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Survey: American Voters Don’t Trust Anti-Gun Politicians
Posted On 11 Oct 2017
According to a new Rasmussen survey, U.S. voters are highly suspicious of Democrats who spend much of their time campaigning or governing on gun control issues. 74% of likely voters think that politicians who often raise the gun issue are simply doing so for their own Washington careers and not for any serious legislative purpose. That’s bad news for Democrats like Chuck Schumer and Chris Murphy, who have used the Las Vegas tragedy to once again wade into the treacherous waters of unconstitutional fear mongering.
Right now, there is bipartisan legislation being generated on Capitol Hill to go after the most obvious boogeyman – the so-called “bump stocks” that Stephen Paddock used to transform his semi-automatic rifles into something more similar to fully automatic machine guns. That these modifications are legal was news to most Americans who know little about guns, and since an accessory like this cannot really fall under the protection of the Second Amendment, it’s no surprise to see Republicans eager to give the left a small win in the wake of the worst shooting in U.S. history. Some Republicans (and the NRA) are suggesting that a ban on bump stocks would be better handled by ATF regulations than legislation, but either way, the result will be the same.
As a sacrifice on the gun control altar, a ban on bump stocks isn’t the worst idea we’ve ever heard. The problem, of course, is that this won’t quell the left’s appetite for gun control. If Republicans are going into this under the delusion that “this’ll shut them up for a while,” they couldn’t be more wrong. If anything, this will only empower anti-gun Democrats to go after bigger and more blatantly unconstitutional laws, just as they used the mere chance at DACA legislation to start calling for widespread, 11 million+ amnesty for illegal immigrants.
This is why it would be wise to leave these regulations in the hands of the ATF. If we put it on the floor of the Congress, you can bet your bottom dollar that Democrats will try to sneak something else into the bill before it comes up for a vote. Republicans will be seen voting AGAINST legislation to ban bump stocks…or they will vote FOR stricter forms of gun control. It’s a political (and, possibly, constitutional) disaster either way.
Republicans win when they hold the line on guns, despite what the mainstream media narrative would have us believe. Second Amendment defenders care MUCH more about preserving gun rights than your average liberal cares about tearing them away. Perhaps that’s because, as the Rasmussen survey demonstrates, even the left’s base knows that Democrats are playing politics and not, as they claim, actually trying to make a difference in the landscape of American violence.
Curious title to this article ‘Survey: American Voters Don’t Trust Anti-Gun Politicians’.
Although cast as an anti-gun politician by this and other sites, Hillary Clinton was favored by 3 million more voters than the president.
Of course she was. That can happen when votes are cast 6 times each (Detroit).
Spare me your Fake News.
I saw on a Veritas video where one of the Democrat muckety mucks admitted they have been fixing elections for decades and LBJ used to BRAG about it!
Your Democrat muckety muck referenced was the NY State DNC Chair.
Harold you’re just a liberal demoRAT, mad because your side lost & is losing big time !!!!
Where the hell are you from ? Nice education, dumbass
Indoctrination, you mean.
communist line
LOSER! Quit whining!
Ahhh yes the “ she won the popular vote” talking point. Although true, it exactly proves the point that the electoral college works. Politicians, especially on the left, have the perception that other than the six most populous cities, which are on the East and West coasts, no one else in the remainder of the US matters. Hitlery thought she had it in the bag and then, BOOM, the people in those flyover states sent her a message loud and clear. 63 million Americans were tired of the long tiring deceitful corrupt Clinton legacy. Poor ol’ hag just needs to pack it in and quit embarrassing herself. If she barely beat out a 72 year old socialist in Bernie, and got out played by The Don, what does that say. Not a politician, Trump continues to change everything upside down, good, bad, indifferent… time will tell. I am more than willing to wait.
MAGA TRUMP 2020, PENCE/ GOWDEY 2024🇺🇸
3 million illegal voters, not citizens.
actually more than that Gene.
Evidence please.
TRUMP: Won 30 states hillary: Won 20 states.
You merely responded to the question.
What evidence can you provide to back up your already disproven claim of three million illegal votes.
The fact that Killary got as “close” as she did. LOSER.
In other words, you have nothing but whine.
Speak for yourself LOSER.
I did.
Obviously.
Well maybe not so obvious for the idiot I’m speaking to.
It does not matter if it was 3 million or 30 million. Donald TRUMP WON.
And America, and the world, lost.
You appear to sympathize with hillary, and her hollywood friends. Your comment says it all. I don’t have to add anything to it.
Then you’ve clearly paid no attention to what I’ve said.
No, you have made your position quite clear. It is great to wake up under a TRUMP Presidency each morning. Oh, the horror if we had to under hillary. The American People spoke loud and clear when they voted TRUMP into office. He will be one of the greatest to ever hold office. Stop bitching, stop getting in the way if you can not do something or say something constructive about making our Nation a great place to live in. President TRUMP gave up his Dream Life to serve America.
Oh the horror of those in office that hate “GOD”, believe in murdering innocent babies, wasting our money on people that don’t want to work, want to abolish the 2nd Amendment, gun confiscation, poison our children in our schools, and live perverted lives.
I may have made my position clear to an intelligent, rational person but clearly not to you.
So you enjoy waking up to having an admitted sexual predator/assailant in the WH?
Yes, the American people spoke loud and clear when nearly three million more voted for Hillary than did for Cheeto McTweeto.
That buffoon and your fellow sycophants have shown nno interest in doing anything to make things better for anyone other than the buffoon you half-wits (Yeah, I’m feeling generous) were stupid enough to have voted for and the oligarchs he serves.
I appears that your mother beat you in your early childhood. Please consult a doctor as soon as you can. You need help.
Well that’s clearly pointing the wrong way. You worship a buffoon intent on starting WW III, mocks the disabled, mocks Gold Star families, mocks war heroes, has admitted to sexual assault, thinks insulting nicknames are acceptable policy, brags/lies about the size of his dick on national television and worse, and I need help.
Sure.
Because that’s not delusional or anything…
You are definitely a true extreme liberal. Sounds like you have been greatly brain washed. How sad. When your numbers outnumber the Americans in this Country, then the very foundations of this great Nation will crumble.
Is projection all you have?
How pathetic.
I suppose, the heathen has to live amongst us.
I won’t say ALL, but if they:
1. First, allow illegals to have driver’s licenses, and
2. a couple of years later link the driver’s licenses to voter registration.
What have you got? Voter fraud! Massive!
Every examination of voter fraud has found it to be <0.0001%.
No reasonable person would use the word 'massive' to describe this
FRWNJs, on the other hand…
BWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA! Examination by WHOM? Commie cocksucking assholes such as yourself?
As opposed to what? Nazis like you?
In point of fact, no one has ever presented any evidence of the kind of voter fraud you and your cumguzzling ilk constantly whine about.
Nice name calling. Nazis are LEFTISTS, you MORON. Get a brain. If you already have one, pull it out of your ass.
Nice example of deflection.
Are you an idiot or a liar? It’s hard to tell.
If you don’t like being called the Nazi you’ve so readily and obviously proven yourself to be, stop being one.
Duh.
Here ya go. Just he FACTS:
The Associated Press finds that Clinton won 487 counties nationwide, compared with 2,626 for President-elect Donald Trump. Trump won 30 states. Trump won 2,822,736.9 square miles while Hillary won 765,219.4 square miles.
The AP considers parishes in Louisiana as counties in election tallies. Washington, D.C., and Alaska have a single statewide reporting unit. Virginia’s count includes 95 counties and 38 independent cities.
More importantly, in accordance with the US Constitution, the Electoral College Certificates of Ascertainment totals are Trump with 304 electoral votes while Clinton received 227 electoral votes (270 electoral votes required to win). Congress subsequently certified Trump as the winner and President Elect. Trump was sworn in as POTUS on January 20, 2017. President Trump lives in the White House, 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, DC 20500.
Meanwhile, almost a year later, Hillary remains clueless and lost walking in the woods wondering “What Happened?”
Not sure what your point is. The election is decided on the basis of the Electoral College an archaic system that undermines a true democracy: one man one vote. A system that Donald Trump actually that should be eliminated until it allowed him to win the election. Square miles, counties… they don’t vote. The vote is based on people and 3 million more people voted for Clinton that Trump. Claims of voter tampering, illegal voters, etc. are just claims continuing to be discussed so Trump feels more legitimate.
Your original point was Hillary received more total popular votes than Trump.
My point is simply Trump is legally the President of the USA.
What don’t you understand?
I never said Trump was not legally the President. If your point was that why were you reporting states and square miles? It’s about the Electoral College. I pointed out the Electoral College sabotages a true democracy knowing we aren’t one as some many here pound their chests talking about our democracy being superior to other governments. My original point was that the title of the article reports ‘American Voters Don’t Trust Anti-Gun Politicians’. This and other sites identify Clinton as an’Anti-Gun Politician’ and more Americans wanted her to be President than Trump. I’ll be glad to be corrected if someone has some facts to add.
So glad that you agree that Trump is our legally elected President. Get used to it because he will continue to be President until 2020.
Just checked my IRA gains since Nov 2016. WOW!
Let’s continue to Make America Great Again
We were ***not*** founded as a democracy; we were founded as a Constitutional Republic with safeguards to protect minorities from a “tyranny of the majority” and the 2016 Election is a textbook example of why we ***need*** the Electoral College (which is one of those safeguards). Without it two states, CA and NY — maybe add IL — would decide who would be president and everybody else may as well stay home.
So you would like where Ca. and Ny. could control who the president would be . One time you support the Constitution and the next you are against it ???? Or are you like the ones who only like what fits your wants??? I suppose you also like Illegals to vote ????
Well….thank God Harold we are not a true democracy…you need to go back to school…we are a Constitutional Republic….
But we don’t HAVE a democracy. Democracy is nothing but mob rule. We have a representative Republic. Chowderhead.
Voter fraud is Dem bread and butter.
‘Democracy is nothing but mob rule.’ That could be the new slogan of the Trump’s totalitarian regime.
But you liked Obamas racist Ruling . Are you a member of BLM the hate group part of the organization or are you still stuck on Hillary’s loss???
You’ve utterly failed to provide any evidence of voter fraud with that response.
Try agt.
Stay on topic this time
Don’t be stupid. VF is DNC SOP. Read the handbook.
VF?
VOTER FRAUD, you fucking idiot. Try to keep up. If you can’t , give your two daddies their keyboard back.
Only one dad and he went to Europe to kill sorry fucks like you.
No voter fraud?
Please explain how many precincts in Philadelphia and Detroit counted more votes than the total number of registered voters?
You have yet to provide any evidence of voter fraud.
Try again.
Great Summation!
All were in kalipornia.
Well, that’s 3 million stupid voters. I wouldn’t doubt that half of them are illegals !!! Trump 2020
Lets say that california had just as many votes as all the rest of the States in the USA. They could technically decide who the President would be, even is all the rest of the States voted for TRUMP. That is why we have the Electoral College System.
Fact: Los Angles County, CA has a population = the 11 least populated states. The Electoral College guarantees a voice for all as designed by our forefathers.
In colonial times, Virginia was the most populated state and our founding did not want one state to dominate the national power structure of the Federal Government.
I gave an extreme example. But that example explains why hillary might have gotten a few more votes than TRUMP, even though they may have been illegal votes in kalipornia.
My point is simply popular vote determines the Electoral votes that legally decides the victor. Hillary may have the largest vote total and still lose the election. Our founding fathers purposely designed the process to prevent the most populous states from determining all election outcomes and preserve a final say with less populated states.
I agree that most likely there was a significant amount of voter fraud associated with illegal voter registrations. Detroit and Philadelphia had multiple precinct vote totals greater than the number of eligible voters.
Looks like we both agree.
My point is simply popular vote determines the Electoral votes that legally decides the victor. Hillary may have the largest vote total and still lose the election. Our founding fathers purposely designed the process to prevent the most populous states from determining all election outcomes and preserve a final say with less populated states.
I agree that most likely there was a significant amount of voter fraud associated with illegal voter registrations. Detroit and Philadelphia had multiple precinct vote totals greater than the number of eligible voters.
YOU mean KKKaliforniastan. And I live there.
One time it was a beautiful State,,,,before the communist do over.
BIG 10-4, Rubber Duck. It still IS a beautiful state. It’s just run by criminal assholes.
UROK Ursus……….I know California is beautiful. It is a SHAME that the communists have took over in California. Maybe the Citizens will open their eyes and see the horror awaiting them.
Ah, the dead and the illegal. The democrat source of “new” votes. A wonderful addition to any campaign.
Fake comment. She lost when Donald Trump won 30 states over her 20 states. You have lost reality. Unbelievable.
More IDIOTS, you mean. And dead voters. And multiple voters. And other assorted non existing cyphers.
If that stat is even true.
i would’t TRUST A COMMUNIST DEMORAT AND A LOT OF RINOS, IF THEY WERE STANDING ON A STACK OF BIBLES 10 FEET HIGH, AND THEIR ASS’S WERE 24 KARAT GOLD LINED.
they are ALL SWAMP CREATURES, AND WILL TURN ON WE THE PEOPLE AND COUNTRY AT THE DROP OF A HAT.
Well said and spot on.
AMEN BROTHER!
Very eloquently put !
BULLS EYE and OoH Rahh
I forgot the corrupt rinos, like McConnell and Ryan, but they too will be removed from office for failing to pass anything. The tax break for America is the final straw if they fail to pass it!
McConnell and Ryan were so closely tied to the Obama While House and Harry Reid it will take the nation another fifty years to recover.
WHAT ABOUT THE TRAITOR MCCAIN?
That guy is puke too!
I KNEW HIM FROM VIET NAM. WHAT HE DID TO OUR POW’S
WAS CRIMINAL, AND NIXON PARDONED HIM! BOTH OF THEM
SHOULD HAVE HUNG!
He’s a treasonous traitor scumbag. But so is 3/4 of them including the fraud Obama and Hillary on down the line.
I AGREE, JOHN! GET A ROPE!
I done got one ready.You can pick a very high tree!
YUP! HANG EM HIGH!
Yeah, we veterans never forgot what songbird did in Hanoi. A complete failure, but daddy looked out for the son to save his a$$.
DADDY AND GRANDPA! WHAT A FAMILY!
If that being the case,, why did McConnell hold up Obama’s nomination to the Supreme Court? Kinda eats your words.
Here are the ones with McConnell and Ryan in stonewalling progress in congress. There are 9 more RINOS here that are needing to be replaced at their next election date! They are as bad as McConnell and Ryan and support them on everything. Get rid of them.
Senators John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Jeff Flake, Ben Sasse, Dean Heller, Jerry Moran, Cory Gardner, Susan Collins and Roy Blunt
Ya mean they haven’t already????
When are they going to realize that guns have no mind. They don’t just all of a sudden decide to start shooting and killing people.
Nuts behind the trigger make that decision, just like the NUTS in Congress that think they know everything about everything and don’t know A Damn thing about anything except how to screw the hard working TAX Payer!!
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Cars and Trucks kill people are you idiots going to try to take them too!!
So does planes and helicopters and knives and fire axes hammers.Shoot better quit making everything and live inside a bubble.
Exactly, take the Nail Guns away from the building industry too. Now you will piss off the Carpenters trade across this country.
You’re right about 1 thing, guns don’t have minds. the Democrats want to keep guns out of the Nuts behind the trigger but the damn Republicans who are owned by the NRA keep saying give those Nuts all the guns they want..
And screwing the TAX Payer, just look at that piece of garbage tRump submitted, screw the middle class while giving a massive tax break to the top 1%
And you sir are full of shit!!
I own guns because I can. Not because some shit head like you say I can’t or there is no need for them.
The constitution says I can.
Crazy people like you are the reason I carry A hand gun. You may think you are strong enough the carry A Police Officer with you, but guess what? By the time the Police get to help you it is to late.
If you are stupid enough to think that the criminals care about breaking the law or if they care you are nuts! All the so called congressman and senators that want to do away with guns all have armed security with them so why is it OK for them but not me and you? Oh yea they think they are somebody special, special edd if you ask me!!
So you stay where you are and I will stay in Texas and see who last longer!!
Nicely said my friend!
Good article! Let me add an interesting tidbit: a letter to the Akron, OH paper some years ago had this” “Why do I carry a gun? Because I prefer to prevent my murder, not have it solved.” I would suggest that the argument — especially in court — be “I was not trying to ***kill*** the attacker; I was trying to ***stop*** from killing me (or my family or friends).”
👍🏻 Thank you and stay locked and loaded🔫
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Brought to mind the response a woman had to some reporter’s question as to why she carried a gun, was she that fearful or afraid? Her reply was, “why should I be afraid, I’m the one with the gun!”
Exactly. Marines 1973-83 here….I’ve carried for 33 years…for the first year it was because I had to have my shoulder rebuilt from my last deployment in Grenada. After that I just felt comfortable because I spent the majority of my time working in South Central LA and the surrounding industrial/commercial areas of LA County/Orange County….worked every day during the LA riots. Loved the day I drove down Washington Blvd and saw the Asian store owners on the roof of their strip mall….shouldered AR’s and not one looter headed into their parking lot.
OOHRAH, Semper Fi brother! Y only ten? Medical? After 10, I said I might as well hang around long enough to make them pay me – sure wasn’t making much of a “livable wage” in those times!
OOHRAH…Yes, medical. I planned on life, following my Dad’s brother. I’m on my third shoulder replacement now and I carry 22 oz of titanium….lol. Life is good though and no regrets, I wouldn’t trade being a Marine for anything. Glad to hear you stuck around and made them pay “Old Man”…lol
Semper Fi Brother!
Glad it wasn’t a “section 8!” I think my wife believes that by staying, I was in need of one, or, they had just lost my paperwork! 😉 BTW, isn’t titanium some kind of “precious metal?” At least you’ll never be broke! Operation Urgent Fury was a couple years after my time in the Green Machine. At least that was one we WON! Thanks for your part!! Best wishes and always SEMPER FI….
You have to be some dumb ass yankee with A last name like yours!
Hey shithead at least I don’t lick tRump’s ass like you, wake up and see the world instead of your drug induced world.
Come on down to Texas Snd I will show you the drugs I use. It causes lead poisoning
No you licked hillary`s ass,you dildo. you need to wake up. So keep licking.
You truly are an IDIOT!
If I’m an IDIOT, you are truly a STUPID IDIOT. And by that name you’re using you are as stubborn as a Mule.
Yep, me & Harry “NUKE ‘EM ‘TIL THEY GLOW” Truman are a couple of stubborn Missourians. I’ll wear that moniker proudly! We need more HST leaders then maybe this country wouldn’t be so fucked up!
Hey Dipshit , It is not about keeping the guns out of nut cases, it is about Control of the Total American Population and getting them subservient to the “Politicians”. If you are too damn dumb to see that, then go back to your mommy’s house and live there, you don’t belong among the people.
Typical response from a dumb ass republican, I suppose you are all for all these mass murders like the republicans in congress who owned by the NRA as McConnell admitted last year with the statement I take my orders from the NRA..
McConnell never said that. And before you tell me that he did, you’ll need to come up with some kind of proof of it because it just sounds like you’re just full of shit!
If you want proof, go back to when Obama’s nomination was submitted and watch McConnell say it, in the mean time you are full of Mule shit.
then why aren’t they putting the emphasis on “that nut behind the trigger” instead of the gun ? if you take away our right to own them, it will just increase ten fold the BLACK market on them,just as prohibition and illegal drugs have done in the past. it is not the gun we need to control, it is LEFT leaning nuts, that are causing all of this.
Exactly, end of discussion
Jim Bongiovi – where is your proof that the Republicans are owned by the NRA? The Republicans and the NRA are dedicated to protecting one of our freedoms that protect us and our loved ones. Only a sick person or a terrorist would turn a gun on another human being just for the pleasure of killing. You should consider yourself lucky that NRA and registered gun owners are out protcting our freedom!
He is one of those sick ones that wants to take our guns so he and is Democrat friends can break down our doors and have their way with us and our families with out fear of being stopped or hurt.
Your stupidity shines through
Agreed!
Well the best thing I can tell Jim Bongiovi and his Democrap friends is Molon Labe buddy. If you survive.
Last year Mitch McConnell admitted it when he said he would not accept Obama’s selection to the Supreme Court unless the NRA confirmed it, in other words he and the rest of the Republicans are bought and paid for by the NRA, every time there’s a massive slaughter there response is ” a moment of silence” then business as usual, the hell with the ones suffering losses, but I guess you’re ok with that, you follow the NRA’s fear factor about the Democrats wanting to take your guns, that is FALSE, they want to get sensible gun laws in this country, restricting people on the no fly list from buying guns, the republicans no let them have their guns, the democrats want restrict mentally unbalanced from purchasing guns, the republicans say no, now tell me they are not bought. As for the republicans and NRA dedicated to protecting one of our freedoms, tell that to the thousands of families who lost loved ones to the useless slaughter, where’s their freedom?
You and the rest of the pussy democrats will be thrilled to run to the first person with a gun when the shooting starts, won’t you? Hypocrite.
I bet the Democraps was behind that Vegas shooting!
No, the Dems don’t want anyone to have guns….thus, Dems aren’t worth the air they waste.
You are definitely falling for that NRA bullshit about the democrats , of course you have a cranial rectal inversion.
No….you idiots have given me plenty of reason, I don’t need anyone else proving that point… Your king obeyme and Chicago are the neon sign in the darkness….you fools will fall for anything.
That is just a phony excuse to lead to confiscation.
You have hit the nail on the head. I am a firm believer that this “shooting” was executed by professional hitmen hired by “deep state GOVERNMENT operatives” and the man in the hotel room was DEAD long before the shooting started, and left behind to give naive people the “impression” of a “lone wolf” (collateral damage control) to push their COMMUNIST/ GLOBALIST “gun control/people control agenda”. You will find that the democommies/rinos will go to extreme lengths to push said “agenda” no matter how many lives it takes.
If they don’t get their “way”, expect more “false flag” events to follow.
You have an excellent comment also. The survival of a Nation such as ours (or any nation for that matter) depends upon the intelligence of it’s citizens. Right now, the “living dead” lurk amongst us in numbers close to “fallen nation status”. America still has more freedom loving Americans to keep these heathen in place. But we must have all or most of their support at the ballot box, or things will be nasty.
I too pray for the intelligence of the populace. Perhaps some of the gun fanatics can open their eyes and see Trump and his ilk for what they are and stop being made fools by them
Is that the best you can do is blame gun fanatics ???? Hillary lost because who she is and not guns . Remember Obama was the best gun Sales man the USA ever had , more guns were sold during his 8 years than any other time .
Our Founding Fathers were Geniuses when they wrote the “BILL OF RIGHTS”. Too many idiots blame the 2nd Amendment for the actions of lawless people who will never obey or honor our laws. They are a threat to our life. The ignorance and stupidity of the rest are inexcusable. Once the 2nd Amendment falls, if that happens, then you can bet your sweet a$$ that the other Amendments will follow.
The second amendment deals with militias period
We are the militias. The largest in the World. That is why all the Countries of this World is free. Because of the LEGENDARY BAD A$$ SECOND AMENDMENT. MOLON LABE!
Elizabeth, do us all a favor and stop blogging stupidity. If you had done your research, you would know ALL citizens are the militia per the Constitution and the discussion of it by the Founding Fathers. Hope you won’t cry or die when someone who is illegally using a gun comes to your home, and you have no way to defend yourself.
We ***are*** the militia.
What grade did you finish?
Civics 101, and Constitutional studies for you then. You (Realize) militias were any private able bodied person 18 to 60 back then, that could take up arms against the Tyranny of the English. Interpretation since then have set precedent for any law abiding citizen, male or female to “Keep And Bear Arms”. You need to look into UCLA Professor Eugene Volocks work on the 2nd Amendment, because you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Try looking in the mirror before you share your opinions.
Wow! Two myths in the same sentence, prayer and an intelligent populace. Nice work.
I believe in the prayer part, not so much the other.
Well, I wouldn’t want to talk you out of beliefs that give you comfort, but I’ve tried and can’t get my logical mind around the concept. I think that if there is a God, He created us to be self-reliant and figure things out for ourselves with the ability to reason He gave us.
I think this country and western music song. “Everyone Wants to Go to Heaven, but Nobody Wants to Go Now” is a pretty good representation of the reality.
Well I appreciate your candor in the matter. And yes we all want to go to Heaven, just not today. And we should all be self reliant. Both good songs. I also appreciate you not looking down on me for my beliefs, as I would not look down on you for yours. That’s what makes our country great, the freedom to voice our opinions without fear of retribution……. Well at least if the left doesn’t get their way. Stay safe friend.
And just exactly what IS President Trump (he won the election so get over it)?
IDIOT
Elizabeth, Trump has come as a saver of America even for the likes of you.
Your tampon obviously needs a change out…
You really think your disgusting comment was necessary…I pity the women in your life…if, there are any!
She’s quite a bit more fortunate than the woman in your pathetic life. Man up, stooge….
HA…you speak for her, too?
One of the ones blinded by liberal biases I see.
O-o-o-o-o-h, Elizabeth. Better watch out. Some of those fanatics might be right outside your door.
AMERICA FIRST
I agree with you but I also think there was more to the Vegas shooting. I also think that the shooter had been radicalize thru his connections with the deep state. That is why you will not get a true answer from the Feds.
I also believe there was more than “one shooter” and this overweight gambler wasn’t one of them. The firing was also NOT a ‘bumpfire” stocked weapon. I have lived around Fort Drum N.Y. all my life and have heard and watched SUSTAINED FULL AUTO FIRE FROM VARIOUS WEAPONS.This was done by HIRED “pros”. Check out “infowars” on the net where they are interviewing a navy seal weapons specialist. I would send the link, but I have tried with other posts before and it seems to be “blocked” by people monitoring the sites.
And having seen a video, do the lawmakers really know what they are voting on? With a bit of practice. no “device” is needed.
Amen! I agree!
I disagree Name. Paddock was a gun runner/salesman for the FBI/CIA. They were arming ISIS (again) in a sting op that went bad. Salesman killed, ISIS buyers shot up the area (5 of them) and left in big black dually pickup from Flamingo Hotel. All on police scanner!
That is interesting. I have not seen or heard that. Mind sharing where you got the info.
I can’t reveal that, but you can type “Paddock was a gun runner for the FBI” in a search engine…I’m sure you’ll find something!
Thanks. I took a quick look and lots of info and it does not look good for the FBI or the Sheriff’s office. There is so much to go thru before I am able to feel sure about what happened and who was behind it..
Welcome to my world. Once I saw this, it was pretty obvious the MSM lies were WAY off base: http://www.ReportingLive.net
The FBI is working Hard to Suppress this info. I too saw videos of several shooters, and some were not on the floor that Paddock was on, they were much lower.
You won’t hear from them, they were in it to their incompetent necks. Many of the weapons in the shooter’s (sucker’s) room were imported via fast n furious. It was a failed sting. Odd, we aren’t getting ANY info from that massacre. 0bama deep state is involved.
Ahh ha, shades of Lee Harvey Oswald….
Exactly.. nothing new here.
And to make it worse they used a white man!
That’s right! They never would have “used” a black man or a mooslime. It wouldn’t fit with their corrupt GLOBALIST “new world order” “one world government” COMMUNIST “agenda” they are trying to PUSH down the American People’s throats.
They used him as the patsy. He was the fall guy in this false flag event
Very true. Fact of the matter is that governments, as a rule, have NO interest in keeping “us peasants” safe; their only interest is staying in power and maintaining the illusion of “keeping us safe.” That is why, when one gun law is passed that fails to achieve the alleged purpose, the lawmaker and cronies, will say, “Well, that law isn’t working so we need a stricter one.” The real goal is total prohibition and confiscation and the same old clique will lie and cheat to accomplish it. I have heard the old fable about the Arab and his camel and that is the method of the anti-gun lawmakers. On the national level, Not-So-Feinstein admitted that no law would have stopped the LV shooting but then she introduced a bill that is a nightmare. She has never backed away from her statement that if she could have gotten the votes she would have introduced a total confiscation bill — “Mr. & Mrs. America, turn them all in” — and she appears to be trying it again, little by little. And “false flag” methods seem to be the chosen method.
They can try all the want but us legal American gun owners won’t give up our fire arms with out another civil war or until we’re dead. I for one will never surrender mine. They can have them when they pry them from my cold dead hands. I served in the military and know how to fight for my rights and always will just like my oath has no expiration.
same here.
our OATHS ARE FOR LIFE, NO EXPIRATION DATE.
Right on brother.
Same Here.
When the Civil War starts, those of us who never served will depending you who did to lead.
And we will rise to that as our oath has no expiration.
Same here.
That’s great brother thank you.
I’ll back your six brother.
Got yours too brother.
Another Reason we need the RECALL power in every state. Call them back and Replace them !
speaking of false flags I always think of them when you hear republicans say democrats want to take your guns away when I have yet to hear a democrat espouse that. It quickly follows that it is a slippery slope from stricter background checks to total confiscation. Reminds of Reagan saying social security or medicare would lead lockstep to a total socialist state. LOL
Actually, a lot of Democrats have backed off on that, including the chucky-doll Schumer. He is quite oragmatic, preferring to get elected first and then hitting us with the ultimate machete.
Schumer, Feinstein, Warren , Pelosi, Sanders, Murphy, Stabenow, Biden, Clinton, and your Der Further Obama. Lynch, Holder, Waters, etc. etc. etc. Ad Nauseum. Need more, got them.
I believe you are 100% correct. Why would anyone haul up to his room 21 rifles. He couldn’t possibly use them all in that shooting at most he would only need 2 one at each blown out window. I could see 1000’s of rounds in clips but 21 rifles doesn’t make any sense unless there were more than one person firing. Yet the MSM expects us to believe this narrative, and that he was a lone wolf, BS big time I don’t buy it.
Hel*, even a Seal Team leader that was interviewed, with just the info that was out at the time called b.s. on the single shooter theory.
pappy, and now France is experiencing muslims killing their citizens almost every day now, so all muslims must be removed from our soil along with DACA and every other illegal, and we must reclaim our Country NOW! Throw out the current FBI and CIA employees, arrest Soros and his family, the 3 Clintons, McCain, and several others working against us daily now because they think they are winning the takeover of America. I say, NO WAY, JOSE!
It sure got quieted fast, no? I saw this at another site…
This was written by a guy on 4chan claiming to work for Las Vegas Metro Police who also claimed that they’d be dropping “bread crumbs” during the latest press conference so journalists and the public could put some pieces together. After watching the presser, it seems like this guy may be telling the truth.
“The LVMPD knows the motive behind the attack, but the FBI will not allow us to release the motive because it implicates the FBI in illegal arms deals and supplying arms to ISIS terrorists within U.S. borders.
Stephen Paddock was an undercover FBI agent who participated in multiple illegal arms deals in the Las Vegas area in a gun running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious. Paddock thought he was engaging in another routine arms transfer, but ISIS had learned about the entrapment scheme and Paddock’s true identity. They killed him and carried out the massacre, and then fled the scene.
Everything is being kept under extreme wraps because 1) armed ISIS terrorists are still at large and 2) this is very embarrassing to the FBI and they don’t want their scheme to become public knowledge.
I will be posting further information throughout the day, people within LVMP are disgusted and are pushing for this information to be released to the public.”
After the black ops action at Sandy Hook, anything is possible. We will never find out the truth until our government decides to trust us with the truth!
You will NEVER find out the “truth”, because just like “fast and furious”, Sandy hoax, and many others, these GOVERNMENT “false flag operations” to attempt to convince “WE THE PEOPLE ” we need to to disarm “for our own good and safety” (for easy CONTROL) will never stop, until the “deep state operators” are brought to justice. THAT of course will NEVER happen.
You are exactly right!!
Pappy.
in the end you will have a lot pf people turning in their firearms for one reason or another.
those OF US WHO BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTION WILL NEVER DO SO.
NOT EVER.
James,
I am ONE of those that WILL NOT “turn in” MY firearms. (even though our CORRUPT CROOKED “governor” of N.Y. would like to see it happen). I keep a 12 gauge loaded with 00 buck right by my bed and a .45 ACP loaded up with 230 Grain XTP hollow points over my head on the bed. If anyone “tries” anything, they MAY get ME, but I WILL take a few to HELL with me.
pappy.
to bad your state and california and others have Governors who are so ANTI AMERICAN AND FREEDOM.
our new Governor signed the Constitutional carry law that took effect back in August this year.
we can still get a CCW if we travel out of state, but here in North Dakota just about everyone owns a firearm or a family member does.
I’m a life member of the NRA and were pretty big in supporting the firearm industry and shooting sports out here.
and speaking for myself and a LOT of people i know, NO ONE IS TURNING IN ANYTHING TO ANYONE EVER, if those MORONS TRY TO DISARM WE THE PEOPLE.
James,
I TOO, am a life member of the NRA and even though crooked cuomo doesn’t like it, I am a carry concealed permit holder. I HAD to go through cuomo’s “henchmen” (the State police) site to re-register my handguns, (but had no problem). The “unsafe act” is another unconstitutional voted for in the “middle of the night” sneaked though “law” that MAKES us do these things or LOSE our permits.
your know that registration leads to CONFISCATION IN THE END.
and this so called NICS CHECK IS BS and if anyone thinks they destroy the records after a purchase then they are SNOOKERED INTO BELIEVING IN LA LA LAND.
i made up my mind over this years ago, when THEY TRY AND TAKE THEM WILL BE THE DAY WE ALL MEET JESUS, THAT’S THE ONLY WAY I WILL DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE.
that’s NOT BRAG, UST FACT.
“Don’t fear guns, Fear a government that fears your guns”!!!
No way a retired accountant with no military background and no known weapons training pulled this off. I agree that Paddock was the sacrificial lamb and there was more than one shooter. Anyone with any common sense and a little understanding of ballistics could easily prove this was a sham.
Great video of approximately 29 minutes easily proves multiple shooters.
https://youtu.be/JxmEFeKy8aI
He is 100% right in his analysis. But needs to also compensate MOA with distances. There was definitely more that one shooter, because as we who were in the military will say “Recon by fire”. Meaning strafing rounds into a densely packed area, hoping to get as many hits as possible in a condensed time period. No way one shooter could do that. And b.s. with that bump stock rhetoric, at that distance with the time frame that was figured, one shooter couldn’t have inflicted that much of a casualty rate.
Semper Fidelis 1983-2004
Thanks for your service brother.
First off I was to Thank You for your service! Although I wasn’t military, I did spend 37 years as a firefighter just recently retired. I know, not the same however, uniformed service. I do have quite a bit of firearms training more of a hobby I would say. I should be on track this year in the neighborhood of 35-40K rounds down range. When The first videos started coming out, I immediateky thought multiple shooters at least 2. I don’t know what the end game is here but the whole true story is not out yet. And then some of the scene photos that were released…again I thought BULLSHIT, staged! It will be interesting to see how this one spins!
Again, THANK YOU MARINE!
MAGA TRUMP 2020🇺🇸
Thank You for your public service. Being a fireman is a thankless job, and a dangerous one at that. It takes a selfless person to do it for that many years. Good luck with your shooting, you’re doing it right by the sounds of it. Semper Fi to you and take care.
The same mindset exists with people who believe an aluminum plane could turn a reinforced steel and concrete building into DUST. A scientific impossibly yet these deniers persist. Thus govt will doing anything to advance it new world order agenda.
WTF are you talking about?
My statment is GUNS DONT KILL
Stupid people kill!!
Cars don’t kill stupid people driving them kill!!!
The over 20,000 gun laws in which many are Unconstitutional written by the liberal democrats have done nothing to prevent people from killing each other. Especially the “living dead” that do no care or obey any laws. Many people that defend their life against perpetrators (in case you are wondering WTF that is, are heathens out to kill you) are not stupid when they use the gun to defend their life. You would kill someone if they were trying to kill you or your wife or you children. I would hope so. If not the “WtF” you would be “STUPID”. When our BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN kill the Germans and Japanese, they were not stupid either. Cars do somethings kill people when they malfunction. You should go to another page if you want to act like a liberal. No place for liberals here.
Look ass hole I am on your side! I am born and raised and still in TEXAS!!
I have guns I go shoot guns I hunt with guns I eat what I shoot with my guns!what part of this don’t you understand??
This is my gun safe! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9d3c2b060371c2a609a8f00fd166a1a92bf77db52de8b3e705910a936497f3a2.jpg
Ok ass hole, you can join the family.
Got one herein Texas!its call the American Marksman 🇨🇱https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1ec7420edfb33fe77afb4085fbf89e0bb86a5e74af65df159cedc2c6680e6813.jpg
Looking good. Love the fluted barrel. How far U shooting?
Here is A 10 shot group at 1000 yards https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b5ade775a3c4c459bef048a133bb4147c60a43461cad647623bc8d8037fab45d.png
Please forget that I had any negative comment with you.
Mighty fine shooting a 3,000 feet. Over a half mile. 360 pass a half mile. Damn.
Did I send the 10 shot group at 1000 yards? Sub moa group.
If you know how much an moa is at 1000 yards. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b5ade775a3c4c459bef048a133bb4147c60a43461cad647623bc8d8037fab45d.png
Here is another 1000+ yard gun we have. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6e6f20d12e4b6ad1e1fe01b41ee88f2a3de1f0000b9a52e964b0cff9a1cf3f89.jpg
Very impressive. What caliber is that?
Nice……… BDC with CDS dials. I have a Huskemaw 50mm on my 6.5 Creedmore. Still trying at 1,000 yard mark. At about 800 now. Going to max out my Berger bullets, and keep tweaking the powder till I’m there
No BDC/ CDS. Just A Nightforce scope mounted on A 20 MOA rail!
Caliber is 6 XC.
Your 6.5 Creadmore will do1000 easy. I would hand load with 140gr. Berger VLD Target Bullets.
You still have a very nice set up all the same. Was looking into 140gr. Bergers, thanks for the tip……… Semper Fi.
Keep me posted on how you are progressing. Several who shoot st the range here shoot the 6.5 & have quite A few shoot the 6.5×284.
I think I’m in Love…with your gun safe! 🔫👈💗
Sorry, I have 3 boys
Nice! Teach the new generations how to protect themselves and their principles going into the future. That makes me think there might be a future in this country. 👌
Looks to be a “supplemental armory” for the next insurrection.
You are scaring all those liberal snowflakes with that picture… and I like it!!
Good
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We’re all on each others side.
all gun laws are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
what does DO NOT INFRINGE DON’T THOSE SCUMBAGS GET?
The answer to your question is,,,,,like our “FREEDOM” that we enjoy. “FREEDOM” is not free or safe if we don’t continue to fight for it. There are those with their brain dead followers that care nothing for you, me, or These United States of America.
i agree.
and we’re going to have to fight for it in the not too distant future i feel.
things are lining up for it.
1. Soap box
2. ballot box
3. Jury box
4. bullit box
the last two boxs i still BELIEVE IN.
the first two DON’T really work that well any more.
now those COMMUNIST DEMORATS because they didn’t get their PET BITCH ELECTED, ARE TRYING TO DO AWAY WITH THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.
so i feel TIMES ARE GOING TO BECOME REAL TOXIC IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
UROK! You are up late? Aren’t you?
Me thinks you guys are having a “food fight” when you actually agree with each other?? Sometimes replies to some comment tend to stray from the previous intent/comment and describe another intent. Most comments in this thread are speaking to the choir, only a few Nirvana liberals, a.k.a. sheep, are contributing.
I have been trying to get that through his thick skull!!
My Wife says I am hard headed.
That’s alright, mine says I am an Ass Hole😂
At least she still LOVES you. We got that going for us.
I hope, after dating 3 years in high school & being married for 42 years she may just be putting up with me🤔🤠🇺🇸🇨🇱
You sound like me. Dated 2 years and been married 45 plus. She is the most unforgettable person I have ever know. Small World, isn’t it.
Me thinks, though I have slept some since the last, I have been the recipient of that retort! 😉
Along with other real nice names!!
Thanks Firewagon. I am glad he is on our side, with all those guns. That is pretty brave of him to put that picture up. I guess I will let him be my friend. I might even send him a bottle of Scotch to calm him down.
Exactly!
Y’all ganging up on me?
Democrats shoot people…..
You and I know that, but when those in control of there Party going to figure that out?
Oh wait maybe they already do!!
How do you break up a strong mans house, first bind the strong man (take away his guns). They want to take away your means to defend yourself so they can literally own you, lock stock and barrel.
Don’t Matter. it is All in the Agenda. Slavery for everyone. And war on Slavery did not end with the Civil War it Expanded it
A must read on your right to keep and Bear Arms: Three Lessons of the founders.
https://therevolutionaryact.com/three-lessons-bear-arms/
Agreed!
why they cannot have our guns, they will be sitting us up for complete control and they are almost there. we have been ignorant for 50 yrs not realizing what they were up to nut we are getting smart and they cannot stand that they think only they know what is best for us that we cannot take care of ourselves. they all must be voted out they have done everything except get our guns.
Beware the Useful Idiots
submitted by Garret Geer
Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on his writings and Obama writes about him in his books.
Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today.
Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA
Education: University of Chicago
Spouse: Irene Alinsky
Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals
Anyone out there think that this stuff isn’t happening today in the U.S.?
All eight rules are currently in play.
How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:
There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.
1) Healthcare – Control healthcare and you control the people.
2) Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible; poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control– Remove the ability to defend themselves from the government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the government and schools.
8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent, and it will be easier to take (tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States?
Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin’s original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as “Useful Idiots.”
The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.
“It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.”
Saul Alinsky was a follower of COMMUNISM, and all the DEMORATS ARE ALSO OUR DEADLY ENEMIES AND COMMUNIST AND A FEW RINOS.
when, not if they come for our firearms will be the DAY WE START TAKING OUR REPUBLIC BACK FROM ALL THOSE TRAITORS.
Yes, we all know about Saul Alinsky and 10 Rules for Radicals. Hillary Clinton was a close follower of his while she was still in college and wrote her thesis on him also. Alinsky begged her to come to work for him but she declined, she had bigger plans. Bill Clinton was a moderate democrat, it was Hillary that was the radical Alynskyite. Obama is a Marxist and followed the teachings of Karl Marx & Engles closely, with a little Alinsky thrown in for good measure.
The whole democratic party has turned into communists and you needn’t look any farther than who they just voted as Chairman of the DNC. Tom Perez is one of the most radical communists ever. You need only watch him on YouTube to get it. Vice Chairman Keith Ellison isn’t quite as radical as Perez, but close. Ellison is a devout socialist but not in a nice way like, say, Bernie Sanders.
You need only to look at the organizations they both have created and deal with to know their intent. Perez was hand-picked to lead the DNC by none other than Barack Obama himself. They want all the moderate democrats (i.e. Pelosi, Waters, Shumer, Feinstein) out of the DNC because they aren’t radical enough for them also.
Right on brother.
Kudos Neighbor, I feel the same. Whenever they use the term “We The People” it only includes them and those that think the way they do!
The only good Demonrat is a dead Demonrat.
i agree.
and also a LOT OF RINOS AS WELL.
James, you are 100% right
thanks.
just going by PAST EXPERIENCES, and it seems to me WE KEEP DOING THE SAME THING EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT, NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
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Why trust these jerks. I agree they are communist. Drain the damn swamp before the alligators get us.
lol. Forgot about the alligators. Look at Waters and Pelosi’s mouths. True alligators! 🙂
Boy do I agree.
The swamp has been drained, just look at the White House and the cabinet, that’s where the swamp is, that idiot in the White House all through his campaign said Mexico will pay for the wall, I don’t remember the
United States becoming Mexico.
Jim you need to pull your head out of your Ass,,Donald J Trump is the greatest thing to happen to our Country in the last 60 years..Fucking Snowflake…
You have your head up tRump’s ass, he is the worst president ever, he is ruining this country, his twitter is getting us into two wars with two countries, that’s great all right…. yeah right, get off those drugs and see this country before he destroys it.
Put some teeth in the “Recall procedures” and do not hesitate to remove and replace ANY and ALL elected officials who fail to meet their obligations, carry out their duty to their constituents, disrupt thru non-professional/none standard floor procedures (such as set ins, knowingly false statements, lies, wasting of government time and assets), misuse and theft of government funds and are caught in ANY crime against the people, or the nation.
The greatest fear ANY ELECTED PERSON should have should be of the voters; why do we allow corrupt, inept and dishonest politicians to remain in office? Remove them immediately when they are caught in any level of crime or fail to carry out their promise that got them elected. They are their to represent their constituents, not special interest concerns OR PARTY LEADERS! Look at the national damage done by Harry Reid, Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan and Pelosi over the past years.
Rasmussen?
Really?
Could’ve saved the money with an online poll. It would’ve been just as accurate.
Rasmussen was the ONLY poll that CORRECTLY predicted the Trump win days prior to the election. I certainly believe their polling results over MSM/DNC propaganda.
“That these modifications are legal was news to most Americans who know little about guns, and since an accessory like this cannot really fall under the protection of the Second Amendment,”
The 2nd amendment says, “shal not be infringed”. Doesn’t have a damn thing about “unless”. Even the restrictions on full auto weapons is, in reality, unconstitutional.
A citizen can own a fully automatic weapon but needs to get a special license to do it.
So? This makes it constitutional? The government permits it? HA !
The government will make rules and laws on about anything if it puts more money in the governments pocket. How much does your state charge to get a permit to have the body of a parent, child or other friend cremated or buried? What is it in the states duties that requires such outrageous costs to serve the final step of anyone’s life?
We should not need permits to exercise our Constitution. That in itself is Unconstitutional.
True!
OH NOOOOO. Don’t you watch and listen to ALL the news outlets, ( MSM “and” most right wing outlets)? Most spew the BS tripe that full autos have been OUTLAWED since 1934-36.This includes Hannity ‘and’ Limbaugh. Want the real skinny? There’s only one place: “Cam & Co.” on NRANews.com
INFRINGEMENT.
Another illegal gun law.
Anything that requires a permit means that it can be revoked.
There is no exception in the 2nd amendment.
You are absolutely right. If they can ban one thing, then eventually they can ban all things.
That’s the game plan.
Just as if the presidents are allowed to ignore or twist laws to fit their own agenda they will; such as the Obama administrations illegal acts (introduced, directed and managed by Janet Napolitano) as they ignored federal laws and allowed the greatest invasion of illegal immigrants into this nation in our entire history. It will take this nation fifty years to recover from the Effects of Obama’s failures to protect this nation.
We may never recover from the destruction this vermin caused.
FAST & FURIOUS is another example of the criminal destruction to undermine the CONSTITUTION of the United States. The book details the HORRO of what obama and holder did to the United States.
As long there are people like George Soros and this Democrat Party are operating in this Country it will never be Great again these people are EVIL TO THE BONE PERIOD N!!!
They are distant relatives from the garden. And I am not talking about Adam and Eve’s side.
I’ve tried to explain to people what Obama & Holder did with Fast & Furious and they think I’m delusional! They cannot allow themselves to believe their great savior, Obama, could have orchestrated something so insidious & evil.
What is more frightening about their diabolical plan to destroy the 2nd Amendment, was, many in Congress knew this, and closed their eyes. Now that is frightening. The good thing out of all of this criminal activity is that more people bought more guns than ever in the history of These United States of America.
By the by, the Second Amendment does not give anyone the right to own guns. That “inalienable right” is direct from GOD!!! What man giveth, man can take away! Per the Constitution!
The Constitution and the Amendments do ***not*** grant rights (then they would be privileges that could be revoked at will); they are emphasizing that these rights are pre-existing and given to us by a higher power than any government: our Creator.
JAMES JUST SAID EVERYTHING I WANTED TO SAY. CAN’T IMPROVE ON IT.
If the public doesn’t trust Democrats on this issue, it’s because they keep failing to get anything meaningful or permanent done. When politicians fail to accomplish what they promise to do, then the public rightfully begins not to trust them, although it needs to be recognized that the money being spent against their side is extraordinary.
All the democrats have done is pass over 20,000 guns laws. Most of them illegal.
and none are effective in reducing crime
Hardly any lately, at least at the federal level. Gun laws passed locally or statewide are almost meaningless, because they can easily be brought across state lines.
Since 1998 57% increase in purchase of guns by Americans. During that same period of time, a 56% decrease in crimes by guns.
Obamarx was the greatest firearms salesman in American history. Leftists must hang.
They have declared War on the American People. But many do not realize that.
Hmmm…
Since when are the bump stocks not considered protected by the 2nd Amendment? Anything that denies a persons choice of a firearm or an accessory is an infringement!!!
You like throwing the 2nd Amendment around, the 2nd Amendment names one and only one gun, a Musket, they had pistols during that time and that was not mentioned, so if you want to go by the 2nd Amendment ALL guns except Muskets are banned.
Give the communist democraps an inch and they will want a mile.
They can’t seem to understand that it was the evil person and not a gun, or bumpstock, The high wall or too many people at the concert. IT WAS THE MONSTER HUMAN PIECE OF GARBAGE that did what he did.
They seem to forget about the fact that this guy had the makings of up to three or four huge bombs in his car and if he used them, Every single person there would be dead right now.
The communist Liberals are so stupid they can’t imagine how America will be if we ever lose the 2nd. amendment..
About 70% of all gun deaths are suicides, over 30% are by drug deals gone bad so that leaves about 20% for accidents, Police shootings, Murder and things like this.
It ain’t the gun, It is the person and there is “NO” possible way to stop them until they do the evil deed
Bravo! And we all need to remember the old fable about the camel with the cold nose a k a The Arab and His Came.. First the camel wanted to put his nose in the tent to keep it warm, then his head, then his shoulder, then one leg and at dawn the camel had the tent all to himself. The anti’s insist that what they propose is “just a little bit to make us all safer” but they are lying thru their pearly whites. Don’t let the anti’s take us for fools!
Anyone remember this………
“Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., shootings, said: “The British are not coming. … We don’t need all these guns to kill people.” Lewis’ vision, shared by many, represents a gross ignorance of why the framers of the Constitution gave us the Second Amendment. How about a few quotes from the period and you decide whether our Founding Fathers harbored a fear of foreign tyrants.”
Alexander Hamilton: “The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed,” adding later, “If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government.” By the way, Hamilton is referring to what institution when he says “the representatives of the people”?
James Madison: “(The Constitution preserves) the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation … (where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.”
Thomas Jefferson: “What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.”
George Mason, author of the Virginia Bill of Rights, which inspired our Constitution’s Bill of Rights, said, “To disarm the people — that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”
Democrats and like-minded people might dismiss these thoughts by saying the founders were racist anyway. Here’s a more recent quote from a card-carrying liberal, the late Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey: “Certainly, one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms. … The right of the citizen to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America but which historically has proven to be always possible.”
How about a couple of quotations with which Rep. Lewis and others might agree? “Armas para que?” (translated: “Guns, for what?”) by Fidel Castro. There’s a more famous one: “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing.” That was Adolf Hitler.
john lewis is a danger to himself and to society.
Absolutely he is. He is not alone. The entire democrat party and all of its serfs are dangers to society. They are either terribly mentally ill OR they are terribly evil to the nth degree.
Idiots voted in by idiots.
If that was a question my answer is “BOTH”!
Both.
Assuming John Lewis can read and comprehend WHAT he is reading, he should try reading the US Constitution. He and the rest of the totally psychopathic democrat party will never stop their master plan of overthrowing our constitutional government, and will certainly never allow a piece of paper such as the US Constitution to get in their way. If they could get away with it, they’d burn it tonight. They MUST discredit the Constitution, outlaw Christianity, and destroy the ballot box……THEN they will have complete control over all of us, assuming we allow them to rule over us.
Which is why every last one of them needs to be arrested for sedition and treason
Exactly why I posted it!
“Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., shootings,
said: “The British are not coming. … We don’t need all these guns to
kill people.”
The US Government under the Deep State is coming, MORON, and you’re part of it whether you know it or not. YOU are an Enemy Domestic. Just ANOTHER dumbass nigger.
Your a bigger moron than your picture shows!!!
Excellent and effective post sir! Thank you for reminding us of how and why our founding fathers deemed it necessary for this nation’s citizens to remain armed.
Thanks, just keep the message going!
Only DEMONCRATS have such a blind ignorant view of guns. Hey, under Oblunder they gave guns to the Mexican cartel through “fast and furious”, so these idiots must be removed from office in the next election, and replaced with someone who has common sense concerning the 2nd amendment.
I hope that a Democrat is never elected into office again!! What we need are mainly Constitutional Conservatives. NO RINOS!
King George took away gun rights from the colonists in America because he feared our citizens. We are still fighting the same fight today. The right to protect ourselves from tyranny is God given not government given. We were the first country ever saying specific rights are God given and written down in our Constitution. The experiment of America was the first of it’s kind in history which makes our country so unique. It wasn’t ruled by a dictatorial government but by the people it governed. Now the ruling elite don’t like the fact that they don’t have the same control over America as the rest of the world. They want to force their rule on us by “fundamentally changing America”. That is why it is so important for them to get rid of our Constitution that includes our 2nd Amendment rights. And that is why it is so important for us to listen to the words of people like Alexander Hamilton, James Mason, Thomas Jefferson, and George Mason and protect our Constitution at all costs.
I try to pass this on every time they try to go after the 2nd. I don’t own a gun, but I will fight for the right for everyone to be able to own one.
Gun Free Zone = Target rich environment.
I hope any that republicans know that if they vote for banning anything with guns, that most of America will not vote for them in the upcoming 2018 election. Period.
What if “they” gave a vote and no one showed up!
What if half of individuals who pay income taxes stop paying taxes? The whole stinking cesspool of fedgov would shut down.
That is what happened during the 8 years of obama.
Amen! They will be removed and replaced. I’m ready to move against Lindsay Graham over DACA. I’m watching him closely, because he’s in my state! Y’all get each traitor in your state! We can clean out the swamp scum, while President Trump continues to drain it! We already see the nasty DEMONCRATS that need replacing, so let’s vote in force as true Republicans. We are taking back America by force! Our vote counts.
UROK Ernest. Oh the horror of the turn coat republicans that we have in office. In reality, they are worse than the democrats. Betrayal is a nasty thing and the American People seem to be waking up to that fact. I hope you and your fellow Americans can replace lindsay. He is part of the establishment that don’t really care for the American People. I would like to see john lewis the cuckoo replaced in our State. Hoping for the best. President TRUMP had the dream life, but he gave it all up to serve the American People, and I will support him to the very end.
Note: Although john is a democrat, he is one of the worse ones in office.
It is true that if you do not have the means (power) to do what you want to do, you can not do it. There is a lesson here and the left needs to take it to heart. You want the power to prevent others from denying you the power to prevent them from denying you the power……I think this is dictatorship, one-sided, unpreventable once the power has been ceded to the dictator who wants the power. This is the history of dictatorship. We are ARMED to prevent it. You can not pick and choose which laws you want to obey or which you are willing to enforce. Your freedom of choice is denied to you to be able to do so. If you can content yourselves with the attrition from abortion at a rate of 1.3 million per year, the murder of 58 should be a “walk in the park.” As with terrorists of the present era, preventing the surprise attack has proven to have failed. You are willing to take risks with people, immigrants, refugees, illegal aliens, the mitigating factors of whose lives should be a cause of concern. Changing America or the values of Americans requires educating, with a high degree of consistency and discipline, to inform consciences equally and form behaviors which reflect the values of them.
THE ONLY THING THESE SWAMP CREATURES UNDETSTAND IS HOW TO ROB THE PEOPLES TREASURY!!!! THATS WHY THEY TRY TO DIVERT ATTENTION TO GUN CONTROL AND NOT TO THE MORE IMPORTANT BUSINESS OF PROTECT AND SERVE THE CITIZEN GOVERNMENT OF THIS NATION AND WORK WITH DONALD J TRUMP POTUS!! THESE PEOPLE ARE IN VIOLATIONS OF ARTICLE3 SECTION 3 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THESE UNITED STATES AND SO ARE THOSE SANCTUARY CITIES AND STATES!!!! THE CITIZENS OF THIS NATION COME FIRST AND FORMOST!!!!
BUMP STOCKS ARE STILL SEMI AUTO!! THESE PEOPLE DON’T. KNOW BEAN SOUP FROM APPLE BUTTER ABOUT GUNS THIS ALL AN ATTEMPT TO DISARM THE CITIZEN GOVERNMENT OF THIS NATION! ALL ANTI GUN PEOPLE ARE COMMITTING TREASON AGAINST THE CITIZEN GOVERNMENT OF THIS NATION!!!! OUR FORFATHERS SET UP THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO PROTECT THE CITIZEN GOVERNMENT OF THIS NATION. AGAINST. ENEMIES FOREIGN. AND DOMESTIC AND IS NOT TO BE INFRINGED!!!!
Right arm but stop shouting. We’re right here.
As someone once said “I’m not mad at you because you lied to me. I’m mad at you because I can never believe anything you say ever again”. Unless, of course, you are a fool.
Lincoln said: “You fooled me once, shame on you. You fooled me twice, shame on me.”
Perfect–and absolutely spot on.
WHAT PART OF SHALL NOT INFRINGE DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND.
All these politicians do is slink around the D.C. Swamp and try to find ways to feather their own beds. They don’t give two hoots about the people they’re supposed to serve. The democrats have always been a bunch of dirt bags and, increasingly, our RINOs are playing the same game. I have a RIGHT to own a fire arm. So, I own two and never once have I been called by a member of law enforcement telling me that my gun was seen committing a crime down on Main Street. No, the people commit crimes and guns are just the tool to carry out the fools errand. So, go after the crooks, the thugs, the repeat offenders and if they used a gun to commit a crime, put their sorry asses behind bars for 10 years at hard labor. No parole. I’m a law abiding citizen. So leave me the hell alone and I will protect my wife, family and property as is my God given right.
I personally don’t trust any of them but Clinton opened the door for the worst kind of politician and ever since the Democrats have run with it. So now we are left with a choice of which party will screw us the least and there is no longer a lesser of the two evils. And there is a reason why they want to take our guns history is full of stories of what happens soon after they do.
Dems have been scumbags since day one. It’s become “acceptable” since the Frankfurt School indoctrinated “teachers” started infiltrating all strata of education and everything else. Research Antonio Gramsci and Gramscian Communism, too.
In the days of Truman, they had some integrity. Modern democrats have none!
The same research reported that 8 of 10 respondents would rather get shot in the head by a stray bullet than get shot in a flesh wound by an aimed bullet.
Comment does not appear too intelligent!
I WOULD NOT TRUST ANY DEMOCRAT POLITICIAN,AS THEY ARE ALL LIARS!
Dead on James
Gun control is a sick, anti-American sentiment. As a former US Army Colonel I know how vital it is for rural America to have firearms. The liberal city Democrats have made a serious strategic mistake in pushing gun control as it plays into criminal and terrorist hands. Most counties in the USA voted for Trump. Only the innermost cities voted for Clinton. When I was in government I heard more horror stories about Hillary Clinton than any other person in the country! And she was run for President? Obama actually was thinking he could still control through her. She would have run her own show quickly when she was in power! But the demand for gun control is a simple formula……politicians prefer unarmed peasants! Meanwhile Chuck Schumer, Andrew Cuomo, HRC, Obama are surrounded by assault rifle armed protection! Meanwhile you and I, and our families have NO protection. Our founding fathers had far more futur vision than our liberal media, or our liberal government, our schools are a mockery for the world to laugh at, and all of this leads towards a Orwellian Future!
We all know the democrats want total confiscation but they will never admit it. The democrats want complete control of it citizen because they are scared of us and that is why they keep chipping away at us with all their stupid gun laws that will never stop crimes. They always use Australia’s Gun ban of 1996 saying that their gun confiscation worked but that is another one of their lies. I have a letter from a senator in Australia that says America don’t let your government take your guns. He went on to say since their gun ban crime went up 60% because the criminals still had their guns and they know now that the Australian people can no longer protect themselves, their property or love ones. So having control of congress it is the hope of the majority of Americans that you reject any new gun laws, I believe that congress should pass a bill that would stop all attacks on the Second Amendment by anyone.
The NRA is made up of law abiding citizens to protect our second Amendment rights. There has never been a NRA member that ever committed a crime with a gun.
it says a well regulated malita which in those days ment a charlyvill at a brown bess (the assault rifles of their day) could be kept by anybody that wanted to this should apply to automatic weapons also mabey the crazeys wont be so brazen if they think they might face real force from anywere (that is why they target schools so often because they don’t expect any push back just throwing books will cause them to commit sucide sometimes)
The Dems are trying to remove all guns by getting one small concession at the time. If we give in one single time, we will wake up one day and find that we are at the bottom of the slippery slope. A disarmed citizenry and a tyrannical government are best friends.
In todays word you can’t trust anyone but God. They’re getting very close to pulling the trigger on a
very powerful weapon.
Isn’t that what the Left does best — babble politics? They ARE NOT “DOERS” but chatters. They would talk you to death on a mute point that had no bearing to anything else. In other words, they are frustrated losers who NO one listens to — until someone like Soros steps in the picture with his Anti-American chaos organizations like BLM or ANTIFA – both created and funded by that monster.
Get rid of Soros and you stop those organizations because of no funding!! Once soros is gone, the dems have no one to back their insane ideas, so they dwindle as their impact falls away. It’s a win win situation for our Country.
Start a campaign against the Soros family by creating petitions, get signatures, thousands of American signatures, then send it to the White House. President Trump listens to his supporters. He will do something abt soros and make our country strong again!
IT’S THE BEGINNING OF A WHOLE NEW AMERICA FULL OF CONSCIENTIOUS PEOPLE WHO LOVE OUR COUNTRY – NOT FULL OF ENEMIES INSIDE WHO WANT TO DESTROY AMERICA. If we want FREEDOM, we must be ready to fight for it or do what is necessary to preserve it! Are you in?
These Stupid Democrat Liberal Progressives and the Stupid Holyweed bunch in California, these bunch of Constitutional assassins will always have a gun toting guard to protect them and their families even if they get their way with doing away with the 2nd Amendment! That’s why they are so loud mouth and all mighty about screwing the gun owner and fight for the illegals to stay here that cause more trouble! Think about this, every time you see a white boy with a bun wearing his little long sleeved paisley girly shirt and wearing skinny pants! It makes me want to throw up!
Not to mention the LGBTQWTFBBQHUH crowd. and blm. And antifart. And ALL the other leftist SCUM.
Why not just call them all what they are: homosexuals!
The anti gun PROFESSIONAL political “hores would probably have lined up with the Brits instead of the Concord Farmers in 1774 and be Kneeling in front of Queen Obama…
As we all know esp on this site the 2nd Amendment is not about hunting…it is about protecting ourselves from tyrannical one world government commie/marxist thugs just such as these…..and I will NEVER bow to them.
Democrats,progressives and other vermin (RINOS) are the enemy. they wish to limit in end all choices, freedoms and rights and the leftist courts are continually making modifications to existing laws and creating new ones by approval of congressional policies to fit the ANTI-AMERICAN CITIZEN AGENDAS for which they are infamous. Progressives and democrats are far more loyal to the notion of a dictatorial Agenda 21 driven U.N. hegemony than they are to our Constitution and Rule of Law! . Period! Remember that when next YOU go to the polls and vote your moral consciences and if not for your sake, then the sake of your progeny who WILL be enslaved and have been so indoctrinated as good little automatons they will not even REALIZE it as adults, because they have it drilled into them in our idiotic , dumbed down public school systems. Massive removal from office for corruption and forced term limits are the only thing short of rebellion that will change the bloated buffoons in establishment Washington: THE PROOF IS IN THE PITIFUL PERFORMANCE RECORD IF YOU ARE NOT DELIBERATELY BLIND TO IT, AS ONES WHO FEAR TO SEE , SPEAK OR HEAR ANY EVIL ABOUT OUR LESS THAN HONEST GOVERNMENT. I CALL IT BEING A VICTIM OF THE THREE MONKEY SYNDROME WHEN THE ELECTORATE ACTS SO! They all need to be held responsible and accountable for the things they do, as they have not been held either in decades!
Do you want to know who I do not trust…………………
Gun toting imbeciles who have a fatalistic need to over-compensate for small genital with excessive needless weaponry like Stephen Paddock…………..and all the others (and there are many) like him……..
Otherwise known as armed Democrats.
Naw……I am pretty sure Stephen was a RepubliCON – much like you appear to be……………..
Republicans suck. Democrats SUCK. Leftists must HANG. LOSER.
Schuman, & Hillary, the minds & faces of evil!!!!
america has survived and became great because americans can own guns as desired.as a ww11 navy vet. i dont see the demo.traitors hollywood freaks etc changing it ever
The minute you give up gun right. Is the day we go from having a President to having a dictatorship! Why do you think every time we have a Democrat as President for 2 terms they start talking about a third term? That’s because if we didn’t have our guns to fight back, the Democrats would push for their President to stay in office and take control of the American people, just like the people in China, but because our founding fathers lived thru this with the British. Think about it? If the British out lawed guns to the colonists. We would still be living under British government! That’s why the founding fathers made the 2 amendment. So, the American people could protect themselves from the Tierney of the government. If you don’t think this could happen just stop and look around the world, where countries that do not allow their citizens to have guns. The citizens have no way to protect themselves from government and we see them on TV throwing rocks at tank and soldiers with
The ARMED US citizenry is the ONLY thing keeping the UN, the Deep State and NWO dorks from accomplishing their agenda.
We must remain well armed to defend against a corrupt government.
10 ring.
Why trust someone who wants to disarm law abiding citizens?
NEVER…NEVER..
If these politicians actually believed their own propangda. They would check for duplicate laws, unfunded laws, unenforced laws, and laws which exempted people from obeying them. They would repeal all laws in the above categories and any bills introduced would have to disclose the amount and source of enforcement funds, the agency responsible for enforcement and assure there would be no exemptions from enforcement!
Who would believe a “Rasmussen” survey
Don’t trust a “pro-gun” Democrat. They’re ALL lying sacks.
Any machinists with a metal lathe can make a so-called bump stock in a matter of minutes. All the left wants to do is relieve us of our only defense against these idiots and it’s not gonna happen as long as we defend our second amendment rights. Join the NRA and stand up for the citizens of the United states of America.
The most important paragraph in this article is:
As a sacrifice on the gun control altar, a ban on bump stocks isn’t the
worst idea we’ve ever heard. The problem, of course, is that this won’t
quell the left’s appetite for gun control. If Republicans are going into
this under the delusion that “this’ll shut them up for a while,” they
couldn’t be more wrong. If anything, this will only empower anti-gun
Democrats to go after bigger and more blatantly unconstitutional laws,
just as they used the mere chance at DACA legislation to start calling
for widespread, 11 million+ amnesty for illegal immigrants.
Nothing short of removing all guns from law abiding and legal citizens, will satisfy the lefts’ agenda of gun control! They do not want the “common people” able to defend themselves, but you can bet your bottom dollar they will not take the guns out of the hands of their body guards, nor will they ever be able to take the guns away from there most protected class; the criminal. These globalists want the public disarmed so they can control and dictate over them!
Would go for gun control IF guns were actually loading , aiming and firing without a human doing the loading aiming firing of said gun . Never seen , heard , read about any gun of any type commit any type of violence without a human controlling said gun . If a insane human decides to kill other humans choice of weapon is decided by the insane human . The choice of weapon is anything that can kill another human and the list of weapons is a big list . None of the items chosen to be said weapon by the insane human can kill without insane human .
A huge bit of irony in this is that the Eric Holder lead Obama (in)Justice Department approved bump stocks when they first came out. His BATFE said that they did not violate any regulations or laws. Neither Holder nor Obama made any effort to regulate them or restrict their manufacture and sale. I suppose that they thought they would be able to ban all semi automatic firearms and the stocks would become useless to anyone except criminals, the Democrats core constituency.
Hey James, I call them DEMOCRATS! Look how Schumer, Pelosi, and Waters act over everything President Trump does. I didn’t act like that without serious drugs back in the day, but they act like that all the time against President Trump. They let Obama destroy America and our values, but attack President Trump while he rebuilds America. They will be removed from office one way or another!
So, Where is the survey? No, don’t trust anti-gunners, would NEVER vote for one! Maybe, if they tricked me by lying and just saying there were pro gun, and God knows that has happened before!
There are a few things self described conservatives can not avoid doing: picking their noses; farting in public; copulating with close relatives; scratching their private parts and putting their fingers into their mouths; telling lies about Hillary; and worshiping lard ass Trump. If anyone discovers a cure to any of these, please share.
They are found in the democratic party that booed God out of their 2012 & 2016 conventions and the DNC platform.
. There is no cure for for demonic (anti-God) individuals except that they become aware of their eternal destination and seek the truth.
Somewhat crude, but typical of progressive democrats!
In much the same way as “Profanity is the last resort of the verbally incompetent.”- “Insulting name-calling is the first resort of the leftist incompetents.” Then they devolve into violence.
Perfect analysis and attribution!
Thanks, DonCentTX!! But the phrasing seems a bit unwieldy. Working on something as succinct and pithy as the “profanity” statement- which I probably learned from Robert Heinlein’s sf scrivenings.
Your “profanity” statement was perfect and
absolutely accurate. I always suspect
the intelligence and educational level of those who resort to name-calling,
profanity and vulgarity. Always most
telling!
Considering current public “education”, I expect very little from anyone not home-schooled from about the late 70’s on. Although, these past two generations show a truly egregious loss of aptitude.
Always the fallback position for these dweebs when they have LOST the argument.
Obviously one of Harvey’s spawn from that “anyone can be your mom or dad” enclave in Kalifornication! Talk about inbreeding….everyone out there are scared white to run a DNA test prior to marrying someone – discovering you are marrying or having some affair with your cousin, sister, brother, father (those that know they have one anyway), or even your mother!
The problems with gun control legislation is not just a demands issue to take control of citizens with guns rights; it is an issue pertinent to all Americans just as with every constitutional right!
The problem is not guns, it is a problem with the people who have access to the guns and their mental capacity and a lack of respect for others. That lack of respect for others was continually driven with a White House agenda over the past eight years; an agenda that turned the nations respect for our criminal justice system and our laws upside down.
Without guns in the hands of citizens our nation would have fallen hundreds of years ago. Without guns in the hands of honest citizens today, our streets would be far greater threats to honest Americans.
The fear and threat based on firearms, with exception of places like Chicago (which politicians seem to maintain a hands off the continual and daily shootings and use of guns in killing and street persuasion) is far more a career political ploy than an issue based on real facts. It often seems those opposed to guns in the hands of citizens is based more on the controlling effects the government might have if guns were taken away from the citizens.
Consider how little safety this nation might have enjoyed in the past eight years if the Democrats had been able to disarm the citizens; we see the terror, killings and violence on our streets, in our schools and businesses everyday as a result of the loss of respect for government and our criminal justice system, a loss of respect for people and a constant prodding from the media to stir up hate and discontent.
The nation has lost it’s social respect and safety due to radical elected politicians constantly antagonizing, threatening and selling fear through the media to gain acceptance of their own agendas. In eight years the Obama Administration choose to ignore many of our federal laws, interfered with states obligations to protect their states and citizens rights, continually accused law enforcement for causing the crime and dissention on our streets, and basically destroyed the nations respect for government, for our justice system and the safety of our neighbors.
The easy approach though is for politicians to join in with the popular snivel campaign and spread the fear that everyone with a gun is a threat to society. The Hillary Clintons, Chuck Schumer’s, Pelosi’ and politicians from both parties who are more active in creating fear in the minds of people than in acting like intelligent and capable elected officials that built, guided and kept our society the proud nation we once were. Politicians today do not use the skills of those of the past to manage the nations business. They instead quickly turn to the media to complain, blame, criticize and demean everyone else. They never take responsibility for their own failures and mistakes, never seem to have logical or serious solutions but rather radical suggestions basing their solutions on fear mongering and manipulated propaganda.
Might have reduced that a bit by simply saying, politicians of all stripes are money controlled and poll driven! Where does anyone think our “Gun Rights,” or much of anything would be today without those 5 million in the NRA?
The social “contracts” are being deliberately distorted and broken. After Prez. Trump– what will emerge? Leftist “Rust Don’t Rest” is driving the union to dissolution. At that point it may be desireable and sensible. At least the conservative area will survive.
I don’t trust any politicians, especially if they are lawyer politicians!
Dianne Feinstein, Democrat senator from Ca. [where else?] already has some sort of legislation pending that bans bump stocks, and included,of course, it bans just about every other accessory you can buy for an A/R. Typical liberal Democrat.
How long has the “gun war” been running, well over 22+ years and counting: Queen of the ‘gun grabbers’ Feinstein said on CBS-TV’s 60 Minutes, February 5, 1995, “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ’em all in, I would have done it.”
And, while she admitted that no law would have stopped the shooter(s) she still has not backed away from her desire to bring about total prohibition and confiscation (…Mr.and Mrs. America, turn them all in”…) but couldn’t get the votes. The bill she introduced is a nightmare and is intended to destroy our gun rights bit by bit.
Of course I don’t. They are either stupid or trying to con me. They may not know it but there is a law against murder. So if you are willing to not obey this law what makes these IDIOTS think in their infinite stupidity they can write any law that will make these creeps obey theirs.
Back in the early 60’s a Chicago detective named Frank Schira wrote a piece that appeared in GUNS magazine and this is well worth repeating:
:What penalty for possession of a gun will deter a criminal willing to commit murder for which the penalty is death? Think, America! Before they bury us! ( this was during the Cold War).
Their one most important of all goal is “gun confiscation”.
Just exactly, given the implications of “diversity,” crime, terrorism (foreign and domestic), mental illness, political activism and partisan-political animosity, do democrats propose to “ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare AND to secure the blessings of life and liberty for ourselves and our posterity,” with the disastrous policy positions they have had for decades? They have obviated and changed laws to accommodate those who vote for them, using collective responsibility to impose a sense of guilt or shame for not being a part of the majority supporting minority diversity.
President Trump is trying to make America great again BUT congress is doing everything in their power to stop him.
Exactly. The “globalists” are pushing, because they see PRESIDENT TRUMP curbing their corrupt COMMUNIST “ambitions” of “one world government, “new world order”, by DRAINING THE “critters” from DC SWAMP.
How can they let president Trump, an outsider, win? He wins, and proves them to be the blood sucking, do nothing, leeches they are!
Actually by banning shredded cheese in grocery stores he’s also making America grate again.
Of course. A successful Trump presidency will make it very clear that one does not have to be part of the political establishment or a lawyer to be president. Their house of cards will really start crumbling.
Progressive democrats obviously do not wish the rest of us to have the ability to defend ourselves. Perfect example is Circle K Corporation who fired the young lady clerk in Albuquerque who defended herself from an armed robber in her store.
Anti-gun politicians focus on guns as a quick button pushing way to focus attention on guns and away from themselves. They use any crisis to promote more anti-gun laws. Even when a mass slaying was perpetrated by a man driving his car in the sidewalk. The politician’s HUE & CRY was for more gun control! The Sandy Hook shooter broke 42 laws on the day of the shooting. What is needed is to research all federal gun laws, looking for duplicate gun laws, unfunded, and unenforced gun laws, and exceptions to gun laws(ie the politicians and their cronies exempted from these laws). All duplicate laws, unfunded laws and unenforced laws need to be repealed! Any replacement bills need to meet the following criteria, 1) all bills need to specify the source and amount of enforcement funding. 2) Designate the agency responsible for enforcing the new law. 3) Any law whose funding is cut “Due to Fiscal Restraints” needs to be repealed immediately.
To all you democrats that are gun owners, you better worry about your Second Amendment Rights because your party has been chipping away at the Second Amendment for years now it has come about that they want to confiscate our guns. You must realize that the Second Amendment protects us from everything that is evil in this world of ours today. Just think about that, it protects us from everything even our own government. If we ever lose our Second Amendment rights we will be reduced to a flock of sheep and our government will rule us as such. My suggestion to all democratic gun owners vote for your candidate that that will support our Second Amendment rights. I’m a republican and I believe we should unite to protect our Second Amendment rights. I consider all law abiding citizen gun owners as my brother’s and sister’s.
I rather believe that it is ALL about protecting our “God Given Unalienable Rights!” That dastardly 2nd Amendment is appreciated, however, for myself and mine, NOT required. I refuse to obey any “man-made law” that would deny me my “God Given Right” to self-defense of myself or mine, by ANY appropriate means, ANYWHERE. When they come for my “arsenal” they better bring gloves – for when they pry the last empty one from my cold dead hand, and attempt to pick any of the others up, they all will be empty and too hot to handle!
LOL!! You are indeed a Firewagon after my own heart. MAGA
with the way many crimes, especially violent ones,are always news headlines, they tell you the place and names,
they get so much publicity that almost anyone would want to carry protection or stay home! and the criminals are happy to be famous.
Be very wary of EVERYBODY who thinks regulating our freedoms is in the best interest of the citizenry. I believe that the drafters of the Constitution would want citizens to have the strongest and most powerful arms available to protect us against the tyranny of government “officials.”
… no sh^t!
Here we go again, sorry Charlie but I’m not buying in to the latest Dark State’s false flag! As usual, when the said perpetrator is a Caucasian male his race and history from the time he was in diapers is immediately made available for the sheeple of “TRANFORMED & TRANS-GENDERED AMERIKA” – how convenient! Case in point: remember how they covered the white shooter of a black church as opposed to the coverage of the black/Muslim shooter of the white church, it was diametrically the opposite; the former was incessant, the latter was non-existent!
As I was listening to M. Savage yesterday, a caller, a neighbor of the “accused” perpetrator – there were no eye witnesses, we were told that a dead body was found – had said that he frequently talked to this man and he believed that the accused was incapable of committing such an evil act. I also find it puzzling as for the motive of this man but I have no problem thinking that he would be the perfect patsy such as L. H. Oswald was!
I also find it ever so convenient that there was a scheduled vote on gun-control in “Moscow West” at the time of this horrific tragedy but had to be rescheduled; also, Nevada has gun-control pending! You have to be awed by the cleverness and deviousness of these Godless, Satan worshipping, power-mad NWO-elitist ghouls timing of their false flags. They play the sheeple like a fine Strada!
It is no coincidence either of the crowd and event that was chosen for their latest gun-control false flag. You see, what better crowd could have been selected than a crowd of patriotic, gun loving and peaceful people than a crowd at a Country and Western concert. It is exactly these people that are to be terrorized into believing that the last nail in the coffin of TTGA , gun control, is needed for them to acquire this!
Let “US” be perfectly clear, the weapon/weapons used in this hellish killing theater were not LEGAL weapons as the sycophant, sissified, pseudo-intellectual, treacherous Dark State media ghouls are trying to establish! Former military and law enforcement callers into the M. Savage radio talk show, after have listened to the audio tapes of the shooting, all had agreed that it was not an AR 15, legal magazine but most likely a Russian AK 47 round magazine ( 50- 100 rounds ) or a machine gun, belt fed!
Kiss your asses goodbye and be ready to cry, we are about to be fried so get ready to die! I suggest that everyone get their souls in order because HELL on EARTH is here so be prepared to have nothing to fear – praise the Lord and hallelujah!
I believe the better phrase is “praise the Lord and pass the bullets!”
Old WWI marching morale song– “Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition”.
Exactly so! May need again for WWIII.
ANYONE thinking the “gun control” crowd is interested in anything short of some Nirvana total “gun elimination” are deluded beyond recovery! That they are concerned about “gun violence” and/or the issue of “blacks killing blacks,” is also delusional. As far too many have observed, with the siren call of “what about Chicago,” that ONE city has murdered over 550 people thus far THIS year alone – nearly 10 fold the number the latest whack killed out of his “shooting gallery” windows. Where are the memorials, flowers in the streets, being observed for them? Rather, consider this: “It’s very frustrating to know that it’s like 7 percent of the population causes 80 percent of the violent crime…The gangs here are traditional gangs that are generational, if you will. The grandfather was a gang member, the father’s a gang member, and the kid right now is going to be a gang member.
“Mayor Rahm Emanuel disbanded the Chicago Police Department’s anti-gang unit in 2012.” Wikipedia Ladies and Gents, boys and girls, radicals and moderates, sheep and wolves, I suggest to you all that the constant call for “gun control” is some hideous escape from reality. The reality is that America has all but LOST the culture war. We have allowed the opening of the flood gates for the destruction of America from within. Proof is in the cultural change over just the past fifty-odd years: In 1960, barely 2 percent of all American children, from all racial and ethnic backgrounds, lived with a never married parent. By 2008, 41 percent of black children, 18 percent of Hispanic children, and 7 percent of white children lived in a home with an unmarried parent.
Over this same period of time, from 1960 to 2008, the percentage of white adults that are married dropped from 74 percent to 56 percent, Hispanic adults from 72 percent to 50 percent, and black adults from 61 percent to 32 percent. Since that “legislating from the bench” SCOTUS decree in ’73, Americans have killed the equivalent of entire populations of several ‘countries’ through abortion – 55 million and counting. Finally, evidence of NOT some “progressive/evolution” to a better society, it is evidence of America’s “moral decline:” Positive responses are at record highs for the moral acceptability of birth control (91 percent), divorce (73 percent), sex between an unmarried man and woman (69 percent), homosexual relations (63 percent), out-of-wedlock birth (62 percent), abortion (43 percent), pornography (36 percent). I would finally leap from my wobbly soapbox by saying that “Gun Control” is such a red herring that it is tantamount to attempting to stop stage 4 cancer with a bandaid!
Well stated, Firewagon. Hope you have a country retreat prepared. The MAGA battle is heating up.
The America I grew up in is all but gone, I’m old enough to need no escape route. My concern is for my children and theirs, if America goes, where do they, or anyone, go? Hope springs eternal, and the Good Ship America, under new leadership, may yet turn about; however, as the Bible says, “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, (a.k.a. EVIL – my add) as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.” 1 Peter 5:8
As to what will be their (our children’s) lot- the tree of liberty may need to be refreshed. “Live and let live” doesn’t appear to be in the leftist lexicon. They may find themselves “winning stupid prizes” sooner rather then later. I, too, have been here awhile and was hoping for a better future outcome.
Amen brother!
Most Americans I talked to, and they are voters, want gun control. So, what fake survey did you invent.
You must live in a total Democrat controlled area or a University area , those are the nuts that want to control you like a robot .
Wrong again
Then you must be a cave dweller .
Trolls no longer live under bridges, but in basements.
Basement dwellers are college people no one will hire do to background and useless degrees . Under bridge dwellers hang out in libraries during the day and use those computers.
Care to explain? “Retired” sounds most plausible!!!
More than 50% of the voters in America voted Democrat..
Not true as I believe it was around 30% that stayed home and did NOT Vote .
I am referring to the number of people who voted. Those who did not vote cannot be considered.
I know what you was getting at ,it was for the benefit of the fake Media followers .
If you count the dead ones and the ones who voted 6 times.
No mystery there. Does the term “birds of a feather” mean anything to you? Even so, it does not matter if “most” people want gun control. The Bill of Rights is not subject to the opinions of a know-nothing “majority”. The protection of potentially unpopular concepts, things, speech, words, etc. was the whole idea behind the Bill of Rights. Bottom Line: What you and the people you talk to want is irrelevant.
It’s not guns but people’s hearts that need fixing. Put the love of Jesus Christ back into the home and the schools. We should never had God removed from education. The first act of the first congress was to print bibles for children to learn to read from.
Crime, in this country has been in a steady decline for two decades, coinciding with a massive increase in gun ownership by the American public.
Last year there was an uptick of more than 3%. This coincides with the “Ferguson effect”, and the rise of internal terrorist groups like BLM and Antifa.
It’s one thing to be ignorant about the effect of gun ownership; it’s another to put it on full display to the world.
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Here we go again, sorry Charlie but I’m not buying in to the latest Dark State’s false flag! As usual, when the said perpetrator is a Caucasian male his race and history from the time he was in diapers is immediately made available for the sheeple of “TRANFORMED & TRANS-GENDERED AMERIKA” – how convenient! Case in point: remember how they covered the white shooter of a black church as opposed to the coverage of the black/Muslim shooter of the white church, it was diametrically the opposite; the former was incessant, the latter was non-existent!
As I was listening to M. Savage yesterday, a caller, a neighbor of the “accused” perpetrator – there were no eye witnesses, we were told that a dead body was found – had said that he frequently talked to this man and he believed that the accused was incapable of committing such an evil act. I also find it puzzling as for the motive of this man but I have no problem thinking that he would be the perfect patsy such as L. H. Oswald was!
I also find it ever so convenient that there was a scheduled vote on gun-control in “Moscow West” at the time of this horrific tragedy but had to be rescheduled; also, Nevada has gun-control pending! You have to be awed by the cleverness and deviousness of these Godless, Satan worshipping, power-mad NWO-elitist ghouls timing of their false flags. They play the sheeple like a fine Strada!
It is no coincidence either of the crowd and event that was chosen for their latest gun-control false flag. You see, what better crowd could have been selected than a crowd of patriotic, gun loving and peaceful people than a crowd at a Country and Western concert. It is exactly these people that are to be terrorized into believing that the last nail in the coffin of TTGA , gun control, is needed for them to acquire this!
Let “US” be perfectly clear, the weapon/weapons used in this hellish killing theater were not LEGAL weapons as the sycophant, sissified, pseudo-intellectual, treacherous Dark State media ghouls are trying to establish! Former military and law enforcement callers into the M. Savage radio talk show, after have listened to the audio tapes of the shooting, all had agreed that it was not an AR 15, legal magazine but most likely a Russian AK 47 round magazine ( 50- 100 rounds ) or a machine gun, belt fed!
Kiss your asses goodbye and be ready to cry, we are about to be fried so get ready to die! I suggest that everyone get their souls in order because HELL on EARTH is here so be prepared to have nothing to fear – praise the Lord and hallelujah!
I used to think they wanted our guns so we would have nothing to fight back with, I WAS RIGHT.
This is the hypocrisy of the left, and some republicans, they always use a tragedy to put forth their agenda. The democrats, the lying media, and the rest of the dumb shits doesn’t realize that no law would have prevented this tragedy. Between the states and the federal government we have over 20,000 gun laws on the books and not one of them or any new laws would have prevented this evil tragedy. The shooter used a machine gun and it is illegal to own one, so where did the shooter acquire it. This is what the stupid democrats have to look into. How to stop illegal gun sales, this is what they need to focus on not some stupid law that will only affect law abiding citizens. We all know the democrats want total confiscation but they will never admit it. The democrats want complete control of it citizen because they are scared of us and that is why they keep chipping away at us with all their stupid gun laws that will never stop crimes. They always use Australia’s
Gun ban of 1996 saying that their gun confiscation worked but that is another one of their lies. I have a letter from a senator in Australia that says America don’t let your government take your guns. He went on to say since their gun ban crime went up 60% because the criminals still had their guns and they know now that the Australian people can no longer protect themselves, their property or love ones. So having control of congress it is the hope of the majority of Americans that you reject any new gun laws, I believe that congress should pass a bill that would stop all attacks on the Second Amendment by anyone.
The NRA is made up of law abiding citizens to protect our second Amendment rights. There has never been a NRA member that ever committed a crime with a gun.
I don’t trust any politicians! I never did and I never will. It is too difficult to “unmask” their hidden agendas. I believe many initially go to Washington with the greatest of ambitions for doing what is best for the American people but as soon as they start to drink that DC Kool Aid they quickly learn and master the art of talking out of both sides of their mouths. They learn about how much money they can accumulate trading on information the rest of us only hear about after the fact and they quickly learn that if they don’t stick to the party line there will be no second term for them. They quickly learn to sell their souls for campaign contributions necessary to fool the Booboisie into voting them in again and again and again. And for them, it works. For the rest of us, not so much.
Politics comes out of the barrel of a gun no matter what side you’re on and the communist politicians know that quite well… They only want their side to have the wepons…
We’ve been lied to so often it’s difficult to ever believe any politician–especially if he or she is also a lawyer–they are at best thieving word twisters.
I hope that distrust grows, we cannot give up our guns, it will be our destruction! We’ll be totally, vulnerable! We cannot give in! Look, when a billionaire can order a mass murder of innocent men, women, and children, and have it covered up, and make good law men toss their integrity out the window, just to gain support for gun confiscation, we need our guns!
You all do understand, that “We The People” can go to D.C. and throw them out! The way that our political system favors their pockets, more than the people, it’s time for action! We have the right to keep,and bear, arms but we didn’t get a guarantee that we couldn’t lose that right! Hell, at some point, we are going to have to defend that right, or lose it! We all know that if anything happens to President Trump, we have to erupt, and never stop until we, are all that’s left! We, didn’t ask for half, of the citizens, of America to turn on us! That’s exactly what has happened though! They mean business, and by God, we better find the courage to not only stand up, but win!
We cannot allow another liberal in the “People’s House!” If we let that happen, after what obama has pulled, we will be destroyed! If Hillary had been elected, they would have come to our homes by now, and taken our guns! Every state has a national guard, police, and if necessary, our military! If we let a liberal get elected, our Country is over, they will begin a “One World Government” and we, will work to keep the self described, global elitists to live real damn good, while we labor! The only reason it hasn’t begun is because “There will be an American, with a gun, behind every, blade of grass!”
same old democrats, different thing. piss on all democrats.
You can trust anti-gun politicians to use the vilest and most deceitful tactics possible undermine not only gun-owner’s rights but the rights all Americans who are loyal to our nation and its Constitution. These politicians have no moral compass, ethos or character.
Try and take my guns !!
AMEN JAMES I COULDN’T HAVE SAID IT BETTER!!!!
The bleeding hearts still think that guns kill people, like it has a mind, legs and hands.
Need I say more?
It is clear that the leadership of the House and the leadership of the Senate in both parties are anti-God, anti-Constitution seditionists. They do not know what they are doing, and they will destroy this once great nation! The Lord raised up Donald Trump in order to give this nation one more chance. Unfortunately, the schism within the nation is growing wider and there is no attempt to come together or to work together. So be it! Every great nation or empire has gone down in the past because people walked away from God. This is happening here, and the cost will be very high! When America implodes, as it soon will, these same fools will blame everyone but themselves! Utterly sad, but it has all been prophesied by the God these fools deny! He will remove His own people and then will bring judgment. Those remaining will be most unhappy!
Why trust the Demoncrats.
Meaningless bullshit, there is already a law that says you can’t shoot people, but he shot them anyway and bump stocks are so easy to make it could be done in elementary school. No law can stop a criminal, they don’t obey laws.
I don’t trust ANYTHING the liberal demos have to say. Sorry
Rifle deaths 2016 378. People killed by knives 1064 same period. You can’t make what criminals do with guns anymore illegal than it already is, any form of gun control is designed to CRIMINALIZE what good people do with guns. Therefore there logic is, if you own a gun. You are a criminal.
There is no reason to allow this to get into the congressional swamp. It can be handled by the ATF and give those bureaucrats something to do besides smuggling weapons to drug lords.
The 2 parties in 1 have become more communist than ever. We will NEVER allow our 1st and 2nd Amendments to be removed/repealed, etc. However, we do want to remove the 14th and 17th asap. When you stop and accept the 2 parties in 1 have been bought and paid for by outsiders and have become millionaires on only something like $200K (not worth of earning that much money), then you wake up and start thinking HOW? We must drain the Congress Swamp NOW and not wait until 2018 because we elected/hired them and so now it is time to FIRE THEM. They stopped representing us decades ago and we were foolish and allowed it. So wake up, smell the coffee and do something for America or wind up as slaves to communism via globalism! Trump is working hard and long, but we need to do our part as well!
Yes, but I don’t trust a politician with my security, health care, tax money, etc as well as my constitutional rights. However, it doesn’t matter, they can NOT or ever have my weapon. EVER!
Molon labe, and MAGA!
Remember the Minutemen, keep your rifles handy and your powder dry and wait for the call.
Just like Obama gave phones to the poor, Trump should give rifles and ammo to all the poor. 600 rounds per week to start, just for practice. And maybe some Glocks. After all the
2nd amendment is for all citizens. That way we will truly be a militia. I don’t get that “well regulated” part of the 2nd.
As usual, the Left is touting something that is NOT THE ISSUE!!. What do you ban after guns? Poison in the water supply, cars and trucks, knives and swords? Is it not so bad to kill just one person with a baseball bat? Two people with a butcher knife? 10 people with a delivery truck? Spend some of this money and time figuring out why people want to kill other people. And then figure out why some people just want to control others.
The gun issue is a bellwether issue that tells you if your representative views you as a constituent to be represented or a subject to be ruled. If your politician is on the wrong side of the gun issue, you will find you will disagree with him on a multitude of other issues as well. I will never ever vote for any politician who opposes my gun rights.
“since an accessory like this cannot really fall under the protection of the Second Amendment,”
Why not?
What is there about this that falls outside the “Shall not be infringed” part of the 2nd.
Guns don’t kill people, radical liberal irrational people kill people.
A rifle or handgun does not kill people. It takes a human to pull the trigger, or to rig the weapon to go off at a specific time. These people who want to eliminate part of our Bill of Rights are all sorry, low down, sneaks and liars, and they are socialists (aka communists).