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House Conservatives: New Healthcare Bill Looks Good
Posted On 26 Apr 2017
A new healthcare bill could be in the waiting.
After Republicans failed to come to an agreement on the American Health Care Act last month, leaders in the House Freedom Caucus are signaling that they have come around due to changes made in the original bill. Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan, and Raul Labrador, all prominent members of the House conservative group, are said to be pleased with the new plan.
The House leadership has not been pushing for a new healthcare vote, instead focusing on a spending bill that will keep the federal government open past the Friday deadline. But House Speaker Paul Ryan did say, through a spokesperson, that he was not ruling out a vote in the coming days.
“I think we can turn things around quickly if we were to reach an agreement,” said spokeswoman AshLee Strong. “We will see something as soon as we can, but we’re not there right now.”
The wider Congress has not yet seen the text of the new bill, so we could once again see conservatives and moderates get stuck on the particulars of the legislation.
But it can’t be ignored that a lot of the same House Republicans who opposed the original bill have been saying great things about the new version.
Rep. David Brat said, “A lot of people like it,” when asked about the new bill on Tuesday evening.
According to those on the inside, the changes to the new bill include a clause that would allow states to opt out of the insurance regulations mandated by Obamacare. With a federal waiver, insurance companies could also be allowed to escape federal requirements that force them to cover certain health problems. And while the bill will still require insurance companies to offer coverage to those with preexisting conditions, they will be allowed to charge those patients higher premiums.
It sounds like there is still a lot in the new bill for conservatives to dislike; it does, after all, keep the federal government in charge of insurance regulations in a way it never was before Obamacare. But by giving states more flexibility and insurance companies special provisions, it does seem like a step in the right direction. And with Democrats in the Senate poised to oppose any attempt at repealing and replacing Obama’s signature legislation, it could be the best we’re going to get right now.
Now the question is whether Ryan and the so-called “Tuesday Group” – made up of House moderates – can even pass this new and improved bill. And if they do, can it get through the Senate and onto the president’s desk?
Ya, Baby!! RINOcare destroyed by the House Freedom Caucus.
Right, and they also destroyed President Trumps first 100 days in office! The economy for the first quarter of Trumps Presidency grew at UNDER 1% (0.7%)! Companys that expressed a desire to expand and consequently hire more people after Trump won the White House, have now, as a direct result of the adolescently petulant actions of the Freedom Caucus, put those plans on hold!
This Congress has passed exactly ‘0’ pieces of substantive legislation to date! That puts them on track to be the LEAST productive Congress in history!
…tissue?
Even you, after a short period of time in your Progressive Utopia, which it seems we are certain now to become, will need some Comrade!
Repeal it, YES. Replace it, NO.
Get the feds out of the health care business!!
Obama’s legacy? He destroyed our economy with measures like the ACA and immigration amnesty. The “Affordable” Care Act has been nothing short of a disaster. My health insurance bill is up to $550/month. (Compare this to my $25/month auto insurance from Insurance Panda or my $10/month renters insurance… both private enterprise!) And he is anti-police, anti-white, anti-Christian.. you name it!
The ONLY thing the federal government should be doing in health care is smoothing the lines between states, so that when one needs health care out of state they can have it under the commerce clause.
Health care is neither a right nor an entitlement….
Amen. The paperwork alone due to government involvement will keep prices up, but that is only one of dozens of reasons. Fully repeal Obamacare and have a simple short bill that states health insurance must be sold across state lines, that insurance companies may not stake out territory like AT&T or the cable companies did. Prices skyrocketed from that. There should also be no taxes associated with any aspect of healthcare.
I wholeheartedly agree!!!
Agreed.
Worst is illegal aliens come illegally in millions demanding Obamacare, to free load, and to deliver their tens of thousand babies in US hospitals free,. UN and liberals demand President Trump to providing every one medical care. They claim that all human beings are entitled to free medical care..Illegals join the rioting on the streets to achieve it.
Quit the Panda trolling.
Employers should be forced to go back to offering health insurance. Some dropped the coverage option after O’bamacare started. And people need more reasonable policy costs. If should go back entirely to the states.
Employers should not half to furnish insurance. That’s like your employer saying you got to drive a red vehicle if you’re going to work for me. Insurance as part of your benefit nothing says the employer house to give you any benefits. Yes I work for a company that furnishes meA company vehicle and company insurance and Company retirement. It was March voice to go to work for them not the companies choice to mandate I do.
To bad they didn’t give you a spell and grammar checker or send you to school to learn grammar!!
That’s why am an old codger to and don’t give a shit
Talk to Siri about the spelling I am just telling her what to write
Too bad you didn’t learn any manners old codger. I’m likely older than either of you and that was one thing we learned at home!
Confucius say: “Opinions are like A$$HOLES, everybody has at least one”! Keep yours to yourself A……!
Competition for the best workers would lead to employer based healthcare once again. Capitalism will win out over Socialism or it’s brother Communism every time. There really is no “FREE LUNCH” no matter how a socialist like crazy Bernie or the nitwit democRAT-ICK politicians promise it.
Employers offering health care is an option just as how much they pay for services! Some may pay well enough that they feel the employee could purchase his own insurance. It is NOT a government issue and should not be, just as the minimum wage should not exist. If an employer wants an employee who doesn’t care about his furnishing health care, then it is his option, NOT THE GOVERNMENTs! Workers in general population generally want work and the paycheck that comes with it. The Government should have no say in the matter! It’s a contract between two non governmental personages! I raised nine children and worked both ways. We tried not to spend everything we made and save for trouble which often meant medical bills. Too many people today spend every penny they earn and then want someone else to pay for what they DIDN’T save for!
I’m not arguing that point. All I meant was when O’bamacare went into affect then some employers dropped that option and made employees that were getting insurance through employment to go to O’bama care. Some pay a higher insurance rate than they did when the employer covered them.
You are, of course, correct that this issue is and rightly should be a Tenth Amendment issue. That being said, WHEN, in your experience, has government involvement EVER created a condition of “reasonable cost”??
Time to get the government out of our lives. Allow people to shop out of state and pick the coverage that they want like they do with home and auto insurance.
I agree totally!!!!
I agree, if you keep the government out of it! The government’s role in health care is to see to it that the insurance company is solid and lawful with an insurance on itself. Let the people pick and pay for what they want and need! There’s no sense in forcing people to take insurance that they feel they don’t need or can afford! Somehow up to this date most Americans have been able to either pay for their own medical care or buy insurance just incase! Free men and women are not free if the government can dictate what THEY think you need!
It can’t look too good as it was just announced that they will not be voting on it again today. If the Republicans don’t stop behaving like weak little fools and get the wall built and Obamacare repealed, there will be hell to pay in the upcoming Congressional elections. It’s past time to get rid of Paul Ryan once and for all and stop acting like losers.
The Republicans better get their act together on health care if they don’t they are going to have to find real jobs after the next election.
We do need a NEW political party thaat’s for the people in more than just giving lip service. It’s not the republican party lacking spines and testicles nor the crooked democRAT_ICK party more concerned wiyh filling theor own pockets with money looted from the taxpayers with one of their many scams and schemes. Maybe the American party?
Agree about the Demorats but the Republicans need to get off their butts and do whats best for America.
Not likely to happen. The Freedom Caucus is either a group of Progressive insurgents, or complete morons! Either way it’s unlikely anything substantive will come from this Congress!
At this point we are heading to a one party system in America real fast.
These treacherous quislings have put us right back on the path we had thought we had escaped! The path to a one world government! When the 116th.Congress reverts to Progressive control again, it will remain that way for the foreseeable future!
Try though they might, as long as the Freedom Caucus remains, Congressional Leadership will NOT be able to stave off another shut down! One week or even three month CR’s will not prevent it, As a result the DOW will experience a correction reminiscent of 2008. The Electorate isn’t likely to return control to Republicans , when they were in control of the White House during TWO CONSECUTIVE economic collapses!
Unfortunately you are correct.
No Ted, the Freedom Caucus is just what it says it is. If we are burdened with big brother, we will never be free again. Once it is done you will be either a ward of the state or a subject of state, begging for first your medical care then life and jobs and even children! Big Brother will control you as it does in most socialist states.
Curious, clearly you understand the general results of suffering under a Progressively controlled society. That being the case, how can you justify the support of a group that has all but insured that is exactly the government we WILL have beginning in 2019? Even if you believe they created this condition unintentionally? Though that excuse seems highly unlikely!
There are absolutely NO decent democRAT-ICK politicians and have not been since the party was hijacked by advocates of socialism under the liberal progressive lable. The republican political party has a few politicians that appear to love their country, but that being said it is loaded with career establishment politicians willing to sell out their constituans in order to stay on the Gravy Train and fill their pockets just like the RATs. We NEED a new political party that loves America and places their country ahead of political party.
Great Post! Wish I could say your wrong but you nailed it.
Thanks, I wish I could find anything to admire in the liberal cultist religion. I have tried and failed and come to the conclusion that followers of the liberal-socialist-progressive (or whatever label the communists are cowering behind today) are all insane and bat-sh!t crazy!
Being a Veteran also everyday I try as I may to understand what has happen to our country and it always comes back to what it appears to be a liberal socialist mission for destroying America.
Hard for me to believe the liberal democRAT-ICK party is anything other than anti-American. The RAT politicians have to run down the country to please their electorate, but they sure love living the good life on the back of the taxpayers.
BYW, thanks for your service!
It’s likely Meadows and company will run on the Progressive ticket in 2018. God knows they’ve certainly paid their dues and earned the right! They’ve done more to damage the Trump Presidency than the Progressives EVER could have!
Believe me Southie, you won’t want government health care under any name! You will no longer be a free person, and become a ward of the state, subject to their whims and wishes! Repeal it and forget it! We are free, we pay our own way, that’s what freedom is!
If the RyanCare is any good then why has congress exempted themselves from it???
Then you can be assured the liberal in Congress will be screaming, pissing and moaning against it. Any bets?
If health care is to work Congress has to be part of it just like we are. As long as they have their own plan our plan will suck. Take that to the Bank………………..
True that! Sadly those foxes are in charge of the hen house!
This is a BS bill. The conservatives and the radical right folks need to understand that IF insurance companies are allowed to “opt-out” of the most costly aspects (i.e. cream-skim) of healthcare then people will die. People will go bankrupt. Insurance only works when there is a broad base of income support (both healthy and unhealthy people). This is basic insurance economics 101.
The 27 Senate RINO Traitors Who Voted FOR the Anti-American Obama-Ryan Omnibus Bill…………………………and Obamacare!
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Below are the 27 RINOs in the U.S. Senate who voted to blow the lid off the debt (Marco Rubio did NOT vote), funding illegal and unconstitutionally sanctuary cities, funding Obama’s illegal amnesty and Muslim Syrian invasion, funding Obamacare, funding Planned Butcherhood.
Presidential candidate Ted Cruz, a constitutional conservative, made the following statement after the bloated bill, a bill Rush Limbaugh called a “Democrat wet dream.”
“What we’ve seen in Congress today is profoundly disappointing. This spending bill does not honor the promises we made to the men and women who elected us. It funds Obamacare. It funds Planned Parenthood. It funds executive amnesty. It fails to protect our national security and stop Syrian refugees from coming to this country. It fails to do anything to stop the Iranian Nuclear Deal. And what does it do? It jacks up yet more low-skilled immigration, which will only drag down wages, kill American jobs, and hurt working men and women.
“This bill is the big-government agenda of Democrats that effectively forfeits our massive Republican victories of 2014 and cements Obama’s priorities for nearly the full remainder of his term. This is the Washington Cartel in action, and it’s precisely why the American people from coast-to-coast are so volcanically frustrated.”
Here are the 27 RINO traitors who voted for the 2009-page, $1.1 trillion Ryan-Obama Omnibus spending bill, furthering the elimination of the congressional power of the purse, effectively giving that power, willingly, to wannabe dictator Barack Obama.
There is an asterisk (*) next to those “RINO Republican” senators who are facing re-election in 2016.
Lamar Alexander (RINO-TN)
Kelly Ayotte* (RINO-NH)
John Barrasso (RINO-WY)
Roy Blunt* (RINO-MO)
Shelley Moore Capito (RINO-WV)
Dan Coats (RINO-IN) retiring in 2016
Thad Cochran (RINO-MS)
Susan Collins (RINO-ME)
Bob Corker (RINO-TN)
John Cornyn (RINO-TX
Cory Gardner (RINO-CO)
Lindsey Graham (RINO-SC)
Orrin Hatch (RINO-UT)
Dean Heller (RINO-NV)
John Hoeven* (RINO-ND)
Jim Inhofe (RINO-OK)
Johnny Isakson* (RINO-GA)
Ron Johnson* (RINO-WI)
Mark Kirk* (RINO-IL)
James Lankford* (RINO-OK)
Mitch McConnell (RINO-KY) *Senate Majority Leader*
Lisa Murkowski* (RINO-AK)
Jack Perdue (RINO-GA)
Pat Roberts (RINO-KS)
Mike Rounds (RINO-SD)
Thom Tillis (RINO-NC)
Roger Wicker (RINO-MS)
Trump never intended to repeal Obamacare in the first place.
Trump promoting this P0S gave the impression of progress without actually accomplishing anything except willingly betraying his supporters.
………..Yes, I said Trump willingly betrayed his supporters!
Repeal it completely like the CBO analysis said and Trumps supporters wanted! But Nooooo!!
Yes, 7 years was long enough to craft a replacement bill, but the e/GOP RINO’s never thought Trump would be elected!
…………Helll, most of the e/GOP RINO’s voted for Hillary anyway!
That’s why nothing worthwhile was ready.
60 Senate votes needed? …No! The Senate Nuclear option could have been used to repeal it completely, if they had the balls to do it. They did not and do not!
Tom Delay is correct. The House Freedom Caucus did the country a big favor!
The Senate has nothing to do with it, doofus! It never cleared the House! Article I, Section VII, Clause I
Face it the American health care business is not good, and an entirely new perspective has to be reverted to. For profit health care does not work. Too greedy, lawyers, and non health care people getting in there as middle men just to rob the American people of their money…They cheat citizens out of acceptable health care. For what phony jobs that contribute nothing to health care, but rather for high paid CEOs, stock holders in health care companies, and bribing Congress and Senate to play a worthless role. It is where Capitalism went totally off the tracks.
Cut the racketeers out of the system. Let Capitalism truly replace profiteers. Use the Tax Code to Repeal and Replace crooked Congressmen, and Senators who have been duped by crooked-legal criminals.
Use a two tier Tax Code. All who earn less than $100,000 pay a 10% tax on net income and a 4% tax on, and into a federal health care fund.
The second Tax bracket is for all individuals, companies and Corporations that earn more than $100,000. They pay 20% into the federal coffers and a 4% health care tax into the national health care system. Then a computer program run by IRS and Social Security folks directly pay Hospitals and Clinics for treating people. One system Veterans, Indians, welfare folks, congress, everyone under one system. PERIOD! Don’t like it drop out of society and migrate to another country.
The only replacement I want us to accept is the one the Entire Congress will also live under. We should have no laws passed that do not apply to the Congress!
Exactly!!
The Republican talk about health insurance. The Democrats talk about healthcare. Repeal is not an option. Replace is not an option. Cost is driven by rates charged by providers and utlization (i.e. demand). Heath insurance companies are about slicing and dicing the risk pools, not about healthcare at all.
Get rid of it –get a plan that benefits the people not the corporations and damn insurance companies–they are greedy and get the gov out of it
Accepting, as I do, that corporations and insurance companies are greedy, and fully agreeing that government should, largely, be kept out of our personal lives, by what other mechanism do you propose to “get plans that benefit the people”?
One suggestion I feel essential to that goal is deal effectively with the habit, of many, if not most, insurance companies, of denying benefits, for major medical problems due to undisclosed conditions prior to the purchase of the policy. That will, of course require, limited government involvement, at the state level, NOT the federal level.
Simplistically stated: Once an insurance company accepts a premium payment, after a reasonable ‘grace period’, the policy IS in full effect and legally liable for any and all treatment stated as “covered” in said policy, PERIOD!
Sounds good –need to get your suggestion off to the lame congress
I’m with Jack! The only thing this so called Health Bill will do is to create a new bureaucracy, and we KNOW what happens has happened! Social Security is paid willy nilly and the funds are spent for congressional concession for re-election help! We see the mess with the VA! That will happen and worse! Congress persons are completely unable to leave a dollar unspent! Repeal Obama Care! Do Not Replace With Trump Care, Ryan Care or any other care. Free people are not free when they have to depend on the government. They then lose their citizenship and become wards of the state, or subjects of the government!
We need a bill that does not allow our elected officials to have a different health care than the public that sent them to represent us! As long as they have a different health care plan then our plan is not what it should be or they would not want to have a different plan!
No matter which way you cut it, IT IS NOTHING BUT SOCIALIZED MEDICINE WHICH HAS NEVER WORKED, been tried in England for years with 6 month waits for emergency surgery. ON TOP of that, it is TOTALLY Unconstitutional by Article I, Section 8.
But as you know we are no longer Constitutional, at Least Congress is NOT Constitutional.
Obamacare is and always was a disaster, it needs to be gone. The few million who can’t get healthcare can be accommodated for much less than what Obamacare has been costing and destroying the rest of healthcare. The “plan” that congress has been writing has an “exemption clause” for them, they don’t have to get “the plan”. The politicians did this with Obamacare at the cost of $18,000 per person, this was for “all” staffers and “All” those working for these lovely politicians we have in Washington DC, Were talking about thousands of people. What ever these clowns pass it should be mandatory for them to carry the same healthcare they force on the American people.
If it dose not compleatly repeal Obamacare it dose not look good. A Apple Pie may look good but if salt was used instead sugar it will not taste good.
If Obamacare is not repealed by the roots the GOP will NOT keep the Senate in 2018 and will lose House and White House in 2020.
And with Democrats in the Senate poised to oppose any attempt at repealing and replacing Obama’s signature legislation, it could be the best we’re going to get right now.
the dimocrats don’t control the senate. repeal obummer care and no replacement. Make the GOP go on record opposing the repeal, maybe we can get rid of them in the next couple of election cycles.
The new health bill should say. This bill repeals all aspects of the AFA, including all regulations, all taxes and all rules made subsequent to passage of AFA. Any mention of replacement shows the republicans are nothing more than the liars that we knew them to be. McConnell and all his toadys like Cornyn from Texas should be sent home.
Is Congress going to be forced to use the new one? If not, vote no
“…it does, after all, keep the federal government in charge of insurance regulations in a way it never was before Obamacare.”
And therein lies the problem. As long as that remains true, socialized medicine is just a progressive electorial win away.
“…it could be the best we’re going to get right now.”
Unfortunately, that may be true; which means the above still applies and we are doomed to eventually have socialized medicine. And, with socialized medicine, the descent of the United States into the dark pit of socialism is assured.
Paul Ryan’s pants have a lot of empty space where his penis used to be.
This isnt all that complicated. Step #1: Repeal ObamaCare. Step #2: Drink a case of beer and spend the rest of the night pissing on your liberal neighbours front porch.
Lets make sure that all the Dem’s and Repub”s get a copy to review. More eyes the better, tho the Dem’s will probably thrash can theirs. we got the votes, then send it to the Senate. Lets get the ball rolling.
Why is FUNDING for Planned Parenthood still on the table? The American people do not want it! Paul Ryan is still supporting killing millions of babies, and still fights the border wall. Doesn’t make sense, need to replace him.
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