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Muslims Now Trying to Deny the Truth About 9/11
Posted On 07 Sep 2016
It was only a matter of time before we got to this point. Through some form of liberal alchemy, a strange thing has happened in the 15 years since Osama Bin Laden’s goons hijacked four American airplanes and sent 3,000 people to their graves. Somewhere along the line, we decided (or, at least, we were told) that the true victims of 9/11 were not the people doing business at the World Trade Center, not the first-responders, not the passengers on those doomed jets, and not the individuals working at the Pentagon. No, the true victims of that day were Muslims.
To avoid furthering the damage, Barack Obama and other liberals have diligently avoided using terms like “Islamic terrorism” to describe terrorist acts carried out in the name of Islam. Democrats haven’t quite settled on a universal alternative term for this phenomenon; they seem to enjoy “violent extremism,” though. Other possibilities include “religious extremism,” “domestic terrorism,” and, in a pinch, “workplace violence.” And, on the rarest of occasions, backed up against the wall, they will sigh audibly and use the phrase of last resort: Islamist terrorism. We’re to believe that this small adjustment is very meaningful.
Now, we’re apparently supposed to adopt this political correctness as it pertains to September 11th. That’s what Donald Castelluci, the city manager of Owego, New York, discovered when he designed a new memorial commemorating the lives lost on that tragic day. The inscription on the memorial reads:
“On September 11, 2001 nineteen Islamic terrorists unsuspectedly boarded four airliners departing east coast airports to hijack the planes and carry out a series of coordinated attacks against the United States. This is a tribute to all the lives lost that day and to the heroic sacrifice of all who rushed to help. As Americans, we honor their memory by living our lives in freedom. We will never forget.”
But the Islamic Organization of the Southern Tier, which operates out of a nearby town, told Castelluci that…well…there was one thing they would like Americans to forget, if it wasn’t too much trouble.
“They want us to change the word from ‘Islamic Terrorist’ to either ‘terrorist’ or ‘Al Qaeda terrorist,'” Castelluci said in an interview with Todd Starnes of Fox News. “I sent them back an email saying I disagreed with their premise 100 percent.”
As far as we know, memorials are meant to help people remember. If we’ve gotten to the point where we’re going to start using them as a platform for liberal propaganda, we might as well let people forget. History is only important insofar as it teaches us how to best live in the present. If we fictionalize it, those lessons will be lost.
By now, I’ Think we all know by now that 9/11. was a red flag just like New town, Think about the fireball when Atta flew in to the W.T.C.. Tower, But one FBI. Agent Find Attas walet, and passport in the rubles with out a burn mark, Soposedly Atta was fried in the plain, but not hes passport.?. 2. years lather a Sweedish journalist Interweved Atta in Cairo Egypt living high on the hog of hes pay off, If all hijackers was Saudies, why did bush attack Iraq.? And nobama did not kill Bin ladin, He dyed 6. months earlier of kidney feliur reported by hes doctor, in witch got killed by the CIA, and blamed it on the Pakies. V.P.Baiden reported on national TV, date and time, from and to about the chopper flight with seal team 6. Al kaida blew them out of the air, killed everybody. And then 3 guys claiming they was a part of seal team 6. and they all claim to have been the one that killen Ben Ladin.?. Nobama was in need of a fether in hes hat, the election of hes 2.nd term was coming up. But guess we all has been used to hes lies by now.
I will kindly assume that English is not your first language. Even so, I do think that you should be able to spell non-language specific names like Biden and Al Qaeda.
W Bush, Dyk Cheney et. al., should be in prison for staging the 9/11 “False Flag” attack.
9/11 Pentagon Attack – Behind the Smoke Curtain – Barbara Honegger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fvJ8nFa5Qk
ISLAMIC TERRORIST IS WHAT THEY WERE,AND ISLAMIC TERRORIST IS WHAT THEY ARE. NO MATTER WHAT THEY TRY TO DO TO CHANGE THE FACTS,THEY WILL ALWAYS BE IN THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF AMERICANS THAT WE WERE ATTACKED BY THE LOWEST FORM OF LIFE ON EARTH. THE BASTARDS FROM ISLAM!
What happened on 9/11 was awful by any standards. And, yes (despite the comments below) it was carried out by terrorists who were Muslims. But I have to agree with the Islamic Organization of the Southern Tier, that including the phrase “Islamic terrorists” on the memorial is inflammatory and stigmatizes the billion plus Muslims who are not terrorists.
You need to do more studying of the Muslin religion. Islam is full of hate and they do not share our values. They will change our country to Sharia law and you will become a 2nd class citizen. That’s their plan.
Although I am wrong to do so, I assume that you are a Christian. And probably a Republican. If I am correct, you have no right to say that Islam is full of hate because you represent two of the most hate-filled groups that I know. I’m not even sure what your “values” are.
For what it’s worth, I live in the Southern Tier of New York and I have met several members of the Islamic Organization. My husband lived and worked for a total of ten years in Libya, Iran and Afghanistan. I toured Iran for 16 days and spent two weeks in Bangladesh as the guest of a Muslim family. Our combined experiences show that people are people. Some are nasty, the majority are good.
Read their Curan. Then you will see exactly what their “struggle” is about and it is not what you feel at all. Just because not all of them commit the slaughters does not mean that they do not adhere to it; if they did not then they can not be a muslim per their book commands.
Read your bible.
Have and still do. I’ve also checked into what all the hubbla is about and read their quran an it is eye opening to say the least. You say your a Christian and speak the way you do? I dare you to check into their book and see the truth of their “struggle” and that is what they call it, their “struggle” because it is a generational war against the whole world and any who do not convert and believe as them.
I don’t understand how the email notification that I receive says one thing and the online comment says another!!!!
You have apparently removed this bit: ” You say your a Christian and speak the way you do?” That’s a pity, because I challenge you to show me where I said I was a Christian.
The “speak as I do” is normally quite scathing about any religion.
so what about the actual comment and question? would you even check the quran out yourself to see what is said in it? ((and yes by the way; since I rechecked and saw that you were picking on another assuming they were Christian threw me off so I deleted that one sentence since it was not true))
Kim, I think that we agree on quite a lot. But I am not going to take the time to read the Koran. Nor the Bible.
I strongly disapprove of any system, religious or political, that expects its adherents to follow blindly the tenets of their faith.
By not seeing where the followers of the quran stand and what it is they follow that gets them to do the things that they do; makes it a very blind and ignorant person that would take up for them.
Obama loves you, Elizabeth! You are the sort of person who believes his lies, and wishes the rest of our country would follow in your steps. Too bad for Obama!
Yet you waste space in comment sections on material you are unfamiliar with. Go LIZ I really think your husband needs to get another job overseas, you will not be happy when DJT is sworn in as our next POTUS
My husband will not be getting any more jobs anywhere. He died three years ago. and, no, I will not be happy if DJT should be sworn in as out next president.
(Which material am I unfamiliar with?)
” But I am not going to take the time to read the Koran. Nor the Bible.” You say you haven’t read the bible or the Kuran so how are you familiar with either?
I have not watched a single episode of Star Trek but I could probably pass a pop quiz on the subject.
Not too arrogant….
I have heard many definitions/accusations of arrogance, but never a knowledge of Star Trek as the defining feature.
Perhaps you did not realize that I was saying it is possible to know a lot about a topic without having read the original source.
How about the English language you mangle.
You are obviously trying to push my buttons. But I will not rise to the bait. I do not need to as I am arrogantly confident about my superior command of the English language. Hell, I’m even quite good in American, that poor substitute for the real thing.
Glad you think you are ‘good in American’That is how a foreigner who learned English later in life speaks. So shove off to England and chat up the Brits via the Kings English. Thou art a bore Mz.Whitehouse. I deactivated my reply notifications specifically due to your replies. Beam me up Scottie the loonie Liz is a nuisance, self proclaimed know it all
While Her Majesty remains on the throne, it is the Queen’s English.
Actually Americans almost universally use good inappropriately in many situations. I was just trying to one of the guys, as it were.
And, you know, you can always stop responding! (My notifications are still on)
Absolutely! TRUMP 2016!
what do you believe in? you poor soul…..I will pray for you
Pray for me if it makes you feel better. But I do not need, or indeed want, your prayers.
I “believe” in nothing. Or, put another way, I do not believe in anything. Belief implies uncertainty: I believe in a god but I’m not absolutely certain what that means.
I do not believe. I know. I know that the millions of species alive today evolved from other species, and that ,sooner or later, they will become extinct to be replaced by others. Humans have developed the ability to change their environment to suit their own needs and therefore have a greater chance of surviving. But I wouldn’t count on it as we are also destroying our environment.
Well Elizabeth…like it or not I will pray for your soul. You just don’t know you need it. How can you say you believe in a God but not be certain what that means? That is a contradiction. Yes we have changed over the years to suit our environment. However let me ask you this…people say “evolution” BUT who created that first living cell? I choose to believe in God and Heaven rather than not believe and end up in hell with satin….
It does get complicated following all the different posts, but I can assure you that I NEVER, EVER said that I believe in a god. What I did say was an example of the uncertainty that believers feel towards their god whatever form that may take.
And of course it is a contradiction. That is why you need to believe. And find all sorts of explanations to cover the contradictions that occur in all religions. “God moves in mysterious ways” covers a lot, but it is hardly an explanation.
There is increasing evidence that the first living cell created itself, but we can say that it was god, if you like. Then what did he do?
Elizabeth…I copied and pasted this from one of your replies. Elizabeth Whitehouse Jeannie • 14 hours ago
Pray for me if it makes you feel better. But I do not need, or indeed want, your prayers.
I “believe” in nothing. Or, put another way, I do not believe in anything. Belief implies uncertainty: I believe in a god but I’m not absolutely certain what that means.
Yes. I wrote that and perhaps I was not quite clear. Instead of the colon I should have put “as in”. And I should have made it impersonal instead of saying “I”. I’s sorry for the confusion.
What I am saying is that believers do not really understand what it is that they believe in.
How did the first living cell exist. I can see that you are a hard headed atheist. there is no way you will agree with me and no way I will agree with you…So please let us agree to disagree and leave it at that
We can do that. But I ask you to think about my question, even if you are not prepared to answer it. What did god do after he created the first living cell?
He created the environment for it to exist….If that is the theory you want to believe. I believe He created our world, Adam and Eve, and then on the 7th day he rested.
Why bother to create a single living cell if you (god) are able to create an entire universe in just six days?
It was a pretty long rest, that 7th day. What has god done since then? Oh yes, he sent an angel to impregnate a virgin who somehow then gave birth to his son (not the angel’s) and then arranged for said son to be horribly put to death so that he could save his followers from eternal perdition with Satan (not satin). I’m really not sure how that works.
You are really a poor lost soul. I feel sorry for you.
Those are sophomoric queries of those who are not able to decipher the prophecies. And it is above your pay-grade. So please don’t sprain your miniscule mind trying. ((Miniscule is a variant of minuscule))
Full marks for knowing that the common spelling is minuscule. Some years ago I had a tiny bookstore (6×10 feet exterior measurements) which I called Miniscula in a deliberate mispelling to denote very small books.
I was a sophomore in 1966 so I have had plenty of time to think about the world. I have not bothered to decipher the prophecies as I decided in 1958 that god is a delusion (Dawkins again) and nothing in the intervening 60 years has led me to question that decision.
A cell is a very complicated thing. A great mathematician said that the odds of life (a cell) developing through what the ignorant call evolution, are about the same as a storm passing through a junkyard and creating a 747, fueled and read to go. If that is your belief, then you have a belief. You believe in something. Which makes you a liar and a naive retard.
Yes, Richard Dawkins did say something like that. He is, however, a biologist, and probably the greatest living exponent of evolution.
((I “believe” in nothing))
Bullshit. There are no unbelievers in the foxhole.
What is scathing is when someone speaks of “being nice” and goes all around not being nice.
Being nice is a goal, a wish, a dream. There are times when it is really, really difficult. talking about religion is one of those times.
What I meant was that my comments about religion have been from my “be nice” persona. You probably do not want to hear me when I am not using that filter.
elizabeth….What a sick in the head person you are. Move to those countries and see what they are like now…..and good luck…don’t complain when you get raped by those animals because personally we won’t give a crap
I missed this post and I hesitate to answer it now ans spoil the cordial nature of the last couple of comments.
And somehow I need to do it without expressing the considerable contempt I feel for those who on the one hand offer to pray for my soul (thanks but no thanks) and on the other hand call other human beings animals. Personally I consider that an insult to animals who are, by and large, much nicer that religious zealots whatever creed they follow.
Sorry to disappoint you….But i am a Christian and deplore those in the middle east and the countries they have migrated to, who rape, kill and mutilate women and children. Perhaps you have not paid attention to the news. These immigrants act like animals. No rules just do as you please. so feel contempt if that makes you feel better! I stand by my post.
Yes, Jeannie, I understand that you are a Christian. That is the problem.
It may surprise you but I also deplore those who rape, kill and mutilate women and children, regardless of where they are from. I do pay attention to the news, and I read widely. I have read some real horror stories.
But, I do not conclude that just because one refugee did something awful therefore all refugees are awful.
Elizabeth it is not just one refugee. Have you not heard of the rape epidemic in Europe and the UK? http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/europes-rape-epidemic-western-women-will-be-sacrificed-at-the-alter-of-mass-migration/ it exists
No. I have not heard of an epidemic.
And I have said elsewhere that I would not believe Breitbart if they told me the sum rises in the east.
Snopes is a far left wing site with an agenda…..yet you believe them?
Snopes is, as far as I can see, totally non-partisan. They uncover misinformation coming from the left as well as from the right.
If it seems as if they rule false more often about right-leaning stories than left-leaning stories, it cold just possibly be because more of the former are in fact false.
George Soros now owns Snopes.
Interesting. Not that it changes much.
LOL and she thinks they are non biased!!!!
Elizabeth just what do you believe…
Glad you asked that. I will answer it using the word think instead of believe, because as I have said elsewhere, belief implies uncertainty.
I think that we live on an amazing planet with an incredible wealth of mind-blowing inhabitants. (Not entirely relevant, but i really want to share this: yesterday I heard a lecture by a woman who takes portraits of marine invertebrates. The photos were outstanding and her presentation truly remarkable. She got to know these crabs and jelly fish and nudibranchs as individuals and managed to convey to us in the audience how wonderful they are.)
I think that humans have evolved to the point where they are too clever for their own good. But I also think that most humans are basically quite nice – if they are allowed to be.
I think that religion is a scourge. Whatever religion it is, it divides the world into us and them.
I think that we have one life (I am pretty certain there is no afterlife) and so we should use it to make sure that we do no harm to the planet; that we will leave a better place for our children.
And I think that we should try very hard to be nice to each other, and to animals, and to the natural world.
I don’t have any idea how unhappy a person you must be. Religion is not a scourage but a belief that there is an after life. My religion is not a divider. We welcome and pray for all. And yes I do pray for isis. I pray that one day they and the rest of the unbelievers will turn to our God. I don’t expect that you will agree but….that is my hope. Oh BTW the left wing soros owns snopes. How unbiased can it be. And with that I will bid adieu ….Have a happy life.
Jeannie, did you read what I wrote in response to your question? Do I sound like an unhappy person? How can anyone who falls in love with decorator crabs be unhappy?
http://s562.photobucket.com/user/SEQdivespots/media/Decorator%20crabs/decorator-crab-.jpg.html
Your religion is a divider. All religions are. I say that because it is a given that if you are not one of us, you are one of “them” and “they” are, by definition, not us, and therefore bad.
((belief implies uncertainty.)) Wrong.
Really? Please explain.
You don’t believe in breitbart yet you claimed two days ago supposedly brier art made the claim nobody saw Muslim Americans dancing in the streets during 9/11 and that the Donald is a liar.
You missed the little word “even” before Breitbart which implies that there were many other sources as well, and that when a publication like Breitbart says something so uncharacteristic, it has a good chance of being true.
Ah, the subtleties of which the English language is capable. Like the difference between “I don’t believe in” and “I don’t believe”: the former means I am not convinced by the goodness or worthiness of something; I don’t believe you means I do not think you are telling the truth. In the case of Breitbart both apply, but you misquoted me.
Assuming the refugees are muslims, therein lies your error
This entire thread is about Muslims. Which refugees are you referring to?
((the considerable contempt I feel))
Amusing that such a low creature as yourself would be so arrogant as to assume superiority to any other creature.
Calling out someone for wishing harm to another human being is hardly assuming superiority.
Jeannie said, in effect, that I could be raped by Muslims and she would not care. And she proudly proclaims that she is a Christian. Explain to me how that makes her superior to the Muslims she so readily reviles.
I do not find it amusing at all.
I can not believe this woman. She said her husband died a few years ago? He probably died to get away from her
I’m sorry for her loss; However, I did have to block her as she became too much. This whole thread seemed to end up being about her combativeness to anyone else’s opinion and my head started aching. lol
I am sorry too. I know the feeling I was a widow at 31 with 2 small children.
Oh, i’m so very sorry for your loss and also on top of this hurt, you had two little ones to console and raise up as well. God Bless you and your little ones, and may His Peace and Comfort be with you all, in Jesus name. I’m in hope that you do know that though you all miss him dearly; that he has gone Home and is with our Father, as we all will be one day. Our Father is God of the living, not the dead; so your Husband is living; only gone Home and I know that you must miss him deeply and I pray that you are taking care of you as well until you all are together again. Please forgive me if I’ve said any wrong words as there are really no words to say good enough for someone going through what you and your Family has had to go through. Will keep you and your Family in prayer for His Healing and Comfort, in Jesus name, Always!!! Take good care!!! May God’s Peace be with you all, always!!!
Kim, You have said nothing that would offend me. I believe in God the Father, God The Son and God the Holy Spirit. I did remarry 3 and a half years later. However my husband did not keep his promise of faithfulness. I remained with him until he got really mean. He is a retired police officer and threatened me with his weapons. I filed for an order of protection and a divorce. The signs were there and I did not recognize them. He was in the second stage of Alzheimer/Denmentia. Shortly after the divorce was final he approached me, and wanted me to go to dinner with him. We were together for 38 years, and of course I was not in love with him, but still cared what happened to him. His two daughters disowned him over 23 years ago and I am all he has. He asked me to help him with his finances, bills and appointments and such. I agreed to help him, I am all he has. Shortly after that he started to show real distinct signs of the disease and the retirement home told me he could not stay there any longer. So I found a nice memory care facility and he has been in memory care for about 4 and a half years. He doesn’t talk anymore, he has to be fed, his food has to be mashed up and his liquids thickened. He does still know me…It is difficult to see him in this condition. I go to see him a couple of times a week. Soooo that is my story. I hope I haven’t bored you!!
I know that God will bring us all together once again.
Thank you so much for your kind words….
God Bless you
Jeannie
Wow. What a beautiful heart of compassion and love and forgiveness you have there Jeannie. Believe it or not; Blessed are you and especially those who know you. You truly seem to have had a rough time in this life; But you sure were there for those who needed you and your kind of heart. What a Blessing you are to those around you and for those who love you. In no way is your story boring and i’m honored and humbled that you shared this with me dear lady. Please remember to take good care of you as well. So very wonderful to have met you even if it was through the computer. : ) Thank you for telling me your story as your truly an inspiration; Especially with all you have been through and you still have a heart of gold. Don’t ever change!
God’s Peace be with you….
Take good care…
God Bless you as well
kim
Thank you Kim….You are too sweet…. If you would like to be friends my email is _gigilane1@aol.com_ (mailto:gigilane1@aol.com) . I am a published poet and author. Gigi Lane is my pen name. If you wish to see some of my work you can look here… _www.poetryinmotion.biz_ (http://www.poetryinmotion.biz)
I would love to be friends with you..
Warm regards
Jeannie
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I meant to ask you what Religion are you?
I am Lutheran and we say God’s Peace Be With You also
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She edited her comments and you only receive the initial posting not future edits. Again we are talking ISLAM
I guess that explains it. Pity (for her) that I get to see the first un-thoughtout draft.
And, yes the main thread is Islam, but one religion is as bad as the next, so they are all fair game.
So you should know the extreme danger of the total Way of Life of Islam, what it intends to do (is doing) and what happens when religion takes over so completely.
Religion – any religion – is anathema to me. You talk about religion taking over. You are talking about Islam. But how about Christianity? I go to a PTA meeting and I am expected to take part in a Christian prayer. I go to a city council meeting and I am expected to take part in a Christian prayer. every president ends every speech with God Bless America.
Religion has completely overtaken the United States, and it is not Islam.
Too bad you missed the Inquisition….
I could argue quite convincingly that I have not missed it at all as it is still with us.
She never said she was Christian
Thank you but I found that out. I was thrown off when she was assuming another person was Christian. I had read that one wrong so I changed that sentence of mine as I should have.
Thank you David. I did not. Quite the opposite.
Hey Liz, your last name is either fake or an ancestor couldn’t speak English and when the immigration folks asked for a name, all he or she could do was point a finger at houses. I think your real last name is “shabby shack”. If you love Muslims so much and wish to defend them. I suggest you go to Syria and offer yourself up as a soldier slut. The Islam soldiers claim the women who do this are honored by a fake god named Al lah.. Think of it. You could become a hero and all you have to do is lay there. And never go hungry as you will always have a good supply of Weiner’s. But their not kosher. Enjoy your day.
Liz, are you originally from Indianapolis? I was blinded in one eye at age ten by a kid named Whitehouse.
How could I possibly enjoy a day when a fellow American showed himself to be such a pathetic apology for a human being. I’m done being nice.
Please Don’t be nice. I have no love, like, or other good feeling to persons who love Muslim’s. Muslims, whose wholesale desire is to destroy the USA , our way of life, and have high hopes of nukes being dropped on us. You feel however you like and believe what you will. Its OK. But to destroy other citizens of America so you can love Muslims is unjust. “pathetic apology” wow!!! I hope you always get what you pay for.
What do you love? Very little as far as I can see.
What you fail to see is that there are millions and millions of really nice Muslims. Then there are a few fanatics who are really nasty. Similarly, there are millions and millions of really nice Christians, as well as a few fanatics who cannot see any good in anyone who is different from them. They may not resort to the same violent tactics that the Muslin fanatics do, but they are equally nasty.
You met some nice muslims. It is naive to assume they do not read the Koran. It is naive to assume that just because they behave nicely to you that they will not behave differently if they have the power. You have been chumped. Or you are muslim yourself. The Koran tells them to act nice and smile sweetly until they are in a position to do otherwise. If you do not know that, you have not read their book. If you have read their book then you know this, and you are a muslim and a liar.
You just reminded me that they can work with you for five years or more and one day…boom….off with your head is their action. Mind boggling; However, I have read enough of their book to know how they operate. The Ft. Hood psychiatrist enlisted guy worked with those soldiers for who knows how long when he went jhad on them and then there was the San Bernardino slaughter where the guy worked with those people for about five years and then at a celebration he and his new wife went jhad on those poor souls. It goes on and on and how do we know when it is their time to go jhad on us if we get close enough to them or work with them or live next door to them. It is like Russian roulette with these believers. Sad to have to say; but it is the truth.
I presume that you have read the bible. Do you do many of the things that god sanctioned? I don’t see much of the love thy neighbor part.
But I get it, you are a Christian and therefore above reproach while “they” are not and must be reviled. It is two sides of the same coin.
“Bible” is capitalized.
Only if one has any respect for it as a meaningful document. Should I also capitalize kama sutra?
You are a slut that belongs in hell. I have some pig blood for you muslim bitch…
Sorry. That dog won’t hunt. Yes, there are things in the old testament, as in the Koran, that have been corrected in the New Testament. And Christians don’t adhere to violent ways. While Muslims still do. All anyone has to do is pick up a news paper to see the blood lust of the muslims for those who do not bend the knee. While Christians, for the most part, do not actively proselytize. And certainly not with a sword.
Christians, for the most part, do not actively proselytize.
You’re joking, right?
Ever heard of a missionary?
Ahhh Elizabeth the true Christian. Love your brother. I have 3,000 Syrian ” Refugees ” that need a home. I will move them next door to you so you can LOVE them.
No, not a Christian, but I do have more empathy and compassion than you do.
A rather silly argument, Elizabeth, in light of all the atrocities being committed all over the world every day of the year by Muslims. Can you enlighten all the rest of us to any similar atrocities committed by Christians on a similar scale in this century, or even the last one.
I did say that the Muslim religion is about as violent as the Christian was in the Middle Ages. and I would agree that we cannot wait seven or eight hundred years for them to achieve some sort of enlightenment.
Christian atrocities this century? Perhaps the wars in Afghanistan,Iraq, and Yemen?
“Christian atrocities this century? Perhaps the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Yemen?” Are you certain you’re thinking about the same ideology? Last I heard those “wars” were Muslims murdering every Christian, Jew, Hindu or anyone else their faithful 7th century interpretation of Mohammad’s commands to kill all Kaffirs they could lay their hands on including every other Muslim who wasn’t “Islamic” enough for that particular mass murderer.
I was thinking more about who started the wars.
So was I because it’s awfully had to keep denying Muslims have been at it for over a thousand years and counting..
And Christians for twice as long
Are you really that ready to “submit” to Islam, Elizabeth, or are you just shooting off your mouth without actually comprehending what being “Muslim” actually involvs?
Who said anything about submitting to Islam? And I try to make my comments rather better than shooting my mouth off. A lot of thought and quite a bit of research goes into them. I do have some idea what being a Muslim (without quotes) involves. What do you think it involves?
Tell you what, Elizabeth. Read the Koran and the Sonnets until you understand the meaning and then come back with more insightful comments about how well you understand what being a devout and faithful adherent to Islam demands. Remember that the more recent passages override the older ones in direct contradiction to the Christian Bible where the New Testament mellowed out the Old Testament. With Islam it’s the direct opposite. As Islam gained in strength, the verbiage became even more inflammatory with Mohammad exhorting his followers to murder, enslave and pillage across the entire world until Allah was the only god prayed to. Muslims have a choice then to be “bad Catholics” and live in mortal fear of the devout true believers or become repressed fanatics themselves until the day they can join the struggle. Fortunately, Mohammad has provided them with a neat clause in their contract that allows them to lie if it servers the purposes of Islam called “taqiyya”.The word “taqiyya” literally means: “Concealing, precaution, guarding.” It is employed in disguising one’s beliefs, intentions, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions or strategies. In practical terms it is manifested as dissimulation, lying, deceiving, vexing and confounding with the intention of deflecting attention, foiling or pre-emptive blocking. It is currently employed in fending off and neutralizing any criticism of Islam or Muslims. Hard to trust with that in the game.
Those were not wars in the name of Christianity as is the case with Islam.
You’re nothing but a muslim sympathizer.
If that it the worst thing you can think of to say about me, I can live with it. You should take lessons from your fan Reverend1 if you want to come up with some nasty insults.
But insults have to hit close to home to have any sort of effect. So try your worst; won’t bother me.
You’re exposed fool so I don’t need to say anything else, everyone here knows you’re full of shi t.
F You.
We were attacked, ’72 Olympics, etc, etc, etc.
Palestinians ARE ONLY occupants, NOT a race.
Muslims follow an ideology, NOT a religion.
It’s far past time to “cull the herd” , as far as muslims are concerned.
The bastards have been in Spain (basque separatists), the P.I. (hucks- Muslim socialist/communists) for MANY decades .
I want some of the “mind-altering drugs” you’re using !
Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why the US has been attacked so often? (By the way, I thought it was Israelis who were attacked at the ’72 Olympics, not Americas). Could it possibly be because
No, Palestinians are not a race, but they are “occupants” in exactly the same way that the Navajo are “occupants” of Arizona, New Mexico and Utah.
It is ridiculous to say that a large group of very diverse people who revere a book of scripture and pray five times a day are not following a religion. Basque separatists are far more likely to be atheists than muslims, but most likely to be Catholics. And I have no idea what P.I. means.
I think you are already doing quite well in the mind-altering drug department. Dry white wine (or rosè if I’m in France) is as far as I go.
Oh, my.
NOW you ignorance is really becoming evident !
P.I. pertains to Philippine Islands.
Sorry, I guess can’t admonish you that much, because if you haven’t been there- standing against the “hucks”. You wouldn’t know, and most of it (the insurrection) has had BARELY a “mention” here at home in more the 40 years.
P.S.
Most that I “dealt with, were Muslim, k ?
They’re socialist anarchists.
I’ll talk to you more when you sober up.
God died for me and asks I forgive..but they must die for allah and kill innocents. Opposite concepts.
Bill, can you not see the similarity between you saying that “God died for me” and “they must die for allah”?
They are not opposite concepts at all. They are both based on the unfounded belief that our lives are controlled by a higher being. They are not. We are, each and every one of us, responsible for what we do with our lives, how we affect other humans, how we affect the animals with whom we share this planet, and, indeed how we affect the planet. (Not very well)
Similar as light is to dark….or as similar as love is to hate…OR as similar as good is to evil…
In other words, what you believe is right and good, and what anyone else believes is not.
If God died for me and I only need pick it up like a dollar off the street….you tell me if that beats having to murder suicide for allah… no right answer…you choose
You say that God died for you. I have a very hard time understanding what that means. I thought it was Jesus….
Well..it helps me to conceptualize a God like my dad or mom..see he just wanted me to take a seat on his knee…I didn’t have to do any yardwork or clean my room to sit on his knee…I just had to ask..God’s like That… but better…it would be like if my dad could become a kid like me…then if I did some dumb thing deserving punishment bam-God jumped in line ahead of me to take the licks..I did not ask him to he just did…don’t really understand why he did…but he did..so I figured if I get in his line maybe he takes the heat and well I get off undeservingly free…so I guess God became what he needed to become to accomplish my being able to sit on his knee…that took Jesus doing what he did and then the spirit to get through my thick skull ..so as for me being good or bad has nothing to do with it…I’m NOT good.
If you are not good how are you going to get to heaven?
Its too simple for us as adults to understand…but a kid…a kid totally gets it..What if a someone could suffer the pain for another when they skinned their knee or broke a bone? What if they could become that hurt and make it better? What if they took the heat for the worst thing you ever did ?…what if they physically became the worst thing anyone ever did to you and because of that…they died…but then came back again to let you know all that was now covered and you can heal forgive and move on to better things…What if that person did the same thing for everyone? And asked nothing in return…but to just pick it up like a dollar off the street…and that free dollar bought your ticket to heaven..because you noticed..because you reached down and picked it up. Because you knew that dollar was real.
Your faith is obviously very important to you and I am happy for you that it gives you such comfort. But please leave kids out of it. They don’t “get it”. It is forced upon them before they are really able to think for themselves.
This kid was lucky enough to have parents who went through the motions of a Christian education but they did not push it. At the age of eleven I was introduced to the idea that man created god, not the other way round. From that moment on I have totally rejected religion in any shape or form.
Without telling you what you should or should not believe, let me ask you this: what is so great about heaven?
My statements were not about me. But an observation of mankind (of all creeds) missing the point due to it’s simplicity…EVERYONE wants to skip the simple part and jump into their taught do and don’t do…see you’re doing it also…my point is…without the simple part the rest is just stage make up for man made up characters…
Apart from your first sentence, I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Why is that how you live your life? You a bible thumper or think it is a book of sin? Why are we to read the bible, really what is your point?
Since everybody else is talking about ISLAM get with the program. You can kid yourself but the Kuran is not compatible at all with the values of America and its constitution
You may be talking about Islam. I am talking about religion in general.
I suggested reading the bible to point out that the two books are not that different. If you were to follow the tenets of the bible you would have no problem giving up your daughters to be raped instead of your male guests, you would be prepared to sacrifice your son because god asked you to, you would be quite OK with killing all the enemies men and children while keeping the women for your own pleasure.
As that is your back-up to the Constitution, I am not sure I know what American values are.
Yet Elizabeth Whitehouse still felt the need to become an American citizen yet has not idea what American values are!
I fear the only American values you recognize are the freebies doled out………..not the sacrifices made by our soldiers to offer ‘citizens’ like yourself the platform to spread discourse and milk the system for food, shelter and an education.
I became an American citizen out of convenience. I admit it.
If you count Medicare as a freebie, then I am guilty of sponging off America, 30 years of contributing to the program notwithstanding.
The Quran:” Kill the Infidel”.
wake up Texascat, you are fighting the brain dead, Gruber was right, the American voter is stupid. Tylercat USAF Ret
Thank you for your service.
Yeah, sheeple – right.
We’re awakening, just watch the next decade.
Civil War 2.0- and the “demonrats” , the party of slavery, Crow, and Black Americans being 3/5 of a white man , they LOST the last time !
You “zoomies” might be needed if we have “martial law”. I was a grunt, but can fly a loach AND a “sandy”.
I’m IN !
Another patriot. Thanks for your service
I am Eyes Wide Open.
Were you radicalized while you were there? I’m sure you will not tell us when you are planning your attack. Maybe the FBI can find out. They are probably monitoring these comments. I hope they are anyway.
Why would I become radicalized? I do not believe in any faith. I am beyond atheism. There is just no way that a deity could exist.
Besides, not one of the Muslims I have come across has in any way tried to influence my thinking. Which is more than I can say about Christians.
I really didn’t expect you to own up to it, Your comment was exactually what I thought it would be.
Sorry. What was I supposed to own up to?
You make the argument of probabilities of this all being happenstance…ie..we should have been giant lizards or cockroaches both perfect or dominant..yet a fragile being with some moral complexity roams..ok…ready? What is one over a Google plex? Those are the odds of no intelligent design…ie…odds of the sun one over a trillion. Multiply by odds we are at precise distance and size and speed another one over a trillion..multiply by odds of elements composition in it’s configuration one over a trillion …multiply by odds of life of any sort one over a trillion…multiply by odds of complex life forms one over a trillion..multiply by odds of Darwinian law forming humans one over a trillion. Already past one over a googleplex…haven’t begun odds of sociological structure or psychology…interesting thing about probabilities…the inverse is also part of those odds…gives a new meaning to the word “Google plex over one…are the odds of intelligent design…
I’m really not sure what you are trying to say here. You seem to be saying that the odds against intelligent design are astronomical, but also that the odds against current species having evolve are also astronomical.
But life as we know it is not happenstance. Evolution is not happenstance.
You misread…Odds of NO intelligent design are one over a Google plex… Or as close to zero as one can imagine
Right! I did misread it. Welcome to the no creator club.
Actually…I’m stating the opposite…if the probabilities are near zero of no intelligent design….then the probabilities that intelligent design did this are near 100pct…
You could likely become radicalized if you think Republicans and Christians are hate groups. Your comments all over the internet could be the start for someone to approach a ‘widow’ from the middle east with resentment for a large part of American population.
Some questions, how do you support yourself? Were your husband’s medical expenses covered by Obamacare? Seems like you have plenty of free time to peruse the internet and troll sites like this. Just wanted to get a little background on you established. I’m curious the level of hypocrisy about American values from a ‘foreigner’ who very well could be on the government dole
I am not on the government dole, nor were my husband’s medical expenses paid for by Obamacare. He worked extremely hard at a job he loved, and for that he was well-paid, with excellent benefits. His health care benefits were not passed on, and I am extremely grateful that I was old enough to qualify for Medicare.
I do not understand your first paragraph at all, and as for hypocrisy, I am still trying to figure out what the American values you speak of actually are. What is the glory you are trying to restore?
Are you bipolar? Paying into an American system for thirty years yet you only became a citizen in January 2016 I know our federal government is flawed but how does that work?
It’s quite simple. My husband was granted an H1 visa allowing him to work from the day we arrived. Once the kids and I got green cards, we were all able to work as well – and expected to pay taxes. The IRS doesn’t care what your immigration status is.
(BTW, I was granted citizenship AFTER my visits to Iran and Cuba)
Thank’s for clearing that up. I understand now. I didn’t know you were an Iranian citizen. That explains why you believe as you do. I hope the FBI is reading your comments.
Jump to conclusions much? I don’t agree with everything Elizabeth says but come on, really? Are her comments really indicative of a member of a sleeper cell poised for attack?
She definitely does not have agree with American principles. Who knows what her real beliefs are. The people that killed all those people in San Bernadino were American citizens too. They killed the people who were throwing a birthday party for their baby.
Ha, ha. Of course I am not an Iranian citizen. I know of no country that offers citizenship after two weeks. Well, except, perhaps, Ireland which will give a passport to anyone whose ancestors could locate the Blarney Stone.
I hope the FBI is reading my comments.
I do too. Anybody with anti-american ideals should be investigated.
First we have to be clear about what these american ideals are.
Americans know what they are. When you have spent time in most of the countries that have no love for the US is enough to call for an investigation.
Elizabeth.. Are you a lesbian?
Yikes. And we know how that vetting process goes; or no vetting process is more like it.
At one point in my interview the thoroughly charming and seemingly quite intelligent man let slip that they already knew quite a lot about me. The vetting process is very real.
Wow. So not a REAL American, which tells the rest of us everything we need to know about you. And our immigration service is not known for employing those with the highest IQ. They also admitted the 9/11 terrorists on Visas. Then didnt track them down when they overstayed their visas . We know what happened after that.
No I am not a REAL American. Whatever that may be.
we WISH you had remained there, Psycho!
Apparently 30 years ago
No. I went to Cuba in 2014, Iran in 2015, and I became a citizen in January of 2016.
Elizabeth should have become a “prisoner” in 2016.
So should we assume you are a liberal, a Democrat and a Christian hater, possibly an atheist? You are labeling Christians and Republicans as hate groups based on what you see in the media or the comments you read on the Internet. They don’t represent all of Christianity just like all Muslims, I believe, are not radical terrorists. And just because you don’t agree with Christian religious beliefs does not mean they are hate-filled.
We have every right to be concerned about Muslims because we don’t know if they are all believers of the Qu’ran or not. My guess is that, like any religion, some are not practicing their religion – which for the radical Muslims seems to be more of a form of government than a religion. Anyone who is not a Muslim is considered an infidel and worthy of death according to the Qu’ran.
I agree that there is not need to put the words “Islamic terrorists” on the monument – when terrorist will suffice. But we should not rewrite history and downplay the fact that the terrorists were indeed “radical” Muslims
At last! A really rational comment on restoreamericanglory (apart from mine that is!)
You can assume that I am liberal in my thinking (in the sense of open to all ideas). But I am not a Democrat. I have absolutely no party affiliation and from time to time even agree with the Republicans. I do not call myself an atheist as that implies that there is a god but I chose not to believe in him. I know that there is no supernatural being directing our lives; that there is no creator. There are just too many clear explanations of how and why we are here to accept a theoretical one.
You are absolutely right that one cannot assign characteristics to a group based solely on belonging to that group. That is known as bigotry and I will admit that I came close to being a bigot by saying that Christians and Muslims are two of the most hate-filled groups I know. I should rephrase it and say that a disturbing number of Christians and Republicans exhibit intolerance and hate. Ditto Muslims.
Just curious – what are the clear explanations of how and why we are here if there is no creator? I am not trying to be snarky or anything, but just not sure how we can come from nothing without a creator.
By the way, I think both parties are guilty of intolerance … Nobody can seem to agree to disagree without it turning hateful these days.
Amen to your last paragraph. My current mission in life is to persuade people to be nice to each other – and to animals and the planet in general.
As for creation. Prior to 1859, a divine creator was the only possible explanation of how we came to be here. With the Bible adding extra credence. But Darwin changed that.
I’m still trying to wrap my head around the idea of the Big Bang Theory, but evolution is easy. It’s chemistry. There mat still be some mystery about the spark that started life, but once elements started forming molecules and those molecules began to replicate, everything follows logically.
You can if you wish – if you must – say that God was the spark, but that is no reason to believe that He has any effect on our lives today.
OK, setting aside the creator for a minute … If we were formed from some Big Bang, how is it that we have nearly six billion people (maybe more) on this planet and not a single person has identical DNA and none of us have duplicate fingerprints? Just as an example. So somehow there has to be some form of intelligent design….
I know you are not trying to be snarky, David. You come across as a really nice, thoughtful person. One with whom I hope to have many more conversations.
I will give you my take on how we are here without a creator, but I also refer you to the writings of Richard Dawkins. He is widely known as an outspoken atheist, but he is primarily an evolutionary biologist. He is quite brilliant at explaining evolution in all its complexity.
My take on life is this: not long after the universe came into being (and I;m still struggling with the Big Bang Theory) various atoms came into contact with each other and formed molecules. Those molecules became more complex, and at some point something miraculous happened: they began to replicate themselves. This is the moment of “creation”. You can believe that there was a creator, but this is the only time in the earth’s four billion year history where one was necessary.
The rest, as they say, is history. The replicating molecules were not perfect, there were some errors and Darwin’s principle of natural selection took over. The molecules – later organisms, later creatures – best equipped to survive, did. That very simple mechanism has led to the truly awesome variety of life that exists on our planet.
She just told someone down scroll that she was just granted citizenship. Speaks volumes for me.
Elizabeth..read the Qur’an and stop this BS from the enemedia…YOUR complete argument is vapid. BTW, having read the Qur’an….Rich is on target…
I’ll admit that I have not read the Koran. Nor have I read the Bible from cover to cover. I really see no need as they are both works of fiction and should not be the foundation of any way of life.
Maybe you feel that way, but 1B Muslims do NOT. The principles and teachings are followed strictly and being dismissive of this, even though you have not even bothered to read it..do not make it less real. If you want to read an accurate depiction find Robert Spencer’s writings and brace yourself Elizabeth….
I looked up Robert Spencer.
His writings represent the truth about Islam about as much as the Westboro Baptist church represents the views of Christians.
And that’s because as you have already admitted, you have never read the Qur’an. The analogies are no where never valid or true. Does your blatant ignorance and raging stupidity demand practice?? Or is it a gift???
It’s a gift. No doubt about that.
Elizabeth is a Clinical Sociopath/Psychotic, ladies and gentlemen. And, she murdered her late husband.
Elizabeth, since you won’the read the Kur’an nor the Bible, then HOW do you claim to have an “open mind”? It appears your mind is CLOSED to learning.
To “Prove” the validity of God and His Bible truly takes little study. Daniel 2 is all you need to read to prove both, provided you have the open mind that you claim. IF you are NOT willing to read that one chapter, then there is no hope for you, AND your claim of an “Open Mind” is proven to be a lie.
Get back to me ONLY IF you read Daniel 2.
Thanks for your time.
OK. I read it. Amazingly similar to the story of Joseph in Egypt, except for the part about his brothers selling him as a slave.
I’m sorry Bachelor, but if you think that Daniel 2 proves the validity of God and His Bible, then you need serious psychiatric help.
If you believe Christians and republicans are your biggest danger, you qualify as an idiot. Well honey, I lost my husband on 9/11, no radical, just an accountant who went to work to support his family that day. I spent the last 15 years raising my two sons alone. Islam represents a 6th century savagery incompatible with the western world and the so-called”good” Muslims most often remain astoundingly silent after each Islamic atrocity. Sweet that you had fun in Iran for 16 days. Meanwhile the 3000 families who lost someone on 9/11 forever live an altered life. What about the attack on the USS Cole, the beheading of Daniel Pearl, the train bombings in London and Madrid? The bombing in remote Bali? The shootings San Bernadino, Paris? Lets even go back to the murder of Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics in 1972? The Fort Hood shootings by Nidal Hassan, supposed muslim psychiatrist??? ( PC democrats call this workplace violence).The throwing of gays off of buildings to murder them? Mass beheadings filmed on the beach and the bombings at weddings in the Middle east. Shoe bomber? Times square bomber? There are thousands more of these attacks worldwide , too numerous to mention here. The reality is these people’s philosophy at its core demands the murder or submission of all who view the world differently then they do. They represent a real danger to western civilization and the freedoms which are part of it. After them, the second danger is fools like you who think life is all rosy and we call can all just “get along”. You dont just get along with a snake or a rat or a zealot. Tell that to the kamikazi pilots and the Nazis of WW2. Some things only end when your enemy is dead or beaten into the ground. Right now with the DEMs in power we have laid our heads willingly on the chopping block. If you voted Dem in the last election to prove you werent a racist , this time vote Republican to prove you have a brain.
I am truly sorry for your loss. I can’t imagine how awful that was. I recently lost my husband to a much more mundane cause – cancer.
You are also absolutely right that Islam today represents the medieval savagery that was Christianity at the height of the Crusades and the Inquisition. We (even the atheists) whose lives are based on Judea-Christian values have thankfully evolved beyond those dark days – up to a point. But as the youngest ever Peace Prize winner said,
We
cannot stop terrorism just by killing terrorists. We need dialogue and education.
Skipping to the end: I was not aware that the Dems were in power. Sure we have a Democrat in the White House, but Republicans control both houses of Congress and 31 states.
Yeah, just keep talking to ISIS. let’s see where that gets ya. In fact, why don’t you travel there, and talk with the monsters in power. Maybe YOU can reason with them…….
History is history. Going back to the crusades a thousand years ago is not only a ridiculous comparison but begs the question. How are muslims coming to terms with modern life NOW? The answer is they are NOT. Looking at their treatment of women tells you pretty much everything. Their level of violence, unmatched by any other group for numbers killed, tells you even more. Even our troops have been asked in the past not to wear their crosses when staffed in islamic countries for fear of offending the host country. Our recently captured sailors even forced the woman crewman to wear a headscarf, certainly not a part of HER religion. Forcing others to observe their customs is their big obsession. I find it intellectually backward. They have no second thoughts at all about imposing their point of view. That they have made no progress in a thousand years says a lot. I am not interested in talking to these people. Exactly what would they have to say to me ? That with a masters degree I am too educated a woman for their liking? Or maybe that I am worthy of death as a Christian infidel? I’m not interested in talking to Muslims who remain silent in the face of atrocity , either. They clearly either silently agree with the atrocities or are cowards. In either case I cant respect them. Republicans “control” both houses of the federal govt but that is not entirely helpful with obamas far too frequent use of executive order to get what he wants when legally elected congressmen and senators wont pass his legislation, and his habit of choosing to veto legislation that both houses DO pass. In truth the office of president holds far more of the cards. He can push some of his own agenda by executive order and stonewall the republican effort to do almost anything at all by using his veto. Dont get me started on his insistence that we release the scum from Gitmo. I personally prefer a political impasse to this leftist zero pushing his agenda any further.
Quick comment on Gitmo, then I’ll go back to the bigger picture.
I grew up in apartheid South Africa, a country which was justifiably accused of horrible human rights violations. Two of those were detention without trial and solitary confinement. Both of those things happened, but even with the hardline Nationalist government, they were limited to six months.
Not one of the men confined at Gitmo has ever had a trial. So you don’t know that they are scum. You don’t know that they are guilty of anything more than being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
For the rest, I mentioned the crusades to show that there was a time when Christianity was no better than Islam. We have King Henry VIII and the likes of Martin Luther to thank for the change. The Reformation broke the absolute power of the Catholic Church and led to a much gentler, more compassionate religion. That has yet to happen with Islam.
Their treatment of women is not good, to put it mildly. But one can argue quite convincingly that the US does not treat its women well either. The degree is different, true, but both Islam and Christianity are male dominated. The bible lumps women cattle as possessions – chattel, and we are only just leaving that concept behind. Women in the United States did not have the right to vote until 1920. It was much later in many other nominally Christian countries.
My point is that the differences between Muslims and Christians is only a matter of degree.
Yes.. Elizabeth.. your husband.. poor thing.. I bet you murdered him.
LJ, so sorry for your loss. It was a horrific tragedy.
Please ignore Eliz whitehouse, she is a muslim terrorist apologist.
Please read my response to LJ below.
Waste of time and energy reading any of your squabble bovine defecation, Elizabeth. Only single thing you have in common with normal human females if a vagina, and I wager yours if infected and incurably infected. You are one sick hog.
Even the Canadian Islamic Muslim murderer wannabe convert wrote that Islam is NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE WEST WHICH OUTLAWS MANY ISLAMIC TENENTS…. Yup I’ve traveled Turkey and watched them parade groups of women through the streets as the brutal trainer swings a 4ft rod striking them as he shouts commands right or left forward and back…as the radicals were taking over…maybe that’s your cup o tea…but not for my family n country…get them out!
Maybe you should have STAYED THERE!!!
Beth, Catholics try to disavow religious terrorists Catholic Hitler and Catholic Pol Pot and Catholic Timothy McVeigh and Catholic Adam Lanza and Catholic Guy Fawkes… and so Muslims try to disavow EvilBushJr.’s ButtBuddy Muslim Religious Terrorist Osama bin Laden and the 9/11 Muslim Religious Terrorists… With the help of Muslim/Christian Obama… All religics either support and/or are doing religious terrorism… they all have written ORDERS to do that!
Majority are biding their until the last caliphate. They are only awaiting orders. If you become an American citizen then give up, denounce your old country and accept our way of life or GTFO.
Don’t make ‘republicans’ out as a hate group. Loving America for all it is, good and bad, does not make you a hater. I for one just want our laws followed and enforced. Nothing wrong with living by our rules in the US of A. Feel free to go back to the middle east if you and your husband find it desirable, I feel no ill will to you or your family, just follow the old saying ‘love it or leave it’
A little like those who are awaiting the rapture?
You are the very definition of drooling stooge.
I’m glad your parents keep you locked in the basement.
Bread and water should whinow away at the abundance of adipose
Whatever.
Actually, this is not a ‘christian’ or political problem. It is a constitutional problem. As France has recently said “Freedom from oppression does NOT mean Freedom to oppress” Check Carefully, beneath the surface of what is happening in France, Europe. This is about facts and not some ideal wish/belief that there is no danger or that its just about Islamophobia. Our Media is no help because of the Corporations who run them and now have deep monetary ties with Islamic countries. People so into Business have NO idea what a religion can do. They have no idea of the irrational powerful goals or what ‘tools’ the masses of Muslims spreading out are. They would rather keep their Money ties & cannot imagine the irrational entity they deal with. We have let in TROUBLE but America will never allow it to last. It will just make a truly violent, warlike situation for the future kids who must be taught to keep our Freedom. Our life is Opposite Islam. Totally opposite.
Denial is no defense.
Well well well elizabeth, so Republicans are the hateful group??? Did you know that democraps were the ones who condoned slavery? Tell me how many Republicans did you see disrupting rallies and rioting? How many Republicans did you see shooting police officers…You my dear are so full of crap that I can smell you from here.
Just a little two-bit New York commie. Click!!
Just because you are performing fellatio on certain muslims does not make them o.k.
And you, sir, are a perfect example of why Muslims call America the great Satan.
Yeah ok aklady whatever you say.
Bitch, I am an AMERICAN, not repugnant-can’t , nor demonrat.
Too effing bad I don’t fit into your little “groups” , you HATEFUL BIGOT!
As I was not talking to you, I’m not sure how I could have fitted you into one of my little groups.
Perhaps you should ask Santa to bring you a dictionary for Christmas so that you can learn how to spell the names of our major political parties. And you could look up the meaning of hateful (arousing hate or deserving to be hated;
full of or expressing hate; malignant; malevolent) and bigot (a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group, such as a racial or religious group).
If I come across as expressing hate, then my entire BE NICE project is a failure! I try extremely hard to be civil and to express my opinions in a rational fashion. This is the first time I have been called a bitch, although I have been called condescending and a know-it-all. I will admit to the latter, but it is hard not to point out glaring factual errors. I also admit to being condescending, and I’m working on that.
But bigot! I would say that I am the most open-minded person on this site.
Lol, “open minded” : yeah , you just “parrot” the “party line” like a parrot.
Garbage IN, Garbage out !
Nothing “sticks”, nothing is relevant but the “party line, huh bird-brain ?
Which party line? The last time I have had anything to do with a party line was when I tried to call my brother in South Africa and the operator told me that he wasn’t home, but she’d try the pub.
Oooh, I “get it” now.
Elezziebeth Whitehouse.
Maybe you are a “femme-nazi”.
‘lezzy inna whitehouse party” maybe ?
No “political party”, lol – “some other kinda PARTY”?
I figure they’ll edit/remove this- maybe “banish me”, hee, hee !
I think you have been partying quite a lot. If there was audio, you would be slurring your words.
I’m not “slurring my words”, I’m speaking in cursive !
Ha ha. That’s funny. Perhaps you are not as drunk as you seem.
Hay, ah do knot inna rat now kinda thang dislak anee-one, k ?
(spelling intentional)
If I were to meet you “on the sidewalk” somewhere-
I’d treat you with the same Respect that I DEMAND for myself.
Now, having said that : if you punched me in the snot locker, or hit me with a slobber knocker , well you’d be in Trouble !
You do not demand respect; you earn it.
You know, THAT is exactly what answer I would expect from a class/crass bigot.
I’ve been “on the ground” on all but two continents of our “mud ball”.
I’ve found that even the “most sheltered”, “most isolated” PEOPLES anywhere, are mine own- are “our own”.
Can you understand, bigot ?
And I’ve been on all but Antarctica.
How does saying that you do not demand respect, you earn it make me a bigot?
And, no,I’m sorry, I do not understand “I’ve found that even the “most sheltered”, “most isolated” PEOPLES anywhere, are mine own- are “our own”.” Could you put that in capitals instead of cursive?
Put on your reading specs, or turn up the light.
I said -” I treat people with the same respect I demand for myself”.
Your “twisted mind” prejudged me.
Oh, BTW – I’VE cousins in Melbourne (grammar school teacher), one in Sidney (merchant marine), and a “knockabout near Cairns.
I’ve not been to Antarctica, nor Australia.
One IS on my “bucket list”!
Australia is great. I also have cousins there and I have visited five times. A wonderful country – high on my list of possible places to live if I ever decided that my kids and grandkids (and grandpuppies) were no longer enough to keep me here. France and Scotland are other options.
And you did say that you demand respect. You admit it.
Damned right I demand respect as a person, do you not ?
I SO want to go to Australia. I’ve been nearly everywhere else (Military).
My family goes back to the “early Bronze Age” on my Fathers’ side ( a 12 y/o immigrant from Ireland).
I hope you know Australia’s
history. It was an English penal colony.
My genealogy consists of:
Danish, Bavarian, Scotch-Irish on Moms’ side.
Arrived here circa 1861.
Pops arrived about 1936.
My Great Grand Uncle arrived in 1897, had only .50 in his pocket (as Family lore goes) and went to work for the railroad. Grand Uncle Edmund followed, then Grandma. Pops had no family (except uncles & cousins) until he arrived here.
Lol, he told me he was very sick when he got to Philadelphia because (his words) “I didn’t know how to use an indoor shitter”.
We are common, but exceptional.
We treat people like we wish (demand) to be treated.
John. If you treat people with due respect, you are going to get it back. I say ‘due respect’ because I think that there are unfortunately many people who deserve no respect at all. That doesn’t mean that you have to be rude to them, but you certainly do not have to accept their crap because it is the “correct’ thing to do.
You’ve not a clue, kiddo.
When you are the “enemy/savior” (Military) , you look in their eyes. They are afraid, but might ( more often than not) be somewhat suspicious, BUT decide to trust you. – that is a start.
My “wild blues” have stopped fights, caused fear & suspicions to “take a break”, maybe saved us from ambush.
Sorry, but I give “the other guy” the first punch.
That is at home & “wherever”. I always was “point” on this type of situation, because I had my “newbies” to protect.
Why?
I’m only 5’8″, 175# but they aren’t sure IF I can “go” , or not.
More often than not, they don’t want to know.
NO, I don’t have a clue. I don’t know what you are talking about. But I am pretty sure that war is not the answer.
You’re totally right.
You’ve not been where we’ve been. You’ve never had to kill one that you had believed to be a friend.
LBJ screwed my generation, and Tricky Dick escalated & pacified our actions depending on his “political poll ratings”.
We were pawns, but didn’t know it.
Now, THAT is where I began to understand REAL human relationships.
Sometimes our “friends” that truly loved us, killed us.
Sometimes, the reverse was true.Neither way did the “heart” any good.
I’ve been to the Sinai, central America, sub-Sahara Central Africa, S.E. Asia (3), Northern South America.
It’s all the same. PEOPLE trying to not only survive, but succeed.
Now, I’m just an old fart, with a message : THERE ARE TOO MANY “PRIVILEDGED” AMERICANS, for OUR own good.
Thank You, corrupt “old guard pols”.
So, you just keep on “drinking the cool aid”, and believing all the crap you THINK you know- it’s time for someone to “kick that rock over & over again” , till you KNOW all sides, k?
War will continue as long as men (and alarmingly, women) are prepared to fight. To be used as cannon fodder. To kill needlessly.
You have a point, though, about too many privileged Americans, although that is not quite the term I would use. This country is controlled by a very small number of extremely rich people. How many, I wonder, have profitted from war?
Yeah, it seems to me that you’re an upper class bigot.
Do your “bleeding heart” summer break b.s and THINK you’ve done something worthwhile. Ha.
I’d bet your sorry self hasn’t been ANYWHERE , unless it was spring break or some student exchange.
Vacation in France ?
We know the “nuts & bolts” of things.
Your kind knows how expensive it can be to “tip” your maid, your Hostel Mama, etc.
Hypocrites are us ?
I’d bet you are a “Charter Member”.
You’d lose the bet. I have lived in four countries on three continents for at least two years each. I have visited 74 countries, some fleetingly, but at least twenty for two to four weeks.
And I speak six languages.
Maybe, just maybe you could see past your bigotry.
I’ve known people in dire straits, and helped them only to have some punk anti-war idiots , chicken-shit polititions leave them NAKED, when we were called home.
I suspect YOU are their enemy, not the PEOPLE that defended them.
Bigotry is a word much used these days (and quite often attached to Donald Trump). But I don’t think you know what it means.
Has the IQ test for the military fallen this far? 20?
Ah, you’re merely jealous because you couldn’t EVEN qualify for the “human” IQ test !
Hah, what test did they give you – the ID 10 T quotient test ?
Lol, you are SOOO naive !
I’d NOT be comfortable living in your little “utopia”.
Do they provide anti – whatever’s that you need, too ?
I love “real people”, even the “conflicted ones”. They also have some little “gems” of wisdom to share, as well as friendship.
You know – watch out for dis guy, dat gal, etc.
THAT is a “diverse” community, My kind of community.
Been everywhere in a cushioned container ain’t living or going. Australia don’t want you. Genealogy; you forgot to include inbred hick.
Lol.
I’d bet a 737 or 747, as well as the 1011 qualify as a “cushioned container”.
The only “cushions” we had in the C130 & C141s were parachutes.
Inbred ? No , not in my bloodline.
How about you ?
Actually I meant once there as opposed to the getting there – so nice, safe compound or were you out mixing it up and staying with the locals?
For myself very few flights – Cairo to Cape Town I hitch-hiked and a boat ride. Flew into Hong Kong but managed to get all the way to Europe over land, another time all the way to the Middle East. Some of us got baby-sat and some of us lived.
No, “out-n-about”
-73 & 74 S.E. Asia
-76 & 77 Panama, & points south, Sinai U.N. TDY.
-77 & 78 S. Korea
The above all Military
(Airborne Scout/Sniper, grunt, whaaat -ever)
-97 To 2003
Canada, Caribbean, Central America, Japan & Korea,
All of CONUS
-Technical Instructor
I always “did a walk about” wherever I went.
I was “baby sat” in The D.R. and Jamaica.
Safe and funny.
Yeah, safe now because I’m not “venturing” anywhere outside our Country, except maybe Ireland, Australia.
Thailand, Taiwan , possibly – still have business colleagues there.
I really don’t feel Americans are welcome MOST places these days.
Too bad, they’ll miss our money.
AND, there are some countries I’m sure to be welcomed – for the rest of my life, however shortened they might make it.
American’s aren’t welcome anywhere and never were, they are seen as loud mouth braggarts – you get a very different attitude if you wave another passport at folk. Funny.
America gave the world the Great Recession 2008 – you really think they’ll miss the money. American’s are not travellers – rarely did I bump into others, Europeans and Aussies mostly. Considering the size of the latter’s population that is amusing. Four American’s in the whole of Africa and I went from the top to bottom, slowly. Less in Asia, but I wasn’t frequenting whorehouses.
Yeah, no shit ?
I do NOT resemble that remark!
While having been totally lethal, I’ve had to “protect” myself (gently) many times.
I can’t say anything about things, times in sub-Sahara Africa.
Unfortunately it seems to be a default thing when overseas. When in the UK and Australia I had friends visit – they were suddenly overly loud and really obnoxious. Why? My local friends were all “wankers, when they going?” Default, default…………………
Lol, I’ve then , and in the “recent” past needed to remind my “Asswhole” countrymen (and 3 women) that we are NOT “better” than the indigionous (sp) people !
Yeah, Hong Kong phreaked me out !
“Monkey Bars ? Really ?
Bangkok, 10 y/o girls, really ?
NOT ME, NOT MY STYLE!
…besides, I was married to an athletic, hot redhead!
No way, was I going to “bring home some incurable disease ! Lol.
Africa : got in some trouble there, working (between enlistments) for a cattle ranch.
Poor old heifers, bulls (sick, lame, lazy) somehow ” fell into ravines, ditches , arroyos.
Oops !
There were starving people around, that made good use of the “culled”, k?
Yeah, don’t be “caught” in the Northern 13 Counties w/BOTH American And Irish papers.
Think accent will give it away and passports not important – religion is. South of the border the most friendly folk in the world, followed by the Aussies – but then a third of their population has Irish heritage.
You got that right ppooo poopoo…Have you taken your remedy yet;?? The Aussies are eternal friends of the US…Just check out their take on muzzies! Same as Putin’s…Welcome, but do not try to monitor or change our system of government…I(slam is one of many systems…It can never be the predominant system…Way back in 1988 I joined a muslim prayer groop in Belfast…very friendly and peaceful; Same now???who knows???
Plenty of Muslim’s in Australia, they have just committed to taking 15,000 Syrians, which considering difference in population means four times what US is contemplating if Hilary gets in. Plenty of Muslim’s in Russia too. Only one country in the Middle east in not secular – religion not running anything. Still plenty of minorities in ME countries too. Lebanon is almost evenly split between Islam and Christian. Duh!
Belfast – who’s going to mess with the idiotic Christian’s there? They can’t sort it out between them.
Perhaps you aren’t as well traveled as you thought. Your statement taken literally means you have never been to the bulk of the Western Hemisphere excluding French Polynesia. But let me put this in term you can understand. The opposite side of the coin. All Britishers are thieves. The Welsh are thieves. The Welsh are part of the British Isles therefore what’s good for British in one area applies to Brits everywhere.
Taffy was a Welshman
Taffy was a thief
Taffy came to my house
And stole a leg of beef.
I find it amazing that in a sub continent about the size of Brazil or smaller you find it necessary to use over a hundred languages. We Americans get along just fine with Spanish, English, Portuguese and a smattering scattering of French and Dutch.
Did you get the other post I sent via email?
Ahhh places you have never been. We have one place in the central part of North America that many of us refer to as foreign country and that is a small Vatican or less size area known as Washington AC DC.
But you will find in your travels as I did when people talk to people it is not the same as when Governments talk to Governments.
14 years and you never learned that? What a waste.
and if you were thinking of the United States there are three which did you mean?
Ahh yes and I solved the AK on strike four as scheduled. The name is now “Who?”
Just wants a bit of thinking and exchanging a stiff upper lip for a stiff upper cut.
Haven’t been to South America – that’s it. Was on way, family dilemma and time to be a little more “serious”. Never use American passport unless in US and accent non-specific, thankfully – much better reception. US – hitched east-west, north-south; haven’t been to six states. Took three years, worked here and there – I blame Jack Kerouac, Indiana Jones, Wilbur Smith and Merryl Streep in “Out of Africa”. Wouldn’t change for anything though.
NOT MUCH COHERENCE IN YOUR POST..
Try following conversation then.
Well, you’ve admitted yourself that you have scant experience with Americans, so given your preconceptions, prejudices- I feel that you must be clairvoyant or just a dumb limey punk.
Lol, I’m more generous with my “pre-judgement.”
You’ve at the very least been given the benefit of a doubt !
By parentage I have two passports – I have no desire to live in either place and thankfully gained more passports to have the choice. UK is a dump, US is merely worse. Suspect I’ve seen more of the US than most on this page – put together.
The US remains a great place regardless or your thoughts…Yes, UK a dump..They are so fookin lazy and useless that they must import educated labor from Ireland..and Scotland…US is not worse…that would be the ultimate insult to this great country of my birth..the country I devoted 29 years to defend…Some bozos and a few limpdick presidents cannot destroy what our wonderful forefathers brought into the world…Others copy our constitution….Tis there and its the best ever…OK poo…take an exlax…you might feel more friendly…
50% of post graduates at the important colleges are foreign, when my father-in-law was at NASA 50% of the important folk were foreign. US has a Nobel Prize for every million people (some we claim are for foreigners), UK has one for every half a million and Germany one for every 300,000. You were saying?
America as a society is considerably worse! President still immaterial – they don’t make the decisions. Duh! At least most Brits seem to know how their country works. Every country has a constitution, some not written – most pre-date the US’s. The Constitution is not running the country – it is merely a few ground rules. Duh!
No exlax needed – I’m right, you just don’t like it. That’s all.
Talking to one of the Disappeareds? A good feature of this site is the plonk button. I’m guessing from your conversation USMC they were switching a lot of recon to a recon/sniper units in the last few years. I was just to the West of LeJeune in the other home of such activities. I’m also making a good guess you were in SandTrek The Next Generation which may or may not beat Leeches. Did you get up into the triangle while in Thailand?
As for what’s it’s name I envision a sad lonely wannabe never with a wheel chair mentality who gets his travel experience from the ‘net. Most definitely has it’s head up it’s fourth point of contact.
You might want to slightly revise your list I’m south of the border on a permanent basis and find it more affordable, more agreeable, and far safer and these days all the amenities are at hand. Now back in the old days. ha ha ha.
The only two places I found where we were not welcome were Iran and North Korea. The difference was people to people not government to government. Come to think of it I’m not crazy about acDC myself.
YES, and I LOVE that “button”!
Me, no. Old fart : “patches” left behind after all Major Combat Units “came back to the world” August ’72.
Advisors, “augmentation”, red haired step children – whatever.
“Patches : pieces & parts of units that has been “called home”.
“Dead Heads” (not like you think, although Garcia was one if my personal Heroes)- DHT’s.
Delay & Harassment Teams were 2-3 man teams sent to help a smaller unit “disengage” from a larger hostile force.
Casualty rate : 86%.
One advantage and about the only one is military retirees can ride US Air Force transport planes on a Space Available basis. The cost used to be paying for an ‘in flight’ lunch box. The flights were easier to catch going back to the USA and out beyond the more populated military areas. My favorite is one that does McChord/Lewis south of Seattle and Tacoma via Travis in California, Hawaii, American Samoa, Christchurch NZ, Sydney OZ and Alice Springs and return. Getting off merchie ships in places like Perth and Darwin allowed great personal travel at several points and thumbing works quite well.
Also did pickup crewing from places like Fiji to NZ. Outbound it was difficult in terms of waiting West bound. Not sure what the system is or charges now it’s supposed to be a retirement perq but much of those have been reneged. I did catch one interesting hop on a contract (civilian owned and crewed) that got me into Mongolia and Ukraine area but I splurged and did the Trans-Siberian for part of that.
The cruiser boats community was full of information on these types of travel methods. Swedes for example could buy a west about ticket and keep using it as long as they didn’t go to any destination that was east in latitude. Long slants from north to south hemisphere worked or they would crew up on one of the needy boats to reposition.
In the really old days we did Western Europe using an Icelandic Air $100 ticket out of NYC and bringing a six month EurRail pass, England was separate no chunnel back then. One could get on a train going anywhere with or without a bicycle. Do a Washup and sleep until whatever destination caught your interest. Once a week or so Youth Hostel for a real clean up and doing the laundry.
Life with a ruck sack and very few complications has a lot to say for itself.
“Enlightenment often come out of the mouths of fools” – well maybe not in your case.
Me thinks you’re full of poop. No idea how “crewing” would get you to Mongolia and the Tran-Siberian choo choo goes nowhere near the Ukraine. Plus it don’t need a “splurge” – ain’t expensive. Plus going off schedule in Russia until recently somewhat difficult, even now. “Eurorail” was at most three months – kissed the Blarney Stone perhaps? Whatever destination caught interest? Really? You need a reservation for a sleeper and many other routes. “Procrastinator Pete” might be a better moniker. Ha, ha, ha! Entertaining if nothing else – thanks for the giggles.
After my daughters first airplane ride the relatives asked her to describe it and she answered “Tooth Paste.” Not quite was expected they asked what did she mean.
“You go into this big building and then they shove you in this long tube and when you get there they squeeze you out into a building that looks like the one you left.”
The nine great monotheistic religions of the world, yes even including the Islamics as I recall, say the same thing calling it the Golden Rule. One actually practices what they preach.
What a very cryptic remark. I can’t figure out what the nine religions are, which makes it difficult to identify the one.
There are, at present, nine major religions considered monotheistic meaning one God (but with variations).
They are in no particular order
The Abrahamic Group. Christianity (which includes Catholocism and Protestantism, Islam, Judaism, Bahai’i in one group of five.
and the Indo-Iranian Group, composed of four Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, and Zoroastrianism
The minor groups include Cao Dai (Caodaiism) , Cheondoism, , Deism , Eckankar , Mandaeism , Rastafari , Ravidassia , Seicho no Ie , Shaivism , Shaktism , Tengrism ), Tenrikyo (Tenriism) , and Vaishnavism , Atenism , and Yahwism.
The Golden Rule of course is Do Unto Others as You would have them do unto you. One of these religions had a hand out of sorts which listed the golden rule in the words of each of the nine major monotheistic religions and used it to point their religious theory that if God was able to make all in his name then it made sense God would provide the different paths etc. That religion the Bahai’s are the only one’s that practice complete religious tolerance something not seen since the days of Temujin Ghengis Khan. Though the methods are different. I would not include significant elements of the Islamic subdivision. But then I’m not in charge of admissions or rejections .
I left the blue underlined parts in to see if the url links would follow.
I didn’t think it cryptic at the time.
You didn’t think it cryptic because you knew the answer! Now I do too. Thanks for the info.
Buddhism really – no God! A bunch of these are Hindu which is Polytheism. Have you considered checking things first or maybe a lobotomy? The term “retarded monkey” comes to mind. Don’t fall overboard – ha, ha, ha!
Buddhism believes in a Creator…They explain well the many many ASPECTS of that Creator…some uninformed dumshit bigoted christians call Buddhism poly thiestic…My middle daughter was married in a Buddhist ceremony by the beach…Most Profound..Nothing athiestic.l..I was privileged to speak with the Presider, and found complete agreement in principle…Universal truth is Superior…Any seeker must seek and find..
Monotheism believes in a deity – there is no one to worship in Buddhism. Inner contemplation, Sikhism is ague-ably the same.
Elizabeth then you must convince these good ones to get ride of the bad ones , otherwise
they are all the same to me.
Does your argument also apply to all Christians or all Americans? Or is it reserved solely for Muslims?
Lizzy probably has a secret fetish for being beaten and raped. Liberals are like that.
Rich is absolutely correct. If you are not a Muslim, you are an infidel and therefore, not fit to live. Obama has saturated our country with Muslims and is planning on bringing more here. Be prepared to defend yourself…it’s going to happen.
I’M GUESSING YOU ALSO BELIEVE THE USE OF THE WORD CHRISTIAN IS INFLAMMATORY WHEN REFERRING TO THE CHRISTIAN CRUSADES!
Guess again. I have never even heard of them referred to as the Christian Crusades.
GOOGLE IT!
Then move to Iran. You will never see inflammatory remarks against the Moslems,,,,,Just against MY country.
And just for the record any believer in the Koran is all about convert and submit to sharia law or be killed, and that is damn near every single one of your billion non-terrorists.
The Muslims who were not terrorists did not carry out the attack on 9/11. The ones that did were Islamic terrorists. If you are not an Islamic terrorist, it shouldn’t bother you at all.
If they are not “terrorists” then the facts should not be of concern to them. Leave off the Word “Terrorists” and then they should be offended!
Dolly, I think you have missed the point. No one has ever said that they were not terrorists. The issue is calling them ‘Islamic” terrorists.
I feel sure that you would feel offended if the two boys who shot up Columbine High School had been referred to – on a memorial – as Christian terrorists.
You missed my point
Obviously. What was it?
The term used “Islamic Terrorist” clearly define who they are!
Yes. They are terrorists. And, yes, they are muslims. But to call them Islamic terrorists is the same as saying that Adam Lanza and Timothy McVeigh were Christian terrorists.
I’m guessing that you are not overjoyed to be lumped together with the extremists from your religion.
Sorry Facts are Facts!
Elizabeth…an accurate description stigmatizes NO ONE. Only is a liberal fantasy world…
I would agree that an accurate description stigmatizes no one, but Islamic is too general and does stigmatize the entire religion. Perhaps they should put Islamist terrorist as that is a much more specific description of radicals within the Muslim faith.
Those Islamic Muslim murderers were cheered by fellow Muslims everywhere as though they won the world cup ⚽.never forget that.
I would not forget it if it were even half-way true.
The danger is that they are not terrorists until they are. No one seems to catch on to them being “turned”. Therein lies the danger and the very nature of terrorism.
You make a very good point. And it applies to non-Muslims as well. How many times have we read about how the American who went out and killed multiple victims was quiet and unthreatening. Until they were. Think Dylan Roof, Adam Lanza, and many others.
Fair enough. I struggle with accepting any “religion” after a life full of it & its failures. My relationship with my higher power is totally independant of religion today.
Those who are not terrorists are the ones who have not attacked yet. That is the only difference between a moderate and a jihadist. The moderate is one who holds the feet of the one the terrorist is beheading.
Quit trying to rewrite history, muslime bastards pulled off this attack, and we DO NOT need to coddle them in ANY fashion, they are the ENEMY, PERIOD!
The awful part is that these terrorists were given an education by this government to learn to fly these planes!
Well Muslims follow the Curan. If they believe in Allah and Mohammed then they also accept jihadists. Pew research interviewed over 33,000 Muslims, depending on which continent they live in anywhere from half to over two thirds believe in the practice of jihad. British Muslims are fine with this religious warfare- ie belief it is necessary to promote Islam and correct the perceived wrongs against Muslims. Look at the chart and tell me why we need to cater to this group when they do not even identify as American or British? They only identify as primarily Muslim. The graph below was based on 2009 data
http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2009/12/1445-1.gif
Let me start by saying that I do not promote any religion. In fact I wish that religions would just go away.
Then let me ask you how you justify Christian proselytizing?
It does not say just Islamic, but Islamic terrorists. Therefore is shouldn’t stigmatise anyone who isn’t a terrorist.
May be those who are not should yell and scream at those who cause the damage instead of passively ignoring or cowering.
Perhaps a realistic lable will finally encourage an onslaught of discouragement and proper outrage at the perps in their midst.
Only because you have such shallow knowledge of the ins and never outs of Islam. It takes STUDY, which takes time. It takes History, modern scholars, a world view. It is just as al Sisi has said, If Islam continues as is, the world will have to turn against it. And al Sisi knows the dangers.
It is too important to future generations for you to be shallow/surface without really digging in to what this is all about & the threads of agreement between all sects/schools of Both Sunni and Shia. They have differences BUT there is a common thread dangerous to Freedom in general. Just seriously without ‘apology’ try to see/study what we are talking about.
In 1952 a law was passed that prohibits Muslims from entering our country. In the Constitution it reads that any group of people who want to enter this country with the intent to change our laws and our Constitution are forbidden from residing in our country. It’s time for a new set of crusades to remove then and return them back to their country. They want to destroy our Constitution and take over our country. We are a Christian nation and Muslims do not belong here. That includes our president, and every sports player who has found muslimism. Take their millions and get out.
Well for one thing all “muslims” support terrorism. Why do I say that? They do not report misdeeds going on in the mosques. They do not speak out against these dreadful people. They complain about our country and try to change our ways. They ALL need to get the heck out of our country and go back to being sand babies who believe in the archaic, barbaric, and mutilating sharia law.
All Muslims do not support terrorism, just as all Christians do not support the death penalty.
Sorry but if they do not support then they would be more cooperative in reporting suspicious incidents….THEY DON’T
Are you sure about that? Or is it just what you would like to think?
How much suspicious activity does the average person have access to? Whether they are muslims or christians. How much suspicious activity have you reported? And how many times has the “suspicious activity” reported by non-muslims been insultingly banal. Like two men speaking a foreign language on a plane – it was Hindi. That’s just one example. There have been others.
Just things to think about.
It is a known fact that the mosques tolerate the planning of attacks in their facility. Unfortunately, you can not tell the difference between the different cultures. And yes it is scary. And it is also unfortunate that we have to be aware of our surroundings. Perhaps you have not seen this…so FYI here is a link for you to review. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks
How about this one?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrqyUARW8AEJ6X3.jpg:large
Those figures have to be old…Just in one month at The Pulse 49 people died at the hands of a RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORIST. Praising allah as he commuted this atrocity
They seem to be from 2014. And I don’t know over how many years the average is taken. So you are right to question them,
But even 49 dead in one go is not going to change the average much. Even if we put all 49 into the third row (All Islamic jihadist terrorists) it is still less than lawnmowers.
yes they are old…but…still sad none the less.
Agreed. How many countries, I wonder, have to report that their citizens kill more than 11,000 of their fellow citizens each year?
This graphic and question applies to muslims as a whole as well as Syrians.
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All Muslims are potential terrorists if they are not already. Soak them all in PIG BLOOD.
What warped sense of humor led you to choose you name and avatar? At least you are an equal opportunity bigot.
T.F.B. !
Texas FArm Bureau??
Tools for Bending??
Tax Favored Benefits?
Time for Bed???
Lol, for YOU :
“Time For Bed” , Bonzo !
You are THAT funny, THAT intelligent “Bonzo”!!
Just kidding !
Bonzo was more intelligent than you.
Murderers in waiting : Indonesia.
What does that mean?
AGAIN, your ignorance.
Well Elizabeth ,, when they start cleaning their own house then maybe I may show some resemblance of respect. Until then they are all untrustworthy.
All of them? All 1.2 billion?
I think this wacko is really the “ALASKA LADY”….Don’t answer her, she just keeps going on the opposite side of everything
As I’m guessing you are referring to me, I’m going to respond. Do you see no advantage to “going on the opposite side of everything”?
Or are you OK with just accepting as fact the last thing you happened to come across on the internet?
must be the reason you are an atheist then.
I do not follow your logic.
Not at all. I ceased to believe in a supernatural god about 40 years before the internet was an everyday feature of our lives.
She’s aklady in disguise.
YesMelmack. Sounds just like her. Don’t respond. She’s a Muslim apologist and full of bs.
Definitely not a Muslim apologist. I abhor ALL religions.
Sorry, you’re a Soros troll and terrorist apologist.
Again, not so. I have absolutely no connection to George Soros, and I do not apologize for terrorism in any form.
Actions speak louder than words
Actions? What actions?
The sophistry you engage in
And.. you are DUMB!! STUPID.
Maybe just not yet exposed to the facts of the goals and intent or watching the Movement Worldwide. When you step back and see the organization working as a whole, things become more clear. It is dangerous to any country that wants to keep Universal Human Rights and lifestyle of Freedom alive.
A UN Believer. Personally, I care far more about individual inalienable rights described i the Declaration of Independence and supposedly secured by the Constitution. I could give a damn less what other countries with other cultures and outer values are willing to understand.
Amen…. Marines 1973-83. My oath was to the Constitution and to defend our country from enemies both foreign and domestic… Obeyme is part of the domestic terrorists just like Clinton. Neither are champions of our Constitution and want it changed to suit their beliefs.
Right on brother and thank you for your service sir.
Airborne (leg) !
Stand tall, “ABOVE THE REST” !
82nd, 101st when it was, A collection of other airborne assignments out of Smoke Bomb Hill.
Semper Fi, Bro! (‘Nam 68-69).
If you believe in the U.N. you have an erroneous picture of the U.N.
One which espouses the “one world order”.
It’s working VERY well for the EU, right?
Idiot.
Definition :
Normal I.Q. ( intelligence quotient) may not apply to you.
YOU therefore , probably have YOUR intelligence measured differently by a table well below “cognitive thought patterns”.
I.D. 10 T. Quotient, probably!
Sorry, you need to be a more aware “parrot”.
Reread my post, John. That opening was a derogatory reference to the one preceding it.
Dude or dudette !
I was ” high-jacked” by a text. Messed up my opening.
I’m in total agreement with you.
That was for “one world idiots, et all”, OK ?
Sorry.
Yep
You are sick in the head then.
Wish I could follow your logic. I have no connection to George Soros and I am against terrorism and that makes me sick in the head? What are you trying to say.
He’s trying to say you’re a stupid nut job AND a moron to boot…………….
Aaahh! Thanks for explaining.
No problem, you are soooooo welcome………
Sorry! I read your comment wrong. It didn’t say you were against terrorism, it said you didn’t apologize for terrorism.
Yup. Apology accepted.
Lizzy Pimple(whitehead).
well. ho hum. Elizabeth, you are abhorable, truth be told. the day when your twisted, crippled, perverted split tail is roasting is hell will be a good day. No doubt your rotten ass children are even worse than you. You are piece of total stinking rubble and we hate you.. literally .. we hate you..
Darwin is your way…I’m all for that. Time to put you in the field and see if your fit to survive.
She’s the type who would turn and fire upon her own troops.
She is a VERY stupid TROLL
A very stupid Soros troll
She has Liberalmania.
And the Muslim Bastard
in the White House also.
Using this ‘style’ works against the intent to bring to light the Islamic Movement. Anything ranting and working against getting people to see, will destroy us just as sure as the Facts of Islam.
Toughen Up. It is way too late to try and play nice.
julea bacall, I am unsure as to the meaning of your words. Are you meaning we should be POLITICALLY CORRECT?
REWRITING history and being politically correct is the danger to the Truth!
Think she means that P.C and rewriting history does not take the place of truth. It only diminishes it. Just my take .
irish1919, thank you!
Yes, Irish got it and that when telling the truth to people who need to hear it, snapping like a rabid dog will never open any ears or eyes.
do you just want to rant –or really get the message out.
You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. The facts about Islam speak for themselves.
Lol !
YES !
Pour honey AND shit on a Muslim : pigs will devour them/its.
he’s one muslim who should have been given a .50 brain implant so he could go and see allah
Allah aka Satan.
Al’Lah is not satan, though he behaves like him. Al’Lah is in fact a Babylonian mountain god. A pagan god. Al’Lah is NOT the God of Abraham who is worshiped by Jews and Christians. That is why Muslims hate Jews and Christians so much.
He killed more than 500, and married a 6. year old girl. they are treating this pedo as a god.?
Allah was considered one of three moon gods by the Chaldeans and gods in man’s imaginations are no gods at all. This was long before the islam religion was ever thought of…. Muhammad was just a man who hated the Jewish and Christian people and he chose the name allah for the god of his imagination. Muhammad claimed to be a prophet of the so-called god of his imagination.
Islam is nothing but a false religion claiming to worship a false god.
Well said. The Koran instructs Muslims to kill all non Muslims. One God created all mankind and I’m sure he didn’t tell one group to kill all others ( his creations- no way) The Koran is a corrosive document and will never promote Coexistence of other races within the same country. That’s why the Muslims have been isolated for over 1400 years. No one trusts them and for good reason ( like setting on a time bomb). Their Koran should be banned from all civilized societies, their Mosques torn down and all Muslims must be sent back to all Muslim societies. They breeds terrorists and they have sworn an oath to devide and conquer ( biggest haters on the planet-well over 50% follow the Koran to the letter- do the math ). The POS in the White House is responsible and against the wishes of over 80% of Americans he opened the flood gates by design to millions to immigrate within the U.S. – putting Americans in harms way. He should be put in prison for his actions along with the corrupt Clintons (6 th biggest crime family in NY) Imagine America looking like Beirute in another 15 yrs. This is not an option it’s a must do for all our survival. What a legacy the stupid and corrupt will leave for our kids/grandkids if this is not addressed. All being funded by the Billionare George Sorros ( Socialist and known destroyer of countries).
Another good reason we need Trump – he gets it and understands the problems – America needs Trump to Survive.
Go Trump!
NO, they should be sent to hell where they belong…….
Believe me that’s coming in the end. Trying to help Trump get elected and to fix the dammage should be our first concerns. Black Jack Pershing knew how to deal with these people- more like him would be in all our best interests.
Go Trump!
that calls to mind a film..starring Gary Cooper..[whose name escapes me at the moment]…it was set in the philippines in the early twentieth century at a time when the U.S. Army was attempting to suppress islamic resistance…Cooper portrayed an army officer attempting to interrogate an obstinate captured muslim…in a last ditch effort to get him to “cooperate”…coop displayed a pigskin and threatened to bury him in it!…a gesture that proved to be highly effective!……
Nuke all Muslim countries.
If by a miracle Mr. Trump would overcome the corruption in the election process they will not allow him to ever enter the Oval Office in January… No man will ever save USA and make us great again… USA has been on a downward spiral for more than 50 years.. She has allowed the teaching of evolution in our schools, she banded prayer in our schools, she has perverted our history, she has embraced homosexual, she has slaughtered approx. 68 million babies through abortion…. and were there no other sins the sin of the shedding of the innocent blood of these babies through abortion has desecrated our nation..
God does not take His warnings lightly, for all of His warnings has or will come truth in His timing…. The Bible clearly states that cleansing comes with fire and the fire of a nuclear holocaust will fall from the East to the West, and in one hour she will be made desolate.
Today we are seeing the final days of United States… Just as God allowed heathen nations to come against Israel because of her great sins against God’s WORD, so too is God allowing the heathen nations to come against USA.
If everyone thought as you do then there would be no hope- however most in America are understanding what’s at steak and they are coming to the polls in large numbers in Nov with a 55 gal can of whip ass. The Journeys not over this is the eye opener to piss off the Americans to take action and institute the needed changes to redirect
Our new direction. No more liberal bleeding heart solutions – hard and stiff sentences as well as putting the corrupt on trial. God will come back to America and help us to shine again. The Christian soldiers are uniting and coming in force. World order is unacceptable.
Go Trump!
I hear what saying but you are totally wrong about me…. Sadly, most Christians don’t know what they believe, and even worse very few will even read through the Bible… I am a man of great faith in God’s Holy WORD, which is the absolute truth and there is nothing that can change the ways of man but God. There are none good, no not even one… all have sinned. The truth of the human heart can be found in Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
During the times of the prophets Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and the like, the Pharisees and Sadducees viewed themselves as wearing a cloak of righteousness and the Jewish people as a holy people belonging to God, and that His protection will always be upon His chosen people… yet they were idolaters and sinners like everyone else.
A loving Father will never allow his children to go astray without warning them. After many years of warnings and the children not changing their ways required a much more harsh response from the Father, the discipline came in the form of heathen nations… Thus USA time for discipline has come because God has been warning USA for more than 40 yrs.
Aug, ’94 after reading the Engineer’s Report of the WTC #2 Tower bombing I laid down and begin praying. After the prayer I said, they are coming back to “Hit” this #2 Tower again and when they do they will “Take” it to the ground. I spoke this warning for the next 7 years until the morning of 9/1101… I now tell how that was the first of three major attacks and the 2nd major attack will be approx. 1000 times greater and than the final. God does make mistakes and He has never allowed the destruction of a nation nor of it’s people before sending His warnings hoping the hearts of the people might turn to Him that He might save them. If your interested in greater details Google: “watchman48 RFC Newsletter #101,” and if you don’t believe in God using a mere man to send His messages to the people, Google: “watchman48 The Greater Message.”
Thanks am, but I’ll just simply read God’s word- rather than believing a “mere human”!
Greg, surveys have shown us that less than 2% of those that claim to be born again Christians have never read through the Bible even once, and most who claim to be Christian are not even a born again Christian. They like Mr. Trump don’t believe they have done anything that they need to ask God’s forgiveness for.
Evidently you have a problem with comprehension or you haven’t seriously read through the entire Bible and that’s okay because it is not a prerequisite to you being a born again Christian…
Most of those that God used were not the educated, they were shepherds, fishermen, harlots, demon possessed, Balaam (Who was a self-righteous prophet seeking his own gain) and even an ass to speak to Balaam…
The Bible clearly reveals that judgment is coming and the vast majority of today’s Christians don’t want to hear that.
In Apr. 1994 the Holy Spirit led me to the prophecies which God revealed to Pastor Dumitru Duduman by speaking in my left ear three days in a row… And I had witnesses to this event. After asking for the two confirmations to verify this as being the truth God confirmed this. I have no reason to tell lies about this, in fact to tell lies of the Holy Spirit would be blasphemy and that I am not going to do…
Again in Apr. 2000 I was led to another prophecy and this pastor led me to the third prophecy all revealing a nuclear attack on USA.
If you have ever read through the Book of Ezekiel you should understand why I am taking the time to tell these things that I tell…
Correct Jesus was a man. So is a son of god which means a believer of God. It’s mention in Genesis and other OT chapters as well. Sadly mainstream Christianity is following wrong teachings not what the Bible RALLY teaches.
Jesus is like our brother as HE HIMSELF SAID in JESUS SAID
Mat 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is MY BROTHER, and SISTER, and MOTHER.
Hope many more Christians will wake out of the ancient Roman Catholic TRINITY LIE. It was never mentioned in the earliest New Testament Bible which were written in the GREEK.
Still disagree? There’s the search box. Seek and ye shall find.
Jesus was fully man and at the same time He is fully God. You evidently have a problem with comprehension or else you have never seriously read through the entire Bible…
True, the word trinity is not in the Bible, neither is the word Bible in the Bible. Here is a link that will provide you with the proof needed for the concept of the Trinity http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-proof-texts.htm
Jesus raised the dead and did many miracles to prove His Divinity.
The sons (Or watchers) of God that is mentioned in the Old Testament is really the fallen angels. Though we are created beings we are considered the sons of Adam as told in the Old Testament, once we become born again we are considered to be God’s children.
So, I am just guess you are most likely a Mormon, Seventh Day Adventist or Jehovah Witness, am I right?
You are right that many Christians don’t know what they believe . Many believe half truths such as “Love the sinner but not the sin” what is in the Bible is love your neighbor . That encompasses all sinners so to say love the sinner is neither in the bible and is redundant. The second part not the sin is totally not a truth. By saying this we are in effect judging one to be more sinful than ourselves which in essence we are saying you sin but I will love you anyway. So many Christians believe that we are to love the sinner but not the sin as being in the bible . Jesus never said that. He did say love your neighbor . There are many other half truths which many Christians have said including myself. How about “God helps those who help themselves”. Or Fid will never give us more than we can handle? Really? So sometimes we Christians just don’t get it right. All too often we may feel something we have heard must have come frim
I sure hope you are correct
it’s really just common sense…europe has become flooded with islamic immigrants..who have become quite troublesome…trump’s policies seek to spare us all of that!….
Yes all true but understand that their immigration all over the world fits within their plan to divide ( they multiply like rats ) and eventually conquer. Their only intention is to kill all non Muslims and end the world “Jihad”. Think about it – Obama has allowed over 3 million into America And the poles show that over 50% believe the Koran ( Trash) word for word. What if 1 1/2 million strap on bombs and go out into public and detonate around others – this would devastate our society and the fear would destroy the country- we cannot allow this possibility to manifest itself ( not to mention the burden this imposes on our FBI to monitor these types- overwhelming) We must demand that Muslim worship, The Koran, and the Muslims forced upon our society by the madman in the White House to be removed from our soil. There are other places in the world that are all Muslim and that’s where they should be sent- no exceptions – they are a threat to our constitution and people. The POS in the White House should be imprisoned for crimes against the American people , our country, and our constitution ( based on Judea Christian values). Muslim faith is hateful and threatening to all non Muslims and they breed terrorism ( that’s why they have been isolated for over 1400 yrs).Common sense and self preservation must be our solution or we are part of the problem.
Trump gets it and he can help us fix this problem.
Go Trump!
Anything can happen and you’re right that this president is the problem.Do we think Clinton will be any different . This is what I feel will happen . I think Clintons health issues will force her to drop out. The Main Street media cannot keep covering for her if her health is constantly getting worse . At some point the electorate on both sides will say enough. This woman is not physically fit to run. Then Joe Biden or Bernie comes running in to steal the election. So we have no Hillary but either a Bernie or a Joe for POTUS. Trump will lose. Here’s the kicker . None of it matters because whatever happens in this election does not change the final outcome . Christ will come again either way. Be ready.
Naw, if she-bitch does win, they’ll (“The New World Order” people) put her down, just like I believe they did – a certain “supreme court justice”!
Like they didn’t with that black-fella – sissy’s.
We must clean house and take out the trash. The progressive vote buying politicians must stopped from using tax payer money to buy parasite votes. Our elected officials must assume responsibility for their actions. The damage that Obama and his loyal liberal politicians must be fully exposed and their wasteful policies clearly and fully should be listed and explained. Due to my age I am able to remember what primarily caused our public school system to reach the sorry state that it’s in now. JFK allowed the teachers to unionize and within twenty years after that happened things started downhill. I heard a news program on Sunday that reported only one in five students will be ready for college or serve in the military. Obama has weakened our military and intel forces more than Clinton did and with his increasing of the national debt locked us into serious long term damage.
If Hellary becomes our next president we will be fully in decline. If you can’t see that on the horizon you are a ‘natural liberal democrat’.
“We have met the enemy”
…and they are U.S. (Congress & Senate).
“WE” can “clean house” in the States that are NOT “welfare states” – those along BOTH coasts- well, it’s Civil War 2.0 time !
They’ve too much “trash” that are addicted to “government cheese “!
LBJ voters, for sure !
BOTH coasts are full of human toxic waste !
Rave on, preacher
yeah…most of this empty-headed proselytizing strikes a lot of people these days as just a delusional rant…but that’s the beauty of this country…you’re free to do it..as long as you don’t try to force it on me..radical adherents of islam however…do not share that view…
If one denys the truth there is no where you can run when the walls come crashing down…. And they will come crashing down in God’s timing… Just as they did on Sept. 11, 2001.
Exactly. 49% of Americans do not believe in God. Quite telling as to where we are heading as a society . But this is true. Those who do believe know what’s coming.A great . cleansing. The United States is not even mentioned in the last days . We are quickly becoming a Godless country. I know what my fate will be. I am only passing through this life. I believe in God and I firmly believe in John 3:16. It’s what sets me free and millions of others who believe . Once that number of non believers passes 50 % it will be over. Just look at our society . We persecute successful people . We persecute Christians . We promote same sex marriage and denounce traditional and moral marriage. We treat transgenders as if they are Heroes. I mean look how Bruce Jenner was called courageous for becoming a woman. Really? I would find him much more courageous as a good husband and father. Not someone I would want my children looking up to. God has the final word. That’s a fact none of us can escape .
yeah,..the “progressives” seem to be calling the shots these days…and ushering us down a path a great many of us would prefer not to follow…this probably accounts for a great many of those “deplorable” trump supporters…who would like to call a halt to all of this..or at least to seek a different path!…
Exactly? I have read a couple of surveys that were taken which shows that less than 2% of those that claim to be born again Christians have ever read through the Bible even once… There are millions of Christians that don’t think they have done anything that they need to ask forgiveness from God for. I have talked with many Christians that see no fault with abortion and homosexuality…. How can one understand what the truth is if they refuse to read the truth for themselves…? There are many pastors that are teaching false truths in the churches today such as prosperity, new age teachings and other strange doctrines.
I believe we are the Mystery Babylon, if you will Google, “watchman48 RFC Newsletter #101,” you should get a good idea why I say that and if you don’t think God still interacts with man please Google: “watchman48 The Greater Message.”
What is really sad is that there are Christian theologians who are actually trying to alter scripture much like a Supreme Court Justice would put their own interpretation to it. Similar to those who want to get rid of our constitution and replace it with another to quote unquote get up with the times. The constitution is a sacred document . It is written for all time and it still applies today as it did the day it was written. The theologians today who want to re interpret the Bible to reflect the secularism of today . It’s really crazy . The Bible is the most sacred of all. So bottom line I am a Christian but need to improve myself everyday. It’s not easy being a Christian today but imagine what the disciples of Christ went through . Persecution in most all cases. It’s happening today in this country . Founded on Judeo Christian principles. Today we are a nation of political correctness and at least for half of America Godlessness. I know what is coming but I do not know the day or year. I do know I better be prepared. Quite frankly Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton will have any affect on my preparedness . I believe in Jesus, not the likes of human politicians.
Oh, that all who claimed to be Christian believed in the Bible as you. Most however pick and choose what they want to believe and forget the other parts of the Bible…
God’s plans will not be interrupted by man’s foolishness…. He knew man’s rebellious heart would reject His Son from the very beginning…. Thus, the plan to educate man through the teachings of His prophets then and the Old Testament even today of the need for a coming Savior…..
I am happy to hear you are a Christian… None of us are the Christian that we should be… It is a never ending process in seeking to be more and more like Christ…. Thank God we don’t have to be perfect, He accepts us as we are as long as we continue to seek His heart.
may God Bless You and all your Loved Ones.
I know He interacts with me . He answers me in three ways . Yes, no and not now
He can do that and so much more…. Please in your prayers ask God to help you to be even more sensitive to the Holy Spirit’s voice and His very presence within you… If you read “The Greater Message,” you can easily see how much more God can do for you and for others through you….
Yes all prophecy is coming to fruition. Funny how man always thinks he has the power and the answers. The truth is found in the Bible. Just the fact that we probably have the 2 worst canidates in history running for POTUS is just more proof this country is completely unraveling . The fact that we no longer can have just a men’s room and a women’s room is a sign. The fact that Christianity is under attack by the politicians in this country is a sign. The fact that half our children are living with one parent is a sign. The fact that abortion is a legal business in our country is a sign. The fact that 49% of Americans do not believe in God is a sign. The end is all foretold in the greatest book ever written. There is only one savior and it isn’t Trump or Clinton. There is not a single politician I would ever trust . I put my faith in Christ.
AMEN, Amen….
All one hears from the likes of Obama(a Muslim himself) is that Islam is a peaceful religion . Really? Where are all those peaceful Muslims to come out and denounce these terrorists . They do not therefore they are complicit in the acts. Islam is not a peaceful religion. It states unequivocally that no infidel ( anyone who doesn’t proclaim Islam as his or her religion to be put to death. Sounds peaceful enough to me. We can all thank this president and Hillary for setting the Middle East on fire and bringing this hate and destruction to our country. Trying to change regimes and keep our borders open have allowed all these attacks to happen. We are not safe and will never be safe from these jihadists as long as we continue to put inadequate people in the White House . Clinton has failed as Secretary of State and based on her record we might as well put a gun to our heads if she becomes POTUS. we are not a country if we do not enforce our laws and close our borders . Are borders and our laws make us a country.
All good points- I share your pain. I never thought in my lifetime We would have a president who intentially would be doing everything he can to destroy our country. I can’t imagine not having a congress to oppose him and impeach him especially when we can see his destruction by opening the floodgates to millions of Muslims ( must be corruption in DC). I came across a letter on line that tells is like it is:
Father to son
You wonder why our country is screwed up son?
It’s what happens when your nation elects an obscure turd from the sewage catch basin of the corrupt shit hole that is Chicago politics.
An unqualified, community organizing, American hating, Islam loving Racist mulatto faggot who has as much business occupying the People’s White House as a serial child rapist does running a day care center. A turd that no matter how much glitter these left-wing ass pimples dumped on it still couldn’t change the harsh truth that despite the glam and hype, underneath its still a stinking piece of shit. And that’s what you have running the greatest free nation in the history of the world straight into the ground…on purpose and by design. MAKE NO MISTAKE AMERICA this worthless son of a bitch
Is & forever will be recognized as The Worst President in The History of America!
Go Trump!
we’ve been “meddling” in that part of the world for far too long…with predictable results!…trump’s comments that the previous status quo may have been preferable…while viewed as “sacrilege” by some..actually have merit!…the old adage:”east is east..and west is west..and never the twain shall meet”…while coined long ago..still seems to be valid…
when left to their own devices…you wind up with something like the taliban..or isis…a brutal society of crazies who reject the modern world!…or “closet groups”…like the saudis..who pretend to be accepting of the modern world while secretly funding the fundamentalists….
Muhammad was a fucking pedophile PERIOD……….
Yes, he was a pedophile but he was much more than just that… He was a liar and deceiver of his people, he was a murderer and anyone that follows his teachings are deceived and bound for Hell….
well let’s see..he was born dirt poor..yet died rich..in essence,..a self-made man…if he were alive today..he’d probably be defined as a REPUBLICAN!….
The Rothschild, Rockefeller’s, Clintons, Kennedys, George Soros and other top democrats are self made. They are destroying the USA. Of course most Republicans are not any better.
You really need to get off the party band wagon and learn the truth. This world is rejecting God’s WORD, they rebellious and defiant against their creator.
Prophecy is being fulfilled daily before our eyes. The USA will give up sovereignty for the NWO to be complete.
You seriously need to wake-up…. If one denies the truth there is no where you can run when the walls come crashing down…. And they will come crashing down in God’s timing… Just as they did on Sept. 11, 2001.
No man/woman nor all of USA Armed Forces is going to save this nation. Christ will save the individuals that humble themselves and asks for forgiveness of their sins…
…(yawn!)…….
Thanks.! we learn something new every day.
All Gods are in man’s imaginations.
I cannot even imagine the greatness of my God. It is beyond anything I can comprehend yet God is responsible for my very life on this earth, as temporary as it will be. You see I have faith . I do not imagine God because I could never comprehend how great He is. I feel His presence. My favorite verse in the Bible is John 3:16. You see salvation is offered to all who believe.Its a promise
So, in your great wisdom what have you done to search for God or do you just claim to know all things about everything there is?
Tell me if you will, what your great wisdom as accomplish for you…. Are you a great scientist, or a great doctor. or a great politician, or a great author whose made millions of dollars…. Worldly wisdom and riches may buy a person some extra time in this world but it will never buy one’s way into Heaven.
The worldly man may joke about God’s existence but in the end he will still stand before Christ for the final judgment where he will here Christ say, “Depart from Me, I never knew you,” and the worldly man will get his wish of being separated from God for all eternity with him gnashing his teeth and a never ending thirst.
What do you expect from satan ?
Kind of hard to believe isn’t it? Just remember that when you have to deal with one of them. I do but then again I have trust issues with them too, I just don’t trust any of them period. Never will either
…in the process of creating “order out of chaos”…he left us with some pretty deplorable rules to live by….workable and acceptable in the 6th century…but hopelessly out of touch today!…
Jesus Christ aka Yahweh, is the one only True God. All others do not exist.
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The Jewish name for God) EL or Elohim in caps = God the Creator, but the same word IN LOWER CASE has a DIFFERENT MEANING. elohim in lower case means a unique powerful ruler. (Arron, Moses was referred as an elohim, lower case only!)
SAME APPLIES with the English definition of “God”, and “god”. ( Check it out yourself) Point I’m trying to make is Jesus never claimed to BE God.
Example, check out these three verses in the Bible to start. JESUS SAID
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(1) Mat 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is MY BROTHER, and SISTER, and MOTHER.
(Interesting verse,…..if he was God the creator why would Jesus call his followers , my BROTHER, SISTER, or MOTHER?)
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(2) John 20;17
17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and TO MY GOD, AND YOUR GOD.
(Now why would Jesus say that if he was God the Creator? Think about it, if Jesus was God why would God need to say my Father your Father, MY God, your God?)
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(3) MATTHEW 4 ; 10 Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him ONLY shall you serve.’”
(Please note God was printed in UPPER CASE)
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NOW,….drum roll,……. check out NUMBERS 23; 19
GOD IS NOT A MAN, THAT HE SHOULD LIE, NEITHER THE SON OF MAN, THAT HE SHOULD REPENT HATH HE SAID, AND SHALL HE NOT DO IT? OR HATH HE SPOKEN, AND HE NOT MAKE IT GOOD?
Genesis says “Let US make man in our image.” Jesus told the Pharisees: “Before Abraham was born, I AM. The Burning Bush said tell them “I AM” has sent you.” John says that “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was With God, and the Word was God.” “Jesus said “Whoever sees the SON, sees the Father”. Tomas said when seeing Jesus Resurrected, “My Lord and My GOD!!” Jesus did not correct him. The Bible has many passages that show Jesus Christ is God. One God with 3 distinct personalities. We are made in His Image. Triune also. We are Soul, Body and Spirit, but are one complete being”
God did make us in His own image so the fact that we are of mind soul and body makes perfect sense that God is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Pretty plain to me!
Replace the Jesus Christ aka Yahweh term with Allah and you have the flag of ISIS and Saudi Arabia…….We are headed on a collision course with islam and the only way to stop it is with a few lo-yield nukes for they will not stop EVER–(Like the “Terminator”—-I spent 3 yrs. in Saudi Arabia (Mecca area) and know these animals well…..There are some very good folks there; but nor many……6,000 years of very tight tribal inbreeding has produced a boatload; and then some; of five star lunatics….and believe me they ARE; hence ISIS……and they have been going at it since 633 A. D. and oil has put them on the fast-track and they are making up for all that ‘lost time’….
Allah is the pagan Moon God it is THE REAL REASON THAT A CRECENT MOON AND A STAR REPRESENT ISLAM AND IS FOUND ON TOP OF THEIR MOSQUES AND IS ON EVERY MUSLIM FLAG. This is a pagan religion. Their center of their most holy place in MECCA is a Rock they call the KABBAH. it’s actually a black meteorite that they believe is black because ………it has taken on their sin!! So they have a moon God and worship a rock that fell from the sky! That is not the God Of Abraham Isaac and Jacob or David or Jesus.
NO NO NO…….it actually means A BLACK BLACK HEART, full of hate…….
I spent 3 yrs in Saudi Arabia and lived 20 miles from that ‘holy bullshit city of MECCA-‘-in At Ta’if- (Summer capitol)(6500 ft. alt.) -and know a great deal about it——-slave markets are common—–(-black/ African Christians; captured in the never ending muzzie vs. Christian wars in the Horn of Africa) $600/ each …. I had 2 ea.. RSAF CWO ‘maint. school’ students who were great human beings and visited relatives three or four times a month–in Mecca –and passed on all this info to me——The holy mullah’s/ matawas got a “cut” of the slave sales profits——the sales of drugs/guns is common—–an AK-47 goes for $25—-I could have bought easily BUT getting caught with it was many years in a Saudi prison—a Saudi prison is like nothing you can even imagine in your worst nightmare……Muzzies breed like rabbits and are a ‘disease’ on the western world….When will western civilization ever learn with their “inclusiveness” and “diversity” —“tolerance”–“openness” crap—-The muzzies COUNT on our severe, endless STUPIDITY——What stupid folks we are; to ALLOW this to continue…………….
Money talks with what’s running this country. It’s their “god”.
so right you are——there is a dept. of the Saudi gov’t that will supply the funding for new mosques anywhere in the world—-I , unfortunately live in the SFO Bay area——–there are 9 mosque’s within 30 miles of where I live…..(10 miles north of San Jose)…….the largest concentration of muzzies in the USA is Santa Clara County (silicon valley)—-Hopefully;i will be gone to north-east AZ…..soon….Between the ‘illegals’ and the muzzies and the commie gov’t here it is time to move on…….also include ‘illegal alien latino gangs” too……A true Soviet Socialist Republik in every way you can think of…..Welcome to Kalifornia !!!!!
edward martis, Sorry, but everything you said, has reach the eastern parts of the U.S. The muslims, thanks to obummer, are here by the millions. Between them and the 50 millions ILLEGALS, American citizens have NO chance to survive.
Muslims three point three million including home grown. Illegals are about 3.5% of the population and the range runs from 10 million to 12 million. Southern border catches 50% of the illegals crossing which have dropped to 400,000 per year from an all time high of 12 million in one year. 50% are either caught elsewhere or not caught at all.;
Google up USA Muslim population and USA illegal residents for multiple sources.
The current and latest Pew report puts the number at 11.1 million.
He said NE AZ, as in the Navajo res. Nothing else there.
Same here in S. Ca. as I live in Anaheim & when exiting the 91 fwy there is a large, large mosque to greet you, although I haven’t been around to hear their “call to prayer” (the sweetest sound in the world according to the head turd) obama I guess it is my loss, sarcasm intended. Sorry about that but I have a hard time with anyone that is required to pray 5 times per day
Why you have not HEARD the call to prayer goes like this>>> a massive mosque was built in Stockton and the first thing they did was to do the ‘ call to prayer’ thing at dawn on million watt speakers; so the neighbors were just about blasted out of their own beds—–the neighborhood took the mosque to court; and that was that—–the muzzies lawyer did the freedom of religion thing and the court said NO; and threw the muzzies out of court–….muzzies have no problem raising hell in surburban US neighborhoods…..we are supposed to CONFORM to them, of course…….in the 3 yrs I spent 20 miles from that vile city of ‘holy’ Mecca—-I had a mosque about 70 ft from my 6 flat apartment building (I lived in a standard muzzie neighborhood; not a ‘company compound’) and the first thing I did was to have the air conditioner/ heater on full blast summer and winter; to drown out ‘first prayer call’………you could find a neighborhood mosque every 150 feet………what the mullahs would do was to have a recording of first prayer call hooked to a clock-timer; so that they could get another 30 min. min. of sack time——consider that the muzzies had to wake up at that first bellowing of prayer call> get dressed in their long white thobes> take a morning piss> wash their feet, face and hands; which is required by islam and then flip-flop their way out of their house and down the street to the mosque———once they got to the mosque; they had to wait until the mosque filled up with people and settled down to ‘business’ in straight rows of folks; all set to do the prayer thing—this complete process took about 25 min on so—–when everybody was assembled and settled down THEN the mullah would com flip-flopping in and ‘lead’ prayers; which took about 10 min or so—–after it was over everybody drained out of the mosque and went home and back to sleep—–the whole thing took about 45 min. from out of bed and then back to bed——I was in SA twice; 81′ and 98′——A fair amount of times I was in the main market place (which was very large)at dusk and as soon as the PA system started to wail; I would find a place to kick- back and wait—–the religious police/ mullahs/ matawas would PA system on Toyota land cruisers yell at the populace; to heard them into the big mosque……or try…….as soon as the land cruiser(s) passed by; the populace would back step and hide all over the market area; up in alley’s etc——the average Saudi HATES the mullahs’s etc for they are EXTREMELY (to say the very least) OPPRESSIVE in all ways——-I had 2 ea RSAF CWO ‘ helicopter maint. students ///’gun-ships etc that skipped out of prayer times any time they could—–YOU could NOT get away with this too often; for the mullah would notice…….When they finally retired they went to ‘free’ Bahrain; which is VERY Westernized and women can dress any damn way they want/ drive cars etc…….I knew a few Brit families that retired there……..very easy going country with christian churches and hotel bars etc.——Bahrain is the R&R center of the mid-east——the UK ran Bahrain (as a ‘protectorate’ ) for 200+ years and left in 1966——All of that exposure /western thinking/ school system/ brit customs etc did the Bahraini populace an immeasurable amount of good………much like Jordan——-Bahrain is a VERY very small country (7x 40 miles) connected by causeway to Damman,KSA—8 miles off the KSA coast——one country is polar opposite to the other and BAH is home port for the USN 5th Fleet——the US military has a very close relationship with BAH…..to boot——-sorry for yapping so much…my apologies
What little I know about islam could be put a piece of paper (note book sized) But that is enough to know it isn’t for me. I have heard to call to prayer during a couple of movies that I kind of watched & Once again it just isn’t for me I barely qualify as Christian. Here is a question maybe you could answer for me what do the filth do with agnostics? I have read what they prefer to do with Christians, at least what the real radicals like to do to them, that is one of the reasons I call them all animals or beasts. I wonder why they didn’t burn the mosque down after the first call to prayer, that may be my preference
AA–T
AA—if you would like to see what islam and Saudi Arabia are—-look up my posts- OK ?-I have ‘detailed files’ as Ahnold said in T-2—–Anyways; it is a barbaric, mean spirited , religion—I had some RSAF friends that were regular folks and fine human beings.; but the majority of Saudis are a product of very tite/ close/ tribal inbreeding (mothers screwing sons/ fathers screwing daughters/ brothers screwing sisters etc for 6,000 years ) and now you know why the mid-east is so fuc–ed up——They; for the very most part are certifiable five star lunitics and I delt with these idiots every day for 3 years…..for the tax free money; which made me rich—–Agnostics do not exist for you are born into islam (meaning “SUBMISSION” to Allah-)—You are EXPECTED to act this islamic way; and if you don’t the “Religious Police” will pay you a visit; which never happens—–CONFORM or die—- and that’s that—–the matawas/ mullahs etc are like the SS of WW2 Germany—-No dissent allowed; EVER..(…I had 2 ea RSAF CWO’s ‘maint. students’ on Italian made helicopter gun-ships)—-If you; as a muslim convert to Christianity; you will issued a death warrant for ‘APOSTACY’ and your head becomes a bowling ball-in very short order—–This never happens either——On the positive side there are catholic churches in Bahrain (8 miles off the coast of Damman, SA)—–The Brits had Bahrain for 200+ years as a ‘protectorate’ and all that Brit influence rubbed off on the Bahraini people ……BAH is very westernized and a very neat place to live—A lot of Brits ‘retire’ there and is a polar opposite to SA—–women can dress and do what they want…drive etc—-very easy going small country—6x 40 miles in size—–and home port for the USN Fifth Fleet—–Hope of all this helped—-The less you know about Islam; the better off you are—-Just remember that they are ‘cock-roaches’—i.e. Germany/ France/ Austria/ Italy/ UK and will devour Europe like locusts and the USA (if allowed to do so)……which is the continuous goal for Islam; forever—-Islamic total rule of the world; which is the final goal…………..
wonder why all that praying not making them humane! Is it the tortured halal meat they eat and the disdain and cruelty to half their population,their women? God save them and the rest of the world, so we can all live peacefully!! Hope our leaders will make wise choices and not be afraid of politically correctness idiocy!!
You do realize that islam has one singular purpose and that is to rule the world under the green banner of holy Islam …..They will not stop EVER and Iran will use the bomb the day they get it. The Iranians believe that the sooner they can cause the end of the world; the better and when that happens Mohammed will come down from heaven and take all of the ‘faithful’ up to heaven with him. Sounds insane does it not ? Believe me; it is true…They breed like rabbits to supply the world with Islamic holy warriors…..Since ocrap is helping Iran as much as possible with all of those billions of dollars he has given back to them from the Shah days; the Iranians now have a faster track to a nuclear bomb; much sooner than expected—-The going rate for a nukie is $ 400 to 600 million—–So in reality; ocrap has paid for iran (in advance) to buy a nukie——-The Iranians look forward to death and being in paradise with Mo; which is their ultimate goal. I spent 3 yrs in Saudi Arabia and know these folks WELL…………………
None of it really matters in the end. There is only one King and ruler. These on earth are temporary . All will be judged by one true King. If one thing comes from all the fear and division, I believe it will be a renewed interest in Christ. It’s happened before throughout history. People need hope and Jesus is that hope
yeah; your right we will all wind up as common dust anyway………………..
I have a friend that has lived & retire from Managua Bahrain he is Austrain I met him one weekend a few years back & he kind of told me about what life is like there. He retired a couple of years ago & the co called him back out of retirement & made it worth his while. So they shipped him back to Bahrain he is some type of tele-communications engineer & works on their budgets, I haven’t heard from him in at least a year but will see him the next time he comes to S. Ca & we will get together before he leaves. They must be paying him well as he left Austria & his new wife but he is more socialist than I am but we have a few beers & a few laughs also he got to see the space shuttle the one time he was here
No disrespect; but it is Manama——I went over to visit one of my BAH friends for a month or two; and had a great time. My BAH friend is a retired CWO of the Bahraini Emiri Self Defense Air Force (20 yrs) …..He now owns 2 fair sized restaurents and his son Ali is a Captain in the Bahrain Police Force—–very likeable folks—–Ali spent a year in Lyon, France attached to INTERPOL…Hq (the main central facility)….He liked France and did not want to go home to Manama; but that’s the way it is……Currently; the BAH is having problems with the Shite population as Bahrain’s are 90% Sunni—–Iran has had claims on BAH for years; in that Bahrain is part of Iran…..of which the BAH Sunni’s said ‘fuck off’—–and invited the USN Fifth Fleet to build a fairly large facility there; which the USN did a bunch of years ago—–so if Iran tried to make a move on BAH the USN would ‘fix that’—–Sort of like BAH having a bunch of crazy pit-bulls for protection—-beneficial to both parties—-BAH is about 130 miles from the coast of Iran—-The Summers are beyond brutal —-130o days with 90 % humidity—-My buddy suffers in the Summer months—-I don’t how the BAH people survived before A/C—–It must have been a living hell—-I was there in March (lo to mid 80’s)—–Anyways; I hope my info. added to your knowledge to that part of the world….My friend is married to a Moro (Phillipino) from the southern P.I.—She is very modern and runs around in blue-jeans and a blouse with no hajab on her head—screw that; as she said—-And forget the Islam thing altogether—–for the whole family—-They were born muslim; but that’s it—–Muslim in name only—-
No problem I didn’t know how to pronounce it spell it or where it is on the map. My bud Josef told me they are still living in the 12th century so I really don’t want to know that much about it just not my kind of people. I have another friend that is Iranian & He told me I would like Iran, I told him I will never live in any country run by a religion. Another Bud was a major in the Iranian air force & after the fall of the shaw he spent 10 years in one of their prisons because he was loyal to the shaw he lives here in sunny S. Ca. now & goes to Europe sometimes to see his brother & sister as when they tossed him out I guess the entire family was put on notice to leave or else, they chose life instead of the what else, like any same person would. I just want to prepare myself for what is coming to America that is why I am curious about the people & their so called religion I just don’t associate with many of them here these days especially the ones that don’t dress western I figure they are just to much like animals & when & where I grew up there were a few of them very few & never met any of them or there kids. so live a long & full life hope to talk to you some time in the future
A##hole
Notice you are a man of few angry words.
hi again—-BAH is very modern and the folks there do pretty good for themselves—-They HAD oil but it is long gone. BAH is the Switzerland of the mid-east in regards to banking and that is what keeps BAH solvent. My BAH friend was born into islam; but that is all—–Your Iranian friends were lucky to get out alive and in one piece.. I knew a bunch of Iranians too; from working for Bell helicopters in the Shah era.—-If the Shah had just done his Westernazation slower things would have worked out; but NO; he had to force it down the throats of the average Iranian. Iran was a neat place back then; with women dressing pretty much the way they wanted; a very civilized place including alcohol etc.—-So much for that……Hilly has future plans of bringing in 500,000 Syrians and ocrap is bringing in 10,000 a month presently—-I am sure you are aware what the muzzies are doing to London—France and Germany—–in that they are totally wrecking those places; which is their plan .and intent….Islam is the religion of war and domination of the whole damn world and have been at it from 633 A.D. and then along comes money and oil; which put islam on the fast track—-Their are LOT’s of places in the mid-east living in the 12th century but BAH is not one; by a longshot—-There is a “rule of thumb” in SA; in that the farther you go inland; the father you go back in time and the centuries—–I have seen this for my self in that I have been to the confluence of the Saudi/ Jordanian and Iraqi borders and the Saudi/ Yemeni/Omani border areas—–An exception are the Farasan Islands; a short ferry ride just off the Red Sea– Saudi coast within eyesite of Yemen—-The females dress like women in an 1880’s western movie—Up to the neck’ long sleeves and down to the ankle and NO covering of the face and head area i.e. “GUNSMOKE” with James Arness (1960)—the other rule of thumb is that the farther you are away from the Saudi capitol of Riyadh the less influence the mullahs have—–The average Saudi in the street HATES the mullah types and more than a few of them have disappeared; forever……..If hilly/ Obama continue to flood the USA with muzzies; we are totally fu–ed ; and all I can say is buy yourself more guns and ammo or move to Canada—I have an Vienna, Austria /Berlin friend(s) that tell me their countries are being torn apart by the muzzies—-(100,000 rapes/ sexual assaults/-home invasions etc) Germany; especially is going nuts over Merkle’s luv for the mussies…Expect a big change soon …..Austria has sealed its borders and slowly but surely forcing the muzzies out and chartering airliners to fly them back to wherever——The thing is why would any western government want millions of these sewer rats to invade their home countries ? Sounds like something hilli/ocrap would do. Right ? And for what purpose ? Votes ? And the internal destruction of the USA…….Kiss everything you hold dear goodbye if this does not stop…..If you need to know anything more; let me know……….If the US elects hilli; we are totally fuc–ed…….and I would not be surprise if violence followed…………
Thank you for all the info, I think I am moving to mid America & know for sure I don’t want these animals here no way no how. We did have a few Syrians around where I grew up in W. Pa in the Allegheny valley near Pittsburgh but had lots more Slovakian, Polish & lots of Italians along with other Europeans. I can’t remember being around any kids from the middle East area. I did remember about the 5th fleet & their big port in Bahrain & that is about it I have some relatives in Mo. that want me to come live there so maybe that is where I am headed in the near future since my time is growing shorter here on this planet
AA–I would not live in BAH… No matter what; it is still a muslim country. BAH is a very easy going place and is about 3 miles wide and 39 miles long —The bottom half of BAH is a military zone and you cannot go there; so in effect you have a country that is 20 miles long and 3 miles wide with a max. altitude of 200 ft.—-Check to see what the Shia pop. is doing currently—I was there in March of 2002 and they did have some problems with them—–It MAY(?) be worse/ better by now—-It got so bad some short years ago; that the Bahraini Emir requested Saudi Army troops to drive over from Dammam and quell the Shia rioters (which have strong aliegence to Iran); also, it is very expensive there and the 130o temps / 95 % or so humidity is insufferable…..Could your old bones take that kind or climate ? When I applied for the BAH Visa; I had to have a reason to go there in the first place; in which I put down by buddies address…..which was acceptable to the Bahraini Embassy in D.C.—-You will have to check on that also——BAH is a 5 hour flight from London also—I did not realize that Gulf Air (airline of BAH) flew North into Iranian airspace and then took a left into Turkish airspace; just south of the Russian border and then went in a north westerly direction or so into Eastern Europe…..It was a funny feeling flying over Tehran at night at 20,000 ft (semi-low altitude)—-Air traffic control in Iran is very different than ours—–US airlines usually fly at 32,000 ft. or so here—-The mid-east is entirely different in this regard……For a Bahraini Visa; just drop into any international travel place and they will direct you to the proper people that deal with Visa’s …..
you are quite welcome—–If I may; I highly recommend the Show Low, AZ area (6,500 ft/ hi- timber country/85o summers / 50o winters with some snow; not much. maybe a foot or 2 / pure clean air/ 14,000 pop./ no gangs and with just a few black working class folks—-It is the best kept secret in AZ—(200 miles N E of PHX—–a total ‘free state’ —–no CCW laws at all—-Gov. Jan Brewer; a few years back; told Ocrap to (basically) ‘go fuck yourself’ in his immigration policies on AZ——which are destroying AZ………..
The shah looks more than acceptable when looking at Iran today.
The only difference between the current ruler and the Shah including their equally noxious nauseos secret police is….one ruled by divine right of US Government and the other is ruling by right of secular lef tiwng progressives Now aint that just Dee VINE!
Trump trash
The volume was a violation of some Constitutional Provisions which are based on life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness clause of the Declaration. This example is a great example of the foresight exhibited by the founders.
The original requirement was 100. So Moses goes up the mountain and asks to have the number reduced and after some trading back and forth it was reduced to fifty and then five.. Many were still carping and complaining in the Islamic World and of course the Christian and Jewish world just ignored that thinking one in seven days worked better. An employer explained how to do God’s bidding the EZ way. Everytime you finish a job ask God, “Does this meet with your approval. you will easily pray more than is required – prefacing that with ordinary people pray five times a day. We are special people. He was speaking to airplane mechanics.”
Source was a Neville Shute novel “Round The Bend,” I took some liberties as I don’t have a copy anymore.
Where did you get that notion? There’s never been a commandment to pray 100 times a day, in the manner of the Muslims; although we are to always be in an attitude of prayer (praying ceaselessly), which Paul reiterated in the NT. Moses had nothing to do with the number of prayer times, especially NOT in Islam, since Moses was dead thousands of years before Muhammad and his cult cropped up!
You must have a hard time reading beyond line number one. The source is clearly stated as a fiction novel by Nevil Shute called “Around The Bend.” But then one could expect no less from a secular progressive. Strike One and Strike Two. Voting for left wing fascist socialism is strike three. Just think you could have been on strike two had you bothered to ‘read.’
Anyone who would vote for or support in any way Comrade Clinton one whose entire life has been evil and whose political philosophy is secular progressivism gets no leeway from me. Strike Four. You have the right to support Marx, Soros, Clinton and the rest of them.
As a practicing supporter of the Constitutional Republic system of government I fully support freedom of religion even when it’s secular Comrade Clinton is far beyond the pale
I noticed Clintonites allow repentance Clinton who has never shown the slightlest effort to take that step but deny it to everyone else.
As for me I take the objectivist route. Get behind me. Plonk.
For those who can’t read it’s a fiction book. The many who were stilll carping…etc. were air plane mechanics Also not present back in the dark ages.
Learn to spell
and don’t forget money IS free speech SCOTUS said so. Tell me Mr. and Mrs. Average American how much did they pay you. If SCOTUS made it a legal buy and sell commodity inlcuding buying votes mines for sale Ten cents I vote for Trump One million dollars I vote for None of the above Ten milllion I vote for Hillary. That’s the price. Paid in advance take it or leave it.
edward martis, Thanks to obummer, the muslim occupying the American White House, who has made our country, a third-world-country.
The turd didn’t quite get us back that far, but he did get our children & grand children in debt so far they will be working to pay it down most of their lives. Maybe it would have been better if he got us that far back that way we could have declared BK & have the rest of the world eat it, why not the third world countries have been doing this for centuries
Ah Angry let me explain the system. They have no intention of paying off that debt. But every intention of you and I etc. paying for their free lunch. We’re already paying for it.
First drum up some phony crisis or maybe two. The last time they used the phony housing market scam AND the ethanol/price of food scam.
Bear in mind ethanol alone gave the world the whole world a 30% increase give or take in the price of food.
The other part was for control of money for Socialist Corporatist/Statists under the directioni of Socialist Statist/Corporatists.
Goes like this. Heavy inflation powered by massive borrowing to no real need nor purpose. Inflation automatically breeds devaluation of the value of the money. Buying power. So what good is your life long retirement income when it’s suddenly one third less in value while food goes up driving a lot of other changes in price..
Inflation = Devaluation followed by
Debt Repudiation.
The first two were government driven from start to finish except it ain’t over yet.
The next step was something called Cost of Living Adjustement.
Did you see any 20-50% cost of living adjustments? I didn’t. Mine got zero two years running recently and next year is scheduled for point zero two percent or .02 or two cents on the dollar. Why? they didn’t count all of what made the cost of living goes up.
So …1999 gas was .95 or ninety five cents a gallon. Some years later it was in the three to five dollar range. Now it’s in the $2 range. The value of your money dropped at least 30% which means that $2 gas everyone thinks is so dandy now costs you not $2.00 but nearer $3.00 in terms of it’s buying power value. That’s a fairly close example.
The Debt they repudiated or refused to pay was your retirement savings or your current retirement income. Not just the unfunded military retirement but social security and any form of retirement.
They just said we ain’t going to pay the debt that we caused and the value of the money you lost.
That’s how they pay off the debt by making it worth less until it’s worthless.
Round two coming up….The debt incurred since 2008 due and payable – by the elderly and the retirees.
It’s called the cycle of economic repression.
and Poo was right about one thing all though it wasn’t a Recession but more like a bankruptcy. It affected the entire world.
But it wasn’t Americans it was The USA’s only true home grown criminal class the US Congress and a coalition of like minded Presidents.
You all got taken to the cleanersk, rolled and hosed and most don’t even realize it.
So one says I’l cut your taxes! While another says we need to raise the fuel tax and add a VAT tax and enhance all sorts of things. As for business tax? How do reduce or raise zero percent. ALL of that is passed on to the consumer. Every last cent. All business does is collect it on behalf of the US Government.
Just thought it might give you something to think about in the next few weeks. .
And all his friends want to take over our country, along with the world. They will not be satisfied until everyone bows to sharea law. Time for another Crusade. No matter how long it will takes. David Kupelian has a couple of books that are important. He notes that according to Muslim s we are born with three holes in our hearts, the first one is closed at birth, our life add we live closes the second one, and supposedly when we die, allah,(satan) closes the third as we go to paradise and have lots of sex and virgins. No wonder our kids want to become Muslim. God help us all.
“islam in a man…is like rabies in a dog!”…:Winston Churchill….
As long as too many people hold to the propaganda that Muslims are peaceful and loving and worship the same God as Christians and Catholics and Jews, we will continue to deal with this terrorism from them on even wider scale. Their god teach’s them to rule the world by whatever means they can. Their god will not stop just because of love or peace or understanding . They can’t. It would be contrary to their religion and they are their religion. That is why after 9/11 the Muslims began to say that we were at war with Islam while our Government leaders told them and us that we aren’t. We are as long as they are and they will not stop. They can’t. It would go against their own nature and their religion which is themselves.They literally are what they believe and have been taught for centuries to believe. They will not stop.
We have forgotten but in 1952, a law was passed that does not allow Muslims into our country. There also is an amendment to the Constitution which bars any people of a religion that goes against our beliefs and laws and wants to change our country.
Cimmie do me a favor and shoot me the reference for that if you would please I’m fighting a poor wifi system coupled with an overload of stuff to research. Thanks.!
Michael, I have the info, cam email it to you or put it on Facebook. Let me know. It is titled ” 1952 Immigration and nationality act a.k.a. the McCarran -Walter act)An act to revise the laws relating to immigration, naturaization, and nationality and for other purposes .It’s H.R. 13342; pub.L 414; 182 Stat.66
82nd Congress; June 27, 1952.
I put it on Facebook, under my came.
Thanks for the leads it didn’t take long to track down the whole story.
Only one Immigration Act I’ve fouond from the 1700’s was rescinded in
it’s Entirety.
The 1952 Act may have done that for the 1926
act but I found no evidence, The 1952 Act clearly states admission is
denied to any one belonging to an ‘organization’ that advocated violent
overthrow of the US Government. The 1965 Act made no changes to that
provision. The 1985 Act made no changes to that provision. The 2012
Act made no changes to that provision. Several sources openly state the
1952 Act is still the basic law of the land for immigration.
Keep
in mind and if you didn’t know look it up the early 1950’s was a time
of great turmoil due to one Senator McCarthy of Wisconsin (see Army
McCarthy hearings among others which was broadcast nationwide on the new
black and white television. I watched it myself as a young boy. There
were many things about those times we should not be proud of – but the
Immigration act was not one of them.
As of now and
with out clear proof to the opposite the statement against admitting
those belonging to organizations advocating violent overthrow of the US
Government is still in effect.
The questiion changes to these.
Has
any clear determination of that law as it affects Muslims
specifically, specifically by national origin, or other specifics been
made. And if that determination has not been made with sufficient
strength then why is it being ignored or provided a waiver?
A
Presidential executive order is insufficient as it violates powers not
granted. And in the absence of powers not granted the clear rule is the
law may not be ignored.
A Presidential decision
to ignore the law stating ‘that hasn’t been visited yet by the Supreme
Court.’ is insufficient and is a clear violation. of powers not granted.
Public opinion does not hold sway in either direction.
The law clearly states ‘any organization that advocates violent overthrow of.’ or words to that effect.
Islam
is not only a religion as we interpret it but us also a direct
governing system used in a number of country’s, most recently Turkey and
the ISIS countries as well as countries like Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq
and Iran or is used as such by the current government.
The
difficulty lies in the oath of allegiance to the USA when asking for
citizenship or even admission. Are they lying openly, lying as a matter
conscience, lying as a matter following a higher (to them) authority
or are they what should I call it sort of born again Muslims who truly
accept our Constitution as their secular supreme authority. Or Not.
However
the law makes no allowances for ‘maybes’ All it takes is hook up the
lie detector machines and if still not completely sure deny entry and
deny citizenship. And if later having been found to have lied by word or
deed revocation under the false statement provisions – meaning they
were never real citizens to begin with.,
What a can of
worms but necessary even though there are no provisions
constitutionally for revocation of citizenship that only applies if they
were truthful to begin with.
Not tested by a visit
to the courts has nothing to do with it as far as Presidential
pronouncements are concerned. If not clearly granted it is denied.
Like the illegal appointments made during the Christmas break some years
ago.
it appears on the face of it that intentional
violation of the powers granted provision s should have resulted in at
least an impeachment investigation. Unless the Congress itself is
covering their own questionable activities.
All the
above and the counter claims none of which are based on the law ‘as it
is’ are available by researching each of the Immigration Acts by date
1926, 1952, 1965, 1985, 2012.
My only caveat is IF I
missed something and it was there to fine blame Google. ha ha ha not
much of a defense so in other words if find clear, factual, evidence to
the contrary or that materially change my findings to date please post
the cites, sites, and authorities.
Thanks to Cimmie for the start point .
We need to get them out of our country. I remember the McCarthy hearings although I didn’t understand much. My mother was glued to the TV. It’s all fuzzy now but it was about unamerican activities. TRUMP needs to know this. If he’s going to Vet them the lie detector test would be perfect. Not PC but that’s about over. I have great grandchildren to worry about and I sure as Hell don’t want sharea law. Please keep me informed. My email is cimmiedepriest@aol. Thanks
It was the times after World War II and the Cold War had started in earnest. By then the US had become involved in Greece in a small way, the establishment of Israel, and Korea as well as sending advisors and evaluators into other parts of the world. One faction in Congress had come out strongly opposed to Communism but went overboard t say the least. Twenty years later we were still being asked if we had ever belonged to thhe Abraham Lincoln Brigade during the Spanish Civil War. A time when I wasn’t born yet. Never mind they asked anyway. Nuclear weapons had entered the picture.
Suddenly the horror of entire cities being fire bombed became all too real. The House UnAmerican Activities Committee was in full pursuit regardless of facts of a Communist under every bed and in every closet. Senator McCarthy had list after list of Communist agents penetrating the FBI and much else of Government. British Spies were uncovered almost as fast as were USA spies and then the secret of Nuclear devices was out and went straight to Moscow. A few years later no one wanted admit to supporting McCarthyism.
Many innocent people were persecuted without foundation. No one wanted facts just blood and hangings. The civil rights laws of the country such as they were at the time were trampled. And now the Republican Party or at least the far left faction has joined them. They weren’t wrong in the early fifties. They were just targeting the wrong people.
Now that I’m old and a grandmother, I worry so about the future. I realize how much I missed, not realizing how crooked the world has been. I didn’t wake up til Obama became president. If my husband had been here he would have known. He passed before Obama but a lot of his indicted had rubbed off on me. I knew Obama was bad for our country but had no one to talk to. Now Hillary again, she will finish the job Obama started. I feel Trump is our only hope as long as O doesn’t pull something sneaky. I just keep praying. And they better get Charlotte under control, it’s been too long and spreading. O may call marshal law and cancel the elections. That would be it for us.
The one thing you do not have to worry about is martial law especially above the state level meaning National Guard or a State Militia if your State has one. That would put the military squarely in charge and there is the pesky little worry Obama has about his own role in things.
You see the military has an oath of office and in it they swear complete allegiance to one thing and one thing only. The thing is not a person nor an office holder nor any persons such as national population nor the nation itself in terms of real estate. It is the Constitution.
That alone and nothing else. Under Martial law they are solely in charge except for one individual and that has a built in caveat or exception. As we were taught in the Military back in the old days – it took more than one to have bragging rights – the second half of the oath was to obey the orders of the President and the Officers (meaning uniformed not civilian) appointed over. The exception was if the President or Command-In-Chief has become an ‘enemy domestic.’
the first part goes like this. To support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic;
Who decides? The Military under martial law decides and makes those determinations then under oath or ‘color of office’ proceeds to drag the country back under the Constitution, kicking and screaming all they want, taking such steps as the military deems necessary. At some point and it’s their decision the country is turned over to civilian control again.
As was explained to us we were the last and final resort and it was our duty and a requirement to carry out that action. Tanks in the streets? Not at all. Wouldn’t take more than 24 hours over some weekend. Nothing interrupted business as usual. Except for whom ever was a key player for the other side.
For that reason Obama and especially his annabe replacement would not dare to take that step on a national level.
It is the reason Obama’s Secretary of Home land Security Janet Napolitano declared us the governments greatest danger both active duty, former, and retired a force reservoir of some 21 million many currently in law enforcement roles or embedded in DOHS.
It is the reason Obama publicy announced he wanted to build up DOHS into a force equal in power and size to the military. and made that easier by cutting it in half. That means make DOHS a protective echelon for his government. To make it easy for you that’s a translation from german language for Schutz Staffel with it’s component Waffen SS.
It is that attitude and eight years of a majority of the military being treated despicably and now, and quite openly. which should send some signal, despise their Command-In-Chief and his follow on wanna be.
A clear requirement of every autocrat is they take care of their security forces first. DOHS look pretty comfortable but the strength is the military. Except for a few careerists –
He wants DOHS to become the Directorate of Internal State Security with a military component and all decked out in black uniforms with a couple of ligtning bolts ont he collar points. After All Barak does mean lightning and also means destroyer.
The final point we were taught, as long as their was a Constitution we could not and would not act. But also we were taught the officers appointed over us having taken the same oath would make that decision and not necessarily the highest ranking commissioned officers.
What will it take? Well…that’s up to the people in uniform today. Veterans are the reserve.
What I said about Obama goes double for Comrade Clinton. She can’t declare martial law without being the first one handcuffed IMHO. Until then it’s up to the people of the country. If they vote for Socialist Autocracy under Comrade Clinton it does not excuse their Oath to The Constitution.
You have reminded me of so much I have forgotten. In 61 I was in WAC basic training, we had all those classes and I have grown hazy over the years. My husband could have reminded me because he remembered everything. My mind is like a sieve. And now at this late date I realize more and can’t believe I have been asleep for so long. These last 8 years and now have been driving me crazy. But thank you for relieving my fears for marshal law. Just have to pray for our next president not be female.
I remember those too, my parents watched everything televised, including the actual hearings. I do remember it was about rooting communists out of our country. Of course they took place early in the Cold War.
I’m not sure a polygraph would work on Muslims who believe it is perfectly okay to lie to infidels. A polygraph relies on bodily responses to feelings of guilt; if you were raised to believe lying to infidels is not a bad thing, i.e. not something “wrong”, over which you need feel guilty, you very likely would not register the same physiologic responses as someone raised where lying regardless to whom or over what is viewed s wrong. As I understand it, we should not be admitting any who come from places where the dominant belief entails the overthrow of our gov’t and Constitution, and until we can establish a nearly foolproof (even here polygraph aren’t 100%) method of determining that incoming persons are not a threat and will train succeeding generations to not be a threat as well (nearly all the “jihadist” attackers here post 9/11 have been children raised here by immigrant parents), we need to stop admitting anyone from that entire region,or from nations overrun by immigrants from there, such as most of western Europe now is as well.
I totally agree with you and the start has to be with Trump. Hillary will just bring more in. I also heard the powers that be are hastening making new immigrants citizens so they can vote( democrat) of course. I’m about to throw up my hands. It’s over if Hitlary gets in.
Why would you support a man who has been a liberal all his adult life and supported liberal pols and agendas? There IS a Constitutional conservative still in the running. And liberalism isn’t the worst of Trump’s faults; if he does America as he’s done business partners and stockholders, which in fact, I fully expect he will do, it’ll be worse than anything Hildebeest can do! Trump, put simply, is NOT what he’s presenting himself to be.
I wasn’t aware of any Constitutional conservatives running at all. Surely you aren’t speaking of those two Clinton supporting anti second amendment Libertarians who can’t even support their own party’s platform? Eight percent and bombing steady. You sure Clinton Foundation isn’t paying them?
This gentleman is Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party, not Gary Johnson and the Libertarians! Good grief; all we have showing is the 4 LIBS in different “flavors”, including Trump!
runn…The only solution is a couple of nukes……It may come to that….Who knows ? Some GBU-8A’s (22,600 pounders ) would take a lot wind out of their sails—–WIKIPEDIA will give you the specs——The bomb is bad enough; but the ‘ blast wave’ (terminal concussions) will turn your head into a pancake…..
Thanks Ed Martis, For sharing your personal experiance and advice. I only hope more people will read what you have written here.
Heidi—-for what it is worth—look up my other comments on islam and my adventures in Saudi Arabia—-you may find it an EYE-OPENER—-lastly; Saudi females (God help them) are for the semi- most part treated like ‘livestock’ and treated as such——-I have seen Saudi women>slapped/punched in the face..> knocked to the ground. >stomped > kicked ..In that part of the world you will never see ‘mom’ on a city street scenario-watching the family—–the oldest child is supposed to watch his/her siblings on a public street; play etc.—-the OLDEST child doing the ‘baby-sitting is 9 yrs old——I saw a 6 yr. old boy that was going to bash the head of 2 yr old—-with half of a sidewalk concrete brick—–at the last second a 10 yr. girl slapped the raised half-brick out of his fore arm area (she came out of a blind alley)——-seeing this unfold; I was 20 ft. away in my car and KNEW this would end in a death and their was nothing I could do—–I was 4 seconds away—–If that little girl was looking in another direction; that 2 yr old would be pushing up dasies——–I saw LOTS of car smash up’s with LOTS of bodies and arms/ legs/ heads all over the place ———-blood/guts/ gore ad nausum———-all of those folks think that they are Mario Andredi and 90 to 100++ mph is VERY common; with the expected results——I referred to driving on those new 8 lane highways as ‘Highway Combat’ which it was——driver self disapline I does NOT exists—–It was a total ‘free for all’ drivingwise——and I had thrown many a non-alcohol beer bottle at my fellow drivers; hitting them (for the most part) on their windshields—–fun/ fun/ fun——for a western woman; it can be hairy——-I saw this Texas woman punch the lites out of a Saudi man; totally cold-cocked him——this happened about once a month or so——the Saudi men think all western women are whores; and express their feelings as such; UNTIL they get the crap kicked out of them—–sorry; I blabbed so much—–just thought you would find the above yapping informative———And Hilly/ oshit wants to bring 500,000 of these animals here to the USA-?? Buy yourself some pistol/ rifles/ shotguns and hunker down……..
I totally agree, the Navy and Marines were started to protect against the barbary pirates, who attacked our ships once we were no longer protected by England. All the original slaves were sold by Arab, Muslims, and brought here to be sold again. They would sell their own family for the almighty buck. We should never have let them. Now we have to get rid of them. ALL
I could never understand American born blacks adopting muzzie names; for a religion that sold them into slavery in the first place—–sort of like you naming your son Adolph Hitler——–the sooner the muzzies; legal or not are sent back home; the better the off we will be; include the latino ‘illegals’ too …….I am lucky enough in that I have duel passports (Canada-USA) and can get off the RMS Titanic; before it sinks from liberalism/socialism/communism——lastly; if you thought of visiting San Francisco—DO NOT !!!! You will NOT like it…….human feces everywhere / 25,000+ insane homeless DEMANDING your money; HIV/AIDS,, never ending car break-in’s,, purse-snatching’s and on and on——forever——I ALWAYS carry 2 ‘police size’ cans of ‘pepper spray’ and have used it on crazy, drug-addled homeless trash about 5 times so far……by the way P/S is VERY effective and will drop a water buffalo to its knees, instantly…Again; do not come here; unless you have to………….
You may want to change one of those, because both Canada and the US are going down FAST, by the head! BTW pepper spray will not work on some drugged individuals; they don’t even notice it! I’ve seen it happen more than once!
Very informative and intelligent comment, rightsmite!
yeah,..when pressed…they have a hard time explaining this one…or acknowledging the silliness of it all!….
Know this for a fact, allah is a false god (Always use the small “g” and certainly the small “a” ) .
Muslims don’t like other Muslims either.
It would be helpful if when revealing such information you were able to quote the source other wise it’s of not much use to the rest of us. All the common sources refer to Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Bahai in order of founding as ‘people of the book.’ Referring of course to the Old Testament. I know where to find the surah’s that admonish Islamics to seek converts and the means and lengths they are allowed to go and many of their other barbaric acts and lying to non islamics if needed which means Customs and Immigration should at least be using lie detector equipment to determine truthfulness when taking the oath of allegiance to the US Constitution but that mountain reference is a new one.
In the police academy we were taught certain groups have an almost cultural ability to pass old style lie detector tests I’m wondering if the same applies in this instance as Muslims were not the group mentioned.
In any case it is the applicants duty to prove themselves worthy not the other way around. They have no USA type civil rights until citizenship is granted as point one.
And seriously, no joking with half the population that plans to vote choosing to to vote against the Constitution and a Constitutional Republic and support Comrade Clinton and Socialist Fascism one may well wonder what’s the big deal? Worse when even more are willing to paint the opponent with the tarred brush of the left just by dropping the letters ‘Inter-‘
There are few and small differences between International Socialism and National Socialism even less than the differences between socialist corporatist and socialist statist and one major similarity. All of them are fascist in nature.
To sum it up Internationalists believe no one owns anything while the national version believes in heavily controlled and taxed ownership with all the responsibilities and none of the profit. Marxist Economics of course especially the Keynesian style doesn’t work while Fascist AKA State Economics is described as Marxist with a thin veneer of Capitalism under complete control of the State. There in lies the differences. Both Left Both Fascist Both describe Comrade Hillary’s version.
He was the moon god from whose worship in Ur, Yhwh called Abraham to the worship of Yhwh and founding of the Judaic religion. But the critter who met Muhammad in the cave and claimed to be Gabriel directing him to worship Allah almost certainly was Satan.
Correct! Allah is Satan’s other name!
INDEED IT IS………….allah/satan ALL THE SAME SCUM….
Have you ewer sen those large Scars in the back of Nobama’s head, And we newer heard about any hospital stay.?
I think he was a lab monkey for a while, but his body kept rejecting a brain!
Wonder what they stuffed in his scull, without a telepromter he is completly lost.
How about a 50 Cal. 300gr implant. Problem solved.
It should be done with the ammo dipped in Pig BLOOD prior to usage, so he don’t get his 72 and will not be honored for all he has done to this CHRISTIAN NATION.
I’am not sure if they got male virgins in Muslim heaven.
Another John Wilkes Booth?
Bingo!!!
So says Karl Rove!
So says Trump!
ABSOLUTELY./././././././././././././././the homo/mu-slimey basturd……
Karl Rove said so!!
So did Trump!!
AMEN
FROM A KOREAN WAR VET 51/53
HAVE WE BEEN SET UP FOR A MUSLIM INVASION, BY HILLIARY, OBAMA, SOROS, AND THE BIASED NEWS MEDIA? IF NOT. READ ALL THE WHYS BELOW.
WHY DID HILLIARY, OBAMA, & KERRY DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO HELP THE RADICAL MUSLIMS.
WHY DID THIS ADMINSTRATION TRY AND BUY ALL AMMO?
WHY TRADE 5 TERRIOST FROM CUBA FOR ONE TRAITOR?
WHY TRY AND TAKE OUR GUNS? HITLER DID, & HISTORY TELLS US WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
WHY ALLOW A MINIMUM OF 35 MUSLIM CAMPS HERE IN THE STATES?
WHY ARE THERE 5 MUSLIM CAMPS IN N. VA. CLOSE TO DC? ARE THEY TO TAKE WASHINGTON?
WHY BUILD A FEMA CAMP IN EVERY STATE, SOME MORE THAN ONE, WITH ARMED GUARDS? ARE THEY TO HOLD MUSLIMS?
WHY ARE THEY BRINGING THOUSANDS OF YOUNG MUSLIMS HERE?
WHY IS THE TAX PAYER HAVING TO FEED, CLOTH & HOUSE THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF MUSLIMS BEING BROUGHT HERE?
WHY GIVE THE THOUSANDS OF MUSLIMS BROUGHT IN FREE HEALTH CARE, SPENDING THOUSANDS FOR HOSPITAL CARE?
WHY ARE THE ILLEGALS BEING TREATED BETTER THAN OUR VETERANS.
WHY STOP THE TANK AND PLANE SHIPPMENT TO EGYPT, WHEN THEIR ARMY KICK THE RADICALS OUT?
WHY DID OUR GOVERNMENT SEND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HELP THE RADICALS IN IRAN, A COUNTRY OUT TO DESTROY US?
WHY ARE WE SENDING BILLIONS TO ARAB COUNTRIES, AND LETING OUR COUNTRY GO TO POT?
WHY DONT THEY ENFORCE THE LAW BARRING ALL MUSLIMS FROM THIS COUNTRY?
WHY IS THE MUSLIM MAJOR IN TEXAS LIVING THAT KILLED 14 SOLDIERS AND WOUNDED A LOT MORE?
WHY ARE THEY RELEASING ALL MUSLIMS IN CUBA TO GO BACK INTO ACTION TO KILL OUR SOLDIERS?
WHY DONT WE HANG ALL MUSLIMS CAUGHT AND BURY THEM WITH PIG PARTS, LIKE GENERAL PERSHING DID IN THE PHILLIPENS?
WHY WAS OBAMA ALLOWED TO SWEAR IN CARLOYN WALKER AS JUDGE IN BROOKLIN USING THE QURAN?
I SAY, ARM ALL OUR TROUPS TO PREVENT A MUSLIM TAKEOVER. THINK IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. I CAN TAKE 100 AND TAKE ANY BASE IN 1 HOUR.
BETTER COAT ALL YOU AMMO WITH PIGS BLOOD OR GREASE, THINGS DO NOT LOOK GOOD.
JUST PRAY THAT DONALD TRUMP IS ELECTED AND IS ABLE TO TAKE OVER AS OUR PRESIDENT.
GOOGLE THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLE 2015 AND YOU JUST MIGHT KNOW WHY.
BELOW IS A GOOD REASON WHY I BELIEVE THAT A TAKEOVER TRY IS POSSIBLE. HOW CAN THE BIASED NEWS SAY OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM.
President Obama: This is why you didn’t go to France to show solidarity against the Muslim terrorists:
* It was you . . . who spoke these words at an Islamic dinner -“I am one of you.”
* It was you . . . who on ABC News referenced -“My Muslim faith.”
* It was you who . . . gave $100 million in U.S. taxpayer funds to re-build foreign mosques.
* It was you who . . . wrote that in the event of a conflict- “I will stand with the Muslims.”
* It was you who . . . assured the Egyptian Foreign Minister that – “I am a Muslim.”
* It was you who . . . bowed in submission before the Saudi King.
* It was you who . . . sat for 20 years in a Liberation Theology Church condemning Christianity and professing Marxism.
* It was you who . . . exempted Muslims from penalties under Obamacare that the rest of us have to pay.
* It was you who . . . purposefully omitted – “endowed by our Creator ” – from your recitation of The Declaration Of Independence.
* It was you who . . . mocked the Bible and Jesus Christ’s Sermon on the Mount while repeatedly referring to the ‘HOLY’ Qur’an.
* It was you who . . . raveled the Islamic world denigrating the United States of America.
* It was you who . . . instantly threw the support of your administration behind the building of the Ground Zero Victory mosque overlooking the hallowed crater of the World Trade Center.
* It was you who . . . refused to attend the National Prayer Breakfast, but hastened to host an Islamic prayer breakfast at the White House.
* It was you who . . . ordered Georgetown Univ. and Notre Dame to shroud all vestiges of Jesus Christ BEFORE you would agree to go there to speak, but in contrast, you have NEVER requested the mosques you have visited to adjust their decor.
* It was you who . . . appointed anti-Christian fanatics to your Czar Corps.
* It was you who . . . appointed rabid Islamists to Homeland Security.
* It was you who . . . said that NASA’s “foremost mission” was an outreach to Muslim communities.
* It was you who . . . as an Illinois Senator was the ONLY individual who would speak in favor of infanticide.
* It was you who . . . was the first President not to give a Christmas Greeting from the White House, and went so far as to hang photos of Chairman Mao on the WH tree.
* It was you who . . . curtailed the military tribunals of all Islamic terrorists.
* It was you who . . . refused to condemn the Ft. Hood killer as an Islamic terrorist.
* It is you who . . . has refused to speak-out concerning the horrific executions of women throughout the Muslim culture, but yet, have submitted Arizona to the UN for investigation of hypothetical human-rights abuses.
* It was you . . . who when queried in India refused to acknowledge the true extent of radical global Jihadists, and instead profusely praised Islam in a country that is 82% Hindu and the victim of numerous Islamic terrorists assaults.
* It was you who . . . funneled $900 Million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Hamas.
* It was you who . . . ordered the USPS to honor the MUSLIM holiday with a new commemorative stamp.
* It was you who . . . directed our UK Embassy to conduct outreach to help “empower” the British Muslim community.
* It was you who . . . funded mandatory Arabic language and culture studies in Grammar schools across our country.
* It is you who . . . follows the Muslim custom of not wearing any form of jewelry during Ramadan.
* It is you who . . . departs for Hawaii over the Christmas season so as to avoid past criticism for NOT participating in seasonal WH religious events.
* It was you who . . . was uncharacteristically quick to join the chorus of the Muslim Brotherhood to depose Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak, formerly America’s strongest ally in North Africa; but, remain muted in your non-response to the Brotherhood led slaughter of Egyptian Christians.
* It was you who . . . appointed your chief adviser, Valerie Jarrett, an Iranian, who is a member of the Muslim Sisterhood, an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.
* It was you who . . . said this country is not a Christian nation.
* It was you who . . . said the Muslim call to worship is the most beautiful sound on earth.
* IT WAS YOU WHO GAVE 150 BILLION PLUS TO IRAN.
* IT WAS YOU WHO RANSOMED 4 PEOPLE FOR 400 MILLION/
* ARE YOU, KERRY, HILLIARY & THE BIASED NEWS MEDIATO TRYING TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY?
VOTE DONALD TRUMP.
Thanhkyou Big Stan, Like I feel, a muslim is a muslim is muslim., if they can prove me wrong I am listening. Its hard to tell the good from the bad. They do not seem to condemn anyone but us. All 9/11 victims my thoughts are with you.
Right on big Stan!!! 100 % correct!!!
Was “Moslem” murder Jihadi John a murderer?
Was “Christian” murderess Carla Faye Tucker a murderess?
Any difference?
Yes there is a difference. Carla Faye Tucker became a Christian in prison before her execution and was one person. jhadi john is one of millions who can go jhadi at any given moment by following the commands of their god in their book the quran. Read it some time to see what they are commanded to do by their god; and it is not speaking of ancient times, but of current life and always; until their “struggle” is completed.
You are afraid of numbers?
Why?
Isn’t God on OUR side?
Who is against US?
Ahh…yep…now I remember dealing with you before. No one said one word about being “afraid of numbers”; you are only mocking my answer to you when you asked, “Any difference?” Of course God is on our side and it sure feels like you mocking…again. You know good and well there is a difference in your twisted comparisons of one murderess to millions of jhadists, including potential jhadists as one never knows when they will decide to go jhad on people. Your just trolling for an argument and there is none here as I will not engage with your agitating ignorance. Take care.
9/11 rememberance is OUR BEST WAY TO REMEMBER WHAT ISLAM REPRESENTS!!
If you will remember , our MUSLIM IN THE WHITE HOUSE tried to make sure that 9/11 would not be remembered and he refused to observe any ceremonies that remembered 9/11. It’s was his way to take the first step so that our children would NOT remember or know about 9/11.
Big Stan — All caps does not enhance you position, moron!
The arrogance of these people.
Yeah and Obama has been eating and abetting them along with Hillary by running text payer funded guns and weapons to them. Now he’s bringing him in the country or shall we say flooding them into the country to put more tax burden on the American people to cripple our debt!
Kudo’s to you Big Stan. Islamist bastards have been terrorists for over 1500 years, murdering, torturing, raping, pillaging Christians from the middle east, across north africa and into Europe. It was the REAL reason for “The Crusades”, and only finally stopped by a coalition of Franks,Spanish,and German forces led by the Great but forgotten Frank, Charles Martel, grandfather of Charlemagne. Pray God sends us another Martel to lead “A Final Crusade”!
Yeah fuck islamic people
Them low life’s were the bush/clinton crime family, remember dick Chaney sent the fighter planes that were scrambled back to base, Col. Tim Osman AKA Ben Laden never had a hand in 911, he was sick and dying, sonny bush stated repeatedly they were not really after him, it was an inside job, apparently you forget that the CIA gave some muslims a car full of bombs to blow it up a few yrs prior, but either way, look at all the dead troops since then and the military are protecting the poppy fields in Afghanistan, the worst criminals we have to worry about are the bush, clintons and the sodomite in chief and his first man and george schwartz soros, who has funded most of the crime and mayhem committed by the refugee invasion to overthrow the government for the new world order.
One thing to do and quite easily done is stop funding them by buying oil from the Middle East. We don’t need to import oil anymore. We’ve had one major new strike in SW Texas that has reserves larger than the Saudi’s We’ve since had another one near by. We are exporting oil for the first time in almost 20 years (not counting Alaska perhaps) We have no need to import any. We also have no need to drill offshore especially when companies like BP are running slipshod operations and the government is completely failing to carry out mandatory inspections of the offshore drilling site.
I’m inclined to ask whose pockets in Washington DC are getting lined and then stuffed full?
The phone calls from passengers to their families in the moments before impact do not contradict the fact 19 Muslim murderers killed over 3000 on what began as a beautiful September morning…the recently published physicists stating controlled demolition do not contradict that fact but lead us to look closer at what may have been perceived as 19 murderers into considering those 19 murderers used only as agents changing America into surveillance state. Uncle Sam didn’t let that crisis go to waste” whether involved or not…it seems they were ignored fostered and protected from detection or prosecution till they boarded those planes…the video of an object passing WTC exactly as plane impacts gives furthervisible evidence of controlled demolition theory. But who done it”? We can only guess..
Just as we can only guess what Moses actually heard from the burning bush, or how ET managed to phone home.
That said, you are right that the Bush administration took full advantage of the situation to considerably reduce the freedom of movement of not just Americans. but travellers around the world.
The Obama administration has been a corrupt pro Muslim attack on America. If we had approached Workd War II this way we would be directed by the 3rd Reich.
Obama’s some aches in Laos recently show what a trouble maker he is. Our media wants us to elect a total criminal now? Hillary Clinton will lead the USA into a series of situations that will cripple the USA!
How so? You owe it to the American people to explain further what this “series of situations that will cripple the USA” is.
now you know, STUPID
Now I know what?
the series of situations that will cripple the US, DUH a dumbkrat??????????
Let’s assume that I really am dumb. Can you in any way help me to understand what you mean by the series of situations that will cripple the US? Can you list one or two? That’s not a lot to ask when the future of the country depends on us stupid people knowing what they are.
And 30% of voters think she is fine. Gruber was right, they are stupid. High debt, welfare, food stamps, unemployed, support terrorists with men from Gitmo ,and money to Iran. Hopefully when terrorists strike here, they will be among the casualties . I will shed no tear, they will get what they deserve.
I must be stupid as you so gallantly suggested, but I have no idea what you are saying. Do you?
I bet your REAL last name is WARREN !
You are not the first person to say that and,once again, I take it as a compliment.
Some people are so stupid, you can spit in their eye and they ask you if it’s raining. You just proved that.
That’s a good simile, I might use it one day.
Would you care to explain how taking a comparison to Elizabeth Warren as a compliment makes me stupid?
No, I believe you just work for the White House as a paid political agitator and propagandist. Either that, or you must be an independently rich 1 percenter with all that time on your hands to troll this site!
You are right about one thing – I have the time to spend commenting on this site. I would not call it trolling because it is not my intention to create discord. On the contrary, I wish to engage in dialogue.
Your comments belie your denial!
Why Warren is a loonie liberal that lied being Native American to secure a job. Strange that you think being associated with a liar is a complement.
The Muslims are great about rewriting history. They deny the Holocaust ever happened, that Temple Mont was the site of the Jewish Temple to the True God, that all the lands of the Middle East were Christian, that Allah was the ancient Arabian moon god (an idol), that Islam has been a cult of death and war since Satan created it. The really bad thing is that our leaders accept their view of history. What this country needs is a French style revolution including the Reign of Terror to rid itself of corrupt leaders and Satanic Muslims and then nuke all Islamic countries. Forget about this false flag crap. The Muslims did it, just like they killed 100’s of Americans since.
Am I glad that you are not running for office!
Who cares what your glad of?
Well, I do. And I have a few followers who might also.I find the ideas expressed by texas1 truly repulsive. And disturbingly similar to someone who IS running for office.
Well I guess your indoctrination into this country skipped the oath of allegiance to our principles. We have no obligation to allow foreigners who do not assimilate to our values as a society….just because the Kenyan got elected doesn’t mean that average Americans feel any less about the values of which this country was founded.
Are you seriously suggesting that new Americans have been indoctrinated? If you are right then we should all be well and truly filled with your values.
In my experience, the average American has more sense – and respect – than to call our President ‘the Kenyan’
Having been in the US army and taking an oath to defend the constitution and then becoming a policeman and again swearing to do so again, I would hate to see it ground into the dirt by a civil war and I don’t know just what my conscience and honor would force me to do about it, but unfortunately, it may just have to come to that.
God bless the Constitution and the United States of America.
I just hope it’s not too late.
You have no choice. It is our duty to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. Those who refuse to uphold the Constitution are the enemies. They must be destroyed.
texas, right you are. That is partly what is wrong with Common Core. The publishers have been influenced by muslims and have rewritten history to say that the muslims helped settle this country, contributing to our heritage while the publishers have eliminated anything that Christianity contributed to America. Where are the hospitals, schools, universities, orphanages, old folks homes that Islamic terrorists have built in this country? But Catholics, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Jews, Seventh Day Adventists, etc. have. Really disgraceful. The bleeding hearts who support the outrageous “bleachbit” of Islamic terrorists are complicit in rewriting the truth of history. It was Islamic terrorists who 15 years ago destroyed 2977 lives on 9/11/01 (not to mention destroying family members’ lives, as well), our iconic Twin Towers, an airliner, and our security. NO! Leave the words “Islamic terrorists” in and let those who support the removal take a hike. I am sick of all the PC tripe that is killing this country and making it less safe for our citizens. Look at the Boston Marathon, Ft. Hood, San Bernardino, the Pulse Club in Orlando, etc.. Not to overlook all the atrocities and radical Islamic terrorist attacks around the world, including one foiled over this past weekend in front of Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris where a car loaded with six canisters of propane was left to explode during crowded Mass times. No more PC!!
I’m surely with you on every word and i’m sure many others are as well. Wasn’t it Abraham Lincoln who said that we would not be destroyed by those from overseas on our shores but from WITHIN our own government? They have put them into our political offices and that is definitely WITHIN.
How did we get to Common Core? Not that it is not relevant. Education in this country is abysmal.
Exactly how do you know about our education system? Did you come over on a student visa? If, in your opinion it is so bad in the USA why are you here? Are you milking our social services? To recap you think Americans are generally stupid and hateful people. Why did you become a citizen again?
Love it or leave it….nothing in between should be accepted.
It is not our countries’ obligation to take in foreigners who feel the need to discredit the very nation they wish to claim for their citizenship.
YOU ARE KNOWN BY THE COMPANY YOU KEEP. AND IF ONE DOES NOT WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE TERRORIST IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM,,THEN THE DECENT ONES SHOULD BE PROTESTING THE FACT THAT THEIR MUSLIM TERRORIST SHOULD BE CONDEMNED AS TERRORIST AND NOT REMAIN SILENT AS THEY ARE . IF NOT, THEN THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE MUSLIM TERRORIST. THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY OUTCRIES BY THE MUSLIM COMMUNITIES FROM THE VERY BEGINNING,EXCEPT FOR THE DANCING IN THE STREETS WHEN THE TOWERS FELL!
As far as I know, Donald Trump is the only person to have observed this dancing in the streets. Maybe I’m wrong/ Maybe you were there as well.
There was video footage of dancing in the streets in Muslim countries after it happened.
There were moslems at the Cleveland Clinic that were dancing and jumping for joy and had to be protected from an angry mob.
You are more full of shit then most of the commie useful idiots.
Get out of MY country and live with you r moslem sisters and brothers anywhere else you wangt.
I’m sorry but I am not leaving ‘your’ country, although illiterate bigots like you often make me want to.
Elizabeth, that is an out and out lie!~ There were films, news reports that have been located as recently as yesterday, and shown on TV and the Internet depicting them in NJ, in NYC, dancing on the roofs celebrating the destruction by your buddies of our beloved NYC. Too bad you haven’t updated your lib talking points. We’re voting to Make America SAFE and Great Again – TRUMP/Pence!!!
If you are accusing me of a lie you need to provide some evidence to support your claim. Show me some of these films and news reports.
Ms Whitehouse…..google it yourself since you have so much free time to engage in dialogue and search the WWW. It is out there and you will be more inclined to believe it if it you took the time and researched for yourself instead of being spoon fed what the media wants you to know
Like a good lawyer who does not ask a question unless he already knows the answer, I have Googled this topic. There seems to have been some celebration by Palestinians (and who can blame them after the way they have been treated by the US), but even Breitbart wrote that the notion of Muslims in the New York area celebrating the attacks was unfounded.
Well reporters witnessed it and actually reported about the joy they saw of some Muslims when 9/11 occurred. Reporters described it as tailgate style parties. It was only when the Donald made those comments in 2015 and embellished that thousands were witnessed dancing in the streets that the lame stream media turned on him and ignored their stories reporting what occurred on 9/11.
I CANT BELIVE ALL THE BS ABOUT 911 BLAMING MUSLIMS,IT WAS THE JEWS THAT DID IT,IT WAS CONTROLLED EXPLOSIVES, CONTROLLED EXPLOSIVES, CONTROLLED EXPLOSIVES, !!!!! READ WHAT RICHARD GAGE HEAD OF ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS OF AMERICA HAS TO SAY ABOUT THE TWIN TOWERS,IT WAS JEW OWNED FULL OF ASBESTOS, ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO CLEAN!!!!!!!!AIRPLANES DID NOT DO THIS,THE BUILDINGS FELL IN FREE FALL,ANY ONE WITH A BRAIN CAN TELL THEY WHERE BLOWN UP ?????????????????
May I suggest that you check yourself into a mental health clinic as soon as possible/
You’re nothing but a moron.
BUT, he’s right about the controlled explosives!!
Post IRREFUTABLE proof or you’ve proven yourself to be as big a moron as your buddy, the delusional idiot, TONY.
Don’t save things to prove myself, I don’t have to, it’s been shown on many sites many times since then and YOU can’t prove me wrong!! Deal with it!!
WE’re on the same side, but I don’t post bullshit like some folks do!!
You just proved yourself to be a LIAR. You can’t prove your point and that’s that. Thanks for proving ME RIGHT. You’re a laughable, lying, delusional moron.
YES, THEY WERE BLOWN UP BY TWO JET AIRLINERS!
And which liberal conspiracy theorist are you getting your information from? And just because you put everything in ALL CAPS doesn’t make it any more true.
THERE WAS NO HOLOCAUST !!!!!!!!!!!!!! READ A BOOK ((( THE MYTH OF GERMAN VILLAINY )))))) BY A REAL AMERICAN VIETNAM COMBAT HERO !!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, please. A real American Vietnam combat hero knows that there was no Holocaust? But the millions of survivors and families of those who perished, the troops who liberated the concentration camps, the hundreds of thousands of photographs the horrors are all wrong?
Muslims attempt to deny the Holocaust every day, nothing new there. Read the comments of Iran’s Ahmadinejed and others if you doubt this. The Muslims were allies of the Nazi’s during WW2 so naturally they’d wish to distance themselves from what is viewed by the world at large as a horror although naturally one cannot expect an adherent of Islam to lose any sleep over 6 million slaughtered Jews – their sworn enemies. I haven’t read the book, but from the readers comments Mr. Bradberry makes unsubstantiated claims that have been refuted by historians.
So did you get your PRAYER RUG from Iran ???
No, I don’t pray.
Your stupid mother should have taken a coat hanger to her tw@t when she found out one of her John’s got her knocked up.
How I wish you would change your user name! Here I am trying so hard to promote the idea that being nice to each other could solve so many of the world’s problems, then you come along.
Do you actually take pleasure in such elaborate and thoroughly nasty insults? Sure, one could argue that Tony deserves all the invective you can throw at him. But I think that what he needs more is a good shrink and probably some strong medication.
Blah, blah,blah. Nobody cares about your moronic BS.
I will wager that more people care about my “moronic BS” than they do about yours.
Millions of people were murdered in the Holocaust and not all of them were even Jews. The ones who could prove useful to the Germans were allowed to live…
No sweat,,,,,Kill them all and let Allah sort them out.
No Moslems=No Problems.
Yea, Moslems not Muslems – Moslem is obsolete but still a correct spelling and it pisses the enemy off when you use “Moslem” – I have NO problem offending enemies of the United States, either.
Texas 1, I am with you. Lock and load. the revolution is here and now. We need to start our own “reign of terror” against Washington. Let the heads start rolling.
Good for you. Stand your ground and continue to stand up for truth and America. I salute you.
The reason our country is such a disaster today is because of history being changed to suit ones opinion instead of facts
You are right to condemn changing history to suit current opinion. But can you give a couple of examples of how that has happened recently?
Islamist must recognize that there are Islamist that are terrorists and others that are not and that Al Quida is just an organization of the movement at which belongs Boko Haram, Al Nursa, ISIS and many others.I am liberaral and politically correct but my memory is good and my political analysis is great. This system is built on historical amnesia, ie the White terrorism against the American Indians currently in discussion in the North Dakota pipeline. Let us not forget that the Islamic terrorists want to destroy our civilization. This has nothing to do neither with terrorism per se or White terrorism nor with Islamist that pray to Allah peacefully. 9/11 IS ALL ABOUT ISLAMICTERRORIST.
There is more and more of this kind of thing happening.
The answer to it is to ignore those critics and call it what it is, Islamic Terrorism.
Everybody knows that Obama is the enabler here, he only has three months to go until we can change our government and throw him into history’s trash heap where he belongs.
Facts Are Facts.
There is so much intellectual dishonesty and plain deception and evil from the leadership of this nation that there is an extremely bad odor emanating from Washington and other centers of politics! But, there is a day of reckoning coming! These liars and deceivers will suddenly find themselves standing in judgment and they will have absolutely no defense! There is a place reserved for them in eternity!
well as for what i know ,islam is the only religion that tells you to lie, steal , cheat and even kill to achieve your goal , and that is what the freak in the white house has done for 8 years
Give me a few minutes and I will consult my copy of “God, the most unpleasant character in all fiction” to find a few examples of where the bible advocates much the same. Because of course, the Koran is nothing but Mohammad’s interpretation of the old testament.
don’t waste your time , i ain’t no bible thumper ,i really could care less about islam or the bible ,the point is , killing is just wrong , and if people would stop doing things to hurt others and live by a simple code and do what is good for man kind , instead of all this crazy bull shit , the world would be a better place for all , animals kill for servival , humans kill for stupid reasons , so who are really the animals , if you can’t find better things to do with your time , then do us all a favor and commite suicide , don’t take your insanity out on others , other words get a life
We do agree on one thing: killing is just wrong.
I was very excited to read the start of your post, but then it degenerated into stuff I was unable to process.
You are so right that wanton killing is wrong, and that humans kill for stupid reasons. Humans go to war for stupid reasons. And, yes a thousand times over, animals are much more moral than thinking human beings.
LIZ.. JUST LOOK UP RICHARD GAGE, IF YOU WANT THE TRUTH< STOP YOUR STUPID ASS COMMENTS, GOT IT ????????????
IT WAS ON THE TV NETWORKS,SHOWING THE JOY OF THE PEOPLE,ONE ONLY HAD TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE NEWS WHEN IT HAPPENED
SO IT SEEMS . 10-4
What are they trying to play the old slave trick to get ahead by bringing up old trash and to suck the tits of the American Sacred Cows?
Among Sir Winston Churchill’s close friends were IKE, FDR and Marshal!
Another was LAWRENCE OF ARABIA!
Was he ever friendlt with the likes of Herbert Hoover?
Barack the great Muslim, just appointed a Muslim to our federal court system. Does anyone now doubt that he is at least a sympathizer? He won’t denounce them because he is one, and Hillary is right behind him. IT is time to STOP allowing the penetration of our society by these people. Intent is to eventually destroy us, period
So, Tom. How would you feel if the President (any president) appointed an atheist to the federal court system?
Well the atheist wouldn’t be dreaming to kill an infidel for their 72 virgins would he Elizabeth….oh I remember you haven’t bothered to read the Kuran so you wouldn’t know about the motivation of jihadists or their plan to exterminate infidels. Is an atheist any better or worse a judge then a lesbian or a homosexual?
Of course the atheist would not be dreaming of killing an infidel, no matter how many virgins were on offer.
Is an atheist any better or worse a judge then a lesbian or a homosexual? I don’t know. We have not had the chance to find out.
Incidentally, the American public would vote for a Jew, a gay, or a Muslim for President before they would vote for an atheist.
“if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it probably is a duck”! Islamic terrorists is the proper term and surely needs no “political correctness”! If “good Muslims” object than they are decades late in distancing themselves and joining a global effort to eradicate this scourge on all mankind!
How can anyone say the writing on the memorial was inflammatory when the facts are
are the facts. 3000 freedom loving Americans were killed by Islamic Terrorist. When I see something “inflammatory” I do not go get a gun, or pick a fight. I evaluate it for what it is which is mostly stupid anymore and move on. In a free country we will no longer be able to live if we can not report facts as they are, history as it was, and speak our feelings. Offending someone in what is said, means no one can speak at all. We will always have people who disagree with any and everything that is said. We will be robots, no longer free, and life will be sad.. Wake Up People. This is how it starts for control of the population.
Facts. Out of the nearly 3000 people who died on 9/11, 400 (including the perpetrators) were foreign nationals.
And 300 million freedom-loving individuals had their freedom of movement severely curtailed – not by the terrorists, but by the PATRIOT act.
As i see it, all those who read the Koran must believe the same things as the “ISLAMIC” terrorists do..they carry out what the book says and the others cheer them on. There is no such thing as “good” muslims and the sooner some ppl understand this the better off we’ll be..9/11 was only one of the many attacks there were around the world since then..and BO and Hillary are bringing in muslim refugees and ppl support them..
They were muslims and they were terrorists. That’s a FACT. Deal with it.
Elizabeth you are dealing with insane racist, bigoted and very hateful fools. I appreciate your tolerance, but it is useless to try to convince them of anything that’s truthful and makes any sense. They spew hate in the name of Jesus Christ without knowing any thing except what fake news tells them. Jesus was about one thing “Love”. they seem to forget that. Mohamad was much like Jesus. More people die from religious wars than any other cause in history. Any other religion than their own gives to hatful speech and misunderstanding of all religions.
Elizabeth you have courage.
Thank you JfS. I wouldn’t call it courage. After all, even using my real name, I a am pretty well insulated by the anonymity of the internet. Obstinacy, stupidity, futility? Possibly.
Up is down, right is wrong, laws don’t matter.
Welcome to Animal Farm and 1984 modeled USSA.
They are just plain and simple muslims; islam is shit; it is a filthy political scheme shrouded in religious disguise and must be completely wiped from the face of the earth. Islam is the unwiped ass of the world.
Keep in mind that Muslims are every bit as honest as democrat politicians.
MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO ELIMINATE FUTURE ATTACKS FROM THESE TOWEL HEAD SAVAGES, who have done nothing for 7000 years but ride around on the backs of camels murdering each other, would be 4 strategically placed nukes. The sooner the better. While we’re at it, airlift Obama, Kerry, Pelosi, Reid, Feinstein, and the rest of these Fabian Sociolist hypocrites over there for the fireworks. The sooner the better.
No wisdom there!!!
Bertie Cuntles.. Why don’t you cut those stupid looking cunt hairs off your stupid face. Your opinion is insipid and means not shit to me. You are a retarded moron and as far as I know, from reading the volumns that you have scribed you regularly eat shit.
To muslime and the other followers of the perver sicopath Mootimid. There is only one islam and it tells its practioneers to subjagate the world by any means to allah.
If the tide turns, you will find your nice friendly islimic neighbor stooping your wife, daughters, and boys while you are bound and gaged. When they are finished, you will get sodomized by them.
Noticing that this article,is written by Billy Grayum… I See the Christianity behind the Bush Dynasty, That Caused the Travesty!…
You are so right. ! with the help of the Iluminati, and the Zions. they got no respect for Human life, The Bushes ordered the sinking of the Lusetania, a cruse liner, everyone died, he blamed it on a German U.boat, the Germans had no U.boats in those waters at that time, just to get us in the WW2. 9/11. to get us in the DS.2, Wonder how meny life’s the Bushes are responsible for.? they has started 3. wars.
I’ Think the muslims got a point, all head of state’s in the Middle East clearly stated to Bush, come up with any prof that Bin Ladin was behind 9/11, they will turn him over, Bush failed. 15. of the hijackers was Saudies, Bush attacked Iraq.?, Bush so the attack on the towers on TV long time before it was aired.? Bush send’t both AF, squaderons out in the Atlantic on a training mission that morning, they was sopose to stay put, and protect the WH, and Pentagon.?. Why did Bush send all 87. FBI. agents that had there office in BLDG,No.7. to California, this office has always been open 24/7,?. and that bldg was newer hit by a plain, but steel colapsed, ?. The Police arested 45, Israeli Zion’s that day, 15, belonged to Israeli’s best demolition team, whay did bush pardon all of them, and the prime minister from Israel came over and picked up all of them, they was deported back to Israel.The world’s best demolition expert is from Holland, he said on national TV. that anyone that is unable to see that 9/11. was not a controlled demolition is not a very smart person, the next day he was killed by the order from B—. ?.
Islam is the Syphilis of the Soul and the Super Highway straight unto the bowels of HELL, where Satan/Allah awaits all Sinners and Muslims. Allah is nothing more than Satan from the Bible, thus, all the Atrocities and Perversions within the sick Death Cult called Islam. President Trump will set these satanic pigs of Islam straight!
Catholics try to disavow religious terrorists Catholic Hitler and Catholic Pol Pot and Catholic Timothy McVeigh and Catholic Adam Lanza and Catholic Guy Fawkes… and so Muslims try to disavow EvilBushJr.’s ButtBuddy Muslim Religious Terrorist Osama bin Laden and the 9/11 Muslim Religious Terrorists… With the help of Muslim/Christian Obama…
News Flash, Skippy! The terrorists behind the 9/11 destruction of the World Trade Center were NOT radical Baptists, Jewish, Hindu, Catholic, Methodist, Buddhists, Sikhs, or Mormons They were radical Muslims. They were Islamic terrorists. It is historical fact. If the truth offends you, don’t try to change history. Try to change yourselves.
We didn’t retaliate enough. The middle east is still not glass.
when will Americans wake up and realize that the democrat in office is a muslim and that islam terriorist will do all they can to destroy us
We all saw it on and in the news! We all got to hear the historical background on how and who caused this catastrophe. We all saw the people identified and/or arrested who were involved in this cowardly act. And, now like the daily murders of innocent civilians throughout the world caused by these low life wretches, they seek to absolve themselves of any culpability for their actions. Lies, deception and treachery are at the core of these people and their culture. World history dating back many centuries support my current statements. No matter what they say (It is a lie), no matter how they present themselves (It is deception), and no matter their seeming peacefulness (It is just treachery) they are not to be trusted…ever. History tells of others who have encountered these initially peaceful people. It ended in much blood being shed on both sides to dislodge them from existing civilized societies. What we see across the world today is a modern reenactment of what took place centuries ago and is being repeated again today across Europe and here in the US. If you think things are bad now here within our country, just wait to see what these supposed peaceful people in the name of their god and its Quran have in store for us!
people I knew died that day…they were murdered by islamic terrorists, savage animals!
It is a tenant of Islam to “…lie to the infidel. Tell him what he wants to hear” and if you have had much to do with them in business you will find that is exactly what they do.
Google “Two Minute Conservative” for more.
Google tenant and you will come up with occupants of a rented property. Try tenet instead.
Pardon my flub. I do know better…
Pardon my typo: I have repaired it. I think you would be happier sewing with that needle.
Indeed.
what the “H” is the truth about 911?????
This discussion is about “what to call them”? But name calling and level of life form is the front runner, so if we could find the right appellation all would all be cozy and wrapped up ?
I’d like to know what hit the Pentagon–for starters–no damage to the lawn andno plane parts. Just for starters! And why our Govt has to hide out finding and exposing. And sky watching pics don’t help
Tell those muslims to pound sand. And quit raping little boys.
What does that mean? No snark intended, I simply have no idea what you are trying to say.
Pound sand means “go to hell” and the raping part is in reference to the Afghan muslim our troops were training when the afghan commander kidnapped an 11 year old boy and chained him to his desk and raped him for 2 weeks straight. When the mother heard what was going on, she went to get the boy and the commander beat the crap out of her. The mother then went to our troop leader, told him the story, he went to rescue the boy and the afghan commander laughed at him and said this is normal behavior. He then pushed the commander to the ground and got the kid out of there. And for his heroic effort, Obozo is kicking him out of the service. Obozo is a muslim POS.
That is a horrible story, if it is true. I cannot check it because you did not give enough details for me to google it.
My reply is Jerry Sandusky and sundry Catholic priests. Do you remember the parable about let him who is without sin cast the first stone?
Yeah, I get the parable angle. Doesn’t change my disgust for the Islamic way of life.
I respectfully suggest that you know very little about the Islamic way of life.
Thanks for your input.
You’re welcome.
You don’t think that Islam had anything to do with the events of 9/11/01?
No, I don’t think Islam had anything to do with 9/11.Clearly the attackers were Muslims and fanatical followers of Bin Laden. Possibly more so than they were rabid believers in Allah. But you cannot blame an entire religion with 1.2 billion mostly peaceful followers for the actions of a small number of fanatics. There would be an outcry if Muslims suggested that Christianity was to blame for Jonestown, or Waco, or Sandy Hook.
That said, religion has a lot to answer for. As Voltaire said “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make
you commit atrocities.”
Not quite the whole truth. Charles Martland was involuntarily separated from the Army because he and another serviceman beat up a police commander that they were told had raped a 12 year old boy. He was disciplined for assaulting a civilian and failing to follow the process of law. Obama had nothing to do with any of this.
Of course the story has been distorted and the retold in a number of different versions. Sometimes it is a 5 year old girl, sometimes Martland was supposed to have witnessed the rape.
There IS a lot of evidence of widespread sexual assault by Afghani of enemy captives. This is not an activity of just those of the Muslim faith.
Thank you for filling in the details. Much as I suspected.
It does not matter what the nationality was of the 3000 people who were killed. They were all killed by “Islamic Terrorist”. The Patriot act is another issue and with Obama a form of it would have happened as the Americans (all groups) did not care enough to stop the Congress.
No it really did not happen it was just a figment of our imagination. Along with oblammer has been good for this country we are just little sheep and should follow oblammer and his muzzies.
Only the union workers in NYC who vowed never to allow the construction of a mosque next to the new Tower kept the Muslims from being able to erect a monument to their accomplishment of 9/11.
To bow to their demands is humiliating and it is a lie.
Vote Trump if you still like America.
History will show that this was false flag operation with the CIA and Mossad being the terrorist’s
There are more people in the world who follow is Islam than there are who follow any other Western religion, and they, like us, have some extremists. We still find school boards which want to only teach Creationism and who seem to think that posting the 10 commandments somewhere on school grounds will actually do something. The new terrorists or at least those with a strong potential for engaging in terrorist acts, are already hear, and usually call themselves Patriots or something close. Those who occupied the Wild Life Refuge – a terrorist act – Taking land that did not belong to them – the same as ISIS – are a larger threat to the people of the US than the illegals or any other identified group in this election.
And this is why we must elect Trump as president. We must stop the madness of allowing the socialist democrats to re-write our history to fit their twisted PC version of how they want things to be. We must stop the insanity of taxing American citizens to give a free ride to illegal aliens and foriegn refugees. Neither of which should be brought into the country and set up on our welfare system. We need no more welfare leeches that are sucking the financial lifeblood right out of our country. We will continue becoming a third world chit hole country if democrats are allowed to continue to lead us into socialism, opening our borders and bringing in thousands, millions even, of people and then expect the American tax payer to pay for the democrats generosity. We are barely holding our own in the economy, caring for our own families and the American welfare society that has become the financial burden of the working middle class, and democrats expect us to support their pets projects of illegals and refugees too. I say, “HELL NO”! We can afford no more of the democrats hopeful voter pool! Send them home and close the doors to all but legal immigration! Not only are we broke and can’t afford the new arrivals, we can’t afford to pay for our own. STOP THE DEMOCRAT MADNESS NOW!
Because Americans don’t know what Islam really IS and how it is taught, the sermons, the books that come out of Saudi ECT. There has to be more public education, not the shallow sales pitch, but the overall intent and the fear they are programmed to have for questioning or opposing some of their goals..whether with violence or Without It in politics and taking over our cities for their own State within the State. It is already happening but never shown to us by Media. More needs to be exposed but in an intellectual way. It has to be shown in Truth and not like bigotry but Facts & not just quotes from the Qur’an. That is about the worst way to show, unless it is in a Sermon by one of their living Clerics. The connections with Saudi and the Arab League has to be shown and the global Ummah and its goal. Facts without emotion will sink in. Also Mohammeds LIFE and all he did is important but not the usual ranting about being a pedophile….that Style just closes peoples ears. Just facts are enough with details. See Gatestone, Citizen Warrior, etc. Not rants, just facts.
THEY WERE MUSLIMS TERRORISTS AND NO MATTER WHAT ANYBODY SAYS THEY NEED TO LEAVE THIS COUNTRY.
America, never forget!
Obama has brought in thousands of the raghead and if elected Hillary says she will bring in five times as many , these people do not blend with the American way of life, they want us to change to their way of life . Please do not vote for Hillary
No matter how you say it, it was 19 MUSLIMS…who flew two planes into the World Trade Center, and one into a field in Pennsylvania. The terrorists are muslim, and yell allahu akbar. allah is the god of islam. therefore they are ISLAMIC TERRORISTS honoring allah. so all of you muslims who don’t like it?????? Leave
no matter what you do you cannot change history we will stop you and we will tell future generations what is the truth so if you cant handle it go back and fight your own world
Are we going to rewrite more of our History? Half of what the students learn today has been re-written from what really happened, or left out of their books entirely.
The terrorists who destroyed the World Trade Center and killed thousands of civilians were NOT radical Baptists, radical Catholics, radical Jews, radical Methodists, radical Hindus, or radical Buddhists. They WERE radical Islamists (AKA Muslims) and that is a fact. To put anything else on that memorial is a lie and dishonors the murdered souls who were in those buildings.
If decent, patriot Americans don’t stop the rewriting of history and political correctness infection, we soon won’t know our nation!
The muslims celebrated and chanted ”Death to America” and now we are told not to blame them for killing 3,000 Americans. They did not feel our pain and suffering. Now they want us to forget their hate. It is like the holocaust they were Hitlers partners in gathering up the Jewish to be killed. They now say it never happened , but that Hitler didn’t go far enough they say that they will finish the job taking the great satan which is America as well. America, except for Obama’s racist and his muslims is assimilation not separation.
How joyfull this life has become with POTUS giving Billions of coins and gold w/o any white man in washingtone and the fort knox being ripped of by his faithfull staff and none are white either brings the ripoff has continued right before our eyes and he isn’t in the slammer as a non result!
hey they’re muslim terrorists,nothing is going to change that.suck on it muslims.
Acts of terror are not committed by Swedish old ladies in wheel chairs, of American Boy Scouts, or Australian Aborigines, but without exception by young, male Islamic men who hold to a version of Islam that makes it acceptable to murder innocent people. The terrorists of 9/11 were Islamic terrorists who hijacked four airliners, and used three of them to commit unspeakable acts of horror. The fourth plane, which was said to have targeted the White House was crashed when citizens fought the terrorists. No, the Muzzies will not make us forget the eleventh of September, the modern-day Pearl Harbor.
Millennials have already forgotten because Common Core doesn’t teach it. Just saw a video where they don’t even know what year it took place. Pathetic!
9-11 call it like it is, islamic terrorist! And we will never forget!
I can’t wait until that A-Hole is out of office!
Rewriting history is what Islam does best. It is their path to a new world where they can say NOTHING BUT ISLAM EVER EXISTED. This is why they deny that the Jews ever lived in Israel. It’s why they have destroyed thousands of Christian churches, Hindu temples and Buddhist temples and statutes and built a MOSQUE on those sites so that in the future they can point to the mosques and say THERE WAS NEVER ANY ONE ELSE EXCEPT ISLAM. THE GOAL OF ISLAM IS TO KILL EVERYONE NOT ISLAMIC AND TAKE OVER THE WORLD. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THEIR PLAN FOR 1400 yrs and THIS AGE IS CALLED THE TIME OF MOHAMMED WHEN THEY WILL ACCOMPLISH THAT AND THEY HAVE A TIME LINE OF 50YRS. THEY HAVE ALMOST CONQUERED EUROPE AND AMERICA IS NEXT!! Check out the number of mosques that have been built here since Obama has been in office and the increase in the number of MUSLIMS. It’s freightening!
THEY CAN DENY THIS ALL THEY WANT BUT THE FACT IS THAT THEY ARE MURDERING BASTARDS
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Don’t get jumpy, I ran and all of those other wanna bees in iran, etc; need their clock cleaned before they pull off our birthday suit!
Simple solution: Muslims who refute the source of 9/11 will be rounded up and put on a tramp steamer at their expense and dropped off near the shore of Africa
where they can swim ashore to find peace w/their kind!
PC be damned, a spade is still a spade. Call it like you see it. If someone’s offended, have them read the US Constitution, free speech, Amendment 1. Offensive speech is still protected. If the Muslim arguments can’t convince everyone else or even if they can, it makes no difference. We have the RIGHT to offend those bastards and their Libtard supporters, and there’s nothing they can do about it! If they try, well then welcome to the new violent revolution coming soon to a shooting gallery near you in the heart land of America.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmond Burke.
Unfortunately for the Muslim’s, tyrants in government and Liberal America hating morons out there, there are still plenty of good well armed men and women out there. ONLY 3% of the population during the revolutionary war created this great nation. Today it’s well over that. And they are armed and will never give up their 2nd Amendment right. Because the 2nd Amendment protects the 1st Amendment by force if necessary.
So in the words of another great American, eat your crap sandwich and like it!
Well now I have heard it all!!!!!! Whoever this guy is that wrote this drivel, rest assured he is a MORON!!! Try writing something like this to anyone in a MUSLIM Country and say goodbye to your head!!!!! Man you can’t make this “stuff”up.
BUSH TURNED MUSLIM WHILE IN OFFICE…….HE AND THE MUSLIMS GOT TOGETHER FOR 9/11…EXPLOSIVES WERE PLANTED….IT MELTED THE STEEL FASTER THAT WAY….THEN HE ORDERED A LOW IMPACT MISSILE TO HIT THE PENTAGON..
You forgot to mention that the videos of the planes hitting the towers were photo-shopped, it was Martians who took control of Bush’s mind to make him turn traitor, and it was Santa Claus who fired the missile that hit the pentagon.
BUSH IS A KILLER LIKE GAY ONAMA, HIS TRANNY, AND THE CLINTONS !!!!!!!!
Never forget! !t was muslim terrorist that flew the planes into the Twin Towers!
Not surprising; they see how readily stupid Americans believe Clinton lies and figure many will believe ANYTHING, so why not!
I was there. I will NEVER EVER forget and NEVER EVER let them revise history.
On this saddest day of modern history.Muslims TERRORIST took of American Air Craft and Murdered over 3,000 people.These Satanic Muslims are responsible for these and many more American deaths inside the United States.There will be a lot more if they are allowed to come here freely.
C K Johnson, you are correct 1000%. Muslims, get out. We need a leader like Trump. Not a Muslim lover like the Muslim in the White House now. Trump 2016…
Actually having Islamic allies in the fight against this terrorism requires not alienating those people who could or would be our allies in eradicating the cancer in their midst. Using the term y’all are so fond of doesn’t make it politically possible for these allies to work with us. So unless you think we are really ready to fight 1.6 Billion Muslims it seems appropriate to focus on those that are the terrorists not making more; thought Bush and Co did a wonderful job of making more in invading Iraq.
Pig blood for Muslims.
The attackers of America were Saudi Sunni Salafis (also known as Wahabbists, but not by adherents). They consider ALL other Muslims as Apostates, who deserve death. And over decades they have assassinated, executed, and massacred millions of other Muslims. But they give us a choice, of paying the Infidel tax and living as submissives, or being executed. Fair, right?
Islam in Arabic means Submit.
There are some friendly Muslim sects. These include
1. Kurds (who integrate Jews into society, treat women as equals, and have some 10,000 Kurd women infantry under arms, fighting ISIS ),
2. Sufis (Sunni and Shia), found in every country with Muslims, especially Turkey and Indonesia (search Turk friend of Israel and Peace activist: “Ceylan Ozbudak bikini” !),
3. Ahmadi (who many Muslims do not consider to be Muslims, see Ahmadiyya Muslim Community,
4. Ismailis, led by the Descendant of the Prophet, the Aga Khan IV.
The Druze are not Arabs or Muslims, but their religion is distantly related to Islam.
An American Sufi leader visited some 200 U.S. Mosques and then testified to Congress that 90% were advocating JIHAD, to attain a Global Caliphate. Jihad may be “Peaceful”, as in Germany and Sweden, the Rape Capitals of Europe, or Violent, as on 9/11.
Americans are woefully ignorant about the details of Islam and Muslims.
Thank you!