ex-friend who had four abortions is the perfect example of why they should be available at minimal cost. What sort of mother would she have been?

            I am so happy that things have worked out well for you, your husband and your daughter.

            But, without raining on your parade, if she had never been, you would have been OK, wouldn’t you?

          • April Torres September 11, 2016 at 2:49 am

            I don’t know. I was defiantly being stupid things a lot of them was using drugs. When I discovered I was pregnant I went to rehab for 10 days and haven’t been using since. I’ve had a really hard life. I’m very glad to be here now. I love my daughter, and hasbabd.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 11, 2016 at 3:05 am

            The power of love is huge. And things have worked out well for you because of your love for your daughter – and your husband.

            Neither of my daughters is able to have children. But they have wonderful husbands and three Labradors between them. Those dogs are just lovely and have brought great joy into our lives.

            Please understand that I am not comparing a human child to a dog, but I am saying that love given and received is very powerful.

        • Wayne "Grandpaw" Watrous September 10, 2016 at 9:09 pm Reply

          Why hold the father responsible and not the mother? Keep the legs crossed! Yes, the father should be held accountable but I, at my age, have had plenty of women try to have sex with me KNOWING that I am married. It is the woman’s fault too. Can’t tell m,e that they need education, the women get better talks than the men do. They should not get money for having a bunch of kids and food stamps and all. Do not reward bad behavior!

      • maxx September 9, 2016 at 2:02 am Reply

        Women that have had multiple abortions are not accidents. They are getting something out of it. Perhaps rewards from P.P. for the body parts.

        • irish1919 September 10, 2016 at 4:34 am Reply

          We already know that to be true. Do they get prosecuted? No only the film maker gets prosecuted. It is totally disgusted and at what point dies it stop? At what point do we the tax payer stop paying for it? Planned Parenthood is not about women’s health. That argument is B.S.

          • maxx September 10, 2016 at 6:43 pm

            The group that recorded the interviews with P.P. staff have definitely proven that P.P. agenda was really never about women’s health. When I was a young man a young woman that lived next door to me became pregnant. I used to chit chat with her occasionally. When she became pregnant her boyfriend wanted her to get an abortion and dumped her because she would not. She had very little money and said she didn’t believe in abortion but would not be able to support another child. Luckily I had a married male friend who was trying very hard to have a child but was losing hope. I hooked him up with the pregnant neighbor and he and his wife adopted her little girl baby so both side were happy. Then about a year or two later the male friend and his wife got pregnant and had their very own little boy. God works in strange ways, huh?

          • irish1919 September 11, 2016 at 2:45 pm

            He does and I want to be on His side, not Margaret Sangers side.

    • maxx September 9, 2016 at 2:00 am Reply

      Abortions should be required to be followed by sterilizations. If you don’t want the child you won’t need the organs used to create them. Wait until some woman comes forward to tell how she was paid by Planned Parenthood for every abortion she had. Don’t doubt me. That is happening so P.P. can harvest and sell the parts to the highest bidders.

  6. Buzz Waldron September 7, 2016 at 8:22 pm Reply

    Pro-Choice is FREEDOM… to chose either way… Religions = mental slavery… ALL RELIGIONS = ADDICTION to being lied to, an ENFORCED PSYCHOSIS, and WRITTEN ORDERS to MURDER EVERYONE on the planet! .. i.e. Armageddon, Left Behind movies, Story of Noah’s Ark…

    Normal Person = NO addictions and NO mental illnesses

    Religic/Theist = person with religion addiction, religion psychosis, and orders to murder everyone

    Atheist = Person with NO religion addiction/religion psychosis/religious murderous desires, but may have other addictions and other mental illnesses

    All religions require their customers to blindly psychotically believe imaginary supernatural being(s) are REAL…

    ADDICTIONS are the biggest threat to the USA, UK, Canada, Australia, Russia, China and all the world !!!

    ++++ The Six Big ADDICTIONS to AVOID like the PLAGUE !!! ++++

    1. DRUG ADDICTION including alcohol addiction/alcoholics and nicotine addiction/smokers

    2. RELIGION ADDICTION/PSYCHOSIS religics, theists, religious terrorists, clergy

    3. HOMOSEXUALITY ADDICTION (most homosexics admit they have an addiction)

    4. OBESITY ADDICTION fat

    5. COUCH POTATO/SLOTH ADDICTION

    6. GREED ADDICTION (EvilBushJr. – Kill for profits)

    • Rosech Levy September 7, 2016 at 8:35 pm Reply

      The one reason I chose to be Catholic was that we can reason, show our anger, and think for ourselves. However, the Catholic Church has a non-pope, bishops have taken money from Obama to bring in invaders on our soil (whether latinos or from the Mid-East) and take care of them. Right now we real Catholics are revolting. The Catholic Church has had its ups and down because we are all human, but it is still here after 2000 years will be again. So if you feel you were mentally controlled, then I feel sorry for you, but I am too independent to be owned mentally or physically!

      • Buzz Waldron September 8, 2016 at 6:52 am Reply

        Catholic Church requires its customers to believe imaginary God, imaginary Jesus, and other imaginary critters are real… they’re not… After 2,000 years, the Church still isn’t a democracy, you still can’t vote for a pope, you get whatever crap the fascists want to have rule over you… In fact, all religions despise democracy, want to bring back kings… I’m a Normal Person who has never had any addictions or mental illnesses including no religion addiction… and never want any…

  7. David Renaud September 7, 2016 at 8:42 pm Reply

    Pro-Abortion is a death blow to Americans…… There are a few good reasons for abortions…… It should be an original call by the parents ( man and woman, together). Anything else is homicide…… No run-away-to abortion shops……. NO public tax funding. Should be administered by healthcare…………

    • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 3:25 pm Reply

      I notice ypu are male therefore can’t get pregnant. It seem you have a need to tell women what to do. Tell you what, fuck off

  8. doug September 7, 2016 at 8:53 pm Reply

    This is why most democrats are followers, they are told what to do

    • ceevee September 8, 2016 at 1:01 pm Reply

      By who dummy?

      • doug September 8, 2016 at 2:58 pm Reply

        Hey sheep, by all the liberal news outlets, the liberal unions, every single democratic politician, research things yourself, don’t believe everything the democrats tell you, study if your capable of learning!

        • maxx September 9, 2016 at 1:55 am Reply

          It’s best not to believe ANYTHING democrats tell you. They don’t know or spew anything but fiction and lies. Their skulls are full of male bovine excrement. Even psychiatrists have labeled them as suffering from several different “mental illnesses”. Lobotomies will be the only effective solution to their problems.

        • Eric Hartman September 9, 2016 at 9:00 pm Reply

          So.. you morons are blindly following tRump yet to speak like this? What is wrong with this picture?

    • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 2:48 pm Reply

      Right because we allow peoea choice rather than TAKING an option away

  9. greenlantern1 September 7, 2016 at 8:55 pm Reply

    Both lesbians and homosexuals are supposed to be barren.
    Why would they want abortions in the first place?

  10. Tyronne Shoelaces September 7, 2016 at 9:12 pm Reply

    As long as there are the devil’s minions like the communist democrats, there will always be evil in the world.

    • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 3:24 pm Reply

      Prove god exists fuck face

      • Tyronne Shoelaces September 8, 2016 at 5:08 pm Reply

        You’re living proof God exist, cock sucker. Why don’t you troll salon.com. You’ll be with like minded libtards and communist democrats.

        • quickenator September 11, 2016 at 1:18 am Reply

          WSow just another crappy religitard post that fails to use logic. Holy shit you bible thumpers are fucking moron. If ypou arfe democrat you aree not communist you fucking retard. Take your dady’s dick out of your mouth and get a fucking education ass muffin.

          • Tyronne Shoelaces September 11, 2016 at 8:14 pm

            Speaking of a fucking education, you have about a 1/2 dozen incorrectly spelled words in your retort. Now get your dick out of your mother’s ass and get an education.

  11. Pam Dunn September 7, 2016 at 9:32 pm Reply

    Boy !! The liberal morons and brainless twits with turds for brains are out spewing their liberal idiocy on this site today. Maybe Hillary has taken the day off and they can’t line up to sniff her farts.

    • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 3:22 am Reply

      Hello Pam. Still fixated on farts I see.

      What was your point?

  12. cantonst September 7, 2016 at 10:30 pm Reply

    Do you know a woman who has had an abortion or multiple abortions voluntarily? Did you opinion of this woman change? Think about it…

  13. edddoerr September 7, 2016 at 10:38 pm Reply

    The article above is one of the stupidist and most irresponsible I have even read. Neither the Bible nor science agrees with the notion of the personhood of embryos or pre-28 week fetuses. A woman’s right to end a pregnancy is part of her essential rights of conscience and religious liberty. The Dems are right; the Repubs are wrong and simply want to impose their non-consensus religious views on all women.

    • Daniel Hoffman September 7, 2016 at 11:08 pm Reply

      What rights does the fetus have ? You folks think its right to kill the unborn because it is inconvenient. Don’t worry though you will get what you deserve eventually.

      • Carol Burkhardt September 8, 2016 at 2:01 am Reply

        You think a baby is an “inconvenience”???? An inconvenience?????Obviously you have never given birth to a baby. And obviously you have never spent YEARS taking care of a baby 24/7 because you don’t have your mother or another trusted relative nearby. Millions of college educated good women must live this life. And trust me, “inconvenience” has nothing to do with dedicated motherhood. No, it’s work…hard work…extremely hard work 24/7 for years.

        • cal3301 September 8, 2016 at 2:32 am Reply

          Get off your soapbox, as he was referring to those who abort thinking a baby would mess up their life. FYI, I have given birth.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 2:44 am

            I think that Carol’s point (and certainly mine) is that it is grossly unfair to claim that women have abortions because they think that it is ‘inconvenient’ to have a child at that time. Having a child – as you no doubt know – is far more than an inconvenience: it is a life-changing experience, and not one that a woman is always ready to face.

            Your wording is interesting. The mothers I know would say “I have a child” rather than “I have given birth”. I may be totally wrong here, but it makes me think that you are not particularly happy about having given birth.

          • April Torres September 8, 2016 at 6:04 pm

            If your not ready to have a baby then don’t have (unprotected) sex. There are enough ways to prevent pregnancy these days. if you do have an abortion then pay for it out of YOUR pocket not MINE because it’s your responsibility.

          • maxx September 9, 2016 at 3:00 am

            If a woman isn’t ready to have and take care of a child then they have many choices. Keep your panties on or simply learn how to use contraception. It is far from rocket science to prevent pregnancy since there are many ways. Abortion is not a form of contraception it is killing a pre-born human being.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 3:06 am

            And where do men fit into this picture? Are you prepared to wait for marriage? Do you have a supply of condoms on hand at all times in case you get lucky? Do you immediately step up to support the child you created? Or support the woman you impregnated in whatever her decision is regarding motherhood?

      • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 2:19 am Reply

        Come back and talk to us when you are pregnant.

      • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 2:50 pm Reply

        When it is born and its own being then it gets its rights

    • Fritz Louderback September 7, 2016 at 11:10 pm Reply

      Leaving politics out of your comment, I would like to comment. I can understand your feelings about ” the notion of the personhood of embryos or pre-28 week fetuses”. However, are you aware that 2013 statistics of pre-birth abortions, these are abortions where the doctor crushes the baby’s head at conception, are on the rise? Is a baby with its head exposed to the World a non-personhood?

      • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 2:57 pm Reply

        Nice bit of lying asshole? Try some sites that aren’t anti-abortion.

        • Fritz Louderback September 9, 2016 at 5:51 am Reply

          “Asshole” ? You sound like an x-wife {:-). My sources include but are not limited to:

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    • Daze Inde September 7, 2016 at 11:41 pm Reply

      Wrong! Best article, and so true. Just sticks in your craw, doesn’t it?

      • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 2:55 pm Reply

        How is it true. If it is true that means you have evidence for god?

      • Texascat September 8, 2016 at 10:58 pm Reply

        edddoerr must thank his mother for giving him life.

    • Billie Sue Johnson September 8, 2016 at 1:19 am Reply

      Ask your child if you have any if they wish you had aborted them.

      • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 2:56 pm Reply

        Great bullshit statement

    • Obie Miller September 8, 2016 at 2:24 am Reply

      Eddoerr apparently does not read from the same KJV bible that I do.

      • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 2:26 am Reply

        The King James is the version I am most familiar with. I am unaware that it refers at all to embryos or pre-28 week fetuses. What did I miss?

        • Obie Miller September 8, 2016 at 2:46 am Reply

          Elizabeth, Jeremiah I:5 says—“before you were in the womb, I knew you…”, and my KJV bible does not delineate as to before or after 28 weeks

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 3:13 am

            And all of that means very little to a woman who needs to terminate a pregnancy. But thanks for the information.

          • Obie Miller September 8, 2016 at 3:31 am

            Elizabeth,—not meaning to be blunt— as a Christian, I am more interested in obeying the word of GOD, than what pleases those of which you speak.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 3:35 am

            Obie, — meaning to be absolutely blunt —, as a non-believer, I am more interested in our well-being while on this earth rather than some putative post-death paradise.

          • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 2:52 pm

            Prove god exists religitard

          • maxx September 9, 2016 at 3:09 am

            And I notice that you prefer to use the term “terminate the pregnancy” instead of “kill the fetus” because it makes the act more palatable to you that way.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 3:18 am

            Yes, I do use “terminate the pregnancy’ because it is less emotional, and pretty well describes what happens.

          • Texascat September 8, 2016 at 10:57 pm

            He can’t hear you. His demon has taken over his brain.

        • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 2:51 pm Reply

          It is a bullshit document. Why would you center your life around a book of fiction

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 12:39 am

            Of course it is a bullshit document. All scriptures are. And no, I would not and will not center my life on what was beautifully described as fairy tales from the Bronze Age.

            (That was written, by the way, to express considerable contempt for the late Justice Scalia who told his granddaughter’s graduating high school class that man has been around for 5,000 years or so. The full quote is “Knowing that he takes the text of a book based on 5th hand accounts of
            fairy tales told by goat herders in the Bronze Age more seriously than
            scientists is frankly shocking. Not only is it shocking, but completely
            unacceptable given Scalia’s position in society.” Ben Cohen in The daily Banter)

        • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 2:52 pm Reply

          Sorry mistook your position. My humblest apologies.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 12:55 am

            No worries, mate, as the Aussies so delightfully say. There have been times when I, too, have taken umbrage at some comment only to realize that we are actually on the same page. I often resort to looking at the person’s profile and other remarks to figure out which way the wind is blowing.

      • Texascat September 8, 2016 at 10:55 pm Reply

        I blocked the scum. Abortion is Murder.

        • maxx September 9, 2016 at 3:02 am Reply

          And as we now know a very lucrative business for P.P. and others.

          • Texascat September 9, 2016 at 4:22 pm

            Abortion: The doctor’s way of making a killing.

    • cal3301 September 8, 2016 at 2:28 am Reply

      I think you better educate yourself as a fetus feels pain at less than 16 weeks. Maybe you might understand the development of the fetus with some pictures, because the only reason for Sanger’s PP was genocide of Blacks and the poor…..
      http://www.webmd.com/baby/ss/slideshow-fetal-development

      • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 2:36 am Reply

        I respectfully suggest that you are wrong about Margaret Sanger. The stated goals of the American Birth COntrol League which she founded (and which later became Planned Parenthood) were:

        We hold that children should be

        Conceived in love;

        Born of the mother’s conscious desire;

        And only begotten under conditions which render possible the heritage of health.
        Therefore we hold that every woman must possess the power and freedom to
        prevent conception except when these conditions can be satisfied.

        That’s a far cry from genocide.

        • Defend America September 8, 2016 at 3:18 am Reply

          You say their purpose to give women the freedom to prevent conception then they should prevent conception not abort once they have conceived.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 3:31 am

            Absolutely!

            That is what everyone wants: a world where conception only occurs when it is wanted. However, due to legislation like the Helms Act and the Reagan/Bush gag orders, the US withholds support from any family planning clinics worldwide that even mention abortion. This means that the ability to disseminate information about contraception is severely curtailed. There are so many circumstances where contraception just doesn’t work, and abortion is a last resort.

            One of those circumstances occurs when men refuse to take any responsibility for contraception, or, indeed, actively discourage it.

          • Jp September 8, 2016 at 12:24 pm

            Don’t spread your legs if you don’t want a baby!

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 1:25 pm

            Without going into details, it is possible to conceive with your legs firmly pressed together.

            Nitpicking aside, your remark is one of the most offensive I have come across on this often offensive site. As I have said elsewhere in this thread, it takes two to make a baby, and one of them is a man.

          • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 2:54 pm

            Quit slut shaming cock nugget

          • Defend America September 9, 2016 at 12:13 am

            You misunderstood my post. Once conceived their is no choice other than to have the baby. An other decision is murder plain an simple.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 9, 2016 at 1:31 am

            I sort of think that you misunderstood mine. No one is pro-abortion. But many people (a majority of Americans if I am not mistaken) think that each and every woman should have the choice whether or not to bear a child.

            I don’t understand why every conception has to be carried to term. If you are experiencing a condition that can seriously affect your health or quality of life you take care of it to the best of your ability.

            You will no doubt find it shocking, but I equate an unwanted pregnancy to cancer. Without intervention both will continue to grow and greatly affect your future.

          • Defend America September 9, 2016 at 6:26 pm

            In an earlier post of mine I stated abortions for the pure pleasure of having sex without prevention is murder. I never said I objected to abortions for health reasons. I am sort of 50-50 on rape victims…but most of the abortions are because women and men refuse to use protection then when the woman becomes pregnant she
            ( they ) want to abort some 3 are more times…because they have no consideration of life. Even though I feel life is precious and a gift from God a woman should have a choice when it comes to her health….but not when it comes to their pleasures. Besides the above reasons I also have other objections to these clinics because they are running a business paid for by the taxpayers.

            When we the taxpayers are contributing to the death of unborn babies …then these clinics sell body parts for profit…then they turn around an contribute to Democrats election…do you not see something wrong here?

          • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 2:53 pm

            Right. You just want to tell them how to run their lives.

          • Texascat September 8, 2016 at 10:59 pm

            Life begins at conception. It is a Child, not a Choice.

        • Jp September 8, 2016 at 12:23 pm Reply

          She wanted to kill all the “negro” babies because they were not of good stock.

          • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 1:19 pm

            Says who?

          • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 2:55 pm

            Damn you are a fucking moron with little research skills

          • cal3301 September 8, 2016 at 11:26 pm

            Read up on Sanger, as what Jp stated is true. Here to get you started from the National Black Pro-life Caucus…..

            “Margaret Sanger (1879 – 1966) was the founder of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA) and the International Planned Parenthood Federation (IPPF). As an activist in the birth-control and population-control movements, she was one of the most influential figures of the twentieth century.

            Many questions have been raised concerning her real views on eugenics, race, and human rights, and it is hard to separate the facts from fiction. The information presented here is drawn directly from her writings, with references.

            Sanger’s obsession with eugenics and racism was clearly presented in her involvement of planning the First World Population Conference which took place in Geneva in 1926. She was not mentioned on the actual program, but instead worked behind the scenes and initiated the “Negro Project” in 1939.

            The objective of the “project” was to infiltrate the black community by presenting birth control as a health option for women to kill off the black race.Kill them off by limiting the growth of the population by abortion and sterilization.

            They knew that some blacks would figure out their sinister plot so it was decided by Sanger to take the plan to the clergy and charismatic members the black community to have them deliver the death message to their congregations.

            In a letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble Sanger stated, “We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. And the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”

            Notice that Sanger said the ministers should be “hired.” There are many black ministers today who support abortion–most of them still receive money from Planned Parenthood. Many have sold their souls for “30 pieces of silver.”

          • quickenator September 11, 2016 at 1:24 am

            Damn you fuck face live to lie.

          • Reason0verhate September 12, 2016 at 10:03 pm

            I heard when you expose your little thingy to 4-year-old boys, they laugh real loud.

    • Defend America September 8, 2016 at 3:08 am Reply

      Perhaps you need to check with your heart and soul then decide if life has a value are not. Would you allow your Wife are child to die just to keep your freedom?That is the main reason for all the abortions….not a health issue area rape victim but the freedom to have sex over and over again without consequences. That is Murder.

      • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 2:58 pm Reply

        Bullshit cock stain. Just can’t stand the fact others have sex that you need to punish them. Hey fuck face stay the hell out of my bedroom

        • Defend America September 8, 2016 at 4:45 pm Reply

          Hey you piece of crap stay out of taxpayers pockets. Do not care what you do in your bedroom but you need to grow up and assume responsibility for your actions. I can tell by all your post you are one of the freeloading liberals that is draining this country into bankruptcy. Do not bother to reply back as I am flagging you and your filthy mouth.

          • quickenator September 11, 2016 at 1:15 am

            Hey fucktard sure I am freeloading in the Army assface. Man up fuck stain all you want to do is punish other for having sex. Peolple getting an abortion is taking responsiblilthy ass gnome. Perhaps you need to grow up cunt stain.

        • April Torres September 8, 2016 at 6:09 pm Reply

          use protection and they won’t get pregnant!

        • localhistorywriter September 11, 2016 at 4:18 pm Reply

          C unt

      • April Torres September 8, 2016 at 6:08 pm Reply

        Defend America, your absolutely right!!!

    • Texascat September 8, 2016 at 10:44 pm Reply

      Thank your

      r mother for giving you life.

    • Texascat September 8, 2016 at 10:53 pm Reply

      Goodbye evil person. Blocked!

    • maxx September 9, 2016 at 2:55 am Reply

      And I can say the very same about your post. The embryo or fetus as you like to refer to it is a human being. No matter what you call it It will not come out as a frog or chicken or cat or dog if allowed to continue to live in it’s mother. There is no doubt to “science” that it is a human being. But then liberals don’t want to be confused with scientific facts.

  14. Daze Inde September 7, 2016 at 11:44 pm Reply

    Thank you for this article. It is the best ever. It is so true. The evil agenda of the demoncrats is babykilling, murder, censorship of free speech, stifling of religion, criminalizing the faithful, and the end of freedom, all disguised neatly in a package, like the serpent’s tongue to Adam and Eve, whose promise “you shall be like gods,” was deception and their gullibility spelled death for them.

  15. Billie Sue Johnson September 8, 2016 at 12:00 am Reply

    Most people don’t know how partial birth abortions or late term abortions are performed. The baby whose head is in the birth channel is turned to come feet first. They bring the baby out of the birth canal all the way but stop at the mouth and nose. Then they drill a hole in the base of the skull and suction the babies brain out. Then they collapse the scull and then pull the dead baby out. Viable babies are killed this way. This is an unbelievable thing to do to a child.

  16. firereader September 8, 2016 at 1:05 am Reply

    When conception takes place, and you have a heart beat, the spark of life has happened. To abort the life is murder. You can call it something, an embryo, a thing, a fetus, it is still a life. Who is protecting the life of the unborn? So for all you people who believe it is a woman’s right to make that decision, you are wrong. At conception the woman looses her right, just as a criminal looses his or her rights when they rape, murder, kidnap and any other crime, but they retain their rights until they are judged and found guilty. You people need to get your head out of the sand, infanticide, or abortion is murder, I can only hope and pray for the souls of the unborn and the woman and doctors who take the life of someone who is not able to defend their selves, a baby is defenseless. I pray that you people will, one day understand and find the truth. The democratic party has in a concerted effort achieved all their goals. Infanticide, destruction of the family as a unit, destroyed generations of black families, and work extremely hard at limiting black births,(genocide of the blacks, a holocaust) and continued the work fundamentally change history to reflect that they are protecting the blacks, when history will prove that they have enslaved generations of blacks. to a life of being on government welfare. Continue to not educate, and guide in a christian based life. Black history and lives have been destroyed and will continue to be controlled by the democrats until they have had enough. I pray that someone, maybe Donald Trump will find it possible for the black family to matter, for black lives to truly matter. Jobs, education, and a coming back to our roots of being govern by God first principals that this nation was founded on. If we continue down the path of standing for nothing, being politically correct, that’s what we will be, nothing.

    • Joe Pewter September 8, 2016 at 6:26 am Reply

      lotta good aspects/reality..praying concept aint gonna make change..principles followed by the good humans determination creates change…”GOD” is absent..we gotta do it ourselves

  17. Billie Sue Johnson September 8, 2016 at 1:22 am Reply

    Thou shalt not kill.

    • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 3:28 pm Reply

      Prove god exists religitard

      • maxx September 9, 2016 at 2:24 am Reply

        Prove that God doesn’t exist.

        • quickenator September 11, 2016 at 1:26 am Reply

          Of course you would say thayt ass bandit. You can’t prove a negative , but considering that you are a religitard I didn’t expect your intelligence to be that high. Now dick staion proveit or you are a liar

          • shamu9 September 12, 2016 at 1:56 pm

            Eat a Bug Quickie Girl! One ‘o the Big Juicy Roaches that hide behind yo’ fridge! Yer Gettin’ “Testy” Blood Sugar Low??

          • Quickness September 26, 2016 at 9:56 pm

            Fucktard another backwoods moron. Go fuck yourself religitard

          • shamu9 September 27, 2016 at 7:19 pm

            Actually, I have several framed documents, from prestigious Centers of Learning that Refute your B/S Statement!

          • shamu9 September 28, 2016 at 5:47 pm

            Bite THIS BYOTCH!

          • shamu9 September 28, 2016 at 7:46 pm

            You’d a Killed for a Real Snappy Comeback to that Eat a Bug post, But your feeble mind is not up to the Task!

          • quickenator September 28, 2016 at 10:44 pm

            Really you backwoods hillbilly banjo strumming moon-shone swilling sister fucking donkey stupid hillbilly who has his head so far up his ass that when you sneeze you spit baccy juice. You are right I am looking for a snappy come back you donkey stupid no walking and breathing because you have one working neuron because you momma and daddy are brother and sister trailer park piece of shit. I am at a loss.

          • shamu9 October 1, 2016 at 2:05 pm

            Sure are, We did better than that in High School Study Hall! Send your Parents over, I know a Clergyman who can Marry Them!

          • shamu9 October 1, 2016 at 4:44 pm

            You’ve been at a Loss since Birth.

      • shamu9 September 12, 2016 at 1:53 pm Reply

        Prove You Exist Quickie, You Figment O’ Imagination!

        • quickenator September 28, 2016 at 10:45 pm Reply

          Ooooohhh the hillbilly is still in the third grade. Typical moron religitard. Ps a kindergarten graduation certificate doesn’t count.

  18. mjmaf September 8, 2016 at 2:07 am Reply

    How the Future of America – is Murdered. Too bad we can’t do a pre-scan for the baby killers and let THEM – not be Born! But that would start the slippery slope. Most of the aborted are from Liberal ilk and they are killing off THEIR offspring – hmmm… Maybe that’s also why Obama/Hillary, are importing all those illegal ‘voters’ as their lawless ranks are thinning from this murder spree! But it appears as in the past 8 years that more abortion chambers of death have been closed than at any other time in history. Maybe the problem is starting to take care of itself. How many out there would accept a body part, that used to be in the body of a murdered fetus from the ‘wine and lamborghinis’ crowd, who will not want to show the image of the little human to the ‘mother’ before it is snuffed out, as that would change the minds of those forced through hasty procedures without a time out to actually think about what they are about to do – kill a family member! Time to de-fund this act of brutal barbarism – forever! If they could only shoot back….

    • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 2:16 am Reply

      Let me ask you two questions. Are you prepared to contribute your tax dollars to improved sex and contraception education? Are you prepared to contribute your tax dollars to the welfare of unwanted children born to mothers who cannot afford to give them a reasonable chance in life?

      • Jp September 8, 2016 at 12:27 pm Reply

        That’s where the family unit comes in. Quit expecting the govt to do everything!

        • Elizabeth Whitehouse September 8, 2016 at 1:28 pm Reply

          So, no. You are not prepared to contribute to the welfare of unwanted children. Yet you are quite OK with forcing women to give birth to unwanted babies.

        • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 3:27 pm Reply

          Like everyone has a family to support them. Start using your fucking brain

          • Jp September 8, 2016 at 3:32 pm

            You’re just a rude sob. Don’t ever talk to me like that.

          • quickenator September 11, 2016 at 1:12 am

            I will talk to you how I wish cunt slime. Now fuck off ass mufin

          • quickenator October 12, 2016 at 9:04 pm

            I will talk to you however I like cuntlip. How the fuck are you going to stop me you impotent bitch. Man up buttercup you can’t do shit

    • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 3:27 pm Reply

      If they are murdered then get off the fucking internet and call tbe cops coward
      Show us the courage of your convictions shitstain and notify the authorities. Fuck off asshole

  19. kassa1 September 8, 2016 at 4:42 am Reply

    The Democrat/communist who work for the one world elitist who believe in communism for the 99% and freedom for the 1% believe in global population control, so they hide behind women’s rights , To murder the unborn. These are the same so call Democrats that push for doctors to make children into transgender’s, but deprive the Young born with a heart beat The right to live. May God have mercy on their demonically evil souls

    • quickenator September 8, 2016 at 3:26 pm Reply

      Damn you are stupid

      • kassa1 September 8, 2016 at 10:40 pm Reply

        How so? Mr. mouth how so?

        • quickenator September 11, 2016 at 1:23 am Reply

          Democrats are not communist cock nugget. Abortion is not murder. Yet you are the moron who thinks so. So I tell you what get off the fucking internet and call the fucking cops you cowardly piece of shit. Show us the courage of your convictions and notify the authorties. My guess you will deflect you shitty coward. How the fuck can you be so ignorant?

          • kassa1 September 11, 2016 at 3:54 am

            The Democrat party was taken over by the communist back in the 40s and today half the Republicans are on the same wagon however you call them what you want because you’re probably one of the idiots it’s on the door anyway or else you’re one who has a lot of money or else you’re one who is too dumb and stupid to think for yourself

          • Quickness September 26, 2016 at 9:55 pm

            I am guessing you do not understand what communism is because your sytatement is utter bullshit. In think for myself quite well cumsnot. You are one of those fucking idiots that has to have the subject explained to them. Remove your cranium from your rectum.

          • kassa1 September 26, 2016 at 11:06 pm

            No sir I know exactly what kind me this far as I fucked him back in Vietnam days but what I do understand is you like a brain goes if you had a brain you would know what was going on hall communism was and how old active guess the people how this administration has been aggressive toward the people of this country and pampers and babies those of her trying to kill us as he also was out there stealing our money by spending more than all presidents combined because his understudy that being a Lynskey says to destroy the American people , You must overwhelmed her system with that which Obama and the Democrats have done quite well with along with making a stupid statement like we don’t have a spending problem we have a revenue problem what don’t you get about that brain-dead?

          • kassa1 September 11, 2016 at 4:10 am

            Hey numbskull abortion is murder if the baby has a heartbeat it’s alive or what don’t you get about that but then again you Marsalise think you’re God anyway what you’re not and when you leave this planet you will find out when God sends you to the fiery gate. I will pray for you though as there is hope for everybody including you

  20. Robert Early September 8, 2016 at 5:27 am Reply

    The main function of abortion was and is to reduce the black population.. So far, the count is over a million black babies. This has been one of the Dem’s most successful socialist programs. Putting a black man in the White House to continue the slaughter was a stroke of genius.

  21. ceevee September 8, 2016 at 1:18 pm Reply

    How many of those abortions do you think were performed on right-wing women? None? That’s what they would have you believe. None. Without citing a single statistic, do you really think all 50 million women who had those abortions were liberals? Just given the fact that there are more teen pregnancies in Red States, some of which would end in abortion, would give lie to that fact. And I thought conservative teens were sooooo much more chaste, being raised in God-fearing, sexless homes as it were. Silly ole’ me!

  22. Don Wood ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ September 8, 2016 at 1:40 pm Reply

    That’s right. The abortion industry has curtailed our natural human growth rate, but the Muslims’ have put theirs into high gear. All they will have to do is vote Sharia Law in and we’ll be flushed down the proverbial toilet.
    I’m voting Donald J. Trump to put this all right.

  23. Brennan the Great September 8, 2016 at 3:41 pm Reply

    To answer your question: look up “utilitarianism”.

  24. Walter Flatt September 8, 2016 at 4:48 pm Reply

    WRONG INT IS NOT THAT AT ALL, WHY DO YOU THINK HILLIARY AND OBAMA IS BRINGING IN SO MANY MUSLIMS. EVERYONE SHOULD READ THE QURAN. IT TELLS YOU THAT IS OK TO KILL ALL INFIDELS TO FURTHER THEIR CAUSE. GUESS WHAT EVERYONE IS AN INFIDEL EXCEPT MUSLIMS.

    FROM A KOREAN WAR VET 51/53, A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT AND A CHRISTIAN, BUT NOT A ZOMBI, ONE THAT PULLS A STRAIGHT TICKET.

    THE GOVERNMENT PASSED A LAW IN 1952 BARRING ALL MUSLIMS, NONE IS HERE LEGALLY AND THAT INCLUDE OBAMA A PROFESSED MUSLIM.

    I BELIEVE THIS ADMINISTRATION FUNDED BY SOROS, INCLUDING HILLIARY IS OUT TO TURN THIS COUNTRY INTO A MUSLIM COUNTRY.

    IS HILLIARY ON DOPE? GOOGLE THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES 2015, NO AMERICAN, REGARDLESS IF YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN, INDEPENDENT, CHRISTIAN, COP, VETERN, SOLDIER, HOW COULD Y0U POSSIBLE THINK SHE WOULD BE BEST FOR OUR COUNTRY.

    HAS HILLARY AND OBAMA, KERRY, SOROS, AND THE BIASED MEDIA, SET THE USA UP FOR A MUSLIM INVASION? IF NOT, YOU SHOULD READ THE WHYS BELOW AND DECIDE YOURSELF.

    COAT YOUR BULLETS WITH PIG GREASE OR BLOOD AND LET THE WORLD KNOW THAT ANY MUSLIM KILLED WILL BE BURIED WITH PIG PARTS.

    WHY WAS OBAMA ALLOWED TO SWEAR IN CAROLYN WALKER IN AS JUDGE IN THE 7TH MUNICIPAL DISTRICT IN BROOKLING USING THE QURAN. SHE SHOULD BE RECALLED IMMEDIATELLY.

    WHY ARE THEIR 5 MUSLIM CAMPS ONE AT FAIRFAX, FALLS CH, RED HOUSE, MEHERRIN, BETHANY VA. ARE THEY TO INVADE WASH.DC? YOU SHOULD FIND OUT.

    WHY IS THE TAX PAYER FORCED TO FEED AND CLOTH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO KILL US.

    IF YOU WANT A LIST OF THE TOWNS THEY ARE CLOSE TO, CONTACT ME.

    SINCE OUR TROOPS ARE NOT ARMED, YOU CAN TAKE 100 WELL ARMED PEOPLE THAT WANT TO KILL US & TAKE ANY MILITARY BASE IN THIS COUNTRY.

    BETTER WAKE UP & ALLOW OUR TROOPS TO CARRY LOADED GUNS. TODAY OUR CAMPS ARE A FREE KILLING ZONE.

    WHY DO YOU THINK THE MUSLIM MAJOR KILLED SO MANY IN TEXAS & HE IS STILL LIVING???.WHY?

    I CALLED AND VERIFIED THE MUSLIM CAMP CLOSE TO FT. CAMPBELL & A LADY VERIFIED THE FEMA CAMP WITH ARMED GUARDS IN EAST KY. AND THE ONE IN SHAWNEE NATIONAL FORREST IN SOUTHERN ILL. FOR GODS SAKE AND OUR COUNTRY WAKE UP.

    WHY GIVE 5 TERRIOSTS FOR ONE TRAITOR. FOLKS IT GOES ON & ON, WAKE UP AMERICA.

    WHY GIVE 150 BILLION AND ANOTHER 400 MILLION TO IRAN TO FUND A HYDROGEN BOMB, AND TERRIOST?

    WHY STOP THE SHIPMENT OF PLANES & TANKS TO EGYPT WHEN THEIR ARMY KICKED THE RADICALS OUT. I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF WHYS, AND THERE ARE MORE, SUCH AS,

    WHY IS OBAMA & HILLARY TRYING TO BRING IN 160 THOUSAND MUSLIMS?

    WHY TRY AND TAKE OUR GUNS

    WHY DID THEY TRY & BUY UP ALL AMM0

    WHY HAS OUR GOVERNMENT BUILT A FEMA CAMP IN EVERY STATE, SOME MORE THAN ONE. IS IT TO HOUSE MUSLIMS FOR THE TAX PAYER TO FEED?

    WHY HAS THIS GOVERNMENT ALLOWED 35 MUSLIM CAMPS HERE IN THE USA & ONE 9 MILES OVER IN MEXICO, FIVE ARE IN NORTH VIRGINIA. COULD IT BE TO TAKE WASHINGTON?

    GOOGLE THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES. COULD THIS BE THE REASON THEY WANT OPEN BORDERS. IS SHE ON DOPE? HOW CAN ANY CHRISTIAN, VET OR COP VOTE FOR ANYTHING LIKE THIS.

    V

  25. Bill Lockman September 8, 2016 at 5:09 pm Reply

    I think the term “insane” used by the writer of this piece is best applied to the ideas it expresses.

  26. Spunky September 9, 2016 at 12:48 am Reply

    Democrats are going nuts – they have killed off each-other to the point they have to import new ones – see their game play

  27. irish1919 September 10, 2016 at 4:09 am Reply

    If one wants to kill the unborn (living human beings) than live with it but do not include me. When I pay taxes which go directly to abortion (That’s what planned parenthood is all about) then you make me complicit . I believe all those who oppose paying for the killing of the unborn should protest a lot louder. Pro-choice has absolutely nothing to do about women’s health. It’s all a sham to cover up for the heinous acts of the far left . Abortion is murder and should be prosecuted as such. Funny how liberals scorn animal cruelty yet think nothing of taking a defenseless babies life. It’s totally disgusting. Life exists at conception. All these left wing nut jobs try and justify abortion by saying that life dies not start at conception . There is no justification for the murder of a million human lives a year. We all cringe at the likes of the holicaust and all the mass killings over the centuries yet we accept mass murder of human life every year. Ask but one question. What will Jesus say to us about these senseless killings. What do the 10 commandments say? Perhaps we can ask what does that our concious say ? Planned parenthood cannot be supported by taxpayer dollars. Period.

  28. ironbiker September 10, 2016 at 11:05 am Reply

    USEFUL IDIOTS: I’m not a morning person. I used to be a morning person, but after years of early morning shifts at the White House, something changed and I became much more efficient in the evening hours. My wife knows this about me and I recently remarked to her that with all the lying and deception going on in politics, some entrepreneurial politician should run on a platform to “ban mornings.”
    We laughed about it, but it sparked a thought. What’s the difference between the stupidity of claiming to have the ability to “ban mornings” versus the equally outrageous claim that socialist and far-left politicians make when they claim that they are going to make things “free”? Nothing is “free.” Even young children understand that everything has a cost and the only real question is “who is going to pay it?”

    The corrupting nature of absolute power is inherent in a world full of fallible men and women.

    But the lie about making things “free” is only one in a series of lies told to impressionable men and women eager to be manipulated by disingenuous politicians desperately craving power over their lives. Lenin and Stalin are alleged to have used the descriptor “useful idiots” to describe people like this who are lied to, and then become willing accomplices in the destruction of their own freedom.

  29. doug September 10, 2016 at 2:55 pm Reply

    If an abortion is alright, ok, legal, or choice, my right! Than how come no major networks have put this on national television, showing what really happens during the procedure. We show everything else, so I challenge planned parenthood to show start to finish the abortion procedure ! Bet they won’t do it, as a tax payer we have the right to see it, seeing that we are paying for it!

  30. Jack September 11, 2016 at 12:56 am Reply

    “ABORTION”,,THEY(DEMOCRATS),,,BELIEVE IN MURDER ALSO !!!

  31. Don Wood ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ September 11, 2016 at 5:40 pm Reply

    Of course it’s “having a corrosive effect on our national psyche!” More than that, the influx of Islam by the Demon critic Party is bringing them in to vote for them. What they don’t know is that they will be voting in Sharia Law when they have the numbers to support it. GONE is our country and liberty.

  32. dsmark1 September 11, 2016 at 10:02 pm Reply

    The right to choose PREMEDITATED MURDER BY ABORTION is NOT a Right! Allow me to logically and rationally explain.

    Everyone has rights, however, all Rights have limits. The major limit is when, while practicing our Right(s) and Freedom(s), it imposes on another’s Right(s) and Freedom(s). For example: we have the Right and Freedom of Speech yet, we can’t yell FIRE in a crowd. That infringes/imposes on other’s freedom of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    Now, lets apply that to the ‘choice’ and Right of PREMEDITATED MURDER BY ABORTION.

    Contrary to what some might have you believe, women have the Right/Freedom of Choice without PREMEDITATED MURDER BY ABORTION. Prior to getting pregnant, women have the freedom of choice of several birth control methods – from pills to diaphragms, condoms to not having unprotected sex; and demanding the male use a condom.

    Then, there’s the ‘morning after’ pill; and if they are not readily available in your town (never heard of that myself), make it a point to mention it to you OBGYN and have them order them; or when at a location where they do exist, stock up. Like the Boy Scout Motto – be prepared.

    And notice, every Freedom/Right available to women to avoid pregnancy only effects them! Their Choice/Freedom has no effect on anyone else’s rights and freedoms!

    Now, once a woman is pregnant, the dynamic completely changes – there is someone else whose Freedom/Right will be infringed upon if a PREMEDITATED MURDER BY ABORTION takes place – the unborn infant/toddler/teen/adult!

    Now, for those of you who look at that unborn human as nothing but a mass of tissue/tissue mass, find a mirror and take a look at a former mass of tissue/tissue mass!!! That’s right – YOU!!!

    This does not involve any religious beliefs, or any other spiritual aspects; simple based upon Constitutional Rights and Freedoms.

    And I’m not even going to approach the aspect of the Rights of the father!!! That for another day.

    IMHO and belief

  33. reagangs September 12, 2016 at 3:31 pm Reply

    Back in 2000, my wife’s 21 year old younger single daughter, my step daughter, got pregnant. The father, an 18 year old, wanted the abortion, but instead joined the Army. We encouraged her to give birth. It was a rough time and it was a cesarean. And now the baby boy is a 15 year old, 6′ 4″ honor student in the EMS ISD. A good kid waiting for his drivers license. His father, a tech sergeant in the Army, has given child support and an old 1985 pick up truck for his first vehicle. I’m glad we are PRO LIFE.

  34. Mathew Molk September 12, 2016 at 5:16 pm Reply

    None of this makes any seance at all, from the BS writer down to the fool that says it’s allays the women’s fault (Is this joker an a-rab? )

    I am a balls out Republican and staunch Trump supporter and think the cackling witch belongs under the jail, but I cannot buy the friggin abortion issue as an attempt by the Commie-Crats to take away anybody’s freedom.

    This article sounds like something a commie useful fool would use to support a lie against us. I see through it as easily as I see through their Marxist tactics.

    I appreciate the pro and anti abortion fanatic positions but it is not even on the list when the very survival on my entire way of life is at stake. (And my way of life is all about Truth, Freedom and the American way)

    Let;s get Trump elected and the Hilrat put in prison and THEN screw around with the abortion issue when the republic is safe. If we don’t, there could very easily be a civil war that will make a lot of abortions retroactive.

  35. Walter Flatt September 12, 2016 at 5:34 pm Reply

    MILLIONS MORE BLACK AMERICAN BABIES HAVE BEEN KILLED THAN WHITES. SO, WHY DONT THEY RISE UP AGAINST THIS.

  36. Walter Flatt September 12, 2016 at 5:38 pm Reply

    THOMAS JEFFERSON,

    GOOGLE THOMAS JEFFERSON V/S THE MUSLIM WORLD. ALSO, GOOGLE THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES 2015.

    A LAW WAS PASSED IN 19/52 BY CONGRESS BARRING ALL MUSLIMS. THIS WOULD INCLUDING A ALL PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON.

    HISTORY LESSONS THAT SHOULD BE TAUGHT IN SCHOOL. a must read this was accurate. Jefferson got it right.

    When Thomas Jefferson saw there was no negotiating with Muslims, he formed what is now the Marines (sea going soldiers). These Marines were attached to U. S. Merchant vessels. When the Muslims attacked U.S. merchant vessels they were repulsed by armed soldiers, but there is more.

    The Marines followed the Muslims back to their villages and killed every man, woman, and child in the village.

    It didn’t take long for the Muslims to leave U.S. Merchant vessels alone.

    English and French merchant vessels started running up our flag when entering the

    Mediterranean to secure safe travel.

    That is why the Marine Hymn contains the verse, “To the Shores of Tripoli “.

    This is very interesting and a must read piece of our history. It points out where we may be heading.

    Most Americans are unaware of the fact that over two hundred years ago the United States had declared war on Islam, and Thomas Jefferson led the charge.

    At the height of the 18th century, Muslim pirates (the “Barbary Pirates”) were the terror of the Mediterranean and a large area of the North Atlantic .

    They attacked every ship in sight, and held the crews for exorbitant ransoms. Those taken hostage were subjected to barbaric treatment and wrote heart-breaking letters home, begging their governments and families to pay whatever their Mohammedan captors demanded.

    hese extortionists of the high seas represented the North African Islamic nations of Tripoli , Tunis , Morocco , and Algiers – collectively referred to as the Barbary Coast – and presented a dangerous and unprovoked threat to the new American Republic .

    Before the Revolutionary War , U.S. merchant ships had been under the protection of Great Brita in . When the U.S. declared its independence and entered into war, the ships of the United States were protected by France .

    However, once the war was won, America had to protect its own fleets.

    Thus, the birth of the U.S. Navy. Beginning in 1784, 17 years before he would become president, Thomas Jefferson became America ‘s Minister to France . That same year, the U.S. Congress sought to appease its Muslim adversaries by following in the footsteps of European nations who paid bribes to the Barbary States rather than engaging them in war.

    In July of 1785, Algerian pirates captured American ships, and the Dye of Algiers demanded an unheard-of ransom of $60,000. It was a plain and simple case of extortion, and Thomas Jefferson was vehemently opposed to any further payments.

    Instead, he proposed to Congress the formation of a coalition of allied nations who together could force the Islamic states

    into peace. A disinterested Congress decided to pay the ransom.

    In 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams met with Tripoli ‘s ambassador to Great Brita in to ask by what right his nation attacked American ships and enslaved American citizens, and why Muslims held so much hostility towards America , a nation with which they had no previous contacts.

    The two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam “was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran that all nations who would not acknowledge their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

    Despite this stunning admission of premeditated violence on non-Muslim nations, as well as the objections of many notable American leaders, including George Washington, who warned that caving in was both wrong and would only further embolden the enemy, for the following fifteen years the American government paid the Muslims millions of dollars for the safe passage of American ships or the return of American hostages.

    The payments in ransom and tribute amounted to over 20 percent of the United States government annual revenues in 1800.

    Jefferson was disgusted. Shortly after his being sworn in as the third President of the United States in 1801, the Pasha of Tripoli sent him a note demanding the immediate payment of $225,000 plus $25,000 a year for every year forthcoming.

    That changed everything.

    Jefferson let the Pasha know, in no uncertain terms, what he could do with his demand. The Pasha responded by cutting down the flagpole at the American consulate and declared war on the United States .

    Tunis, Morocco , and Algiers immediately followed suit.

    Jefferson, until now, had been against America raising a naval force for anything beyond coastal defense,but, having watched his nation be cowed by Islamic thuggery for long enough, decided that it was finally time

    to meet force with force.

    He dispatched a squadron of frigates to the Mediterranean and taught the Muslim nations of the Barbary Coast a lesson he hoped they would never forget. Congress authorized Jefferson to empower U.S. ships to seize all vessels and goods of the Pasha of Tripoli and to “cause to be done all other acts of precaution or hostility as the state of war would justify”.

    When Algiers and Tunis , who were both accustomed to American cowardice and acquiescence, saw the newly independent United States had both the will and the right to strike back, they quickly abandoned their allegiance to Tripoli .

    The war with Tripoli lasted for four more years, and raged up again in 1815. The bravery of the U.S. Marine Corps in these wars led to the line “to the shores of Tripoli” in the Marine Hymn, and they would forever be known as “leathernecks” for the leather collars of their uniforms, designed to prevent their heads from being cut off by the Muslim scimitars when boarding enemy ships.

    Islam, and what its Barbary followers justified doing in the name of their prophet and their god, disturbed Jefferson quite deeply.

    America had a tradition of religious tolerance. In fact Jefferson, himself, had co-authored the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, but fundamentalist Islam was like no other religion the world had ever seen.

    A religion based on supremacy, whose holy book not only condoned but mandated violence against unbelievers, was unacceptable to him.

    His greatest fear was that someday this brand of Islam would return and pose an even greater threat to the United States .

    This should concern every American. That Muslims have brought about women-only classes and swimming times at taxpayer-funded universities and public pools; that Christians, Jews, and Hindus have been banned from serving on juries where Muslim defendants are being judged; Piggy banks and Porky Pig tissue dispensers have been banned from workplaces because they offend Islamist sensibilities; ice cream has been discontinued at certain Burger King locations because the picture on the wrapper looks similar to the Arabic script for Allah; public schools are pulling pork from their menus; on and on and on and on..

    It’s death by a thousand cuts, or inch-by-inch as some refer to it, and most Americans have no idea that this battle is being waged every day across America . By not fighting back, by allowing groups to obfuscate what is really happening, and not insisting that the Islamists adapt to our culture, the United States is cutting its own throat with a politically correct knife, and helping to further the Islamists’ agenda.

    Sadly, it appears that today America ‘s leaders would rather be politically correct than victorious!

    If you have any doubts about the above information, Google “Thomas Jefferson vs. the Muslim World.”

  37. Terry Jensen September 12, 2016 at 7:08 pm Reply

    I have had lots of different arguments with myself over this issue over the years however, when these corrupt institutions started selling body parts I knew this was NOT on the up and up…..there was much more than I had seen. I wonder how long these monsters have been doing this. I can’t imagine how this can be allowed and that these people aren’t in jail. This is a very irresponsible way of ‘birth control’….the only reason for an abortion is the case of the fetus being severely damaged, the mothers life will be at stake or incest and rape…I could possibly understand that. This should not be funded by our tax dollars EVER!!! Selling parts of a fetus is just plain ‘COLD’…evil personified. Very very sick IMO.

  38. John September 15, 2016 at 7:08 pm Reply

    I can understand non Christians believing that an abortion is nothing, but the number of so called Christians that believe in it is amazing? The Christian believes that the thing that sets us apart from all other Creatures is our soul this is the main reason a true Christian will always be opposed to it.

  39. rothgar September 19, 2016 at 2:40 am Reply

    I’d agree the Devil is remarkably cunning but it is the “Pro-Life Movement” that is the Devil’s tool. The Devil using simplistic logic and our human adoration for our lives to construct a cult so egregious that it could be the worst ever in Human History.
    The likely target of this action is the Church of the Gospel especially in America. Does anyone really think that the masses of people who are rendered criminals or involuntary parents by the prohibition on Abortive procedures are going to rush to embrace the Church that has caused these problems? I think not!
    I note that in the last 26 years when the Evangelical Church has been most closely tied to this cult and Right Wing politics, the number of non-believers has EXPLODED!
    I think the Devil must be enjoying watching all the well meaning Christians firebomb their faith in support of the Right to Life and other Right wing canards but today is about Abortion.
    The Cult of Fetal Humanity is an especially egregious because its members are worshipping HUMAN LIFE not GOD THE FATER. NOT JESUS. And definitely not the HOLY SPIRIT.
    In calling unborn life sacred “Pro-Lifers’ are giving their love of their lives precedence over the Word of God. In Exodus 21:22 the only general reference to any thing like Abortion in all of the Bible – the punishment (an optional fine not a capital murder charge) shows that Jehovah God did NOT view the unborn as human life. Had God viewed Fetuses as Human lives logically the penalty for causing their death would have had to be the same as any other Capital Murder but NO!!
    All of the other verses used by the Cult to justify their positions refer to specific persons who are important to the mission of God to reach humanity and get us to worship him. Whether the verses are about anointed kings, spokespeople (the Prophets), HIS SON, the Man who introduced his son. ALL OF THE VERSES REFER TO SPECIFIC PEOPLE NOT TO ALL OF HUMANITY. Therefore we are dealing with a cult.

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