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Maryland Backs Off Sanctuary State Proposal
Posted On 11 Apr 2017
While the California legislature is moving full steam ahead towards turning the whole of their state into a “safe space” for illegal immigrants, their Democratic colleagues across the country in Maryland are backing down from a similar proposal. Lawmakers in the State Senate withdrew a bill this week that had already been criticized by the Trump administration and was headed for a veto on the governor’s desk anyway.
Known as the Maryland Law Enforcement and Governmental Trust Act, the bill would have prohibited police officers in the state from asking about a suspect’s immigration status during a stop and it would have made it illegal for jail officials to detain individuals beyond their scheduled release dates, regardless of requests from the feds.
Despite criticism, Democrats appeared ready to go forward with the bill until a 14-year-old girl was raped in the bathroom by two Montgomery Country high school students – at least one of whom was an illegal immigrant.
According to the Washington Times, that incident might have been the tipping point for moderate Democrats:
Maryland Republican Party Chairman Dirk D. Haire said the bill appeared to have started a “civil war” between the liberal and moderate Democrats in the legislature.
“Mainstream Democrats have been responsive to the message we’ve been sending, which is that sanctuary cities are dangerous,” Mr. Haire said.
He said the uproar over the rape at Rockville High School in Montgomery County highlighted residents’ concerns about sanctuary jurisdictions becoming a magnet for illegal immigrants who commit crimes.
“I think it had the effect of focusing on the fact that criminals are entering illegally and committing crimes,” Mr. Haire said. “It does point out that it’s not just peaceful or hardworking immigrants who are entering the country.”
Instead of going forward with the bill, Maryland Democrats are pursuing compromise legislation that would simply restrict how and when police officers can inquire about a person’s immigration status. But liberals in the legislature are unhappy, saying the bill doesn’t go any further than existing federal law, making it less about compromise and more about theater.
For months, the liberal media has wanted us to believe that President Trump’s anti-illegal immigration efforts would be met with an equal and opposite reaction from the fair-minded, big-hearted American public. No way would we stand by and watch Trump wage war on immigrants. How dare he! We’ll turn all of America into a sanctuary for illegals, dammit!
It ain’t happening. People are starting to wake up. Democrats in California, New York and a few other hotspots may have the luxury of turning their cities and states into “sanctuaries,” but outside of that bubble? Not so much.
The way to get civilians & elected officials to change minds is send illegals to their homes, telling owners they have to provide home, food, etc for the illegals.
Smart thinking Cheetah! I also agree with you!
Let’s
Say I break into your house!
A
lady wrote the best letter in the editorials in ages!
It explains things better
than all the baloney you hear on TV.
“Recently
large demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the
fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal
immigration.
Certain
people are angry that the US might protect its own borders, might make
it harder
to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely. Let me
see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests.
Let’s say I break into your house.
Let’s
say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave.
But I say, ‘No! I like it here. It’s better than my house. I’ve made all
the
beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors.
I’ve done all the things you don’t like to do. I’m hard-working and
honest (except for when I broke into your house).
According to the protesters:
You are required to let me stay in your house.
You are required to feed me.
You are required to add me to your family’s insurance plan.
You are required to educate my kids.
You are required to provide other benefits to me & to my family.
My husband will do all of your yard work because he is also hard-working and honest. (Except for that breaking in part).
If
you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who
will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my RIGHT to be
there. It’s
only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I’m
just trying to better myself.
I’m a hard-working and honest person, except for well, you know, I did break into your house.
And
what a deal it is for me! I live in your house, contributing only a
fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about
it without
being accused of cold, uncaring, selfish, prejudiced, and bigoted.
Oh yeah, and I DEMAND that you learn MY LANGUAGE! so that you can communicate with me.
Why can’t people see how ridiculous this is?
America is populated and governed by idiots.
This is just plain old hysteria – the idea of someone invading your home is so rare as to be almost non existent. My home has not been fully locked for years, and locks are only for people who want to not break windows and enter that way. If you look at the data on breaking and entering, most of it happens within an hour after the schools let out – kids, over 99% of whom are legals, breaking into a house to do something like play pool in the basement of a house – that was the last big one in my city – turned out that the ‘criminals’ were friends of the son of the owner, so they knew about the pool table, and their friend, the son of the owner came home late – after he finished his shift at the fast food place. The great damage done was that all of the snack foods were gone and the glass in the window had to be replaced. I look at most break ins as simply inconveniences to the person who lives in the home because most people are like me and don’t own much of anything worth stealing. My valuable possession is a grandfather clock, which only weighs about 175 pounds, so who in the hell is going to take that? I had a night intruder about 15 years ago, and my attack trained standard poodle just woke me up, so I got up, grabbed my glasses, and found a US citizen who was apparently high on drugs (he had pot on him when the cops caught him), I was standing there in my Jockey shorts, and my only available weapon was my 10 yo 7 pound cat, but when I got to the phone and called 911 he left, to be apprehended about a block away. He did his 6 months in the county jail, and apparently learned about the Make my Day law which would have allowed me to kill him. I have never found a pair of Jockey shorts with a holster, so I didn’t even have any type of firearm. In the Federal Prison system, only about 5% of the inmates who will be deported when they finish their sentences are illegals, and depending on the prison, most of these are not from S. of the Border, but from Europe or Asia or even Africa – with about 2/5 from S. of the Border, and most of these are in prisons W. of the MS.
The reason why this (lack of real) problem has gotten so far out of control is because our Congress has not changed the immigration laws in over the past 30 years. Before Reagan left office, he declared a conditional amnesty which required that the illegals pay a fine and work toward citizenship, but Congress did not change the laws at that time, and now there are so many that there is no practical solution other than doing the same as Reagan did, and Congress getting off its collective ass and changing the laws. With the exception of the very rare pure Native American, we are all immigrants or decendants of immigrants
Can’ they seem to find a better way to waste the taxpayer’s money?
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Are you being utterly serious????? You do realize this was a smaller example of the bigger picture, right?????
Oh please, please, please, tell me you’re joking.
Oh my word….I’m not even going to go through and analyze your post and say how wrong it is. I don’t have the strength.
First, on healthcare. Following its claims that all of ACA is worthless and even detrimental, the first attempt for repeal failed. One reason is that the areas that were benefited the most were the rural care for states that took the expanded medicaid, which is the primary funding source for rural care because of poverty. Rural Hospitals in States that did not take this money fearing later increases in taxes, had an epidemic of closings, while those that did take the money had a large expansion in rural healthcare. CO, now has 15 well staffed rural Hospitals with ER’s, if the money goes away, 13 of them will close next year – that is a failure to look at the consequences.
On immigration, the AGs of 26 states stopped the temporary amnesty on parents of children who were born in the US claiming that their citizens would suffer economic damage if these were allowed to stay. Today and illegal woman reported to the ICE place in Aurora CO, where they had learned that she had gotten a ticket for driving without a licence, so she is at the local detention center and her 4 kids, one of whom has ‘special needs’, are going to foster care for up to 11 years. It costs the taxpayers of CO a minimum of $2,000 per month to pay for foster care for a ‘normal’ kid. Did she really pose such a danger to the public safety over the 20 years she was in the US that she should be deported and the taxpayers of CO stuck with a $10K a month bill for raising her kids?
I took in a mom with 2 kids in foster care about 15 months ago, so she kicked meth, and is now on welfare, and her 2 15 year old twins – one with autism – out of foster care in livng in my basement apartment, for which the welfare pays $1K a month where the market rate on Craigslist is about twice that. Because of the housing shortage in N. CO, the resale price of my home of 70 years has doubled, but that is on paper and the tax rolls.
I have the Ph.D. in applied statistics, and if all I had looked at were what the bosses thought were positive things about their plans, there could have been some major disasteres. If my quality control system for the production of nuclear weapons had not been cautious in looking at the possiblity of a ‘criicality’ Denver might not have continued to exist; if I had not looked at the adverse consequences and even over estimated them – beyond the FDA standards – there might be more drugs like Vioxx on the market. The reason why I was a contractor/consultant was because I would not have my pension or job at stake for reporting the bad news.
What is not considered to be a problem by the people in power. The disparity in wealth and power in the US. A couple of years ago it was reported that this disparity was as great as it was in 1927. The reason for 1927 was that was the year that the US became primarily urban, and because of this became a society of money not trade and barter. The disparity now is even greater, a part of this was being solved by the ACA, but if Trump has his way, the money saved on ACA will go for more tax cuts to the wealthy, and an even higher national debt. If you look at societies going back 5,000 years, the primary cause of their failures was this type of disparity – that did in the Minoan’s, followed by Athens, then Rome, then was a leading factor in the French revolution and later the 1st Russian Revolution of 1917 – the popular revolution about the Nobility having to get bribes to buy weapons for their troops during WWI. The closest place that we have come to a popular revolution in this country so far, was the veterans bonus army going to DC in 1932 to demand that the bonuses be paid immediately rather than in 1944, when most would have been dead.
The new Denver VA Medical Center, approved about 20 years ago, has been stalled at 90% completion for two years; the VA no longer takes vet approval rate surveys; I only lost the sight in one eye to treatment delays, and with PTSD, have not seen a counselor since I lost this sight; Mike at the American Legion died about 2 years from his Nam related illness – agent orange related lukemia. There are homeless vets on the streets; those that are committing suicide at twice the rate of the non-vet population; those vets who are doing it the slow way with drugs and alcohol that will not be counted. What will happen this summer? Did you see the reactions from the people at the town halls to Republicans? I know how to tie a noose, who will bring the tree? Or will it be ‘off with their heads’ – we have no cake.
I’m not understanding why you are giving ME this information. My issue is your response to the comparison between an intruder in a private home with the illegal immigrants in the U.S.A.
The most usual time of day for a home intrusion (aka berglery) is between about 3 and 6 pm on M-T. The time that school is over for the day, and in almost 99% of the cases the students are US citizens who are sons, and sometimes daughters, of US citizens. The most of all home intrusions after dark are drug related, and also by US citizens. By leaving my doors unlocked even when no one is at home, anyone who walked up would be able to get in and probably leave because there is probably nothing of value that can be easily taken. My lap top is over 5 years old and has a cracked screen, so I am using a cable between it and my monitor. About 20 years ago a neighbor, one door removed, was drunk and having a fight with his wife and fired a couple of shots out of his pistol into the air, went back into the house and passed out. There were cops all over the place and according to the newspaper the day after, we were evacuated, but we were not informed of that until we got the paper. He and his wife were US citizens, and thanks to the NRA we have no law against being intoxicated with a firearm. He got 20 hours of community service and a fine for discharging a firearm in the city limits – the same that I would have gotten for shooting my bb gun.
2 blocks from my home of 70 years is ‘tortilla flats’ an area that has been primarily Latino for over 100 years, and over 10% of the city’s population is Latino, and because it is such a dull and boring place of about 100,000 a business that will employ over 500 will be starting their new factory next month. When I was growing up here, the population was about 5,000 and now we are also the Silicon Valley Annex and a sanctuary city, or rather a place where all of the churches are sanctuaries. I am a Quaker so by default, my home is also a meeting house that is open to all refugees.
All of this stuff about immigration, ISIS, the wall, etc. are just Red Herrings – distractions from the real problems that no one wants to talk about, the largest of which is the disparity in wealth and power. This has been a large factor in the fall of civilizations and societies for the past 5,000 years, which is usually accompanied by religious extremism. We are going to borrow another at least $400 Billion so that we can cut taxes on the 1% by the same amount over 10 years, plus the tax cut that that the same people will get from the repeal of the ACA. Can we borrow ourselves out of debt (I am a Liberal); Planned Parenthood will loose its Federal Funding because of the 3% of its income that go to abortions. Abortions are a cultural universal – found in all cultures and societies at some times; the Pope pissed off Yellow Hair and Boehner by saying that having an abortion is just like any other sin and should be forgiven; and the evil science has shown that about 10% of the population has at least some same sex tendencies. The suicide rate among teens has fallen since gay marriage became legal, but both the media and science are enemies of the people Nationalism, and tribalism usually lead to armed conflict. With the new Sec of Education, our tax money will go to private religious schools, where it was our public education system which made America great, so we are recruiting overseas for people who can come in with the new J visas because there are not enough US workers with the education that is required for the new jobs – free education beyond HS is evil.
Strength may or may not B the issue. Ability 2 think clearly about real-world facts obviously is.
To much pot for him.
“With the exception of the very rare pure Native American, we are all immigrants or decendants of immigrants”
Actually Native Americans are descendants of immigrants who came to America via the bridge that existed between Siberia and Alaska.
However, you are missing the point that the influx of ILLEGAL immigrants into the U.S. is destroying the U.S., because they are bringing in drugs, disease and criminals with them.
I knew a woman who was a flight attendant on the long haul between the US and China, and she said when the next pandemic comes, I may have brought it back from China. It was US citizens who brought the Zita virus back with them. We have a national history and a part of Article I that prohibits congress from making bills of attainter – holding all responsible for the actions of a few. My grandparents were the last horse thieves in the family, but did not get caught and sent to jail because the statute of limitation had run, and my dad’s generation were not punished for their criminal acts. Now, to avoid the expense of putting illegals in prison for violating the criminal law, they are being charged under the civil law. My grandmother, my father and I were all born in Colorado, so we are considered to be native to the states. The native Americans, may have several different points of origins, but, through ancestry, are now considered to be Native to the Country that is now the USA. My T shirt that shows native American leaders of the 19th century reads: “Fighting Terrorism since 1492”.
When I first went to Mexico in about 1948, we just walked across the border, did our shopping and came back. When I was in the USMC and stationed at Camp Pendleton we just drove across the border, bought booze and drank some, got laid if we wanted to and drove back with no total stops or searches, so why is it such a problem now. I went to Rocky Point, just S. of Yuma about 12 years, no hassle at the border, just the same as Canada when coming back in – a few questions from Immigration (30 secs), and went back to the RV park at Ajo, AZ. I cannot see any reason at all to panic and waste money with the round up and the great wall. I am trying to stay alive to see the building of the 2nd great wall across the Canadian Border to keep the ISIS subs out of the US. It makes about as much sense as what Yellow Hair wants to do. I am thinking seriously about taking my VA pension and my SS and moving to Mexico permanently because their people are much nicer than ours. 2/3 of the illegals come from Europe and Asia, so what to do there? There are probably more illegal Russians in federal pens than there are illegal Mexicans in the same places. The St. Lawrence seaway, which takes our grain out of Deluth, MN, crosses the border over 25 times, and there are only about 1 ICE officer per 10 linear miles on our N. Border. When I lived in Ft. Erie, Ont. and lake Erie was not frozen, he took his boat to the US, docked it, drove his US car to work, and he was a Frost Back – entered the US about 5 times a week with no problems. The problem that Canada had was drunks who owned property in the US coming over drunk in the evenings. They paid their fines and could not come back into Canada for up to 90 days.
This immigration and great wall BS, are just Red Herrings to distract us from the real problems that face the nation. These problems include a 25% poverty rate among kids below 18; not adequately funding the VA healthcare system, public education, and old-age poverty. My basement apt, which needs to be remodeled with a new kitchen, rents for more than the average person on Social Security gets every month, so the apparent solution, is to only raise these pensions by 3/10 of 1% last year, do away with food stamps, and the federal aid in heating, and then there is our growing opiate problem among the working class who voted for Yellow Hair and are gradually committing suicide by this drug and alcohol abuse. The answer is treatment not jail time, but there are not enough caregivers because of the high tuition and low wages.
“…and then there is our growing opiate problem among the working class
who voted for Yellow Hair and are gradually committing suicide by this
drug and alcohol abuse. The answer is treatment not jail time,…”
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
We need to prevent these illegal drugs (and diseases) and illegal aliens from coming across our borders.
Maybe the policies of “Yellow Hair” will help to do this.
You mentioned possibly moving to Mexico. I think this might be a good idea. I believe the poverty rate is higher than 25% there, and I don’t think their welfare system is all that good.
First, with drugs. I went to college in the 1960’s when pot was illegal in all states, but at the federal level, it was an IRS offense, which dated back to the first tax on tobacco, and essentially was a law that only effected the poor and minorities, who could not afford to smoke tobacco, so they smoked pot, which was as the name, ‘weed’ implies – it could be found growing in almost all rural areas, and was even intentionally planted by the RRs because of its root structure which held the soil on which the rails were placed in place so they would not wash out, but in 1972, we began the really really failed Federal ‘War on Drugs’, which, at the Federal Level was made a criminal offense. I saw this as just a repeat of the totally failed prohibition on alcohol of the 1920s. My grand mother made money as a bootlegger – she raise poultry on the farm, and so there was a lot of traffic in and out because there was no refrigeration. She just buried her alcohol money somewhere on the farm because if she showed that she had much more money than the sale of her chickens and turkeys would account for, she might get busted. This meant that a decade later, during the depression, she had the cash to buy foreclosed properties in town for additional legal income (money laundering), one of which she and my grandfather used in their old age as their home, while renting the farm. The idea is that if you can make alcohol in your bathtub, and you can grow pot in a pot in your house, you are not likely to get caught.
The difference was that with prohibition, the illegal alcohol was smuggled into the US, largely over the Great Lakes, and so the violence associated with the competition was here, where with pot and the other drugs that were made illegal, the greater part of the violence took place on the other side of the border. The original pot, which I began using much like having a beer, was really quite mild – low THC content, but where it was grown commercially – which was essentially distributed all over – by using the methods of regular agriculture – selective breeding – it increased to the point where, by about 1971, I could no longer smoke it directly, but if I went to a pot party, which were at all college campuses, I could get high on the 2nd hand smoke.
With this, people used it is various ways. Some apparently wanted to stay high all the time, while others just used it as they would beer or alcohol – something to use to relax after a busy day at school or the office, so while one group presented a problem, the much larger group really did not. My question then became why some people found it necessary to essentially overdose. Here, by observation, they seemed to think that their lives without it was too miserable, so what made them feel this way. In some cases, it was obviously situational. On college campuses the over use was by students who really did not want to be there – the would have rather been out driving a truck or something. At the U where I taught from 1969-71, they could have arrested about 90% of the student body at some time or other for at least possession. The law was obviously not doing what was intended – there were too many users to even consider enforcing the law – where do you put 15,000 people in jail? The 3 main bulk dealers in this mid-western town had agreed among themselves to divide the market – enough to be made for everyone – and also agreed not to bring in the stronger drugs, which eventually got there anyway, but in much smaller quantities. Now the larger society, with a few holdouts, have generally agreed that the use of small amounts, regardless of its illegality, if ok, but to go after the suppliers rather than the users. The trouble with the ‘harder’ drugs in the system, is that they are also more profitable, so if you find a street pot dealer, s/he might try giving samples of the more expensive and more profitable, and more habit forming or addictive ones away, just as Walmart might give away boxes of candy just to get you into the store.
Then we get to the opiates. With Oxycondone, and others we have been able to make artificial ones that have the same effects as the natural ones, so barring the door at the border will do no good. We also have trained chemists who could use a little extra income to make them, so they are as safe as the ones made by the pharm companies.
Again, the solution to the problem begins with the question of why people use them, and this is a matter for science, not law enforcement. If we could change the lives of the users so that they were not so miserable, then we could remove the need that they feel, and reduce their consumption. However, that would take money to fund the research, and the permission of the DEA to do the experiments (which we will never see), and the removal of the criminal sanctions so that the users would feel free to come forward and participate in the research and possibly seek treatment.
Here we get into the great moral arguments, where the moralist seem to have the most political power, and in the proposed budget, all of the funding for science is on the chopping block. I wanted to do research on pot even before the war on drugs began, but could not get either the permit required or the money.
One of the reasons that I see for the reduction in spending on all sciences is that if these projects are funded and the scientific results are accepted and the laws changed, the ‘old guard’ would find that their myths are no longer valid, and they would not re-elect those who did the funding.
If we were to just take all of the drugs in evidence lockers, send them to a pharm company so that they could assure purity and how much of the effective part is in the drug, and put them in constant doses in pills or tablet, and then distribute them to the pharmacies, to be sold at just enough profit for the pharmacy, that would take the profit motive out of the street drugs, and as they are bought, get the names of the buyers and give them something showing where they could get local treatment, it would remove the stigma from being a user, remove the profit center from the drug dealers and through outreach bring the users in for treatment. This would not work because of the great morality problem – if we do not punish we must condone, which is inconsistent with just recognizing the problem and trying to do something about it.
With Mexico, if I went there to live and took my VA pension and SS with me I would be able to do some investment in the villages, create small industries, and remove the incetive for those who could not make a living at home not to come to the US. Too good an idea to be considered practical here because I would personally make no profit – called socialism – turn the indudry over to the workers when they were ready.
Those that voted for Hillary are more likely drug and alcohol abusers
He is missing the point.
You are just another sick F N liberal A($$)hole.. Go bury yourself, apzzyk..
Most people do see how ridiculous it is to let people break our laws by letting them sneak into our country. If they break that law then they will feel emboldened to break other laws such as stealing SSN ids all with the objection that its okay because they work hard and want a better life.
NOBODY SHOULD BE ABOVE THE LAW
Excellent analogy!
Most of the American people are smart enough to get this, especially when you put it that way, but not the politicians in Calif. and New York! They represent the ultimate in liberal IDIOTS!
Could not have said it any better. Those that are against stopping this invasion still can not seem to understand the definition of illegal.
There’s some intelligent life on the Left?!? A living, breathing synapse that works?
Miracles never cease to amaze!
Good post Mark…..I agree 100%
Hope that President Trump keeps his promise to defund ANY sanctuary city that disobeys federal laws.
Am sure he will withhold whatever Fed funds that can legally be withheld. He’s been a man of his word continuing to fulfill campaign promises.
I personally do not want a man who does not know the full repercussions of what he has promised that is just plain stupid, doing something just to carry out his campaign promises. He promised to end the ACA and then transfer the savings into tax cuts for the wealthy. This would only kill thousands of people by depriving them of health care to the advantage of people who do not really need the money and can afford their own health care. What is the price of a human life? If it is the guys down the street it is minimal, but if it is yours there is no price that you would find acceptable.
Seriously/
PPACA provided these do nothings with NO better opportunity at healthcare than they had before! What PPACA gave them was an Insurance plan, however with the astronomical Co-Pays and Deductibles, they still, for all intents and purposes, had NO better chance at healthcare!
I am a 100% disabled vet – PTSD – and according to the government psychiatrist, if I were forced to work closely with others I would be a danger to them as well as myself in a conflict situation. How would you like to be in the same office as I? I am supposed to get all of my health care from the VA, but due to lack of funding, in the last 5 years I have lost the sight in one eye because of a 7 month treatment delay and waited for 2 years to get new dentures where the normal wait is no more than 4 months. My monetary pension is a part of the Fourteenth Amendment – just as much a right as free speech or a fair, public and speedy trial, but if Congress does not increase the debt limit by the end of the month, I do not get my pension or my Social Security – both earned benefits – NOT entitlements.
We are suffering from an overpopulation problem, particularly with the people who have no formal education beyond HS, and are importing labor on the special visas to do what US citizens could do if they had the educations, with the current tuition debts, I, who have the Ph.D., would not even bother starting. There was no GI bill while I was getting out of the USMC, but with the Nam era GI Bill that began the year I got my BS, 1966, I was able to go on with another set of jobs, and get the final degree with assistant ships paid by the USDA, which are going away.
I spent a year in Grad school in Canada, on a Canadian paid fellowship – their taxpayers money put to work, and for reasons beyond my control had to return to the US when the school year ended. If anyone, including immigrants, got ill, the Canadian Social Insurance paid the entire bill. For complex procedures it might take a little time if there was time available – there I would have gotten treatment for my eye the day that I reported it and would still be able to see. They have no private health insurance companies because they would want at least a 10% profit, and by making claim forms as complicated as possible, it costs as much to process the average claim as it costs for treatment.
I live in the highest growth rate place in the US – the Front Range of CO, the resale price of my home has about doubled in the last 2 or 3 years, and we have an employer who is beginning work on their new plant to open in two years to employ at least 500. Why here and not in the Rust Belt – nearly 40% of our adult population has at least a BS or BA. However, there are no places to live for those of more modest incomes. Last year I spent a whole $800 to put an electric line under ground into my small pasture, and that returns me $1,200/mo with me paying for the water and electricity, and could get more.
My general principle is that what works best at the lowest cost is the best for the people, but the attitude of those in power is that if it does not make a profit, it is worthless. It is also in my best interest to have healthy people around me I had one gf die while I was an undergrad for a do-it-yourself abortion (not my fault – prior bf), not funding Planned Parenthood would just make that happen more often, and I would rather that my tax money go for that rather than a great build up of the military or a great wall. We have legal recreational pot, and its use by people below 21 has decreased to about 5% from 25% before legalization – no adolescent rebellion value. Because I got my nearly free to me education, I probably paid twice the income taxes that my classmates without a BS paid, and I would have liked to have gotten to the 50% bracket but they did away with that – no incentive to me to make more money, but I tried to pass my education and excess (to me) cash to make the lives of others better. 15 years ago I paid about $1K for an MRI for a female I found wandering around town after her bf beat her head against the wall, and let her recover in my spare bedroom without taking advantage of her for a couple of months.
In the USMC, all of our jobs was to take care of, and protect other Marines, and those who did not have the capacity to take care of themselves. Wish the country would take the same view..
Sorry,, but as a two tour disabled Vietnam vet, I received the second cluster for my Purple in November of 1970. It ended my military career and nearly my life. I don’t recognize ptsd! You joined, you ask for it, you got it, put on your big boy pants, grow a pair, bury your dead and get on with it for pity sake!!!
F N Idiot……
Seems to be one of your hallmark responses, care to expand?
If you did 2 tours in Vietnam your a F N idiot.. I have PTSD and suffered years and almost died twice before the VA finally told me the truth.. Just by your actions and comment I can see you were a F N jarhead,, No brainer here..
Jimwolf, you have proven that you can’t make chicken salad out of chickenshit. Years of PTSD? I highly doubt it.
Not only are you a F N Jarhead, you are highly uneducated.. I was not aware you have any type of medical degree, especially with being a stupid F N grunt serving TWO YEARS in NAM..
Actually I do indeed have a medical degree and a professional license. I have seen numerous patients with PTSD, and I have also seen a number of malingering malcontents claiming to have PTSD.
I, too had ‘professional help’, in a manner of speaking. The first time I attempted to use that sniveling excuse for my continual foul ups with my father, who incidentally hit the beaches on June 6, 1944 , both he and my ex-father-in-law, himself a member of the ‘Devils Brigade’ and ex-German POW, rudely told me exactly how the cow ate the cabbage! That was the beginning, though not the immediate beginning, of my recovery!
Wrong! U. S. Army LRRP. 11th. ACV, Xaun Loc ’67’- ’68’. Americal, 23rd. Infantry, Chu Lai ’70’!
70? the war was over in 65 when I left and if you were there in 70 you were just policing up cigarette butts and the brass from our spent rounds. Class of 65 when crap was happening .
Right idiot! In the first decade of U.S. involvement in Vietnam from 1955 through 1965, only 2264 Americans were killed! During my first tour 18,000 were killed. 6000 more of us died during my second! If all of you were as stupid as you are, you probably did more damage to yourselves than the NVA did!
Thank you for your service Te. My husband is also a disabled Vietnam Vet.
Then why did my classmates that went in ’65 die there? We lost a number of our friends, so don’t tell me that Vietnam was over in ’65.
A lot of us fought —— we came home – made a living and are doing fine…..What’s your problem snowflake…..Sitting around THINKING about it and NOT MOVING ON !
STOP MAKING SENSE!!! Can’t U C that stuff doesn’t belong when they’re trying 2 RESTORE AMERICAN GLORY!!!?
(Actually you’re gracefully, “Punishing the bastids with wisdom.” More–please.:-)
Your right.
Who spreads these lies into your mind. I can not afford health care but I am opposed to ACA. It is not affordable for most. It goes up every year. If is putting our country so much debt we may never get out of it. Also my understanding is if you ever do pull yourself up and get out of poverty you will owe it all back to the government at your death ( no inheritance for your loved ones).
We need something that will work for all citizens not just the poor are lazy.
If you are expecting the private sector to provide health care through insurance for all, you can forget it. Insurance companies are in business for the profit – to collect premiums, not to pay claims, and that goes for all types of insurance. 10 years ago I had to try to drive my big motor home across a very rough place, and while I physically made it, enough damage was done to the structure of the motor home that the windshields both partially popped out and could not be refitted, so I had to drive it back from San Diego to Denver with the windshields held in with duct tape and it took over 2 years to get a claims adjuster to even come out and take a look at it, and then more run around, and the only reason I got any settlement at all was that I had taken it to a large truck repair place, and when the service manager met with the adjuster and told him what had happened and the adjuster gave him shit, there were about a dozen mechanics watching the exchange, and probably would have beaten the adjuster into mush if he had not agreed with their boss. I finally got less than half of the replacement value. The state legislature had may such complaints, so they passed a law that when insurance companies act in bad faith, their liability increases even over the policy limits. Health care insurance companies are the same, so the answer is a single payer system which insures all – the same as all of the other western industrialized countries – in other words socialized medicine, where all pay a little into the system on all of their income, since all get the same care, with no co-pays or deductables. I lived in Canada about 45 years ago and when my kid got the usual ear infections, she went to the closest doctor, got treatment, including a check up when she seemed to be well, all at no cost to me. We had entered the country only about 3 months before. The per capita health care costs for health care in Canada are less than half of ours and the treatment outcome is far better – they concentrate on preventive medicine which is less expensive than is curative medicine.
The people on the ACA and the Extended Medicaid are mostly the working poor – that is they have jobs, some of them part time or temporary, but generally do not have the education required for most full time jobs, and the jobs that they get are minimum wage or at least below a living wage – $30K a year, and these people also include the elderly who have never made enough to do any personal savings for retirement where the average SS payment is only about $1,200 per month, out of which they have to pay, up front, over $100 per month for minimum Medicare, which also has its co-pays. Before SS and Medicare (1966), the costs of taking care of elderly mom and dad fell back on their kids 100%, and that took money that was needed to raise their kids away from them, but with just SS that relieved the next generation of some expenses, and with Medicare, even more expenses of keeping mom and dad alive for as long as possible.
The Preamble begins with “We the People . . .”, and so the first obligation of the government, which is supposed to be of the people and a representative democracy, but has some severe flaws, not “We the oligarchs (we the wealthy)” which is becoming more and more the truth. In 1786, the cost of health care was a chicken, because medical training was essentially an apprenticeship – hands on training like a carpenter, where now, a doctor with a basic MD graduates with $500,000 in tuition debt. Student loans are guaranteed by the Federal Government so that the private lenders can make money with no risk, so if the government just forgave these loans over a 10 year period, the costs of medical care would drop by over 10% – but we can’t do that because it would hurt the free market. Which is more important to you, the free market or or your life and wellness? Then there is the cost of medicine – EpiPens were not the only ones that had big price increase with no additional investment required – there were over 500 prescription medications that at least doubled in price last year with no additional investment. In the past, when such price gouging took place Congress passes an excess profits tax so that anything over a reasonable profit of about 10% was taxed at 100% so there was no incentive to increase prices. If this kind of control was placed on them the cost of medical care would fall by about another 5%, but that would be a tax increase, which is a never over my dead body thing for congress. Then there is home care for those who can avoid the nursing home. I took care of my elderly father in exchange for room and board because I was injured, but better than he was for over 4 years, so we both lived on his $2,000/month income, out of which he saved about $200 ‘for his old age’ all the time until he died at 89. During the last 6 months of his life, his cost for the same things that I had done, was over $3,000/mo. About 90% of medicare money is spent on nursing home care, and for about 50% of those in nursing homes, if they had home care, they could live at home until their final year, where now most live at least 5 years after entering nursing homes. One part time with each patient home care giver could be paid $4,000 with benefits a month, and take care of 8 people at home, which would save the current health care system thousands more than the caregiver would be paid by SS or some other fund, which would bring down the costs of health care, but that would be ‘big gumment’, which we all know is horrible.
Yellow hair and I have a serious disagreement on when America was great before – he seems to think that it was in the 1800’s with the growth of the monopolies and trusts – pure capitalism, but without the competition or innovation because when you have a monopoly (EpiPen), there is no need to compete because there is no competition, and no need for innovation because your device works just fine, so you can increase the price to the point where it is way too high, but people have to have the product or die. Where I think that America started its period of greatness in about 1932, when the private sector did what was profitable, paying money not invested back into the economy to improve things, taxed up to 95%, which was used by the government for projects with no profit potential or simply too big for any company or group of countries. This brought us such things as large dams to hold water to stop or reduce seasonal floods with water for the dry times so that crops could be raised; paved highways so that products could be transported from where they were made or grown, to places where they would be consumed – and this was facilitated by the laws which protected organized labor from the whims of management and put them on an equal footing with collective bargaining which not only advocated for increased wages and benefits, but also for safer working conditions – guard rails along walk ways so that employees would not fall and be injured or killed (workers compensation), aided by the government by such evil things as OSHA which could impose fines (take away profits) if the private company did not follow safe practices for its workers, and because there were employers who always tried to find the line between the best practices for the workers and the least expensive (more profitable) conditions, this required a bigger government with more inspectors, where if there had been voluntary compliance, there would have been no need for big gumment., and this period of greatness ended with Supply Side economics, which relies on the erroneous assumptions of Adam Smith (c 1750) that industry would be self regulating and do the things that were best for all just because it was the best for all (when has that ever happened? The role of the government is to protect its people (including from the greed of Capitalism) in all ways not covered by the private sector at a reasonable cost. In Mexico, the cost for a year of their national health plan (the last time I heard – 5 years ago) was under $1,000 – for those who could afford it. Go to any border town, and you will find the first mile or so of the streets just totally lined with the offices of Doctors and Dentists – many of them educated by their country in the US – where the prices are fractions of what you would pay on this side of the border. Why?
U r full of BS! OBAMACARE WAS SETUP AS A BIG PONZI SCHEME SO THEY COULD PAYOFF INSURANCE COMPANIES – THEN BAIL INS CO OUT W/TAXPAYER $ – IN TURN INS CO WOULD DONATE IT ALL BACK TO THE DEMORAT PARTY
F N Idiot…..
If we took all of your brain cells and crammed them up a knats ass, they would rattle like a bb in a boxcar.
snowflake — go out and try to save the world and ya can start in the ME….
This happens to be the only world that we have and if we do not save it from greed, it will shrink even though Yellow Hair has an EO on his desk outlawing global warming.
Right on!
Most of the money that goes to all cities is payment in lieu of property taxes, so the federal buildings can get the same services, such as police and fire protection as anyone else who pays taxes. Look around for a Federal Fire Department in any of these cities and you will never find even one. So what happens when a Federal Building catches on fire and the fire department shows up only to keep the fire from spreading to adjacent buildings where taxes have been paid. Then there is the perpetual problem of someone who does not have a drivers licence or even liability insurance being pulled over by the locals, and taking off leading to a high speed chase, almost all of which lead to more destruction and death than it would if they just faced a ticket for having a broken tail light or something really minor. If the locals would enforce the immigration laws then the danger for everyone would increase. Last week a man in Ft. Collins who had a warrant out for failure to appear, took a cab, shot the cab driver who survived, car jacked another car, led the cops on a high speed chase which ended when he broadsided a car carrying a mom and her two kids who she was taking to school. The locals could have caught this guy by just waiting until he didn’t have access to any way of fleeing. Only a very very few illegals actually pose any danger to anyone under the current separation system, but if the locals started trying to help the feds to catch illegals, the risk to the general population would increase dramatically.
When they are taken, they are lost. No changing their mind to get “back pay”.
…………defund “sanctuary cities?” Ooooooooh scary stuff………NOT!
Come on AG Sessions, …that is sooooo lame!!
Arrest all the treasonous sanctuary city fathers now! …Why? because it is the law!!!
The Law Against Hiring or Harboring Illegal Aliens
fairus.org/issue/the-law-against-hiring-or-harboring-illegal-aliens
8 U.S. Code § 1324a – Unlawful employment of aliens
law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324a
The following is an overview of federal law on hiring and harboring illegal aliens. It is not a substitute for professional legal counsel in specific situations.
Summary
A person (including a group of persons, business, organization or local government) commits a federal felony when he:
assists an alien whom he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him to obtain employment,
encourages that alien to remain in the U.S., by referring him to an employer, by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.
Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime.
Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.
>> Even AG Sessions should know this! So W T F is he doing?
Yesterday, a mother of 4 US citizens who had been in the US with only a ticket for driving without a licence (I have not had one for over 10 years, and still drive as necessary) got deported. The cost to the people of CO for fostering her 4 kids until they reach 18 will be about $10,000/mo. Send your contributions to Arapaho County Social Services in Aurora CO. In other words, put your money where your mouth is! If all of the illegal parents of US kids were deported the bill for fostering their US citizen kids would double the national debt each year, or make it 4 times as large since for each dollar in social welfare, the Feds must give the rich $3.00. The Koch Bros, in Waste Management is probably the largest employers of illegals in the US. Illegals tend to find work that US citizens will not take because of the low wages and shitty working conditions – check the killing floor at your local packing house or poultry processing plant. Even though the CEO of United Airlines has a Hispanic name, he is a citizen.
Keep illegal alien families together. Deport them all, citizens or not!
If I recall correctly, those children born to illegal parents have a dual citizenship, so can easily return to Mexico with the parent that is being deported. We need to get rid of the anchor baby law and situation which MUST end. Anchor Baby does not only apply to Mexican illegals coming here, but people who fly into the US from numerous countries and have their babies here while on “vacation” tend to exercise the law to their benefit.
The US has never recognized dual citizenship, it has always been an all or nothing in our law, and the reason for the 14th Amendment clause on that was that there were many slaves who had been brought to the US from Africa who had children born here. Israel made all Jews citizens of it no matter where they were, but if all actually went there at the same time, they would be packed in like sardines. So far as I know, only the ones who are actually in Israel at the time of a vote can vote, while US citizens can become ex-pats and live wherever they choose and still vote in our elections, and this explains why the final count is not announced until about a month after the election. In checking the birth records which have to show the parents places of birth, ‘anchor’ babies from the S. are so rare as to be almost non existent – just a distraction and source of panic used by Yellow Hair during the campaign with no data to support it.
“…….the whole of their state into a “safe space” for illegal immigrants…..’, there is just one problem with the notion of “sanctuary cities” and it is this. The entire country of the United States is, by specific, enumerated purposes in the Preamble to the Constitution, a “sanctuary country” for the citizens OF the United States whose ancestors, or who, themselves, sought and seek the legal protections, specifically, the “security of the blessings of life” for which the law of the land, the Constitution, was written and adopted and ordained for the United States of America. To bypass the due process of law and live as an alien, having entered illegally and unable to be protected by, or to pay for the protections accorded to citizens, is to deny the reason and purpose for law by disobedience to it. It is that simple. There are safe spaces for illegal aliens, it is their homelands. We have safe spaces for citizen criminals, it is called jail or prison. There is no logical reason why we, American citizens, should have to pay to feed, clothe and house illegal aliens whose home countries can do the same at far less cost. Liberals need to wise up and realize that giving freedom and opportunity to someone who does not honor the laws which protect it is, entirely, unacceptable. Actually, much of what liberals support involves costs and consequences for behaviors which are injurious to others, based on the concept of values. It is time for them to
change or go to the countries from which illegal aliens emigrate and educate the governments and peoples of those countries so that the United States does not have to become as they are, a cause and reason to emigrate.
Oooh, nicely stated and aptly put!! Thank you.
One reason the Democrats want them is to put them on the voters list and they will usually vote Democrat. Does not matter to them if they are illegal they still will try to get them on the list.
Your absolutely correct and while there at it they can pay an attorney to obtain them a GREEN CARD so the “poor immigrants can work here all they want. LEGALLY! That should make everyone HAPPY!
i have bin saying that for years , make these idiots take them into their own homes and provide for them , all liberals love to spend everyone elses money but not their own, tax payers should not be on the hook for any illegals or refugees, just look at the country , it’s filled with refugees or foreigners running businesses , ,where do they get the money to start these business,
THAT’s a good question I’d like to know!!! Then too, they’re all driving fairly new vans, honking hugh NEW pickup trucks, and newer model cars than I’m driving. Where the he|| do they get that kind of money/credit to afford these luxury vehicles? These are the very same people you see walking out to these vehicles after standing in line at the grocery store paying for their food with EBT cards.
doesn’t that just piss you off , it does me, i have to watch every penny i spend and they have money to burn, but if what i read is true ,on the plane here , they sign them up for ssi and all kind of other benefits, they are given money and even a passport
Believe me, in the end, those who are signing these foreigners up, they are GUILTY of theft, as are the foreigners themselves. “Thou shalt NOT steal” saith the Lord, is ONE of Ten Commandments the Lord God gave to Moses for humanity to live by. HE did not change HIS mind before, HE does not change HIS mind today, and HE won’t be changing HIS mind in the future. These people are GUILTY OF STEALING our money to bring foreigners in illegally, all for the sake of their illegal vote for the democrat party!
Both the illegal foreigners AND those who are complicit in their being here, WILL PAY DEARLY in the end!!!
just like they always leave out the words legal and illegal from the topic of immigration, we are a country of legal immigrants , not illegal ones
Frankie-as it should be.
You can’t afford to buy one of those new vehicles because you are paying rediculous amounts of taxes so that those illegals get their free govt housing, free govt food stamps, free govt healthcare, free govt lawyers, free govt education, free ….. Well you get the message! You can’t afford to buy it for yourself because you were forced to buy it for the illegals! But you can look at their new vehicle and dream of having one for yourself.
Ain’t THAT the truth!!
And the government still wants the legal taxpayer to pay more taxes to support the illegals.
Yes and I have seen many on a average with three or more small kids and sometimes another on the way. The cart would be full to the rim . Each kid means more money .
The American taxpayers is where the trashy sleaze balls get their money. The USA is being used by every country and the BS has to stop. President Trump is trying his best to correct the problems that the obama admin, the demorats and the reflub rino’s have created.
Smart thinking, Maryland. The problem is huge enough already without individual blundering states adding to the mess in the name of political correctness.
Just dreamers bringing their culture to America. Come on Maryland protect them as you would any criminal element.
If you live in the state of Maryland , you can’t walk out your front door without having hip boots on to fend off the Liberal/socialist BS . Maryland, the state known for the National Anthem and the American flag should lean so far to the left is just SURREAL !
Good for MD.
Even this Progressives know a stunt like this will kill their treasured power seats…
sanctuary cities serve no purpose to American citizens only to those that don’t belong here. The democrats are not recruiting Americans with this only looking to recruit more democrats for their party. That not only sounds stupid and wrong it is. I can choose which party I want or be an independent and that’s what Americans have the right to do these people are not Americans and must leave.
Is that who these Liberals in Maryland are? They have EXPOSED for who they are and that they don’t give a damn about what happens to their citizens at the hands of people who shouldn’t even be there!! They want to protect the scum more than innocent victims? That this “Protect the Illegals” bill was even discussed is telling and it shows why we must enforce the current laws on the books. Thank God for AG Sessions, he will do the right thing!!
So the idiot Dems don’t want police investigating crimes committed by illegal criminals. Guess they can’t ask if they have a weapon, or what they are doing. Maybe make it a felony for the cops to even look the illegal in the eyes. Start locking up the police for “intimidation” for looking at illegals. No patting them down for weapons or other illegal items. Sound good to you liberal commie Dems? I mean, what could go wrong by leaving illegals run wild in your state. After all, it’s not like illegals are raping young school girls. Oh, wait!
The American people and taxpayers are against sanctuary cities. It is only the liberal loonies that support this. I support Trump in defunding sanctuary jurisdictions in the country.
Go Trump!!!
Not allowing sanctuary cities wouldn’t be fair for the Demorats elections there are only so many dead people that they have to vote.
Sanctuary Cities are a slap in the face to U.S. Citizens. It demonstrates a complete lack of DISRESPECT for our safety. Any leader who proposes that illegals should be protected and that we should just concede, should be put OUT OF LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, no if’s, ands, or buts about it. The word ‘illegal’ is just that, ILLEGAL. Arrest them. (if we want to show compassion to them, we should teach them how to make their own country as great as the U.S.A. Send them back across the border with an info packet. ) Children need discipline measures to ensure they grow up to be responsible people; employees need discipline to ensure the company is operated well, and apparently Illegals need discipline-we should not CAVE to them.
WE have the right to be protected, the illegals have ZERO citizenship rights. It will be a crazy thing, if we have to protect ourselves because our government won’t. So it’s in the best interest of EVERYONE to uphold and enforce our laws.
There should not be any sanctuary states or cities. Follow the law of the land. Hope Trump will continue to do what is necessary to protect the American people from criminal illegals. Wait until some member of Congress or high celebrity has a child raped or murdered, then things will surely change.
Donna your right it has to affect their family before the politicians will act and then ask why did this happen.
Come on u no they dont want to loose any taxpayer money called FEDERAL FUNDING!
Funny how Quickly things can Change when REALITY of Losing Federal dollars for BREAKING US laws ( Which says ” criminals SHALL be deported not May not be deported) brings some of these “TOOLS” to REALITY!!
Dade County (Fl) >>> the State of Maryland>>>>>NEXT ?
Liberals need to wake up and fave facts. Not all illegals are deserving and you can’t distinguish the good from bad. All have broken our laws and must go.
Not one damn dime to these anti American communist states that provide sanctuary to criminal illegal invaders. Every single cent of federal money should be cut off, to include no assistance in the event of disasters.
We don’t want them here and what part of that don’t the democrats understand.
Hmmmm – WHY save the taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars by getting rid of illegals ? CA is suing to keep taking federal dollars and is broke BUT they still can afford to give Pelosi tens of millions when she asks for it –
read in the paper yesterday an old lady called the police and told them to come to her house because a republican was on her front porch jerking off. The cop asked her how do you know he’s a republican? the old lady replied because if he was a democrat he would be screwing somebody.
Maryland will be stupid if they adopt the policy of a sanctuary state. Any worthwhile addition to the population should come forward in the correct and legal way and earn their citizenship. Any other way will cause problems to your state and country.
This is from another news website and it shows WHY we should NOT let them stay:
Two migrants have been given sentences of three and two-and-a-half
years for beating a young man almost to death before violently raping
his female friend. The government will try to deport only one of them,
temporarily.
The Freie Zeiten reports
that three teenage girls and one male friend met for a party at an
apartment in Kista, near Stockholm, citing Solna District Court documents.
One of the girls invited a 21-year-old migrant from Liberia,
Richelieu Jarara, with whom she was acquainted. This man brought another
African migrant, a Kenyan named Fayed Mwangi, with him.
Before long, the migrants began sexually harassing the girls. Matters
quickly escalated from there, with the pair conferring briefly before
spraying their friend in the face with pepper spray.
The Freie Zeiten describes how they then beat and kicked the
man with “brutal force”, leaving him with “multiple cerebral
haemorrhages, severe swelling and bruises all over his body, as well as
bone fractures and open wounds”.
The three girls, as well as the attackers, thought the young man had
been beaten to death, with Jarara actually uploading a video to Snapchat
in which he made light of having “killed a guy”.
He was, in fact, still alive, but unconscious and permanently brain damaged.
Jarara’s younger companion, 19-year-old Mwangi, is said to have
“strangled” one of the girls when she tried to intervene, slamming her
into a wall and “hurling” her to the floor.
The Kenyan then grabbed another of the girls by the hair, dragged her
into the bedroom and raped her. She was also strangled, with the Kenyan
threatening to strike her if she screamed.
The ordeal was finally brought to an end when a neighbour burst into the apartment, allowing the girls to flee.
According to the Fria Tider, the court sentenced Mwangi
to just two-and-a-half years for his crimes, despite his having raped
another woman in May 2016. The government will attempt to deport him
afterwards – although he will be allowed to return to the country after
ten years, and judges have prevented other
European countries, such as the United Kingdom, from following through
on deporting criminal migrants after their sentences in the past.
Jarara, who has a string of previous convictions for crimes including
theft, serious bodily injury, and resisting arrest, was given a
slightly longer sentence – three years – but he will not be deported.
Calif. and New York are the DUMBEST states in the country, and they will probably choose to harbor illegals, pay a lot of money to keep them, and lose federal funding. Those two states are DUMB enough to do that, but most other states are smarter than that!
If the issue went to a vote in CA, it would loose by a good 77% to 33% as even the legal Hispanic population is against it. I know I would be the first to get my ballot in and vote NO! This is a question of how you are using taxpayer monies and I believe that anything this drastic should require a vote of the taxpayers! If we cannot vote on it, then we should be able to legally withhold out tax dollars by the percentage that goes to support the violation of Federal Law! If you eliminated the expenses paid by the taxpayer to support illegals (food, housing medical, jail, etc.) in the State of CA, we would have a surplus and would be able to lower all taxes on residents instead of continuously increasing them everytime they find a new cause to support. Gas tax is going up to 12 cents per gallon plus $25-$175 per car registration, there is a $2 per pack tax on cigarettes that is not designated for anything, sales tax is now 9% in most of the state with one of the increases being a need for an increase as the State budget was short and then they found they had the money right after liberals voted for the increase, counties keep adding their own 1/4 to 1/2% when they need money for something that the State is not providing, and then we all pay State Taxes on top of it. Government and taxes are out of control already, there are more people on assistance than paying taxes in CA, businesses are leaving for greener pastures because of the regulations and taxes placed on them in CA, and now we should give up Federal funds so residents can suffer to support people who are here illegally? Nuts! I am seriously considering moving out of state so that I no longer have to contribute to irrational thinking and a losing proposition.
I also question how Law Enforcement can justify taking an oath to enforce the laws and then only selectively support them at one level and ignore those at the Federal level. Call me dumb I guess, but I cannot process the rationale in any matter that makes sense or that I can support.
I’ve read many of the posts here, and most of you get it. To those of you who still think that we should allow illegals into the country, I would say just this. Do some research on MS-13, especially if you don’t even know who they are! The liberal media will not tell you about them, not even after they have robbed, raped, and brutally murdered you. Find out about MS-13, and then tell me that we should allow them into the country, which we have been doing, and there are now thousands of them in the U.S.!
MS-13 is one of the most brutal gangs out there. Your right Susan people need to read and learn how bad they are.
Too bad things have to be this drastic before people wake up to facts.
Maybe OBama-Was right-Are Americans-Just Stupid???Why would any place-City-Small are Large-Want to Protect Illegal immagrants???Shouldnt your loyalties be to American Citizens.I don’t think we want any more RAPES and Sick of Crimes.Frankly I don’t care if you’re A Republican are Democrate-“We the People”-Want them GONE.!!!!
I hope the voters remember these anti-Americans during the next elections.
Keep praying for our President and new administration.