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Ignorant America: New Poll Shows We Know Nothing About Civics
Posted On 26 Sep 2017
Have you ever watched some idiot liberal espouse their views about the latest Donald Trump outrage and come away thinking, “This guy doesn’t know ANYTHING about our country’s history, founding, or system of government!”? If so, that might not have just been your partisan mind talking. Because according to a new Annenberg Public Policy Center survey, the majority of Americans – especially liberals – are woefully underinformed when it comes to civics and history. It’s not a stretch to say that most of the general public – the VOTING general public – is walking around in a blind daze.
According to the survey, which polled more than 1,000 American adults, only 25% are able to name all three branches of the federal government. Only a QUARTER of the American adult population can name the Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches!? This is not some obscure thing. This is not like asking your average American to name every Supreme Court Justice currently sitting on the bench. This isn’t even asking Americans to name the House Majority Leader. This is basic, fundamental, fourth-grade stuff here. This is asking, “What ocean borders California?” There’s no excuse for this kind of widespread ignorance, and my GOD, is it widespread!
How about this: 37% of respondents could not name A SINGLE RIGHT protected by the First Amendment. No wonder we’re seeing anti-free speech movements growing on college campuses. No wonder so many liberals think that the rights of gay couples should trump the rights of Christians. More than a third of the country isn’t even aware of the CONCEPT of free speech, or at least the fact that it is enshrined in the Constitution. This is bizarre, sad, and troubling for the future of our country.
“Protecting the rights guaranteed by the Constitution presupposes that we know what they are. The fact that many don’t is worrisome,” said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, director of the APPC. “These results emphasize the need for high-quality civics education in the schools and for press reporting that underscores the existence of constitutional protections.”
Forget “high-quality” education! It emphasizes the need for EDUCATION. Period. It should not take a civics class of any renown to convey these basic, fundamental American concepts! This is first-day stuff. And frankly, we don’t buy that this is about some failure in our public schools (or the damn media) that can be corrected by throwing more money on the fire. Every single person that took this survey learned this stuff in school. Or, perhaps to say it better, they were taught it in school. Whether they learned it or not is another matter. The poll would suggest they did not.
Oh, and about that “3 branches of government” question, it actually gets worse. A full third of American adults cannot name a SINGLE branch of the federal government. Not one! When these idiots think about the government, there’s apparently just a blank space in their mind, or a few random mental images of Donald Trump…?
Absolutely terrifying, when you think about the implications.
Can you pass this 100-question U.S. Civics Quiz? Give it a try! Most questions are taken right from the U.S. Naturalization Exam. All have multiple choice answers. Please choose the BEST answer.
http://civicsquiz.com/100-question-u-s-civics-quiz/
Can you pass this 20-question U.S. Civics Quiz? Give it a try! Most questions are taken right from the U.S. Naturalization Exam. All have multiple choice answers. Please choose the BEST answer.
http://civicsquiz.com/20-question-u-s-civics-quiz/
Piece of cake but I’ll bet MOST cannot answer them all(…I DID!!…;-)
Not bad for an old fart that been out of school for years. I answered 17 out of 20 correct.
..Hmm…I thought the 100 question quiz would be more difficult….NOT!!….100% yet AGAIN!!
Just took the test, 20 out of 20. It wasn’t even difficult. then again, i was born in 1950 and attended first 3 yrs in parochial school
BECAUSE —- they don’t teach civics anymore – or history and NOW MATH…..
Demo☭rats what their supporters to be ig’nate and dependent.
The education system in this country is only interested in teaching the precepts of the new false idol: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. Their purpose is to indoctrinate; not educate. They have produced several generations of illiterate boobs who can’t make change or think rationally. The youth of today are mindless zombies who blindly march to the vile, evil drummer – LIBERALISM (FASCISM, COMMUNISM, PROGRESSIVE, GLOBALISM, etc.).
You hit the nail on the head. Great post!!!
All these names = communism via the DNC and evil elite globalists.
DEMO☭RAT POLITI☭AL ☭ORRECTNESS, LIBERALISM (FAS☭ISM, ☭OMMUNISM, PRO☭RESSIVE, GL☭BALISM
So…it appears that LeeRoy would rather have the youth of AMERIKA, march to the drum of the Supreme Leader in the White Supremacy House, and Sieg Heil on command, like good Brown Shirts did for Adolph.
This is the way a dictator like Obo wants to be can take charge of the USA
You DO know that Obama is no longer President, do you not?
I was just thinking how much I’d like to have some of that money that you people believe George Soros is handing out.
J. R. Davis, it is a TRUE FACT you moron. Hey conservatives !! Another DUMRAT.
TRUE FACT is redundancy, BB. So…where’s the farkakteh MONEY?
I bet Obummer’s common core decreed for public school curriculum contains little or weak civics.
tg, and as he was never seen in either college by professors or students, how did he get a spot at a visiting lecturer on the Constitution – which class was immediately closed down after I believe 2 sessions because he was and is not an American city and came as a foreign student and make a great choom fried brain puppet to help the DNC and globalists destroy this country.
That would be the UN and Bilderberg society .
I took the 100 question quiz and got 97%. Not bad for a 76 year old!
That is because you went to school before they were controlled by the Union and Democrats .
Correct
Public education hasn’t been the same since the mid 60’s when the Federal government enticed educators with tax dollars and promised that there would be no strings attached. I remember the back and forth about the issue, with the educators being gung ho and the parents concern for future Federal control. We all know how that worked out,now they control who uses which restroom. The schools don’t teach basic civics or history past the Vietnam war any more
Libs took over & now teach community activism/agitation, bullying techniques,shaking-down biz/people/city council, sexual perversion, lib claptrap & oh yeah how to keep people angry about slavery of 200+ yrs ago,anti-GOD RHETORIC. LIBS USE RACE GENDER AGE INCOME & religion to pit people. It works; lots of useful ignorant idiots out here!
Vladmir Lenin called them “useful idiots’, Hillary Clinton called them “compliant sheep”.
Please include Trump in the idiots group until a lunatics group is organized.
If you think President Trump is an idiot? You just showed us all who the real idiot is. Please stand up and take a bow!
LOL! Good one Btty!
😉 Thank you.
Great Post!!!
Thank you Tony! 😉
would rather take a knee, or bend over (homo)
Yeah, I can see you bending over! Right up your alley.
Look….it’s a troll
Your right George…Tony is your typical troll…we can spot those idiots a mile away.
Ah gee, am I getting to you guys, hmmm. A troll is a lot taller than a snake that he is.
Your lower then worm shit tony.
COMA CACA JOTA !!!
THAT WAS MEANT FOR “TONY BOOOREADA”
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He’s far from and idiot, but you liberals sure are. Don’t you call Dr. Carson an idiot too, just because he didn’t stay on the Democratic Plantation of Slavery for a vote? LOL Dr. Carson, CEO of Kellogg, Board of Cost co for 18 years, renown neurosurgeon who saved over 15,000 children’s lives from sure death with the most difficult and precise surgery known to modern medicine standing on his feet for over 24 hours at a time, knowing one slip of the scapel could either put a child into a vegetatie state, or kill them. Many more accolades and titles connected to Dr. Carson, including the youngest person EVER to be CHIEF OF NEUROSURGERY AT JOHN HOPKINS. Yeah, you idiots called him stupid. NEWS FLASH, only about 2% of the population could become neurosurgeons, and you loons who are nothing but brainwashed Communist call anyone who has made millions, or billions, like Trump, because of their intelligence STUPID because they don’t follow the same damn drummer that you idiots do. BO is stupid, the man thinks there are 57 states! Cant pronounce corpsman, and provided weapons to our enemy, along with Killary, now that’s stupid. BO, just a community organizer who made millions, you tell me how he did it? How did Killary make her millions! CHEATING, MURDERING, LYING her way to the top. Yeah Tony, now you’re really stupid aren’t you! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a409952c199fe2691facd54b0f64a29e86411ab4cb1b217eb574de6ae2f7f14b.jpg
This may not be entirely Tony’s fault. He may not have been afforded a formal education, due to lack of funds, or his family up bringing?
Which ever, it’s a shame to have to go thru life with liberalism as a thought process.
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If he was raised in America in a liberal state he definitely had an education and they is precisely the problem.
🔥This is what the Communists are doing to the left in America. They have been programming our youth for decades. They are now suffering from ideological subversion, what I called Stockholm syndrome. Yet it is so much worse. Do take the time to see this video.
ideological subversion
https://youtu.be/mqSV72VNnV0
you said it all killary is a very EVIL person, the Clintons have been involved in drug running, prostution, murder, remember I smoked 1 pot cig. but I didn’t inhale shoot that is because he was more into coke anyone due to testify against them conviently commits suicide with a bullet in the back of the head within 3 days of testifying, they are evil, evil people I would have voted for a dog catcher before her
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Frankly I think the Clintons got involved with AIDS because Bill has HIV maybe even full out AIDS. Look at his forehead in this photo. There are countless photos with large sores all over his face. Some heal, and then show up somewhere else.
Even their work with AIDS victims is nothing but lies. CLINTON FOUNDATION & AIDS: Hillary lied again. That do good the CF does, well people would definitely argue over that!
Clinton Foundation Gave ‘Watered-Down’ AIDS Drugs | The Daily Caller
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/19/exclusive-clinton-foundation-aids-program-distributed-watered-down-drugs-to-third-world-countries/
Hillary is not a Christian at all. She hates Christians and freely said so.
Have a look at the Democrats. At least read the heading titles as it will give you a real look at how corrupt the entire Communist Democrat Party is. It is irony that they can claim the higher road about who should have been elected. Thank God Americans saw through the corruption and lies.
Dems hate everyone. Top 100 Most Damaging WikiLeaks. http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/
Hillary describes Democrat voters as stupid: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5a2357bcee9f717f7bb84ab6f5f26614be62bb987c91c60b1ef3fe32b7e9b4f2.jpg
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Your an ass hole Tony
Haha, another Trumpian pig resigns for illegally spending taxpayers’ money. Lock him up.
AJT Once an ass hole always an Ass HOLE. What are you going on 4 now? You should be deported to your favorite Arab country!!! See if they will put up with you shit ass hole
Let’s say that I was born an ass hole, but it’s evident that you all were made Trump’s ass hole.I truly did not want to stoop to your level, but here it is.
Hey let me know when your sucking dick again would you I hear you do a good job on Liberals, want you to try a real man.
What real man would want another to do that. UGH. Statements like that makes me believe that you are doing it yourself on lunatic Trump.
Just gpt a n e mail about you, it read you need to put a telephone poll across your legs as you been screwed so much a guy is taking his chances and will be swallowed up in your ass hole. I was surprised and wrote back if he knew first hand and said Yes. So we know what kind of a man your are. Faggy
It’s now okay to come out of the closet, sweet
I was laughing show hard your statement that I meant what real man would want another man to do that. UGH. Makes me believe that that’s what you are doing to lunatic Trump. Double UGH!!!
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President Trump knows what Alinski’s aims were, and he is fighting to reverse his dictates which have been followed by the last two Democratic administrations and their appointed minions, hundreds of whom are still warming the bureacrats’ seats.
Well now, you’ve just let the cat out of the bag, you’re a full blown liberal idiot.
President Trump, regardless of his flaws, has literally saved the USA as it was intended to be by stopping Hillary Clinton and the socialist/globalist agenda. His nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the SCOTUS, and other nominations of justices who still believe in the US Constitution to lower courts, will do more to get us back on track and actually preserve and protect every aspect of the Bill of Rights than anything else he could do. Every citizen who believes in the vision of our Founding Fathers and the success, freedom, and security we have enjoyed for over two centuries, despite our mistakes, owes President Trump a vast measure of thanks and appreciation.
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You must be an useful Idiot for the democrat cry baby communist liberals party. Good job but it won’t work out for you communist stupid morons.
Oh goodness my fellow Patriot. You’re in a huff.
And you are a useful IDIOT for the democrat cry baby communist party.
WE’LL TAKE THAT FROM YOUR MORON GROUP MUCHACHA !!!
When you have ten billion in the bank then you can talk bullshit but until that time STFU moron POS.
Tillerson knows Trump, so he can call him a moron. People work for their money, Trump used and uses tax dollars to enrich himself and inherited most of it. And yes, some billionaires worked for their riches, but you don’t hear talk trash.
Don’t blame Trump for what the sorry US Government said he could do.
It is the Alinsky plan! Check it out, doesn’t this sound like the BO REGIME and KILLARY?https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4994a26452f74a8bac070b7a0151a3a9afffac7439576172819b43a8b5716723.jpg
I was just going to say that some else has also heard of Saul Alinsky and his book, “Rule for Radicals” which was taken from Vladmir Lenin’s philosophy. Hillary Clinton had actually worked for and was a student of Alinsky, as was Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. What is the old saying about “there is nothing new under the sun” it just comes back around. Barack Obama used Alinsky’s outline to the letter over the last eight years and the very reason that we have polarization, division, turmoil and chaos boiling over in our politics and streets now. It appears that fine minds think alike k9maiden
George Durdin — k9maiden and yourself, in my opinion, are absolutely correct! Also, what you say is something EVERYONE needs to internalize. Congratulations to you both . . . I really mean it!
We certainly are seeing the class warfare going on. The Left have control of our schools and universities and they must be weeded out.
It will take a CIVIL WAR to weed out all democrats and communist liberals.
There is going to be a day when that is true, I’m sorry to say. Our country is crawling with enemies.
THE MANY LEVELS OF LAWS IN AMERICA
We now are a country with so many levels of laws there is no fairness.
One for each of the following:
1) GLOBALISTS: elite, dictators and tyrants like Obama, Hillary, Soros, and all their minions.
2) ILLEGAL ALIENS: who murder and rape, organize gangs, drug cartels pushing drugs, all sponging off our welfare system and taxpayer dollars; the liars, cheaters, and thieves, when caught are released on our streets to continue their crimes. They live in sanctuary cities where locals stop I.C.E. from entering. Worst they spit in American faces claiming rights they are not entitled to, not the least is illegally voting, literally stealing the governing rule of our country.
3) CITIES and STATES: who don’t believe Federal Laws apply to them.
4) MUSLIMS: who are illegally setting up their own cities under Shariah, an extremely dangerous precedent, which is illegal and a violation of our Constitution.
5) DOMESTIC TERRORIST GROUPS: BLM, Antifa and like groups, who are committing crimes right and left, and allowed to walk free.
6) COMMUNIST Anti-American Democrats, which include the Globalists: who not only setup corrupt courts to violate our Constitution, but communism itself is illegal in America. They include the Deep State & Shadow Government. They intend to destroy America, steal our sovereignty, for the New (One) World Order.
7) CORRUPT COURTS writing laws from the bench to their bias ideology.
8) LGBTQ: who think they must oppress every other human on Earth Because they are insecure about who they are. Their brains are in chaos.
9) JOE and JANE DOE AMERICAN: Have you ever heard the expression “last but not least”? Well the last is getting the least respect, yet we are the workers supporting the entire country: the laws for the average Americans last on the list.
Frankly, I believe we need to clean out every single one of those groups, except equal laws for all! Enough is enough!
—•—
ENEMIES
•The Democrat Party, who are communists literally and owned by the
•Globalists who intend to rule the world as a New (One) World Order.
•Too many of the Republicans, who were Democrats who ran for Republican seats and won under false flags.
•Soros, billionaire paying for our destruction.
•The socialists, too stupid to know socialism historically ALWAYS fails, when they run out of other people’s money to steal and turns into communism.
•The shadow gov’t that is operating portions of our country as though they won the election,
•Their corrupt courts that are blocking our Constitutionally elected president, and writing illegal laws from the bench.
•The deep state, which involves the “alphabet” intelligence agencies.
•The crossovers between those groups: the hidden elements of the military, the elites of the business world and global leaders who make their millions from the war efforts, the technology fields whose arrogance thinks they have the right to crush out our will for theirs. They think money makes them smarter, while all it really means is they are the biggest bullies in the room.
•George Soros, who is spending his $38 BILLION against us, and his son who is matching those funds.
•The mercenary groups Soros funds, like Antifa and BLM. The 200 different organizations he controls and hides under different names. The politicians Soros owns.
•The legions of education faculty brainwashing our youth (Soros funded)
•The snowflakes, now suffering idealogical subversion & betraying their country.
•The news media
•Hollywood elite
•ISIS, those international and domestic.
•Muslims and the jihad training camps throughout America
•Muslim terrorist groups flourishing right out in the open, CAIR, HAMAS, the Muslim Brotherhood and all its affiliates.
•All forms of Islam, illegal and too dangerous to be in America, due to it’s core tenant to overthrow our gov’t
•M-13
•Drug gangs and opioids
•Illegal Aliens parasites, who break our laws, take more then they ever give
•All the Americans who follow in blind faith those above, rather then study and understand who those enemies are and their intentions.
•North Korea
•Saudi Arabia indoctrinating our school children
•to some degree China and Russia
•Refugee parasites
•The disease epidemics the foreigners are bringing into America
••Probably the worst are the politicians who were put into office to protect America, who flood our country with all the enemies above. They are corrupt and utter failures.
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Bella Gray — Well said!
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LIBERAL ASSHOLE TROLL
MEET THE BLOCK !!!
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Anti-Gun anti-America now go back under your rock loser.
Out of the mouths of babes . . . . .
Thanks. We, as a country, are in a very bad position. I saw a chart the other day that demonstrated that Congress has been a massive failure in all ways. Since just after WWII we have been in a downward spiral from all their poor decisions.
Bella Gray — You’re very welcome!
Is it Frank? I blocked that him a long time ago, so I can’t see his posts, nor can he see mine. He is a black racist, big time.
Bella Gray — I don’t know anything about all that . . . What I DO know, however, is that what you posted earlier (actually, five days ago) was very well said.
Oh AntiGOP. Nope I blocked AntiGOP and Frank long ago. He/she/it, can’t see my posts nor can I see those people’s. Franks’s were constant racist remarks using black slang. AntiGOP, I can’t recall, but was as bad. I have discovered there are some people that are so deranged from the Left it is exhausting to try and reach them, and when you add in that they are belligerent, I just find it easier to use the down arrow beside any of their posts and block them. They can’t see my post and I can no longer see theirs. That is why I was guessing.
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You were referencing my post about Law & Enemies. Thanks, when I gave the situation in America some thought I jotted things down. America is a mess. What is concerning is that historically when great nations are in their final days before they collapse, they all enter that exact stage. All of it was caused by the Communist Anti-American Democrats and the RINOS. If we cannot drive all Democrats out of office, including the RINOS, we are in serious trouble. They are preventing Trump from cleaning up the other things happening.
What happened in Las Vegas is going to be child’s play for what is coming. I have been researching for over two years, and the information I have collected would turn your hair gray.
” I just find it easier to use the down arrow beside any of their posts and block them. ”
Well, I’ll be. I had thought that clicking on a downward-pointing arrow was just a vote against.
LOL, the down arrow below the post does that. It is the down arrow to the right of that person’s post that gives you the option to block them. You would be surprised at the relief you feel when you don’t have to see some of those aggressively belligerent posts, LOL
That day ( CIVIL WAR ) is right around the corner sooner then anyone thinks.
Yes, sadly I think that is true. The Communist Anti-American Democrats have literally been breeding enemies of America, and importing them, all so they could own their votes.
This is what the Communists are doing to the left in America. They have been programming our youth for decades. They are now suffering from ideological subversion, what I called Stockholm syndrome. Yet it is so much worse. Do take the time to see this video.
ideological subversion
https://youtu.be/mqSV72VNnV0
Obama Expendable Americans
How many of you out there want to be replaced? That’s the Communist Anti-American Democrat plan. You aren’t worth anything to them, so they have decided to steal everything from you, and give your country to the 3rd world, and guess what — make you pay for the invader takeover. I hope you have another plan for your children and grandchildren, because they will not have America, if the Communist Anti-American Democrats ever get control again — you and yours are expendable.
Trump Opposes U.N. Plan to ‘Replace’ U.S. Population – Liberty Headlines
… In the fall of 2016 Obama hosted the U.N. Leaders’ Summit on Refugees in New York, where he and other world leaders used rhetoric strikingly similar to the concept of “replacement migration,” a U.N. plot to replace the population of a given country with migrants and “refugees” from the developing world….
Read this very enlightening article here: http://www.libertyheadlines.com/trump-opposes-u-n-plan-replace-u-s-population/
I can’t even begin to deconstruct the misconceptions, falsehoolds, and outrights lies on which this rant is based. Bella, you have drink the Kool-Aid. Someday, perhaps, you will inform yourself independently and realize how off-the-mark your observations really are. I hope you do.
Keep to your delusions Anthony if it helps you to cope, but there are few people who do not know the score on these issues.
Millard Huff — Likely VERY true …………… scary stuff, very frankly!
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Is that your father and brother too the left of Trump looks like it real suck asses you liberals are.
Remember there are two sides (at least) to any war. The “weeding out” could equally eliminate all Alt-Right, Tea Party, No Tax, Head-in-the-Sand, Know-Nothing “Screw the Rest of the World” Conservatives. Since those folks can’t even agree on how to achieve their own “conservative” agenda, I am inclined to think the non-Conservative side is more likely to prevail — especially since the majority of the American public apparently agrees with them.
You keep thinking that the tea party has there stuff together.
You are an ignorant fool. Be careful that your mouth doesn’t overload your azz.
IF you get rid of #2…#3 & #5 & #6 & #8 won’t be a problem. IF whitey is racist as they say we are, there wouldn’t be any blacks left here. I HAVE A DREAM
I have a dream also that all Communist democrats and Rino’s would be kill off by each other.
And killary Clinton is a hard core communist as well as all democrats and all are useless Idiots.
Millard Huff / Bella Gray / k9maiden — Gosh, unless I’m incorrect, I believe that “AntiGOP” has opinions, which significantly differ from ours, eh?!?
AntiGOP is a cry baby libtard democrats and a communist.
AntiGOP is nothing more than a useful IDIOT for the communist leborat party nothing more.
24% of America thinks America is headed in the right direction…
76% of America thinks the 24% are morons !!
Only one step up from idiots!
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Is that your stupid ass on the left of Trump.
Their twin brothers from another mother !!
LMAO
These are the reasons intelligent voters don’t vote Democrat.
Hell, Alinsky’s thought even reached into the Episcopal Church…..and probably a few others!
For those who don’t know what Kenneth is talking about:
Saul Alinsky plus
I put this together long ago, as a way to explain to people what was happening. My remarks are in brackets. The Globalists are Communist/Islamists, and they have absorbed control of the Democrats.
First, WHO ARE THE GLOBALISTS: Simply put, the globalist movement is an alliance based on self-interest of the private international financiers and the royal, dynastic and hereditary land owning families of Britain, Europe and America which over the years have intermarried to create a self regenerating power structure that through lies and deception seeks to control everything and everyone on earth. Through their control of the ability to create money, they are able to exercise control over all the power centers of society including the corporations, the media, culture creation, the educational system, the historical societies, the political system, the military, religion, foundations and other NGOs, medicine, and law. Over time they have extended their network of control to include elites from countries all over the world working towards the same end.
Here is their plan:
SAUL DAVID ALINSKY: Socialism, liberalism, progressivism, and Marxism, are euphemisms for communism. Why? Because the former always turns into the latter when they run out of other people’s money to steal. They hide in plain sight under those euphemisms because communism is illegal in America. For communism to be in America means a coup has overthrown our Constitution, and our Congress sold its soul and was a part of it for it to succeed. For those who don’t know who Alinsky is and why we need to:
HOW TO CREATE A SOCIAL STATE by Saul Alinsky
There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.
•[Hillary Clinton wrote her term paper on Saul Alinsky’s work and President Obama also studied him. They both consider him their role model.]
This is what they bring to us by force. This is communism. Communism is illegal in America, as it overthrows our Constitution, yet our officials sit with their tails between their legs, or sold their souls; and Congress does nothing to convict those in Congress who support this sedition. Their supporters need to recognize that with Communism in control they have lost all their rights. They have nothing but those rights communism choses to allow or choses to remove. It is through the Constitution that all our rights come from. It is that document that allows us to reign in an over-reaching government of tyranny. Without our Constitution we have no rights. Communism is a foreign government invasion and illegal in America, yet it is currently flourishing.
1) HEALTHCARE – Control healthcare and you control the people.
•[Obamacare, which robs medical care from the middle class and give it to the poor.]
2) POVERTY – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and cannot fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
•[Make welfare the easy answer to the masses, because people cannot live without it—they are owned. Make the nation’s spending so high taxes must be raised. Flood us with dependent aliens. Impose mountains of regulations, raise business taxes so high companies move out.]
3) DEBT – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
•[Massive dangerous $20-trillion debt, added to daily, with frivolous spending and bringing in indigents that belong to foreign countries. They sap our resources, burden our society in every way, drive town wages, destroy our culture, bring dissension…]
4) GUN CONTROL – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the tyranny of Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
•[Everyday they try harder to get our guns, Hawaii and California top the list. They have passed laws that impact people on SS, yet not one old person shot up anyone. What they want is to set legal precedence, so they can claim our 2nd Amendment is not sacrosanct. This is a corrupt legal maneuver.]
5) WELFARE – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
•[A continue rising above 43% of Americans are on welfare, and the Dems. grow it daily with poor policies, and now adding the hundreds of thousand of illegal aliens and refugees to skyrocket the numbers.]
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6) EDUCATION – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
•[Obama gave the Internet away on 30 Sep, with the goal of eventually preventing us from connecting and sharing uncensored information. Censorship will fade in until it is equal to communist nations like China. Already censoring is being done: He redacted the news media, and they distort the Web searches. He refuses and stalls lawful FOIA requests and is still managing to do that through his minions even while he is not in office. No one can argue that the liberals do not have control of our universities, as the “snowflakes” prove that they do. They are now in the grade schools teaching their diversity, BLM’s racial hatred, and Islam. One has even begun segregating.]
Understand that Obama has brought BLM in a advisors to the WH. Also be sure to see this secretly filmed video, as it shows you what they are doing to our children in schools. This is racist evil. You may have to Web search the title, because they pulled it when I posted it. “Obama has allowed BLM, black power agenda to fundamentally transform American schools – we have proof | BizPac Review”
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/08/29/obama-allowed-blm-black-power-agenda-fundamentally-transform-american-schools-proof-384118?utm_source=BizPac+Review+Email+Newsletter&utm_campaign=96e536fe42-8_30_168_30_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fbf9323fb3-96e536fe42-32523449
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Now look at this:
Obama Administration Tells Black Parents Their School Choices Are Racist
The U.S. Department of Justice has resurrected a 1965 case to impose its will on a Mississippi school district, ignoring local efforts to integrate through school choice.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/04/obama-administration-tells-black-parents-school-choices-racist/
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Savagery and Murder: An Epidemic of Black Violence Against Elderly Whites | Frontpage Mag
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/264420/savagery-and-murder-epidemic-black-violence-jack-kerwick
7) RELIGION – Remove the belief in God from the Government and schools.
•[Clearly everyone can see this, no Christian prayers over meals in school, the removal of Christmas from business advertisements, stripped from public buildings and school, prayer removed and penalized from military presentations—Yet they bring in the evils of Islam.]
8) CLASS WARFARE – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
•[You hear it constantly “Take the money from the rich, redistribute the wealth. You see the elected like the Clintons walking above the law. Obama, now a tyrant, writing illegal executive orders right and left putting himself above the law. You see him breaking our laws on every front and using intimidation and threats to gain his wants. He uses the DOJ, FBI, StateDept, and the IRS to suppress those who stand against him. The problem is not too little socialism, it is too much. When half the country is on welfare they are draining society’s wealth and not adding to it. The more on welfare the more taxing done, and the less everyone has, because it went through the government bureaucracy that eats large portions and no government run program is free of fraud and abuse, it generally has tons of it.]
Saul David Alinsky (January 30, 1909 – June 12, 1972) was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community organizing. He is often noted for his book “Rules for Radicals.”
Hillary Clinton has a radical past:
“…The Washington Free Beacon put together an excellent report about new letters between Hillary Clinton and Saul Alinsky, the infamous community organizer who wrote ‘Rules for Radicals.’ That book, which Alinsky dedicated to ‘Lucifer,’ became the handbook for racial agitators and left-wing political problem causers.”
You can believe this, because it’s true.
Oh believe me I know how true it is. I have been researching for two years now. However I discovered the Democrats are not actually socialist, but are out right communists. They were merely using socialism as a means to “sneak” communism into America and have it be accepted. Historically socialism ALWAYS fails and becomes communism and they are already communists.
The Communist Anti-American Democrats have moved beyond just planning and are now implementing communism in the cities and states they are in control of, they build cesspool.
Communist Cesspools
This is what I keep trying to tell people, the Communist Anti-American Democrats are breeding cesspool in every city and state they control. This is what you get with open borders.
I was talking with a guy who lives in San Francisco who said they are destroying his city too. They let in so many illegal aliens their streets are full of them. There is no place you can avoid them. They even camp on the courthouse grounds.
They are very aggressive, in your face, begging for money and if you don’t give them enough they literally urinate on you. I saw a video where a women was telling about how the women where rubber boots even in the summer because of the contamination all over. She was telling about how one that confronted her urinated on her. She was on Hannity talking about it. Hannity told her it was assault, which it is true.
They defecate everywhere. He said it is so thick on the stairways and escalators that the city has to come out once a month and water blast it off. He said it sets up like cement and it stinks everywhere like an outhouse. Of course that sends feces flying every where. THIS IS WHAT THE DEMOCRATS WILL BRING TO AMERICA WITH OPEN BORDERS!
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San Diego Begins Bleaching Streets To Contain Outbreak Of Hepatitis A –
The majority of those sickened by this viral infection outbreak have been homeless people.
A letter from San Diego County health officials stated that hepatitis A is being spread through contact with a “fecally contaminated environment” as well as person-to-person transmission.
A big part of the problem is an apparent lack of public restrooms in areas where the homeless population congregates.
Hepatitis A is a highly contagious viral infection, which can prove fatal.
http://freedomoutpost.com/san-diego-begins-bleaching-streets-contain-outbreak-hepatitis/
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See what I mean, the Communist Anti-American Democrats running NYC are allowing it there too. No one in their right mind should EVER elect a Democrat to any office. This is a health hazard that will spread diseases! The Democrats are building cesspools of 3rd world illegals, which citizens have to deal with.
New York City To Allow Public Urination, So Minorities Can…
The left-wingers who run New York City are about to make it 100% legal to urinate in public.
Why? Because many blacks and minorities have been fined or arrested for it. They would rather legalize this disgusting behavior than enforce basic rules of public sanitation.
http://thepoliticalinsider.com/40005-2/
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Here a whole street light collapses and nearly kills someone because of all the urine that corroded the lower portion of the pole.
Corroded By Urine, San Fransisco Light Pole C | The Daily Caller
http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/06/corroded-by-urine-san-fransisco-light-pole-collapses-nearly-killing-man/#ixzz3i2TZd9xH
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Hepatitis A is a highly contagious viral infection, which can prove fatal.
http://freedomoutpost.com/san-diego-begins-bleaching-streets-contain-outbreak-hepatitis/
Corroded By Urine, San Fransisco Light Pole C | The Daily Caller
http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/06/corroded-by-urine-san-fransisco-light-pole-collapses-nearly-killing-man/#ixzz3i2TZd9xH
Parts of San Francisco literally stink, it’s getting to be that bad! It’s a public health menace!
Absolutely it is, on both fronts. Sad for the residents who aren’t Communist Anti-American Democrats, but the others are getting what they deserve.
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🔥 CA is a canary in the coal mine and shows you what you will get with the Communist Anti-American Democrats in control of your state, your country, and it isn’t pretty. As CA has decided to take a death spiral into socialized medicine. The leaders might as well put a pistol to the heads of their constituents. Link on out and read what is going on.
Is California About to Commit Economic Suicide?
http://www.conservativefreepress.com/economy/california-commit-economic-suicide/
Did you ever notice all the areas in America that are now cesspools, are run by Communist Democrat Globalists? The reason they are screaming and wanting more and more socialism is because the businesses are leaving in drove, and people who could afford to leave have left. They are hotbeds of rebellion and violence that no one wants any part of living in. Thus they have lost their tax base.
That means higher taxes, which make the citizens scream even more. Which makes, in CA’s case, the rich Hollywood types think “we must have” more socialism for these folks, so I can keep my riches. They may be good actors, but they are stupid on economics. Especially when Californians have allowed their states to be flooded with parasites from other countries. America cannot, and should not be asked to, support the world’s poor. Do you gamble at all? The first thing they teach you is NEVER gamble with the principal, because once that is gone you are out of the game. We can help no one, if we allow ourselves to be destroyed, as the Communist Democrat Globalists are doing.
CA is in dire straits to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars every year, 500 BILLION carry over, and it is going up rapidly because the tax base is leaving. Thus misery loves company, so they want to suck off us, like the leached they now are. That will do nothing but destroy us too. All of this is because of Communist Democrat Globalists policies. Again because they need America to fail, to enable them to overthrow America for the One World Order.
California alone, for example, is considered an illegal alien magnet with 34 percent of the nation’s welfare recipients. State and local spending on welfare programs in California are expected to reach $38.6 billion while the state’s long-term debt load approaches $500 billion. The business and tax climate in California is horrific and getting worse. In 2011, 73,000 companies both large and small – 5.2 percent of the 1.3 million total – fled the state in search of more business-friendly locales, or went belly up.
So if they want to leave, as they say they do, America can build a wall with them on the outside, no doors, no commerce exchange, nothing to them, no Federal aid, no military support. Don’t forget that massive numbers of Americans will leave, because America is still a safer bet then a foreign country the size of a state. The big businesses, with the exception of Hollywood, will leave. No one stays in an unstable country fledgling.
When they are overthrown, and they will be before the ink is dry on the separation papers, don’t come knock on our door, because you left. CA Communist leaders are so stupid. CA will be invaded by every leach from every 3rd world country out there. The gun runners, drug runners, and cartels will see them as easy picking.
The diseases those invaders will bring will also decimate their state/country, because right now they are already causing serious issues spread out in America. They are bringing highly infectious disease epidemics: Polio, Leprosy, TB, Measles, Scarlet Fever, drug resistant Gonorrhea, to name but a few; because they were not inoculated from birth. Those coming from Africa, where 70% are infected, bring HIV and AIDs. A dreadfully deadly disease with massive risks and expense into America. Moreover, those coming across the Mexican border, hundreds of thousand YEARLY are indeed rapists, murders, drug deals, and criminals, even ISIS. I checked the government stats on that myself. They are also ISIS, as the drug smugglers have told us they have been bring them in. Open borders are deadly to Americans and America.
While they try to survive that, they will no longer have even a small say in America’s doings. Americans will by rights see them as the traitors they are, and cut them off, just like CA claims it wants. No commerce in or out. They can be the little island they want to be. What a joke. Just how long will they last when the foreign leaches suck them dry? Hack your watch kiddies, because it won’t be long. Oh and don’t forget that 500 BILLION DOLLARS it owes America. Be sure to pay that before you go. So no, CA cannot leave, because their downfall will amount to putting an enemy force on our land.
There are actually three…..and maybe four…..Californias, and I don’t mean they’re geographically separate: Independents like me, who live and work in the farming and ranching areas, and who can’t stand those who don’t give a damn about the field workers who are necessary to harvest the crops because most are Mexicans, liberal Democrats who’ve damn near ruined this country of ours for many years, culminating in eight years of Demonocracy during the Obama administration, and have gotten filthy rich off of our backs, Republicans who so often thought of themselves as the party of the rich and for the rich, and who are now often called RINOS because they oppose the President, and the Hollywood elite who’re so damn stupid that they swallow everything the liberal Democrats spoonfeed them…..hook, line, and sinker!
LOL, I know! It’s like the whole world is going to hell in a hand basket. The vast amount of Congress is not working for what is best for Americans or America. That said there are very few in the Republican Party and absolutely none in the Democrat, who have not “lost the meaning” if you are familiar with Harrison Ford’s role in “Witness.”
However you will not find a supporter in me for illegal aliens. You come here legally or you don’t come at all. We have VISAs to enable foreigners to come and work. Border security is too important to leave a hole anywhere in the wall that allows illegals in, because that is a hole for enemies like ISIS and rug runners. I am also not in favor of any foreigner leaching off our welfare system.
This is URGENT!!! You need to write your Congress! They must write a bill ASAP that makes this illegal. CA is knowingly and purposely containating the blood supply. People do not have an option when they need blood. Having contaminated blood force upon them is ATTEMPTED MURDER! This is maliciously reckless and endangering American lives! 🔥 OMG! 🔥
Knowingly Exposing HIV to Others Decriminalized in CA, Including Blood Banks –
Under previous law in California, it was considered a felony to knowingly expose others to HIV, a sexually transmitted disease (STD), that is not curable.
On Friday, California Governor Jerry Brown signed a new bill that lessens the crime of knowingly exposing others to HIV without telling them, from a felony to a misdemeanor.
As if that is not bad enough…..this new law also applies to blood banks. People will not be required to tell blood banks that they are HIV-positive and can therefor freely donate their infected blood.
Not only is this disgusting, but it could potentially cause the disease to spread even more as people will not be as worried about the consequences.
LA Times reports that the reason he signed the bill is because:
Modern medicine allows those with HIV to live longer lives and nearly eliminates the possibility of transmission, according to state Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco) and Assemblyman Todd Gloria (D-San Diego), authors of the bill.
https://eaglerising.com/47784/decriminalized-no-longer-a-felony-to-knowingly-expose-others-to-hiv-in-ca-including-blood-banks/
It’s the sewers. Insufficient rainfall to wash out the contents.
Sure it is Anthony, keep believing the lies. The truth is difficult for some brainwashed like you.
Communist Cesspools
This is what I keep trying to tell people, the Communist Anti-American Democrats are breeding cesspool in every city and state they control. This is what you get with open borders.
I was talking with a guy who lives in San Francisco who said they are destroying his city too. They let in so many illegal aliens their streets are full of them. There is no place you can avoid them. They even camp on the courthouse grounds.
They are very aggressive, in your face, begging for money and if you don’t give them enough they literally urinate on you. I saw a video where a women was telling about how the women where rubber boots even in the summer because of the contamination all over. She was telling about how one that confronted her urinated on her. She was on Hannity talking about it. Hannity told her it was assault, which it is true.
They defecate everywhere. He said it is so thick on the stairways and escalators that the city has to come out once a month and water blast it off. He said it sets up like cement and it stinks everywhere like an outhouse. Of course that sends feces flying every where. THIS IS WHAT THE DEMOCRATS WILL BRING TO AMERICA WITH OPEN BORDERS!
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San Diego Begins Bleaching Streets To Contain Outbreak Of Hepatitis A –
The majority of those sickened by this viral infection outbreak have been homeless people.
A letter from San Diego County health officials stated that hepatitis A is being spread through contact with a “fecally contaminated environment” as well as person-to-person transmission.
A big part of the problem is an apparent lack of public restrooms in areas where the homeless population congregates.
Hepatitis A is a highly contagious viral infection, which can prove fatal.
http://freedomoutpost.com/san-diego-begins-bleaching-streets-contain-outbreak-hepatitis/
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See what I mean, the Communist Anti-American Democrats running NYC are allowing it there too. No one in their right mind should EVER elect a Democrat to any office. This is a health hazard that will spread diseases! The Democrats are building cesspools of 3rd world illegals, which citizens have to deal with.
New York City To Allow Public Urination, So Minorities Can…
The left-wingers who run New York City are about to make it 100% legal to urinate in public.
Why? Because many blacks and minorities have been fined or arrested for it. They would rather legalize this disgusting behavior than enforce basic rules of public sanitation.
http://thepoliticalinsider.com/40005-2/
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Here a whole street light collapses and nearly kills someone because of all the urine that corroded the lower portion of the pole.
Corroded By Urine, San Fransisco Light Pole C | The Daily Caller
http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/06/corroded-by-urine-san-fransisco-light-pole-collapses-nearly-killing-man/#ixzz3i2TZd9xH
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Hepatitis A is a highly contagious viral infection, which can prove fatal.
http://freedomoutpost.com/san-diego-begins-bleaching-streets-contain-outbreak-hepatitis/
Corroded By Urine, San Fransisco Light Pole C | The Daily Caller
http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/06/corroded-by-urine-san-fransisco-light-pole-collapses-nearly-killing-man/#ixzz3i2TZd9xH
That’s because San Francisco is full of queers.
And she called us Deplorable and to her demise, there were more of US than her “compliant sheep”.
Ageed……
remember, Hitlery said in the second to last debate that “she & Abe Lincoln were both two faced liars”. Even the “conservative” media missed it, they are FAKE conservatives. AKA: cons. demonrats in republican clothes. Paul Ryno is the chief. Bitch McComical is a fool.
Seek help Tim……you are filled with racist HATE and confusion that is going to kill you.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/46816121577c0a405db9114bbc5b7213e14070ee458480c95630707e07b8197a.jpg
Stop telling lies and the poor leadership is coming from you sorry ass liberals and the democrat communist cry baby party like you and stop watching cnn stupid.
PLEASE find a mirror, peer in to it and slowly say to yourself……”I am a MORON and can’t help myself” and then head back to your homeland Rican…….
You are the classic example of the ignoramuses which we are discussing here. The very symptom of our failed educational system. You are all twisted into a pretzel with your illogical thinking.
Troll alert!
Look everyone, a common snake that crawls on his belly and thinks he’s a king!
You have quite an imagination, you probably believe a snake spoke to a woman too, don’t you ? You claim to be telepathic too, you can read my thoughts. Pretty damn good for a bird brain or so you call yourself “jaybird”.
Get back in your hole snake!
Well come on in rat.
Perfectly said…its a dangerous path were going down.
It began with school systems buying into bussing. How did they think it would be good for inner city children? All they could see was all that lovely money. If they start teaching civics again they will have to teach the educators from the college professors to the teachers to the children because the professors are just as ignorant.
Fire them and hire new ones
The public schools were forced to bus by the 1965 Civil Rights Act and the Supreme Court. The Civil Rights Act gave LBJ card blanch to expand socialism in America with his “Great Society” efforts to eliminate poverty and social justice and launch the Federal governments control of our public education, from kindergarten through college. The left has used our schools as a vehicle to bring socialist ideals and socialism to America by revising history to demean our great and flawed history. Nikita Khrushchev said in 1960 ” We can not expect Americans to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving American small doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find they have communism……” Oh how true……..
WOW, you thought of everything………….except you forget the theory behind that was to break segregation to bring some equality of education to all.
You right wingers alway ran up to that blind spot which deprives you of seeing the issue as a whole.
For whatever reason you never view yourselves as part of the problem so it’s much easier to blame liberals for each and every ill in America.
All I can say is it’s OK you stay there remain in your happy stupor.
rome44,
What is missing is students who are able and willing to learn. That’s the “elephant in the room” that is always ignored. Better schools! Quality education! BULLSHIT. What’s lacking is quality kids and quality parents, and sadly, there is no solution for that.
That is not the case in my family. We are well aware the educational system is in trouble it’s not measuring up and it’s failing our students.
The other side of the coin is as you say true if parents don’t get involved in their children’s upbringing and education things go awry quickly. Teachers hands are tied disrespectful children can no longer be spanked or paddled so there are no consequences for bad behavior.
Rome, Niknar…. it seems impossible to have a reasonable conversation in these ‘Think-Tank Propaganda’ sites. They’re here to misdirect and continue the dumbing down of our FOX (Faux) population. Corporations want to get government out of their way completely, except for waging wars on their behalf… it’s been going on for decades. But, most in this ‘room’ blame ‘Libs’ for all their perceived problems… as the 1 percenters get these fools to do their dirty work. They’re being duped… and just don’t know it. YOU can learn in these places, but mostly it’s just proof that you can fool some of the people ALL THE TIME.
I don’t see it quite like you. But I’m glad to see you & Niknar in here and we need more to counter these out of control people.
I have been visiting right wing sites for yrs. I push back on their absurdities and I get pilloried sometimes by 4-6 right wingers. These people are so far gone they attack me in the most vile ways but I’m not to be deterred I don’t take their vulgarity personally. I do it with the hope that they might at least give some thought examine what they’ve come to believe. They have been taught to hate the left, they believe it to be what ails America, which of course is ludicrous we have a two party system in gov. sometimes more democrats and sometimes more republicans but it’s never overwhelming to neither side so that means they all contribute to whether they create a solution or create a problem.
Stay in here these folks are off-kilter they need to hear from the other side.
There will never be a solution until Government is out of our lives. That is the problem that the Democraps created.
And there you have it! PRECISELY what the ‘ruling class’ corporatocracy wants you to think and believe. Keep doing their dirty work for them… which DOES NOT server your best interests… or mine. I find great irony with all these politicians who claim to want to rid us of ‘government’… as they work year after year… decade after decade with a 1% government salary, pension, healthcare… and LOTS of insider trading info to get rich on the side! (Top 50 Congressmen’s net worth ranges from 7.75 million to 315 million… in 2015!)
Come on Tony surely you know better than that.
Lets go back to the beginning, the Constitution & the Bill of Rights are a contract between the American people and its government. As long as there is a United States we will have a federal gov.
Maybe you are referring to something in particular but not conveying your message well.
Maybe your kids have gone to sh#t. Mine are doing great, thank you.
Bdog,
Sorry to hear that. Sorry for America, that is.
My kids are curious, inquisitive, free thinkers. They are well educated, worldly and understand we can still make the world a better place, even if It includes ignorant, angry asswipes like you. America is lucky to have us! It could use fewer people like you.
Dog,
“we can still make the world a better place”
Sure you can, but I just hadn’t known that you were planning on leaving. You won’t be remembered.
Awe…. I must have hurt the grouchy moron’s feelings.
Bdog,
awe |ô|
noun
a feeling of reverential respect mixed with fear or wonder: they gazed in awe at the small mountain of diamonds | the sight filled me with awe | his staff members are in awe of him.
You lack the skills and the intellect with which to respond to what he just said to you. He said nothing about leaving the country. That my friend is the crux of your problem “You won’t be remembered” what kind of answer is that ? It’s not even communicating or responding to his message.
Would you mind telling us your level of education and whether you’ve been instructed in Civics, Government or Social Studies ? I’m not being factitious I’m asking with sincerity because today most states don’t teach as mandatory on how our gov. works what they do teach is superficial. So most students leave high school not knowing about our gov. it’s very disconcerting. Blaming democrats is something I’m not buying, this situation has developed over a long period of time by many different people all across America. The issue here is not who caused it but how do we fix it ? Solutions is what is called for not hurling insults at each other.
rome44,
You’re a little slow, aren’t you? I was talking about leaving the PLANET. Anyway, that was another lapse of mine. As I’ve said too many times before, I’m trying to leave places like this behind for more productive endeavors. I say, “trying,” because it’s not that easy. I’m making significant progress, but I’m only human, and humans are a wretched species. Well, this time I really, really mean it. I’m going to leave it to others to continue the endless, silly, and senseless cat fights. Others can spend their days in these silly spats, but I have better things to do. Have you ever thought of how many HOURS a day you spend at places like this? A tragic waste of time, UNLESS you have nothing better to do, and I do. Oh, I just noticed your question. I’ll just say that I missed only ONE question on that 100 question Civics test, True, as I have already admitted, I guessed on several questions, but I didn’t think they were fair questions for a Civics test, anyway. Finally, I’ll just say that too many of you here are blaming too much on schools. That’s a cop-out. As an adult YOU are responsible for what you know. We forget MOST of what we were taught, anyway, so to maintain that knowledge, you have to constantly refresh and build upon what you were taught in school, If you don’t, you will be just another ignorant jerk that blames his ignorance on the schools he attended. No, the fault is yours. Even if you weren’t taught Civics when in school, you should’ve learned the essentials by living in and participating in our society. You should have been curious enough to fill in the blank spaces, You should have tried to better yourself. If you didn’t, don’t blame it on the schools. Schools get you started, but you must continue and build upon that foundation. Well, I’m being too damned repetitious, so I’ll stop here.
Don’t blame me for not making yourself clear. Again here I’m a bit confused on what you are trying to say over leaving. So, I’ll leave that one alone.
This right wing site was created for right wingers to spill their guts of hatred towards other Americans who are democrats & liberals, you treat us like we’re your enemies you defile, denigrate and call us by the most vile of names.
As a life long democrat from the working class I’m none of those things, my main interest in politics are the bread & butter issues that have an effect on me and my family and for that I’m vilified, makes no sense to me.
I do spend some time in here pushing back against your attacks but it’s not a full time job.
Hey dumbass, I don’t need a lecture from you about segregation and integration because I was there, saw and and experienced it for myself. I was in Junior High School in 1962 and went to segregated schools BEFORE the 1965 Civil Rights Act and there when the schools started to integrate. I”ve seen KKK rallies in the deep south, REAL brutal discrimination, blacks riding in the back of city buses, white and black water fountains, black men hung in the woods, or white college protesters that were found murdered by the Klan. As a teenager, I was all for integration and didn’t understand the discrimination against blacks or why they were called niggers. Cecil Sims, Willie Gooden and Fletcher Allen were black and three of my closest friends in high school from 63 thru 66. So I don’t need some know it all smart ass punk to tell me that I don’t understand the reason for the Civil Rights Act and integration. This discussion was not even about civil rights and bussing fool……it was about smart asses such as yourself that have been taught revisionist history and have grown up ignorant. Know what you are talking about next time before sticking your nose in to a subject that you know NOTHING about.
Good reply. Integration was to have everyone gets a better education.
They threw history in the TRASH. Just like they are trying to do again. History is important. We are supposed to learn through history. Only if we don’t know it, how can we learn from it
That’s right Becky, know your history or you’re doomed to repeat it.
Amen…..if we don’t remember and respect our history we are bound to repeat it. The very reason that the left is creating an alternative history and wants to remove all statues and symbols of our history and past. Out of sight, out of mind…..
That is not the work of the left that will be the black Americans who would rather not be reminded of slavery, the left does support the removal of the symbols of the confederacy and so should every decent American because this is not a left or right issue. It’s you who doesn’t understand what those symbols represent.
Another young mind of mush……….and oxygen thief.
Your adjectives only serve as a distraction to avoid addressing the real issue. Stay in your blind spot.
I agree! I am sick of these brats, these entitlement, infantile, brats who know nothing about the REAL AMERICA, our Founding Fathers, the LAW of the LAND, telling all of us we are heartless. I say, let all those kids from DACA go back to school, learn the REAL HISTORY OF THE U.S. come in the way my ancestors from Germany and Norway had to come in, speak the damn language, no more press one for English, because they sure don’t do that in Mexico! I’m sick of having to do CHARADES when trying to order or talk to those who refuse to speak the language. I love my neighbors, they are as sweet as they can be. They are Bosnian, and lots of Bosnians here in West Des Moines, BUT, they have lived her for over 17 years in America, and don’t speak a lick of English. They really are wonderful, but I love it when their kids come over, they speak both languages, so they translate for me! LOL But there is absolutely no reason that Latinos order us around, take our benefits, and then refuse to speak our language or become American citizens. Yes, some work, and they work hard, but just like the Mexicans I worked with when I was an office manager in a dental office they sent their money back home, or saved it so they could go back to Mexico, live high on the hog, and start a business. NOW YOU TELL ME how we benefit from this type of illegal, or even Latinos who aren’t willing to live in this land, work, and contribute to our society. It is ridiculous. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fde164a0cf4226820c16947ae26ce24fc570fbea9c31b74faf9fd5eebc61d20b.jpg
I was a Senior in high school, and I was a freshman in college when this was taking place and remember it well. That’s when some of the youth of America went to HELL and spit on all those men who fought in Viet Nam, including my boyfriend who was killed in that war. His sister, to this day, still cries over his death, he was only 20. Gutless wonders these damn big mouthed protesters. Spitting on our soldiers who didn’t have a say in where they went, but were dedicated to keeping our country safe. OH AND BTW, the DEMONCRAPS started the Viet Nam War, and NIXON, who told a lie, and treated like BO and KILLARY should have been, was the PRESIDENT WHO ENDED THE WAR. DID YOU KNOW THAT, you damn idiot liberal loons, who put all our lives in danger by following the Muslim/Communist/Arab traitor and the Whore of Islam! I honestly think these idiot liberals need to take a short test before they are allowed to vote. It is NOT fair for these idiot kids to vote and put all of us in danger, then get mad when we have had enough and elect, for the first time, a REAL LEADER, one who doens’t line their pocket by catering to the political cartel. Little brats, I’d like to spank them silly! I literally hate these people who tried to destroy the country we grew up in. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/81df70b0b36e9c0a29c03a164b70f1fe04b8515c80a3f9d92f3ee087d63f243b.png
You and I could have a long and compatible conversation because we have both lived through the nightmare of Vietnam and shared in the mixed emotions of anger and confusion of the time. It was both an electric time to be growing up as young adults but it was also very frightening to figure out what it all meant and how would it all turn out. I was a poor white boy in college in the south and could see right through the lies and scams that we were being fed by the media and the government at the time. Kennedy got us involved and then LBJ used Vietnam to expand the military industrial complex to fuel our economy while putting the poor and middle class young men at risk in the jungles and rise paddy’s. I had a friend killed over there and others that returned and told the truth about what was really happening on the ground. I literally hated LBJ and what he was doing to us for the sake of Dow Chemicals profits. And then Nixon came along and strung the war along to stay in office and then used it to be re-elected by pulling McGovern’s platform out from under him 30 days before the election. I still have very vivid memories of the time. What is really unfortunate is that the 60’s leftist and radicals ended up being teachers and professors in our colleges and universities and used “higher” education to indoctrinate generations with anti- American and Marxist/Socialist ideology that has divided and polarized our country. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign was not party politics as usual but his intention, as he said, to “fundamentally change America” by politicizing and weaponizing the Federal government to use against his political opponents and to overthrow our free market, capitalist, Constitutional Republic and replace it with an oppressive Democratic Socialist welfare state. And he almost succeeded BUT didn’t anticipate Trump winning the election and the revolution from the right. The fight is FAR from over for control of our country and its future. It is said that if we don’t remember and respect our past and history we are bound to repeat it and it appears that in the current climate we may be on our way to repeating the insanity of the 60’s. Like I said…..you and I could have a LONG discussion. We MUST support our President and take at least eight more Democrat Senate seats in 2018 and primary the RINO’s that are running for re-election. I like your poster…..and I know which restroom to use, no confusion there.
AJT I would rather go back to the days when RESPECT was earned not given. A time when people were on the same playing field and nobody had more then someone else. When people worked hard to build our country and were proud to be an American. That is all gone by the way side. The Democrats destroyed our country by taking away our rights to live and raise our families the way we saw fit not the government or some cry baby. There is no more the Majority Rules in this country as that is what the Democraps have done. Bring RESPECT back to America and we will not have all the problems we face today.
Amen….everyone should be given personal RESPECT and respect MUST be shown to all those in authority ln our lives, especially those that risk their lives to serve us. It is a foolish person that would be uncooperative and disrespectful to a man or woman with a badge, side arm and the authority of our community. They can make our lives miserable otherwise.
I agree with most of what you said . The Korean war did a lot of damage prior to Nam . Politicians should never be in control of a war or as they called it ,police action . The other thing is the Left wing Educators were already in place by the 60s with their strong Union .
My uncle fought in Korea and it WAS a war that was never officially declared, but was a bloody and brutal war never the less. Ironically a truce was agreed to, but there has never been a peace treaty signed with the North that has left the region hot for 54 years. There were many, many mistakes made in Korean, which turned out to be a precursor to our unwise involvement in Southeast Asia and Vietnam. Vietnam was a dirty ugly war that should have never been fought….the loss of 58,000 young men. What a tragedy. The left wing progressive socialist have been around since WWI and came to the forefront during the depression and FDR’s “New Deal” socialist programs, so I agree with you that the roots of progressivism were already in our universities and colleges by the 60’s. My generation of boomers put the movement on steroids,
I sympathize with your anger and I feel for all those young men who lost their lives there. But I believe some of it is misplaced, I’m a Viet Nam era Veteran I remember the spitting well but this was done by a wide cross section of Americans who due to stories we all read in the newspapers & TV about the atrocities by our military in the killing of civilians, Mai Lai comes to mind. By that time Americans were sick of that war.
I also recall university students all across America protesting the war some died here too, i.e. Kent State where the national Guard fired into protesters.
It’s your prerogative as to where to place blame for starting it but no doubt it was a needless war, I too lost my best buddy in VN, I visit the Viet Nam Memorial to see his name there, he was 24 yrs. old.
Not only did Nixon lied but he kept the war going. You lose me at BO & Killary (who did Hillary kill) what do they have to do with VN ?
You lose me completely with your vulgar epitaphs I see no one following communists or Muslims and who is the whore of Islam ? Am I supposed to know that already or is it a derogatory name you placed in someone ? I just don’t know.
I ask you these questions because I’m a democrat and somewhat liberal and I’m no loon, I’m not out destroying anything.
You do mention protesters but what protesters there are many out protesting various causes which ones are you addressing?
Voting is the right of every American and we shouldn’t eliminate voting because you don’t like the results.
Clearly you’re happy over your vote as you should be, but we are a diverse nation we are Americans of different political stripes, somebody is always unhappy but we move on.
I don’t agree any one is destroying our country protesting is as American as apple pie. Tomorrow the sun will rise as it always does. Get over it.
You sure do a lot of supposition. You harangued with Nancy about forced bussing and how this gave LBJ card blanche to implement socialism.
If you were there as a witness than you should have stated the reasons for it instead of taking off on a tangent over the left’s control of the educational system. You do know we have a two party system (mostly) so I’d say both party’s have contributed equally to forming the educational system to what it is today.
It’s equally frustrating for me to have to listen to you people on the right bitching and complaining about the left, placing blame on liberals for what ills our nation. You behave as if you are w/o fault, that is plain foolishness.
I didn’t say you didn’t know the history of the civil rights movement I said you neglected to mention it.
You don’t know me how can you even presume to know the education I received, much less know that I’m ignorant.
You are not the first wing nut I’ve encountered I’ve been pushing back at your false preconceived notions for yrs. If there is one I’ve learned from you is that all of you sound the same as if you read out of a playbook. Your comments I’ve heard before from years ago.
Our republic is not 100% pure it has elements of other ideologies too, i. e. Social Security just what do you think it is ? Just because it’s a social program will you refusing it when you retire if you haven’t done so already.
Your claim of the left embracing communism is outrageous it’s an insult. If anything McCarthyism aka The Second Red Scare was a blemish on our nation this out of control jerk accused people of subversion & treason w/o a shred of evidence he destroyed many peoples careers and employment and even jailed others. The judicial courts reversed many of his cases because he acted outside the Constitution.
That is who you admire, it reveals to me the type of person that you are. This is historically accurate there are no revisions here. So next time you want to accuse me of ignorance take a long hard look at yourself first.
Once again your blathering, rambling, babble just proves my point and the point made in the title of the article “We Know Nothing About Civics” and that you are indeed a prime example. You are just looking for an argument and I’m not going to give you one…..you are brainless. Why not go chase cars in traffic……
You don’t know what your point is much less presume to know mine. I said nothing inaccurate. I know what the subject matter is, your problem is you want everyone to believe the left is responsible for civics not being taught to the young in school.
The school curriculums have changed over the yrs. and the study of gov. civics and social studies are no longer required in many states true the problem with you is you want to place all the blame on democrats, that is just nuts and misleading when you tell it.
It upsets you that you’ve been taken to task and you can’t measure up. So far you’ve said many inaccurate things and you don’t like being confronted.
You didn’t answer my question either over SS I said it’s a socialist program will you be refusing it because it offends your hard held ideology ? No of course you won’t answer because it will expose your hypocrisy.
If you want to prove me of blathering and so forth PROVE IT just hurling insults will not make your case you have to PROVE IT first.
Your ignorance speaks volumes and is unmistakable……..
What’s your point
You can’t replace History. Besides that is how the world was back then. The hole truth is not told or taught in Public Schools. If the truth was told about slavery perhaps the blacks would understand. Oh that’s right they don’t want to know, it’s easier to Make it Whitey’s fault.
Don’t kid yourself they know their history quite well. Being a slave is something they’d never forget one generation will pass that history on to the next generation.
It’s not that they don’t want to know that would be missing the point, it’s the symbolism they don’t want to see.
I’m not a black person and I understand their point why can’t you ?
How has it worked out?
I haven’t the foggiest idea.
Ignorance of God and country.
Have you noticed seeing lately a lot of quotes by people like Lenin & Krushchev on the internet (such as Durdin here)? People brought up in American school systems are unlikely to know their quotes, but people schooled in the Soviet system had to memorize them.
It’s part of the widespread Russian effort to sow discord in the US, & I think we need to be alert for it & call it out when we see it.
They are total idiots they make this stuff up as they write & think at the same time. They make outrageous charges against people w/o a scintilla of truth. Truth to them is a like a road to be paved over.
We had a cold war with the Soviet Union, the SU exists no more and we are still here stronger than ever.
I don’t believe these alarmists because Russia wants to be like us Capitalists.
Before Obama we didn’t have this level of discord but as soon as Obama was elected all these conspiracy theorists left Area 51 in NV. to create a frontal attack on democrats yelling their credo; “I want my country back”, they went nuts in their paranoia, and they still can’t get over it even though they see our nation is still here intact, prospering, why even my stock portfolio is growing to my delight.
The Carnegie-Soviet Education Agreement is still in effect, I think. Have not looked it up for awhile.
What is that ?
Well you can thank the darling of the republican party for that one Ronald Reagan signed it.
I just threw it out there because not many people have heard about it and because posters were discussing education and just to show what happens when people are not paying attention to what goes on.
I just have one question: how old are you?
Daniel, I always ask that when a person is a liberal. They are usually under the age of 35.
I’m much older but it illustrates for me that you have a gross misconception of liberals. I’m in here for the sole purpose of seeking answers to my questions; why is our populace so politically divided, we no longer respect each other we treat each other as toxic. Why are sites such as this one set up for ? I formed my own answer but I’d rather hear from you.
I am of a firm belief that before political ideology we are Americans and that we should respect our differences.
It’s true and sad there are young liberals out there rioting and destroying property but I’d like to believe these are hooligans out to create mischief. I believe in respecting others beliefs even though I don’t agree with conservative ideology.
I agree with you. We need to try to bridge the gaps, stop making phony scapegoats & unite as Americans.
It helps to first know that there are Russians who troll sites like this & try to incite extremist reactions to further divide us. We need to beware of them, try to identify them & call them out when we’re pretty sure that’s who they are. Some are pretty easy to identify, but others are really slick & have a strong command of both English & American history (which they cleverly distort in order to conform to their talking points). They can be easily confused for right-wing Americans who similarly have a command of the facts, which they manipulate to further their agenda. To be honest, I’m not sure which category Durdin is in, because he is pretty slick, but I’m guessing he’s Russian.
It is also handy to know, that well before any Russians came to further sow dissension, there was already a well-established corporatist collaboration among multinational corporations, the Republican Party, conservative think tanks & right-wing media to promulgate propaganda of distortion, deceit, “fake news” & outright lies in order to pit their base against that of the left while they furthered their corporatist agenda & surreptitiously entrenched their control over the government, economy, media & society. The Russians saw how well this worked in dividing America, so they decided to send agents to help this along. I think they’ve all succeeded beyond their wildest dreams, unfortunately. Lack of a good education among Americans, particularly in critical thinking, but also in history & civics, is partly to blame for the vulnerability of Americans (particularly on the right) for such brainwashing.
Brother I couldn’t agree with you more, you said it in a way I could not have measured up.
These people are so busy denigrating Obama and Hillary they have taken the eye off the ball. But Obama knew thus his reason for expelling 35 Russians out of U.S.
Trump and his cohorts have been successful at indoctrinating some Americans that the free press (TV media) report nothing but “fake news and the enemy of the people, the right gobbled it up, today we hear it from every corner of the nation. When some Americans buy into this they are undermining a cornerstone of our republic, being free speech, not realizing that w/o it we leave ourselves open to be taken over by despots and you are right it’s attributable to poor education and in lieu they jump on anyones band wagon whom they believe is taking them to some unknown utopia.
Well said! They call themselves “patriots” yet what they’re doing is very unpatriotic & un-American, although most probably don’t realize it.
We are in danger of dividing as a nation. We need to try our best to unite behind the democratic principles that made the USA the great country it is in danger of ceasing to be.
Thank Obozo and the Democraps for that one Rome.
I believe it was the election of Obama and not Obama himself. Face it many white Americans were so unsettled by the prospect of having a black man in the white house. People came up with scenarios such as he was not American, even Trump joined the fray telling America he was sending his own investigative team to Hawaii to prove Obama was not born there. Hawaii’s governor went public to state Obama was Hawaiian born. Obama too produced his long form BC. He has been accused of being Muslim and for those who don’t know I will cite for you the clause in the Constitution that should clear everyones mind concerning religion; Art. 6 Sec. 3 in part says: “but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States”.
I find it shameful that the same people who were denying his right to be president are using the Constitution as a tool against him.
I recall senator McCain at a rally being interrupted by a woman declaring Obama was not American and that he was a Muslim and that she wanted her country back. To me at least I saw this as masked racism. And undoubtedly many white Americans feel that way. It’s a deep seeded hatred but they grew up that way and will die that way, too.
You also accuse democrats, of what you don’t say, I don’t want to speculate, so I’ll leave that one alone until you clarify yourself.
What an ignorant stereotype
Old enough to have lived through both republic admin. and democrat admin. Why ?
rome44 – And just what has the Democratic party done for the blacks during all this time? What did Obama do for the blacks – other than rile them up with his slavery rhetoric? He didn’t actually do anything for them. But he sure came out of that White House pretty rich. How did he do that, I wonder. So, yes, tell me what the Democrat, the great libs, have done for the black people while they have been in power, huh?
Well, I know Black people that HATE OBAMA because he did nothing except create division between Black and Whites. Set us back to before Civil Rights, erased all that MLK did!
I’m shocked that you know “Black People”…. By the way, hate crimes against ‘black people’ and the re-emergence of Neo-Nazis, White Supremacists and the KKK have ALL come under ‘Orange 45’s’ watch. I don’t suppose that’s what you’ve been told… but if you actually ‘WAKE UP’… you might see it!
I will say LBJ signed the Civil Rights Amendment. With Obama I don’t believe there is a response to something so outrageous “rile them up with his slavery rhetoric” I don’t know what that means. Obama received lots of criticism from blacks because he wouldn’t address issues particular to them. But he is the president of the entire nation not of a group.
As for Dems, what have they done for blacks, as a whole I don’t know, I could ask you the same thing what have republicans done for them?
You are overlooking the fact that the KKK was founded by Democrats, and the Jim Crow Laws were written by Democrats. The Republicans and the Party of Lincoln freed the slaves. This is what liberals teach, this is not the true history, the real history of the U.S. Every single Black man who ran for Congress after the Civil War was a Republican. Better go back to school and learn the REAL HISTORY of the U.S., not the one taught after the liberal loons and Communist took over the Demoncrappy Party. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/46db2ca0d2c7f63a6088d7c9c9da90e250500a479f3c671bd43e72f1f8380910.jpg
I’m not overlooking anything why would you even come to such a conclusion ? I know the history of the southern democrats from those times. I personally was never taught different, I’ve always known that, what gets me is; why do you show up now accusing me of being ignorant of our history? Let me ask you a question; how many liberals have you asked this question that have answered you otherwise ?
Using hyperbolic comments such as democrats being loons & communists will not make them factual, it’s just an opinion you are entitled to it but you wouldn’t be correct.
This was all before the ’60s & the passage of the Civil Rights Act under LBJ, whereby virtually all the southern Democrats, who were the racist ones, switched to the Republican Party (which is why the South is solidly Republican now when it used to be solidly Democrat).
Republicans should be proud of their great record on abolition in the 19th Century, but they have little to show on civil rights since the ’70s.
There has become 1 overriding concern for the Republican Party since the ’70s & especially the ’80s: that is welfare for the rich & corporations: lower taxes for the rich & corporations, reduced regulations for big business, tax loopholes & tax havens for the rich & corporations, & corporate control over the government, media, economy & society, which they’ve achieved by now. All other concerns take a backseat or (more often) disposed of. That is why civil rights used to be a concern of many Republicans, but no more. Environmentalism & conservation used to be a cause for many Republicans, but no more. Fiscal conservatism used to be a major concern for most Republicans, but lower taxes for the superrich & multinational corporations always take priority these days.
You can’t teach stupid as they just to lazy to learn, when they can cry and get everything for free
Ever heard the expression “There is no free lunch”? I don’t know who they is, perhaps you might want to elaborate on who you are referring to.
AJT Sure Rome I would be happy to elaborate on who THEY are: They are anyone human in this country that is lazy you want to make it a black and white issues don’t you? I don’t care what race you are, just that the black have the market cornered, everyone in America have the tools in front of them to make a good life for themselves and if they so choose a family. Those who choose to take the past path by being crooks, murders, drug dealers, corrupt politicians, and just plain low lives that is their choice. I hope this will help you understand who they are rome.
I personally don’t want to make it anything I don’t like to guess either but you do sound accusatory by saying I want to make it a black and white issue when I said nothing of the kind but you do though by saying; “the blacks have the market cornered”.
I don’t know do they ? I can only answer from my experiences in my line of work there are people of different races all performing the same tasks so I can say unequivocally all these people work they have families to feed children that go to school some own homes others in the process.
I don’t obsess over who are the derelicts or who is out committing crimes we pay (through taxes) for law enforcement.
No one individual has a wand to wave to make all these people go away. Poor people are a fact of life for whatever reasons, to quote Jesus “The poor will always be with us”.
Yes, like so many other things the government has screwed up, like the VA, DOJ, OPM, Medicare and currently Obama Care. Government needs to get out of education so the schools can get back to basics, like Civics and Shop classes, along with basic Math and science classes.
Amen…..each successive Democrat president since FDR and his “New Deal” have expanded the reach of government in to our lives and gradually with socialist programs that have made Americans more and more reliant on “Big Brother”(Orwell’s “1984). Barack Obama clearly made his intentions known by declaring he was going to “fundamentally change America” as he went about politicizing and weaponizing nearly every Federal agency in government, ie NSA, CIA, FBI. DOJ, AG, State Department, IRS, EPA, NLRB to use as weapons against his opponents. The 2008 election was not just party politics as usual BUT Obama’s effort to overthrow our free market, capitalist, Constitutional Republic and replace it with an oppressive Democratic Socialist welfare state…….and he came damn close to meeting his objective.
This is pure nonsense, what alternate universe do you live in ? Obama never said any such thing. The combining of federal agencies and dept.s NSA. CIA & FBI (17 In all) occurred in 2002 Obama’s first term started in 2008. So much for your foolishness.
Obama overthrew nothing, when he took office our economy was in a death spiral he interceded to save the banks and financial institutions of Wall St. along with GM which was about to file for bankruptcy.
You are a very poorly informed individual with no idea what you’re saying. I would suggest that you bring yourself up to speed before posting out in public where people that do know view you as an ignorant person.
YOU are proving the title of this article fool, “New Poll Shows We Know Nothing About Civics”……You fool I have forgotten FAR more than you know and it seems that you have a comprehension problems understanding the points that I made. Who said anything about combining agencies? Do you understand the terms politicizing and weaponizing? Barack Obama was the most lawless and corrupt president in American history. As I said YOU have proven the very title of this discussion and exposed your ignorance.
That is your opinion and I don’t agree with you. Many people are illiterate on civics but not all. That you have forgotten more than I’ll ever know appears rather absurd to me you have no idea who I am.
You did say Obama politicized & weaponized all federal agencies and I said Homeland Security was created during the Bush Admin. that is what I thought you meant. I haven’t the foggiest idea what you mean by your words.
Suffice for me to say I haven’t an inkling what it even means. Perhaps if you would elaborate how Obama did this and the effects or impact it had on our nation.
Cussing me and insulting me does not bolster your argument any but proof does.
The only thing, that today’s College student knows well, is how to whine,demonstrate with understanding that you can not legally destroy property, and attack people who you dis-agree with by calling them Facists and run and hide in their safe space. If parents would insists on them actually getting and education that translates into a useful job, they would be to busy studying to demonstrate at the drop of a hat. We do agree on one thing though, you don’t agree with the majority of the people who have made posts, because it does not fit into your agenda as an obvious Left wing Liberal!!
Is it possible for you to comprehend this; your description of college age youth is not representative of the entire left. I can only speak for myself I’m an adult and a democrat have been all my adult life but not for the reasons you right wingers believe. Every description you use does not describe me. Of course I don’t agree with the people in here they say things that appear absurd to me. I’m American in every way I’m a veteran of the VN era and the cold war we fought communism, today we have these lunatics accusing me of having marxist aspirations this is totally nuts and offensive I put my life on the line for the country I love. And now after all this time here come these foul mouth sob’s talking crap.
Niknar, if you believe that O’bama deserves any credit for Trumps success, you are truly delusional. O’bama, is nothing less, than the worst President in American History. His record/Legacy will reflect that his entire term(2) was riddled with scandal after scandal. In fact, the truth that can be attributed to that POS is that he in fact did effect fundamental change in America and all it was bad. Go back into your safe space, Please!!
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Wow! You are thoroughly brainwashed by right-wing propaganda. As a matter of fact, Obama was the least afflicted with scandal of any president in modern history. Trump surpassed him after only a month in office.
Keep drinking the coolaid, you are so far gone it can no longer hurt, as the last brain cell you had just died. As far as scandal. so far everything the left has attempted has been dis-proven. In fact, evidence has just emerged from Muller that O’bama’s Cabinet and possibly O’bama himself was the ones in collusion with the Russians. That is just the most recent, however their are many more but why waste my time, as I stated earlier you are in complete denial and have not the capacity to comprehend. Remember, keep drinking that cool-aid.
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You get your “news” from the extreme right-wing propaganda machine, with Russian assistance, that denies, distracts, distorts, deceives & disseminates fake news & outright lies.
rome44, Instead of spouting Democratic Talking Points I have a word for you ” Research” you really need to try it. Enough said!
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I never said anything of the kind but even so just what are Trumps successes would you please enlighten me, because as far as I know Trump has had the congress and the senate all republican, they control the gov. and they’ve accomplished absolutely NOTHING, ZERO, NADA, ZILCH how in tarnations are we the delusional ones ??????
I truly believe posterity will view Obama’s presidency in a positive light and his tenure is free of scandal so what you’re saying is not true. He made no fundamental changes to our nation, you are a person out leveling unsubstantiated charges with nothing to back it up with. I can tell you this; he walked into the oval office when our economy was in a death spiral he turned that around and w/o delving in too deep I’ll say this to you, unemployment was around 11-12% the DOW dropped below 7,000 when he left office unemployment went down to about 5% and the DOW was hovering around 19,000. These are good indicators that prove how wrong you really are.
And you’d be wrong too, I don’t seek save spaces I’m exactly where I need to be confronting you and your absurdities. When you skew the truth I will confront you.
As an added note: I don’t know where you get these ideas floating around in your head that democrats and or liberals are all stupid living in La-La land but I am curious how do you get to this point. All this business about marxist media somebody devised this propaganda against the left someone pounded into your head that we are delusional you call us by all kinds of derogatory names. I mean somebody indoctrinated you into believing all this junk. Is it FOX, is it Limbaugh they are good at this kind of stuff or maybe the outrageous Savage, you just don’t become radicalized with so much hatred against other Americans all by yourself you’d have had to have help from someone ? Just curious.
@ rome44, nothing is absolute, but if one is to judge based on evidence, the conclusion would be exactly what you deny!! All one has to do, is watch the riots and destruction that Antifa engage in and yet the Democrats defend them. The president condemned the KKK and the Antifa and the main stream press and Democrats are up in arms because he condemned all who participated in the riots. So no, in a word, by and large one has to judge by the body of evidence and there fore the statement about Left leaning Liberals is entirely correct. However, I thank you for your service, as I too served from 1970 to 1992, and was a Democrat until they became (Opinion) a Socialist Party.
I never used the word absolute, that’s you. What did I deny ? I addressed some ones concern on todays youth which you labeled “Antifa” I don’t approve in the destruction of property.
I’m a firm believer in what someone said long ago, “I may not agree with what you say but I’ll defend your right to say it” that sums me up in a nut shell.
I haven’t heard of any democrats defending the actions of these hooligans. I don’t like Ann Coulter nor what she represents, hers are not my values but I would never deny her the right to speak. The right of free speech is in the 1st. Amendment, end of story.
It took Trump sometime after the events to come out publicly to denounce the KKK and the white supremacists only to turn around 2 days later to blame both sides. I don’t agree with what he said, the marchers went out against hate speech. There is simply no place in this country for hate mongers and people are outraged we have had enough of the KKK & white supremacists. We need to leave this behind and move forward for a much better country to all of us to live in.
I don’t have to know who you are to realize that you don’t know what you are talking about. Your words speak volumes as to just how uninformed and uneducated that you are
No sir that I believe to be YOU. You make reckless and senseless comments about events of which you are not familiar with or clueless. You are letting your biases cloud your judgments as you prove with your comments. Many of the things you say are inaccurate and I’m here to let you know, which is why you are so irate and falsely accuse me of being uninformed and educated. If that was the case I would not respond to you, but irrespective of what you think about me your absurdities do need to be challenged because your head is confused, the events you describe are just not factual.
In order to “realize” something you have to be rational to begin with, that leaves you out.
By now you should have grasped the many points where you’ve been shown to be in error and your responses have been to simply insult.
That is what a person does when not skilled at debating and allows anger to take over, which clearly is what is happening with you. You are what is known as a one trick pony. You’d rather counter me with being uninformed and uneducated than to address the points I made. Such is the life of a right winger always right but doesn’t know how.
What the HELL do you think you are giving? YOUR OPINION, nothing you said has been true, just left winged propaganda from all the Marxist Media! You all march to the same Communist Drummer. You are completely delusional. What George has said is the truth. We have lived in this country for 7 decades and seen the best of times! The Obama era was the abosolute worst of times, we nearly lost our country to Muslims and Communist. NO THANK YOU. Here’s something to think about. Communism has enslaved and murdered millions of people, much more than the South every enslaved and killed, yet you loons are for one and against the other, while Conservatives are against both. Do you honestly believe that allowing Killary and BO to lead our country with the Muslim Brotherhood is going to be good for you? HELL NO! They will continue to live like the dicatators they are, while the rest of us live like serfs. You have no idea what you wish for, count your blessings the Whore of Islam lost, even with a rigged election and 5 million illegal votes, that bitch lost. She is despised, and is the most evil woman in the world. Then you idiots say Trump didn’t win the popular vote, guess what, he won both, but Billy Clinton won just by Electoral College, no onwe bitched then did they? Of course not, thats the hypocrisy of the left. But then again, you probably weren’t born during Billy’s time. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/94dcc255b2b0c824018821009199db6428f49df5ae4f65a59592d03ec20bd498.png
You are completely out of your mind. You are suffering from a severe case of psychosis and delusions.
I adhere to the principles of our FF’s what is all this garbage about marxist media ? I can’t even begin to put that into context and don’t want to either.
Obama did not create the excesses of the financiers with their reckless investments starting with housing lending funds for mortgages to people who couldn’t afford them in the first place. That is the result of deregulation it allowed banks to make risky loans. We have been here before with the Savings & Loans crisis of the 80’s & 90’s. It just behooves me how people like you attribute these failures to Obama who wasn’t even part of the problem.
This is about all I want to respond to a person who has proven himself irrational with ravings of a lunatic.
Yes, and when he left office our economy was stagnate, and he is the only president in modern times to not have achieved a 3% GDP during his time in office. Food stamp program ballooned out of control, National Deficit more than doubled, instead of creating jobs, he is responsible for factories closing due to regulations and moved out of country…ect.. Yeah, tell me just how great that POS was.
Exactly, but liberals don’t use the sense God gave a goose, so facts scare them, they would rather listen to the Marxist Media and Soros propaganda sites. I am sick of these people who honestly don’t know how this country is run, don’t know one damn thing about the Constitution either. If they cared about the Law of the land, they would have allowed President Trump to have his Inauguration Day, like all of us who had to bite the bit and let the Arab/Muslim/Communist have his. “Peaceful Transistion of Power, check it out, it’s in the Constitution. How did we protest? Certainly not by destroying everyone’s property, out yelling Conservative speakers, burning cars, blocking interstate exits and entrances so emergency vehicles couldn’t get through with critical patients needing emergency care to save their lives. I was also an EMT in my earlier years in Denver, trust me, my paramedic would have gotten through the crazy bunch of radicals to save a life, and if he had to keep going, he would have and we would have applauded him! So, you liberals are so delusional, and out of touch with the REAL AMERICA and what the law is, a country founded on Christian/Judeo principals, you would rather have us in oppression than freedom. Well, guess what liberals, the vast majority spoke on Nov. 8th, we got our country back, we don’t want Communism, Islamic invasion, we honor GOD, FAMILY and COUNTRY first and foremost. Go to Cuba, they would love you!
Thanks for the laugh. That rant was so stupid and delusional, full of fear and blind patriotism with no substance, I wouldn’t know where to begin. But then… it would be pointless to try. Hoping the light goes on for you someday. Good luck!
To that I say; the goose has more sense than you then. You assume too much making you intoxicated with your own rhetoric.
Just what the hell is a marxist media ? I personally have never heard Mr. Soros speak, what gives you the right to accuse me of following what these people say or if they even exist.
FYI, I listen (when I can) to all TV media I would not be able to pick out a marxist media, they all cover the same news for the most part, can you tell me as to how I would recognize a marxist news channel or newspaper. I can tell you for sure I don’t hear communist propaganda or what Mr. Soros says, where does one even find the man. Yours is a dumb bomb landing in the middle of nowhere.
What are you even saying about the Constitution? Am I to believe only the right wing political party understands it and no one else does ? What does the inauguration of Trump have anything to do with the law of the land, how do these two even come together ? This is incoherent, it makes no sense. Trump had his inauguration no one denied him his day, true the turnout was no where nears Obama’s but whose fault is that, keep in mind he was elected by the electoral college and not by the popular vote of which Hillary received 3 million more votes. This continual repeating of Obama being a Arab/Muslim/Communist only diminishes your argument, and it serves to reveal you prejudices.
The matter on protesting since you didn’t put it into context how is one to respond to something so sporadic, you know, what when & where ?
In your next tirade I see you completely off the rails, just what do you see as the “REAL AMERICA” I have to ask because America is comprised of many different people with cultural traditions and of different political persuasions and as the Great Seal of the US and our currency which was adopted in 1776 says “E Pluribus Unum” from the many one. Could it be YOU who does not understand ? Furthermore, our nation was not founded on Christian/Judeo principles nothing could be further from the truth. Our founding fathers lived in the “Age of Enlightenment” free thinkers some of which were Diest’s and some I suspect were atheists but never said it publicly. But their actions say so.
To illustrate the point I ask you do this; find this words in the bible “We hold these Truths to be self evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator [ they are not referring to the Christian god ] with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness” etc, etc. You can either look for them or take my word they don’t exist because these principles come from the minds of these enlightened men. My question for you is; why don’t you know this already, why do you proceed in here printing nonsense, it’s you sir, who happens to be deficient in American history pretending to be lecturing us, you look very foolish to those of us who do know.
Our country was never gone it just changed hands that is all, and it was not the majority of people who voted Trump into office it was the electoral college. Our nation has never been in the hands of Communists nor Muslims no matter how many times you repeat that it will never become fact.
He was left a Great Recession by his predecessor (2nd recession in Bush’s term) that he adeptly kept from becoming a full-fledged depression, & record deficits that could only go higher according to the budget & economic situation he was bequeathed [as economists know well (but many laymen may not realize), the economy during the 1st year of any new presidential term is mainly influenced by the budget & economic decisions made during the last year of the previous administration (which is why our economy has been humming along during Trump’s 1st year)]. He diligently worked on the economy & guided 1 of the longest, steadiest (albeit slow due to the depth of the recession he had to deal with) recoveries in history.
Not true. Economies like ours take many years of recovery. When Obama left office unemployment was at around 5% from 11 to 12%. When he stepped into office the Dow drop below 7,000 when he left it was hovering around 19,000.
Your cause here is not to be objective but subjective, our economy was in a death spiral when Obama became pres. the causation was already in progress he had nothing to do with plants closing. We were losing tens of thousands of jobs.
The banks & financial institutions of Wall St. were going belly up in ’08 and GM was about to file for bankruptcy taking millions of jobs with it. Obama bailed them out but that is not all these institutions held the funds of institutional investors who in turn held the 401K’s and the like for millions of Americans retirement accounts which if allowed to go bankrupt would have wiped out individuals money they were depending on in retirement.
What we experienced was a recession many people lost their jobs so of course the food stamps increased that is what the program is designed for.
You claim he doubled the national debt, to that I say you seem like a babe lost in the woods no such thing occurred. It may have seemed that way because told the nation he was adding Bush’s two wars to the debt which of course mushroomed.
face it you hate the black man because nothing of what you say about him is accurate or true. Whether he was good or bad for our country will be left to posterity and not to you or me.
You aren’t the brightest bulb in the socket are you. You lack common sense just like all liberals. You listen to the Marxist Media, all the Soros propaganda sites, the Communist News Network, and you do not think for yourself. LOL, When Obama took office we were in debt because the last two years of the Bush term was controlled by a Democratic Congress. Now, do you remember in 2005 when the Republicans wanted Fanny Fae and Freddy Mac investigated? The Republicans knew there was something fishy about these two companies. BUT, Barny Frank said “OH NO!” “KUDOS to those two companies, they are doing a spectacular job!” Of course, Barney’s lover, now husband was CEO of one of those companies, remember how they failed, how we went under? That was the Demoncraps. Remember how the Demoncraps spent money like Drunken Sailors those last two years? America’s econmy spiraling into trillions more, then BO took over, and trillions more was added. You tell me, just one example, how many past Presidents do you know that went on vacation or on the golf course every time things got a little rough. Trump has yet to go on one, and he is not even accepting a salary. That’s how much he loves this country, and he has been able to start us on the track to being the greatest country in the world once again, despite you idiots constantly drumming up scandals that Trump had nothing to do with. BO and the first Drag Queen disrespected this country so much, they were such racist, they spent over a whopping one and a half BILLION on vacations. More than all other presidents put together. And you tell us some worthless propaganda how he helped this country when he added trillions to our debt. You aren’t dealing with those who listen to the Marxist Media. We can’t be brainwashed. We also have common sense, something you idiots completely lack.
You are about as stupid as stupid can get. Listen you dimwit I don’t have anything to do with anything marxist or communist I don’t listen to Soros either I didn’t even know he had a media. You are a total whack job and to think you have the gall to say I don’t think for myself. Compared to you my light may appear dim but yours is burned out.
We have been in debt for many yrs. irrespective of administrations and it has been accumulating steadily so to look at a particular slice limited to a certain time is not indicative of anything, well, only that it’s increasing.
How anybody can sit there and parse as to who spent what, where and when begs the question about your state of mind.
You are not being truthful with many of your comments those are not facts but your own creations.
Obama added Bush’s wars to the deficit that is the reason it increased but according to you Obama spent that money that is how outrageous you are. And Trump golfs a lot, his secretaries are flying around the country and the world on private jets on our dime so enough of your manure OK.
“You tell me, just one example, how many past Presidents do you know that went on vacation or on the golf course every time things got a little rough. Trump has yet to go on one.”
What alternative reality do you live in? Trump has been flying to his Mar a Lago mansion in Florida at taxpayers’ expense, playing golf each time, on an almost weekly basis, costing taxpayers millions of dollars each time. He has also been looting the treasury & changing our laws in order to direct even more money to corporate executives & billionaires like him.
You support a party whose nominee 4 times gained the presidency through fraud and/or collusion with a foreign adversary & subsequently governed extremely corruptly & against American interests, that is responsible for nearly all the recessions of the last half century & the vast majority of federal debt, & in nearly every way resembles the Nazis & other fascist parties & movements of the past.
You live in a world where up is down & left is right. Everything is exactly the opposite of what you claim it to be! You are totally brainwashed by the right-wing/Russian propaganda machine, & possess nothing remotely resembling common sense.
If you look at Durbin’s comments as someone who is not an American as he claims to be, but as a Russian masquerading as an American in order both to sow discord & to reinforce themes that both right-wing Americans & Russians share [anti-Muslim, pro-oligarchy, pro-authoritarianism, pro-oil & pro-gas (& therefore anti-environmentalist & climate denialist), antidemocratic (hence contrary to long-standing American principles)], then his comments begin to make sense.
You could very well be right It never crossed my mind. They are busy hacking into gov. and political party’s computers why not use political sites to spread their lies to create animosity between Americans.
I’ve never had anyone in here to answer a question I have for all of them; “How did you get this way do you have a playbook that you read out of”. I’ve been fighting back these pukes for yrs. and it’s the same repetitious rhetoric.
Our nation is not perfect but it’s better than anything out there, our political differences have always been contentious but we use the ballot box instead of bullets in the transfer of power. Some of these people are advocating the elimination of the democratic party according to them we are the cause of what is wrong with our country, of course it’s pure nonsense our country is just fine.
I will do some reflecting on your words you may on to something. Do you know who owns this site ?
The name of this site is “Restore American Glory” but I don’t know who exactly owns it. They clearly are part of the right-wing propaganda machine.
Anyway, I wasn’t thinking that this site was sending out trolls, although I suppose it’s possible. Rather I think most of the trolls are sent either by Russia, by industry or by right-wing “think tanks” or other organizations trying to indoctrinate people in favor of their extreme agenda, & these readers are extremely susceptible to these brainwashing attempts, as you obviously see in this echo chamber.
It sometimes is difficult to distinguish who is part of the propaganda machine & who is just a gullible believer, & which of the propagandists are American & which are foreign, mostly Russian. Some are easier to figure out than others. But almost everybody gives out certain clues.
The great nation that we once were is in serious jeopardy because of these divisive forces. It will take a lot of united effort to keep us from falling apart.
Obama “politicized and weaponized nearly every Federal agency in government, ie NSA, CIA, FBI, DOJ…” And then, “Barack Obama was the most lawless and corrupt president in American history.” REALLY? You read this propaganda, puff-piece, written by someone who doesn’t have the courage to sign his/her name, because he/she is a “Think-Tank-Tool” who’s job is to rev up and misinform fools like YOU, to blame “Liberals” for EVERYTHING you view as a problem. You wouldn’t know the problem if it shot you in your other foot.
THE BUSH/CHENEY ADMINISTRATION actually DID all those things you accused Obama of doing… by allowing and most likely participating in 9-11, then starting two illegal wars, spying on U.S. Citizens, hammering our civil liberties. But, just blame the ‘black guy’, right! http://www.american.edu/spa/news/presidential-power-since-sept11-09082016.cfm The ‘murder of almost 3000 on 9-11… along with all those killed, wounded and forever scarred from those wars, when we never, ever should have been there. Of course, this is way beyond your scope of comprehension because you miss the reality of how it all works… COMPLETELY. If ‘lawless & corrupt’ is murdering Americans, starting illegals wars and costing taxpayers trillions in debt while their friends profited in the billions from it… then that tag goes squarely on the criminals in the Bush Administration. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6bFNGLP2-I )
What does this have to do with the topic “We Know Nothing About Civics” You are just a leftist looking for an argument and an opportunity to spout revisionist history. Not going to waste my time……
“Not going to waste my time…” because you have no argument that holds up to logic, reason and reality. Calling me a “leftist” is a copout. I happen to be an Independent who has no loyalty to either party. My loyalty is to America and THE TRUTH. I didn’t specifically address the topic, but DID specifically address YOUR comments. I find it ironic that you’re part of the crowd that spouts Palin-isms like ‘Lame Stream Media’, but then buy in, hook, line and sinker what THE MEDIA told you to believe, despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary. And apparently, you’re way to lazy to search for the truth. Facts are facts. Correcting revisionist history, telling the truth and holding people accountable is what we should ALL be about. And… that’s called “Knowing Your Civics”… and your civic responsibility!
Do you remember the famous line from a “Few Good Men”…..” you can’t handle the truth…” Bdog and of course facts and statistics are completely foreign to your LEFTIST thinking. You wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped you in the face. Calling yourself an Independent is a cop out and a statement made by those that have commitment issues. To be “safe” you want to straddle the fence. Both party’s have very diametrically opposed ideologies, which shouldn’t make even a commitment phob come to some conclusions. Your babble tells me that you are very twisted and confused and the very reason that you claim to be an independent. Believe me I can tell by your response that I have forgotten more than you know Bdog. As I said before, I am not going to waste my time….
LOL… funny how your own words lay waste to everything YOU say. “I’m not going to waste my time…” Then, apparently… you waste your time! All your babble is classic projection. You might as well be addressing the mirror. Being an Independent is much more courageous than picking A or B, when neither is a viable alternative. I’m committed to transparency in government… Committed to ‘Truth’… Committed to restoring democracy and not supporting the ‘corporate controlled’, fascist government we have now.
“Both party’s have very diametrically opposed ideologies, which shouldn’t (should?) make even a commitment phob come to some conclusions.” I agree… diametrically opposed, but what they share is whitewashing the reality of how government works… how, with too few exceptions… they’re all beholden to their corporate donors and puppet-masters. The Koch’s (And Soros, perhaps) will say… for instance, ‘we will fund your campaign if you follow our agenda. If not, we will fund a candidate who will. Take the money or get out of the way.’
But, gosh… gee… YOU’RE SO SMART… and know so much more! And, true to your ‘affliction’ of arrogant stupidity, you’re too lazy to ferret out the actual ‘REALITY’ or ‘TRUTH’. And like Trump or anyone else who used the term, ‘BELIEVE ME’… when I hear it… I know a lie or a delusion filled rant is on the way. You get too much of your information from toxic filled, think-tank blogs like this, and completely miss the point and direction of where your energy and ire should be directed. I hope you figure it out, but until then… I AM NOT GOING TO WASTE MY TIME… Best of luck and …good riddens.
“Not going to waste your time” really ? I think you are up against an intelligent person who is posing a very compelling argument for which you have no answers for.
Its has been easy for you so far when you addressing others of similar minds where you gleefully cheer each other on.
It’s clear to me you are unprepared for a meaningful debate. If he is spouting a revisionist history point out with facts where he is wrong, just saying the words alone w/o any backing are just empty words.
Catch any cars yet………
Well, yes, as a matter of fact I caught two yesterday weird you should ask.
Excellent comment!
You might be found in the dictionary under “deluded”.
Independent, my yass – you’re a socialist.
Rambling, about both sides while only “attacking” the “right”.
YOU are as deluded as most demonRats, and you’d “fit” right in with them !
If I cared about your absurd and disjointed opinion, as you fail to address (or comprehend) the substance of my comments, I’d construct some prose I thought you might understand… But, I don’t care. Thanks for your effort, though!
John, are you that far gone ? Could it be you understood nothing of what the man is saying that you dismiss it as rambling and accuse him of being a socialist.
i’d like an answer to my question; We were attacked on 9/11 by 19 terrorists of which 17 were Saudis, Bush turns around and attacks Iraq than Afghanistan bulging the coffers of the war profiteers, what is it about these facts that you view as “deluded”? Why does using the word “demo rats” and accusing someone of being a socialist place your comments above the facts ? It’s against rational thinking, you are far from answering the man’s charges. I believe him right you are not up to the task, vulgarity will not do it for you.
Incidentally, you appear to be very much against socialism, right ? If you are in that category of Americans who have contributed to Social Security during your working yrs. will you be declining those funds when you retire ? It’s Socialism.
The PAST has lessons, yes.
Both parties, and a majority of politicians are terminally corrupt. Tell me, WHAT DOES IT DO TO CAST BLAME AFTER THE COW HAS LEFT THE BARN?
We aren’t getting the wasted lives and wealth back. Iraq was a mistake, and NOT nuking Afghanistan was a mistake. Ok?
Go FORWARD, try to minimize further erosion of America by passing term limits (cannot happen, unless States legislate the -# of times allowed on State ballots).
The problem is not all States will do …so those that don’t – keep their corrupt bastards & WILL have the upper hand in fund raising (businesses), and “political savvy” for passing their agenda (sneaky, dirty tricks).
Some idiots (demonRats), when they cannot defend their position , ALWAYS deflect and start up crap about something else (mostly untrue).
The demonRats are pushing their socialist agenda on the school aged children, and have been for more than 15 years.
BOTH parties sicken me, as do idiots crying about who did what to whom.
Yeah, I’m THAT far gone.
Get a grip, work to elect honest politicians that MIGHT be able to put “government” back on a leash.
I didn’t say he was better than you I said you didn’t answer the man and I believe you answered your own question “what does it do to cast blame after the cow has left the barn?. That is exactly what takes place on this right wing site.
I’m telling you both wars were unnecessary we have no business starting wars in the middle east or on any foreign soil for that matter.
Are you even aware of the consequences of nuking a nation FOR WHAT ? They did’t come here to attack us we took the war to them now you want to nuke them. That would result in the killing of hundreds of thousands of people, the world would condemn us for such a heinous act.
I agree we should have term limits for all politicians and we should get rid of Citizens United this piece of legislation has opened the flood gates for corporate money, remember the words of Mitt Romney “corporations are people” with the SC agreeing now corporate America can buy elections, we the ordinary citizens don’t have the money to compete against the plutocrats.
But then you turn around and come back to blame only democrats (not using your pejorative) how is that so ? Why only democrats, where are the republicans where do they fit in ? For 9 months now republicans have control of the 3 branches of gov. can you name one piece of major legislation, name just one that they have passed ?
Their motto of conservatism is low taxes and small gov. yea right when have they ever done it ? Well, the answer is NEVER. Right now Trumps secretaries are flying around the country on private jets wasting taxpayer money. These are the fiscal conservatives that you champion ? Give me a break.
Yeah, well : “know your enemies”
(” That is exactly what takes place on this right wing site”). So don’t bring up the wars again- mistakes were made.
Oh, you want to bring up wars : Vietnam. JFK got us involved, LBJ “opened the door” for 58,000 to be sacrificed for what ? Fighting Communism? demonRats are far worse : socialists.
I KNOW about Vietnam. The next POTUS, used us as pawns for political cover ! Pacify, Escalate, Pacify, Escalate – for the purpose of poll points !
Don’t lecture me about mu’ffin unjust wars.
He’s the one (as do you) bring up much of the past that we all disagree with.
…as far as “nukes” go , there are “tactical nukes” w/about a 3 week radiological life. Big boom – about 100 times the Moab, radiation life is very, very short.
Remember “tactical”, not total destruction of a whole city.
You really are so naive, probably only ” travelled the world” to resorts in “safe” places.
I somewhat agree with you, I believe every war vet should be issued a medical card whereas he can go into any hospital in America and be seen instead of waiting for a VA doctor. We need the DOJ and I don’t know what OPM is. All retirees need some form of medical care that is the reason we pay while working. Gov. is a necessary evil but we still need it.
I’m with you wholeheartedly on education seems the more access we have to information the less we know go figure ?
OPM is Office of Personnel Management. They had been told that their computer system had security problems and needed to be fixed. The management did nothing to follow-up and later someone Hacked into the system and took millions of employees personal information. Yes, but we need one that is run and worked by responsible, trustworthy people. The California DOJ keeps trying to slowly pick apart our 2nd Amendment rights, placing more and more restrictions on weapons and ammunition for the citizens here.
Seems nowadays many institutional computers are being hacked, Equifax being the latest victim. There will always be people who have the ability to brake through firewalls no matter how trustworthy workers are.
If CA is doing it for their state there must be a good reason for it as NYC does too. Firearms are used out in the streets by gangs and drug dealers I personally don’t care that they wipe each other out it’s the innocent that get caught in the cross fire that I”m concerned with. This happens so often that it stuns me when people ignore the carnage all they look at is gov. wants my gun. Many more thousands will lose their lives as long as gun laws don’t change. I will stop it here because this is a never ending argument.
You forgot stone-cutting and wheel-making.
That is also the time that the Educators Unions became powerful and contributed to the Democrat party to get the cushy contracts . The Biggest problems with Education is in Democrat controlled cities .
How it began is, indeed, important for many reasons. What has become more important is that it is stopped and that the error is never repeated. A fundamental test should be passed before a voter registration card is issued. You can’t get a driver’s license without passing a test…how can one be trusted to influence an entire nation’s welfare if you can’t chew gum and walk at the same time?
Even then I’d even endorse no voting for anyone that doesn’t pay taxes [e.g. payroll or property tax). One should not be allowed to cast votes to increase their “goodies” on another citizen’s dime.
What if you’re unemployed through no fault of your own during an election ? In the 2008 recession tens of thousands of workers lost their jobs and homes should they be punished because of their misfortune ? While I do agree with you many Americans are ignorant my daughter who works for the public school system does tell me kids are too busy studying for SAT’s and similar testing, it takes from the time they should be studying subjects like we did back in the 60’s. I believe this should be corrected instead of denying people their right to vote.
And unions helped unemployment, how??? They’ve been responsible for much of the problem And unions are the staunchest of Democrat election tools. They put Obama over the line…twice. Did unemployment get better under his regime? Over 90 million out of work? And a union endorsed Lyin’ King, making it steadily worse over eight years, instead of fixing it, telling us “this is the new normal”? Sorry. You still have cretins insisting his dismantling of this nation’s structure was the best thing since sliced bread.
My sister is also a teacher. SAT’s are NOT the problem in grade school. She has told me that she is not even being permitted to teach her kids basic skills and her “union rep” is as helpful as a bad rash. This, in a VERY large school system.
“Denying people the right to vote” is the wrong way to look at it. My analogy of requiring a test to get a driver’s license was more accurate. Think of it as “Personal responsibility”. Just because someone wants to do something that doesn’t guarantee that they should.
First of all unions don’t create jobs their function is to represent workers. I don’t know what problems you are referring to, you don’t say so I can’t answer.
Yes sir, the democrats are our allies, never in my forty yrs. as a union member has a republican candidate ever shown his face at any of our union halls requesting our support.
They don’t believe in workers rights they don’t approve of unions they see unions as a stumbling block to their business friends.
Obama stepped into the oval office at a time when our economy was in a downward spiral the nations banks & financial institutions were failing and GM about to file for bankruptcy. Businesses were either going out of business or plants closing and moving operations overseas, yes sir, we were hemorrhaging jobs. Obama didn’t create this situation and sure as hell didn’t make it worse, in fact he did turn the economy around just take a look at the labor statistics you will notice employment made a turn around. I don’t know what you mean when you say he made it worse that is simply not true and who dismantled our infrastructure. Who are the cretins you claim are insisting this is better than sliced bread. I’ve never heard that one before I can’t even put it into context.
The SAT’s I was referring to are for high school students in preparation to continue their higher education. As I said before unions don’t dictate curriculum they only represent their members in legal matters according to contract and bargain for their wages.
For what and how curriculums are instituted you have to look at school boards, districts and up the line to state legislators and finally to the dept. of Education.
Voting is the right of all US citizens period.
Thank you for proving that willful ignorance cannot be addressed through reason or facts.
As long as they ARE U.S. citizens.
It is hard to get rid of a Union Teacher that has done something wrong.
May be but these hearings and their resolutions are mostly handled in secrecy.
Phony argument… Since 1980 and the Reagan assault, unions have gone from approx. 30% of the work force to less than 7%.
Here you go, from 2015, from AOL, not exactly a conservative bastion:
https://www.aol.com/article/2015/09/03/americas-strongest-labor-unions-still-hold-political-power/21230942/
And, just for your rather fantasist, Candyland view of blame shifting, no one “assaulted” anyone, except union strongmen. If membership is down (thank heaven!) it is because PEOPLE refuse to join. Relax and take a knee, comrade. The fight is just beginning.
Your article does nothing to counter my argument. In fact, it supports it. I didn’t say unions have no political power or influence. I just said it’s been diminished by more than two-thirds. YOUR ARTICLE said they donated over 30 million to political campaigns. That number is dwarfed by the Koch brothers alone by almost 30 to 1. I live in Wisconsin with Governor-Ass Walker and witnessed the assault on unions first hand. And, if you knew anything about union history, you wouldn’t make such ignorant, asinine comments. BTW… you may have “comrades”… I don’t. You spew what you hear on FOX and read from neo-nut right-wing propaganda rags like this page… I relate what I see with my own eyes.
At one time Unions were useful, now they are bankrupting peoples retirement and states. You are not promoted because you are the best worker, you are promoted because you are next in line. They used to beat people up if they did not join, there is still harassment.
In Wisconsin, union retirement money was STOLEN by actions of the Governor. People worked and saved for decades to get the money they were promised… and people protested in HUGE numbers. https://49yzp92imhtx8radn224z7y1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Wisconsin-Union-Protest.jpg If states didn’t STEAL from the retirement funds, there wouldn’t be a problem. It’s their own fault, not the unions.
Everything is being run by the Globalist, IMF, etc for a takeover by the NWO.
Barack Obama was walking the United States right in to the NWO and that is were President Trump and Brexit threw a wrench in to their plans and they still haven’t figured out how to handle him.
They are trying to figure out how to get rid of him without causing a civil war of the people! They have isolated him in the WH, McMaster has gotten rid of his supporter, Kelly is keeping people away from him that will tell him what is happening. The Military Industrialized Complex is incharge.
You said the mid sixties right? I graduated in the late sixties and you didn’t graduate from Jr high to high school until you past a test on the constitution and Bill of rights. We should bring that back! 😉 we better start working on these schools fast. We will loose the next generation if we don’t. But I think it’s very important to teach your kids in the home also.
I was in Junior High School(long forgotten) from 1960 thru 63 and then High School 63 thru 66……the last years before LBJ’s Federalization(the Great Society) of our public schools and the last years of viable education that was not politicized with leftist propaganda. We have to remember that the radicals of that time and our generation(baby boomers) later got involved in “higher education” and became the leftist professors of students for the last 50 years. We have had generations of students that have been dumbed down, fed revisionist anti-American history and taught about the values of socialism….even though the young minds of mush have never experienced socialism. It may be too late because these generations are now teaching and passing down the progressive politics that they have been spoon fed and taught. My kids did not attend public schools…….I loved them too much to have them lost.
I’m with you. I never sent my 4 sons to public schools either. I wasn’t about to turn my sons over for government indoctrination. By the way, I made darned sure my sons were well indoctrinated with conservative views and well equipped on American History/Civics and the Constitution before they left for college. My sons are excellent debaters. 2 went to Cal/Berkeley and two went to Davis University. My two at Cal were always the ones called on to debate these liberal groups.
You sound like a wonderful, caring father.
Fine minds think alike……your sons showed a lot of courage and resolve to go to Cal.Berkeley, the birth place of “free speech” in the 60’s. It is hard to believe just how far to the left that California has gone and how far out of the mainstream that they are. It takes a real backbone to stand up to poorly informed liberal progressive socialist that have become fascist in pushing their agenda. I wish you and your sons all of the best……
Thank you George. It breaks my heart to watch what Commies have done to my state. Its a disgrace and I hope Moonbeam, Gavin Newsom, Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein and the rest of their commie friends all end up in heii for all eternity. For the first time in my life I’m seriously considering leaving CA. unbelievable what they have done to my once beautiful state. God Bless you and your family.
George Durdin,
“now they control who uses which restroom.:
What does that refer to? Are you one of those disgusting male perverts who wears dresses?
Exactly the opposite Norbert……the Federal government should not be in our schools or our children’s public restrooms and creating more “gender” possibilities to teach them. Children are confused enough without perverted adults playing with their young minds.
After the Feds got involved in our education in the mid 60’s the PE departments began implementing soccer as one of the subjects. Also at the same time the AYSO came into being. Until then it was volleyball, basketball, swimming, tennis, track& field, and wrestling.
i took my 3 of my grandchildren to DC, and NY 2 were in high school and 1 in the 8th grade. Veitnam Wall they asked if all of these names died there, almost 59,000, the Holocaust Museum?,13,000,000 died they never heard of it, in NY we went to Ellis Island, they never heard of it. they are teaching these kids nothing on our history
Amen……they are dumbing down our children, teens and young adults and trying to rewrite history to cover the Democrat party’s ugly racist past. It is sad because our youth are the leaders of tomorrow and they will only know what they have been indoctrinated in and not the truth.
the coup of Nov. 22 1963 gave US the unGREATful SOCIETY. Whites had to leave the school system for safety reasons. Also to get a real education. WE are still racist. Do not be ashamed of doing the right thing. THAT is the content of character Marxist Luther King was talking about. Only 5% of blacks have it. The rest are just N1663Rs (barry boy voters)
It sound as though YOU may be part of the problem and not the solution Tim. The assassination of JFK did give us President LBJ and his socialist movement the “Great Society” but is was proudly a MAJORITY of the Republicans that passed the 1964- 65 “Civil Rights” and “Voting Rights Acts”. These acts were LONG over due Tim. I was in Junior High and High School from 1960 thru 1966 during segregation and then integration in the deep, deep south and NEVER fear going to school one day. Fortunately I received a GREAT education before LBJ managed to Federalize our public schools and colleges starting in 1967. You may HATE King because he was black but he was not a Marxist….I know because I was one during the Vietnam war and King was anything but a Marxist Socialist. King’s true goal was equal and civil rights for the black community. It does appear that you are in fact an unabashed RACIST……and KKK member.
I have a picture of him and Rosa Parks and Mr. (CPUSA) Livingston at communist training school in Tennessee in 1958. He was receiving money from the Soviet Union during the cold war. He was a fraud, alcoholic and plagiarist. A pastor that cheats on his wife is a hero to you ? So you admit the feds took over the schools, great. Why have the whites left in droves ? Are they ALL racist ? I went to Robert E Lee HS in Baton Rouge, it was NOT safe. Bobby Kennedy sent the troops to Alabama (state owned & controlled school, NOT federal) in 1963 before his brother was killed. You know what happened in Boston in 1973 when integration was FORCED on those precious yankees ? Riots broke out. Yep, the truth hurts. I have not been drinking the kool-aid as you have admitted to doing so. What good became of the civil wrong movement ? schools are brainwashing the (obama,bush,clinton, bush) youth. The unGREATful SOCIETY has bankrupted the US ($22 trillion) and the corruption is deeper than anyone can imagine, unless you are totally blind and yet you are the faithful NAZI to this system ? I am not the socialist moron, you are. I guess you enjoy funding the murder of babies & selling the body parts ? YOU will answer to GOD for this. “what you don’t oppose, you give hearty approval to” Book of Romans (Bible) The oligarchy will fail, and rightfully so !
You are right about the time, but the reason was the dumbing down of education as a result of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. That is when education took a serious nosedive.
True! I am a 1959 graduate, and when I met my science teacher at a reunion,(10 yr) he
said he retired due to the decline. He said our system peaked out in 1961, after which,
the students seemed to be drugged. He said he would ask them what he had just
said and they only had blank looks !
Give the teachers a quiz about history and math including geometry and see how much they know.
Maybe the Parents ought to start monitoring some of what is taught in the classrooms in the schools their children are going to. That may wake them up to what is really being taught by liberal teachers that inject their personal views into teaching a class.
How do you know this is actually what is happening ? You mean to tell me only liberals teach ? What you’re saying is there are no right wing teachers in our public school system ?
Has there been a study into this and if so where is your study when and where was it conducted ? I’m also very interested to know what liberal views are injected who did the survey ?
I know this happens at the college and university level but limited to liberal arts and political science.
You have a choice you can send your child to a Christian school. I personally would not recommend such education for my child and I didn’t they (4) all attended Liberal colleges they are all well adjusted individuals earning good salaries.
Fact. You will VERY rarely find any university instructor to admit they are conservative. This comes from current and retired professors, both liberal and conservative. The difference is, you hear it from the conservative only after they have been ‘blacklisted’ from programs for teaching something other than the ‘marxist’ agenda. If you speak about any conservative politicians in a positive way in the faculty lounge, or worse, in a classroom, you will be shunned. The complaints, are overwhelming, but even more pathetic is the reasons and admissions by administrators that they do not want ‘hatred’ taught at their school, in ref to conservative values. The former Soviet KGB started infiltrating universities, in particular, journalism and law programs as early as the 1930’s. This is directly from the files of the KGB that were opened (with the exception of ‘extremely sensitive’ state info) after the Soviet Union fell. The files also proved that 90% of the ‘Hollywood’ types called before the McCarthy hearings in the 1950’s actually did have KGB contacts. This was part of the Soviets goal of getting control over the US media. Many of the writers, not only in Hollywood, but NY as well and were extremely successful in gaining control over the New York Times early on, and to this day (by admission of the NYT’s Mgmt) accepts articles written by Russian news “writers” (actually written by the Russian FSB, the replacement of the KGB) and are paid by Russia and consider it ‘advertising’ rather than ‘news, but the reader will not know this by reading the stories.
Currently, most elementary and high school texts are purchased by boards consisting of members from neighboring states, who review different texts for subjects offered and agree on selected books to buy. This gives the buying states more ‘buying power’ (bulk purchase rates=lower cost per book). It was discovered that these ‘boards’ actually consisted of (and still consist of) far left, Marxist/socialist members who only selected far left wing books. This was revealed with the ‘Texas School buying board’ several years back after many started to question the books as they were teaching ‘re-written’ history about the US as well as giving false accounts of US involvement in world affairs. It was also discovered that ‘Bill Ayres’, the former ‘weather underground member’ and domestic terrorist, who bombed government buildings and was implicated in the murder of police officers (and is married to former member and terrorist, Bernadette Dorn) was on this board as well as others of like mind and background.
It was determined most members had far left wing associations and had been selecting books that can only be described as Marxist propaganda. And if you think colleges have something against known terrorists and murderers (for the cause), Ayres was hired as a professor at a Chicago University and the administration was fully aware of his background.
Our young people, including your ‘liberal educated’ kids have been under a constant bombardment of anti-American propaganda, from soft propaganda to hard propaganda. This is one of the main reasons you can not engage a liberal in political conversation for the conservative view without the liberal breaking out in Marxist rhetoric and talking points and insults. It has been ingrained in them to the point they can not accept facts or logic as the type of propaganda used on them creates ‘circular logic’ (by design). They are programmed to believe anyone supporting conservatism is ‘evil’. There is nothing untrue in the above. WAKE UP.
Wait a friggin minute there ! What do you mean by Unions ? As a lifetime union member I resent your remarks. We unionize in order to do collective bargaining for wages, work rights and a safe working environment. No one controls us no one tells me what to do if I don’t like my work environment I leave, it’s just that simple. The public school system is not controlled by neither unions or democrats where do you pick this stuff up from you make no sense ?
Living in between two major Democrat controlled cities and everything in between is Demonrat controlled . Teachers are supposedly Educated and Smart ,so why are they paying big money to the Union ??? They are paying $50.00 to$100.00 dollars a month based on their salaries . Boy are they smart !!!! When you say work rights you mean protect the lazy and drunks .
I’m not a teacher so I can’t answer that. What I can say is this; Unions are organizations they need people to run them and those people are like the rest of us they need a salary in order to live. Their locals determine the dues. There is a benefit to being organized as I said to you, as for me the dues are negligible relative to the benefits I get out of it. So yes I do believe I made a smart move I’m retired now and I thank my union for the extra funds in addition to SS that allows me to enjoy my retirement yrs. w/o worry of not having enough money to live on, I’m one lucky son of a gun or I made a smart choice early in life. And to answer your last comment we do not tolerate lazy or drunk people. It’s in our agreement between our union and general contractors & owners. I have seen people arrive drunk to work only to be sent home or fired. It’s not the wild west no holds barred as you seem to think.
It’s evident you was not in Manufacturing where many lost jobs and benefits There is a big difference .
You were talking about teachers saying they were stupid for paying union dues and being lazy & drunk. Now you want to switch over to manufacturing jobs, yes, it’s true manufacturing lost many jobs due to plant closings others to automation yet others to jobs being shipped overseas.
The two subjects are not even related I’m losing you what is your point ?
Yes the way I wrote it can get confusing . I was answering to Work rights , the lazy and drunk was a big problem in union shops .I was not thinking of the teachers that way, they would use a sick day .Teachers and Government workers should not be in a union . It is next to impossible to fire either one .
I went to Chatolic School and got a better education that the products put out by the Public schools in this country. As far as the Unions go only belonged to 2 and hated paying ass holes to make decisions for me. I am smart enough to make up my own mind. It’s all about the money and nothing more.
When Unions turned into big corporations making big salaries at the top and better benefits than those paying dues is when they lost clout . Take the Gov. employees union away and what is left ???? Gov. Unions from the Municipals to the federal level are hurting the Tax Payer .
I agree with you Tony, but we have no say in our government nor with big Unions that are trying hard to come back with their unreasonable demands. That is why we don’t have jobs in America any longer. A hard working American don’t need unions, the lazy do.
You hit the nail on the head. Now take that hammer and drive the ding bats down the drain.
This is so very true( to both Jim and Retired)! I am now 77 years old. I had planned to teach History, English, and music, but before even finishing college I became aware that none of them would be accepted in the world we see today. All three topics have already been corrupted by today’s “politically correct bunch”.
I have family that are teachers; It’s all about the teachers and administrators, NOT
the students. The union does not care about the students, ask the union president!
It is that way in Democrat controlled areas .
No, that’s because Jim paid attention in class.
What do you think of the new math system. I think it stinks. 12 plus 11 equals 20 is what they are taught from what I learned when helping my grandson with math and taught him it equaled 23 and the teacher told him that that was incorrect.
Yes, I’ve seen a lot of young people that don’t even know the basic math. I was at an airport back east one time and walked into one of the airport stores to buy something that cost .75 cents. I handed the girl behind the counter a 20.00 bill; she couldn’t figure that simple thing out in her head, had to call another girl at which time they ended up pulling out a calculator to figure out how much I should get in change.
Yep, I’ve had that happen to me too. What would these kids have done YEARS ago without a calculator, without a cash register, etc?
Stupid teacher teaching incorrect math (I could care less if it IS “new math”…….it is NOT MATH. It is a lie, simple and total. Your grandson would have been better off in home school, private school, Christian school, or without school…..than in public school teaching him how to fail mathematics.
One reason you got that grade is because you were NOT schooled in today’s schools which are not schools, but they are simply there for brainwashing all the youngsters. That done, it doesn’t take too many years to totally overthrow the nation. Is there anyone out there who doesn’t think that stealing our nation is the goal of dumbing down our population? Once all of us old codgers (I am 78 years old) die off, the country will be left with millions who are totally incompetent to lead anything but a violent attack on others. This nation will fall.
“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on to them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” Ronald Reagan 40th President of the United States
Great idea re the billboard!! But if done, someone would come along and destroy it……assuming he was capable of reading it.
I thought about that just after I posted . Whenever I see all this crap happening (ANTIFA, the MSM, now the NFL), I think of Pres. Reagan’s statement. I posted it to make people aware of it. Most don’t know of it. By the way , I’ll be hitting the big 70 in Oct.
😌🌺 I’ll be hitting 79 Dec 26! I don’t feel much different than when I was 20 years old…..except I don’t still have the stamina or strength I did then. LOL. Have a great day/evening!
Tasine,
Those are important differences; however, if they don’t bother you, great.
Or Warning education from this school could be hazardous to your mental health.
Your post is so very true. A nations populous, kept ignorant of their rights and freedoms, is much easier for a government to control.
Very true! The first thing we can do is get rid of COMMON CORE!!! It’s a “brainwash” curriculum ! Teaching our kids to “close off their natural talents & “follow” instructions only! That’s a form of hypnotizm ! Making our kids into”robots” & “control” their thinking early in their lives so as adults they will turn out NOT to have a mind of their own!
Great comment! Making our kids into robots and control their thinking early in their lives so as adults they will turn out NOT to have a mind of their own!” But their kids will be little clones of the teachers AND probably the parents. The left has been working on this for years ……in my view to have MIND CONTROL throughout the nation. Ain’t it a great life, having leftists run everyone’s lives?!😡😡😡
We were educated by actual teachers who knew facts–these new educators of our are a dismal failure–also parents don’t seem very interested in their children’s education–most of the under 30 crowd couldn’t close an umbrella.
I have to disagree with you on that one. I have four grandkids who attended magnate schools all have high grade avg.’s high enough to have earned full scholarships to universities, They are very well educated and intelligent. We will do very well in their careers.
But I do agree there is something wrong with our educational system unless the parents are involved all the way through their school years their chances are rather dimmed at success.
Damn you beat me 73 and took the 100 question quiz and got 96% did not look to see what questions I missed should have.
kisparrow,
They don’t tell you; however, in this case, I didn’t really care. I only missed one, but I have to admit that luck was on my side. I had to make educated guesses in several cases, and I guessed right. I don’t know which one I got wrong, but there were several questions that I don’t hold myself responsible for knowing. In other words, I did very well, but if I had missed several more of them I wouldn’t have really cared, because they were not reasonable questions.
Darn Norbert that makes it worse one vs my four. Like you I made a few guesses. This may show the getting older you get smarter may be hope for me yet
JIM BERRY,
What’s bad is that you use your age for excuses.
Rats, I only got 95% right….
Jim Berry,
I just took the quiz. I got ONE wrong. Dammit! it must be because of my age. I’m 79.
I have taken the test and I got 94% (good show Jim Berry) and we just happen to be the same age. I mentioned this to several teachers and proposed that prior to issuing a high school diploma, every student must pass the Naturalization test, because the sad truth is those studying for naturalization know more about our country than natural born citizens do. The teachers, for the most part, agreed (it might have been only lip service) stating further that it would never happen because the administrators would never allow it to happen. To borrow a favorite word from President Trump, ‘Sad.’
Actually, your elevated age may have something to do with your high score. Back in your day, students knew their civics. Your teachers made sure of it. We’ve had a steady decline ever since. Sad
we think you mean your 97 and only got 76% right.
I believe that is because when you and I, age 66 went to school we were actually taught the basics of education, Today the students, are given calculators, and a host of digital electronics that do all the thinking for you, All one has to do is punch in the information and the answere is provided. However, I congratulate you, you scored higher than I, by seven percentage points, still I think 90 is not a bad score!
THAT’S BECAUSE you are 76 years old not despite of being 76! I am 71, took that quiz, and only missed one. Jim, I am 71, and when we grew up, American history was VERY IMPORTANT. We learned everything from how the country was founded, and why. We were taught the Constitution, what our law says about legal immigration, the FACT that you had to be a “Natural Born Citizen” to run for POTUS or VP, how our government and the two party system worked. We had debates in Government in high school over the issues of the day, left vs right etc. We had to write term papers in government, and by
God! It was HELL to pay if you didn’t know the date our Founding Fathers signed the Declaration of Independence, and who was in office at the time. I am shocked at the ignorance of liberals today. Most of those kids on Spring Break driniking like a fish on the beach find it funny when they don’t even have an idea who the Father of our country was. When shown pictures of Biden, they haven’t a clue who he is! THEN they elect people like BO who was never eligible to be POTUS and was a traitor to our country, a Muslim/Communist/Arab! He nearly destroyed this country. The old Blue Dogs are gone, these new representatives of the Demoncrappy Party are not Americans, unlike the old Blue dogs, the old party was totally against abortion, it is evil and they were against it as much as the right. My college Government class was one of the hardest at my university. It was taught by a professor who was close friends with the Kennedys, you were fortunate to get out of it with a C. Those who Aced it went to Harvard Law School. Charile, as we called him NEVER tried to make anyone a member of his party. INSTEAD HE taught us the FACTS. He allowed the students to make the decision as to whether they were more for the Democrat platform or the Republican Platform. Most people do not know that Nixon and JFK were actually friends and had lunch together many times when they were young Congressmen representing different parties. They were both Naval Officers and had a lot in common. Do you think in today’s world, Watters would be friends with any of the Conservatives? NO WAY When liberals took over the Democratic Party, America lost it’s soul and God, and now, we are going to get it back, despite the Communist, Socialist, Athiest, and radicals that make up the crazy loon party that hates all things good, and loves all things bad, the Army of Satan. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dc3adee738efba8bb03236f1a102eba7f5e95124b7d848307cee8cfcad554e1a.jpg
What do you want a medal?? What is your point.
That was because schools taught such important cultural facts. Nice the Dems took control and particularly the last 16 years and common core, theybeliminated any cultural pride and history from the curriculum. If you vote dem you vote against the country now. Not my party anymore after 49 years.
I would like to find and take that quiz… I am 69 y/o. been a long time since feet in the classroom, working for a living, and watching a troop of hooligans run our magnificent America down the sewer in favor of their NWO.. I am horrified !
I am a Veteran, a conservative, armed and unhappy. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1bf92878ebc8ffec9ae5da9b5282328d752e4c7d0f0d892d1495fb1c84a78bb6.jpg
andrew,
I could easily send you the link, but that would only help you to continue your lazy ways. Find it yourself! Use Google. Help yourself for once.
Comprehend this Norbert.. I spent all the aforementioned interim time making a living, watching the likes of NAFTA cutting my gains out from under success after success… while the NWO advocates drove America down the sewer… Don’t you FUCKING DARE presume to call me lazy
andrew,
What a dumb, silly and just plain ridiculous response. I could have used harsher adjectives, but I decided to go easy on you. Anyway, I won’t help you do something that you can easily do for yourself once you get off your ass. Google it. It’s easy. This could be the best advice you’ve had in years. Stop leaning on others.
Norbert, I, too am elder, and struggling my own way thru my new Christmas Lenovo laptop, and having a ball doing so… Truce ??
andrew,
Not only a truce, but an apology. Rude, uncalled for comments by ME are the main reason I am trying to leave blogs behind. I say, “trying,” because it’s not that easy. Evidence for this is all around you. Being nasty is part of being human. but I believe it can be suppressed. Anyway, little by little, I am winning. True, once in a while, I have a relapse, but I do believe I’m winning. Thanks for pushing me back towards the righteous path.
Accepted and Forgiven ! I too do battle daily with this blog thing, daily injecting opinion where no care dwells, toward what point or end unknown, but ya gotta admitit’s a whole hell of a lot of fun sometimes… Peace !!
andrew,
Yeah, it is fun, and maybe that’s enough justification. Some people play video games all day, some glue themselves to their TVs. others…. I have been criticizing such choices, but who am I to decide on how someone else should spend his time? I won’t anymore. However, for myself, I know there is something better to do than to spend HOURS everyday on senseless and pointless wrangling. No more for me…I hope.
Because you are 76 is exactly why you passed with such a high grade. Schools are too busy teaching subversive ideologies, anti-American values, and racism, to bother teaching fundamentals. We need to cut these Liberals out of our school systems. They are destroying the minds of our youth.
This is what the Communists are doing to the left in America. They have been programming our youth for decades. They are now suffering from ideological subversion, what I called Stockholm syndrome. Yet it is so much worse. Do take the time to see this video.
ideological subversion
https://youtu.be/mqSV72VNnV0
Where did you see the quiz?
The 100 question Civics Test is found here:
http://civicsquiz.com/100-question-u-s-civics-quiz/
Well, for pity sake I missed three also. I miss read the gun one. I was paying attention to the shooting report on TV and didn’t read it carefully enough. Illegal aliens have the same Constitutional Rights as Americans, except gun ownership, the right to vote, and to hold some gov’t jobs. I thought the question was going for that. On closer inspection it said “responsibility” and that word changed the entire meaning. The other two I just missed. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/83253335edcaff789b836d0e1f2a26d06a1b2ee1ae41ce04d15eef87af502fa7.jpg
Which did you miss?
I responded to you, but for some reason they pulled it. Crazy. Thanks, I took the test and missed three. One I miss read. The other two I just missed. The river one I shouldn’t have, as I actually knew that one. Which did you miss? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/83253335edcaff789b836d0e1f2a26d06a1b2ee1ae41ce04d15eef87af502fa7.jpg
You must have taken the same quiz as did I also got a 97 and I am 70.
Well, civics and American history are history in schools today as part of the DNC taking over our educational systems with our tax money and this took place in the early 60’s. So many of us are fortunate to have learned these elemental facts, and in my high school had to pass state and fed Constitution tests. What a concept? Many Americans are slowly learning what they should have been taught, but I always suggest they FREE Constitution pamphlet from The Heritage group or study it online with them. Or, get a copy from a library and bone up. We had to draw and study all the states of our country as well. Heck, I had to learn all the states in Mexico while living there because I wanted to know more about the country where I was living and working (had to have 2 permits or out you go!). Take responsibility for yourselves in everything as the Constitution was built on our learning and teaching freedom and rights which are available to all, including everyone of any color!
I had to remember all the counties in Pa to pass the test.
the education system in America sucks. Teachers are only worried about more money and benifits, School Boards have been over stepping in to area’s they don’t belong and these high paid administrators only want to teach lies. I am sure I will hear from teacher and all I can tell them all your worthless. Subjects are being dropped, grade levels have been dropped to take care of the morons in schools and why to much money is wasted on sports. PE is one thing but all the wasted money on sports should be put into hiring better teacher and buying books.
The teachers are so smart that they pay high Union dues to keep from working and losing the job .
i tool the quiz and got 98%.
so guess i paid ATTENTION when i was a school Boy lol.
and the 2% i missed i should have gotten just was answering a little to quick.
People should have seen the reading list for elementary and junior high students that the Obumers decreed our children read. I saw that list and protested to my state legislature and state school board. Guess what they put all titles on the list anyway. I was blessed to attend school when history was taught and you did not pass unless you learned the history of the USA. Well, guess I am an “old biddy” who knows the history of our great country.
We need more “Old Biddy”s supporting civics and history in our schools.
Thank you for “heads up” … I am a history lover, USA supporter, and proud to say a librarian. Thanks to my teachers through the years I learned a lot. Really appreciate the positive comment.
In Texas one school system asked the parents to read the new history books and when they found how the publishers were changing history they sent the books back.
Nice, huh? Liberals have a lot to answer for.
We all need more states like Texas!!! They stand their ground against all odds.
stopped it in school, that is what you get when the school boards refuse to act..monitor .. and do something with teachers and what they teach.. Local control works and recalls work, been there done that.
Maybe we need a TV channel 24 hours a day teaching history 2 hours and math 6 hours and do the segments every 6 hours and then do it again so if they have trouble learning it they can watch it again and again until they learn it without the commercials and to use that time for questions for the student to learn. Teach different information each week. It will help everyone!
John,
We already have it. YouTube has more than you could ever watch, but you would need someone to make sure that the student watches it.
Yvonne Crumpler,
Why not even one example?
And we want to expand the number of voters. I wonder, what percentage could name the five freedoms in the First Amendment. Of course, you’d have to get past the blank stare you’d get when just mentioning the first Amendment.
American Dunciad
There should be a basic 10 question test one has to pass before being allowed in the voting booth.
Absolutely.
The statistics in this article are wrong. If a third of Americans (33%) cannot name even one branch of the federal government, then at least 33% cannot name all three, not the 25% as stated in the article. If they can’t name even one then they definitely can’t name all three. Journalism is not what it used to be. Math education must not be, either.
Oops! I was the one reading it wrong. It said 75% couldn’t name the 3 branches. 25% could name them. Just disregard my initial posting and my apologies to the journalists and our math educators.
We need to return civics and history to our schools.
I graduated HS in the late 70’s and civics was already gone…sad, I had to learn it on my own.
P’tar,
I graduated from High School in California in 1955.. Civics was taught but boy was it boring. However, I’m sure that the same material had already been covered in other classes. Anyway, if I had never had the High School Civics class, I would be no different today. By the way I’m the one who missed only one question in the 100 question test, but I give no credit to that Civics class. What I know now I’ve learned and relearned through the years. It would be interesting to know how much of what people are taught in school they remember as adults. I contend that it’s a very small percentage of what they were taught, UNLESS they kept learning and relearning. That’s what makes an intelligent and knowledgable adult. We all forget. Smart and conscientious people relearn.
I’m a flaming liberal. I took the exam posted on this site’s comments section by CharlieSeattle. 96%. I’m sure I will get called a liar and a cheat. Go ahead. I didn’t and am not.
Another liberal here that knows History and Civics (97%). Would love to see Trump’s score!!
an IQ of 158 and a background and degree from Wharton School of Business (UoP) speaks for itself. These are Trump’s credentials
Indeed, and it speaks so highly that thousands of UoP alumni have signed an anti-trump letter don’t you think?
John Flynn,
How do you know his IQ? I’m not saying its impossible, but if you were to go by his vocabulary and his speaking performances, you would have to say that his IQ can’t be more than 100. He is not intellectually impressive in the least. On the contrary, he seems more like a dumbo.
That would be good for a laugh wouldn’t it? I’d also like to see the whiner commenters scores too 🙂
How about all the politicians scores
So how old are you, If I may ask. If you were part of the now senior generation, you likely did get taught History and Civics and Government and actually may have had to pass a test about it.
66. I’m not sure how much credit I would give solely schools, as life experience counts too. I will say that I feel I had a good public education.
After one admits to being a “flaming” liberal, we know all we ever need to know about you. Pathetic really.
The feeling is mutual pal.
If we want kids to learn any facts, or anything of importance at all, we have to get democrat party members out of public education. They have been destroying the mental health of our youth for decades and it has only recently become too obvious to ignore. They (democrats) now control what is taught at universities since they (govt, run by leftist employees) took control of all student loans. Colleges do not want to get ‘blacklisted’ as eligible to receive student loan tuition payments. The fact is, most colleges tuition is sky high solely because the government took over the loan program. A bank would not loan a student $60 K a year to go to a state university knowing it is fairly unlikely to be repaid. They might loan $15 p/yr, but not $60k. Only the government, would get involved in this. This is functionally bribery to colleges to teach the democrat/marxist mantra. So the next step, after getting democrats out of public schools is to get rid of the govt student loan program. Then, and only then, will universities have to actually compete to provide the best education and not propaganda.
And stop giving diplomas to the sport players who learned nothing except how to play the sport and make big bucks. This is great for them but not for our country.
If our younger generation has a very scant knowledge of our history, the Constitution and our government structure is it because of the libtards that would rather teach LGBT, how to change sex and other subjects they should be broaching rather subjects that make them good citizens. Every teacher, especially public school, should completely vetted before being allowed to enter a classroom!
the question would be, “who’s DOING the vetting…”. This may be where the problem lies!
Maybe this quiz should be given to all people applying for a job and if they fail they are not hired and do not get government aid
It is worse than that. Many people living in California can’t answer that ocean question.
and the survey done by the National Geographical Society indicated that a very large percentage of graduating seniors (college) could not identify the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean on a world map……….
My mother was a teacher who loved teaching so much, she told me that she would teach for nothing, if she could have afforded it. Most teachers are in it for the perks…long vacation and the security of a job. When a teacher is just putting in time, the students know it. My mother went into a city ghetto to teach…and lifted her students from below average to above average in the city. She got the parents to work with her by telling them to set an example for their children by buying books. She told them, if you can’t read, sit and hold the book, so your children can see what interests you. It worked! TV does not cut the mustard! It has been a curse; not a benefit.
The movie is NEVER as good as the book. When you read you get to exercise your imagination, as opposed to having descriptions written in a book laid out for you. Two examples, Catch-22 and Les Miserables
My child had a teacher and came home and told us that she was tired of hearing about this daily life and not learning and we went to the principal who sat in his class and then fired him.
I can believe that Liberals do not know anything about History. Liberals or alternatively several different names such as, progressives and socialists. Progressives do not want History even taught in schools. They are even unaware of 100 years of their own failed education reforms. They keep on trying.
Not in ANY way surprised! The dumbing down of America started decades ago and has now reached a fever pitch. And it is all by design! Many saw it coming—few did anything to stop it!
California is lowering the standards to become a Lawyer with Gov. “Moon Beam” Jerry Brown’s help!?¡¿
California is also droping hand writing & reading skills from the required curriculum to graduate from high school. Also lowering “dumbing down” the S.A.T. Exams to enable more idiots to pass!!
I guess I paid more attention in Civics class than I thought. Just took the test and got 97% on one and 89 on the other. I finished school in 1963 when they were still teaching. Now days they want to lower the grade point of new teachers so they can graduate dumber than if they hadn’t gone to school.
Well done, I’m 62, I was born in the UK and now live in Australia, just took the test and even I scored 92% failed # 9,10,37,48,65,88,91,92. so they must be dumbed down so sad.
Amen……I graduated from high school in 1966 and still remember the lessons from my civics classes and Capitalism vs. Communism course. That was BEFORE LBJ’s “Great Society which has ruined our public education system from kindergarten through college.
There are MANY liberal progressive, career professional politicians in the House and Senate that know nearly NOTHING about basic civics, the Constitution, Bill of Rights, the electoral college, American history, the Civil War, the difference between a representative Republic and a Democracy or even the basic operation of our government; ie Maxine Waters, Al Green of Texas, Al Franken. It is frightening to know that these under educated politicians are in office and hold power.
It is their stupid constituent that elect them year after year. So, they stayed as career politicians. That means who say you need to be smart to get higher salaries and perks. We have living proof that it ain’t so – be a career politician. It’s new American dream job 🙂 🙂 🙂
All the more reason to have term limits of three two year terms for Representative and two six year terms for Senators…….of course good luck in getting the proposal past Congress. They also should also require a basic civics and government test before even being allowed to run for office. Just how many uneducated and tested physicians are you likely to find at a hospital?
Have these changes made at the election booth by the voters, even it is not allowed just to let them know we want the change
Term limits would have to come from legislation starting in the House and the professional career politicians are not about to threaten their own jobs and power and they are well aware that the American people want term limits.
That is NOT entirely true. Article V of the Constitution permits a Convention of States can be called if 2/3 of the states’ legislatures petition for it.
That is unlikely given the divide between “red” and “blue” states would ever happen. Besides that a Convention of States could be just as risky because it opens up the floor to debate by ALL political whims and fancies…..it could become a circus. We should be careful of what we wish and hope for.
We’re talking about a convention of states as provided by Article 5. It is different from a constitutional convention (which would be open to whims).
Thirty four state legislatures need to resolve and approve stating the specific scope of topics for discussion. So far, 12 states have passed resolutions including Alaska, Texas, Florida, and Georgia. Nine additional states have passed resolutions in at least one house of its legislature. When legislatures now in recess reconvene, it is expected active legislation will be introduced in most. So it is in the realm of possibility.
And once again you are ignoring the red state, blue state divide. The four states that you sight are all “red” states. The blue Democrat/Progressive lead states will never get involved. Clinton won 19 blue states in 2016 and their were at least three others that are normally blue. So the chances of a Convention of States is slim to none
George — you may be right, but only time will tell.
I analyzed the nature of state legislatures after the 2012 election and continue to be baffled by states like Michigan and Pennsylvania whose legislatures are more often than not
dominated by Republicans.
Things may be closer than we are led to believe by the media outlets.
Guess again, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are traditionally very blue “rust belt” states that will go back to being blue if the Republicans drop the ball and don’t fulfill Presidents Trump’s pro-growth and pro-America agenda. I don’t believe one word that ANY of the liberal progressive media has to say……they(ABC,CBS,NBC-MSDNC,CNN, the NY Times & Washington Post) are all owned by very wealthy liberal progressive globalist that use their outlets to manipulate the thoughts,opinions and potential votes of the American people.
George — The method the “free press” uses to slant the reporting of the red/blue state divide largely relies only on elections for national office.
Examining other sources of information at the state level leads to many curiosities. I cannot remember my best source for state election metrics, but the second-best is this … http://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/partisan-composition.aspx
If one examines the historical composition of state legislatures one finds most states are red states.
Even tracing back to the 1970’s it is important to note that though the democrats seem to have dominated state legislatures, the traditional southern states’ democrats were “blue dog” democrats with vastly different political philosophies from the modern coastal blue states.
The push to the right that we have made over the last eight years is encouraging BUT the Senate Republicans MUST support our President in fulfilling his agenda. The Republicans have taken back the House, Senate, 2/3rd’s of the governors seats, nearly 1,000 Democrat seats in state government and finally the White House but now RINO’s in both the House and Senate are balking at supporting the President. Failure to fulfill the presidents agenda could very well lead to a turn back to the left. I was born and raised in the south and remember the racist Dixiecrats and rednecks back then that within ten years turned to the conservative right as staunch Republicans and the racial issues eased. The south is a different place today than it was 50 years ago. My hope is that those on the right will continue to fight against the liberal progressives for our Republic.
I concur.
This all falls back to our failing education system. First thing you do to fix it is the removal of the national education association teachers from our public schools. That would be a great start. Get rid of the lazy protected liberal bias teachers who hate America.
AAAAAAAMMMEEENNN
Firing squad perhaps?
What ever keeps them from brainwashing our youth.
Kevin, GREAT to see you on here!!
Kevin Monahan,
I think people are being too hard on our educational system. I think the main problem is with that old enemy of mankind: memory. Yes, I think that all of the students who did poorly on that test had probably been taught all of the correct answers, but the answers had been erased by time. But what about those who did well? I think those people had continued reading and learning. They didn’t lose interest in such things when they left school. WE ALL FORGET. The only way to retain what we were taught is to refresh our memories, to relearn it. That TV show, “Are you smart than a 5th grader?” is good evidence of that.
When you teach you must teach it ALL, we have liberal, alleged teachers who twist history to suite themselves and our children are the victims.
” 37% of respondents could not name A SINGLE RIGHT protected by the First Amendment… ”
“Every single person that took this survey learned this stuff in school.”
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They don’t learn in school. Period! They are brainwashed and reconditioned to protest without thinking – like zombies. The propaganda works this way: The school brainwashed them; mainstream media reinforce the political bias with fake news and then Hollywood glorify the stupidity with passion and promote it as a trend. And the cycle is repeated: Academic => MSM => Hollywood. They complement each other to reinforce the propaganda. That’s why they are zombies protesters- burn down neighborhoods, businesses, properties and looted stores!!! And, 37% could not name A SINGLE RIGHT protected by the First Amendment!
Thank you, US Department of Education?
For the ability to increase the stupidity level, create zombies and brain-dead generation of tomorrow!
The older we are, the more likely to have been taught by dedicated teachers! I can name all seven of my elementary school teachers–all were REAL teachers!
What is also interesting in this is some of these uninformed, uneducated nitwits will one day be our future leaders in America. And these uninformed, uneducated nitwits will be making decisions on the lives and function of the other uninformed, uneducated nitwits living in America. This is why YOU, yes YOU, need to educate yourself and be proactive and vote intellectually in each election. This way we can prevent these uninformed, uneducated nitwits from taking over. Remember the movie “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”? Well, there you go.
agree…and for those who don’t want to keep up with what’s going on I would suggest that you simplify things by just voting OUT any politician who has been in office more than one or two terms….and do it consistently year after year.
Academia intended nation of idiots. Well done leftists, you’ve nearly succeeded….
What has been going on for years now, in our schools and colleges, is not education, but rather communist propaganda and indoctrination! That’s why most people are clueless idiots, but that doesn’t stop them from talking, does it?!
If the working parents would spend some time with their children, doing homework or teaching them what they need to know, rather than making a buck, so they can have nice vacations, cars, clothes, etc, then maybe our children would be smarter.
This poll along with other signs shows why our liberal education system failed. talk to young kids today and its clear they did not get the same education I did. I am 71 yrs. old and shocked at what they are not learning abiut the truth of our nation. It’s no wonder we are struggling as a nation.
This should be on a bill board in Washington D.C.
Don’t forget, they also took away Pledge of Allegiance, and spanking, when needed by either a teacher or principal.
Yes we could go on and on as to the truly dumming down of the youth today. We have set by and watched this happen with little fight. We have ourselves to blame to some degree. A lot of these things that have changed in education have bern boldly obvious and still too many parents and conservative politicians didn’t rise up. Hopefully with the new education director, our president and more aggressive advocates for real education, things will improve.
Our miserable education system is infested with treasonous democrats/communists who have poisoned the minds of our children with their America-hating lies. Sadly, the Marxist indoctrination has worked. The little snowflakes have bought it all. While we were working, this disgusting group of traitors have turned our young against us and our nation through lies and misinformation. May they all soon reap their just rewards.
Everything liberals know is wrong
Teachers today are told students must complete to meet gov. standards. Students are allowed to take a test up to 5 times till they get a passing mark. If they don’t pass after the 5th attempt teachers are told to dumb down the test and have the student try again. When all you care about is quantity instead of quality it becomes a race to the bottom. When I taught I was told I had to dumb down my course. I refused and replied ” First you have the quality then you get the quantity” . PS It is impossible for a teacher to get a disruptive student removed from their class even when the student makes death threats. This needs to change.
“…. the majority of Americans – especially liberals – are woefully underinformed when it comes to civics and history.”
The fact is that we already knew this. It is reflected in the facts of recent, post-World War II history. We have lived through administrations of presidents who lied to the public about critical policies for the purpose of not jeopardizing their re-election. Presidents need to know this. However and how much they might be conflicted over the choices which they must make, the cost of diversity is determined by the number of dead who have to tolerate it. The problem with “liberty for all” is that it does not produce “justice for all.” This is what makes the law of the utmost importance. This is what requires that all members of a given society be educated in the same values, over the fundamentals of which, there can be no disagreement. If this is not accomplished, equal justice is an impossibility.
We have observed the affinity of persons of the same race, language, religion, ethnicity or professional field or interest, the association by fact of sameness of certain, basic factors of commonality. The essence of terrorism is not knowing when or why, which of these factors will be a reason for an individual or group to target others who are different. After all, we know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that difference is the factor which is the cause of terrorism. Since this IS true, why would we want to promote difference? Certainly not for the cost factor. Certainly not as a scientific study comparing a control group and an experimental group.
One consistent conclusion came out of assessment of the causes for the 9/11/01 attacks, the failure of intelligence and security. We know that we can not take the security of the atmosphere of freedom in the U.S. for granted as we used to before 2001. Ironically, it is not our politicians who are targeted by individuals or groups representing some factor of diversity. Yet, they are the ones who are responsible for the policies which promote diversity and allow the consequences of it. There is every reason for old-family Americans to be angry about policies which devalue the sacrifices made to maintain a necessary, fundamental consistency in the values which made America the greatest country on the face of the earth.
Blacks need to get over the idea that slavery was merely “whitey getting something for nothing,”—-a notion justifying the attitude and actions of blacks which puts them in positions of violation of the law and altercations with law enforcement, in the same way as the Confederacy at the time of the Civil War. Neither race can do anything about the difference factor of color. Is prejudice and discrimination any better or worse for mixed-race children? Did mixed-race-ness solve the problem of prejudice or discrimination? No, even former President Obama made the choice, despite being mixed race, to recognize the dominance of the black gene and perpetuate it, biologically, with a black wife. After looking in the mirror, had he chosen to be “white,” many people would have questioned the logic of his evaluation and choice, based on appearance and obvious, dominant genes. So, if, for what your physical eyes sees, what your mind’s eye perceives are two entirely different things, there must be a fundamental, inherent reason for the choice you make with respect to identification. Now, having, logically, proved this to be true, is it not illogical for people to make choices which do not respect the inherent reality of who and what they are, especially, with respect to sex or gender, male and female? “Transgender,” as a condition, by choice, is illogical since it is neither male nor female, after sex change operation. The resulting person can not reproduce, which is a fundamental aspect and purpose of innate, sexual identification. That society should react negatively or reject, as illogical, inappropriate or, simply, wrong, the choices of people to defy innate, inherent realities is to discriminate logically based on fundamental truth. It is not wrong to have a perspective which is prejudiced by truth or which has a prejudice for truth. It is fundamentally logical to be prejudiced against the illogic of choices. If judges of the judicial system had no such prejudices, there would be no such thing as logic with respect to their decisions. It is, therefore, logical to demand that laws which are made embody the truth of innate and inherent reality which prejudice people to the truth rather than to some contrived, artificial falsehood without purpose or benefit. Respect for the natural order and obedience to the law, then, is a matter of cause-and-effect logic. The modern, negative connotations of “prejudice” and “discrimination” apply when people make illogical choices which create illogical, difference factors which people can not reconcile with either the law or the natural order. To be prejudiced to (or to be partial, or have a preference for) the affinity of sameness is a reality which is practiced by all peoples.
Great article. This clearly explains the election of Donald Trump!
Get the lawyers, etc out of the government and let it be run by the lay people who know what life is all about and how to live it for the middle and poor class. The rich have too much money to do nothing with. They should be sending millions to the areas destroyed by the hurricanes.
The people have become sheeple and we are about to be deservedly slaughtered – take it to the bank!
This is somewhat off topic , but it does reflect the lack of knowledge that some of our fellow citizens have.
This is going round the internet. If you agree , please help spread the word.
To all NFL fans … Call for a National boycott of the NFL for Sunday November 12th, Veteran’s Day weekend.
Boycott all NFL Football telecast, all ticket holders stay away from the games. Let them play to empty
stadiums. Pass this post to all your friends and family. Honor our military, some of whom come home with
the American Flag draped over their coffin. Continue with the weekly boycott of television. God bless the
U.S.A. !
America is home of some of the most embarrassing ignorant people on the planet. What a shame. Most countries I have traveled to are home to folks that KNOW their country make-up, pay very close attention to the political issues, unlike a lot a stupid, lazy, hedonistic people in the U.S. This is because they think their freedoms, their better lifestyle happens everywhere. Try living in, lets say, Iran or NK…
watchdogman,
Yeah, but we’re going to build a wall to keep more from coming.
No Norbert, I am referring to U.S. Born citizens that are so stupid they stumble through life thinking their life here is normal and a lot of them think they have it bad!!! Try living in Iran, Bosnia, Croatia, even places like the UK that do not have a Constitution, nor a bill of rights.
Makes one wonder what age group these survey was done on. Because the kids of today I find have not been taught civics or gov. and they don’t really know their history of America or the World. Every year I have found that the teaching of this has been lacking in so many area’s. I supported a runaway a few years ago and what they taught her was nothing what we grew up with. I think this was done by the elites or call them globalism that wanted to dumb down our children for the reason of making them zombies that they would do what ever the gov. wanted. and that i find disgusting and why i had the establishment and the liberal teachers who are doing this on purpose to our kids. Now we understand why they put their kids in private schools.!!!
This is because they stopped teaching civics in high school just as they no longer teach american history and want to stop teaching cursive writing. Soon we will have an entire population of people who know nothing and can t even sign their names but are happily smoking pot
Carolann Enkhaus,
Good point. I’ll have to revise my thinking and some of my statements. I had forgotten that some school systems (extent unknown) had stopped or reduced the teaching of many subjects that previous generations had considered essential. I’ll have to shut up until I find out exactly how far “progressive” education has taken root. I’ve been saying that bad, uneducable students and their parents were the problem, but now I see that the educational establishment is part of the problem. It’s a veritable “perfect storm.” So America may really be circling the drain.
“The tree is known by its fruits.” Ignorant and selfish parents grow the same fruits. This is the Result!
I do believe many Americans are ignorant of our gov. and our rights but this story is about attributing all this ignorance on liberals which is not true. It’s too bad Jay Leno or Jimmy Kimmel didn’t ask the people they interview out in the street what was their political affiliation to determine which is more ignorant the left or the right. I believe they are both equally ignorant.
When our elementary, secondary and higher education system stopped teaching civics and started teaching socialist doctrine, this is why no one understands patriotism, local, state and US government. Everyone has been dumbed down to being sheep to be herded around by the flaming liberials. As long as they expect someone to something to do everyething for them, with no personal responsibility on their part, it is welcome to the Socialist United States. Soon we will be culled and exterminated for not being useful to the leaders.
Thank the teachers unions for making our kids ignorant.
Richard,
“You can’t make a silk purse out of a pig’s ear.” The unspoken problem is with uneducable kids and their parents, and it is their “culture” that makes them that way. It will take a cultural revolution to do something about that, and there is no sign that that will ever take place. Yes, we need another “Great Awakening” but don’t hold your breath.
I am not surprised! Six of my eight Grandchildren are home schooled and the other two are in an old style country school.
but there isn’t one person out there that doesn’t know who our President is. even the illegals know. Trump is the most well known President ever. Obama was the most hated and Bush was the most laughed at along with Clinton.
It is pathetic! My bet is that most college students cannot tell you what year the Declaration of Independence was signed or even who we fought to gain independence. They talk about slavery and other social issues but probably cannot even identify when the civil war was fought.
Not surprising at all. We turned our education system over to a bunch of anti-American liberals, and now we’re paying the price.
To: Tony Barreda
Sir: Your language!
It is as repugnant as you and your Trump-bashing folks from the Left are
certifiably obnoxious, despicably repulsive and arrogantly predisposed!
Describing the President as such is
beyond the pale. Consider yourself lucky that you are here in the USA and allowed to continue to manifest your beliefs no matter how
detestable,
Civics was taught when I went to school. Not so now, by INTENT. If you do not know why America exists and what your natural rights are and whence they came, you’re easily convinced that gubmint is god, and you’re removed from the top of the food chain.
You libtards will only subdue me through force, and be warned – I will TEACH you the meaning of resistance.
I haven’t looked for the quiz, but just from what they were talking about here, I was taught that stuff in school overseas…..And yes it is very worrisome that so many can’t even mention one single one…What has happened,
America used to be a land full of people, who could invent and people, who could do all kinds of stuff, now it seems like everybody do NOT have any “umph” in them any more, or it seems like NOBODY cares anymore….What happened to our once great country??? Did it really get “dumbed down” that bad???
Drugs, including prescription drugs, are a factor for many.
Cause you can make millions playing football who needs to work. or know anything
More and more billions every year for the failed U.S. Department of (non) Education. Common sense reaction? ELIMINATE THE DEPARTMENT! Give the employees of the department early retirement, just stop them from spending our money and getting worse results every year. It would be cheaper in the long run. Give education back to the local school districts! The purpose of education has ALWAYS been, for 1,000s of years, to further the interests of the tribe, to teach the next generation the culture and values of the tribe, and how to maintain that culture, Our huge bureaucracy has done the opposite on each one of those tasks!
It is worse than just civics. I witnessed a middle aged women at the grocery store check out try and explain present tense verses past tense when a young checker miss spoke. Finally she looked at me and said scary isn’t it.
Not in ANY way surprised! The dumbing down of America started decades ago and has now reached a fever pitch. And it is all by design! Many saw it coming—few did anything to stop it!
And this is a surprise?,After45 years of liberal control by unions that are controlling Teachers, State and Federal workers, Police officers ,Highway patrolmen, Sheriffs deputies, and lower level tradesmen on the TAXPAYER’S DOLE. IS IT ANY WONDER?.
I am not surprised! Six of my eight Grandchildren are home schooled and the other two are in an old style country school.
Recently I encountered a 8 year long enlisted Marine who claimed he did not know the 3 branches of our government, nor did he know what each branch actually did. I broke it down for him as though he was still in first grade. Perhaps he was just fooling around, but I highly doubt it.
What real man would want another to do that. UGH. Statements like that makes me believe that you are doing it yourself on lunatic Trump.
“There’s no excuse for this kind of widespread ignorance, and my GOD, is it widespread!” Oh, but there is an excuse! It is the education system, the media’s insistence on the equality of diversity and the confusion of belief systems and values which are to inform everyone that no one is to be held to the standards of others. Non-discrimination is NOT a practicable exercise with respect to “true” or “false,” or “multiple choice” (in deference to diversity). If, in the interest of the equality of all individuals, we stop discriminating on the basis of a right answer and/or a wrong answer, we will not empower the individual who, for whatever reason, (especially, skin color) gets consistently wrong answers on tests, to be able to fulfill the requirements of the workaday world which involve more than the specific qualification of skin color, whether red, yellow, black, white, or variations resulting from commixture, scientific research notwithstanding. We have learned, in the course of a lifetime, that essence of being, as a fact of equality, is not valued as the information which qualifies it. It is the information of education which provides standards, adherence to which or accomplishment of which, enable equality and determine inequality.
Even more people are ignorant about Gods Word than the Constitution of this great nation. And that’s why the godless are taking control. Economy, Education, Politics and Religion. Tools for the godless to deceive the ignorant.
Students are learning from schools controlled by liberal unions and are more interested in brain washing our children!
Ignorant America: New Poll Shows We Know Nothing About Civics
Amazing isn’t it……………..one of them was even elected President………….imagine that!
Your of course talking about the black guy ?
Nope……………the orange one………
my you sure have a distorted view of what’s good
Last night while umpiring, a foul ball hit me flush in the mask. It knocked me silly and I fell back to the ground. I was dazed for about a minute and had to be helped up. When my mind cleared I thought what I had just experienced must be what liberals experience all the time.
First, we studied civics. Then some brilliant mind decided we needed, “social studies”, which would incorporate history and civics and “social studies”(whatever THAT is!). Civics then got pushed out as unimportant, and history became whatever a particular teacher thought was relevant to “teach”. As Social studies became the most focused on, the “social” really came to the forefront and the push was on. It’s my experience that anything that starts with the word “social”, can’t be a good thing – social programs, social security, social-ism, social miscreant, I guess you get my point.
This is one of the disturbing things of America. It is called The Dumbin down of America. Charlotte Iserbyt wrote a book on on this a few years back.I too are highly concerned that our adults and students are ignorant to anythphing about how our government works. why? The Common Core Curriculum actually brought up in the late 1920’s by the Rockefellers and Rothschilds. This is all part of the N,W.O. Plan. They want drones to do the work without questioning authority. It could not be brought in all at once because citizens would notice it. It has been gradually brought in so parents would not catch on. Now you see the results students and adults who know nothing about religion,our history,government , immigration, or our great legacy. You see those ignorant people who destroy our statues of historical value, but actually know nothing about the Civil Wa, the causes, the loss of life on both sides by our precious citizens, and the destruction of our nation. We are a blessed nation with our constitution and Declaration of Independence. In the 8th grade at school we had to learn the preamble to our constitution. The reason the Democrats who still run this nation and have their open door policy in immigration do not care about this history, destroying our monuements and destroying our religious values is all part of this satanic NWO agenda. They know dall this new immigration can care less for American legacy, heritage and sacrifices made by our founders. You see many radical blacks still preaching evils about the civil war but actually know very little about it. It has been over close to 150 years but we have to hear it over and over mostly from radicals who take from our government. Also the government wii not make immigrants learn English our natural language. Do you think the Muslim and other immigrants know anything about the Constitution or anything about our democratic republic form of government. You know the answer is no. The Democratic Party under the Clintons and the Obamas are trying to destroy our government and change it to Socialism, which dues not work in any nation. Again I am concerned about this dumbing down of America for this motive I have been speaking about. We are a doomed nation unless more patriots speak out about the Democrats socialist Agenda. One last thing you have probably seen Sanders speak on Medicaire for Everyone. This is another example of the ignorance of some America. FDR started Medicaire during the depression for 2 reasons disability f workers and retirement for citizens and later medical was added. Every worker pays a fica tax each week out of his check which goes into a fund to pay elgibles. Obama and his cronies have robbed this fund and given monies to illegials who he wants in her to insure the socialist agenda. Trillions of dollars have been taken. Hoe is Sanders going to pay for insurance on all these illegals. We cannot keep allowing immigration into the U.S.. Trump was called a racist last fall because he said this, by the same people I have said knows nothing about or laws. We have had immigration quotas for hundred years or more. Remember Ellis Island. Now Obama let them thru everywhere with no criminal or background checks. It is only going to get worse unless we get control of the immigration issue and get out of office these socialist democrats.
I’m not even certain that civics is being taught in every school…..although it should be mandatory. Maybe kids should have at least one civics class at every level (grade school, high school and college). The fact that Bernie Sanders, an avowed socialist, could garner one vote in the last democratic primary, shows just how far we’ve drifted in our lack of understanding of our system of government. Big Kudo’s to Dennis Prager and institutions like Hillsdale College who are committed to educating people in the U.S. about the importance of our constitution, bill of rights and system of government. They understand, better than most people, what our founding fathers intended for this country and how, if we continue to disregard the constitution in so many areas, we will be in real trouble.
I got 96 out of 100. Jim Berry and I have a commonality–I’m 80–we were taught civics.
we don’t teach civics cuz we haven’t been civil for 152 years. We teach and live (suffer) socialism 101.
It appears that nowadays the public school is an institution in which the ‘BLIND IS LEADING THE BLIND”, the perverted mindset along with just plain ignorance of many of its teachers literally sabotaging the development of today’s youth. The present-day perverted watered down pitifully ‘pablum’ excuse of a curriculum has succeeded in produced several generations of a brainwashed perverted citizenry.
Kosciusko, Mississippi H.S. Class of 1956, Mississippi State University Class of 1961
“Have you ever watched some idiot liberal espouse their views about the latest Donald Trump outrage…?”
Yes, and it’s almost as funny as watching some moronic right-winger, parroting Beck & Limbaugh.
It’s the fault of the Socialists. Or the Communists. Or George Soros. Or Obama and the Clintons. Or Big Bird and Bigfoot. Or Big Labor, but NEVER Big Business. And it’s CERTAINLY not the fault of the Military-Industrial Complex.
Joseph R. Davis,
You got that right, but I prefer “Arsenal of Democracy.”
The only thing that stops communism is a bullet!
Our education system stopped teaching American History and Civics in our schools which is totally ridiculous.
Unbelievable but very true. In 5 different schools in two states, my child was never offered a Civics course. No wonder people are clueless.
Do the school even teach civics education in school anymore no they teach on how to be a good stupid communist.
Being under-informed is the direct result of liberal teachers, and liberal professors, and liberal Department of Education (miseducation).
That’s the group that touted and imposed learning math by counting on fingers (New Math). That’s the group that has never read the Constitution even if, as some were required, they swore oaths to uphold it before they mis-taught it to conform to their socialist ideals.
Informed citizens are the bane of the liberal left
Damn you beat me 73 and took the 100 question quiz and got 96% did not look to see what questions I missed should have.
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I make up for thousands of others, but when I die, that knowledge will go into the ether.
Parents and grandparents who were educated before the schools became corrupt leftist sinkholes need to take over the school boards and state education agencies by running for office and getting the socialists out of there. Then they need to clean house on the socialist teachers and administrators who will not stop indoctrinating the young people of the nation. If you are retired and think this is a travesty, get off your rear and do something about it!
We can blame a lot of the flag problems on the LACK OF PATRIOTISM BEING TAUGHT IN OUR SCHOOLS.
We don’t teach geography anymore. Is it any wonder that most Americans don’t know the difference between Iran and Iraq. I taught for 45 years and my students studied maps. On Friday afternoon, movie time, we watched “Why We Fight,” at the end of November “Tora,Tora, Tora,”we even watched “1776.”
I only had one classroom rule, it was one word, “THINK.”
Hard to believe the IGNORANCE in this country. The STUPID are willing to give up the RIGHTS, LIBERTIES and the PROTECTIONS that are in the CONSTITUTION (including all the Amendments) without even knowing what they are!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A sad state of affairs! Maybe we ought to get employers to ask 20 basic Civics questions on employment applications to verify that the prospective employee is educated enough to pass a basic elementary school test.
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We need to vote out all the Socialistic, open borders, One World Order, Soros backed Democrats at the next election. And as soon as possible, get the Federal government out of education, and let the states get back to 4th grade and have them start teaching Civics.
As a person who has developed surveys, I would first say – why only 1,000? Next, what was the population surveyed? Next, how were the questions phrased? None of this was answered, Instead we are given an editorial, not a news story – big difference,
The educational system needs to get flushed after 8 yrs of Obama are kids aren’t getting taught, their being fed and ideology.
This is do dangerous.
Jeff Sessions and president Trump need to address this corrupt epidemic infused by the left.
Help our kids!!
Thx to the demonutz American youth been and is being dumbed down on a daily basis, instead of teaching history of this great Nation, or how our government is supposed to work, the teachers now days are teaching opinions, specifically their opinions, and that the fact that violence is ok when used against another who does not agree with you, i.e, Antifuk:)..the alt left, gender pandering, Safe spaces,Blm movement, and that again the only good opinion is their opinion, we’re not allowed to disagree and still get along, all whites are rascist don’t ya know and and this is where the breakdown of our once great nation begins and will eventually end!!
Believe me, I well and truly learned about Civics…..starting in the 6th grade in 1948. Every part of the federal government, our state government, and local government.
How
patently unfair of this conservative RAG to belittle the output of our wonderful
education system? Don’t the authors know that the study of Civics is anathema
to our liberal agenda?! Surely a detailed evaluation of such literary masterpieces
as “It Takes a Village” and “Heather Has Two Mommies”
trumps something as distasteful as (UGH!) Civics!
Reading all the comments has been VERY educational. I spell democrat DUMoRAT, or just plain DUMRAT. I am single & am on some of the dating sites. There are a fair number of misguided, repressive, Socialist, anti-American, anti-Constitution, compliant sheep women on these sites. American voters screwed up twice with BARACKASS OBAMAHOLE & HILLARYASS (KILLARYASS) CLINTONHOLE, plus reelecting all those other DUMRATS & we cannot forget all the RepublicRATS (RINO’s) that were reelected. Our middle, & high schools &
colleges & universities have poisoned the minds of many of these students. When Hillaryass Clintonhole graduated from Wellesley College (a conservative girls college) her graduation thesis was about the virtues ??? of SAUL ALUINSKY’S beliefs. Slick Willy was studying Socialism in (not sure which one now) Bulgaria, Romania, or Hungary. That should have told Americans what was coming their way. The DUMoRATic Party has swung so far left that they are really a group of traitors. People, read THE MONROE DOCTRINE, enacted Dec. 2, 1823. Ask yourself, does the DUMoRATic Party & islam constitute a threat to the Freedom, Liberty, & the CONSTITUTION,of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA??? “Give me 4 years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.”—Vladimir Lenin “Let me control the textbooks and I will control the state.” —-Adolf Hitler These are the credo of the DUMoRATic Party. Another quote, “Right is right even when everyone is against it; Wrong is wrong even when everyone is for it.” —William Penn Our Founding Fathers were great visionaries because they fought for these RIGHTS. It is up to us, the American citizens to CARRY ON & PROTECT their GREAT VISION. DUMRATS think otherwise. So, you DUMoRAT Party members, are you REAL AMERICANS, or are you a TRAITOR as THE MONROE DOCTRINE implies????
The leftists have nearly achieved their goals. They only need us older Americans with some sense of history to die, and its a done deal. Sad, the youth have no clue what they’re throwing away….
The Cloward-Piven Strategy:………….
Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people.
Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state
Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives. (Food, Housing, and Income)
Education – Take control of what people read and listen to us“ take control of what children learn in school.
Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.
Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
i also got 97%, and i am 77.
so we were TAUGHT when we went to school.
today the schools are turning out GOOD LITTLE COMMUNIST.
Shame on those people for wanting equal freedom for all, ( sarcasm ) for some of you
yep the SHAME OF IT ALL LOL.
yep
AMERICANS ARE IN POINT OF FACT “BLISSFULLY IGNORANT”. THOSE “ON THE STREET INTERVIEWS” REVEAL SO VIVIDLY. THE CURRICULUM THAT WE HAD IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS BACK IN THE 1940s and 1950s was great and that currently is an obamanation. Its no wonder Asians are generally have far superior IQs and intelligence and knowledge than do we. This is believe is due also to their WORK ETHIC and the education they see,
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On the other hand, the ‘deep state’ has hi-jacked the system, and we are no longer governed by the constitution. good luck
I didn’t think prayer was such a bad thing.
I’m not sure when the history, government structure and other pertinent topics relative to our country were reduced or discontinued in our school system. Ask anyone below the age of say 50 a question concerning the history geography or composition of our country and you will probably get a blank stare, unless the person is a naturalized citizen. I am also 76 and as a Navy brat attended 14 different schools before I graduated high school and the one thing they all had in common was teaching about this, my country.
Why are we OPPRESSING all these KNEELERS, we have people who can’t stand the American Flag because it represents OPPRESSION and they can’t say the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE because of OPPRESSION they don’t like our CIVIL WAR HISTORY and MOST OF THEM ARE LIVING ON THE PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL COMMIE DEMOCRAT NIGGRO WELFARE PLANTATION and they are OPPRESSED. Time for us to UNOPPRESS these DOWNTRODDENED PEOPLES and let them leave the USA and give them a free one way ticket to the country of their choice, when grade schoolers are kneeling because the little parasites are hurting we got to “LET THEM GO”.
The communist that teach your kids have been omitting and dumbing them down for decades . Why are you surprised part of the grand scheme.
When attending junior and senior high school in the 60: P.O.D.- Problems of Democracy and Civics were required studies. I remember our teacher speaking on the ills of Karl Marx, and his Communist Manifesto. Fewer students in the 60’s, fell for Marxist Ideology, during their college years, but these days instead of teaching History, the student is being taught the benefits of socialism and it’s Marxist Communist Ideology. Most Democrats today, are a product of this indoctrination into Marxist Ideology. As a result, our nation is well on it’s way to becoming a Socialist State. A social agenda promoted by the United Nations and it’s Global Communist Agenda. As an educator for some 30 years, I have seen the course of direction the Federal Govt. Has been taking.
Liberal Left Teachers have won — watch your schools and fix this!!!
Almost no one knows that Article 4, Section 4 mandates a republic or what that means. Most (including the writers of our dictionaries) think that a representative democracy (an evil form of government our founders despised) is wonderful and identical to a republic.
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